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If you are feeling spiritually stagnant and can no longer tolerate cookie-cutter explanations of the Bible or God, then you are in the right place. My name is Octavio and I know exactly how you feel. I know how it feels to value your Christian upbringing, to value God and the Bible, but to continually find a disconnect between the real world and what you were taught at church. I felt like this for years.
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Let me help you reframe and expand your understanding of the Bible, theology, and, ultimately, God. I have more than 20 years of experience as a church leader and a Masters in theology from Regent College.
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Why God Personally Gifted Slaves to the Israelites
There are indeed verses in the Bible that say that God personally gave out slaves to the Israelites as gifts for them to "enjoy" (we will go through them in this video). How do we reconcile this with the God portrayed in Jesus Christ?
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God LIES in THIS Bible Passage - Here Is Why
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This has gotta be one of the craziest and most confusing descriptions of God in the entire Bible. Why does God lie in order to get a King killed?1 Kings 22 is one of the most bizarre passage you will find in the entire Bible. Let's talk about it! _ 🥇: Wanna support my channel: ko-fi.com/octaviomoss - ▲ Instagram: bit.ly/Octavio_Moss ▲Facebook page: bit.ly/OctavioMoss ▲Spotify : spoti.fi/3qLesio -
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He's an antichrist. English Standard Version "Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son"
I didn't watch the video. Does he affirm the virgin birth and resurrection?
The historical significance of the bible has zero to do with North America. The whitewashing of the Bible is so bizarre. Jesus was not white y’all. Can you guys interview a Bible scholar
Brother, I’ve really enjoyed your content. I deconstructed/deconverted from Christianity about 2 years ago when I reached a point where I could not harmonize my religious beliefs with a hardy epistemology. I since have spent a lot of time examining critical scholarship of the Bible, and I’ve learned to appreciate this work in a whole new light. I just want to say that since losing my faith, you might have the single most sound theology that I’ve come across from a Christian. I love that you take critical evaluation of the scriptures seriously and avoid dogmatic positions that have no foundation. I salute you.
Of course its good to hear other points of view, but Dan is lying when he says he doesnt let his own beliefs affect his content. Everything he shares about Jesus and the bible is from a mormon perspective. And mormons are as christian as atheists so thats how good the information is. He may sound very intelligent and convincing talking about the 'data', but what it really is, is his own dogmatic mormon beliefs of the bible. He says Jesus isnt God, you know who disagrees with him? The apostles themselves. All of them were violently murdered because they wouldnt renounce their belief that Jesus is God. From the apostles, to the early church fathers, all the way thru church history to today, its been the core belief of Christianity that Jesus is God. Dan is doing satans work. Mormonism was started by an angel seen by John Smith, just like Muhammed with Islam. Those were demons not angels, its in Revelation. If your christian, dont watch Dan unless you understand your watching a person trying to disprove christianity for the benefit of mornonism.
Isn't that the original question, "Yea hath God said...?" Destroying faith in the word of God has always been the devil's goal. With "friends" like this, who needs enemies? In fact, if none of it's true that includes the Salvation part, as well. There's no middle ground: a 99.99999999999% truth is still a lie.
Demonic rubbish.
Echo chambers are such a funny thing. Here I am thinking that Dan is such a moron who never goes up against other Bible scholars and when he found a youtuber on par him in the form Mike Jones, Mike obliterated him so badly that Dan ended up blocking him.
I liked and subbed, my friend. I completely agree. Dogma is well-embedded in the Christian community. It was like a ton of bricks hit me when Dan started to uncover some of the inaccuracies within the Bible. The more I listened, the more it made sense. It made me question my own faith, and I began to ask what other things had been hidden. I have been challenged, and I keep on digging for the truth.
its mormon dogma that jesus isnt god. what your saying is that once you heard the dogmatic beliefs of a mormon you became less christian. listen to him all you want, but understand your listening to someone hostile to christianity.
As a moderator @ Mythvision, I've been introduced to many wonderful scholars of "Bibles" and ancient religions. Dan is one of my favorites. I don't always agree with him. But he really knows his stuff. -- As for "Conservative Christians", I think a more fair way to phrase that is "religious fundamentalists" or "both religious and political authoritarians". Authoritarianism, in all its forms, is naturally at-odds with rational discourse, honesty, and personal autonomy. Today, in America, the distinction between authoritarianism and "conservativism" have been lost. That always happens when a society allows authoritarianism to ascend into political power. Eventually, if we don't end up annihilating ourselves as a consequence, our society will overcome it (through much pain, struggle, and loss). From there, we'll go through another few generations of relative progress until it happens again. Dan's just hoping we can defuse that situation before it overtakes us. And I love his optimism. But it really is too late for that. The political earth has quaked. The next tsunami is already heading for our shores.
If you think man evolved from monkey’s and Jesus never claimed to be God you are not a Christian.
Im currently feeling this intensely in my life right now as someone who wants to return and grow in the faith. I was diagnosed with OCD as a teenager and deconverted to escape the constant cycle of whether or not im saved or good with God. That is until recently I returned back to the faith and so far am engaged with my fiancee. I know God brought us together so we may have a family and teach them what we've learned but the further ive been digging in the Bible, the more questions, confusions, and uncertainties I've developed, especially when some of the commandments go against me being able to be a competent husband and father "give all your wealth away" "do not resist evil and turn the other cheek" Ive been praying earnestly to help me accept and understand His Word. I guess maybe God wants me to be stronger and figure it out on my own, idk. I just want a way to know that I'm doing right with the Lord and feel uncertain every day about that.
Hey man, God knows you and loves you like you cannot understand. That love ain't going nowhere. You are ok and you will alway be ok.
As a follow of Jesus Christ how could they sit through all of the satanic dancing, a naked woman dancing and rituals being done on stage and not feel convicted? Everyone of them I believe are held a little bit higher because of their platforms. Kirk Franklin has dealt with a lot from his past and when I saw him saying let me get a picture either Drake he had a different spirit about him. The secular music awards mock our Lord, it’s not ok to join in just for one of their awards. Godly music should be all about winning souls for Jesus, not fame and fortune nor material things. God Bless!
Dan ain’t the most famous Bible scholar.
I specifically mentioned the phrase "in the past year" and I alluded to his total subscriber account all across social media wich adds to more that 1 million. There is no Bible scholar with a higher growth rate than him in the past year. That was my point
Jesus said that scripture was God speaking.
Would you care to mention include those passages?
@OctavioMoss Matthew 22: 31 is the passage that comes to mind. He equates scripture with God speaking.
Dan doesn’t do well when he’s actually challenged. Creator Inspiring Philosophy pretty much showed McClellan to be a paper tiger. Their interaction was a textbook study in how people like Dan do more to convolute than to clarify.
Have you ever seen him debate a conservative scholar? I am generally curious...
His belief in Mormonism completely discredits his scholarship.
Why? There are Christian biblical scholars of many denominations; there are atheist biblical scholars; there are scholars who are agnostic. Why should Dr. Dan's Mormonism affect his scholarship any more than those scholars? Or do you only accept the scholarship of those scholars who are only out to prove the Bible, despite what the evidence may show?
"The most famous and followed bible scholar" Yet nobody in my reputable, secular institution's theology and biblical studies programs cites his work. It's never recommended in the Further Reading sections of our coursebooks. Whereas non-believing biblical scholars like Dr. Bart Ehrman are. His arguments regularly contain logical fallacies, and his entire "data over dogma" thing is in fact a dogma of it's own. Any biblical scholar worth their salt has a specialization, ie. Dr. Michael S. Heiser was an expert on Old Testament and Hebrew, Ehrman is New Testament, etc. etc.... McClellan seems to present himself as an expert in all things and just sticks to the "biblical scholar" moniker with little discussion about his actual qualifications. He also does a few subtle visual things - he wears comic book t-shirts to appear more like the fictional genius Dr. Sheldon B. Cooper of "Big Bang Theory" fame. He regularly presents things as academic consensus when it's either not as universally agreed as he implies, or doesn't mention credible minority positions in academia like a reputable scholar would. Either way, one cannot fact-check his assertions because he regularly doesn't cite sources (when claiming academic consensus, one should cite a study with the particular subject for the sole purpose of recognizing where the aggregated consensus is, so that one's own biases aren't involved in the declaration of consensus "because all my colleagues I know seem to all agree"). He also uses lots of what academics call "weasel words" (such as "scholars agree" with no citations of which scholars, etc.). He may be "most famous and followed, with 1M followers" but I must ask if this content creator checked out all the social media followings of other biblical scholars across all platforms in the same manner. McClellan has only 72k subs on YT, while Heiser has 194k, and Mike Jones has 446k subs.... most of McClellan's followers are on TikTok, and I don't think that fame really counts when nobody talks about him in the field he works in professionally, just like Logan and Jake Paul are famous but there's very little respect for them in, say, professional boxing.
A woke MORMON who ran as a democrat twice, I doubt he even believes his own religion let alone in Jesus based on his interviews, Christians beware
A lot of human debate. Little of scripture. Or none.
If you speak really fast, you must be right.
Thank you for sharing this information as it is needed especially for those who do not study the word of God or read anything else for that matter. The Body of Christ is well equipped, God always has a remnant in every sector and occupation. Romans 11:4 NIV "And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." You can underestimate people, never God!
Take it back for CHRIST!!!
Dan is a heretic. The Bible warns us of these false teachers.
2E LOVE IT!! YESSSS! BEING THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS!!! YES BRANDON!!!!!
for starters he isnt anywhere close to the most famous scholar by any means and second just go to sam shamouns channel and see a real scholar show how dan is not even a christian. he is a fraud. mormans are not christians. i bet this channel is also a morman.
Does his personal beliefs negate his scholarship? Do you think that is how it works?
@@OctavioMoss I would never trust a Mormon to arbiter on the bible, his whole religion was faked and provably so
We are the light of the world.We belong everywhere n Jesus demonstrated this Very clearly ❤
Sorry dan whoever is not going to change my christianity. It is all about the triune God real in your life.
Sounds as though Dan McClellan is a nominal Mormon. I agree with almost everything he says in the clips in this video. I think the way he describes Jesus' divinity best reflects the biblical emphasis on Jesus' divinity, but I disagree that Jesus never claims to be God. I think it's more a matter of western Christendom traditionally emphasizing aspects of Jesus' divinity that are irrelevant to the story of Scripture, but more necessary for theological systems. The theological system can be accurate, but it's a distraction from the point of Scripture. Our focus should be on what the Scriptures are telling us, not on how to reconcile this all within an encyclopedic framework. It is necessary for western-culture Gentiles, due to the culture, to want to rationalize and organize all knowledge, including biblical knowledge, but we do better to transcend and universalize the culture into ways that the Scripture would shop and govern our thinking.
I like you Glen...fire
Dan is a liar. Just like Muslims attacking us Christians. While all church fathers debunk the lies of dan and muslims.
Jesus didnt teach an eternal hell. He most likely taught either anhialationism or short term conscious torment followed by annihilationism.
By denying the deity of Christ, he by default calls Jesus a liar, and therefore a liar, for liars have their part in the lake of fire and no part in the New Jerusalem. As liars are accursed by God for committing an abomination against Him, for He is Truth, he has by default violated I Corinthians 12:3: Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Jesus says that it is a Broadway that leads to destruction, and those who try to broaden the margins of Christianity are anathema to it. Does this make me doctrinaire and dogmatic? How much more restrictive was Christ when He said that He was the only Door and no one comes to God except through Him, and all who seek another way are thieves!! There are many counterfeits in the world, but only one is Truth, and Christians must be wise enough to not swallow poison, no matter how sweet the flavor or attractive the bottle.
Mormonism is not Christian, which means he's not a Christian. So, no, Christians don't need to listen to him. Why would a Christian seek advice from a Satanist on how to be a good Christian? Nor should a Christian seek non-Christian advice concerning sound Christian doctrine. Only a fool would espouse that ecumenicalist ideological insanity!
THIS is why you need the Tradition of the Church to give understanding of how the Early Church interpreted the Scripture and documents they had. Welcome to the Catholic Church.
Apparently, "deconstructionism" is alive and well.
He is a witness of Jesus Christ. We love him❤❤
Historically, Christians didn’t view the Bible the Muslims do the Koran. It seems to me that Dan presumes this modern view held by Protestants. Moreover, Dan doesn’t seem to understand the way the Bible functioned in the ancient church. Lastly, it’s not possible for Dan’s personal beliefs to influence his “research”. Thinking otherwise is silly.
'Before Abraham was, I Am'. 😊
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@@OctavioMoss Jesus was putting the pieces together that he was indeed God, as in a member of The Godhead. So to say that nowhere in scripture did Jesus say 'I am God' is not correct.
Exactly, and the Jewish leaders knew he was saying he was God. Otherwise, why would they pick up stones to stone him?
@@CuriousThinker1776 Basic 101 in orthodox theology. A departure for that essential doctrine, teaching or 'dogma' (as some use for nefarious reasons) and that's a departure from the Christian faith. Some teachings are not negotiable.
@@1969cmp I do get what you are saying, Here is where I disagree with Dan
'.....the evolution of humanity.....', thats a red flag 🚩 🤔
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@@OctavioMoss 'Evolution of man' defaults to the Darwinian evolution idea and that mankind, apes and monkeys evolved from a common 'ape-like' ancestor.
@@OctavioMoss Biblically, the first human being were created. Humanity did not evolve from non-humans and do not share common ancestoral lineage with monkeys or apes.
First time I've heard of him. Bible Sojourner is excellently Biblical.
I am so thankful to have the Holy Spirit of the true living God in my life. God would have me to stay away from anyone that teaches against his word. I remember watching only one video before by Mr. McClellan. I had not prior knowledge of him. But from that one brief video the Holy Spirit was letting me know not to listen to this man. I mean no disrespect to Mr. Meclellan he speaks with scholarly biblical knowledge. But when I hear him speak it come across as if the only way to understand God's word is through historical biblical theology and man's intelecual logic. As if the Holy Spirit that dwells in all believer does not play a major roll in what God would speak into us individually as beleiver in Christ. This verse comes to mind. Galatians 3:3 New King James Version 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh. Christians should seek guidance from Gods word and allow the Holy Spirit to lead you to the truth revealed within it. God will not lead you astray if you seek him for the truth in his word.
What makes you think that both approaches are at odds?
Go Dan!
If anything, the more i hear from Dan or for that matter any scholar on the bible Christian or otherwise, it certainly weakens the dogma of sola scriptura in my eyes at least. Am i alone in that respect?
It certainly does undermine sola scriptura I think, but I would also argue that it does not do so any more than it undermines most other common ways people develop theological ideas, precisely because these ideas are just... developed. By people. A big through line of Dan's public messaging is that people "negotiate with the text" to make it more meaningful to them. Crucially, negotiation happens in many ways. If someone imposes sola scriptura, then this negotiation occurs by working with just the bible they have and reinterpreting its passages. A different approach is having St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas riff on what they think makes sense for the nature of hell and differential punishment of sins to be (random example), and then just placing that interpretation in your tradition alongside your bible. At the end of the day, an interpretative tradition is an interpretative tradition, subject only to what we want and need our religion to mean.
thank you sir. this so called scientist/theologian is so deep in the bs
Indeed. The 'evolution of man' is a serious problem and straying from the Bible, Hebraic, the belief of the early church.....
Give him two minutes with any competent presuppositionalist EO Christian and dan's dead in the water. Dan constantly engages in fallacious claims by appealing to "experts" plus how does he ground logic reason knowledge etc this dan fella just believes Christians must grant him his ungrounded axioms for the claims he makes plus he's LITERALLY A MORMON !!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 let him debate Jay Dyer, madeByJimbob, Tristan Haggard, AC etc. Lol! Wont happen cos he'll get stomped destroyed or whatever ya wanna call it. Anyway, i pray he repents, finds the church, and starts living for Christ. May the Lord turn his heart toward our savior 🙏
We’ve sinned against God and God alone, therefore it is God alone (not a created being) who must be crucified for our sin to redeem us; either that or we all die: Psalm 51:4; Hebrews 9:22; Hebrews chapter 10
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That's a scripture salad of two texts written centuries apart from each other, one from a Psalmist who, if he had a concept of a messiah that far back it was a political one, and one from a book that even the church father Origen said was falsely attributed to Paul. Not a great argument.
@@melaniephillips4238 interesting point about possible political attribution, but isn’t it a fact that in the scope of eternity we have sinned against our creator God and God alone? If Jesus was created then he’d simply be another part of creation. If that’s the case then I can see why man would be tempted to worship him, but why did God say “let all the angels of God worship Him”?
He has put the false atheist evolution doctrine before the Truth of the bible telling us the origins of man and world. He is one of the many false teachers the bible warns us about, and many of his followers have been deceived, sadly.
Unfortunately this comment makes me far more sad than any thing Dan has ever said. You need to read more from people outside of your church community. The world is much bigger and most people, including scientists and scholars, are not out to get Christianity.
It’s worth pointing out that Dan was refuting the notion that Jesus claims to be God not asserting that Jesus is not God. Those are two different things. It is also worth noting that Mormons do believe that Jesus is God, although they have a different conception of the Holy Trinity than mainstream Christianity, so the claim that Dan MacLellan is saying this because he’s a Mormon is just ignorant of their theology.
You are right there. But, from all of the videos that I've watched from him, I am almost 99% sure that he does not believe Jesus is God either...but there is a chance I am wrong there
True, @aaronlund4250. Dr. Bart Ehrman has written an entire book, "How Jesus Became God", about that very subject -- that Jesus did not claim to be God. But in my opinion, if Jesus did not believe he was God, the foundation of the idea of Christianity is a fully a human construction. And I say that as a 70 year old, brought up firmly in the faith and now an agnostic.
never heard of him. for sure not the most famous.
Numbers in the past year suggest otherwise
@@OctavioMoss I hear you, great video.
Well, that explains it all...he's a Mormon. I'd love to see a debate between this guy (Dan) and James White.