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@Light over dark ministry 9:00 I have to say that as a Christian my purpose is not to DEFEAT the JW's but to LOVE them and to allow the HS to use me to bring them to the truth. Love covers a multitude of sin!!!! We war not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. I pray that our hearts are yielded to the HS as we approach others to bring them to the Love of Christ.

Really a gentle and fine person leaving an organization that I think pleased our Lord. These elders are so misled. When they talked obout God sacrificed his Son I was numm. Jesus took his life back as his body took the last breath, cause He was and is both spirit and flesh. We cannot say its the same as when we loose a child. And this " Jesus turning into the archangel Michael shocked me. It must be horribel to be in an organication like this, we all need to belong to those we love and I wish this brave man everything good + his family. ❤

So God is a creature, but not created?

Since Mary's conception was by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35, then please explain how was that possible if God were a Trinity. Father, Son, and holy Spirit.

The Jehovah witnesses are wrong on just about everything, but they are correct about the Trinity...The Trinity is a false doctrine. Jesus himself debunked the Trinity, when he said: "I and the Father are one" John 10:30, and "If you have seen me you have seen the Father. John 14:9. If the Holy spirit was a person, then how could Mary have conceived Jesus with himself, If God was a trinity? Since Mary conception was by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35. Also, if the holy Spirit was a person then Jesus Father has to be the holy Spirit, not God as he claimed...

I’m Only half way through but if the governing body said the next day Jehovah and Jesus are the same these elders would change their minds on a whim and be like oh ok I see where they get that in scripture 😂

"how should we see you?" gee, idk, as a fucking human being!! it's so ironic that these clowns are so concerned about their public image when their public image is being a misogynistic, shunning cult full of pedophiles

The bottom line is , he’s being punished for not agreeing with the elders agreeing with 11 guys in upstate New York. It has nothing to do with the Bible. It’s with him disagreeing with the governing body. That religion is a complete and utter joke.

You were a Jehova's Witness yourself,allowed Satan's tricks to play in your own mind,we all will at the end be judged by HIM

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i had acall to my door from J W swho said no one is in heaven yet only god and the angels,,,, so i aked them to open their bible where our lord is being crucified onthe cross....where he said to the thief being crucified also asking for mercy TRULY I TELL YOU ON THIS DAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE they closed the book and left abrubtly

Disagree with the Bible, "we dont care". Disagree with the WATCHTOWER Corporation, you are out of here, excommunicated, no longer in their mind control indoctrination..

Such an evil man made organisation

NEVER has an elder been convinced by a leaving JW, that they do not have the truth. And yet these deceived EX-JW's go and argue in a Tribunal, to 3 brainwashed puppet elders of the WATCHTOWER Corporation and ALWAYS get disfellowshipped every time. And yet for 12 years I have been offering a legal remedy to all of this, where an AWAKE JW can leave anytime they want to, with absolutely all of their rights in tact, and no one will bother you. But here we are again, a dead argument where these CULT leaders will silence you religiously and corporately, and you argue a powerless defense to the blind Corporate religious leaders and lose. One more EX-JW bites the dust.

When I see JWs, etc., approaching my door I get naked and open the door. Last time I did that was about 8 years ago. Word must get around; I haven't had a problem with them since.

Invite them in for a drink

PAINFUL TO HEAR. First of all, your baptism is not a verbal or written contract to anyone, a man or organization, it is to Jehovah God ONLY. Not one person or entity can manage your personal contract with God. The WATCHTOWER acknowledges this in writing in their publications. The Elders are Corporate Officers or Agents of WATCHTOWER Corporation, NOT that of the unincorporated name "Jehovah's Witnesses", [which is a free church of Christ, non incorporated], that cannot be legally managed by a Corporate entity [WATCHTOWER], according to IRS 501C3 Rules. WATCHTOWER cannot excommunicate, disfellowship or fire any JW publisher, because they are in no way a member in contract with WATCHTOWER Corporation. A JW that id NOT an Elder, pioneer or Servant, is a volunteer from the public. All Meetings held at the Kingdom Hall are WATCHTOWER Corporation organized, Use Corporate publications teaching Corporate bi-laws, and are open to the public for anyone to come and listen without membership or obligations. EVERYTHING A JW DOES IS: VOLUNTEER, not contractual. Therefore, the WATCHTOWER can be sued if they excommunicate you, for: defamation of character, non disclosure of terms and conditions in a contract that does not exist, possible loss of jobs or work in connection to the excommunication, clergy penitent privilege was breached when they discussed this matter to the Body of Elders [Corporate agents]. The WATCHTOWER must PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT YOU BREACHED YOUR CONTRACT WITH THEM, YOUR MEMBERSHIP CARD, YOUR CONTRACT AND PROOF OF BAPTISM TO THE CORPORATION, NOT TO GOD, etc. Not only are the elders dumb as a fence for believing they are representing God instead of being WATCHTOWER CORPORATE AGENTS, but ALL JW's are also guilty of being guilty of IGNORANCE OF LAW, both Biblically and legally, or they would never show up in a committee meeting, and you can make the entire meeting never happen by presenting a notarized AFFIDAVIT via USPS Certified Mail with proof of delivery, requesting they prove your membership amongst other things, with a 10 day mandatory rebuttal from them in an AFFIDAVIT, by the elder body for their proof of claim against you. If they do not answer your legitimate truth and facts questions in the AFFIDAVIT in the time frame given, by law, they terminate the entire procedure and legally must acquiesce to your AFFIDAVIT whether they attempt to answer it or ignore it. They can never touch you again. IF YOU EVER WANT TO REVERSE THEIR DECISION THROUGH AN AFFIDAVIT WITHOUT NOTHING MORE THAN A POSTAGE STAMP, all of this will go away within two weeks because these ignorant A-holes are clueless that they cannot do what they are doing legally, unless YOU CONSENT TO IT. Use the legal process of: RULE OF DISCOVERY in order to send them an AFFIDAVIT to appeal their Corporate process against a non-Corporate person as yourself. STOP FIGHTING IN THEIR BACK ROOM TRIBUNALS, ARGUING AGAINST THEIR CORPORATE BI-LAWS you are not under. JW's are under Biblical Law, Not WATCHTOWER Corporate Bi-Laws in which they run their billion dollar Corporation under.

Get removed. This is false religion. LED by satan.

F these elders. They will pay for their sins.

These guys are idiots.

Jesus is the devil Christians. Worship satin with a human sacrifice of Jesus to Satan Repent accept jahovah and do good works

This brother has a hard time understanding because he is an indoctrinated idiot.

You don’t need publications to understand the bible. Scripture interprets scripture.

There is a serpent in the organization now.

Some people dont think of JQ, Mormons, scientologists, abd others as a religion! Its pretty far feathed!

The JW's are just like the early Israelites. A bunch a stupied idiots.

It's a printing press business!!

They dont know the national conventionis at every yr?? Rochester, Ny and they cant wait till they leave town!!! Mormons came from Palmyra, Ny andvery few know that, they dont even know who Joesph Smith is??

Been the last days for well over a century ...mmm...funny that.

This makes me sick. The elders are acting like it is not their fault that they are judging, shunning and ruining this brothers life by seperating him from hos wife and family... They act like they love and respect him, but they are hypocritical! They show no respect or love and they even put the blame on him for their disfellowshipping and judgment.

They are more worried about brotherhood stuff than his soul. Legally, they are more concerned about the benchmark name than he being a follower of Christ Jesus. Just sad. Everybody should recognize this is a cult. Please pray that Jehovah witnesses change their doctrines and focus more on love than judging ones for thinking for themselves and their family. Your relationship with God is a personal one.

This elder shunned his mom for over 30 years? What a fool.

They are not led by holy spirit. How can it be spirit directed? By uninspired men?

These elders are company men. They have no power.

When they deny the trinity, have them read in their "new world translation" bible (Matthew 28:19) Then ask them how many are mentioned..? "The Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost!" (Yep: The trinity is in their own bible!)

Well all I can say is who was Jesus praying to every time he was praying divine son of god that’s who Jesus is not 3 in 1 lie there

Jehovah witnesses are lost as well as Roman Catholics.

He is acting like a “little kid” who has to explain everything to his “parents.” This is SAD. HE has to answer to GOD, and He should have a relationship with [his GOD.]. We answer to “Him” NOT to people!! WE can ONLY approach Him thru JESUS!! NOT the Elders!! They are trying so hard to put words in his mouth…. HE made a decision. That is it!! WHAT is all of this explaining?? Like a child!!

See how they lie about Churches?? The Biggest lie is how they bad mouth all other Worship, and all other Worship is just as serious about GOD, even more than Jehovah’s WITNESSES!! A sin?? Going to visit a Church is a sin??? It is just another Worship!!!

Is he disfellowshipped??

They’re more interested in the organization and the arrangement set up by the governing body then they are about Jesus. One of them men said at 36:52 he should do more deep study into the watchtower publications basically to re-indoctrinate him into the faults teachings that he’s already woken up from reading the Bible itself. I bleed with you my brother, so many other EXJWs like myself have been in your situation. Stay firm in your faith in Christ Jesus and he will lead you like the Good Shepherd you know him to be! Thank you Father for drawing us to your Son. John 6:44-65

Also, please listen to that little man in your heart. They will have drowned him but he is still alive. Save yourself. Once you get 'awakened', it will all fall into place. Also, research, research, research. But HOLD YOUR OWN COUNSEL. I know instinctively you believe it is the Truth and if you are happy, stay in. But the JW Governing Body ... just look into their new member. A Bethelite but also an expert in real estate. No man can judge you. Just fade away. Do not go back if they are blackmailing you by shunning.