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lol you’ll never see a no marijuana sign at magic mountain our smoking area is basically for weed all the time I pass it smells good lmao 🤣 I haven’t seen some one smoke a cig in the smoking area in forever it’s probably cuz it’s California culture thing I be forgetting how the rest of the states are

I see a place for both companies and look forward to new and updated coasters!

Glad you're back and in a good spot!!

Oh, Darien Lake? OK. For some reason I thought your video was going to be about how Cedar Point is going to "rise from mediocracy to greatness, or at least become decent." 😉

Darien Lake needs better food establishments, especially with INDOOR, AIR CONDITIONED SEATING!!! They got nothin'!

I think part of what might be going on with management and improvements could also have to do with Gene Staples buying and reopening Niagara Amusement / Splash World (former Fantasy Island). That has the potential to take from Darien Lake some of the amusement park money within the region if it is done correctly. Many parks need both locals plus tourism to survive, and the two parks are only about 45 minutes from each other. For sure - enthusiasts are likely to visit both parks if going to the region, but locals are more likely to pick one of the two parks. Furthermore tourists who are not enthusiasts and just want to go to a park for a day are likely to pick one or the other.

Interesting video. Even though I live in Buffalo I've had a season pass at Canada's Wonderland for the last 5 years because the few times I went to Darien Lake in the past I was sorely disappointed. The place was run down and the coasters were uncomfortable to say the least. I've been to other Six Flags parks and I've noticed general shabbiness compared to the several CF parks I've been to. My hope is that with the merger the SF parks will be brought up to CF standards. You brought up some interesting points. I think returning all the coasters to two train operations will be a big plus as will the retracking of Predator. I believe that being able to visit SF parks with a CF Gold Pass with all-park addon will also be a plus. I know that I'll visit more often just because it's so convenient (and included). I would also like to see the SF parks go to the CF Fast Lane option, which I think is better than what SF has now. I agree that Darien Lake really does need another big coaster to draw in crowds. A one-two-three punch with Ride of Steel, a retracked Predator and maybe a launch coaster would make it a good lineup for a regional park. And, yes, improve on the food options - the last time I went I spent $35 on food for two of us that was barely adequate. Darien Lake is a park with a ton of potential. Make the place look better, add a new coaster and do a media blitz to showcase what's been done. Advertise in Buffalo, Rochester and even Syracuse and the Niagara region of Ontario. The place could easily be a highly-rated SF/CF mid-tier park. I would hate to see the place close down. I was brought up in Corfu and worked during my high school years at Darien Lake when it was only a campground with and arcade, bike rental, mini golf and general store. I'm talking back in the mid 1970's. Yes, I'm old. But I still love coasters and theme parks and I'm hoping that the SF/CF merger only brings good things to Darien Lake.

What about Six Flags America, a park that seems to be neglected by the company

Wow, great video. Worth the wait. :)

Even if they can't justify staffing or reworking the whole campground entrance/plaza, I'd love to just see a bridge in front of the cobra roll of boomerang. Nothing fancy just something similar to the small bridge you go over to get to Mind Eraser. In addition to Covid, another deterrent for Canadians coming back, may be the cost of border crossing. Just this past spring the cost of the cheapest option, the NEXUS card was approved to go up from $50 to $120. These fee increases will take affect Oct.,1 2024. Remember, prior to 2009, border crossing was free with a simple document like a birth certificate to prove citizenship. Great video, keep 'em coming!

I'm from Toronto and a few months back did a Cedar Fair mini road trip to CP & KI and had a blast with our chain wide seasons pass on top of loving a half hour away from Wonderland. We've already gotten the same pass for next year and have our eyes set on LaRonde and Dariend Lake as well as a few other East US parks. It's been about 17 years since I've been there and Ride of Steel was my first ever hyper and can't wait to see how much my interpretation of it has changed since I've become an enthusiast.

This a great video with a lot of good info. Thanks for making it. I have been going to Six Flags Darien Lake since I was a kid, and the last two years I have been a season pass holder. It has definitely gotten a lot of quality of life improvements, that have been awesome to see! I hope what you said about two train operations is true. With the uptick in attendances it will really help. Also, I was told by someone in the park that Predator will be finished next year with the entire layout getting Titan track. I would love a new coaster but I’ve heard that there won’t be one for at least another two to three years. Lastly, I have heard people say that the park is landlocked. I find this to be very untrue.There seems to be so much space everywhere in the park. Especially where the old waterslides used to be.

Oh yeah, he is BACK! Love to see you back at it Josh. Hope the next one, even if it's a month, is just a station wait away!

So glad to see you coming out on the other side of a life experience that has made you more resilient and well equipped to handle what life presents you down the line. I just wanted to say that these moments come in all different forms for each of us, but the defining moments of what steers us in which direction is where we find our true character. The founder of little tikes sold that company and founded step 2. The beauty of life is that regardless of what hand we are dealt, the way we play our hand determines our reach. You have a big fan in me, all my support goes to you man. ❤

Visited Darien Lake back in 2022. I haven't watched your video yet, but I wanna share my input; 1. You can tell corporates gives zero f's about this park. 2. The staff that worked here, from food service, ride operators, you name it - absolutely were giving 100% to their jobs. This is something that you don't see everywhere 3. Predator felt surprisingly smooth and nice. I haven't felt that "rough" - the worst for me is old Wildcat at hersheypark. 4. investing massive into existing rides is 100% not something a park about to close would do.

I have never been to Darrien lake but want to go. I agree to ditch the Pepsi for Coke. Same with the one in Oklahoma City

A lot of what you are describing, has been true across all of the Six Flags parks this year. They shifted their focus to a lot of infrastructure and beautification, because it was the biggest complaint about the parks.

I hate how much hate this park gets, literally just walk around and you’ll see it’s a nice park, it’s nice to see that someone else feels the same way that I do about this park

I really hope this happens! I’m excited for predator and mind erasers refurbishments next year

I went to Darien in 2021 amd honestly it probably was the worst park I ever went too however I would be willing to give the another chance as it was covid times

I am hopeful they continue the upward trend. Ideally i would love EPR to sell to SF and let them invest as they want as opposed to what EPR wants to invest. The REITs just want to milk it for as much as they can.

It's been known for many years that despite the 1 train ops the park owns at least 2 trains for every coaster (except Ride of Steel). Their reasoning for not using more than a single train at a time was to make them last longer and make maintenance easier, which I can understand, but when you're busy you need to move people faster on your marquee rides. Viper in particular still has 3 whole trains... Mind Eraser and Predator were in the worst shape, with both having "frankentrains" cobbled together with parts cannibalized from each other to try and keep them running past their natural expiration date. It was painfully obvious on Mind Eraser where you could see the odd colored parts on not matching trains.

I completely agree. I feel that DL has some of the highest potential in the Chain. Already has the Hotel and Camping options ready to go. It's literally a half hour from downtown Buffalo (if even that long). Plus it hosts some of the biggest concert tours go through there every summer. There is also plenty of expansion room for rides and themed areas. The park needs to really spruce up all of its rides and buildings with fresh coats of paint and other simple modern touches. I feel it needs a coaster or other major ride that really pops on its Skyline both from the road and the concert Venue. I'll always remember the first concert I went to there and all I could see from the venue was Viper and the very top of Ride of Steel. It would help generate outside interest if there was some more interesting looking rides from the amphitheater. I agree it could use a major thrill coaster to help beef up it's line-up. Maybe a multi-launch of some variety as Moto-coaater is a nifty coaster, but it's definitely more of a family coaster then a major thrill one. Also it could benefit from a more unique coaster, maybe an RMC Wild Moose coaster would fit in nicely. So many ideas for this park I hope the New Six Flags will give it some much needed investments in the next few years.

Welcome back, man! I visited Darien Lake for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of fun I had! I visited on the same day that I did Waldameer, so I didn’t have much time at the park, but I was able to get on everything in about two hours. But either way, it was a beautiful and decently well-run park that I am sure that I would have loved even more if I had more time to do so. It has the potential to become a big park in the Six Flags/Cedar Fair chain!

I thought you were gonna say Six Flags St Louis because that park has really improved in the last few years.

It really feels like they are preparing to shut down Discovery Kingdom. Every single one of their coasters have been operating on only one train this entire season. 2 of their major coasters have not opened at all this season. And flat rides are just neglected. I saw that the weather balloons in Looney Toons Seaport was almost non existent. I hope this merger saves Discovery Kingdom. I would be really bummed if this merger kills it

Everything must and will change. That goes with everything in life.

I almost wanted to say SFA but well I was definitely thinking this too. Given SFDL is a resort, I can only see the Cedar Fair side wanting to capitalize on it. Before the merger, I had my doubts that Six Flags would do anything worthwhile for the park.

HAHA!!! YES! I'm his friend and I had no advance knowledge, but TOTALLY knew this was going to be Darien Lake. Welcome back Josh!

i thought they sold this park 😭

Glad to have you back Josh!

I would love to be apart of the social media team for DL! 🥲❤

Dude ..isn't Darien lake just run by six flags and owned by another company....seems that company has to pick up their investment game

This is my home park. It may not be the best to others but its one thing people in our city can be proud of and have fun at considering we don't have a lot of amusement parks in western NY. There is always a concert going on so that is one thing that help keep the business going. I think they should do a survey to see what the consumers may want to see and do in the park besides rides so there is always something to do. Thanks for sharing this video, great content!

I'll tell ya, as my home park it sure feels like theyre getting ready to kill off Discovery Kingdom. Every single coaster there has been operating on solely one train this entire season, even at peak days. And 3 of the coasters haven't opened at all this entire season not to mention flat rides. The way the park and rides have been neglected is incredibly disappointing.

I just found out the craziest thing. I thought buying an all park passport would be a bust for Canadians because at my home park (Six Flags Over Georgia) it costs $375 on top of your season pass. This is more than double the cost of the prestige pass, so it seemed to me like buying two season passes would be cheaper. However, for Canada's Wonderland, the all park passport is only $99 to add the all park passport to the prestige pass. I wondered if Darien Lake was more similar to Over Georgia, and it is. Likewise, Carowinds is similar to Canada's Wonderland. So, depending on where you live, it looks like it is cheaper to buy a legacy Cedar Fair park season pass with the all park passport than it is to buy a legacy Six Flags park pass with their passport. That's weird.

Even a couple high end flat rides would be a start. A swinging disc would be perfect where the Bigwheel used to be.

I think that food expansions are the biggest draw for newcomers. I can't stand it when parks have the run of the mill slop. I would rather have quality food over quality roller coasters and my park is CP. I've seen rides come and go but when they got better food options I was so pleased. It isn't about getting new people in the park, it's about return rates. When a small park throws a huge ride in it usually kills the park, Geauga Lake. Aurora Ohio, I drive through it frequently. The park had no reason to be where it was. If you're complaining about the parking lot then they absolutely cannot handle a new major roller coaster. For a small park they can only really do one or two new things at a time. They are ramping up, I would imagine they are going to be getting better food options and quality of life expansions like the layout and parking lot.

do u think frontier city or great escape will be removed and tbh great escape looks good and the new coaste bobcat has a cool theme so idk but frontier city we will have to see

They really need some new flat rides also, other than Sky Screamer everything seems to be from the 80s or older. If they're moving to 2 train ops on everything for next year repainting Ride of Steel and Viper would really be a huge cosmetic facelift for the park (glad to see you making videos again)

I'm so glad you mentioned the layout of the park, that has been the most annoying thing regarding this park. It really does seem like they have a potential at this park to do something pretty good growing the reach of the park.

Interesting video, but it sounds like this is your home park so there’s definitely some bias.

Darien lake has run 1 train on all coasters for at least the last 6 years. Viper has 2 trains

As a kid in the 80s, I used to go to Darien Lake, Hersheypark, and Dorney since they were all about the same distance and pretty comparable. Over the last several decades, Dorney fell behind and Darien Lake fell way behind. I also remember going to a Metallica concert at Darien Lake in the late 90s, hitting the amusement park before the show in the evening and the park was PACKED. What’s happened at Darien Lake is due to all the various owners and management issues over the last two decades, not a market size issue. If they get their stuff together and market to Buffalo/Rochester, this should be a strong park and a money maker. Needs to be in that order - they can’t market what they currently are to people they spent two decades alienating - if people come back and see the same old same old, they’re not going to give Darien Lake another chance.

DL is not tops in the attendance stats. For a park to make it into the top 20 for USA, they need to have 3 million visitors. I'm guessing DL is less than 1.5 million, which would put them with SF Discovery Kingdom, Dorney Park, Holiday World, and Kentucky Kingdom, which are estimated near 1.2 million. The things you mention are great ideas, but the suits don't have the money to do it. These parks are what I call Step Children. And yes, they should be advertising on billboards in airports, to all the people visiting Niagara falls. If a park is not a destination like CP, then the population has to be big enough to support it. Think about this, Carowinds has the #1 coaster in the land with Fury 325, and it's not in the top 20 for attendance. Even if DL does everything you mention, they still won't make it into the top 20.

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I truly hope they do something with this park. I’m new in the area moved from nyc and great adventures being my home park Darien lake makes me sad every time I go. They have so much land they can build on.

What are your thoughts on this rumor that Six Flags owns Marine Land now? Do you think they will build up a park close to Darien Lake or just quietly dismantle and close it despite the excellent location?

Camping at Darien Lake was an annual tradition for my family for so many years when I was a kid, I highly recommend it. Hearing Viper testing early in the morning, echoing from a mile away was magical, makes me nostalgic every time I hear an Arrow lift hill

The moment you said what park it was I immediately decided to click off and not watch the rest of the video with an open mind. But actually this is very interesting, it's really nice to see a video that goes into such detail on one park. Here's to a great future for the park!