Reaction to Shaka Zulu vs Julius Caesar. Epic Rap Battles of History
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Caesar's last line is the nail in the coffin for Shaka because Shaka outlawed the growing of wheat - which inevitably led to his halfbrothers killing him.
It was a double hit. Not only about the wheat, but Caesar also like to enslave those he conquered.
@@myfatazkitchen3407 caesar was not owning slaves. it was community service. after conquering the land he would offer people to work for him (and yes he would pay them) as allies, or die as his enemies. off course caesar being sadistic bastard that he was, he would take pretty much most of the money he pays them back at the end of the month through taxes and levies but that doesnt change the fact that he was not a slaver
@@frankcayseron8637 I mean . . . prisoners of war were taken as slaves for a predetermined period of time, it wasn't the "lifetime of slavery" thing we associate that with in the modern day . . . but that was because most slaves throughout history were only kept as prisoners of war for, at most, a single generation. It was only the Transatlantic slave trade that famously produced slaves that were kept their whole lives, and the lives of all theur descendants afterward.
As for the work comment . . . not to be crass, but it is called "wage slavery" for a reason.
@@elijahpadilla5083 never heard of term "wage slavery" before, probably cause its non-existent outside usa. also can you tell me how this term became a trend cause it sounds like some bullshit white women would try to pull off to associate with black culture. "oh we are slaves, sure we are white and get paid but its wage slavery"
@@frankcayseron8637 its exactly that lol
You're mostly right about Caesar and the pirates. At first he baulked at the ransom demand (because he thought they were lowballing), but during his captivity he got friendly with the crew. Later, he told the captain "After I'm released, I'm going to come back and crucify all of you," and the pirates laughed.
Until he immediately petitioned for control of a legion, captured the pirates and did just that.
In the show Xena, Caesar was played by a young Karl Urban
The poison spit wasn't about blowdarts, the zulu actually put a poison in their mouths and would spit it into their enemies faces. Or at least, thats from what i understand
It's not rome that looks like a boot, it's whole Italy he's refering to. Great reaction:D
I think its also a reference to the red boots he liked to wear as well.
@@SH-qs7ee there were no boots in Caesar's time. Roman soldiers and commanders would wear military sandals which were called Caligula in Latin. In fact, Romans during the Republic and Early Empire would see boots and pants as barbaric clothing because Barbarian tribes in Gaul and Germania would wear them (because it was cold in those areas) while the Romans would wear the same clothes as classical greeks with exposed legs and sandals.
@@zippyparakeet1074 the sandals were called caligae. Caligula's the third Roman emperor, caligula translates to little boot in Latin.
@@zippyparakeet1074the caligae were open boots
@@joaquin8416 yes you are right, my bad
I've always been impressed by just how good a job Nice Peter did playing Caesar.
I like that he didn’t try to do a British accent. It’s a weird thing in American media that Romans are always shown speaking with a refined British accent. I suppose we have Shakespeare to thank for that. In fact they’d sound more like Italians, since the Latin they were speaking is not the Latin people learn in school these days. But Romans sounding like Italians would probably sound funny
@@artembentsionov I think thats because most of the time the actors that play Romans are British.
After his mother’s death, Shaka went mad with grief and banned the growing of wheat as well as pregnancies. Any woman caught with a belly would have that belly cut open. It’s one of the reasons his half-brothers eventually killed him
This was a very one sided battle IMO, but I really wanted to like Shaka. Shaka shot himself in the foot a few times and Caesar came way too hard. Biggest oof for me was the getting stabbed by your friends line, when Shaka was killed by his own brothers...
Agreed. Very ineffective line.
The "Horns" was the name of the formation shown in the video. The outer edges would flank the enemy. But the Romans were famous for being one of the best flankers in their time. So Caesar breaks down how he's going to beat the Zulu.
"First my front lines will drop back and spank you in the chest" The Romans would pretend to retreat as the flanking soldiers closed in. The chest is the front of the Zulu formation, so Caesar says when the Zulu come to chase them they'll immediately break the front line.
"Then I'll decimate your horns, you can't outflank the best" The horns, once again, are the outer soldiers ready to flank. But Caesar is going to flank their flank.
"Let your reserves come at me, my ballista's cocked and (Ready!)" The reserves were the soldiers in the back behind the "chest." So this man literally just broke down his battle plan for beating the Zulu.
Shaka was killed by his half-brothers. I felt that should have been the counterpoint.
Yeah, knowing that, really weakens his bar about Caesar being killed by his friends.
Caeser was a nut job. When he was captured by the pirates allegedly he was insulted by what they asked for him so he told them to ask for more. He then proceeded to make friends with the pirates while quite open about the fact he was going to hunt them down.
Pure class like
While ceaser was kidnapped by that group he also heard how much they were demanding in ransom for him and ordered them to raise the amount.
Cow Skin shield and hide under it, You got the Cow hide, but also there's a bar to be had to "Cower" under your flimsy shield, He's calling shaka a coward and dissing his equipment.
The Romans were notorious for not genociding the entirety of their enemies, they would beat them into submission, annex them to the empire and have them produce as vassals. Hence the wheat bar
Also raising your shield above your head was an almost universal sign of surrender
The can i be a hyena was a reference to one of shakas revenge sprees.
He captured the mother of a rival and murderer he locked the mother in a hut with hyenas where she was torn apart , later the next morning he burned down the hut .
That may be, but the second line is what puts it in context. Cause he said “laugh”.
@@whatitdodave True but thre are many references in shaka and ceasers lines , that have a double meaning,
PS, if you get the chance and if you havent already i would recomend to watch the mini series Shaka Zulu . not bad for an 80s series. Even the intro is a worth while song. as it was a number one hit in several nations.
A verry interesting character to say the least,
The kidnapper part is from when he was captured and ransomed, he told them how important he was and that they could get alot more for him, but that when he was released he would hunt them down... and they did... and so he did.
Caesar reminded me of a joke: Why is Italy shaped like a boot?
Because you can't fit all that shit into a tennis shoe!
Zulu armies primarily used spears (...pretty much like almost every ancient/medieval army everywhere.)
In fact, Shaka was quite revolutionary in the area of military tactics, IRRC: most sub-Saharan warriors fought as skirmishers with long-hafted throwing spears at the time. Shaka replaced these with short thrusting spears and had his fighters get in close & bloody. Actually, with their short spears and large shields, in close quarters Shaka's warriors fought in a manner very similar to Roman legionaries and their gladii.
The difference, of course, being the Romans Legionaries were heavy infantry while the Zulu were not.
@@Crazael Sorta depends on how you define "heavy infantry"; if you are talking equipment, then, yeah, the Romans had heavy armor and the Zulu didn't. If you are talking frontline shock infantry tactics, then I think they are a bit more comparable.
@@BalbazaktheGreat And trust me, as someone who lives in a similar climate as the Zulus; heavy armour will more like be a hindrance than help.
@@SH-qs7ee I imagine. And the Zulu were famous for being able to run for miles and still fight a battle afterward.
Keep em coming dave, love that you are doing all of them.
Perfect timing man. Came out on my balcony for a little smoke sesh for your first upload of the day. And now as I walk out for the second...here it is. Astounding.
Can't wait to sit down and watch! Hopefully it's a great day for ya Dave!
This is my first time watching one of your videos, but I enjoyed it very much. Thank you for sharing!
Wow, you're blasting through these. Love it!!
This is one of my favorites!
I really hate those simoleon pirates, always robbing my Sims.
Hey cool a double upload in one day. Thanks man
Quad actually 😂
im binging your reactions cause your voice is amazing lol, but for real hope you do good!
Conan the barbarian, super old show/movie, recent videogame. And the Zulu loved weapons on general, the more brutal the better. Shock tactics/forcing your enemy into ptsd is a viable strategy.
"Doc J"....Julius Erving was a 76ers basketball player in the 70's and 80's, was nicknamed Dr. J.
Man, the memories. Dr. J., Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Moses Malone, etc. I wasn't a huge sports fan in the 80's, everyone just knew those names back then. Larger than life personalities that loved the game. 🌟
Sigh, the good old days. Man, I feel old. 😔
Despite what Caesar said, Shaka’s warriors were good because they were disciplined and well-trained. Granted, not as disciplined as Romans, but still not the horde of barbarians Caesar claims they are
Caesar would Love Zulu Warriors because they are Quite familiär with Caesars Favorite tactics forced marches
The Dr. J line was a bar because like Caesar, his first name is Julius.
Shaka's opening flow was pretty nice but Ceasar's bars hit harder.
You were wrong on most things but you were having such a blast with this I had to sub
Great video! (:
Arbalest is also technically correct because a ballista is just a non-handheld arbalest which is just a crossbow with a mechanism to draw the cord back.
Technically speaking on siege tech that type of Ballista is a Roman Scorpion which was a mounted field crossbow and light Ballista used to counter infantry so perfect.
Gotta love the eye 👀 rolls from @whatitdodave
Duuude my dawg i do the same thing when I'm trying to get thought patterns together. But let me finish watch this video,lets get turnt and shut up
Shaka zulu actually had a signature formation for his troops (shown at 5:50), and when ceaser says "First my front lines will drop back and spank you in the chest, then I'll decimate your horns" (6:30), he's actually describing the exact way on how to destroy shakas formation.
Hell yeah this guy caught it is the only one to catch the pirate line. Speaking as someone with a masters degree in history I actually have theorized and write a thesis on my hypothesis that Cesar told him to increase the ransom to double it in order to pay for the expedition to hunt him down because he didn’t threaten to kill them until after he got them double their money and ransom after this he was dicing with them gambling with him drinking with them they thought he was just the coolest until he mailed them all to crosses
“If you cross that equator, you'll head straight into a massacre” was a direct reference to the Battle of Isandlwana in 1879 when the British CROSSED into Zululand and the regiment of over 1,800 Soliders got damn near wiped out by the Zulu Army of 10,000 to 15,000 leaving only roughly 60 of them to escape alive! Straight up massacre!
I bought some wheat bars at the corner store today. Keeps me regular.
fun fact the pirats also demanded like 50 units of gold for him and he told them they could ask for three times that. so they did and his family actually paid
They had a special short spear and shield usually and I believe some of them used what rifles they could take from the British
On this episode of ERB comes a battle between two different warriors, an emperor vs an African leader
No, the Aztecs preferred blunt weapons when wanting prisoners for execution and sacrifices...but they used sharp weapons. One was like an obsidian wooden type sword that would just chunk an opponent if it found flesh. The Aztecs were the best warriors in their area and the most innovative...thats why it took the Spanish (who they also defeated once) to beat them.
The Aztecs also preferred keeping thier opponet alive as opposed to killing, as immobilizing the enemy took more skill than just outright killing them. For each enemy brought back alive, an Aztec warrior would revive a Mark or some sort of symbol that demonstrated thier prowless. I believe that’s also how they ranked up.
@@whatitdodave which was partly ebcause they wanted those people as human sacrifices. See also: "Flower Wars". And that stuff was one of the reasons why the Spaniards actually got a huge amount of support from other natives, like the Tlaxcaltecs (who actually became quite favoured after the conquest).
bro
that one dreadlock going green
is dissapearing cause of the green box
I DID NOTICE THAT
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The amount of times this line "conan of the savanna" misses reactionists :D I love you Dave, and you are spot on in everything. But this line, you and every single other reactionist missed it; Ceasar famously called Shaka a barbarian, and so he uses the line Conan of the savanna, for conan the barbarian
It’s a pretty easy bar to understand my guy. It just wasn’t that impressive to stop the video on, unlike that Shakespeare bar 🔥🔥🔥
@@whatitdodave oh right, no worries :D Shakespear bar was sick, and Loyd and Peter are well versed in classic, so they always nail it. Regardless, I love your channel man, keep it up
@@liamciaran I need to get up on some of Zach’s music. I heard he’s a MONSTER lyricist. And from what I’ve heard so far, I been wanting some more.
The Zulu didn't "prefer" blunt weapons, that was what they could do with the resources they had. And they did also have spears, mostly wood with little metal. No iron ore, no massive stands of wood or veins of coal to use as fuel for large-scale smelting and metalworking. The precious metals findable in the region (copper & gold) are useless for weaponry...too soft. Romans didn't just have ingenuity on their side, they had natural resources.
The Dr J thing was about their shared first name, Julius.
“Going ham” comes from the acronym H. A. M., or “hard as a mfer.” There are varying origins behind the term, but he’s not only calling out that he uses a hammer, but he’s saying he goes harder. HAMmer.
3:05 not the city of rome, the entire state
I'll be honest, I wanted a reaction, but got a dissection.
But I love your Dimash reactions. 😁
To decimate something is to reduce by 10%. I believe the term actually comes from the Roman Legions it was a punishment. If it Legion demanded such a punishment they would kill 10% of it.
Conan of the Savanna - come on man. Its a reference to Conan the Barbarian....
If you want a great series to follow on youtube, check out Deadliest Warrior. They cover shaka zulu vs william wallace and one of the weapons shaka zulu has is called an Iwisa club so you can kind of call it a "hammer"
Your nitpicking. You knew what I was tryna say 🤣. I said warrior so I was close.
@@whatitdodave i gotcha bro 😂
This is a hard battle to choose a winner for me. I liked both. My favorite line was Shaka, though.
Dave! Its time to do Fight Fire With Fire from Metallica! You left a big one out!
Rome looks like a boot? I didn't know that. I knew that the entire country, Italy, looks exactly like a boot (minus Sicily of course)
The hyaena bar gives Caesar negative points in my opinion because a hyaena laughs when it is either scared or put under stress by something. So Caesar is saying that Shakas bars scares him or that he is stressing to come up with better bars.
Fun Fact the Romans used Divination Chickens before battle.
The pirate tae abot more to it he befriended them and said when i return my men will cruify you
Hyenas do sound like they are laughing. It's not a pleasant sound.
Shaka also got stabbed by his friends, so that bar was a double edged sword.
Not to be nitpicky, but they didn’t say “fire” as a command to shoot arrows. It wouldn’t make sense in the pre-gunpowder era. They’d most likely scream “Loose!” but it doesn’t sound as cool on screen. And while there was a “fire” command, it was for a guy with a torch to run across the line and light the arrows on fire
Yeah, Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by his friends, Shaka Zulu was stabbed to death by his brothers... so different.
I think one of Shaka's lines isn't valid. When he mentioned Ceasar's death at the hands of the Senate. This is the pot calling the kettle black.
Shaka was betrayed and murdered by his top generals. Who also happened to be his brothers. Their deaths were way to similar for Shaka to get away with a line like that.
The pirates were not from Somalia.
Close, but Aztec used obsidian, not rocks. Cut cleaner.
Julias would capture and enslave all of his enemies. It's nothing to do with Shaka being black or anything racial.
I didn’t say that it had anything to do with him being black. Where did you get that from?
@@whatitdodave you never did. I was just stating it as a general fact.
@@whatitdodave Sadly there's a lot of people who think like that not seeming to understand every race and nation has sadly been guilty of that sin (of course it doesn't help I've run into teachers that tell kids that the US invented slavery and other dumb shit like that >.>).
@@TheRyujinLP yeah. Racism was also not really a thing back then. It was more national and cultural discrimination. Examples: people who wore pants back in rome were shunned by some. And roman racism was simply, there are two types of people, roman citizens and barbarians
It was the shock I didn’t like to grow wheat it was that shockers mother had passed away and he wanted the entire country to fast with him so he band the growing of wheat this later led to his brothers killing him which is ironic because one of his insults on Cesar is yes I’ve heard of your play tell me how does the end you get stabbed many times by your friends well shock I got stabbed many times by his brothers so I think Julius might win that one too I’d rather be staffed by fours friends than my family
Yeah this battle was about as one sided as a real fight between the Zulu and the Roman legion would have been.
Biased opinion due to the name and everything, but despite Shaka´s amazing delivery I think my man JC owned him.
Yeah,gotta give the win to Ceasar for most savage bars and diss's. But I still think the best diss belongs to Shaka when he said you'll get F'd by more than just Cleopatra in Africa. That was a righteous slam. Since homosexuality was common with the Roman culture. So Ceasar for the win, Shaka for the best slam. The Doc J line referred to Julius Irving and his Dunk skills in NBA Basketball
Shaka was dismissive of European technology, especially writing and guns. He didn’t see the point of writing missives since he preferred to use couriers, who were responsible for the accuracy of the message with their lives. And guns of the time had poor aim and took a long time to reload, so a fast Zulu warrior could cross the distance and stab the musketman with his spear before he was able to reload
5:47 This particular retort from Shaka fails to do any damage. Yeah, Caesar was killed by his "friends." And Shaka was killed by his brothers, a fate much worse.
I'm not so sure; fratricide tends to be a pretty common theme in history, alienating your friends to the point they take turns stabbing you though; that takes skill.
I love you Dave. And I love ERB. But Julius Caesar didn't rule the Roman Empire. Julius Caesar ruled the Roman Republic. He was the last leader of the Republic. Octavian was the first ruler of the Roman Empire. I will die on this hill.
Sorry, The jaguars of Aztec would beat Zulu warriors. Same premise but more deadly.
Did, no the zulu are still around they live in south africa and sometimes comment on the south african goverments actions Not allways in favor now days tho with more exstreme people getting votes now
Murdered
I either watch these as I get to work and am getting settled or when I get home haha became a routine
I got a song for you to react to :) Best Friend - Yelawolf - if you don't have your jaw on the floor I'll toss ya another 5 :D
I already heard it homie. 😀🔥🔥
Shaka was killed by his brothers so he cant say much in friends killing friends
Caesar definitely won it for me.
And ceaser was a genral loved by his men so wouldnt fight ceasers legion
Nit the dity if rome the entire itay looks pike a boot rome isnt in the southern point of italy
Not a laugh, more of a chuckle.
Dave, I lika your ERB reactions, but please - you are not researching this... you just look it up on the internet and see what people, who read what other people wrote based on facts a whole different group of people did research on.