Shaka Zulu vs. Julius Caesar - A Historian Reacts - Epic Rap Battles of History
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As a few people have pointed out...I'm mixing up my history and HBO's Rome. It was Pompey Magnus' son who embargoed the grain supply to Rome, not Mark Antony. Antony's war with Octavian happened for different reasons. Thanks for the correction! Also...yes, the third member of their triumvirate was Marcus Lepidus.
Can you react to King and General series about Thomas Cochrane, pls?
@@CrossJComic oh nice idea would love seeing that xD
I always appreciate it when people add corrections to their videos in the comments, it adds to their credibility. Could I just suggest pinning the comment to the top? It's something education channels often do to make the corrected information more accessible, even if it's just to a small degree. Love the videos!
I would like to see you react to Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers
Shaka also forbade the growing of wheat after his mom died, so his brothers killed him.
That "grow my wheat for me" line was also a reference to WHY Shakas family killed him.
Short story shorter: Shaka had come to be overburdened with paranoia and started starving his clan (not letting them grow or harvest the badly needed wheat)
and when his family had enough, as ya said, they killed him similar to how Julius was killed.
Both felled by their closest allies.
The wheat thing was less paranoia, and more just going utterly insane with grief after his mother died. Along with the 'no wheat' thing he also ordered a bunch of cows killed, just so their calves would know the pain of losing a mother, and other such insane idiocy.
@@7Seraphem7 didnt he also order that no women give birth under penalty of execution?
@@mrroboshadow you know i love coming down here, i lget to learn so much
Geez, shit talking Casear's end just to cover his own massive failure.
@@beesonbandit6639 if i recall correctly that "no female will give birth" thing also included the animals
So if you were a farmer and your livestock was pregnant well they gonna get executed
I can't believe you missed the part where he says 'ask my kidnappers if i'm just a shit talker'.
Apparently in his younger years he got captured and held for ransom by pirates. He felt insulted by the sum they wanted for him and told them to demand more. He also promised them he would come back and crucify them, which he did soon after :D
Not only that, but he actually made friends with the guys and would spend the time on the ship gambling with them, so they thought the "I'm gonna kill you all" but was just him joking around. And it seems he actually did like them and the crucifying was just on principle, cuase he ordered their throats slit before the pole went up to let their deaths be a bit less painful.
A Xena episode shows that. Caesar is played by Karl Urban in one of his earlier roles
@@artembentsionov wow really? got to check that one out
He also was absolutely irreverent while in captivity, joking with his captors and telling them to quiet down so he could sleep
@@debrickashaw9387 please do, hes my favorite caesar.
The line about outflanking the best was a reference to one of his battles I believe I forget which one but they tried flanking Caesar with a greater force but then he flanked them.
Pharsalus, I believe.
Reverse Uno card
Pharsalus for sure vs Pompey Magnus (Ganeus Pompeius Maguns)
@@RodolfoGaming thanks to you and John for saying it seeing I had forgotten its name.
That’s what happens when you flunked flank.
"Heard you had poison spit, where was it in this Cypher". The Zulu warriors would mix poison in their mouth and spit it at their enemies, blinding/poisoning them. Not sure how they didn't accidently swallow it, but there you go. Also, Iwisa was a club used by the Zulu Warriors.
Also a reference to Ceaser cypher
Theres alot of things your stomach acid would easily handle that your eyeballs would not (and i doubt they had mouths full to bursting, probably just a swig enough to spit at their face)
Damn, didn't know Zulu inspired Japanese Heel Wrestlers.
@@chaoswraithcould also be that swallowing very small amounts while training the technique left them with a high tolerance or immunity. The practice of micro-dosing poisons far precedes anything resembling medical science.
True but...*holds up pilum* how far can you spit sir?
The "trained on thorns" line is a reference to how Shaka Zulu supposedly had his men stomp on thorny branches to toughen the soles on their feet, so that they could be better at the forced marches the Zulu did.
And they'd kill any warrior who couldn't handle the pain.
So what you’re saying is Cleopatra had “incestors”.
I’ll see myself out.
Ok ok that was pretty good.
It was.ok
@@blue_jbots5588 what are you the pun police
@@bronmill33 the punlice
That was way more hilarious than it should have been. ^^ Have a like.
If you don't know it already, you have to look into the story of when Cesar got kidnapped. Long story short, he was not repeat not a s*** talker.
Its one of coolest stories in history.
Was that the incident with the Pirates where he treated his capters like his servants and the came back after being ransomed and killed them all?
@@Rex73777 not only that, he told them as he was captive to them that he would come back and kill them all, they treated it like it was a big joke.
@@danielrichwine2268 If I remember correctly the pirates wanted 20 Talons ransom and Ceaser said pfft you serious? You know who the fuq I am, I'm a Julii! Make it 50!
@@Rex73777 yes, crucified em too, but slit there throats sometime afterwards.
“You can’t outflank the best” is a reference to the Siege of Alesia, when Caesar surrounded and besieged Alesia, Vercingetorix’s stronghold, by building a wall to surround it.
Vercingetorix managed to call for help, and a much larger force was mustered to relieve Alesia. To prevent being outflanked, Caesar quickly had another wall built to keep them out.
In short, Caesar built a wall to keep them in, and built another one to keep them out. A double-reverse siege. And he still won.
wow holy what a gamer move
He copied Alexander's siege within a siege. Caesar built a wall. Alexander drilled his soldiers while surrounded and then suddenly charged uphill into the surrounding enemy. Alexander then did a night river crossing only to cross back and attack when the enemy started doing their own drills. Alexander won the first siege within a siege and did two river crossings in one battle just because they had they audacity to dare drill and compare themselves to his troops.
"If I wanted to shake spears" actually has a double meaning. To William Shakespeare, obviously, but also, the Spear of Mars is said to be one of the holiest of Roman relics. It is said that if the spear vibrates, it is a bad omen; it's said that Caesar saw the spear vibrate the night before his assassination.
The Shaka Zulu episodes of Extra History are very much worth watching.
For some reason, I just can't find myself to like it
They are good
Agreed
@@notzaran5977 you don't have to.
The "Ballista" they showed is actually not a ballista but a Scorpion.
Ballistas were significantly larger.
That’s just a budget issue likely
There is something about the way they filmed the Zulus coming over the hill running at the British in Zulu Dawn that really gave you an insight to what it must have felt like to see all those guys running at you full speed!
Oh shoot.
Ouch, he kinda didn't noticed the "ask my kidnappers if I'm just a s*** talker", which was a huge point for Caesar in this "battle" O.O
I actually love how Ceaser explained how he would destroy hes army.
Caesar is the type of guy to do such thing
Yeah. I mean, it just oozes confidence when you tell your enemy your plan and then stick strictly to said plan.
And that confidence will seriously f*ck with your enemy's head.
Because either you're lying and have another plan, or you stick to your plan and hope the enemy thinks you're lying, or you're so strong that it doesn't matter if they know your plan or not.
It also helped that his 8th legion was made up of terminators…
@@seancascanet3126 You mean the 10th?
Extra History has a series on Shaka and the rise of the Zulu, you should react to that
The Zulu were known for shaking their spears when they approached the enemy as a way of intimidating them. It would make a loud rattling sound. That's why Caesar said if I wanted to shake spears.
South African here! I would love to see more history about the Zulus. Shaka Zulu is a legendary figure but I'm more familiar with the myths than the history. Supposedly he killed his first leopard at 12, he changed the spears, and as you pointed out, he invented the bull tactics. There are a lot of similarities to Genghis Khan: son of a chief who was ostracized, but came back, took his rightful place as chief, and then continued to unite the surrounding tribes. There is some speculation that the major upheaval in Southern Africa early in the 19th century was caused by draught or famine. It's incredible to think that if Shaka never existed, the British and the Boers would not have had much resistance as they traveled inland. Instead they came across an empire of disciplined super warriors. Their cowhide shields were strong enough to stop bullets. No one imagined that people with stone age level weapons would be able to give imperialist super powers trouble.
That being said... facing off against Roman legions who are trained in hand to hand combat and often fought Germanic and Gaul tribes... I think Julius Caesar would probably come out on top.
Romans often struggled to defeat the Germanic tribes so I wouldn't say so. Eventually the Romans gave up trying to conquer Germania especially on the other side of the Black Forest cause crossing the forest was extremely dangerous and was making the Roman soldiers paranoid.
@@bumblebeeyellowdragon Actually they stopped it because of bad leadership and lack of resources
The poison spit @3:42 is a reference to how Zulu warriors would chew various poisonous herbs before a battle. They did this to build up a tolerance to it, but also they would hold this mixture of salvia and poison herbs in their mouth as they went into battle. When they got into spitting range of their opponent they would spit the mixture in the face of their enemies, blinding them. This was meant to give them an opening so they could stab them.
I don't know if this was developed during Shaka time in power, but it definitely saw a lot of use during his reign.
Hey man, I really enjoy your content and your own of my favourite RUclipsrs. Keep up the good work.
My favorite part was when Caesar mentions Shakas reserves, even thought Shaka never mentioned a reserve with his strategy. It really shows how much Caesar studied and thought ahead in his strategies
Any salad can be a Cesar Salad if you stab it enough times.
can i be a hyena cause im gonna laugh
Caesar won just for the bit of explaining exactly how the Legions would wreck the Zulu Bull's Horn formation.
As to more Shaka Zulu stuff..... well looky there, Extra history has a series on him! (Also since you brought up Cleopatra's mess of a family tree, Overly Sarcastic Productions has a really good little video about the Ptolemies)
You didn't mention the reference to Caesar's cipher. Julius Caesar invented a simple cipher for encrypted communication, that was basically shifting each letter in the alphabet by some fixed amount. By modern standards, it's a very easy code to break, but it is taught in introductory cryptography classes.
I don't blame you for not recalling Lepidus on the spot. He never stood out compared to giants like Octavian and Mark Antony.
Comparing the 1st and 2nd Triumvirates, obviously Caesar and Octavian would go together as would Pompey and Antony (even though Antony and Caesar were close allies) and Lepidus and Crassus would match up being the most forgotten members of their respective Triumvirates (to be fair though, Crassus was known as the richest man in Rome in his heyday, being the one bankrolling Caesar while Pompey Magnus protected him from his enemies in the Senate).
I only know Lepidus because he briefly shows up in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, and after he leaves the room Antony and Octavian talk about what a loser he is.
@@JPH1138 not entirely inaccurate, he was Pontifex Maxiumus, the last one of the Republic at least, apart from that he didn't do much and was ganged up on by Antony and Octavian.
This is easily my favorite of all the ERBs for its incredible amounts of at times, really deep cut references that you just wouldn’t catch unless you did extensive research into the subject.
Lol I like how you forgot about Lepidus when talking about the second triumvirate. You’ve played into the meme.
Aw, you missed the kidnapper bit. When Caesar was a young man, he was kidnapped by...pirates I think, basically? They told him what they were going to ask for his ransom and the badass told them that he was worth more and demanded they raised the ransom. They were apparently charmed by him, and when he told them he'd come back and crucify them all, they thought it was a joke and released him when the ransom was paid. He wasn't kidding. When he caught up with them again, he fulfilled his promise and crucified them all.
I beg you to keep watching ERB. Great video as always!
Man Lepidus always gets forgotten and he is quite an interesting dude, just not as smart as Augustus or as strong as Mark Anthony so he got sidelined
please do ARmstrong VS Babe Ruth! Sure, not as historical as, for example, this one... but Babe Ruth has a great part...
Also: Gaius Iulius Caesar won. Handily. :P
This baseball has been passed down the Armstrong family for generations
Ah, the 80's Shaka Zulu mini-series. As a child, I'd be teased by classmates who'd dance around name me chanting, "Shaka, Shaka." All because of my name. 😅 Was tough as a child, but now I look back and laugh. The folly of childhood. 😂
"Doc J Dunk on you like Boom Shakalaka"
Reference to Julius Erving and NBA Jam's 'Boom Shakalaka'
Oh, this is one I've been waiting for! And I can't wait for the reconstruction video!
The formation was called the Chest and Horns. The Zulu placed their older warriors in the center or "chest" and placed the younger, who were faster on the sides or the "horns." This allowed them to move in an autonomous formation and made for a natural flanking formation as well.
I was wondering what the next ERB reaction will be, good choice! Thanks for posting!
FINALLY the ERB reactions are back! =D
I cannot wait for you to get to Vlad The Impaler v Dracula
The film Zulu, gives a good account of how the Zulu warriors operated. They were formidable.
not really massively overated yes they got lucky once but look what happened in every other battle or what the Dutch did to them at Blood River.
Sure but don't use it as your only source; For what it's worth, the ammo supplies weren't that slow and the cover the Zulu used was omitted.
been watching you for a while your reactions are amazing man you make it entertaining and we get to learn about history keep it up man cant wait for the upcoming videos
"You're fucking with the most triumphant third of the Triumvirate" is one of my favorite lines they've ever done. It just makes me happy.
If you want more info on the ottomans I did a whole series on the ottoman Balkan wars of the 14th century And I’m now doing an in-depth dive on the fall of Constantinople on my podcast. Edit: Also did a trilogy on the fall of the Roman republic that we discussed in this video
Shaka implemented a change in the standard weapon of the Zulus, making the spear shorter, if I remember correctly. He also didn’t allow his warriors to get fat. You had to be able to pass a physical fitness test to be and stay in his army.
Overly Sarcastic Productions has a video about the Ptolemy family tree that's worth watching. That family was crazy.
The third member of Octavians triumvirate was Lepidus. He controlled Hispania and a bit of Africa if I recall correctly
Indeed but after the battle of philipi, he controled just africa. Well he try to take Sicily from Octavian but it didn’t go well. And Octavian kick him off from the triumvirate
Good video, and really excited for the upcoming Ottoman Empire stuff! If you want to learn more about the Ottoman Empire, Extra Credits has a really good video series on Suleman the Magnificent, possibly the greatest ruler of the empire ever. I’d definitely recommend it!
Shaka aint got shit on my Julii Boi!!!
The third member of the Second Triumvirate was named Lepidus. He had previously been a general and senator subservient to Caesar, basically being a lesser version of Mark Antony. By the time the second civil war started he had been ousted from the Triumvirate and exiled due to a power struggle between him and Octavian. Don’t know what happened to him after exile.
My man forgot about Lepidus😂😂😂
Dont blame him honestly
@@laughsatchungus1461 yeah, even overly sarcastic made a few jokes about how forgettable Lepidus was in the second triumvirate
I'm not gonna lie, I forgot about Lepidus too. For good reason.
Epic history has a good series on the zulus, that would be Nice to see on your channel 😄
The Battle of Blood River (also the Battle of Ncome River) in 1838 is also very interesting, where the Zulus fought the Voortrekkers. So glad to see some South African History on the channel!
yep, 648 Voortrekkers smashed a Zulu force of 30,000 without losing a single person and only getting 3 people wounded.
u finally reacted to this!!
8:06 You tell events from season 2 of Rome from bbc. But in fact the shortage of grain supplies have nothing to do with Anthony. It was Sextus Pompe (Pompe magnus ‘s son) who made a blocage around the Italian peninsula. His base of operation was Sicily and he was a very good commander when it’s about naval battle.
Now there were bad blood between Octavian and Marc Anthony. In fact to defeat Sextus Pompe Anthony give a fleet to Octavian in exchange of some legion for Anthony’s expedition in Parthia. However Octavian didn’t respect his part of the deal and didn’t send the requested legions. So his expedition in Parthia was a huge failure. And it didn’t improve his relation with Octavian.
And the cause of the conflict between them is "the gibs of Alexandria".
Octavian kinda manipulate the Senate and deformed the real intentions of Mark Anthony so that the Senate can declare war on Egypt (not Mark Anthony) because officially civil war wouldn’t pass well toward the people.
Now in the tv show, when they produced the season 2 , they learned it was the last season so they kinda mixed some things. And skipped many events. So they decided to make Anthony the cause of the shortage of grains supply so that the public will understand easily the conflict between them.
Mark Anthony wasn't stopping grain transports from Egypt (but it's portrayed that way in bbc tv series), grain was send to Italy but it was intercepted by naval blockade set up by Sextus Pompey who after defeat of forces opposing Ceasar in Iberia managed not only to escape, but also to capture and occupy Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica eventually using them as base of operations against second triumvirate.
What started direct conflict between Octavian and Anthony was the latter proclaiming Cesarion rightfull heir of Ceasar
of topic but few of the roman emperors have a descent traced back Cleopatra and Mark Antony.
I mean i know probably no one is gonna read this but I think sabaton cliffs of Gallipoli would be a good reaction since there's going to be a turkey series
I think the cross the Equator is a reference by Shaka to Julius' crossing of the Rubicon river.
Ah i have been waiting for this one!
Interesting thing about Caesar regarding the Triumvirate was that he basically was the reason it was possible, because Pompey and Crassus had a lot of beef. Caesar was able to bridge the gap between them and basically became the de-facto leader because of that
When Shaka Zulu says “trained on thorns” that was a reference to how he forced his warriors to run and dance on thorn bushes and sharp rocks so that they would learn how to ignore pain and be faster on their feet.
You should do an extra history series on Shaka Zulu
Have you read "The Assassination of Julius Caesar" by Michael Parenti? It's obviously very contrarian, but I think Parenti makes a lot of very good points that goes against the normal narrative of Caesar. You know, the idea that Caesars was a power-hungry tyrant and the senators who killed him did it because they loved liberty. It's one of those books that made me stop and completely re-think all of the assumptions I took for granted, which I think is a good thing.
You got a better light and camera between erb reactions?
If you want to know more about Shaka Zulu, Extra Credit has a series on him.
On your stream you said you were going to Louisiana. I was just there! If you go to New Orleans go to the or ORIGINAL Cafe du Monde and get some beignets! It’s right in front of Jackson Square. Also New Orleans also has a very good WW2 museum.
Marcus Lepidus is the third member of the 2nd triumvirate. I find I always mix him up with Labienus in my head (Caesar’s second in command in Gaul).
The part about discipline I think is a bragging by Caesar, a sort of "you brought some discipline to your kingdom, but in the Roman legions we are far more disciplined".
Armchair Historian just came out with a new video about Endseig that is awesome
I believe this "warriors" line is the reference to the famous bottle scene from "The Warriors" movie.
I'm surprised you miss the "Ready, Aim, Steady" ref.
Don't forget the end portion where they reference the battle formations
You should watch the ending of this one, they actually do a cool simulation of a legion vs bull horn attack. Also, one of the reasons that the Zulu were so fast is because supposedly they would have to run through thorn bushes as part of their training. Also, supposedly they would actually spit poison at their enemies, which was one of Ceasers sick burns. And in case no one else mentioned it, the their wheel was Lepidus.
I love the commentary expanding on the history aspect, but is anyone else wishing all the react videos on RUclips didn't get paused every 10-20 seconds? I think it would be more effective if there were 2-3 pauses for truly fire verses, and then come back afterwards to break it down in detail. Might just be me, but I think a reaction video should focus on the reaction first, and the breakdown second.
This is a 1st for me. Amazing. How did you do this??
The "knock off his dome and wrap it up in his own banner" then "send it to rome with a messege from the zulu"
Could be a play on words of how pompei died and had his head sended to rome.
The second triumvirate was Augustus, Marc Antony and lepodus if anyone is wondering
Lepidus
Yes! Thank you.
@@VloggingThroughHistory You're welcome if you want. After Shaka which I liked, I was hoping to discuss Actium a little bit.
Poor Lepidus, everyone neglect and forget about him 😅
@@donrog5035 looks like it.
The "If I wanted to Shake spears, I can waggle my biography' line always bugged me, he should've said
"I don't have to shake spears, I'd write my own biography" which is more accurate and makes him sound more intellectual
There are 7 videos on Theodore Roosevelt trust buster, but 2 of them are private.... Anybody know why?
There are only 5. Not sure why the playlist says 7.
The battle between two different leaders
VTH, can i recommend listening to "The History of Rome" podcast by Mike Duncan? its really interesting to go through. its on spotify and im not sure of other places to find it
More kings and generals reactions
One thing a lot of people miss here as well:
The Roman need for wheat got so great that they essentially clear cut vast swathes of Africa to make room for farmland. The lack of trees led to increased erosion and the Romans are directly responsible for a good portion of the current size of the Sahara Desert.
You missed a pretty important reference: "ask my kidnappers if I'm just a shit talker".
It's a reference to how he was once captured by some pirates, but they grew quite fond of him. He would prepare future speechs and let them judge how good they were, along with playing and reciting poetry to the pirates. When they randsomed him he catched them and crucified them, only to order the soldiers to stab them to death so they would not suffer.
At least that's how I was teached it happened, if I got anything wrong please comment on it.
he also participated in games and recited poetry with them, iirc.
@@undertakernumberone1 thank you I'll just add it.
I love some zulu. Amazing warriors. Rome made beating armies of wars pretty routine for 500 years. Caesar was the cream of those generals and undefeated in many decades of campaigns. To me Caesar was the best general all time.
I give that to Alexander the great. The only reason he didn't conquer the known world is because his soldiers missed home.
@@graphospasm5394 all Alexander needed was time (and not getting potentially poisoned by his own generals)
i can't say how valid it is because i heard this from someone else, but apparently Shaka's mom died on a farm and that's why the Zulu were goat hearding was because of that. so the final line is a little rough
Goddamn excited for Ottoman Empire episodes
The third triumvirate along Octavius and Anthony was Lepidus
The fact that Cesar explains how he'll beat the Horns of the Buffalo tells me he wins
Hey, you should consider looking at Kraut's videos. He makes in-depth history videos about various topics; for example, he just finished a three-part series about the US-Mexico border relations where he explains in depth why Mexico looks the way it does.
Little thing, Augustus was not the same type of emperor as the ones after him, he was a princeps, he had the same powers but his title and presentation differed a bit to create a facade of the republic being still in tact
I like this battle. It works really well as a song, too.
Sad you didn't mention the end when he raps how to beat the bull formation.
Imagine an entire composition playing and singing the beginning and end of Operation Condor or Operation Barbarosa. Ouch
If you like alt history, there's an animated series called the Saga of Tanya the Evil about a girl who fights in a parallel universe ww1
My ERB recommendation, Teddy Roosevelt vs. Churchill.
Link in the description for that one
@@VloggingThroughHistory Oh. Sweet. I must have missed that one.
the main thing to concider is that this is a battle. in rap battles, bars that attack your opponent hit harder and have more weight than bars that boast about yourself. in this case, Zulu didnt attack too much. i mean, look at the first verse for each. zulu boasted about what hes going to do the entire verse, his only attack was to say if caesar came south he was gonna be f*cked (which, honestly, isnt really an attack either). caesar, on the other hand, his first three lines were disses against zulu. those did more damage than zulu's whole first verse. it kinda continues this way throughout the fight.. yes zulu has a few good jabs but over all zulu is basically boasting. so yeah, caesar won and its not as close as it appears
This is the best Epic Rap Battle
Pls react to the ERB Easter Philosophers vs Western Philosophers!!!!
I think you should watch Historia Civilis, really good history channel! :D
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