Walking through Constantinople in 1453 AD. What would you have seen?

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  • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
    @Maiorianus_Sebastian  2 месяца назад +8

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  • @jasonpalacios1363
    @jasonpalacios1363 2 месяца назад +184

    Actually it was a miracle that the ERE lasted as long as it did especially being relevant in the year 1000, the thing is that the ERE lasted so long that it ended exactly 39 years before Christopher Columbus sailed to the Americas, also the fall of Constantinople was the reason why the Spanish Inquisition started, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella threw the last Muslims out of Granada in 1492, The European Colonization came out as a result of this and many refugees from Constantinople left the city to escape Muslim persecution, sailed west to the Italian Peninsula to spread their knowledge there and thus the Renaissance was born.

    • @DavGre
      @DavGre 2 месяца назад +7

      I’d be curious how to square the European response to the 4th crusade against the ERE measures with Europes later response of the Fall of Constantinople. It seems that most of the Europeans kind of pitied the ERE in its final decades.

    • @JayM409
      @JayM409 2 месяца назад +2

      @@DavGre It survived the first, but not the second.

    • @scorpio8963
      @scorpio8963 2 месяца назад

      @@DavGreDifference was population replacement and the genocides of the 20th century.

    • @AlexS-oj8qf
      @AlexS-oj8qf 2 месяца назад +12

      @@ClevelandBrown44Yeah I bet you tell yourself that everyday.

    • @jasonpalacios1363
      @jasonpalacios1363 2 месяца назад +8

      @@ClevelandBrown44 Uh what about the Islamic Turks went into Constantinople?

  • @DavGre
    @DavGre 2 месяца назад +90

    I think after 1204, Constantinople became a shadow of its former self, and fractured further over the centuries into smaller towns/municipalities rather than one big city.

    • @victor382
      @victor382 Месяц назад

      BS. 🙄
      Placing blame on a specific time it’s really disingenuous. There were plenty of times when Constantinople weakened itself before and after that time.

    • @michaelsurratt1864
      @michaelsurratt1864 Месяц назад +7

      @@victor382 yeah but the Venetians literally dismantled the empire sacked the city and stole all its riches you act like it was a tiny Civil War or something. They literally never recovered from it that’s why there’s Roman statues in Venice. They weren’t built there. That’s for sure.

    • @ronb7189
      @ronb7189 Месяц назад +4

      @@victor382 The sack of the city literally destroyed the central Byzantine government, the Nicaea Empire which succeeded later on was one of the multiple factions that sprang up, attempting to legitimize themselves as the true successor of the Empire now that the central administration was gone.
      Imagine the American President, most the Senators and the top brass of the army as well as the White house was destroyed and the local governments in California and New York both independently declared themselves as the continuation of the United States government, all the while Chinese troops continued to occupy key areas in the USA including Washington DC and Boston, do you really think the US would ever fully recover from a crisis like this and become the #1 world power again?

    • @Anton-kf6vd
      @Anton-kf6vd Месяц назад

      True story. Also in 13-15 AD The Empire is more Hellenic than Roman .

    • @michaelhall6340
      @michaelhall6340 10 дней назад

      Humanity is doing that very same thing right now, spiraling down the drain of recycling...

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur4635 2 месяца назад +69

    50k people for a 1453 is still a massive city. Crazy how it would feel emptish or small compared to its infrastructure.

    • @flyingisaac2186
      @flyingisaac2186 2 месяца назад +6

      A portion would be now in Galata, the area granted to the Genoese, and if pilgrims from the rest of the Greek Orthodox world (many monasteries and churches) are counted, it would be temporarily much higher. Papal Rome had a population approximating that, albeit the permanent population was probably lower given the aftermath of the Black Death and its many reoccurrences, plus the long term residence of Popes in Avignon (Papal from 1348 to 1791 and an official residence until 1377, exc the Great Schism's claimants). Seasonal agricultural workers might also have boosted the population.

    • @StonewallSheetr-yo2cb
      @StonewallSheetr-yo2cb 2 месяца назад +6

      Massive? I think not.

  • @bulumacpaul8917
    @bulumacpaul8917 2 месяца назад +84

    Rome started as a collection of villages and ended as a reduced city-state protected by the walls built 1000 years earlier. It refused to die, even as an enclave inside the Ottoman Empire, until the gunpowder revolution..
    Thus ending 2200 years of roman cilvilization..

    • @13141Scott
      @13141Scott 2 месяца назад +11

      Strangely poetic

    • @HansBerger-m3d
      @HansBerger-m3d 2 месяца назад +1

      Rome? Constantinopel!

    • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
      @Maiorianus_Sebastian  2 месяца назад +17

      Indeed, it is a fascinating story. Rome had come, in a sense, full circle, ending where it had started, as a collection of villages, 2200 years after the founding of Rome. An incredible story.

    • @LondonPower
      @LondonPower 2 месяца назад +2

      Nothing to do Rome with Constantinople! For the Greeks of Constantinople the Roman's of middle ages in Italy considered BARBARIANS

    • @HansBerger-m3d
      @HansBerger-m3d 2 месяца назад

      @@LondonPower OMG

  • @LordWyatt
    @LordWyatt 2 месяца назад +17

    Hollywood: *shows Constantinople in a medieval peak in 1453
    Sack of 1204: Am I a joke to you?

  • @ZiggyBoon
    @ZiggyBoon 2 месяца назад +48

    At its peak around the 9th century Constantinople’s population would’ve been about 800,000, and by 1453 had fallen to maybe less than a tenth of that. Today, Istanbul has something like 16 million people. It’s a city with quite a history.

    • @fatihonal6273
      @fatihonal6273 2 месяца назад +4

      Not really, the old city within the city walls has population of about 370.000 today.

    • @michaelfisher7170
      @michaelfisher7170 Месяц назад +3

      true. Istanbul does take the title of most populous city in Europe today. Makes you wonder how Constantine would feel if he could see it for a bit. lol. You did well, Princeps. lol.

    • @kriskris998
      @kriskris998 Месяц назад

      The peak was in 541, and never was more than half million

    • @randomvintagefilm273
      @randomvintagefilm273 Месяц назад +6

      Islam ruined it

    • @esters44
      @esters44 Месяц назад

      ​@@randomvintagefilm273 Ha Haa , Yu stupid jealous moron.Get over it,

  • @ericponce8740
    @ericponce8740 2 месяца назад +101

    The Crusaders in 1204 got the cake [sack of Constantinople], and the Turks got the crumbs in 1453.

    • @Fokas-n8t
      @Fokas-n8t 2 месяца назад +5

      Accurate

    • @tanju_sarı
      @tanju_sarı Месяц назад +5

      the real jewelry is its location...

    • @stanleyrogouski
      @stanleyrogouski Месяц назад +3

      Mehmet II didn't want the gold or the treasures that were there before 1204. He wanted Constantinople and it's geographically strategic site.

    • @mertnecati875
      @mertnecati875 Месяц назад +1

      Lol, capturing a city in such strategic position is priceless.

    • @Fokas-n8t
      @Fokas-n8t Месяц назад

      @@mertnecati875 And what did the Turks do with it? They set an Empire and since day one stuck to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile the Venetians run European affairs, invested in Britain and built western European geopolitics altering the course of humanity. All that was based on the 1204 sack of Constantinople, without which it would not be possible for western Europeans to develop at that fast pace. Turks? They did not amount to much in spite of having the world's best location. That says a lot about them.

  • @sarapechivsarik5314
    @sarapechivsarik5314 2 месяца назад +73

    constantiople was long gone by that time, but interestingly, ther despotate of morea, being an automonous roman province and the center of the greek world at its capital of mystras was thriving, sebestian should talk about the morea, its interesting

    • @AndreaMoletta-s3c
      @AndreaMoletta-s3c Месяц назад +1

      Wasn't Trebizond the real last Outpost?

    • @sarapechivsarik5314
      @sarapechivsarik5314 Месяц назад +2

      @@AndreaMoletta-s3c yeah but morea was the last direct outpost, trabizond was a remenant of the fourth crusade, but it was roman

  • @ggoddkkiller1342
    @ggoddkkiller1342 Месяц назад +32

    As a Turkish person i can confirm this was 100% accurate to our records as well. In Ottoman records the city is literally mentioned as the great ruin, it could never recover from the damage of 4th crusade and fall of Latin empire later on. Ottomans knew the state of city before capturing it and this was why Mehmed offered quite genarous surrender terms twice including no plunder, safe passage etc, because it was a pointless battle but Constantine refused them. And as a custom of those days when the city fell it was allowed to plunder the city for three days.
    The fate of Constantine is also a myth, there is no records in either side which actually prove he died while fighting nor his body could be ever found. So everything is actually possible, perhaps he fled the city and lived until old age. Archeological excavation in Istanbul is nowhere near complete and there are new passages, rooms etc found every year, perhaps one day his remainings will be found in such a room with battle wounds proving the myth.
    Another minor mistake, even Hagia Sophia wasn't in good condition, the building was expanding outwards under heavy weight of its dome and in danger of collapsing. To support the structure from outside Ottoman built both minarets and those extra sections outside so it wasn't entirely for converting. There are also cracks and rebars all around Hagia Sophia sadly which damaged many mosaics too. Because they were plastered they aren't seen, you can find historical Ottoman renovation or modern renovation photos showing cracks. Another sad detail about Hagia Sophia, its golden tiles were intact even in late 19th century and it was looking like a golden palace when you entered it. However Ottoman hired two renown Italian artists to do renovation work in late 19th century and they used a wrong kind of seal on tiles. This seal wasn't breathing so moisture built up behind tiles and within only few years they began falling one after another. This is why Hagia Sophia interior looks rather plain today without its golden tiles. Majority of tiles could be preserved but renovation cost would be very high to put them back so they remain in storage.

    • @mastermindd
      @mastermindd Месяц назад +1

      It's still a miracle that the Hagia Sophia has been standing for as long as it did. Thank you for the insight

    • @history_repeats8201
      @history_repeats8201 Месяц назад +2

      hahaha. The Ottomans had accurate records? This was very funny. The only records they kept is how many slaves and gold was stolen after each sacking of a Christian city

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@history_repeats8201 It looks like you are confusing Ottoman with crusaders! If you need help to refresh your memory i can help you with a huge list of crusader sacked cities including Orthodox, Muslim and even Catholic cities. Yep, crusaders sacked even some Catholic cities, your kind of people really don't learn anything when they read history..

    • @history_repeats8201
      @history_repeats8201 Месяц назад

      @@ggoddkkiller1342 Please dont compare Christians with Turko-jihadis. It is like equating Rome and Paris with the stinky middle east. lol

    • @history_repeats8201
      @history_repeats8201 Месяц назад +1

      @@mastermindd Good thing it was built by Greek and Roman architects, otherwise it will have the same fate as the apartment buildings built in 21st century in SW Turkey

  • @Thermopylae2007
    @Thermopylae2007 2 месяца назад +90

    Interesting video. It reminds me of the last time I drove through Detroit, which still has some impressive buildings, but also some very desolate stretches.

    • @godsowndrunk1118
      @godsowndrunk1118 2 месяца назад +13

      I was thinking about Detroit while watching this, too....

    • @JohnDoe-qv3rf
      @JohnDoe-qv3rf 2 месяца назад +10

      ...the fall of empires

    • @steazymccheesy2649
      @steazymccheesy2649 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@JohnDoe-qv3rf The empire of detroit sounds kinda fun ngl

    • @SantiSomchay
      @SantiSomchay 2 месяца назад +2

      Can you shoot a post apocalyptic movie in Detroit?

    • @Thermopylae2007
      @Thermopylae2007 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SantiSomchay There's certainly stretches where you could do that. It's very sad because many of the older houses were beautifully constructed.

  • @wehosrmthink7510
    @wehosrmthink7510 2 месяца назад +7

    This is so well done . The artist renditions are excellent.

  • @WilliamRP263
    @WilliamRP263 2 месяца назад +52

    It's shocking and counterintuitive to think of Constantinople as more a collection of villages than a unified city, even as late as 1453.

    • @surters
      @surters 2 месяца назад +7

      Made me think of Trantor in Foundation after the fall.

    • @celdur4635
      @celdur4635 2 месяца назад

      @@surters Foundation was based on the ERE

    • @etherospike3936
      @etherospike3936 2 месяца назад +8

      @@surters Asimov inspired his writings from the Roman and Eastern Roman Empires . In Frank Herbert's work the history of Dune /Arakis, was written by Princess Irulan,, in the same manner as Anna Komnene wrote the Alexiad.

    • @surters
      @surters 2 месяца назад +3

      @@etherospike3936 Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

    • @michaelsurratt1864
      @michaelsurratt1864 Месяц назад +3

      Well, you can think the venetians for that before the fourth crusade there was hundreds of thousands of people. that farmland they had was after they tore down all the abandoned buildings that people used to inhabit. They didn’t build those giant walls to protect farmland.

  • @sarantissporidis391
    @sarantissporidis391 2 месяца назад +10

    It is recorded that during the ancient Greek colonization, Vyzas from Megara went to the oracle of Delphi to ask god Apolo which place was suitable to establish a new colony for his people. The oracle had responded that the migrants of Megara should cross the Helespont and found their city in the straits of Bosphorus, exactly opposite to the "city of the blind ones ". Vyzas followed the oracle's advice and when the Megareans got there they saw Chrysopolis at the Asian side, and right opposite a magnificent strategically placed site, most suitable to establish a new thriving and important city. It is written that Vyzas said "only blind men could build a city where Chrysopolis stands and ignore a site as important as the one that lies right across the straits.,"
    I guess the oracle was right.

    • @maryamarantidou8127
      @maryamarantidou8127 23 дня назад

      Κι από αυτόν ονομάστηκε η πόλη που έχτισε Βυζάντιο. ❤

  • @rosskourtis9602
    @rosskourtis9602 2 месяца назад +45

    The Romans had survived so much up till this point that I honestly think that they deserved to survive to today. I hate the 4th Crusade!

    • @johnfisher247
      @johnfisher247 2 месяца назад +8

      The Venetians provided the fleet for the 4th crusade. As part of the deal they asked the troops to take a town on the coast of Dalmatia on the way. The Venetians wanted payment which they pressured the crusaders to provide. They saw how attractive Constantinople was when they arrived and in a cowardly act took the city dividing it into four. They occupied the city for a long period. The Pope oc the time denounced them with excommunication. It was about Venice taking over Constantinople its trading rival.

    • @John-qd5of
      @John-qd5of 2 месяца назад +5

      As far as I know, the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are the only 2 Roman institutions to have survived to this day.

    • @ansibarius4633
      @ansibarius4633 Месяц назад +2

      Infamous as it is, that crusade alone didn't end an empire that would otherwise have been thriving. That the crusaders managed to take the city has a lot to do with the fact that the empire was already collapsing at that point.

    • @rosskourtis9602
      @rosskourtis9602 Месяц назад +2

      @@ansibarius4633 It's true that the empire was facing major issues prior to the sack, but I think their chances of recovery were good. Remember, the empire managed to survive for another two centuries after the sack. It's not difficult to believe that, had the city not been taken, the empire could have recovered to a significant degree from the crisis it was facing.

    • @malgusvitiate7002
      @malgusvitiate7002 Месяц назад +1

      @@rosskourtis9602 I love the 4th Crusade!

  • @MrKiljeaden89
    @MrKiljeaden89 2 месяца назад +59

    1204 - one of the greatest catastrophies of humanity...

    • @spear1504
      @spear1504 2 месяца назад

      And destruction many old art a of Greco Roman works gone. The monuments, 100,000 of manuscripts, statues, mosaic, old column, hippodrome and imperial library of Constantinople. burn, melted and destroyed taking away from western Europe from ever…..

    • @charlesiphone5765
      @charlesiphone5765 2 месяца назад +12

      and then came the saddest day in human history 1453

    • @MrKiljeaden89
      @MrKiljeaden89 2 месяца назад

      @@charlesiphone5765 Bullshit, 1453 holds only symbolic and emotional value, and it was an event in the making way back the day Byzantium became too weak to stop the Turks.

    • @riktrink
      @riktrink 2 месяца назад

      @@charlesiphone5765 we should never let muslim to europe

    • @rb3872
      @rb3872 2 месяца назад +8

      Far from it, Charles. 1204 was far worse for humanity. Just like the sack of Baghdad was in 1258. I think these two events were the worst days for humanity if it the parameter is 'loss of knowledge'. Also the book-burning of 213 BCE in China could be considered amongst them, just like the burning/looting of the Library of Alexandria in or around 640.

  • @CaptainGrimes1
    @CaptainGrimes1 2 месяца назад +52

    Can you do Alexandria or Jerusalem just before the Arab conquests please?

    • @jBread28
      @jBread28 2 месяца назад +13

      Antioch and Carthage too maybe

    • @CaptainGrimes1
      @CaptainGrimes1 2 месяца назад +5

      @@jBread28 Athens and Thessalonica would be interesting too

    • @baha3alshamari152
      @baha3alshamari152 2 месяца назад

      They got conquered by the Sassanids few years before

    • @CaptainGrimes1
      @CaptainGrimes1 2 месяца назад +1

      @@baha3alshamari152 yes they did

  • @j.n.1847
    @j.n.1847 Месяц назад +3

    "So-called fall?" The defence of Constantinople was epic. Even after the walls failed and the emperor died, the citizens were fighting the Ottomans for 3 days, house by house. That was the time when the Ottomans conducted something that would be called a genocide today. Thousands of people were killed, women of any ages and boys were rapped. At the very end, sultan Mehmed figured out it went too far, and ordered attrocities to stop. Sure, the Ottomans rebuit and repopulated the city, as the remaining Roman population was not enough to maintain the city. But in 1453, the New Rome failed and that was the end of the Roman Empire.

  • @mattgraham9515
    @mattgraham9515 Месяц назад +3

    It seems to me that the only functioning part of the city, other than the walls and Blachernae, would have been the Augustaion and the remnants of the Hippodrome. What's very interesting are the drawings of Petrus Gyllius in the 1540s, 90 years after the Fall: its clear that there were still bits of pieces of the ruins left even at that late date - he describes columns still visible in the Augustaion, for instances, and a general awareness of the Cisterns below the Ottoman city. The reality is that clearly after the sack of 1204, the ERE was no longer a player, and the city was never again what it had been. In many ways, the Ottoman takeover was a rejuvenation as the video describes!

  • @jjgreek1
    @jjgreek1 2 месяца назад +65

    This is why we Greek Constantinopolitans say "better the Sultans turban than the Cardinal's cap"

    • @Isphanian
      @Isphanian 2 месяца назад +9

      Well, greeks got what they wanted then, I guess.

    • @cartesian_doubt6230
      @cartesian_doubt6230 2 месяца назад +16

      Greeks don't say that. ONE Greek said that. But history tells a different story. Both before and after the fall of Constantinople, Italy became the primary land of refuge for Byzantine refugees fleeing the Turks. All of the major Byzantine scholars fled to Venice, Florence and Rome. Thousands of Greek entered Venetian service as Stradiot mercenaries.

    • @Pancasilaist8752
      @Pancasilaist8752 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@cartesian_doubt6230he clearly said constantinople greeks.

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 2 месяца назад

      This is what happens when you butcher innocent Latins for making money, then expect to get away with no repercussions. You reap what you sow.

    • @victor382
      @victor382 Месяц назад

      @@Isphanianhaha, mofo is saying it as if that was a chad thing to say, Greek bro, that’s such a loser statement.

  • @jasonkatsenis2670
    @jasonkatsenis2670 2 месяца назад +7

    I was thinking of this topic the last 2 years!

  • @jacasadia
    @jacasadia 2 месяца назад +3

    Great, video! I have never heard anyone offer this take on the Fall. Thought provoking!

  • @rabbitdawg7964
    @rabbitdawg7964 2 месяца назад +7

    Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but this is the first video of yours I've seen where you show your face.
    Cool! You look WAY better than I thought you would.

    • @ZhangK71
      @ZhangK71 Месяц назад

      Lmao usually this would be something someone says as a mean insult but it somehow seems like you actually meant your comment as a compliment without understanding how offensive it is… 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @jeune_turc9404
    @jeune_turc9404 Месяц назад +1

    Nostalgia is a file that removes the rough edges from the good old days

  • @gladyus3731
    @gladyus3731 Месяц назад +4

    When Mehmet the Conqueror conquered Istanbul in 1453, it was far from its former glory. Because the city was sacked and occupied by the Latins from the 4th crusade in 1204. All the important architectural works were stolen or moved to European cities. Although the Byzantine Empire recaptured the city, it no longer had the wealth to beautify it. The Ottoman Empire preserved much of the architecture that remained after the conquest and tried to increase the city's dwindling population. It embarked on a great architectural activity.

  • @alarikski
    @alarikski 2 месяца назад +15

    As usual fantastic delivery of information and entertainment for a Byzantine geek like me

  • @alexanderalexander7404
    @alexanderalexander7404 Месяц назад +2

    First I love your hair- amazing. Second this is a wonderful visual portrayal of the decline and fall of Constantinople. Very well done. I benefited from it.
    Max

  • @Oldsmobile69
    @Oldsmobile69 2 месяца назад +5

    Awesome video yet again!

  • @sebastianmaharg
    @sebastianmaharg 2 месяца назад +31

    Constantinople was broken beyond repair after 1204.

    • @egekurt2733
      @egekurt2733 Месяц назад

      From 1453 it was recreated by the TURKS!!!ISTANBUL!!!Of course with respect to Eastern Rome...

    • @sebastianmaharg
      @sebastianmaharg Месяц назад

      @egekurt2733 it wasn't renamed "Istanbul" until the 1920s.

    • @egekurt2733
      @egekurt2733 Месяц назад +2

      @@sebastianmaharg Partly true, partly false!!!Throughout history, every people called different cities in their own way.Arabs called Constantiniyye, Greeks called Constantinople, Turks called ISTANBUL...Names such as Nova Roma, Islambol were also used...In Ottoman documents, it is called ISTANBUL...With the Republic of Turkey founded by our great leader Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK, the name ISTANBUL has been accepted in international law since 1928...

    • @eskil6096
      @eskil6096 6 дней назад

      @@egekurt2733Correct me if I’m wrong. During the Ottoman times the official name was Constantiniyye ( Ottoman Sultans vieved themselves as the successors of the Roman empire). At the same time the Turkic people who arrived to Anatolia and Trakya called the city Istanbul. Ataturk made the Turkic name in use the official name for the city, correct?

    • @egekurt2733
      @egekurt2733 6 дней назад

      @@eskil6096 In Ottoman state correspondence, it was also referred to as Constantiniyye, but it is also referred to as Istanbul. At that time, it would not be entirely correct to talk about an officiality in today's sense. In international law, it has been referred to as Istanbul since 1928. As a result, since there is no international law in today's sense, each society has named Istanbul according to itself.It was a political maneuver for the Sultans to see themselves as Roman Emperors. After all, millions of Orthodox lived within the borders of the empire.Of course, Byzantine culture was also reflected in the Ottoman Empire.Istanbul was the capital of both empires.We cannot deny this influence.However, it is debatable how accurate it is to call the Ottoman Empire, which is of Turkish-Muslim origin and carries traces of Central Asian and Middle Eastern culture, a continuation of Eastern Rome...I just don't understand this!!!What are you aiming by opening the name of Istanbul for discussion.Istanbul is a TURKISH city.since 1453...Regards...

  • @gregoryPurpura
    @gregoryPurpura 2 месяца назад

    Thanks!

    • @Maiorianus_Sebastian
      @Maiorianus_Sebastian  Месяц назад

      And thank you Sir, for your kind donation, I really appreciate it.

  • @yja496
    @yja496 Месяц назад +1

    Great video! Very informative and objective.

  • @sharadowasdr
    @sharadowasdr 2 месяца назад +4

    I'm more interested in what we would see in a year or so after the city fell, and how it's transformation into Istanbul began. Transformations are fascinating.

  • @lovebaltazar4610
    @lovebaltazar4610 2 месяца назад +6

    Things that they would've considered ruined and abandoned, we today consider to be beautiful..

  • @aligumus420
    @aligumus420 Месяц назад +1

    *WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE HERE 🇹🇷*

  • @Theodoros_Kolokotronis
    @Theodoros_Kolokotronis Месяц назад +1

    One of the most thrilling historical novels, regarding the history and the legacy of Constantinople is “The Dark Angel” (original title Johannes Angelos), of prominent Finnish writer, Mika Waltari.
    Truly epic.

  • @murrayhumphreys3724
    @murrayhumphreys3724 20 дней назад

    The arguments in the Comments section are epic. Love it!

  • @Giga-cat-c6b
    @Giga-cat-c6b 2 месяца назад +14

    Despite the Ottoman conquest, Constantinople was reborn and even grew in size. I think you should also make videos regarding the Ottomans.

    • @DouglasJones-wg6xh
      @DouglasJones-wg6xh Месяц назад +1

      Ottoman sympathizer located

    • @egekurt2733
      @egekurt2733 Месяц назад +3

      @@DouglasJones-wg6xh What's bothering you?

    • @mastermindd
      @mastermindd Месяц назад

      @@DouglasJones-wg6xh He is right tho

  • @tijencan45
    @tijencan45 Месяц назад +1

    Very interesting video. Thanks

  • @CowetaScott
    @CowetaScott 2 месяца назад +6

    I much appreciate your attention to and focus on the transitional eras of civilizations. The piece you did on the visit of Constans to Rome was excellent. What is remarkable about the Byzantine Empire is that it managed to survive for so long. Gibbon was wrong in denigrating it. It was much more dynamic and adaptable than scholars allow. Please continue your fine and well researched work. So much appreciated in this smallish Georgia town.

  • @DOPEdwarf
    @DOPEdwarf 2 месяца назад +23

    Istanbul reached a population of 500,000-700,000 just a century after this all happened

    • @Aeterna71
      @Aeterna71 2 месяца назад +16

      Ironically city being conquered by Turks actually was a very good thing for Greeks living in city because their population and wealth also increased after 1453.

    • @RayshiaRoman
      @RayshiaRoman 2 месяца назад +11

      The Ottomans worked hard to restore Constantinople to be the Queen of Cities again.

    • @capablemachine
      @capablemachine 2 месяца назад +2

      @@RayshiaRoman It was a real garbage dump by the Crimean war.

    • @Kimmerios-l5u
      @Kimmerios-l5u 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Aeterna71 apart the various pogroms against them who costed the lives sometimes of hundreds and sometimes of thousands.

    • @John-qd5of
      @John-qd5of 2 месяца назад +6

      The Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are the two main Roman institutions to have survived till now. The Pope was the senior archbishop in a "first among equals" relationship with the Patriarchs (from the Orthodox viewpoint). From the Catholic viewpoint, only the Pope was supreme. The Catholics survived, and used Latin.
      After the last Christian ceremonies were performed in Hagia Sophia, the people of Constantinople thought the world was coming to an end.
      When the Turks came, they killed, and they enslaved somewhat as the Romans had done before them. After the conquest, Sultan Mehmet II claimed that it was revenge for what the Greeks had done to Troy. Asia was recovering what Greece (and Rome), had taken.
      However, the Turks did not destroy everything. The Sultan wanted to preserve some churches for Christian worship, even Hagia Sophia at first.
      More significantly, he made sure that the Patriarch remained in place. In fact, the Patriarch became an official in the Ottoman bureaucracy! The Turks divided their empire into "milletlar.' A "millet" or milyet, was a people. The Sultan put the Patriarch in charge of the Christian "millet." That is to say that ALL Christians were subject to the Orthodox Patriarch! His worldly authority existed inside the empire, but his spiritual authority stretched further.
      You are correct about the rebirth of the city under the Turks. Mehmet II wanted Constantinople as HIS capital. He invited the Greeks to come back. To this day, there are still some Greek and Armenian churches in Istanbul.

  • @ribkan4759
    @ribkan4759 Месяц назад +2

    7:04 last barh 713 ad
    7:40 the old milion
    8:17 the column of justinian
    11:21 Oval Forum: the forum of constantine

  • @thevisitor1012
    @thevisitor1012 2 месяца назад +25

    Do "if you had walked through the roman bath houses what would you have seen?" next.

    • @DieLuftwaffel
      @DieLuftwaffel 2 месяца назад +1

      Naked people. That's what 😂

    • @BigChap117
      @BigChap117 2 месяца назад +1

      A lotta sausage

  • @RuiOrmonde
    @RuiOrmonde 2 месяца назад +4

    Think I heard the narrator say twice "given price to the elements/ruins" in the sense of "left to the elements" or "fallen into disrepair/ruin". Think the "price" usage is a false friend from the German "preisgeben". Examples of usage: "Das alte Schloss wurde dem Verfall preisgegeben." (The old castle was left to decay.); "Nach dem Sturm gab man das zerstörte Dorf dem Verfall preis." (After the storm, the destroyed village was left to decay.)

  • @keizervanenerc5180
    @keizervanenerc5180 2 месяца назад +8

    Visiting Italy right now. Was in Rome the last couple days, now in Napoli. Was going to visit Pompeï today but all the trains got cancelled right in front of me....
    And the next 2 days while i am still here it's going to be a rainy mess. No Pompeï for me i guess... :(

    • @christopherevans2445
      @christopherevans2445 2 месяца назад +3

      When in Rome...

    • @keizervanenerc5180
      @keizervanenerc5180 2 месяца назад +4

      @@christopherevans2445 somebody should have called Mussolini, he would have made the trains run on time!

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin 2 месяца назад +15

    Rome at this time looked the same way, a city of one million shrunk to one of 35,000, %75 of the area inside it's great walls was open fields, small farms and overgrown ruins. Many of the cities of Europe after the fall of western Rome would've looked much the same at some point, a great many shrank to 1/10th of their land area.
    Nimes and Arles are two fascinating examples of this urban implosion, they shrank down to just a couple thousand people living in their Amphitheaters (they turned them into little fortified villages with old amphitheater walls acting as town walls), I always think about these two towns when ever I look at some map of a huge Roman city and see the amphitheater.

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 2 месяца назад +4

      One thing you can say about urban decay back then: At least when a building fell into ruin you could pull it apart to make a new building.
      New stuff, it's either land fill or getting somebody to break up all the concrete.

  • @abhinavtekumalla
    @abhinavtekumalla 2 месяца назад +4

    Roman empire is eternal. Immortal in our hearts and minds

  • @ribkan4759
    @ribkan4759 Месяц назад +2

    2:01 541 Plague
    3:15 Column of Constantine
    3:54 inagine Hagia Sophia jn 1453
    4:26 many of surrounding buildings were in pretty bad shape

  • @carlosfilho3402
    @carlosfilho3402 2 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations on this video.

  • @djnickbennett
    @djnickbennett 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video. Thank you.

  • @grahamlawlor8361
    @grahamlawlor8361 2 месяца назад +9

    Why was it that when Constantinople fell to the Ottomans in 1453 they came to stay, rebuild, improve and make it their capital, whereas when it fell to the Venetians in 1204 they came to loot, pillage, destroy and leave? Why didn't the Venetians see the same opportunity as the Ottomans?

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 2 месяца назад +2

      I suspect the Ottomans thought of themselves as Romans.

    • @D19DMO128D
      @D19DMO128D 2 месяца назад +3

      @@bruceparr1678 They did not. The Sultan was just a Byzaboo. He loved Graeco-Roman history and wanted to emulate them.

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 2 месяца назад +4

      @@D19DMO128D I think that is what I said.

    • @D19DMO128D
      @D19DMO128D 2 месяца назад

      @@bruceparr1678 "Thought themselves as Romans". You did not

    • @favorius
      @favorius 2 месяца назад +6

      Because we already had Balkans and Anatolia under our rule so Constantinople would be only natural capital while Italians had nothing except a few colonies.

  • @Nova97-k9r
    @Nova97-k9r 2 месяца назад

    So well presented. I really enjoy these

  • @YooKkang
    @YooKkang 2 месяца назад +4

    I’d have seen the garrison force stumbling all over the city trying to mobilize, as fathers, mothers, and even children would armed themselves against the massive Turkish army bombarding the city walls, as Constantine XI gives his last speech to the Roman Empire, with sword, shield, and armor.

  • @TidusVen
    @TidusVen 2 месяца назад +8

    I am happy Contanstinople did not have the same fate as Rome. I like the Turks, particularly Mehmet II, kept as well as they could.

    • @michaelfisher7170
      @michaelfisher7170 Месяц назад +1

      It can be said with some pride that Constantinople and the Byzantines at least went down fighting. No surrender, like Venice chose to do when Napoleon showed up at their doorstep.

  • @UfukCihan-e5m
    @UfukCihan-e5m Месяц назад +1

    50k people in 1453 now 16 million can you imagine how empty and green was istanbul (Constantinople) now you hardly find a tree in there by the way just saw on the map Galata Tower still exist amazing view was 15 euro in 2014 also Ayasofya (Hagia Sofia) and some monuments

  • @gate8475
    @gate8475 Месяц назад +3

    So, im thinking, if Ottomans stayed in their own lane and never conquered the ERE, nothing would have triggered the will to travel further, so maybe the arrival to america would have been delayed? but yes, roman world proved to be very very resilient and long lasting, their concepts so influential that they shaped our western world, definitely its the flagship empire of entire earths history

  • @emreozkaya4279
    @emreozkaya4279 2 месяца назад +11

    The Great Ottomans ruled the world for 600 years

    • @zaranski1889
      @zaranski1889 2 месяца назад +3

      Some dunes and under developed countries in the balkans

    • @nesrintercan1220
      @nesrintercan1220 Месяц назад +1

      @@zaranski1889 Really ? What about Algeria and Egypt ?

    • @zaranski1889
      @zaranski1889 Месяц назад +1

      @@nesrintercan1220 no difference

    • @michaelfisher7170
      @michaelfisher7170 Месяц назад +2

      they ruled a good chunk of it yeah.

  • @tarihbuyut
    @tarihbuyut Месяц назад

    As a resident of Istanbul, i loved it

  • @vHumboldt77
    @vHumboldt77 2 месяца назад +1

    Dude, I must confess that until I saw you, I thought you'd look a bit nerdish, but, wow, you have great looks, much in line with the beauty you describe in your videos. THANK YOU.

  • @rl9802
    @rl9802 4 дня назад

    Breaks my heart to think of the loss.

  • @TerrorFront.
    @TerrorFront. 2 месяца назад +1

    Glad to see Castiel is doing well.

  • @carlosfilho3402
    @carlosfilho3402 2 месяца назад +5

    It is very interesting that Constantinople has three names Istanbul, Constantinople and Byzantium.I prefer Constantinople.
    So much so that during the Ottoman Empire it was mostly called Constantinople.

    • @H_D_G
      @H_D_G 2 месяца назад +5

      The name of Istanbul, Turkey comes from the Medieval Greek phrase eis tin Polin (εἰς τὴν πόλιν), which literally means "to the city". The name was used in colloquial Turkish during the Ottoman rule, and became the official name of the city in 1930.

    • @burakalbayrak7835
      @burakalbayrak7835 Месяц назад

      It seems it was called Konstantiniye in official records but people used Istanbul more in daily life. Another name I really like is Dersaadet (gate of happiness)

  • @synth404
    @synth404 2 месяца назад +2

    Am I crazy or is there a noticeable beeping in the backgroud through a large part of the video?

    • @demirdemirbag3194
      @demirdemirbag3194 2 месяца назад

      Yes, I thought that was my microwave owen. Your comment has put a stop to that thought.

  • @AndreaMoletta-s3c
    @AndreaMoletta-s3c 2 месяца назад +4

    Alboin would have been proud.

  • @KamilUrbanovicz
    @KamilUrbanovicz 2 месяца назад +1

    Where can I get such a great map of Constantinopole?

  • @heyfitzpablum
    @heyfitzpablum Месяц назад +1

    Constantinople never recovered from the sack by the 4th Crusaders in 1204, as well as the endless intrigue of the Royals. The disruption of trade routes by the Seljuks contributed to the economic decline of the Byzantines. The Empire lasted nearly 1000 years, but time caught up with it.

  • @OG-me1nq
    @OG-me1nq 10 дней назад

    i born in Istanbul. Although i am Turk, i feel that i have the same Roman culture. We never been Latins. Culture is about neighbourhood, food, music, daily life. I visit nearly all world but nothing can be compared as culture and daily life in Istanbul and also Athens.

  • @godsowndrunk1118
    @godsowndrunk1118 2 месяца назад +9

    Detroit....

  • @dh2profit
    @dh2profit 2 месяца назад +4

    Were native Americans appreciative of the re-vitalization of North America after the arrival of the English? Same thing.

    • @Not-Ap
      @Not-Ap 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes, but at the same time, these were the same people who inspired the English to conquer the Americas. You could say 1453 was karma if you like, but if the Romans hadn't created an empire, I guarantee someone else would have. The same is true for what happened in North America. That brutality was simply the way of the old world. It still is in certain places actually.

    • @contemporarymale
      @contemporarymale 2 месяца назад

      Revitalized? There was nothing vital in North America before the white man showed up to create a civilization. Just stone aged savages living hand to mouth in the wilderness. They should be thankful frankly.

  • @cank-pm5np
    @cank-pm5np Месяц назад +3

    So good production...Greetings from İstanbul ❤

  • @inregionecaecorum
    @inregionecaecorum 2 месяца назад +3

    So by this time, Rome would have been more impressive, and even London would have had a bigger population.

  • @emj7218
    @emj7218 2 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations for the video! Nature also teaches us that when an organism is already worn out by old age and disease, new organisms begin to proliferate and develop, because the immune system can no longer do anything.

  • @geraldbruce886
    @geraldbruce886 Месяц назад +1

    I think this is what is happening to America and Britain now. That is its in decay but there was obvious evidence of its once former glory

  • @fyhaskamdig
    @fyhaskamdig 2 месяца назад +5

    Great video as always!

  • @serge-partykingtech5923
    @serge-partykingtech5923 2 месяца назад +1

    I think this was a great video with your format because you focus more on things toward the end of the empire. What say that you can’t focus on things for toward the end of both empires? There are plenty of small stories of the near the end of the east empires just like there was for the west.

  • @someoneno-one7672
    @someoneno-one7672 2 месяца назад +5

    Great video. I bet, the civil wars of Palaiologos era and the Black Death contributed to the desolation.
    Today Istanbul is the largest city of Europe by population 😉

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 2 месяца назад +1

      Moscow is the largest city in Europe.

    • @someoneno-one7672
      @someoneno-one7672 2 месяца назад +2

      @@bruceparr1678 Moscow metro area 2024 - 12,712,000, might be over 13,000,000. Istanbul metro area 2024 - 16,047,000.

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 2 месяца назад +1

      @@someoneno-one7672 According to Wiki, Moscow has 21.5 million in its metropolitan area.

    • @someoneno-one7672
      @someoneno-one7672 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bruceparr1678 Ok, that’s might be right. In that case, Istanbul would be the second, following, I assume, by London, Paris and St Petersburg 😁

  • @scorpioferrous7621
    @scorpioferrous7621 Месяц назад

    last sentence was awesome. "1453 was a birth of a new city"

  • @dko6954
    @dko6954 2 месяца назад +1

    This is so cool! Do you have any book recommendations about this topic?

  • @markblocker3310
    @markblocker3310 Месяц назад

    At 15:30 you are correct; the Turks died in vast numbers by the hands of the gallant defenders of Constantinople. In fact, the city would never have fallen if not for three major acts of sabotage undertaken by the "alien" residents of the city. The final act was to open a secret gate (Circus Gate), into which poured 1,000s of Mehemet's heavy infantry. The Semites and Turks were in a big hurry to end the siege because they were terrified more Catholics would be arriving to help defend the city. Equally tragic, the Catholic Empire was planning a new crusade to retake the city 50 years later; but had to cancel the plans due to the catastrophe known as The Reformation.

  • @cenkerginoz2776
    @cenkerginoz2776 2 месяца назад

    Great work

  • @ale_s45
    @ale_s45 2 месяца назад +1

    The quality of the images has improved dramatically. I was wondering if you could specify when something is AI, when is a reconstruction and when is remainings or images of the time lik the map with the Hippodrome

  • @zuzanasmazakova5150
    @zuzanasmazakova5150 2 месяца назад +1

    It all had got going with two crazy sisters and Doukas's tremblings for glory

  • @spunicunifait2697
    @spunicunifait2697 Месяц назад

    Love this! But how did you instruct AI to ensure the imagery is historically accurate? There are several visual references to the Pantheon. St. Peter's in Rome was also about to fall apart around the same time. I would love to meet you at a café in Minga and discuss this and whatnot, really, but I live far away. Subscribed!

  • @askard67
    @askard67 2 месяца назад +5

    100 years after the capture of Constantinople by the Ottomans, the population grew to 500 thousand.

    • @notanemoprog
      @notanemoprog 2 месяца назад

      100 years after the capture of Detroit by the Democrats, the population grew to 500 thousand.

  • @editiongauglitz2028
    @editiongauglitz2028 2 месяца назад +1

    Ich liebe Vortrag, Erzählkunst und Profundität Deiner Videos! S.M. Maioranus hätte Dich sicher wohlwollend bemerkt: "Guter Mann"! Ich mag auch die Illustrationen der Videos - solange sie menschengemacht sind. KI-Bilder in Videos allgemein mag ich gar nicht, da schaudert es mich immer. Ich finde ihre Herstellungsweise auch "unrömisch" 😉 Ich schreibe sehr selten Kommentare, aber dieser war mir ein Anliegen. Bitte weiter so! Viele Grüße Gerd

  • @GeoBBB123
    @GeoBBB123 2 месяца назад +2

    It was a fall Maioranus.

  • @arthurgaboyan7774
    @arthurgaboyan7774 Месяц назад

    Great video. Please also tell the city Ani.

  • @alaahamza62
    @alaahamza62 2 месяца назад

    ,Great! I love human history, it really gives us so much knowledge and so many lessons. None of those empires, since the beginning of history, lasts forever. It’s like a line that rises to a peak of glory, then starts to decline until it vanishes and is replaced by another power, and the cycle continues. What matters is what each of those empires leaves behind for those who come after,whether it's knowledge, culture, resources, or damage to humanity as a whole, i like your hair style btw ..

  • @LeoniYUG
    @LeoniYUG 2 месяца назад

    Maiorianus, could you make a video about the Roman postal service? It would be great if you go for an excursus during many centuries…

  • @onurtosyal8164
    @onurtosyal8164 2 месяца назад

    what is the tool used to create the images please?

  • @gabrieldossantos9982
    @gabrieldossantos9982 Месяц назад +1

    Does anyone know why the Muslim Turks took over the city of Constantinople? The Greeks still cry today, they felt the same spiritual pain that the Jews felt when they lost their land. It's a good thing the Greeks They had Hellas, and they almost lost Hellas too.

  • @Steve-bw9bs
    @Steve-bw9bs Месяц назад

    Good use of graphics.

  • @wfp9378
    @wfp9378 2 месяца назад +2

    Was there recently and felt sad it had been invaded and fell. After watching this…. I am kind of glad the decrepit crumbling shambles was destroyed.

  • @simonestreeter1518
    @simonestreeter1518 12 дней назад

    I guess I need to update my browser. This video buffered every minute or two. They must have added some more stuff.

  • @daniels7907
    @daniels7907 2 месяца назад +11

    Some snooty academics like to insist that the European Middle Ages weren't really that bad because they had religion and culture. Yeah, tribal peoples have religion and culture too. That's pretty universal among humans. But, when you look at the state of urban collapse, the lack of civic infrastructure (maintenance or new development), endlessly changing rulership, the lack of literacy (even when it came to their own religions' scriptures), and the precariousness of life in general - it was an *awful* time to be alive if you weren't in the ruling class (and often even then).

  • @arzuozcan7039
    @arzuozcan7039 Месяц назад +1

    You mean Istanbul😊

  • @kriskris998
    @kriskris998 Месяц назад

    It will be nice if you make video about the siege of Constantinople in 1203/04

  • @Not-Ap
    @Not-Ap 2 месяца назад +2

    It was a fall in that it was last vestiges of any kind official roman state. No matter how different governments try claim themselves Roman it was doesn't make them so. Not the Ostrogoths, not the Franks, not the Swabians, not the Brittons, not the Anglo Saxons, and definitely not the Turks. Rulling over the a ethnic or cultural demographic that formerly constituted the ruling class does not make you one of them. Nobody but a Aztec, Han, or Yamato could claim to be the ruler of one of their Empires. Especially when they don't even follow the same religion, culture, or even speak the same language. To go around claiming these things as some of these groups did is laughable at best and absurd at the most.

    • @AndreaMoletta-s3c
      @AndreaMoletta-s3c Месяц назад

      The last vestiges were destroyed after the fall of Trebizond.

  • @davidh7088
    @davidh7088 17 дней назад

    @majorianus have you listened to The History Of Byzantium podcast? I think you'd love it 😊

  • @andrewberrocal2281
    @andrewberrocal2281 Месяц назад

    People imagine something like Milan or Paris being burned when it was more like New York in the 70s getting over runed by Russia

  • @RT-mn2pb
    @RT-mn2pb Месяц назад

    Thanks