I would like to add that there are adults who are not disabled who couldn't handle gambling, smoking, or drinking. So while some disabled adults can participate just fine, others may not just like every other adult. There's definitely some extra considerations like the ones pointed out in this video. Love the content bc I learn new things ❤
I have asd and ended up experiencing pretty serious drug addiction (better now though :), clean for 6ish years !) I think there are a lot of things about the asd experience that can make drugs particularly appealing; relief of anxiety, it's novel behavior driven by curiousity, it's repetitive and obsessive, extremely stimulating etc etc. Im not saying people with asd can't be allowed to make their own mistakes, just that we should maybe be careful exposing our friends/family to certain things and to be aware that having asd doesn't mean you're going to be straight edge 📏 :)
Interestingly, SUD (substance use disorders) and addictions are considered to be disabilities and depending on what we are talking about it can be 50-70% genetics.
@@meccanomanI agree with this. LEGALLY it’s a disability, but legally so is ADHD and nobody thinks of that as a disability. To me, autism is equal to ADHD in terms of brain alteration. More of a spectrum of severity of course, but generally unless paired with other things it isn’t fully disabling.
@ellespoonies It is though, it's so disabling at times. I used to think like you, and think that it was society's fault we struggle. But while society certainly doesn't help, autism alone makes life very difficult. There are times I can't feed myself, times I can't bathe myself due to the sensory overwhelm, times I can't do what I need to do to function as an adult. For example getting a job, all of the things that go into doing and maintaining a job are so hard for me. Social cues are so fucking difficult, so keeping friends has been impossible my whole life. I know from experience you are coming from a good place, that us autistic people aren't really that different from allistics. But sometimes, we are. I learned the beliefs you hold from very low support needs autistic, people who felt insulted to be considered disabled because of a disorder they don't feel is really harming their lives. And I'm glad those people are doing well for themselves, but autism, in and of itself, disrupts our lives. I personally, because I have good communication skills, would be regarded as 'high functioning'. And the truth is that im really not. If it weren't for the people in my life, helping me through what I deal with, nothing, and I mean nothing, would be able to get done for me. All in all, a disability is anything that impairs your life, and your ability to do the things you need to do to thrive, and autism very much does that. I wonder, and zero shade towards you, but i wonder if the mindset that autism isn't a disability as a whole stems from internalized ableism, that, maybe people who think that hate the idea that something they have can be a disability? And I mean, logically that would make sense, when society as a whole tells us that we HAVE to be functional, that we HAVE to be "normal". My view points on this only began to shift when I switched from interacting only with those low support needs autistics in forums, and began speaking with and listening to those with higher support needs as well. It made me realize that I do in fact struggle, badly, and am in a constant state of fighting to be seen by people around me as "normal". I use normal in quotes, as I'm referring to what society expects us to be like. I'm sorry for such a long text, I promise im not attempting to come at you or insinuate you're a bad person for holding a different opinion than me. I just wanted to put my two cents out there and explain why I believe autism is certainly a disability.
Reminds me of a thing I saw the other day about the father of someone who came out as trans lovingly shouting, “His pronouns are she/her!” At anyone who gives them trouble. Are they all the way there? No, but they certainly have the spirit 😂❤
Yes! So often now people get bashed for simply being curious, not knowing, wanting to learn. Sadly, many people label not knowing something as hate and discretion. That reaction only discourages people from asking questions or learning. As a physically disabled person I have never found it hateful for someone to ask questions and want to learn. If it is something too personal or invasive or that i legally cannot tell them, like prescription fentanyl, then I politely decline to answer. As long as you are polite and willing to accept it if someone doesn't want to share certain things then I don't see a problem with asking a disabled person or caretaker about how they do things or what they do or don't do with their disabilities. Just don't act like you know better and lecture them about how you think they should be doing something or bitch about paying them because you pay taxes and assume they get disability. I know some disabled people who don't feel comfortable sharing anything, but I also know many who love sharing and educating anyone interesting about their life with their disabilities. Again, I think the most important thing is that people are respectful about asking questions, don't angrily demand personal medical information or act like someone needs to prove that they really are disabled to you, or completely ignore the disabled person and speak about them to other people as though they are an inanimate object.
I work at a local bar and my absolute favorite patron is a man named Clyde. Clyde is a 60 yr old man with Down syndrome, He doesn’t drink alcohol but we keep Diet Coke in a bottle just for him. He often talks to me about how people give him a hard time for hanging with drunkies as he says but he love everyone and everyone loves him. Saturday night would not be the same without him. He is our running champion in trivia! He may not be considered to make sound decisions but honestly he’s one of the most responsible customers I’ve delt with he is the best.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 when I was a kid I used to ride a horse with my mom to a little convenience store and she would get “boogity” the horse a Budweiser in the can. He would shotgun it!😂 Horses love beer! Not soda. Lmfao.
I think this ties into the concept of the dignity of risk. Non-disabled adults are allowed to engage in activities that involve risk - disabled adults should also have that right. There is plenty of nuance here and every person is different, but just because there is a risk inherent in an activity, doesn’t mean it should automatically be off-limits, even if someone did have a legal guardian.
Oh, I've never heard the phrase "the dignity of risk"! That's something I think most of us take for granted as adults - it's nice to have something to call it.
This is very true. As a physically disabled adult I have often chafed at the fact where other adults my own age are allowed and encouraged to take risks at their own discretion there is a massive tendency to try and not allow me to do the same. I am physically disabled and have low support needs autism and that does make me inherently more vunerable in certain situations. However I am compos mentis and perfectly capable of assessing risk myself and choosing whether or not to engage that risk. I remember when I was 19 just before the pandemic at an age where a lot of people are moving away to university and living on their own, on my way out to the shops alone and a friend of my mum asking her if I should really be going out alone. She had just been talking to me and having a normal conversation, she knew I was mentally competent and an adult and yet still in that moment not only did she question if me doing things alone was OK which I could understand given my physical needs she decided that my mother was my keeper and the one who would be deciding if it was safe. Not me the person she was currently having a conversation with. I'm very grateful to have a mother who laughed at the idea I shouldnt be allowed out alone and said of course she is, she can call if she needs me. I will always need physical care because of my physical disability and if you take away my ability to make these decisions for myself you are reducing me to the level of a child. Coddled and cosseted, not allowed to live in the real world.
I think it depends on whether or not the person is capable of understanding the risks involved... Me and my little brother are both autistic... I've used hard drugs, smoke weed regularly and take sometimes take risks in life but I do so knowing full well what the consequences may be... My brother however does not fully understand things like that... My parents, who are still his guardians as a 26 year old, let him pretty much do whatever he wants and in several cases it has made things difficult for him and put him and others in dangerous situations
I heartily agree with you. As a separate but related discussion, it's also good for Autistic folks to be aware that we are at higher risk for addiction than the "average" person. So if you're a consenting adult then by all means, go participate in adult activities that you want to participate in. But just be a little extra cautious and stay aware of your relationship with anything addictive or habit forming.
To be clear: this isn't meant to be a reaction to the specific circumstances of you going to the race track and gambling! I just meant it as a general caution to other autistic folks thinking about gambling, drinking, or doing anything else that can be addictive.
I was going to say the same thing! I know that since I have ADHD, I'm a lot more vulnerable to addiction. I've even had some close calls with addiction to apps/social media. So I always try to either stay away from addictive things or be extremely cautious around them. Like I will never, ever, ever try a vape or cigarette, but I'm open to having alcohol sparingly in social situations.
@@alik9783ya I think that is probably a good thing kuz out of everything I’ve tried the only thing I got hooked on was nicotine (not counting common addictive substances like soda but I have soda issues too). It really sucks because nicotine blocks sugar processing receptors and can lead to health issues like diabetes due to the body not breaking down the sugar consumed. Lucky for me diet changes helped me get out of the red zone of being pre diabetic so I have time to sort out my issues and find something healthier to fixate on instead of vaping all the time. Addiction is difficult with autism and anxiety but if you ever find yourself struggling with something like that I’ll be right here to try to support you and anyone else who needs it now or in the future ❤
Plus there are plenty of people without learning disabilities who are prone to gambling addictions or drinking addiction. I think it all comes down to taking advice from people who care about you when it’s constructive and also keeping yourself accountable while keeping in mind your family’s health history❤
As a mom who didn't know much about autism and now has a young autistic child I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into each one. You've taught me so much!
As a fellow autistic person I have found that although I am perfectly capable of understanding the ins and outs of gambling and making an educated decision on how and when to do so, I have also been gifted with the knowledge that it’s a waste of time and money, so I choose not to 😂
yeah as an equestrian, it's honestly so disgusting to me. someone who veiws their horse as a tool to make money and ride on and nothing more isn't an equestrian, just a gross monster
I 100% agree. what is terrible is that so many people don't realize that so many equine sports are just abuse. And there could be some people out there that don't abuse horses for racing but the majority of them are abused.
The battery in your phone/laptop that you used to post this comment is filled with lithium which is mined by children under conditions that essentially amount to slavery. So you yourself are perpetuating slavery/child-abuse. You tried to virtue signal but in reality you just proved how much of a hypocrite you are.
Thank you for reminding people that capacity is a spectrum. Lots of people don't realize that those with intellectual disabilities aren't overgrown children.
@-.OurChampionWorld.-it is: it is ALL bad, and if even for the sake of argument some equines didn’t have horrific lives it still wouldn’t justify this. I live by the kill lot. You are ignorant
@-.OurChampionWorld.- um I have a ex race horse I think your just the problem here like ik you probably have horse and everything but your probably not to ethical
@-.OurChampionWorld.- lmfao you’re delusional. Do you even know how many deaths this race track had last year? Breeding horses keeps kill lots full, racing is a blood sport
For me, we knew it would never be appropriate for me to gamble cause of my choices of games at an arcade. Also I feel like those closest to me should be more suspicious when my friends take me to parties tho. I drank and I liked it too much. Now I’ll sneak alcohol whenever I can. I’m a bit of a menace in that respect but I’m not an angry or horrible drunk. I just like how it makes sensory things not so bad.
So not a menace I just used that word wrongly. I just know it’s a problem that it can progress if I don’t look into help I just feel like I’m not worth it. I’ll be difficult either way. 🫤
@@Electraa. hahaha but this can be highly addictive too. I’m addicted to weed for a few years now. I don’t drink Alkohol anymore but wouldn’t say smoking is less dangerous when it comes to the risk of getting addicted to a substance.
I love seeing how other autistic adults do things …. I’m 18 diagnosed last week and still processing it to be honest, for me I find these things very black and white: smoking, drinking, gambling etc. people have told me in the past or in childhood that they are ‘wrong’ or ‘dangerous’ in some way and so I won’t touch them at all. Not sure if anyone else thinks this way but just interesting to see other perspectives.
Unfortunately, those sorts of things are complicated. Here's how I tend to categorize these issues! Smoking cannot really be done responsibly (for me at least) since it can cause lung damage. Even just smoking pot can irritate your lungs as they're not built for it. So, I put it in the dangerous corner as damaging myself is not worth whatever effects the inhalant may give me. Anyone who self-medicates with marijuana can do so in a safer manner with edibles. Alcohol depends mostly on the person and how it affects them. You also have to be careful who you do it with and where. A single drink can relax you, but it can also make processing difficult. It does for me. So, I only drink a minimal amount of alcohol at home and stop when I no longer feel comfortable with the affects. Drinking slowly over the course of an hour, eating food with the drink, and drinking water to stay hydrated can keep your head on straight! Gambling is inherently risky and mostly has to do with how much money you're willing to lose. Some people toss in pocket change that won't really affect them and others throw away their lives trying to win it. I suggest avoiding gambling since it's system can often be rigged (depends on what you're gambling on and the game itself). If you choose to do so, don't use an amount of money that would financially put you in trouble. Only use an amount that you can comfortably afford to lose since there's a large change you will. Hope my thought processes help!
Autistic or not, a lot of young adults have that mindset coming out of high school and into the real world. Once you get some real life experience of your own, you'll be able to make decisions for yourself on whether or not you want to participate in these activities, not just going along with whatever other people told you in the past. I used to say I'd never get drunk or high, but now as a 31 year old, I love drugs and can incorporate them into my life in healthy, non-destructive ways. My parents will never understand it though 😂
Ooh I’m 27 and trying to get my diagnosis now. I’m super nervous. I look at things not as right and wrong. Right and wrong are subjective, factual effects are not. Consider the factual risks and benefits of doing these things and know for a lot of things there’s a line we’re the good thing becomes a bad thing. You can find that line by seeing cause and effect of the action on yourself and others. It’s a evidence based process for me, hope it helps give some insight on managing black and white thinking
This is accurate, as an autistic adult I learned my own limitations in regards to adult pastimes before moving out for college, it's something that responsible parents will help their own children figure out, not just for people with disabilities
Not meaningless. A spectrum. I know an autistic person who have very severe sensory issues due to her autism, much worse than anyone else I've seen. Thats makes it different but also still in the criteria for autism. Autistic people can have different levels and severity of symptoms because its a spectrum, but that doesn't mean the diagnosis is meaningless at all. Did you know not all downsyndrome people have the very specific facial symptom? Did you know that ADHD people have a large spectrum of symptoms and severity levels? Just because someone presents differently doesn't mean they don't have something is what im saying. I hope this helped :)
@@ginnys.matthias1818 The whole "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism" trope is meaningless. There quite obviously have to be common traits in order for there to be a diagnosis. There may be additional factors and severity which create unique characteristics, but if everyone is different then there is no definition of autism.
@@ginnys.matthias1818 no, it further solidifies that autism means nothing. The spectrum is SO broad that it encompasses every single possible human behavior , trait and characteristic. There's nothing that isn't autism at this point. And how dare you compare the never ending sliding scale of of the trendy autism diagnosis, to an actual testable tangible quantifiable chromosomal abnormality , down syndrome. The only people who would NOT have the full facial and physical characteristics are those with mosaicism. Where only a portion of their cells carry the trisomy. You can see it and test for it. Because the chromosomes are affected. And that is extraordinarily rare. Autism isn't anything anymore. You can't even test for it . Everyone has it. It's meaningless.
Ok um you can tell those horses are around 2 or 3 years old and there bones are still developing and horse racing is abuse some racers drug there horses for them to go faster and I ride horses and I dont support horse racing so um ya those poor horses
ok up you are very misinformed, you know you can't tell a horses age just by looking at them, and you don't race 2-3 year olds on the big tracks like this, these kinds of tracks aren't for green horses so their age range is probably more 5-8 simply because these are bigger races and you want a horse more experienced, the two to 3 year olds are done at the virgin races which aren't common on the bigger tracks, and it's also way less common to start a horse that young, more and more trainers are waiting until 3-4 when the bones have fused, it's more economically favorable since you don't break them before they've won you anything and it's less cruel also drugging is illegal and very well regulated, and there is sever punishment to people who do drug, also the drugging doesn't make them "go faster" if people drug it's usually bute which is a pain killer and they force the horse to run on an injury (which is more cruel then what you were saying, but I'm just proving a point that you don't actually know what you are talking about) most of the information you stated is dated or plain misinformation, horse racing while it still has a lot of problems has fixed a lot of its problems, the problems now come from the fact that it sends a lot of horses to kill pens, and the training is still really hard on their bodies, but more so for their heart and lungs rather then their legs but like all sports there is a right and wrong way to do it (coming from an eventer who loves her OTTBs by the way)
I had a student get into a gacha game, its gambling but you dont get money from it if you win, just characters for the game. I just was able to share information that made it to their family. I wasnt going to tell the student they cannot play it, but I wanted to make sure someone who would be able to support them consistently knew what the risks are and how easily you can slip down that rabbit hole (i know i can if I'm not careful)
I hate the fact that if I'd jump around the way you walk, I'd be called childish. When in truth it's me having to suppress it to make everyone feel like I'm an adult like them. No one ever cared to ask "why" instead they all said "no" or "not now" or "time to act like an adult".
Mostly posting to say, yeah, samesies. I may be autistic, but I still have the cognitive ability to live on my own, take care of myself, and take care of my (also autistic) son. And to make my own choices regarding vices - I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t gamble often (I don’t trust myself to do so responsibly, without the help of my wife, my parents, or my siblings). I think it’s very cool that you got to learn how to gamble with your dad - also, horses. 🎉 Sasha
I have Asperger's syndrome and as long as I have someone with me I can do mostly the same things as most other people. I just need someone to make sure my decisions are not dangerous and explain stuff in a way I that makes sense to me as I struggle to understand certain things.
As someone who was diagnosed with Asperger's as a young child, I relate to this on so many levels. I can't even make a phone call by myself unless I have "backup" 😂
I went into hospital recently + the communication book had "smoke" as one of the options. I was so grateful to be given the opportunity to engage in an adult behaviour that calms me down + provides a sense of familiarity + routine (rolling then smoking). Often it's overlooked that adults with reduced communicative ability may want these things
@@ChelseaLipford-jx1jl yes all races horses are abused. Surprise I also work with race horses! I’m a large animal rvt. They are often and frequently sent to the kill lot! If race horsing wasn’t abuse there wouldn’t be underfunded sanctuaries they are sent to because alllll the people profiting off them would take care of them - forever! But they don’t, and so there are. Do you know how many horses died at Saratoga last year? Horse racing is a blood sport. YOU are the uneducated one
@-.OurChampionWorld.-it’s true that a lot of racing is fine- but we cannot forget the facts. I feel like Saratoga is doing so much better now, but in the past 14 years 200 horses have died on the track. It’s very sad, and although I’d say all of the Jockeys are amazing and good, the trainers not so much. There have been reported incidents of drugging and abuse from many trainers. Although there were many trainers caught, there could very well be many more using such ways that are being overlooked. Please just make sure you know who you o support while betting in the horses❤
@-.OurChampionWorld.- The horses are whipped. Maybe not in this video, but during races, jockeys whip them to make the horses run faster. Horses have thinner skin as well as more nerve endings. If it hurts you to be full force whipped, imagine how that feels to a horse when they are whipped non-stop throughout a race. Do not defend obvious abuse. No horse should be whipped and there is no excuse whatsoever. If you even try to defend it, you are an abuser. Simple as that.
I never had much structure as a kid so I was exposed to a lot of bad stuff. The only thing I have "trouble" with is Nicotine and Painkillers. Born in the 80s and both parents smoked, mom even smoked during the first trimester. So me smoking tobacco was pretty much on par. I was in constant 24/7 pain from 13-30, I got hooked on Norco during my 3rd round of kidney stones and was using very heavily for about 10 years. Then at 30 self diagnosed myself as autistic, not bipolar. Stop all pills, then after my system was flushed of all the pills. I started controlled meditation with THC, 2 years later I get my official diagnoses of Autism plus discover my constant persist pain is a gluten intolerance. I'm 38 now and never better, I am the husband my wife saw I could be and my kids have a true father now.
As an adult with ADHD, I have to monitor myself when it comes to activities like drinking or gambling. Because of my low dopamine levels, I know it could be far too easy for me to become addicted to these activities because of the dopamine rush they could provide. My ADHD also makes me extremely impulsive so I need to prepare before doing stuff like this to make sure I don't make poor decisions in the moment. I know I like to gamble, so when I go to the casino I bring only cash and leave my card at home. That cash is what I'm allowed to spend. If I run out, I'm done. I also bring a buffer with me (a friend or family member) who can pull me out of a game if I'm doing really well or really poorly to keep me from getting stuck in an endless dopamine loop. Just because we have disabilities doesn't mean we aren't able to make responsible decisions. We just have to be cognisant of how those disabilities affect us and what we need to do in order to still make smart choices.
Nobody said they were, the horses in those races are more akin to the athlete and the jockey is a coach. Seeing as the winner is (insert horses name here) not saying its a good sport but your analogy sucks
It also should raise the question should you have children. If you can't handle these things, how can you handle a child and teach them how to handle these things? So many people who can't handle drinking smoking gambling a mix of anything of these and they have kids and don't raise these kids correctly and harmfully and it just continues the cycle. So maybe we shouldn't ask if disabled people but people in general everyone if we should do this and we should have tests and screening conversations about this because this is important and I love you. You're an amazing creator. You help me learn about me and the questions we should be asking
As a parent of a child with cognitive disabilities (she is not autistic but actually attends a school for autism) this really ... hots home for me. One thing we do as parents is take what her future maybe one year at a time. I try to plan for the worst and hope for the best. And every year as she gets older and gains more skills the more that hope seems likely, but I do still keep in mind that she may not bebable to live completely independently when she is an adult and I need to know what resources are available to best fit her when she is older. So I give kudos to your father for helping to guide this experience, and not shying from it.
Even tho I am an adult my dad help me navigate the adult world, and I don’t make any decisions without him, just because there’s a lot of things I don’t understand or know the workings of and he helps me understand all that. And sometimes things get to much where I get in to a mental state where I can’t make any legal decisions, and he is there to help especially in those situations I am extremely great full of my Dad and what he does for me
I just want to thank you for sharing how you cope and how life is through your eyes. My boyfriend is Autistic and this is helping me learn more on how he sees the world and how he processes things. (Well close to how he deals cuz everyone one the spectrum is different)
My farther also loved to go to the casino occasionally. But he made it a special day and did it responsibly. When I turned 18, wen went together and he introduced me, along with all his responsibility advice. 😊 Later, I found out we are both autistic.
everyone deserves as much autonomy as they're capable of. I'm my uncle's guardian and he can't do much for himself but he can still gamble and he loves it 😂
You are so lucky to have a family that loves you and chooses to stay in your life. I am autistic and I can tell you that many families shun us and never speak to us and that leads to all kinds of horrible things happening far worse that exposure to horse gambling.
I have ADHD and in retrospect I find it very bad to have been exposed to any addictive behaviour by my parents when I was younger, I am still fighting a videogame addiction and am lucky that I learned from it to categorically exclude gambling and substances from my life and build a large safe radius around me for these financially damaging things so I'd say it depends a lot on own experiences, for example I would handle any potential children similar in that I would not let them near addictive stuff before they are 16/17 and forbid them from using it until they are 18
I think just like everybody else that we should all in some way be introduced to these things in a healthy way so they don't become bad habits. This stuff exists, and we're likely to come across it at some point, so rather than coming across it in our own time and potentially having a bad fixation on it, being able to approach it with someone trusted like a parent is a great way to experience the world without developing unhealthy habits or a rebellious attitude from having to sneak around it. And as long as you continue making good choices and leading a positive lifestyle, I see no reason for anyone to interfere, neurodivergent or not.
For me I try to stay away from these things :D Im autsistc (low support need) and I have a hard time casually smoking, drinking, or gambling, I get addicted to that shit instantly!
My younger friend who's autistic (I'm also autistic) grew up much more sheltered than i did. She recently moved in with me and there were plenty of situations where my husband and I were drinking or we had a few friends over qnd we were drinking. I obviously offered her a drink and she was kind of surprised I did. My parents did the same when she came to their house with me for a holiday. I told her she was an adult of legal drinking age, the responsibility for her drinking falls on her. I had a conversation about the way that i drink alcohol with her before she was even old enough to drink in caee she was ever at a party some time because you know that stuff realistically happens. Especially now that she's old enough to drink I explained about alcohol volume so she could tell how strong a drink was, and how that effects the taste. She doesn't really like the burny taste and neither do I. I let her try a some of what I'm having and if she likes it I'd get her a glass. I let her know that you can't drink alcohol as fast as you do typical drinks because you'll get drunk really fast and they're not exactly hydrating. And if she wanted to avoid getting too intoxicated or hungover then spacing drinks out, making sure you eat and drinking some water are all great practices. She's never had more than one or two glasses of something, she's still experimenting with what she likes but she's already more responsible with alcohol than a lot of other people I've met. But if she did want to take it farther than that, that would also be her choice. She's an adult and risk is part of that
Super appreciate this question and the response. Sometimes when people ask 'ignorant' questions it's because they know they are ignorant on the particular topic and are seeking to learn.
Aw you can see how sweet those horses are ❤️❤️ I absolutely adore horses, and have one of my own! I also volunteer at an organisation called Special Equestrians, and they provide therapeutic riding for all ages. I’ve worked with the sweetest little girl who is non-speaking and a kind 47 year old man who wants to ride in the Paralympics!! It’s so much fun and I love all the people (and animals) there 🥰
Yeah, think of what happens to all those beautiful horses once they can't perform for their owners. They're literally sold by the pound at meat auctions, except for the few that are saved by nonprofits.
Lol, my great grandfather was a gambling addict. The issue is not to expose but to teach in a safe environment. Better the individual learn that you loose big, and sometimes recoup what you previously lost, with budgeted money and someone who has experience in what is the enjoyable part (socializing, excitement at a close call...) than on their own and making the mistakes. My uncle was taught to gamble, so because he knows what the gambling rush is, when he does it he only has on him the money he plans to gamble and his wife to tell him it's time to go. No credit card, no expensive object, just the cash. He's doing well.
As a support worker it’s all about the persons capacity and once you get to know a person it becomes easier to gauge what’s best for them and how much to support or not support them with certain decisions:). as an adher there’s time where I’m more in control of myself in these situations and times where I have to manage my exposure or the way I engage with the situations I put myself in. Also side note that a persons capacity can change through out their lives and can fluctuate regularly within their normal lives depending on various different factors and situations
I got fired from being a buddy to ID adults because my buddy wanted to go to the pub, and I went along with him. It was freshers week in a university town, he was over-age, pub had an afternoon music session... we drank lemonade and talked to girls and danced a bit, and generally had a great time doing *what every other young person in the city was doing*. But his parents complained he wasn't mature enough to decide what he wanted. It was so frustrating.
This reminds me of how lucky I am now. My parents never really encouraged any behaviors for me but when i got to college i just linda stumbled into an incredible group of people where multiple people have talked to me trying to better understand my flavor of autism and teach me about things that i havent been exposed to before such as drinking and thay sort of thing
As someone with autism who does some of these things I admit that even I have wondered similar things about weather my condition mixed with my actions might not be responsible or safe but I also have to remember that I am more mature than many neurotypical individuals are when it comes to substance use so I pay attention to how my body responds to things like alcohol and smoking so that I can stop before I hit my limit which is more than I can say for most people I know 😂. I have drank but never been drunk and my neurodivergence pushes people to think that if I ever get to enjoy my drink even a little too much I’ll magically become an alcoholic overnight which isn’t true because drinking makes my chronic nerve pain almost unbearable after a few shots of vodka which stops me from drinking far more than I can handle and I only drink like once or twice every two or three months anyway 😂😭🤷♂️
You really explained this in such a concise and digestible way. I worked with many people who had different levels of developmental disabilities. Some lived with parents , some on their own or a form of group home with a daily caretaker. However even the ones who lived in group settings mostly were independent even if they weren’t verbal. They’d get themselves to work even if just for a few hours a week, did chores, had friends, and with some guidance would meal prep and balance cheque books etc… I try to let other even non disabled set conversational tones with me. I’m a Deafie and so peiple will often make assumptions, so I try to not do such with others. I’ve also found success teacher some non verbal friends a few signs which they really enjoyed ✨❤️✨
I honestly think if as a society we approached vices in a cautious, informative, and supportive way when introducing them, there would be very few people who couldn’t engage with them. Not to mention - I’m audhd and probably pretty close to moderate support needs - but I’ve told my mom flat out that I refuse to be diagnosed, because I know for a fact that my support needs would be taken as my inability to make decisions for myself. I told her that I love her and im so so happy for her support and she makes dealing with things so much easier - but right now, I can choose if I glance at her to ask her how to answer a question that im inclined to answer with obtuse honesty. If I got diagnosed, I would have to choose between receiving support for my needs or being regarded as competent to make my own decisions. I love my mom. I know she would listen to me. But at no point do I ever want to have a doctor ignore me and my pain or discomfort because clearly, I can’t give consent. It’s absolutely infuriating.
right. NOT. EVERY. SINGLE. RACING. IS. ABUSE you cannot use a small part of an industry and use it against the WHOLE thing its like saying ALL animal farming is bad because theres some factory farms.
@@Eros.n.pippinsIt’s not a small part of the industry. Many horses are drugged, whipped excessively, and started at two years old. Which can cause severe problems down the line.
@@k_rodeo TBs grow extremely fast. i know a 70% tb (2yr) and a 98% tb(4 months) and the 98 is already pretty filled out + growing like crazy, will definitely finish growing before the 70% and end up full height by around 3yrs theres no doubt about it and i think you should look outside your little box. drugging is illegal and only calms/slows a horse down(which is technically the wrong way if you wanna win), many places have a 3 touch rule(for the FOAM whip) the other times you see them using the whip is for SOUND. if a jockey goes above the 3 rule, they get fined on the spot and in some cases, disqualified.
I'm kinda similar to her in ways (I'm autistic, have an extreme fear of needle and was born with mental and physical disabilities I consider myself higher functioning) I drink, gamble with my family on trips and smoke weed as I personally find it helpful to keep me calm and relaxed I'm usually very mindful with my own limits of all these things
As an Autistic adult who struggles to be concise and understood, I want to say how much I admire everything about this video. You explained it all so so perfectly.
It's important to teach them in the sense you explain how and why, but important to explain the implications or consequences these choices have on your person and those around you. Especially within the circle.
absolutely agree, everyone is differnt, some absolutely are able and for some its not safe or responsible. Reminder that unless you are a guardian or caregiver its not your place to ask :)
I think my autistic spectrum characteristics lead me to measure out the alcohol that i would drink to get the desired effect. I started when I was fifteen, and other than maybe two incidents I had been able to drink many times before I was 18 without issue. A large part of why I measured it out was to understand my limits
“Simply not knowing better is human, not hateful.” Thank you for saying this, cause so many people get mad when you ask this type of question and it’s just like…I genuinely do not know, I’m not trying to offend anyone. Then you leave…still not knowing
I’m AuDHD and I smoke weed and drink occasionally. Weed is a lifesaver for my anxiety, OCD, and insomnia, and alcohol helps me loosen up and be more social at clubs or concerts.
My mom knew that my dad struggled with addiction... so on my 19th birthday, she took me to the casino and gave me $5 to try the slots. I thought it would be a fun experience, so I did. And two minutes later, my $5 was GONE. Just gone, with nothing to show for it! She asked me "Do you want to try again?" And I was so disgusted that I said no. And she says, "Good. Let's get out of here." 😂 I thought it was annoyingly hilarious, but this was before I knew how bad my dad's addictions really were. But she knew the truth. I've never gambled again, but that experience really stuck with me. She knew she had to let me experience it myself, in a safe environment (or rather a safe budget), and realize on my own that it was not good for me.
I remember working at an adult day facility for adults with intellectual disabilities, autism included. And one of the employees tried taking away this guys coffee! 😂 he was older than she was and he had been drinking coffee every single day for decades. But yet the fact that he had an ID made this new employee think that he can’t have a cup of coffee.
personally, as someone with autism aswell. i noticed that i get very easly addicted to things once i start with it. it has mostly been collecting/buying trinkets like pins, and gaming so not that serious yet. but i still have to keep being mindfull of it and catch myself if it becomes too bad
Me and my brother are both autistic, but my case is more minor than his. So I have the cognitive ability to be able to vote for the next president; However, my brother doesn't even know what a presidental election is as that's not relevant to his own little bubble/world 😅
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I would like to add that there are adults who are not disabled who couldn't handle gambling, smoking, or drinking. So while some disabled adults can participate just fine, others may not just like every other adult. There's definitely some extra considerations like the ones pointed out in this video. Love the content bc I learn new things ❤
I have asd and ended up experiencing pretty serious drug addiction (better now though :), clean for 6ish years !) I think there are a lot of things about the asd experience that can make drugs particularly appealing; relief of anxiety, it's novel behavior driven by curiousity, it's repetitive and obsessive, extremely stimulating etc etc. Im not saying people with asd can't be allowed to make their own mistakes, just that we should maybe be careful exposing our friends/family to certain things and to be aware that having asd doesn't mean you're going to be straight edge 📏 :)
@@Ty-sm9cvvery well said
Interestingly, SUD (substance use disorders) and addictions are considered to be disabilities and depending on what we are talking about it can be 50-70% genetics.
@@meccanomanI agree with this. LEGALLY it’s a disability, but legally so is ADHD and nobody thinks of that as a disability. To me, autism is equal to ADHD in terms of brain alteration. More of a spectrum of severity of course, but generally unless paired with other things it isn’t fully disabling.
@ellespoonies It is though, it's so disabling at times. I used to think like you, and think that it was society's fault we struggle. But while society certainly doesn't help, autism alone makes life very difficult. There are times I can't feed myself, times I can't bathe myself due to the sensory overwhelm, times I can't do what I need to do to function as an adult. For example getting a job, all of the things that go into doing and maintaining a job are so hard for me. Social cues are so fucking difficult, so keeping friends has been impossible my whole life.
I know from experience you are coming from a good place, that us autistic people aren't really that different from allistics. But sometimes, we are. I learned the beliefs you hold from very low support needs autistic, people who felt insulted to be considered disabled because of a disorder they don't feel is really harming their lives. And I'm glad those people are doing well for themselves, but autism, in and of itself, disrupts our lives.
I personally, because I have good communication skills, would be regarded as 'high functioning'. And the truth is that im really not. If it weren't for the people in my life, helping me through what I deal with, nothing, and I mean nothing, would be able to get done for me.
All in all, a disability is anything that impairs your life, and your ability to do the things you need to do to thrive, and autism very much does that.
I wonder, and zero shade towards you, but i wonder if the mindset that autism isn't a disability as a whole stems from internalized ableism, that, maybe people who think that hate the idea that something they have can be a disability? And I mean, logically that would make sense, when society as a whole tells us that we HAVE to be functional, that we HAVE to be "normal".
My view points on this only began to shift when I switched from interacting only with those low support needs autistics in forums, and began speaking with and listening to those with higher support needs as well. It made me realize that I do in fact struggle, badly, and am in a constant state of fighting to be seen by people around me as "normal". I use normal in quotes, as I'm referring to what society expects us to be like.
I'm sorry for such a long text, I promise im not attempting to come at you or insinuate you're a bad person for holding a different opinion than me. I just wanted to put my two cents out there and explain why I believe autism is certainly a disability.
"Simply not knowing better is human, not hateful"
Now that's a quote that could save lives.
As an autistic who scripts … and also trains clinicians in autistic suicide prevention … you’re right ❤
Reminds me of a thing I saw the other day about the father of someone who came out as trans lovingly shouting, “His pronouns are she/her!” At anyone who gives them trouble.
Are they all the way there? No, but they certainly have the spirit 😂❤
Completely agree ❤
Yes! So often now people get bashed for simply being curious, not knowing, wanting to learn. Sadly, many people label not knowing something as hate and discretion. That reaction only discourages people from asking questions or learning.
As a physically disabled person I have never found it hateful for someone to ask questions and want to learn. If it is something too personal or invasive or that i legally cannot tell them, like prescription fentanyl, then I politely decline to answer.
As long as you are polite and willing to accept it if someone doesn't want to share certain things then I don't see a problem with asking a disabled person or caretaker about how they do things or what they do or don't do with their disabilities. Just don't act like you know better and lecture them about how you think they should be doing something or bitch about paying them because you pay taxes and assume they get disability.
I know some disabled people who don't feel comfortable sharing anything, but I also know many who love sharing and educating anyone interesting about their life with their disabilities.
Again, I think the most important thing is that people are respectful about asking questions, don't angrily demand personal medical information or act like someone needs to prove that they really are disabled to you, or completely ignore the disabled person and speak about them to other people as though they are an inanimate object.
@@thepricklypearsociety if you think my comment was in support of trans rights, I've got a boat to sell you with only 40% interest.
I work at a local bar and my absolute favorite patron is a man named Clyde. Clyde is a 60 yr old man with Down syndrome, He doesn’t drink alcohol but we keep Diet Coke in a bottle just for him. He often talks to me about how people give him a hard time for hanging with drunkies as he says but he love everyone and everyone loves him. Saturday night would not be the same without him. He is our running champion in trivia! He may not be considered to make sound decisions but honestly he’s one of the most responsible customers I’ve delt with he is the best.
When I saw the name Clyde I thought u were giving soda to a horse! 🤦♀️ I was thinking of Clydesdales
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 when I was a kid I used to ride a horse with my mom to a little convenience store and she would get “boogity” the horse a Budweiser in the can. He would shotgun it!😂 Horses love beer! Not soda. Lmfao.
Pfff smart-ass.
Keep sober so he can beat everyone on trivia.
I see what he's doing there. 😂😂😂😂
I think this ties into the concept of the dignity of risk. Non-disabled adults are allowed to engage in activities that involve risk - disabled adults should also have that right. There is plenty of nuance here and every person is different, but just because there is a risk inherent in an activity, doesn’t mean it should automatically be off-limits, even if someone did have a legal guardian.
Oh, I've never heard the phrase "the dignity of risk"! That's something I think most of us take for granted as adults - it's nice to have something to call it.
This is very true. As a physically disabled adult I have often chafed at the fact where other adults my own age are allowed and encouraged to take risks at their own discretion there is a massive tendency to try and not allow me to do the same. I am physically disabled and have low support needs autism and that does make me inherently more vunerable in certain situations. However I am compos mentis and perfectly capable of assessing risk myself and choosing whether or not to engage that risk. I remember when I was 19 just before the pandemic at an age where a lot of people are moving away to university and living on their own, on my way out to the shops alone and a friend of my mum asking her if I should really be going out alone. She had just been talking to me and having a normal conversation, she knew I was mentally competent and an adult and yet still in that moment not only did she question if me doing things alone was OK which I could understand given my physical needs she decided that my mother was my keeper and the one who would be deciding if it was safe. Not me the person she was currently having a conversation with. I'm very grateful to have a mother who laughed at the idea I shouldnt be allowed out alone and said of course she is, she can call if she needs me. I will always need physical care because of my physical disability and if you take away my ability to make these decisions for myself you are reducing me to the level of a child. Coddled and cosseted, not allowed to live in the real world.
@@thefaboo agreed!
I think it depends on whether or not the person is capable of understanding the risks involved... Me and my little brother are both autistic... I've used hard drugs, smoke weed regularly and take sometimes take risks in life but I do so knowing full well what the consequences may be... My brother however does not fully understand things like that... My parents, who are still his guardians as a 26 year old, let him pretty much do whatever he wants and in several cases it has made things difficult for him and put him and others in dangerous situations
"dignity of risk" is an amazing phrase. I'm going to remind myself that I have that right too.
I heartily agree with you. As a separate but related discussion, it's also good for Autistic folks to be aware that we are at higher risk for addiction than the "average" person. So if you're a consenting adult then by all means, go participate in adult activities that you want to participate in. But just be a little extra cautious and stay aware of your relationship with anything addictive or habit forming.
To be clear: this isn't meant to be a reaction to the specific circumstances of you going to the race track and gambling! I just meant it as a general caution to other autistic folks thinking about gambling, drinking, or doing anything else that can be addictive.
I was going to say the same thing! I know that since I have ADHD, I'm a lot more vulnerable to addiction. I've even had some close calls with addiction to apps/social media. So I always try to either stay away from addictive things or be extremely cautious around them. Like I will never, ever, ever try a vape or cigarette, but I'm open to having alcohol sparingly in social situations.
I knew I was more prone to addiction than most others from a very young age and being aware of it early was really helpful
true. came from an autistic adult here
@@alik9783ya I think that is probably a good thing kuz out of everything I’ve tried the only thing I got hooked on was nicotine (not counting common addictive substances like soda but I have soda issues too). It really sucks because nicotine blocks sugar processing receptors and can lead to health issues like diabetes due to the body not breaking down the sugar consumed. Lucky for me diet changes helped me get out of the red zone of being pre diabetic so I have time to sort out my issues and find something healthier to fixate on instead of vaping all the time. Addiction is difficult with autism and anxiety but if you ever find yourself struggling with something like that I’ll be right here to try to support you and anyone else who needs it now or in the future ❤
All adults are different.
Yes
All people are different people
@@andrewlance3898 This
Plus there are plenty of people without learning disabilities who are prone to gambling addictions or drinking addiction. I think it all comes down to taking advice from people who care about you when it’s constructive and also keeping yourself accountable while keeping in mind your family’s health history❤
* autism spectrum disorder is a developmental disability- not a learning disability
As a mom who didn't know much about autism and now has a young autistic child I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into each one. You've taught me so much!
As a fellow autistic person I have found that although I am perfectly capable of understanding the ins and outs of gambling and making an educated decision on how and when to do so, I have also been gifted with the knowledge that it’s a waste of time and money, so I choose not to 😂
My stance exactly 😂 same with smoking and drinking.
The only problem I have with it is in the case of horse racing you're perpetuating animal abuse.
Many horses die every year because of this sport.
Yes horse racing needs to stop. It’s outdated and they hide how many horses are seriously injured and die each year.
yeah as an equestrian, it's honestly so disgusting to me. someone who veiws their horse as a tool to make money and ride on and nothing more isn't an equestrian, just a gross monster
I 100% agree. what is terrible is that so many people don't realize that so many equine sports are just abuse. And there could be some people out there that don't abuse horses for racing but the majority of them are abused.
The battery in your phone/laptop that you used to post this comment is filled with lithium which is mined by children under conditions that essentially amount to slavery. So you yourself are perpetuating slavery/child-abuse.
You tried to virtue signal but in reality you just proved how much of a hypocrite you are.
Ok vegans
The racetrack is actually really cruel to horses. So that’s the part that makes me sad 😢
Same.
Yes
Ok vegans
@@CompletelyWild04 Crack a dictionary sometime.
Thank you for reminding people that capacity is a spectrum. Lots of people don't realize that those with intellectual disabilities aren't overgrown children.
I really love how balanced and well thought through your takes are
It’s not the gambling, it’s the animal abuse. Racing is a dirty, dirty business.
@-.OurChampionWorld.-it is: it is ALL bad, and if even for the sake of argument some equines didn’t have horrific lives it still wouldn’t justify this. I live by the kill lot. You are ignorant
@-.OurChampionWorld.- lol imagin supporting it
@-.OurChampionWorld.- um I have a ex race horse I think your just the problem here like ik you probably have horse and everything but your probably not to ethical
@-.OurChampionWorld.- lmfao you’re delusional. Do you even know how many deaths this race track had last year? Breeding horses keeps kill lots full, racing is a blood sport
Y'all, it can be both. Sadly, the majority is more abuse. Profit for multiple companies either way. Not all are bad, but too many are.
For me, we knew it would never be appropriate for me to gamble cause of my choices of games at an arcade. Also I feel like those closest to me should be more suspicious when my friends take me to parties tho. I drank and I liked it too much. Now I’ll sneak alcohol whenever I can. I’m a bit of a menace in that respect but I’m not an angry or horrible drunk. I just like how it makes sensory things not so bad.
So not a menace I just used that word wrongly. I just know it’s a problem that it can progress if I don’t look into help I just feel like I’m not worth it. I’ll be difficult either way. 🫤
Same here...
Gacha games, or any game with RNG loot really, always remind me to never gamble.
@@fireblade295 we’re probably worth some help let’s be real. We can succeed at things that aren’t a gamblle and id bet you on that NoHaha.
try smoking some weed, less harmful and helps with my sensory issues too😂👍
@@Electraa. hahaha but this can be highly addictive too.
I’m addicted to weed for a few years now. I don’t drink Alkohol anymore but wouldn’t say smoking is less dangerous when it comes to the risk of getting addicted to a substance.
I love seeing how other autistic adults do things …. I’m 18 diagnosed last week and still processing it to be honest, for me I find these things very black and white: smoking, drinking, gambling etc. people have told me in the past or in childhood that they are ‘wrong’ or ‘dangerous’ in some way and so I won’t touch them at all. Not sure if anyone else thinks this way but just interesting to see other perspectives.
Unfortunately, those sorts of things are complicated. Here's how I tend to categorize these issues!
Smoking cannot really be done responsibly (for me at least) since it can cause lung damage. Even just smoking pot can irritate your lungs as they're not built for it. So, I put it in the dangerous corner as damaging myself is not worth whatever effects the inhalant may give me. Anyone who self-medicates with marijuana can do so in a safer manner with edibles.
Alcohol depends mostly on the person and how it affects them. You also have to be careful who you do it with and where. A single drink can relax you, but it can also make processing difficult. It does for me. So, I only drink a minimal amount of alcohol at home and stop when I no longer feel comfortable with the affects. Drinking slowly over the course of an hour, eating food with the drink, and drinking water to stay hydrated can keep your head on straight!
Gambling is inherently risky and mostly has to do with how much money you're willing to lose. Some people toss in pocket change that won't really affect them and others throw away their lives trying to win it. I suggest avoiding gambling since it's system can often be rigged (depends on what you're gambling on and the game itself). If you choose to do so, don't use an amount of money that would financially put you in trouble. Only use an amount that you can comfortably afford to lose since there's a large change you will.
Hope my thought processes help!
Autistic or not, a lot of young adults have that mindset coming out of high school and into the real world. Once you get some real life experience of your own, you'll be able to make decisions for yourself on whether or not you want to participate in these activities, not just going along with whatever other people told you in the past.
I used to say I'd never get drunk or high, but now as a 31 year old, I love drugs and can incorporate them into my life in healthy, non-destructive ways. My parents will never understand it though 😂
Ooh I’m 27 and trying to get my diagnosis now. I’m super nervous. I look at things not as right and wrong. Right and wrong are subjective, factual effects are not. Consider the factual risks and benefits of doing these things and know for a lot of things there’s a line we’re the good thing becomes a bad thing. You can find that line by seeing cause and effect of the action on yourself and others. It’s a evidence based process for me, hope it helps give some insight on managing black and white thinking
This is accurate, as an autistic adult I learned my own limitations in regards to adult pastimes before moving out for college, it's something that responsible parents will help their own children figure out, not just for people with disabilities
The music and calming narration immediately brought my mind to an Rx ad you’d see on tv 😂😂
“There are as many kinds of autism as there are people who have it.” -Diane Duaine
Then you understand that it's a meaningless diagnosis. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
Then there is no autism.
Not meaningless. A spectrum. I know an autistic person who have very severe sensory issues due to her autism, much worse than anyone else I've seen. Thats makes it different but also still in the criteria for autism.
Autistic people can have different levels and severity of symptoms because its a spectrum, but that doesn't mean the diagnosis is meaningless at all.
Did you know not all downsyndrome people have the very specific facial symptom? Did you know that ADHD people have a large spectrum of symptoms and severity levels?
Just because someone presents differently doesn't mean they don't have something is what im saying.
I hope this helped :)
@@ginnys.matthias1818 The whole "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism" trope is meaningless.
There quite obviously have to be common traits in order for there to be a diagnosis. There may be additional factors and severity which create unique characteristics, but if everyone is different then there is no definition of autism.
@@ginnys.matthias1818 no, it further solidifies that autism means nothing. The spectrum is SO broad that it encompasses every single possible human behavior , trait and characteristic. There's nothing that isn't autism at this point.
And how dare you compare the never ending sliding scale of of the trendy autism diagnosis, to an actual testable tangible quantifiable chromosomal abnormality , down syndrome.
The only people who would NOT have the full facial and physical characteristics are those with mosaicism. Where only a portion of their cells carry the trisomy.
You can see it and test for it. Because the chromosomes are affected. And that is extraordinarily rare.
Autism isn't anything anymore. You can't even test for it . Everyone has it. It's meaningless.
I think one of my fav things about reading your comments is the difference of people but still reaching the same ground ❤❤❤
Ok um you can tell those horses are around 2 or 3 years old and there bones are still developing and horse racing is abuse some racers drug there horses for them to go faster and I ride horses and I dont support horse racing so um ya those poor horses
ok up you are very misinformed, you know you can't tell a horses age just by looking at them, and you don't race 2-3 year olds on the big tracks like this, these kinds of tracks aren't for green horses so their age range is probably more 5-8 simply because these are bigger races and you want a horse more experienced, the two to 3 year olds are done at the virgin races which aren't common on the bigger tracks, and it's also way less common to start a horse that young, more and more trainers are waiting until 3-4 when the bones have fused, it's more economically favorable since you don't break them before they've won you anything and it's less cruel
also drugging is illegal and very well regulated, and there is sever punishment to people who do drug, also the drugging doesn't make them "go faster" if people drug it's usually bute which is a pain killer and they force the horse to run on an injury (which is more cruel then what you were saying, but I'm just proving a point that you don't actually know what you are talking about)
most of the information you stated is dated or plain misinformation, horse racing while it still has a lot of problems has fixed a lot of its problems, the problems now come from the fact that it sends a lot of horses to kill pens, and the training is still really hard on their bodies, but more so for their heart and lungs rather then their legs
but like all sports there is a right and wrong way to do it
(coming from an eventer who loves her OTTBs by the way)
Ok vegan
As someone who was diagnosed with autism at the age of 33, I love your channel.
Girl. I absolutely love that pink floral dress❤
She is my spirit animal, this woman has taught me more about my own autism than the neurologist did.
Its making me happy seeing you jumping and running happy around...its so beautiful❤❤❤
I had a student get into a gacha game, its gambling but you dont get money from it if you win, just characters for the game. I just was able to share information that made it to their family. I wasnt going to tell the student they cannot play it, but I wanted to make sure someone who would be able to support them consistently knew what the risks are and how easily you can slip down that rabbit hole (i know i can if I'm not careful)
I hate the fact that if I'd jump around the way you walk, I'd be called childish. When in truth it's me having to suppress it to make everyone feel like I'm an adult like them. No one ever cared to ask "why" instead they all said "no" or "not now" or "time to act like an adult".
I literally love that learning about you helps me learn about myself keep slaying
Mostly posting to say, yeah, samesies. I may be autistic, but I still have the cognitive ability to live on my own, take care of myself, and take care of my (also autistic) son. And to make my own choices regarding vices - I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t gamble often (I don’t trust myself to do so responsibly, without the help of my wife, my parents, or my siblings).
I think it’s very cool that you got to learn how to gamble with your dad - also, horses.
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You articulate this beautifully, and I seriously appreciate the empathy you show to people that ask questions such as this
You always explain things in the best ways with the most care and kindness!
I love your channel so much! I learn new things all the time. Thank you.
I have Asperger's syndrome and as long as I have someone with me I can do mostly the same things as most other people. I just need someone to make sure my decisions are not dangerous and explain stuff in a way I that makes sense to me as I struggle to understand certain things.
I thought they don't call it Asperger's anymore and that it's just called being on the autism spectrum?
As someone who was diagnosed with Asperger's as a young child, I relate to this on so many levels. I can't even make a phone call by myself unless I have "backup" 😂
Same.
What is it that you dont understand? Im not naive like that so maybe i was misdiagnosed.
@@Caprisunmoonnah, you’re probably not, you’re just a different type of autistic than they are
While listening to the video all i could look at was the dress, its so beautiful and looks SO comfy, i wanna make one for myself it looks very simple
I went into hospital recently + the communication book had "smoke" as one of the options. I was so grateful to be given the opportunity to engage in an adult behaviour that calms me down + provides a sense of familiarity + routine (rolling then smoking). Often it's overlooked that adults with reduced communicative ability may want these things
yes it is you are supporting horse abuse
Not all horse races abuse horses those horses were perfectly fine
@@ChelseaLipford-jx1jl yes all races horses are abused. Surprise I also work with race horses! I’m a large animal rvt. They are often and frequently sent to the kill lot! If race horsing wasn’t abuse there wouldn’t be underfunded sanctuaries they are sent to because alllll the people profiting off them would take care of them - forever! But they don’t, and so there are. Do you know how many horses died at Saratoga last year? Horse racing is a blood sport. YOU are the uneducated one
I feel so bad for the horses😭
@-.OurChampionWorld.-it’s true that a lot of racing is fine- but we cannot forget the facts. I feel like Saratoga is doing so much better now, but in the past 14 years 200 horses have died on the track. It’s very sad, and although I’d say all of the Jockeys are amazing and good, the trainers not so much. There have been reported incidents of drugging and abuse from many trainers. Although there were many trainers caught, there could very well be many more using such ways that are being overlooked. Please just make sure you know who you o support while betting in the horses❤
@-.OurChampionWorld.- Yes i know but most of the time they are abused and its not all bad but most is
Most mainstream races are very abusive. @-.OurChampionWorld.-
@-.OurChampionWorld.- The horses are whipped. Maybe not in this video, but during races, jockeys whip them to make the horses run faster. Horses have thinner skin as well as more nerve endings. If it hurts you to be full force whipped, imagine how that feels to a horse when they are whipped non-stop throughout a race.
Do not defend obvious abuse. No horse should be whipped and there is no excuse whatsoever. If you even try to defend it, you are an abuser. Simple as that.
@-.OurChampionWorld.-sucks for you, it is.
*to show me how to gamble* this made my day
Thank you for posting
I never had much structure as a kid so I was exposed to a lot of bad stuff. The only thing I have "trouble" with is Nicotine and Painkillers. Born in the 80s and both parents smoked, mom even smoked during the first trimester. So me smoking tobacco was pretty much on par. I was in constant 24/7 pain from 13-30, I got hooked on Norco during my 3rd round of kidney stones and was using very heavily for about 10 years. Then at 30 self diagnosed myself as autistic, not bipolar. Stop all pills, then after my system was flushed of all the pills. I started controlled meditation with THC, 2 years later I get my official diagnoses of Autism plus discover my constant persist pain is a gluten intolerance. I'm 38 now and never better, I am the husband my wife saw I could be and my kids have a true father now.
I have ADHD and I am terrified of casinos and other gambling places. I feel its the sort of place I would never get out of.
As an adult with ADHD, I have to monitor myself when it comes to activities like drinking or gambling. Because of my low dopamine levels, I know it could be far too easy for me to become addicted to these activities because of the dopamine rush they could provide. My ADHD also makes me extremely impulsive so I need to prepare before doing stuff like this to make sure I don't make poor decisions in the moment.
I know I like to gamble, so when I go to the casino I bring only cash and leave my card at home. That cash is what I'm allowed to spend. If I run out, I'm done. I also bring a buffer with me (a friend or family member) who can pull me out of a game if I'm doing really well or really poorly to keep me from getting stuck in an endless dopamine loop.
Just because we have disabilities doesn't mean we aren't able to make responsible decisions. We just have to be cognisant of how those disabilities affect us and what we need to do in order to still make smart choices.
More power to you. Also horses aren't sports gear.
Nobody said they were, the horses in those races are more akin to the athlete and the jockey is a coach. Seeing as the winner is (insert horses name here) not saying its a good sport but your analogy sucks
It also should raise the question should you have children. If you can't handle these things, how can you handle a child and teach them how to handle these things? So many people who can't handle drinking smoking gambling a mix of anything of these and they have kids and don't raise these kids correctly and harmfully and it just continues the cycle. So maybe we shouldn't ask if disabled people but people in general everyone if we should do this and we should have tests and screening conversations about this because this is important and I love you. You're an amazing creator. You help me learn about me and the questions we should be asking
Well with those people they cant legally consent to sex so its legally rape if they get impregnated or get someone pregnant
People with cognitive disabilities that prevent them from beung able to consent to other things like drugs and alcohol
Video games with loot boxes are just gambling, and in the US those games are rated as appropriate for children and quite often free to start playing
As a parent of a child with cognitive disabilities (she is not autistic but actually attends a school for autism) this really ... hots home for me. One thing we do as parents is take what her future maybe one year at a time. I try to plan for the worst and hope for the best. And every year as she gets older and gains more skills the more that hope seems likely, but I do still keep in mind that she may not bebable to live completely independently when she is an adult and I need to know what resources are available to best fit her when she is older. So I give kudos to your father for helping to guide this experience, and not shying from it.
Even tho I am an adult my dad help me navigate the adult world, and I don’t make any decisions without him, just because there’s a lot of things I don’t understand or know the workings of and he helps me understand all that. And sometimes things get to much where I get in to a mental state where I can’t make any legal decisions, and he is there to help especially in those situations
I am extremely great full of my Dad and what he does for me
I just want to thank you for sharing how you cope and how life is through your eyes. My boyfriend is Autistic and this is helping me learn more on how he sees the world and how he processes things. (Well close to how he deals cuz everyone one the spectrum is different)
I found your channel today and love it!
My farther also loved to go to the casino occasionally. But he made it a special day and did it responsibly.
When I turned 18, wen went together and he introduced me, along with all his responsibility advice. 😊
Later, I found out we are both autistic.
You can tell that poppa bear absolutely addores this beautiful young lady ,he must be so proud!!! You go girl
everyone deserves as much autonomy as they're capable of. I'm my uncle's guardian and he can't do much for himself but he can still gamble and he loves it 😂
You are so lucky to have a family that loves you and chooses to stay in your life. I am autistic and I can tell you that many families shun us and never speak to us and that leads to all kinds of horrible things happening far worse that exposure to horse gambling.
Thanks for talking about this topic, it’s so important and something I’ve never thought about
the real question is “is it appropriate to bring any adult to a place to celebrate and perpetuate animal abuse”
I have ADHD and in retrospect I find it very bad to have been exposed to any addictive behaviour by my parents when I was younger, I am still fighting a videogame addiction and am lucky that I learned from it to categorically exclude gambling and substances from my life and build a large safe radius around me for these financially damaging things so I'd say it depends a lot on own experiences, for example I would handle any potential children similar in that I would not let them near addictive stuff before they are 16/17 and forbid them from using it until they are 18
My name is Emily and I have autism
Me too : )
I think just like everybody else that we should all in some way be introduced to these things in a healthy way so they don't become bad habits. This stuff exists, and we're likely to come across it at some point, so rather than coming across it in our own time and potentially having a bad fixation on it, being able to approach it with someone trusted like a parent is a great way to experience the world without developing unhealthy habits or a rebellious attitude from having to sneak around it. And as long as you continue making good choices and leading a positive lifestyle, I see no reason for anyone to interfere, neurodivergent or not.
That track reminds me of one in upstate NY. It’s so pretty and a great way to experience horse racing.
For me I try to stay away from these things :D Im autsistc (low support need) and I have a hard time casually smoking, drinking, or gambling, I get addicted to that shit instantly!
My younger friend who's autistic (I'm also autistic) grew up much more sheltered than i did. She recently moved in with me and there were plenty of situations where my husband and I were drinking or we had a few friends over qnd we were drinking. I obviously offered her a drink and she was kind of surprised I did. My parents did the same when she came to their house with me for a holiday.
I told her she was an adult of legal drinking age, the responsibility for her drinking falls on her. I had a conversation about the way that i drink alcohol with her before she was even old enough to drink in caee she was ever at a party some time because you know that stuff realistically happens.
Especially now that she's old enough to drink I explained about alcohol volume so she could tell how strong a drink was, and how that effects the taste. She doesn't really like the burny taste and neither do I. I let her try a some of what I'm having and if she likes it I'd get her a glass. I let her know that you can't drink alcohol as fast as you do typical drinks because you'll get drunk really fast and they're not exactly hydrating. And if she wanted to avoid getting too intoxicated or hungover then spacing drinks out, making sure you eat and drinking some water are all great practices.
She's never had more than one or two glasses of something, she's still experimenting with what she likes but she's already more responsible with alcohol than a lot of other people I've met. But if she did want to take it farther than that, that would also be her choice. She's an adult and risk is part of that
Super appreciate this question and the response. Sometimes when people ask 'ignorant' questions it's because they know they are ignorant on the particular topic and are seeking to learn.
Aw you can see how sweet those horses are ❤️❤️
I absolutely adore horses, and have one of my own! I also volunteer at an organisation called Special Equestrians, and they provide therapeutic riding for all ages. I’ve worked with the sweetest little girl who is non-speaking and a kind 47 year old man who wants to ride in the Paralympics!! It’s so much fun and I love all the people (and animals) there 🥰
then stop supporting the abuse that is involved with this sport
Yeah, think of what happens to all those beautiful horses once they can't perform for their owners. They're literally sold by the pound at meat auctions, except for the few that are saved by nonprofits.
@grriot Agreed thank you for speaking up
I’m an RBT for adults and teens with disabilities and YOU GO, Kaelynn! ❤❤
Lol, my great grandfather was a gambling addict. The issue is not to expose but to teach in a safe environment. Better the individual learn that you loose big, and sometimes recoup what you previously lost, with budgeted money and someone who has experience in what is the enjoyable part (socializing, excitement at a close call...) than on their own and making the mistakes.
My uncle was taught to gamble, so because he knows what the gambling rush is, when he does it he only has on him the money he plans to gamble and his wife to tell him it's time to go. No credit card, no expensive object, just the cash. He's doing well.
Just want to say you look so beautiful here, absolutely glowing
i'm autistic and adhd, and because of that i'm at a higher risk of addiction, thats why i try to avoid those things
As a support worker it’s all about the persons capacity and once you get to know a person it becomes easier to gauge what’s best for them and how much to support or not support them with certain decisions:). as an adher there’s time where I’m more in control of myself in these situations and times where I have to manage my exposure or the way I engage with the situations I put myself in.
Also side note that a persons capacity can change through out their lives and can fluctuate regularly within their normal lives depending on various different factors and situations
I got fired from being a buddy to ID adults because my buddy wanted to go to the pub, and I went along with him. It was freshers week in a university town, he was over-age, pub had an afternoon music session... we drank lemonade and talked to girls and danced a bit, and generally had a great time doing *what every other young person in the city was doing*. But his parents complained he wasn't mature enough to decide what he wanted. It was so frustrating.
Lol add the clip of them euthanizing the horse that broke its leg
This reminds me of how lucky I am now. My parents never really encouraged any behaviors for me but when i got to college i just linda stumbled into an incredible group of people where multiple people have talked to me trying to better understand my flavor of autism and teach me about things that i havent been exposed to before such as drinking and thay sort of thing
I really love your content!
Why is that song low key a bop tho
As an autistic person my brother getting me stoned as a teen was a major benifit, I'm now off all anxiety meds
Best answer: It Depends on the Adult.
As someone with autism who does some of these things I admit that even I have wondered similar things about weather my condition mixed with my actions might not be responsible or safe but I also have to remember that I am more mature than many neurotypical individuals are when it comes to substance use so I pay attention to how my body responds to things like alcohol and smoking so that I can stop before I hit my limit which is more than I can say for most people I know 😂. I have drank but never been drunk and my neurodivergence pushes people to think that if I ever get to enjoy my drink even a little too much I’ll magically become an alcoholic overnight which isn’t true because drinking makes my chronic nerve pain almost unbearable after a few shots of vodka which stops me from drinking far more than I can handle and I only drink like once or twice every two or three months anyway 😂😭🤷♂️
You really explained this in such a concise and digestible way. I worked with many people who had different levels of developmental disabilities. Some lived with parents , some on their own or a form of group home with a daily caretaker.
However even the ones who lived in group settings mostly were independent even if they weren’t verbal. They’d get themselves to work even if just for a few hours a week, did chores, had friends, and with some guidance would meal prep and balance cheque books etc… I try to let other even non disabled set conversational tones with me. I’m a Deafie and so peiple will often make assumptions, so I try to not do such with others. I’ve also found success teacher some non verbal friends a few signs which they really enjoyed ✨❤️✨
I love your content so much!
I honestly think if as a society we approached vices in a cautious, informative, and supportive way when introducing them, there would be very few people who couldn’t engage with them.
Not to mention - I’m audhd and probably pretty close to moderate support needs - but I’ve told my mom flat out that I refuse to be diagnosed, because I know for a fact that my support needs would be taken as my inability to make decisions for myself. I told her that I love her and im so so happy for her support and she makes dealing with things so much easier - but right now, I can choose if I glance at her to ask her how to answer a question that im inclined to answer with obtuse honesty. If I got diagnosed, I would have to choose between receiving support for my needs or being regarded as competent to make my own decisions. I love my mom. I know she would listen to me. But at no point do I ever want to have a doctor ignore me and my pain or discomfort because clearly, I can’t give consent. It’s absolutely infuriating.
Don't support horse racing.
The industry is disgusting.
Hundreds of young horses die from it every year
right.
NOT. EVERY. SINGLE. RACING. IS. ABUSE
you cannot use a small part of an industry and use it against the WHOLE thing
its like saying ALL animal farming is bad because theres some factory farms.
@@Eros.n.pippinsIt’s not a small part of the industry. Many horses are drugged, whipped excessively, and started at two years old. Which can cause severe problems down the line.
@@k_rodeo TBs grow extremely fast. i know a 70% tb (2yr) and a 98% tb(4 months) and the 98 is already pretty filled out + growing like crazy, will definitely finish growing before the 70% and end up full height by around 3yrs theres no doubt about it
and i think you should look outside your little box. drugging is illegal and only calms/slows a horse down(which is technically the wrong way if you wanna win), many places have a 3 touch rule(for the FOAM whip) the other times you see them using the whip is for SOUND. if a jockey goes above the 3 rule, they get fined on the spot and in some cases, disqualified.
Agreed. Not to mention starting them extremely young and not giving them NEARLY enough time with their mothers.
The amount of people who don't even think we are able to consent to date or anything else makes me irate.
I'm kinda similar to her in ways (I'm autistic, have an extreme fear of needle and was born with mental and physical disabilities I consider myself higher functioning) I drink, gamble with my family on trips and smoke weed as I personally find it helpful to keep me calm and relaxed I'm usually very mindful with my own limits of all these things
I’ve learned so much from the channel, autism; our daily view .
Im glad i found this one now.
As an Autistic adult who struggles to be concise and understood, I want to say how much I admire everything about this video. You explained it all so so perfectly.
It's important to teach them in the sense you explain how and why, but important to explain the implications or consequences these choices have on your person and those around you. Especially within the circle.
i remeber a disabled person on twitter talking about how bed hoists make great sex swings, and the replies were SCANDALIZED
People HATE acknowledging that plenty of disabled people have sex lives
absolutely agree, everyone is differnt, some absolutely are able and for some its not safe or responsible. Reminder that unless you are a guardian or caregiver its not your place to ask :)
I think my autistic spectrum characteristics lead me to measure out the alcohol that i would drink to get the desired effect. I started when I was fifteen, and other than maybe two incidents I had been able to drink many times before I was 18 without issue. A large part of why I measured it out was to understand my limits
“Simply not knowing better is human, not hateful.”
Thank you for saying this, cause so many people get mad when you ask this type of question and it’s just like…I genuinely do not know, I’m not trying to offend anyone. Then you leave…still not knowing
It’s rather infantalizing though is why people hate it.
I’m AuDHD and I smoke weed and drink occasionally. Weed is a lifesaver for my anxiety, OCD, and insomnia, and alcohol helps me loosen up and be more social at clubs or concerts.
I am autistic and smoke too. Really allows me to decompress, demask and just chill after a long overwhelming day at work
To learn right from wrong then it is okay. This way you can decide if this is for you in a safe manner. ❤❤❤❤
Oh god. If you live anywhere near Saratoga you understand the pain that is derived from the racing season starting, can’t get anywhere
My mom knew that my dad struggled with addiction... so on my 19th birthday, she took me to the casino and gave me $5 to try the slots. I thought it would be a fun experience, so I did. And two minutes later, my $5 was GONE. Just gone, with nothing to show for it! She asked me "Do you want to try again?" And I was so disgusted that I said no. And she says, "Good. Let's get out of here." 😂
I thought it was annoyingly hilarious, but this was before I knew how bad my dad's addictions really were. But she knew the truth. I've never gambled again, but that experience really stuck with me. She knew she had to let me experience it myself, in a safe environment (or rather a safe budget), and realize on my own that it was not good for me.
Off topic, but I'd also like to share that horse racing is animal abuse to raise awareness. Thank you.
I remember working at an adult day facility for adults with intellectual disabilities, autism included. And one of the employees tried taking away this guys coffee! 😂 he was older than she was and he had been drinking coffee every single day for decades. But yet the fact that he had an ID made this new employee think that he can’t have a cup of coffee.
I really like your videos, I appreciate how you speak about your own experiences!
As a recreational therapist, I’m proud of you for trying the race track out!
personally, as someone with autism aswell. i noticed that i get very easly addicted to things once i start with it. it has mostly been collecting/buying trinkets like pins, and gaming so not that serious yet. but i still have to keep being mindfull of it and catch myself if it becomes too bad
Those are not necessarily addictions…. Addiction is also a disability btw.
Me and my brother are both autistic, but my case is more minor than his. So I have the cognitive ability to be able to vote for the next president; However, my brother doesn't even know what a presidental election is as that's not relevant to his own little bubble/world 😅
I’m autistic and I enjoy all 3 😂