Are you actually autistic or are you really an introvert? (5 Ways To Know the Difference)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Are you actually autistic or are you really an introvert? Several traits of autism and introversion seem to overlap. However, it is important to note that introverts are not necessarily autistic and there are also many autistic extroverts. In this video, I will share five questions to help you figure out if you’re actually autistic or just an introvert (or maybe even both).
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🎞️Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:33 Extreme Introversion vs Extreme Extroversion
1:34 The First Question
3:49 The Second Question
5:20 What’s more common in autistic people
5:53 The Third Question
7:38 The Fourth Question
8:50 Autism is playing life on hard mode
10:33 The Fifth Question
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At 62, I feel like a child in an adult world that I am not privy to and don't understand.
So after three broken marriages I have remained in almost complete solitude for almost 6 years. I only go to the shop downstairs after 8-30pm when it is quiet, for instance.
At 44, I coudn't marry my girlfriend of 7 years because in the two or three months we were living together it was a nightmare. All my life i consider the others as human beings from another planet, maybe i am the one from another planet.
Holy crap! Me, too! 🥺
You're not alone. 28 here and it always feel like I'm more childlike than those around me.
The bottom of it is that an introvert chooses not to have friends. ASD Person dies to have friends but struggled really really hard to get one.
The part about making friends made a lot of things suddenly click for me: I don't want to make friends, I want to have friends.
Of course indeed too.
sounds like your diagnosis is : lazy
I want to have friends that I don’t have to question if they are really my friends. I want to know that people like me for who I am, not that I’m merely tolerated by friends and family. Social relationships are too much work. I just want them to be there….
@ConnorGaughan-do9hg Well, that's also how I feel 🤷🏼 Alas, capitalism strikes again!
@ConnorGaughan-do9hg I know what you mean it is all so difficult there too. What I find being ill alas is that work tires you out too. Not nice and if only other people could or would see it that way too.
The reason for not having many friends: trying to be social always ends up with someone trying to take advantage of me, which causes me to distance myself from them. It's easier to avoid having "friends".
Yep, that sounds familiar.
The importance of having strong boundaries…others are not responsible for them, we are
@@refusedone That to me is like saying 'the importance of not being autistic'. Being taken advantage of can and will happen in extremely subtle, very hard to detect ways. I feel and experience it to be totally impossible to 'just set clear boundaries': ALL interaction will 'at points' feel extremely intrusive by way of the fact that there are ALWAYS deeply UNwanted aspects to it - aspects that cannot be avoided because they simply 'come with the whole package'. Nor can I set 'boundaries' to my own experiencing things - I cannot 'shut my senses'.
so many times!
Indeed🎉
3 years ago I would qualify as an introvert. But now, recovering from a burnout, I realise I've been gaslighting myself the whole life. Feels crazy
One is a preference, the other feels like survival.
Great video Paul
Exactly
Disclaimers for the video. As an autistic person: you can be completely unaware of why you are struggling, unaware of the anxiety you are feeling or any sensory issues. How do I know, because I'm 36, recently diagnosed and have only gradually learnt these things over decades when other people have explicitly pointed them out to me or I've had an extreme reaction to something and finally recognised the why. It's why it is so beneficial to listen to the lived experiences of other autistics to recognise similar experiences within ourselves.
The second thing to note is as a neurodivergent person you naturally surround yourself within a neurodivergent bubble of people and places that you find easy because you speak on the same wavelength and adjust the environment similarly so they aren't hostile. How do I know? Because both my children have very quickly identified neurodivergent peers to be their friends and our family's friends/relatives kids are all neurodivergent as well. It is why we didn't realise for years we are autistic as the "normal" behaviour of our children was the same as our family and friend's kids until each of them gradually got diagnosed.
It's why I don't like the us vs them style videos as I would have once considered myself introverted or typical and you just end up feeling like an imposter and go back to your "safe" label instead of a journey of self discovery, acceptance and improvement.
yes, that was the first 35 years of my life too, not knowing why I felt always overwhelmed (hint : a whole lot of sensory anomalies), cognitively exhausted (hint : several cognitive deficits), always would trip over non existing obstacles (dyspraxia), etc. It's only when I was finally diagnosed as autistic that I finally understood why I had so many incapacities and such an extraordinary level of exhaustion and continuously having my nervous system on "danger mode".
@@isabellefaguy7351 I too was diagnosed at around that age (34 ) family suspected it for a long time, but testing was harder to get back then. Fortunately having a diagnosis meant my co-workers would give me more leeway when I talked in an abrasive manner. And I praise my manager for insisting that people get turns talking and notice when I try to say something but get talked over by someone else.
yeah I'm becoming so much more self-aware only now
First 45 years. Second wife diagnosed me after my son was diagnosed in elementary school.
You so right. We don't think in categories they use to describe autistic personality. E. G. In kindergarten i didn't feel different or rejected (i realise now that i was), I just walked away from the crowd and played alone because others where unbearably boring.
I didn't know i was sensory overwhelmed, I just had migraines and got sick.
Except with my closest friend, interactions online are so much more restful than in person. Working from home since COVID has really been a revelation!
This changed my entire life. I've spent so many years struggling in rooms with fragrances, body noises, uncomfortable temperatures, actually having to wear "normal" clothes that are so uncomfortable and distracting because they touch my skin wrong. The sensory overload was too much to handle most days. I ruined so many relationships hiding from perfumes and chewing sounds and bright lights etc. If it weren't for working from home I'm not sure I could ever be employed in an enclosed space with normal people ever again. Your comment really resonated. ❤
I know right, not having to see someone while talking to them is way better
It's amazing I used to think I was just severely socially phobic when I was a teen in the late 90's. But then in my 20's it was oddly easy to overcome social anxiety, but still couldn't ever seem to fit the wavelength of the world and was always struggling ending up alone. All makes sense now.
Same here! I came to realise how differently I perceived the world around me, & how differently my thought-processes were! It wasn't until I decided to do an Arts degree as a mature-age university student did I learn to tap into this 'tangential' thinking, which resulted in such high marks that I thought I hadn't deserved!
Yeap, I don't actually have social anxiety very much, I just have a really hard time interacting with others bc I don't sync up with whatever wavelength they are on. I don't want to talk about random BS, I want to talk about something interesting or cool, and only for a short time then I want it to be done. Nothing I hate worse than being held verbally hostage with someone motor mouthing about surface level, frivolous things.
this "life on hard mode" is a really good description of how I feel all the time. I've never been diagnosed with autism, but the more I learn about the experiences of those who are diagnosed, the more I feel like I should get diagnosed as well, cause it seems to explain all the difficulties I have in life.
Yes me too. I've always felt like it takes all my energy just to get through each day, mostly mentally. I'm in my 50s now and it's all starting to make sense.
> clicks video
> Premieres in 2 days
> "oh okay, see you in 2 days"
"Ok, I'll just sit here and wait" 😐
Does this mean that the "premieres in 2 days" really annoys you too? I would just prefer the video to come out and then be notified that there is something to actually watch.
That feeling actually hurts a lot… 😂
I was sure I was not from this planet when I was little. I thought my parents were not mine and were lying to me. *I am AuDHD*
Also, I pretty frequently learn something, or some new way of doing something occurs to me, or I have an idea, and then my sense of wonder about it becomes dampened, when realizing that I'm.pretty sure that it is something most people have already learned, known about, or realized, for almost their whole lives, and somehow I just missed it. I miss so many things. I'll think, this is so basic and simple, yet I'm just now figuring it out. Always felt that I was living in a state of being behind and never catching up. The person who first described the 1 step forward, 2 back feeling, must have been like me.
ME TOO!!! I’ve never heard someone else say this! Also AuDHD and the number of times I’ve said “I want to go HOME” (even when I am home) during a meltdown is unreal. I just felt like I didn’t belong here and that must mean I belong somewhere else.
While I always knew I was human, I always had the inescapable feeling that I'm really an alien anthropologist here to study the dominant life form of this planet. Long wondering why the mothership didn't come back for me. 😓
There is an advantage in being several steps behind, in that our realisations are conscious and we develop social heuristics for understanding how people work. Most neurotypical people don't really understand how they know social things, they just know.
It might be nice to "catch on" quicker like neurotypical people do, but I prefer to have that slow and deliberate conscious understanding, and I wouldn't really want to be neurotypical.
@saml4004 my son is 5 and also says I want to go home,being at home, he is autistic
Me too. I’m an alien here and I want to go home! 😊 so glad I’m not alone.
Im 58 and this has solved the self esteem destroying screwups and problems I have had my entire life. People cannot figure out why I am so smart but struggle with so many things. Besides having an ADHD dx, Ive been given loads of misdiagnosis over the years but it turns out from this and other things.. I have Autism. I am completely in this Autism list. People cannot get me.. Im a bit like "Rain man" when people get me onto a topic that I am good at. I cannot deal with gaslighting despite having a brilliant education in psych. I can analyze it later, but not deal with it at the time. I cannot stand bright lights, strong smells, lots of noises etc Can you imagine how hard it was being an RN ? I was totally sensory overwhelmed. I literally shut down half way through my shifts. I need alone time because I am too confronted outside in the world. I cannot negotiate normal social conversations.. they make no sense to me.
So many of the points you made I can identify with, but the one that personally drives me nuts the most is not being able to deal with gaslighting at the time and only process it later. I am like a deer in the headlights every time, until I can take a step back and see the big picture and the process flow of what just happened.
I couldn't imagine being an RN! I used to work in office roles, which were generally quiet, but the team meetings were "everyone has to bring something to the table" used to catch me out every time too. Just even the ice-breakers felt cruel as I was so busy panicking how to answer the questions for myself that I didn't catch anyone else's name (and couldn't remember mine). But get me on a topic I'm interested in and try to stop me talking then...
As Monk used to say "It's a blessing.... and a curse"...
yeah- i agree with all this too. i guess it depends on what’s trying to be gaslit- so to speak, but how i react entirely depends on my feeling about the person. i wish i had a witty smooth way to metaphorically shut them down, while it’s happening. but my go to response when i feel gaslit is just disengage from their existence entirely. i disregard their opinion, ill look to end the interaction immediately and my mind looks to just erase them. again, depending on the person, how much of a role they must have in my life would dictate my longer strategy, but if someone is gaslighting me, i can’t trust them, they are best disregarded. i suppose i use my attention as a way to indicate my trust in someone. i may not have a comeback to blatant lies being told to my face because “how can I argue with someone who’s telling me something i know to be untrue”. so, i make it clear im disengaged, and have no interest in interacting with them for the time being. i tend not to care what people think about me, unless it’s something im not confident about, so i will act in ways that are probably childish or nonsensical because im communicating my respect for the person/cinversation. i do believe that arguing with an idiot only drags you down, not them up. “ok” or “sure” is a good neutral to passive aggressive convo killer that i find handy.
@@63FenderStratocaster lol that was only part of my reply. that issue is a huge problem for everyone not just someone with Autism.
"I cannot deal with gaslighting despite having a brilliant education in psych. I can analyze it later, but not deal with it at the time."
I deal with this a lot. I have a brother with a deadpan sense of humor, and I don't get it at the time. Later, it filters through, and I feel like a dumbbell, even though my education and career say otherwise. I can come up with great retorts to quips, about a day after the moment has passed.
About three years ago, I considered whether I was autistic or not. After going over some of the traits, I leaned towards not and I never got an assessment because of that. Recently, I started listening to autistic people about their experiences. Now listening to this video, I am really starting to question whether I am or not and I think I need to get an assessment. Thank you for sharing your experiences
I was in the same situation as you a couple of years ago. There is a web page called "embrace autism" which has a compendium of self screening tests. Not sure if you'd come across it. The "Aspie quiz" and the camouflaging\masking one were the most relevant for me, and also the alexithymia one of you think you are alexithymic.
I tend not to like videos like this one as it unintentionally discourages people from looking into their own potential autism (we are natural perfectionists so we have to feel like we are 99% right to feel comfortable with anything otherwise we will feel like an imposter). I didn't realise I had any of the issues mentioned in the video until a couple of years ago because I finally realised my kid is autistic (even though we were constantly looking out for autism since birth for years) and discovered through them my own struggles, meltdowns (started having them again due the chaos of parenting otherwise not since I was a child), shutdowns, never ending burnout, sensory issues, social issues etc, then finally got diagnosed with the 'tism at 36.
Like you said listening to other neurodivergent people's lived experiences is one of the best things you can do as they help you recognise the things you also experience but didn't know you did (eg for me anxiety, sensory issues etc). I would recommend not listening to videos that have an us vs them mentality as they are likely to be very personally subjective like this one. Paul does great work but you also have to take everything everyone says with a pinch of salt (whatever the fudge that means haha).
There's a saying that if you think you might be autistic, you probably are. A neurotypical wouldn't even wonder about it
@@ReyOfLight That's an interesting point actually. I havn't heard of that saying before. I guess a neurotypical may wonder for a brief moment but wouldn't become fixated on the idea, throughout many months or years. That's a very autistic thing to do anyway 🙃
@@alecogden12345so. I've been googling, youtubing and online testing for a few months now, but also at least two times several years ago. Maybe that's kind of not so usual?
Anyway, test results were somewhere on the "you show some traits, maybe"-level. Since I don't struggle too much most of the time I don't know what to do with this now...
Me, being both autistic as extremely introverted: going out? What? 😆
I can check most of these boxes. I don’t really like going to stores and malls and avoid them if possible but I can do it if there’s a specific reason or thing I’m shopping for. I remember as a kid my mom and grandma dragging me around on shopping trips and getting really irritable with them and not knowing why. They told me there “must be something wrong with you.” I also have 4 kids. When you’re a parent, you do whatever is necessary for them even if it’s uncomfortable to do so. I guess you could say I get grumpy if I’m interrupted or something I’m not expecting pops up out of the blue, but a lot of times I internalize it, suck it up and cope with it the best I can, even though inwardly I’m uncomfortable. I don’t have tons of sensory issues, but I’m pretty sensitive to certain sounds and smells. At almost 73 years of age I most likely won’t pursue an official diagnosis but videos such as these help me understand what may be behind some of my “quirks.”
I have no issue making friends but I have the hardest time maintaining relationships. I suck and texting/calling/arranging meet up and being an actual friend. But when I’m with them in person I enjoy it but the pressure of knowing I suck at keeping friendships is the thing that makes me avoid it
You just described me
And me😔
And me
The thing is, with the first thing about why people like to be alone, it’s a mixture of both for me, there’s a lot of things I like doing alone, like reading, walking in the woods, exploring the city, and just thinking. But there’s also a factor, albeit one that’s diminishing by the day, of being kinda afraid of people, particularly a lot of people around my own age, but I kinda feel like it has to do with trauma more than anything.
I'm afraid of people, too, and very happy with solitary activities.
It's worth taking the effort and risk to find people who are safe, because it's such a joy and boost to our resilience. People who like reading and walking in the woods are more likely to be safe people.
am literally diagnosed formally by multiple psychs and still I doubt
Why do you think that is?
@@chromatinkiss not sure--probably because I was told so often as a child and teen (I'm in my 30s now) by adult authorities that everything I felt and perceived was all hormones or delusion. Hard to shake the formative programming.
Then you should see a psychologist about your severe Imposter Syndrome.
It's not uncommon for people with autism to go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed as something else. So for multiple psychologists to diagnose you with autism and be wrong about it seems practically impossible.
What condition do you think you have that is being mistaken for autism? Because there's zero chance someone is repeatedly mistaken for autistic without having some some other condition instead.
@@jliller to be clear I've only had one official assessment (a year ago), and it was overseen by a panel of clinicians/psychs and then double-checked/second-opinioned. Many years before I got that, I was recommended for diagnosis by a GP (when I was a teen), but my parents didn't believe it and didn't want me to have the tests, so it took another 15 years for me to get diagnosed.
It's not that I think I've got something else and was misdiagnosed, it's that sometimes I'm not sure I have anything except trauma that creates symptoms which look like autism (i.e. masking, avoidance, social blindness). Of course I'm not a medic or psych professional, so I'm aware that I'm probably wrong and thinking delusionally.
@@pendafen7405 Trauma is "something else" but I don't think childhood trauma can cause symptoms mistaken for autism, though it can be mistaken for ADHD (there are good videos about this on YT).
Trauma can make a person not want to socialize because they are scared, but I don't think it causes someone to not understand socializing.
Was the official making the assessment aware of your trauma?
I definitely meet all the criteria mentioned, except that my social anxiety resulted in popularity because I coped by smiling and saying hello to everyone, treating each one with respect. Drinking helped me to relax and socialize. To my peers, I was cool because I accepted everyone and didn’t judge.
But I always felt different and misunderstood, preferred one on one conversations, required at least 50% alone time to meditate and recharge, and I mostly observed human behavior in order to understand it. It wasn’t until my 40’s that I realized that people lie and shouldn’t automatically be trusted.
Now that I’m older, I avoid social interactions in order to keep myself emotionally level, so I can focus on work. I never married and still don’t understand the appeal. I’m hyper sensitive to noise, my skin always hurts because it feels like my clothes are burning me. The hairs on my body feel like needles stabbing me. Clashing colors are extremely upsetting. I’ve wasted nearly $100k fixing my newest home’s color scheme.
After nine years, I still haven’t adapted to my current home that’s in a very different climate. The move was sudden and traumatic, and everything was thrown off balance. All I know is that I lost myself during that move and will probably never be okay here.
My autistic husband never needed to be particularly social, and so he preferred to keep to himself and do things on his own. Just goes to show the experience across the spectrum is very varied. Some autistic people are very social, some less so, some struggle with being social but want to be, and some just don't have the need.
I have been depressed for a long time, but after taking shrooms few months ago, l feel much happier and highly motivated and my ADHD gone , lost a ton of anxiousness and had a few epiphanies about how I should live my life. I decided to buy an ounce for backup, but haven’t yet felt the need to take any more since then.
I have autism, I was diagnosed with it when I was 15. I tried shrooms and it made me function so much better.
Eek I’m autistic too and might wanna try mushrooms. How do I go about it?
Yeah doc.brenttt is your guide. Man is exceptional with anything psychedelics.
Hello Can he be reached on IG?
Yes doc.Brenttt
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
Thank you, not only does this explanation confirm my autism (still undiagnosed at 76) but it clears a lot of guilt and regrets from past actions and attitudes I have had. Bless you. 🙏🏼
The feeling of safety when I’m alone busy with my hobbies! Yes this is what I always feel! And the suffering during school breaks due to horrible noise! And constant eye squinting! And feeling sick as soon as the car doors open (smells). As a child I felt like a being of different species. Then I figured out that I’m the same species, but profoundly different. Never on the same wavelength with my peers. Always weirdo always needed to be fixed. I’m introvert, yes! But I’m also autistic. I used to want to have friends. Now I’m tired of trying and after so many fails and rejections or being ghosted I just decided to be on my own with my one only long term friend and closest family. Plus I Stimm a lot, especially rocking and watching one point in space for one hour is so wonderful soothing and relaxing it helps me calm down in any situation when I have issues to regulate my emotions.
The 5th question really struck me. I was always alone as a kid and well into my teenage years. I also remember never approaching more than two other kids at a time. Whenever I noticed another kid by themselves I would gravitate to them and more often than not it worked out. I still have that tendency to look for other seemingly shy or isolated people in social settings.
seeming introverted was a part of me masking for years. It was a way to explain me isolating myself and not socialising that got accepted by other people
I don’t know, but this video left more more confused than before. I don’t consider myself an extreme introvert, I’m more of an extraverted intravert, but I do find social situations draining, I loath small talk and find it exhausting, and the only time I get energized when I’m with people is when we can talk about deep stuff that’s of interest to me (and them, obviously). That said, I like meeting new people and I like traveling to new places, because it gives me the chance to explore the world, connect and maybe find other folks like me. Because yes, I do feel like an outsider and like I don’t fit into the typical way most people behave. I am also very sensitive to smells and noise, so shopping centers and crowds are a no-go zones for me. At the same time, I don’t view the external world as ”hostile” per se, I see it as ”exhausting”. I like going out for the adventure of it, because being alone at home is not healthy for me either, but home is still my safe haven.
So, I feel that I’m somewhere in between on all those questions…
I feel like those are just regular old normal things😅. Just because a person is a extrovert, doesn't mean they doesn't get exhausted from social interaction. Interacting with with a lot of people is exhausting from the begining.
I think all these classifications put people into little boxes lil too much.
This video also left me pretty confused.
I said yes to 4/6 of the things (in terms of a yes being autistic trait), The things I said no to were:
1. Small talk. I don't really mind it, but I also don't talk to people that often, small talk just feels like a greeting, unless I just never engaged in small talk before, it would be funny if that were the case.
2. Atypical sensory profile. I don't like some things but I've never had too much of an issue with loud spaces, maybe it's because my dad uses power tools ever since a young age. I have been told by many that my hearing is sharp despite that though.
For the other things, it's hard to tell though.
1. People are stressful, but I also love solo activities. I still like cooperative and competitive activities, but do I like solo more because people are stressful? or because I genuinely like them more for other reasons? There is no way to know...
2. Easy, relationships are way too hard, I've only made a few in my entire life that were beyond "oh hey, that's my classmate" The first two, I had to move away from. I believe both those people had similar traits to me. The third, I don't think anyone else in my school had my traits, either that or everyone else (not me) learned what masking was... But my sibling made a relationship, and it didn't work out so I inherited it (this is how many of my other friendships came about, even if they don't last long.)
3. It used to be incredibly hard to regulate my emotions, so I shunned them off and "stopped" having them until recently when my therapist helped me get them back. I have them again, but it's easy to remember why I tucked them away for so long.
4. I have literally always felt like an outsider, so this is an easy yep. Never thought I was an alien or a different species, but I distinctly remembering feeling that I was different and not in a good way.
So in total this video doesn't help me too much. Maybe that's a sign in itself, who knows? I think a better video would be labeling the difference between social anxiety and introversion, and that it's possible to have both. Too many people say "I'm introverted so I don't like talking to people" but that is NOT what introversion means!
I was bullied since the day I was born, including by my own family, just for existing in a different way than most kids and people around me. I did not know how to mask and hide certain things when I was small, so it was obvious to everyone upon first meeting me I was from another world. I was always (and still am) more interested in objects, numbers, animals and nature than in engaging extensively with others. I feel empathy and compassion for people and often deeply, but I simply don't have much interest in nor capacity for constant interaction. I also find many topics most people like to talk about in spare time to be strange and uninteresting. I also don't speak much in my personal life, and that is rarely acceptable if you are in company of others. If I talk to someone new, trying to get to know them, that is extreme effort on my side, but thankfully it happens so rarely that I really get interested and intruiged like that.
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As well as being one of 9 children to my parents, I am from a very large extended family. I am no longer in contact with any of them (not even my own children who are now all adults) - or anyone else, for that matter.
@@trevinbeattie4888 Have you shark dived so far?
Thanks for covering this great topic! I am self diagnosed and this makes me even more convinced! Most of the time, i can't even stand the noise level of family get togethers, especially when children are there.
I would pause after each question to ask myself before hearing your answers, and my responses were almost verbatim to the autistic experience. Another bittersweet confirmation for me , yet still undiagnosed 🌹
There is one more type that needs to be considered: outliers. For instance: extremely intelligent or extremely naturally talented people may have difficulties fitting into the norm. A very intelligent child may have interests so different from his or her peers, that small talk is difficult. A talented sporty kid may be subject to envy. He or she is really popular when making the winning points in a game, but there is an apartness he will feel because he is a stand-out. (Or she) Etc.
Hi, I'm 74, and have always been an introvert. Thank you for this clear explanation of the differences, some subtle, between introversion and autism. When I was in school, autism was unkbown to most, later it was thought it only affected boys, etc. I had good friends in school, not many, but a few I am close to even now. As a young adult I was included in my late husband's circle ( he was a local celebrity), and so on. So I really didn't have to go out and search for friends. But Ive always had social anxiety, sometimes very severe. I can go out and speak casually to people I don't know, and dont mind most environments except warehouse stores and noisy restaurants. Fortunately, I have the means to create my own large safe space at home. So, maybe I am borderline. But it may not matter at my age. Thsnks again for this video. 🌺
It's quite difficult for me to remember how I was getting along as a child. I simply don't have many memories. The first time I actually met other children on a regular basis was in school. I was on a 6-week health cure when I was five - alone without parents. With many other children. The only relationship I had was with one of the personnel. However, rejection was a frequent experience. I always wanted to belong, but except for a few cases, I never connected or I experienced rejection - even disgust. Nowadays, I simply don't look for connection - or I don't have any expectations when engaging with others.
I'm not sure why I'm crying but this video made me cry. I was diagnosed 2 months ago.
Dad: Want to go to Wal-Mart?
Me: (checks internal nopeameter) (Curls up under blanket) Sorry too tired just thinking about it.
What’s a nopeameter?
Wal-Mart for me is like 10x worse than any other store. I go there as rarely as possible and if what I need isn't in stock, I rush out and go to a less distressing store
@@AiryFakeA metaphorical meter that they use to tell how badly they need a map.
Want to go.. anywhere?
*Exact same response*
Want to live out your dreams?
SIGN ME UP!
Oh you need to remember the entire store so you can navigate it!
Yes, feeling like I am from another planet. An outsider, always.
I really appreciate your ordered style of presenting info and dividing it into chapters. It feels calming to my brain somehow, and I think I absorb the information a bit better. Thanks for making these!
I'm a girl with Aspergers syndrome, feeling introvert and scared of conflicts, shy with some people and problem with eye contact
I am really glad I have found your channel today,. I’m 62 and starting to understand and belief myself around autism. It is so helpful listening to your videos because they are very clear and I can take in what you are saying…you describe so much that resonates with my experiences in the world. Especially, the video about the differences between being introverted and being autistic has made things a lot clearer for me. I will keep watching.
Its clear that a lot of thought has gone into this; its really well done and I have no doubt that it is going to help a lot of people. Thank you.
I thought myself as introverted all my life. 6 years ago I got an autism diagnoses and oddly enough a week ago I started wondering if I was never really introverted. Weird how your episode came out right when I needed it. I once again have more evidence I’m just autistic.
I am an extroverted autistic person. We do exist!
@@Catlily5 If you don't mind telling, how do you differ from the standard extrovert?
@@FlamingCockatiel I generally enjoy socializing but I need a lot more time to myself than non-autistic extroverts.
Hello. I’m 53 from Spain.
I have discovered your channel recently.
After having a son with diagnosed autism or asperger, and looking for more information on the subject, your videos have helped me to understand myself.
All my life I have been thinking I was extremely introverted person.
Now I know that, was only a part of my personality, and has helped me to be more in peace with myself.
Thank you.
I've been VERY solitary since Covid. I literally leave my flat to go food shopping, once a week. Today, for the first time in ages, I was non-food shopping in town before noon! ... I hate mornings. They're totally alien to me. The experience was predictably uncomfortable. Too many people. Too much noise. The lights were too bright. The traffic, too noisy.
And, to top it all off, the PRICES were too high! ... But I can't blame THAT on autism! 🤣
I do main shopping once a month and go to the little shop downstairs at night for little things. I literally do not go anywhere else - at all! For me, lockdown was fantastic and I know it sounds selfish but I loved every moment of it, it was the only time for years that I walked to another shop during the day. In fact, I am supposed to do my monthly shopping today but I've cancelled it for a few days, I just can't face it.
The lockdowns and social distancing were great for me too. The one thing that it highlighted for me though, was that it made me realise just how bad I am in social situations. Because I didn't go out and talk to people, now I don't know how to any more. When I do stop to talk to neighbours I feel like a prize idiot and it's all totally alien to me.
@@PeteLewisWoodwork I think it's wonderful that people can share, just like you've done here! You're a lot like me, in not going anywhere at all. And it's NOT selfish at all to have found lockdown "fantastic." I know exactly what you mean, and so will other people like us. And again, I know what you mean about not being able to face a simple task like shopping.
So you see you, and I, are not alone in our struggles! ... But please, promise me that you will take care of yourself? Living alone, I know how difficult it can be, but it is important! We are ALL important! ❤️
@@maidofcornwall Just as I said to Pete in my reply to him, I know EXACTLY how you feel! But please, don't feel like a "prize idiot" because let me tell you, you're not! It's difficult I know, but try to have a little faith in yourself! You're just as good as anybody else. Okay, you're a little awkward in social situations, but don't be too hard on yourself!
There are a lot of people like us. We're special. We need to learn to love ourselves. Please take care, and remember to be kind to yourself! ❤️
@@marcse7en Thank you, you're absolutely right 😘
Thank you so much Paul for this helpful video 🙏🏽
self diagnosed ASD (with possible ADHD) only formally diagnosed with anxiety / depression / selective mutism, but I'm convinced it's not just introversion none of the usual methods to help that worked and have a whole other set of traits unrelated to socialising difficulties like monotropism, hyper focus, special interests, echolalia, stimming etc. I think I was missed early on because I could mask for short bursts long enough to do tests the way I thought they wanted them done :/ and didn't really have empathy issues
after watching yep, almost every difference I related more to what you said for the autistic side of things
Selective Mutism from Anxiety without Autism seems...unlikely. But I don't have a PhD in Psychology.
Lack of empathy is a common autism myth. As an autistic person I am very much hypersensitive to other people's emotions and recently realised I'm actually an empath as I'll experience another person's exactly as they do (eg suddenly cry and look around and notice someone nearby is tearing up etc). I think the misconception is because we can be so overwhelmed by other people's emotions we can go into fight, flight or freeze mode so it appears that because we didn't reciprocate correctly we are deemed "not to have empathy" which couldn't be further from the truth. We also can (like I currently do) experience Alexathymia which is where you struggle to interocept/recognise your own emotions. I suspect if this started at a very young age you may not even recognise other people's emotions unless logically and explicitly explained. Hope that helps!
@@glenrose7482 It's not a full myth. Not all autistics lack empathy, but some do.
@@jliller I agree, hence my full comment explaining the why that is, read the end if you missed that as that is what you would be referring to. There is an excellent video on Jubilee that shows a sociopath who is very much autistic (and confirmed autistic when you find their partner's channel) that demonstrates our points. The context though was for someone who was having autism dismissed due to them showing empathy hence my comment directed to them (and dismissive medical professionals), not to your wonderful self.
I know where you are coming from though as we like to add to the conversation and point out all sides of it even if we completely agree with the other person. We would be here indefinitely if we did that so at some point we have to realise when to add meaningful information and when it ultimately doesn't matter and to move on with our lives. Something I still clearly struggle with 🤣🤣🤣
This really hits the nail on the head. Now I not only see that I've probably been on the Autism spectrum all my life, but other members of my family are/have been also. Thanks for all you do, Paul, your courage is awesome!
I feel like this can also explain some autistics *perceived* as more introvert -- They might actually be more extraverted than preciously thought, but due to those extra regulations autistics experience a introvert-like social drainage.
Unmasking , and/or in comfortable social situations may exhibit more extravert traits.
From outside it looks like situationally introvert-extravert.
While non-autistic introvert sound like they might be more 'consistent' in their energy levels throughout situations.
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At least that (situationally) is what I experience, trying to find a fitting 'schema' for my experience.
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Thanks for the video!
Agreed, I have definitely found that after unmasking I am an extrovert-it just doesn’t look quite like stereotypical extroversion
@@sparrow8072 What does that look like for you?
Lots of special interest monologues or something different/else too?
@@Simon-my8nh a lot of monologues and I have been known to follow people because I was still talking. I get drained from overstimulation but I want to spend time with friends so it can be a struggle to take the time I need to recharge, even when I know I need it
yes x5, especially the last bit. I've recently been remembering a lot of rejection stuff from my past
Thank you for this video.
I'm 29 months into a 3 year wait for an autism diagnosis in the UK. It feels like my life is in limbo waiting to get this assessment and confirmation of why life has always felt on hard mode. I am super high masking, adhd/c-ptsd/anxiety etc and deal with a lot of shame attached to my capacity within this world. It is a constant battle to get by daily and accept myself fully for who I am; limitations included. I have been wondering deeply on this matter of introversion vs asd for a great deal of time now. All my answers today were in line with the autism response examples so that has given me some further comfort I am on the right path and the wait is worthwhile.
This topic really is one I feel pretty hard. It took me decades to realize that words like extrovert/introvert or even shy didn't really fit. I can be energized by social situations like an extrovert, but I can spend long periods of time choosing to do solitary things as well. I thought I had social anxiety, maybe I am a shy extrovert? But the more I looked into it, it wasn't fear holding me back, it was this feeling of being an outsider, this desire to jump right into deep connection but having no idea how that happens, I just know that its the only thing that ever seems to work in those rare instances when it does. The only trait that doesn't seem to fit well for me is that any sensory issues that I have seem mild enough that they have just been mistaken for other things or well masked. I really WANT more friends and more connection with people yet, but more and more I realize its hard for me to go from the theoretical want to a specific one. I want to be connected to people but I find it nearly impossible to be interested in them unless they really engage me intellectually in ways that small talk can't do.
Thank you for those questions! While asking the questions, please note a reality check -
- Does the world and do people feel hostile toward you? There are locations where hostility happens, it's not you. Explore a bit. I started by positioning unknown people as trees and bushes, nice and neutral, which helped me identify when those weren't trees, they were hostile and unsafe. It was them, not me. If it's you, then proceed with the next questions.
- Do shopping centers and certain stores overwhelm your senses? Playing can-can music and having flashing lights means it's them, not you, even if everyone else feels it's fine. If it's the sheer variety of textures on book backs in the library, or an intrusive awareness of the fabric fibers and textures on all the other people in your commuter train, it's you (although arguably, find a commuting time when there are fewer people).
- Are the people around you resisting having deep conversations, and want to stay strictly superficial? That's THEIR problem. Find your tribe and enjoy life!
- Do you feel a strain trying to remain included, and suspect people just want you out of their way? There can be a wish to exclude you for being "not like us" - because of age, nationality, job experience, their own insecurity, a projection that you don't like them, not some sense that you're autistic.... It may also be what I consider a form of evil, they want to rally the group into a cohesive unit, and excluding someone brings the others together - the 'fickle finger of fate' simply chose you for exclusion, because you could be chosen without repercussions.
- Do you feel like an alien, just not part of the group? If you encountered the exclusion above at a very early age - a sibling died, or some such - you won't notice that it's an external force, and decide it's something inborn. Find out. You might just be independent-minded, in a group of group-think fans. Become a force for real inclusion, making sure people on the edges of the group don't get dropped (left off the email mailing list, etc.). You've got characteristics that you can use for good in the world.
this is so clear bro:) the first video ive seen where everything is dissected and explained calmly, nicely, and engagingly! awesome. thank you so much! im likely autistic in some way/on some end of the spectrum but im also an introvert just from preference for activities, but this really helps put everything into perspective.
1: Because dealing with people is physically painful. I go to the store and buy a pack of gum. That's my daily social needs taken care of. Why put myself through any more than that? It would be nice to have friends. There's even one guy I consider a good friend. I last saw him a couple of years ago. I don't visit people much.
2: I have no idea how other people make friends. It takes me months to get to know someone. Partly because of hiding from the world, I have to admit.
But people don't make any sense to me. It's like being dropped on an alien planet.
3: I don't know about sensory issues. What's normal to other people?
Yes, malls are too loud; particularly the food court. I keep the volume down on my music and videos. Loud places are physically exhausting.
And for some reason I can't wear wrist watches anymore. They annoy my wrist.
4: Beats me. What's "emotional regulation"? I'm not sure what the actual question is, although it seems to be related to how easily I burn-out or go into meltdown. I'm better than I was. I've learned to back away or not get into those situations as often.
5: I don't have peers. I've always lived at 90 degrees to the world.
I don't know if I'm actually autistic. I was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder in 1980, but when I looked it up it didn't sound a bit like me.
I recently went to a therapist in my health network for a proper diagnosis and she said at my age it would be too difficult and expensive. After the first 50 or 60 years it's hard to read past the mask.
But I look autistic, so let's just go with that. Some group therapy would help me understand myself and learn strategies to improve my life.
My first thought was, "Which part of 'don't do well with groups' aren't you understanding?"
I used to think I was an introvert and inadvertently pushed myself further towards introversion. It turns out that I am actually autistic, and even worse, I am actually an extrovert. I love spending time with others, going to parties, being in crowds, and talking to random people. I just don't like that my lack of social intuition leads me to getting in trouble with people. I didn't have to worry about being accused of harassment if I just didn't talk to people. Now, however, I have just accepted that the lack of fulfillment in life is a worse outcome than going to jail again. And I don't like wearing autism on my sleeves, but now I know that if push comes to shove, I can just pull out the uno reverse autism card.
Thanks, Paul. I have experienced rejection all my life, because of autism but also because of socioeconomics. I was expected to fit a particular mould, and to portray the stereotype of the successful Australian worker. I do have sensory issues, in relation to bright lights, and to loud noisy environments. I am, for the most part, an introvert. As much as I am creative, I am not appreciated for the efforts I go to maintain relationships.
Thank you for this video! I keep having imposter syndrome and these help pull me back to center.
I feel like this is a maximalist reading of autism, with less insight into what introverts really experience. Which makes sense, coming from a high-functioning advocate for autism awareness. But I think you have made a valuable, stigma-free discussion starter. I’m going to re-watch this with one of my kids, because your categories are so broad that we can both identify with them in different ways. So, thanks!
Oh man, that third question hits so close to home. Literally earlier today, when I was visiting with my brother and his family for Mother’s Day, I was struggling so much with the food (sometimes the flavor is nice, but the texture is off, other times the texture is fine but the flavor is overwhelming or off putting), the occasional shouts from my little nephew, to the general feeling like I was being rude, or that my aversions to the food and noise would be perceived as rude. I struggle so much just with noise on a regular basis whenever I leave the house, to the point that I tend to wear headphones or earplugs all the time to try and cope. Idk if this necessarily means that I’m autistic, exactly. I have been previously diagnosed with ADHD and OCD, so it’s possible my sensory sensitivity might be more of a general neurodivergent thing than an Autistic thing.
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your excellent presentations on autism and how it can affect people in different ways.
I am almost 80 years old and have just realised that I may be autistic (I have a good friend whose son is autistic and I could see many traits in him that I could recognise myself). My GP has referred me to the local ASD clinic (in Edinburgh, Scotland) but I have no idea how long that I will have to wait to be seen. I have always considered myself as an introvert, simply because I did not know any different.
I can relate to all five questions to some degree but two points stand out. The first being: "Why do I want to spend time on my own?" Well, the reason is because I feel that the world is stressful and dangerous. This is further complicated by my loss of peripheral vision (glaucoma) which makes walking in crowds highly stressful, so I prefer to stay at home. I can "cope" with going to the supermarket as long as what I'm looking for is in its usual place. If its not then I feel that its hostile to me and I can have a mini meltdown. I have always felt like an alien but now I can see why.
Having spent all these years putting mask on and trying to be "normal", I now have to try and figure out who the real me is, and that's not going to be easy.
An excellent, informative video with explanations rarely covered through therapy.
Brilliant video. "Playing life in hard mode" - that comment is so true. In my teens I was convinced there wss something different about me - yes I asked myself that 'alien question' (and had some of my peers half-believing I was alien!) - but it took almost fifty years and a lot of professional help peeling back layers of masking to uncover what I am. When I'm in public I feel I'm putting on an act to fit in, to function as expected; when I get home I feel I have successfully completed a mission (eg shopping) in enemy territory without detection.
Valuable post. Thank you.
Thanks for this. With recently late-diagnosed (41) AuDHD, I struggle a lot with Imposter syndrome, but I relate to every single question.
Train stations. Going there, finding the right train, constantly checking the time, always on the edge and being nervous, getting a huge outburst of rage that I have Tu suppress when somehing goes not according to plan, avoiding any interaction except employees to check everything. Getting irritated by the light, getting way more irritated by the notice, when finally sitting in the train, constantly checking where I am, feeling huge discomfort and nervous it sitting their. Tried to focus to something else, like reading or listening to music, only music helps, when the train has a display for the stops.
Getting huge relief when arriving at the correct place and time. Dreading the day to use a train I don't know. Getting huge close to rage quit feelings when something gets changed for a different reason as strike or repairs. It takes long to get used to even the shortest travels.
Having an imminent feeling of slight panic when the train is to early (so I, despite seeing the number) so I question if it is the train, or when it is late, so my complete plan could maybe fall apart and I would be forced to adjust.
Completely annoyed when the train is full, so I cannot sit in usual range of a display, so I need to stay at (most of the time) doors of the train amongst some people, completely annoyed when they talk cause I hat it when the station gets announced and I could overhear it.
Prefer to take a car, and even consider just buying one, even if it is fact that compared to other countries, Germany has a good train network, but I prefer to drive alone where I can control everything of my tour even if it would mean getting into traffic jams or making multiple stops and having the risk of getting to late, not where I want to in the first place or deal with the schedule and all this mess above.
I hate it when people cry, especially women. It just makes me "numb", I go into immediate survival push through this mode, targeting a solution, if it is crying because of the other person is wanting to get attention or has no reason, I become completely cold.
Loud crying of a child or baby.
Yes! One of the worst sensory experiences of my life was the Chicago train station. Non-stop hubbub, no escape from the sound, people crying, laughing, a lost child wandering around, the bright lights everywhere. I don't know if I'm autistic but I suspect it and my reaction to that experience was definitely what I'd consider a meltdown. It was a painful and horrible experience. It sucks because I do actually like trains and have from a young age growing up near some tracks, but the stations are awful.
@@necordektox879 Köln (Cologne) , Düsseldorf and München (Munich). Huge amounts of people, complete chaos. Even the pigeons flapping their wings are annoying, the echo is wild.
Every one of those questions was spot on, though food isn't so bad for me in terms of sensory but certainly any place that isn't home is a huge struggle for me
That was very good. Thanks.
These are very interesting questions. I always thought I was an introvert. I had difficulty making friends, preferring to have just a good one. I now realise that my best friend in primary school was autistic ❤
I think that camouflaging/masking also helped me growing up because I managed to hide in the middle of the social strata: I didn't want to be popular (because then I'd be in the spotlight), nor did I want to be unpopular... for the exact same reason. So I taught myself to blend in and not draw attention to myself. I wanted to appear as normal as possible.
I was part of a large group of girls at high school, but they were more acquaintances. I never got that close to any of them. Yet again, I hid myself in the group, using them as a shield. They were exhausting though!
I copied behaviours and learnt to have socially acceptable interests/obsessions (pop bands of the 80s, for example).
In adulthood, I studied sociology because I wanted to really understand how the world worked 😂😂😂
The secret stimming, the meltdowns, the utter exhaustion from socialising and trying to be a normal member of society... check.
#1: More introvert than autistic.
#2: More autistic than introvert. For me, I'm fine with social situations and I want more friends. The hard parts are: a.) Taking a casual relationship to friend level. and b.) Relationships are a lot of work.
#3: I'm not sure. I think I'm a bit of both. There are some where that's a yes, but others (common for autistic people) that aren't as bad for me or that I can ignore.
#4: I feel like I'm better at emotional regulating when I'm out in public. But that's only because I have my home space where I can decompress. The hardest thing for me is when I need to emotional regulate at home.
#5: Definitely on autistic side when I was in school. Nowhere near the same as an adult.
The DSM5 defines autism on the basis of behavior. "Why" is not relevant so much as "if".
We can debate whether the medical-model DSM5 is really the best basis for defining autism but that is another topic.
If you meet DSM 5 criteria then I dont think you need to worry about just being a misguided introvert. But its ok to take your time exploring your identity.
No matter what you are, you're wonderful. :)
This is very helpful thank you
This is by far the most accurate comparison between a typical and an autistic. It helps me to explain to other people when they say to me: no, you don't look like you are autistic. Thank you for the video.
1. Why do you like spending time alone? Is it because you like solo activities or because you find people stressful?
2. How much effort do you have to put in to maintain relationships? Introverts tend not to go out and meet people just to meet people. Are relationships difficult or just not interesting? Autistic people often want more friends and less small talk.
3. Do you have an atypical sensory profile? Are malls too loud and bright?
4. Do you find it difficult to regulate your emotion? Autistic people often have this problem and will focus through stimming. This is often a byproduct of sensory sensitivity.
5. Do you feel like you belong with your peers, or do you feel like an outsider? Fitting in requires more effort, and the usual tactics of reaching out don't work for autistic people. They're often alone due to outright rejection. Kids are not always sugar, spice, and everything nice.
Great video :)
Here's my thoughts: I'm defo very introverted, always have been. Ever since I learned more about autism in my twenties I wondered if I'm on the spectrum, too. All of the points you made about the autistic experience resonate with me. Especially when looking at my childhood and early teens, before I learned how to "mask" and fit in better. (If I can even call it masking.)
But the thing is, I recently got diagnosed with ptsd and add. And I'm sure these diagnoses are correct because it feels right and the treatments are helping me a bunch.
How much of me feeling different and potentially fitting into the autism category is "just attention deficit disorder" and "just trauma"?
You compare being an Introvert to being autistic, and that automatically excludes a couple of other neurodivergent experiences. It's fine, obviously. I suspect, those are the two things you know, so you talk about what you know.
Maybe a sidenote would be nice that while you can resonate with everything you've described and be intoverted, autistic or both - you can also be neither. Or a completely different cocktail mix with add and other neurodivergent experiences:D
The part about making and having friends is very relatable to me. I never had any close friends. I had experiences in the past that those that I considered close ended up betraying me, so I was more closed off after. I only have a few friends that I consider 'safe' and I think I can trust, but no real close friends.
Same thing with spending time alone, I can relate with that. It's both for me. I have so many hobbies I like to do but I need to do them in a space where I can be completely alone, or else I wouldn't be able to concentrate nor focus on what i'm doing. But on the other side, it's also because spending time with other people is extremely exhausting, for a lot of reasons.. Sometimes to the point where it leads to emotional and physical fatigue and I feel like I need to sleep for 5 days straight or something.
Malls are fine with me, because I find that most people wouldn't notice me and walk straight through, minding their own business. They're bright but the brightness is just right. Being in one is still uncomfortable and feels unsafe to me but I can still handle it.
I find local markets and modern markets more overwhelming because of the tight spaces, endless and loud chatter, different smells all at once, lack of proper lighting and people notice you and stare sometimes. For me it's too much to handle.
That's what I say every once in a while, lol "Was I born on the wrong planet??" 😂 or sometimes "Was I born on the wrong era??"
another helpful insight
Some non-autistic introverts like myself find people stressful because of a history of being bullied/teased/shunned by people for most of their lives.
I have a 21 year old son, diagnosed at 18 as having Autism. I was a rather shy introverted young man, so I initially had a hard time understanding how he was different from me. Videos like this are tremendously helpful to me in understanding what life is like for him.
Great topic! I have asked that myself
Lots of kids ARE excluded BECAUSE they are quiet. Any little difference in a person is a reason other kids use to tease/shun/bully. It could be because of the clothes you wear, the color of your skin, a lisp, a crooked tooth, red hair, too short, too fat, too skinny, too tall, etc. Once you are excluded for just a year or two of your life in childhood, it makes a kid more socially awkward because they are going to be nervous around peers they suspect will do more teasing/bullying/shunning. And the social awkwardness leads to more teasing/bullying/shunning.
1. I like being by myself because people stress me out and/or I don't really enjoy most people's company. I have to say though, while I feel I am an introvert (I've been inside my home for over 4 years now and I have no problem with it). I do have to say that one time I was in a hospital setting and the question came up and I said to the group I was with that I was an introvert and they all looked at me in surprise. None of them said they thought I was introverted but very friendly and talkative. Well, I may be like that when I am in a group because it's expected to be friendly and I use over talking to compensate for my nervousness (or I just over talk because I'm nervous). But I do enjoy activities by myself and the freedom to be who I am without trying to be what everyone expects me to be. That's why I'm fine with not having a mate, as well. I don't have to clean or cook or even bathe if I don't want to. I find things like shaving and make up superficial and unnecessary, expensive and wasteful use of time and money, and totally pretentious. Or maybe I'm just lazy and selfish. Who knows... Okay, I won't answer the next questions. Too much information... oh, hahaha! I used to practice and think about scripted replies when I was younger but after a number of years I realized that none of my conversations went as I anticipated so I gave up such a waste of time, energy and thought. I think it started when people used to say mean things to me and I didn't know how to respond or what to say until I was at home, hours later and thinking about it (obsessing) and then I would come up with a really good come back but it was too late to use. It was a source of frustration that I wasn't quick on my feet. Okay, number two is easier. I just don't like most people. They aren't interesting, they don't make sense, whatever. I mean, I don't HATE them, I just don't want to put forth any effort to be friends. Friendship takes a lot of time and effort. If I"m going to be friends with someone, I want to feel it's worth it. That might make me sound like a terrible person, and maybe I am. I'm honest, though. Small talk is boring. Gossip is boring. Chit chat is boring. I like deeper conversations. I am happy with having NO friends. I don't have any. I've been there and done that. I always end up used and abused. So God is my friend and I have a deep relationship with Him and my cats. That's all I need. And my computer so I can see and hear people and choose to reply or not, lol. But most of my computer time is spent studying everything I'm interested in; God, science (all of them, including medicine and other fields not usually associated with science like linguistics). I love research. There's way too many fields of interest I have to name them all here and I never have enough time and energy to study all I want. So, really no time for friends, either. The main reason I stop by here every now and then is because my autistic daughter told me recently (she's in her 40's now) that she thinks I display autistic traits and she thinks that's why I've had such a hard time in life (like maneuvering my way through it with any kind of success, understanding people, etc.). Wow, these are getting easier. Definitely yes to sensory preferences and I like the way you describe it as "being in control of my own environment". Unfortunately I can't shut the outside noises out of my house. They come right through the walls and windows. UGH. And there are so many loud noises here! And on number four question, I can say I have always had trouble regulating my emotions, different amounts and different emotions at different times in my life. In this time of my life (early sixties) it's the area of loud noises; sometimes I just want to go out and shoot people, the noise is so loud, shaking my windows and putting me in a rage! I'm glad I don't have a gun. I wish I could just let it go, man. It drives me insane. I don't have enough money to move on my SSDI, so I'm just stuck in a place where I go crazy about half a dozen times every day and night. I just have to get through them. They normally only last 5 or 10 minutes, but it seems like forever and sometimes I just want to scream at them. But then everyone in the neighborhood would think I was a crazy cat lady instead of just a nice cat lady and I don't want that reputation because kids can be really mean and thoughtless. Five: outsider from childhood, even in my own family because it was my mom, my stepdad and my half brother who was the family. And my mom hated me because I was the product of a man she hated viscerally for over 30 years after she left him. She was emotionally cold and cruel to me, every day as I remember it, but it increased as I got older, like from age 11 on it was unbearable to me. I was so glad when she kicked me out at 16 because I thought I had 2 more years of hell to live through before I could leave. I recall when I was in 4th grade, I gathered my own group of people/friends because I was rejected by everyone else. I chose what I called the, "rejects", you know, the other kids that didn't fit in, that everyone made fun of, the fat girl, the kid with pop bottle glasses, etc., and I gathered them all together around me as I stood on a small hill on the playground and I would preach to them the important things in life; not what was on the outside, but what was on the inside, not on the things you could see, but the invisible things, because those things were/are more real than physical reality, things like love, joy, peace, justice, peace, freedom, etc. I often wonder what happened to that person... Btw, the rejected people are God's favorites. Jesus is waiting for you if you've been rejected all your life. He wants to give you a wonderful family all just like you. Just ask him. Read His story. It's the Bible. Even from the very first book the ones God chooses are the rejected ones. Like the story of Joseph.
this was really insightful, thank you. i often feel that i am not autistic because i don't meet some of the autistic stereotypes. still, every single answer i gave confirmed that i resonate strongly with autism. socializing is exhausting, i have always felt isolated and fundamentally different from my peers, relationships are extremely difficult (yet i desire deep friendships), and the outside world is tremendously overstimulating.
Excellent video
Thank you very much.
I was told my whole life I was different- my parents said they found me singing under a rock. It wasn’t a bad thing to anyone so even though I’ve always felt very different than others it didn’t get in the way of me socializing bc I didn’t feel like I had to fit in to be accepted.
What gets in the way is 1. Not understanding other people’s intentions/lies 2. Either talking too much or not talking about myself at all as a strategy 3. I truly don’t understand how people talk many a days a week if they’re not in each others environment… that is so confusing and so much energy!! My SO is an introvert but talks to his closest couple friends weekly if not daily!
I understand that feeling well of feeling as though you don't belong anywhere and, repeated experiences of rejection, other..
Experiences of mistreatment from ones you thought were friends.. 😘 I even had a experience in High School as, being mislabelled.....
With as being 'sad' and not wanting to join in, as opposed to having difficulty approaching others.. Was so horrible to get labelled that..
Way, as it were incorrect I simply just didn't have the confidence.. Then years later learning I were Autistic at the age.....
..of 25 suddenly all my experiences and internalised feelings finally made sense! 🙂 Said with respect and kindness 💗💗
Thx for this I've thought about it & spoken to people I wondered if I'm a strongly spectrum autistic person getting to my point I am diagnosed bipolar (manic depressive) & I've been hospitalized so my struggles are more BP this upload has helped me a lot to deal with myself thank you🙏
This was really helpful to me, as I've wondered if I have autism. Two of my grandkids are diagnosed. But answering your questions pretty much nailed me as an introvert but not autistic. Not that it matters ... at my age, I'd be fine either way. Thank you. 🙂
Is it autism or CPTSD?
1. "people are not safe"
4. May disassociate OR panic if too stressed, triggered and/or overstimulated.
5. Feeling different or weird, like peers can't understand?
Kinda want to see a Venn diagram between Autism, ADHD and CPTSD.
Ok sir, I have to let you know that MANY, if not all introverts I've spoken to or read their comments- they all say people drain them and that's why they need alone time. To "recharge" their batteries. People are exhausting. I've seen soooooo many INFJ videos over the last 4 years, and they all say it. It's not because they prefer those activities that coincide with being alone. Just sharing my observations.
Paul, thanks for your video. I see from other comments, that you may have opened up a can of worms that may overflow with worms form other Neuro-types, maybe.
I'm of early retirement age, like many of your commenters. As pre-adolescent child I had severe asthma/allergies. This physical condition created a lot of the same type of issues of environmental control or fear/stress of lack of control. I didn't understand my health condition except as different from my 7 siblings until I had skin-prick allergy tests at 10 years of age - tables drawn on my stomach-chest, back with red marker by nurse, then intersections rubbed or scraped with samples of grasses, weeds, pollens, bug venom, bug stings, animal danders, just about anything small enough to inhale, swallow or "get in my eye". I tested positive fore virtually ALL of them, a handful of the allergens left swelling lumps large enough to overcome the adjacent skin test intersecting allergens.
I'm sure there were enough years of attempting to correlate all the medical info with social rules. I tried to think ahead and be prepared to interact with others in respectful way when I could not catch my breath enough to speak and breath freely at same time. "Sorry, I can't talk cuz I have trouble breathing now." - with such a large family, 7 kids learn to speak quickly and/or LOUDLY to achieve desired communication effect. This was before drug store inhalers were available - before I learned of Primatene Mist (essentially inhaled epinephrine, charging up the energy of childrens' heart rates).
Maybe the family size and socializing unit were large, or maybe I had enough healthy time to learn some typical social skills, but I definitely learned over time I needed isolation to recharge even as a pre-teen. I've thought many times that perhaps I'm autistic, but never had any positive identification by any medical or other autistic people. So, I guess just another view that might be diagrammed with some intersecting factors of Autism. I know too much unintended loud noise - other some drumming and learning rock tunes by choice - could drive me nuts and angry as a young kid. I didn't figure out until mid to late 20s that we all have only so much energy for each given day. Some of us need much or most of that energy to merely cope and survive. It was scary to see movies revealing extreme acting-out in anger or over the top exuberance when I was young, whether The Exorcist (scary) or some sports films (North Dallas 40 or the Prison film with Bert Reynolds playing football in prison) The films took the energy out of me, I couldn't understand how other kids "coped" or actied like, "that's all normal. . .ha ha ha.. . c'mon, forget it."
I didn't marry until I was nearly 40. That lasted 13 years. Old insecurities and isolating, and expending energy to cope and attempt to learn and adapt, after a happier and healthier puberty and young adult period, until the time for decisions and choices for life planning entered. OK I'll stop now. Best of luck and God's blessings for all of you on list and with Autism. We all "have something" we need healed. God heals.
I do have a consistent issue since childhood, even through some excellence in academics - recalling names of people, to speak them. I can recognize the person being referred to or hinted at, I learned I can even list out physical descriptions of face and body, address or phone number, but the name just delays in my recall. This has seemed like the thing closest to what I would recognize as a possible neurological issue of any kind. I've chalked it up to some serious stress hormones in early years interfering with recall and speech "chain" in my brain, I would guess due to the chemicals being competing for life-saving, life-sustaining behaviors and organ functions - chest muscles heaving, bronchial spasms, muscles straining, heart rate increasing, while I learn to internally "relax" other parts like my mind, when I could. That's it. I made a game of trying to speak out all the hints, identifying factors I knew was the correct response for the person being asked about, before someone else could recall the person's name. I sometimes beat out the verbal recall people.
I'm both an introvert & autistic person....just undiagnosed. I was bullied all through public school.....😮💨
I used to wonder about this myself (the idea of autism didn't come up until I was deep into adulthood). The thing is I want and have always wanted to be social, I just literally can't in most situations. If there's more than five people in the social group I'm with or we're in a chaotic place filled with noise and lots of other people my ability to "keep up" with everyone else goes away. I remember going to huge parties in high school and when I was with my immediate social group before thr party snd on the way to it I'd be talking and joking around, but when we got there seeing 50-100 people all milling around, hearing all the different conversations and trying to process thr body language of everyone had me find a corner where I could pretend to be passed out drunk or I'd just wind up hanging out in the car we came in. If I'm ever in a smaller gathering not but it's still too large dor me I'd always wind up splitting off with two or three other people in a quieter area. An exception to this is if there's some kind of game or organized activity to take part in. If there's a set of rules to how everyone is going to behave then things become much easier or if for example I'm playing pool in a large noisy bar I'm fine because I can just concentrate on the game. It's the wide open social situations with lots of people and noise that just totally shut me down.
It's really been really frustrating to want to do all of these things other people seem to do with ease and having no idea why I seem to shut down in large social gatherings. I've been terribly afraid of large social gatherings but I always fought through the anxiety thinking maybe it'll be different this time, that maybe this time it will all click and I'll be the same person around lots of people as I am around just a few people. It's been both a relief and also a kick in the balls finding out why all of that happened. I'm mo longer trying tp suss out the reasons why but I also have to just accept it as a limitation. Maybe if I were younger I could rewire my noggin to deal with it but I'm pretty well done cooking at this point. I'm pretty much past all of that stuff anyways. I still look like I'm in my twenties but I'm well past that and huge house parties, clubs and bars aren't really the place for me any longer. Finding out what I am has gone a long way towards patching over some brusied family relationships though. My father's side of the family is huge. He had four brothers and a sister and I've got lots of cousinss. In the last ten years I've been pulling back from attending any large family gathering, often canceling at the last minute with no real explanation because "I'm terrified" didn't compute with some of my uncles or my aunt, so they'd get upset about it. Now that I have a reason to give them that's well beyond my control
Yes I am an introvert and love it.
I think the 5% is an understatement-perhaps thats 5% who get professionally diagnosed, I feel as tho the numbers a bit higher with all who go undiagnosed or ignored…
Professionally diagnosed autism is probably still less than 3%. 5% is accounting for undiagnosed.
Introvert can mean many things in of it's self. Be it a way of life for someone or a result of other life struggles.
For me it's being a mute my whole life; So due to that and other reasons shutting down into being an introvert feels safer.
You're not talking about introversion; that's shyness or possibly CPTSD.
Introversion/extroversion isn't about comfort; it's about what recharges your energy vs. drains your energy. Extroverts go to a party to recharge; introverts leave a party to recharge.
@@jliller video came out a day after I made my comment. Also yes I feel d rained when I'm in groups with others.
I was diagnosed with BPD 4 years ago (the "quiet" type) and before that I had a diagnosis of dysthimia or persistent depressive disorder. I am 44 now. I identify with all of the autistic traits in your video...especially the feeling like I didn't belong, like an alien but knowing inherently that I was not thus forcing the "whats wrong with me" question that makes life so depleating sometimes.
I don't know about exclusion from others. But I'm more familiar with avoidance of others because you'll just end up annoying them, or will always be the weakest link in the chain.
This is very useful
I don't even like friends coming over because I'm afraid of being a bad host, somehow upsetting my guest, or showing a quirk or trait that I'm judged for.. but I think that last one is the biggest factor for me because my home is the one place I expect to be safe from beratement.. until I open the door to the internet at least..
Some of these points hold for people with other handicaps (sensory or physical/medical) as well. Disability in a major aspect of life can affect everything, including socializing. It requires more energy. Multiple handicaps can make it even more challenging.
PTSD (and mental health issues it may be misdiagnosed as, or related to) can also be an acquired issue with both emotional regulation and certain environments, but usually will lead to withdrawal and mistrust of people, combined with mood swings.
I always thought the key aspect of autism was problems with normal eye gaze, reading people's nonverbals (and yes, social anxiety and shyness is part of why problems exist.) and responding with appropriate nonverbal body language.
By that specific criterion I am, as a roommate put it, "the least autistic person I know." If anything (because of being born deaf), I read microexpressions quite quickly and I can't understand how most people don't seem to see them.
Do I always know what they mean, in a greater context? NO. Social experience teaches me a lot more about possible contexts as I age-- but I am not a mind reader.
I do have autistic relatives, and a conversation with one really illuminated how differently we interacted with people. I can understand why he doesn't see a lot of social cues, he's not looking. I find it harder to understand "neurotypicals" doing that.