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Dragon Ball SPARKING ZERO - Summer Game Fest Gameplay Footage FULL BREAKDOWN/ANALYSIS.
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- I was going to render this in 4k because I recorded many of the clips samples in 4k but I ran into a complication. This took a lot of time to make so I hope you guys enjoy it.
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@Globku
@Ndukauba
@AfroSenju
@Nanogenix
@SeeReax
@DotoDoya
@JeuxActu
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@insidegamesjp
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Timestamps;
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:49 Globku
00:15:47 Ndukauba
00:27:49 AfroSenju
00:37:54 NanoGenix
00:48:00 Dotodoya
00:48:49 MrMittz
00:57:51 JeuxActu
01:13:39 Lucky Salamander
01:15:46 SeeReax
01:19:28 Janemba8000
01:21:00 Skill List
01:38:06 Outro
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I'll likely change the thumbnail in the morning. I spent the entire day editing this just to get it uploaded ASAP. EDIT: The video seems to be doing fine without a custom thumbnail so I won't change it. At least not now. If I get bored & decide to try throwing one together, we'll see, but I think it's OK as is. Shows full transparency. I'm happy with it. I hope everyone else is too.
EDIT 2: For everyone commenting about my not putting 2 & 2 together with my tired mind on "Super Counter", yes I know it's Z Counter renamed. 😂
SHAME ON YOU
W 🙌🏽 can’t wait for you to, more then likely blow up when sparking drops ya deserve it
By the way, Blue Evolved Vegeta is not a transformation, it's a Lv1 Blast install like Blue Kaioken for Goku. That's why Blue Vegeta has that as his Ultimate attack.
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🤗 Hope you're feeling better, bro.
16:01 Oh, thank goodness the second string is back! I legit thought it was gone! XD
36:38 I'm hoping that the reason Frieza didn't bounce forward off of the wall is because of the angle that he was sent flying at it. But yeah... this is concerning.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!
If you mean the video, then I hope it wasn't a letdown. 😂
@@warhawk059377 Yes the video!! Your breakdown is peak. It’s truly the best analysis available, it helps that you’re a pro lol.
Thanks for all the effort, I know this was a ton of footage to sift through.
Appreciate you doin all this bruh, especially with all the editing. Would've been dope of them to let you play the game. All the other RUclipsrs were mostly showcasing the supers and transformations and while there's a place for that, it would've been nice to see someone who knows the previous games in and out look for returning tech and test the potential of the new moves in the game.
Thanks, brother. 🙏 It would've been nice. Maybe next time?
@@warhawk059377reach out to them and let them know your the current best bt3 player
@@mobomba6206 "pro's" in other FGs, they have no understanding of the BT games, so it'll basically be the same as the other RUclipsrs who played it. Mash, mash, super etc.
@@mobomba6206 First of all you misunderstood me, I said "understanding of the BT games" which means they don't understand how T3 gameplay properly works. Lol, I'm not saying they'll "suck" entirely but it won't be anything special sadly
@@mobomba6206 We'll just have to wait, & see, we can agree to disagree on our conflicting opinions! Let's enjoy the showcase. ;D
Finally the upload that I’ve been waiting for. I’m so glad some semblance of the second string is returning because I didn’t notice it in any of the gameplay I saw
Oh boy here we go!!!!!!!
This game is literally gonna be next level!🔥🐲
I can't wait!
I’M WIRED RN, I’M GONNA UNLOAD MY FEELS SOON.
Grand Master delivers, thank you for the hard work.
I've been waiting for this videos for so long, this game is gonna bring Tenkaichi back to the public eye, i think you're going to gain a lot of subs
yip i just subbed now, came to check his channel after glonku video "The Evolution of Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi Gameplay" popped up on my homepage. Looking forward to grandmasters future vids especially someone who knows the previous games in and out and how to look for returning tech and test the potential of the new moves in the game/comparosons. I have a great feeling about this game I remember playing this back on my ps2 with my bro and thought we were pros until i saw some of the finer moves that grandmaster showed globku that I did not know of to that finer extent. Can't wait to get back into it!!
I hope u get your flowers man cuz i been watching u and chaospunishment for years appreciate yall for keeping bt3 and raging blast community alive
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in this video they all play in modern mode that's why it looks like raging blast and xenoverse you can see skills name
Yeah I figured that out afterwards. lol. Hoping that's the case, anyway.
@@warhawk059377 back@@warhawk059377😂👌
Nah. I've seen people play on classic and the skills panel still shows up. Probably just to help out so you don't have to remember the exact inputs for each move on each character.
27:00 I think spinning the analog stick might only happen if you're on Classic controls. I've seen the same type of clash from several creators and some will have a stick spinning minigame while others have to mash a button. It's either RNG or tied to the control type.
28:33 I think it was used against Rosie.
32:20 I think maybe a short cooldown would be nice, but I don't hate the overall idea. You're expending a Blast Stock/Skill Count to be able to retain your standard Ki if you only use your Sparking Ki on a Super. Considering Skill Count is going to be a much more precious resource (thanks to Revenge Counter and Skill Perception), I think this is fine.
Yeahhh, part of me kept forgetting there are 2 different sets of control schemes now.
Let's hope you're right. I'm more concerned about the mechanics we'll have available to allow us to evade Supers. It could end up being an OK change. Guess we'll find out once we have our hands on the game.
I noticed that the teleportation volley is the same for every character
"Teleportation volley"?
@@warhawk059377 my bad I meant "vanishing atk", it seems like it's a 3 hit homing attack combo that ends in you getting knocked downward.
Timestamp? It sounds like Dragon Tornado considering you said "knocked downward".
Yo! Just letting you know. for the tagging system, it's intentional. They said that there are actually combo routes where you can switch into other characters and keep the combos going. I don' t think it's as broken as you think it'll be. I think it's just to help the pacing and add some extra risk/reward to the combo system (do you want to lose your ability to switch out for a few minutes to get some extra damage on your combo?) also seems pretty high skill so I'm personally fine with it.
Like if you smash someone away you can cancel your Dragon Dash, switch & keep going?
@@warhawk059377from what I heard in one of the many gameplay videos I watched i definetly remember hearing something like that. I don’t think they specified how but they definitely confirmed tagging in to extend a combo. I’d assume it’s similar to what your describing
59:10 the reason he travels so far is because the maps are huge, so everyone needs to be faster and travel further to make up for it
I definitely did consider this possibility, I just wasn't sure about it. I also considered the possibility that, since he was Dragon Dashing & input a Dragon Smash, he probably just held it but after watching it back just now, I don't think that's the case. It didn't look like Gohan was winding up for too long. Thanks for your input!
I can't guarantee ill watch every vid moving forward but you have my like and sub
I appreciate the honesty. Thank you!
@@warhawk059377 I hope you reach your goal 👍
that Trunks follow up was just the regular new auto string rush combo with square. if you keep pressing square every character will do that combo where they extend and then hit you up in the air and then vanish and smash you down into the ground. The step in just interrupts that now kind of like a cancel but ive seen a few different types of cancels already so the melee combat in this game probably feels very fluid and responsive but like you said in another video there is potential for infinites for sure but i mean they did add alot of new defensive mechanics for a reason lol i think they just want this game to feel super fast paced and crazy like the series.
I’ve been looking for your videos king 💯🔥
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Great video as usual hawk, can’t wait to see when you have the game in your hands. Glad to also see the Z counter back even though they changed the name to “Super Counter”.
Thank you! Part of me still hopes they speed-up the Super Counter *juuuuuuussssttt a little bit.* 😭
Note that the ki blasts being able to combo is a result of a longer hitstun. It seems like they made hitstun a bit longer + combo counter is more leniant akin to other new fighters out today (Edit: There's no perfect blocks, it was just a block against a smash that stunned Vegeta and others like the previous games)
Considering it didn't contribute to the Skill Stocks, I'm going to assume it's a new block & stagger animation that's been given to attacks that have been charged. In BT3, even if you let go of punch before the perfect timing, it never broke guard or sent you into a stall, so this time I think they've added that in, looking back on it now.
First off, that stache really suits you!
But now for real. Im really glad for what you have pointed out in these videos and my fears of it becomming more like a RB3 then a BT sequel are a little bit more insulated.
I really apreciate them putting in work to make the game more anime\manga like but as you said it would be really sad and no point to keep dash canceling if there are no stun barriers and that clip of frieza bouncing of the wall straight down scare me. Thank you for your indepth video on this matter, I really like how you treat your videos and audience and hope youll gain more traction for this channel as sparking zero aproaches us.
my best regards
Kami
Thank you! Got a haircut & recorded part 2 though. :p
I'd say you shouldn't worry too much, it looks like we're getting a combination of both games where it has elements from both but is still more Tenkaichi than Raging Blast. Hopefully next month we can some more technical gameplay from the Japanese assuming any of them get into Jump Carnival & upload demo gameplay.
I do my best to deliver the quality content you guys subscribe to me for, so it means a lot that you appreciate it. Thank you so much & hopefully SZ treats me well. 😊 You're welcome, of course!
@@warhawk059377 yeah! I was referring to part 2 my bad, looks nice.
Well I think I would be down either way, but nice to hear that from you and yes, I guess we will see once or if the japanease will get some more footage.
Really appreciate the in depth analysis of the combat and movement mechanics here esp. with the breakdown of the movement list at the end. I’m huge on tenkaichi’s gameplay so I’m really glad they kept most of what made that series so fun to play
I feel like my coverall concern with the new combo system is if it is too easy. Its already hard enough for Tenkaichi to beat the "its just a button masher" allegations as is to the casual person lol i like the new extensions but dk everything having a free press squre follow up window. Again great breakdown your hard work is appreciated
Tenkaichi can beat the button-mashing allegations if the people making the allegations become open-minded or simply open their ears & listen. Many Dragon Ball fans are ignorant &/or stubborn, and even egotistical to the point they don't want to be educated about a game that they had irrational disdain for. It could be any factor. Either way, auto combos & Battle Assist will definitely make that task 85% harder to accomplish, but it's still doable. I will be doing a full review of the game when it comes out.
Thank you. 🙏
Hope you can get early access bro , I know you’re one of the few that could give in depth breakdowns and compare it to the older games
Trucks second string was always different in the T series. Others too are LSSBroly, SSJ4 Gogeta and Super Vegito to name a few.
We are so back hawk, also when the game comes out we should play some matches to learn more mechanics from a competitive POV if you want
I'll be labbing w/ the squad, so definitely.
This game is generational
Around 45:00 I think someone spoke about this and said that it occurs when two characters attempt a grab at the same time but maybe it could also be a grab defense mechanic.
You'll see it in the skill list at the end but it is indeed when 2 throws collide. It just seems that they didn't bother to give it a certain timeframe of activation because in that clip you timestamped, again, Gogeta must've been in frame 1 of starting his grab & the Power Impact (what it's called) ensued. To me this is very dumb but I get that a LOT of people don't have the reflexes to grab when their opponent is going for one as well, so it was a way of making it easy to do, making it feel more like a Dragon Ball game which is the focus for Sparking Zero.
1:32:04 After looking at some more footage (Dotodoya’s specifically), I think the Sparking! Combo is more so relating to just being able to do Supers/Ults mid combo (or cancelling rush combos into Supers/Ults). If you look at his Trunks vs Beerus battle, he does a ground slash into Ult relatively fast, way faster than in any Tenkaichi at least. He then does it again not too long after that and looking back at this specific spot in your video I think it lines up. The Blast Combos you’re mentioning usually show up in the Combo section for characters in the past games.
Not to say you’re wrong in your assessment because who really knows 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
That would suck if that's what Blast Combos have become. lol
@@warhawk059377 I would hope/assume that they’re still in the game, just called something else 🤷🏽♂️
1:28:11 I think that’s just z counter but renamed, same input, I could be wrong though
My brain didn't properly look at the input. Yeah, that's probably the Z Counter. XD I need rest.
Very well put analysis Mr Hawk, well done. Props to Globku, I discovered your channel thru him.
Agree with most of your points. You clearly know your Tenkaichi well. New sub here. I really wanna see more in depth analysis like this prior to and after game release. Amazing.
Thank you very much for taking the time to check me out. 💙
Whatever footage we get up until release, I will spend time breaking down to see if there's anything noteworthy. 🙏
I really like what I’m seeing in sparking zero though there’s some stuff I really wish they add to add some layers.
There's still 4 months to go. We can definitely see a lot of change.
Will you be making tutorials for combos in the game once it drops?
Absolutely.
14:09 tbh this could be a broken mechanic, but at least you can’t switch whenever you want anymore, because if you look under there health bar there’s a switch thing or wtv (meaning that needs to be lit up so you can switch to a character)
This was amusing good analysis Grand Master 💯
I'm sure Hawk is very happy about the fact we are just about to have maybe even up to an hour of official gameplay dropped on us ^^
It really depends on what is shown. xd
If there's no Uub in this game, I will be a sad panda.
57:43 i've seen footage of vegeta doing the exact same counter move against goku , cant remember which video but i've definitely seen it
I'll be doing a stream on Sunday with the Bandai SZ online stream, so maybe during that stream I'll find it because I'll be going through other gameplays I've not yet seen.
This needs more attention ngl 💯🔥
27:15 the clash is different based on your controlls so if you chose standard its X spam if you chose classic tenkaichi controlls its spin the stick
Oh, neat.
Bro sparking great analysis ⚡️💫⚡️
Hey hey. So, honestly completely new to Budokai as a series. I do plan on getting sparking when it comes out but, finding info on the actual mechanics is so hard because most people just want to play the game for the visuals. I have one big question, how does vanish work? I know the input but, does it work as a combo breaker? Or can you only really do it durring low hitstun situations? I'm just really curious.
Vanishing is a combo breaker, yes, unless you're playing Raging Blast 2. For any attack that's vanishable, it ends the combo if you manage to vanish it.
@@warhawk059377 And how tight is the window? Frames wise.
@@roguepenbot It goes by health, and the more health you have the more vanish frames you have, for some reason. I think if you have a regular character with 40k health, first bar is 4 frames, second bar is 3 frames, 3rd bar is 2 frames & your red bar is 1 frame.
@@warhawk059377 Oh that's weird. Hmm. Unfortunate that it's like that. I was really hoping this game wouldn't have super cheep combo breakers. Well, at least it won't be easy to hit a 2 frame window online. Do you think this will change for sparking?
@@roguepenbot Sparking Zero seems to have made it significantly easier.
yo can someone tell me what the difference is in the different editions and pre order stuff? Can I unlock the characters anyway without season pass from deluxe or buy season pass cheaper? And what is Ultimate Upgrade Pack & bonus?
Without season pass they will come as separate DLC for the game at some point. It just means you'll have to wait until they become available.
You are maybe too hyper focused on tenkaichi 3, I think some of these changes are better but obviously some are a strong change. It won't be the same game, you're not wrong.
I'm only focused on mechanics that contributed to BT3's longevity & bringing people back. I care & worry about SZ's longevity, irregardless of how much hype bigger RUclipsrs are giving it. I want it to be a great game that we can all enjoy for several years & even match BT3's currently-ongoing record. Or for the sake of this comment; match Xenoverse 2's longevity, at least. Can you blame me? 😛
@@warhawk059377 I can't blame you at all..!! I actually think you have the best viewpoint, just joined your disc as I think you will be the most hype to follow for this game.
Fortunately/Unfortunately, as someone who has played Bt3 for over 10 years, I just know the PC modding community will fix everything. Such a shame that won't be accessible for PS5/Xbox, it ultimately hurts the games longevity like you said... but those of us who ultimately love this game for the sandbox will EAT GOOD.
@@warhawk059377 As far as bringing people back, this game will do 100x better than Tenkaichi 3! Probably a thousand times, honestly. That has nothing to do with the quality of the game. That is why I care so little about the poor competitive balancing, it was never going to be perfect man. It is still a bandai namco game. This game will be the best DBZ experience of your life.
The game absolutely has unlimited potential to surpass BT3. Obviously whatever tech it has to offer won't be discovered on day one & I'm sure many people will find different things along the way, it's just a matter of whatever tech is discovered, being truly valuable for the casual & competitive aspects. Let's hope for the best.
really hope they get you out there next time or get us some kind of open beta soon. as awesome as things look so far it would be even better to see a pro behind the controller, so we can really see what this game is capable of.
loving the content and can't wait to see the uploads when the game drops!
I feel like we will get a network test at the very least considering they OPENLY STATED one of the MAIN focuses was online multiplayer.
I heard that on 21 July we will have it
Good breakdown
21:46 the best gimmick in the game so far
So i was watching nanogenix and when he fused gogeta had 4 life bars. I dont know why when ndukauba fused the health stayed at three bars. They are the aame demo build right?
I can go check it out before I get on w/ my day. I'm not subscribed to him though. Is it a new video or the one I used for analysis?
ruclips.net/video/Zqkw8neJPiQ/видео.html If it's from here (I don't see any other video), you're right, not only did Gogeta gain a health bar but the HUD did not show the switch/fusion panels either. Leads me to wonder if this fight was done w/ classic controls or modern controls, AND if this was a replay or not. Considering the Power Impact is in this & it showed square, I'm going to assume maybe this was classic controls. Back to your question though, it could be it's a newer build.
Idk if you’ll answer but does practicing in bt3 great for prep to be ahead in bt4 good?
Yes, it does!
I don’t really hate being able to ult after doing a super in full power mode.
It was kinda annoying in the old games when you’d waste a blast stock on accident by doing a normal super and losing the same amount of ki if you didn’t go into full power
Depending on what answers we have against Blast attacks, you might come to hate this. The biggest issue with this is that it becomes broken. We'll see what happens when the game launches though.
Yeah online you’re going to find broly dbs ultra instinct goku blue gogeta, hit, vegeto blue 😂😂😂 but I like how each characters have their own moves and animations
whats your overall thoughts on the movement speeds Hawk? Like the short dash and dragon dash do you think it can still be speedy and offer a lot of crazy movements like tenkaichi 3 or is it still something you worry about?
Short Dash is OK & looks like it will be the main source of movement. Dragon Dashes are now too slow unless they did that on purpose; Dragon Dash Cancels don't exist if the Dragon Homing isn't faster than the opponent when smashed away.
So, yes, still worried.
Everyone, be brutally honest and tell me if you've found more positives in SZ or concerning points outweigh the positive ones?
There's definitely more positive than negative. (:
The "negatives" which are mostly things that are missing, aren't necessarily BAD, it'll just be sad if they really are not in.
@@warhawk059377 yo, thanks for replying! Yeah, I totally understand and that's why I quoted "Bad points" as "Concerning points" but nonetheless, loved your analysis.
Hey hawk it looks like everyones snap vanish is different like in BT3. So it seems like momentum might be back. But aside from that how would feel about the timing being different? Would you want it to be the same for everyone like RB2?
How do you know everyone's timing is different & momentum is back?
I'd rather everyone have a different time & not universal like RB.
Watched all of the breakdown. The notable things i can see may pose an annoyance online is being able to use super attacks in sparking and doesnt get rid of sparking mode. I think the snap vanish, not sure of name (vegeta used it and covered a large distance). That may also be annoying. I didnt the perfect smash indicator color differences. Overall fantastic breakdown
The move Vegeta used is Vanishing Assault, it's a new mechanic they've added which seems like it can be used from anywhere. I'm actually curious as to whether or not it can be cancelled or at least used to make you intangible to evade a grab or Super at close range like the Perfect Smash in Tenkaichi 3 does.
Thanks, Makai. Glad you enjoyed it.
@@warhawk059377 oh gotcha. yea for sure cant wait for more of these
Nice to see you here
im glad im not the only one who thinks the short dash is far too slow. And the fact they said that the regular movement speed is faster than the regular dash in tenkaichi 3 just seems completely wrong which is something im worried about. i love the dash movement in tenkaichi 3 and was the one thing i had hoped they retained the most. The short dash I think will be better for close up fighting and will offer a lot of new fun mix ups but in the demo whenever the characters were really far from each other it felt like it took extra time for them to confront each other. Hopefully im wrong
Hey you were asking if someone used instant transmission so you could tell if stan barriers are in...i think there was a japanese gameplay if i remember correctly where somone uses gogeta to instant transmit i donr remember who he was fighting tho, i dont rememeber the vid, but hopes this helps.
Was it executed successfully? Was the opponent stopped? If you CAN locate the video, I'd be super grateful. Sunday I'll be streaming the VOD of Bandai's PvP stream, after that I'll be reviewing footage of any other gameplay I haven't seen & can find.
I notice that piccolo had his moves from mostly the saiyan saga I wonder like in raging blast 2 will they allow us to change character supers and ults 🤔 they be low key nice
It would be nice but we don't know yet if Super customization will be a feature.
@@warhawk059377 for sure like to see piccolos light grande and hell zone with these new graphics
I agree! I LOVE Hellzone Grenade. Definitely need to see it.
20:33 seems like a pretty harsh nerf tho. Like why should i fuse & lose 2 characters for basically 0 benefit aside from it being really cool
Because Dragon Ball... xd
It added a tiny bit of health but not as much as it used to
I have a question, is this possible: smashing your opponent away with a charged smash attack, then dragon rush behind them to knock them away again and to dragon rush behind them again -to stop there- and go into a normal combo again? I hope I could explain it a little.
What you explained was full power smash to Z Burst Dragon Smash, which is possible. The other half of that, you could Z Burst Dash to get behind, that's about it.
@@warhawk059377 Alright thanks :) What is about the bouncing off of the wall that worries you? I didn't quite get it. I'm not so technical with the terms.
@@Saiyan-Instinct In Tenkaichi 3, we have something called Stun Barriers which allow for Dragon Dash Cancels/Maneuvers etc to work (for example, you use a throw w/ Ssj3 Goku then you dash at an angle to get behind them & the opponent gets body blocked; Stun Barrier, it's the equivalent of hitting the wall), however we haven't seen any instance of it w/ the current SZ gameplay, and now knowing that the Dragon Homing has a universal speed across all characters (seemingly), it's very concerning. If I could see someone doing a full power smash w/ Goku Z End & then do Instant Transmission, it would be the easiest way to see if they've returned in the game.
It's not going to be terrible if SZ doesn't have them anymore, but... it definitely will be very disappointing & does not leave me much hope there will be dash tech in the game.
@@warhawk059377 Ahh I see thank you for the detailed explanation, I still hope that it is there though and I wish they would've invited you too.. well we just have to wait and see at this point. The thing is I personally rarely used them in BT3 but I can understand the dissapointment especially if it was used regularly by high level players like you. Btw, I've been a follower of your channel since waay back/your early days (I think since 2009) Keep up the good work. :)
@@Saiyan-Instinct 2009. You're an OG. Thank you so much for the longtime support. 🙏
Like if you are here after learning it's not a "gut punch" from globku's video
1:28:01 isn't that just Z-counter renamed to Super Counter because Dragon Ball Super?
Yes, like I said on 2 other posts it is indeed the ZC renamed. I was just too tired so my brain didn't compute that. I was really trying to get the video done so it could render. 😵💫
@@warhawk059377 Yeah no worries man. Great job breaking everything down, it's an incredibly informative video.
Thank you! 💙🙏😊
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Imma go on whim and. Say Super counter is just z counter renamed. It matches the input and description
It definitely is! My tired mind didn't compute that during recording.
What's the point of fusion mid battle if it dont add the other character's health?
That's a very good question. Raging Blast had this too but nobody ever questioned it. It might be due to a fusion character being much stronger overall. We'll see whence we get our hands on the game if there's a reason for it, I'm thinking it's because of the combat mechanics.
Im here from globku, be my sparking zero sensei 🙏
Thank you for taking the time to check me out & support. Gladly!
You should see Vandal's gameplay. CPU Trunks does a step-in into a second combo rush but with an additional attack like in Tenkaichi 3
I don't know who that is. What's their RUclips handle?
I also saw it on a Japanese clip
@@warhawk059377 Just search Vandal Sparking Zero, you should find his latest SZ video (from 7 days ago), the combo I'm talking about is at 2:36 of that video
Wow, you're right. I've seen the step-in but not the BT3 combo part. Nice catch & thank you for pointing it out to me. I'll add this video to my list of footage to go over during my next SZ stream. 😊
@@warhawk059377 When Trunks slashes down with his sword after the step-in, it looks like how it works in BT3
Beerus has 4 and half health bar and not 4 full health bar like Giant and Gogeta tho. Kinda weird cuz Beerus is supposed to be stronger than Gogeta but it is what it is
VERY good catch! I didn't notice that part about the health bar. That's interesting. I went back to Ndukauba's footage just to verify that.
Ground grabs?
Giant Throw returns!
whats the name of the megaman music?
I was listening to Megaman Battle Network music, it has BN OST from 1 through 6.
@@warhawk059377 Ty for the reply, what music do you use for your videos other than the BT3 OST the first one is pretty nice
I usually try to use whatever I think will fit, & from the various games I've played. For Dragon Ball breakdowns, BT2 OST usually feels good. For BT3 fights I go w/ BT2 OST, BlazBlue, Street Fighter & other game soundtracks depending on how good the fight is. I always try to use whatever I think fits the vibe.
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Look, I really like to see a professional player's comments about the combat so far, but I find it really funny when a bunch of them is "X thing is different/missing from BT3, that is EXTREMELY B A D." Almost like the game is trying to be a Remake from BT3, and not a sequel... I understand there may be a few issues with them changing some aspects of the combat that may open paths to some broken maneuvers, but them REMOVING some maneuvers is not a problem whatsoever. I mean, the combat is already 95% close to BT3, why should we be concerned if the rest 5% aren't the same? Let them be different games, please.
And this isn't meant to sound rude, but you really sounded to me like you, being a pro player of BT3, is more concerned with this game being "BT3 Part 2" rather than a "BT4". Lots of your critics are valid, tho. I hope they change some grab and flying kick animations, doesn't sound too difficult at all.
This is a great point indeed, though masterhawk sees all of this in a perspective most of us casual don't so... I dunno, I just respect the guy.
Let me begin my response by saying I was one of the first people who said that the game is going to be different both visually & gameplay-wise while other people were complaining. I'm one of the biggest advocates for that mainly because Tenkaichi 3 is an old game with an unexpectedly solid formula.
In no way am I expecting Sparking Zero to be Tenkaichi 3 "part 2" as you called it. The game has already been solidified as Tenkaichi 4.
That all being said, I have to point out one of your sentences here; "I understand there may be a few issues with them changing some aspects of the combat that may open paths to some *broken maneuvers*, but them *removing some maneuvers is not a problem whatsoever*". Now, allow me to clarify this.
- Changing aspects of the combat that may open paths to some broken maneuvers; the maneuver or whatever combat-involved mechanic that leads up to the maneuver, if it is *broken,* it is a problem. It's very rare, at least in arena fighters, and just DB for the moment, that a broken mechanic is beneficial to a video game's growth & longevity. Tenkaichi 2 for example, all of its advanced mechanics are technically considered broken, but it's also what makes the game so much more complicated & entertaining.
- REMOVING some maneuvers is not a problem; ordinarily, yes, you would be correct in saying it isn't a problem but if we take stun barriers & the current Dragon Dash speed as an example; if even one of those is gone, a very big percentage of Tenkaichi's essence, is gone. Combat in Tenkaichi 3 is not the biggest field in the game, it's also movement & ki blast techniques.
- Why should we be concerned if the rest 5% aren't the same; I wasn't initially going to respond to this one (no negative energy here, just didn't feel like I had to respond to this part, is all) but I think I should by saying, because casuals will get tired of the game sooner than later. Part of what made Tenkaichi 3 so great was its MASS depth mechanics. And unfortunately, without someone even reasonably experienced to play Sparking Zero, we have absolutely no clue what the game has to offer outside of the casual aspect except that one situation I found w/ Revenge Counter.
You're not sounding rude. Even if you were I'd address it without any animosity.
No, I'm not concerned w/ the game being BT3 "part 2", I'm just concerned about it retaining an ENORMOUS aspect of what made Tenkaichi so great, because let's face some reality here; NOBODY in North America decided to give BT3 a second look (most people didn't anyway) until Sparking Zero came into the picture. Up until this point, BT3 was nothing more than a childhood game to most where people would mash a couple of combos & Supers, and call it a day.
EVERYTHING that I've been pointing out is to *help the game's longevity for the developers, the casual aspect AND whatever it may have to offer for the competitive aspect*. I care more about Sparking Zero being a game *everyone* can enjoy for YEARS, rather than a game where people play it for around 2 years & then drop it for various reasons.
I hope this gives you some insight to understanding my thought process & standpoint.
Thank you! I really do hope they change them, too.
@@warhawk059377Sorry for being late to respond, I didn't get any notifications about your answer and didn't bother opening this video again, but here I am!
- First, I think you may have misunderstood my point about maneuvers: in no way I'm saying that having broken mechanics is good. I meant to say that changing the BT3 mechanics in a way that open paths to broken maneuvers IS (probably, unless it ends up being like in BT2 case) bad. What I DON'T think it's bad is them removing some of these high-level maneuvers, because the game will inevitably have new ones. How I look at it, it isn't a case where "Oh, they have removed these maneuvers, now the game lost it's depth!" But rather "Oh, these maneuvers are gone, but we have new ones... Let's explore these!". And I'm certain no one will figure these things out before the game properly launches (even because these things may very well change before release) and people have contact with it for a few weeks/months. English is not my mother-language, so it might've been miscommunication on my part.
- About the Dragon Dash speed, I think it still falls on my previous point: some aspects may change, but they won't invalidate the high-level gameplay. Rather, they'll only make old players adapt to these changes and formulate new strategies and maneuvers based on this new game's changes. Tenkaichi is a 19 years series at this point, I'm not complaning if the game's high level play changes completely as long as low and mid level stays the same. And we know that's the case with all the gameplay footage so far.
- Third point, again a misunderstoodment. You're taking those 5% being changed = removed. Like the whole competitive scene will be dead because those things were "removed" rather than "changed", just like Raging Blast did. While all I'm saying is that those 5% are being "renovated": they depth is still there, just in another way. And here's where my whole "You want this game to be BT3 Part 2" sentence goes: forgive me if this seems rude again, but it seems that you, being a long-time BT3 player, can't conceive the idea of the competitive scene being different because some things are different (like the Dragon Dash speed and stun barriers), ignoring that the game is fundamentally a different one, that's adding and changing lots of things. The competitive scene may not be based on the same fundamentals as BT3, but that's not a bad thing. I mean, we had 17 years to play BT3 at this point, might as well embrace the new game and adapt to it's combat in order to build a brand new competitive scene that, without nostalgia glasses, may be even better than what we have now? Or at least fun enough being something new to do after so many years.
- Well, for the last point, I figured that I should start by stating this: I'm not a North American. I'm a South American... Yeah, you probably know what that means. I didn't "play this game in my childhood": I played this game almost my whole life. Granted, I didn't go to tournaments or anything like that, and while I think I do fairly well in mid-level play (i.e someone who knows everything the game tells me, but not mechanic-exploits that most high-level players rely on), I'm sure I would be no match for someone like you who plays the game in fundamentally different ways than I do. But I'm certainly far from someone who only looks to BT3 as a shallow button-masher with flashy special moves, and I'm above 100% sure anyone that says this never bothered opening the combo list: that thing has everything you need to know for mid-level play and probably isn't lacking much, mechanically-wise, from high-level play.
I think that's mostly it. Even if all SZ had for it was everything that's said in the combo list and the tutorials, I still think the game's competitive scene would last as long as BT3 did. It is a brand-new game with brand-new graphics, mechanics, modes, characters, moves, everything. But even so, I'm still confident people will find things about the game after they properly play it that will allow the game to build it's own competitive scene, even if it doesn't share the same foundations as BT3. Again, as I said, I think it is way more important (specifically for this game) that it maintains it's core mechanics and up until mid-level play, or in other words, for it to stay the game those developers envisioned: a fun, casual game, that even if not having a proper balance among characters, has lots of depths to it's combat. It's not the button-masher people who only played it in their childhood pretend to, and it's not the competitive EVO game that some (not you!!!) wish for it to be, but instead something perfectly in the middle of these two things, and I think that's precisely where the Sparking! Series have found it's place to shine. Cheers from Brazil!
Man unless they make the right tweaks and changes this game is going to be a hot unbalanced mess lol…and one of the developers already praised how they want the game to be unbalanced so they’re putting emphasis on this game. Rushing attack supers can travel all the way across Snake Way and I just know the exploits people find in matches are going to be annoying online especially with that team switch out that is just crazy if they don’t change that. Somehow I’m a find some way to enjoy this game but man this gonna be a anticipated headache 😂
We have 4 months to go. Let's pray we get good & reasonable changes.
@@warhawk059377 4 months and I have Tylenol ready 😂
Unbalanced mess is why Budokai Tenkaichi is the most popula rDragon Ball game franchise though. I don't want balance touching my game with a ten foot pole ^^
@@RancorSnp There were things with even Tenkaichi games if we had the technology of today that game could’ve used something touch up….the nostalgia goggles gotta come off at some point none of those games were perfect and there are things with Sparking Zeros development that they can still clean up before it’s release it’s not even about post release patching it’s whats to come as they are making and presenting the game
@@c0wboys4life No no, I'm saying that lack of balance and concern for these things IS the appeal of the game for me, Budokai Tenkaichi series is the only dragon ball game franchise I care about. Of course I won't know how it plays until I play it myself, but again - this is what I enjoyed, what made me buy these games, I couldn't care less about competitive Dragon Ball games - the balance is ruining the fun. I actively WANT the game to be imbalanced so it's just stupid fun, and not yet another sweaty competitive arena fighter
I have a feeling some of the cancels and combos are gone
Let's hope not.
1:28:00 I'm surprised you did not know what that was. That's the Z-Counter, renamed to Super Counter (because we now have DBS and it sounds fitting I assume). Done by pressing Up+Square (⬆+🟪). And in my opinion, that's probably the most badass parry in all of gaming history. You can Z-Counter while down on the floor and for free! So OP and difficult to perform.
I still hope it is a frame-1 counter so it is hard to abuse. Also, it was modified in DBSZ and now it does not cause a vanishing struggle when performed. It now works they way it was supposed: as a parry. It pushes the opponent back.
Great video tho
My tired brain didn't compute it when I read it because I didn't properly look at the inputs after reading the description. I added it to my edited pinned comment. xd And thank you. 😊
EDIT: And yes, I agree. It now being a parry into a counterattack is great. I just wish it were a bit faster.
@@warhawk059377 Yes man. They could certainly speed up the animation of the Super Counter.
14:09 tbh this could be a broken mechanic, but at least you can’t switch whenever you want anymore, because if you look under there health bar there’s a switch thing or wtv (meaning that needs to be lit up so you can switch to a character)
There's a possibility this is that switch combo we saw in the skill list. It makes me wonder how big the window is for your character to spawn near the enemy; while the damage is still on screen? Before the hit counter disappears? It should be a factor related to those.