I bought a cp33 around a year ago. It's fed everything I've shot through it. The only time I've had problems is when I didn't pay attention and load the magazine correctly. Great and fun pistol.
The CP33 is extremely accurate. We've been having fun shooting it off the bench with a cheap 4X scope I had so I bought a 2.5-8X scope for it with quick release rings. That will allow me to shoot it as a plinker or as a bench rest long distance pistol. So far it's been amazingly reliable. The only malfunction was a single round of Federal Auto Match where they left the primer out of the cartridge. It had a strong primer strike so the pistol did its job. When I saw that Taurus announced a 16 shot 22 pistol at the 2019 SHOT Show I thought that was particularly bad timing given that Kel-Tec was announcing their 33 round 22 pistol. Talk about stealing someone's thunder. :-)
I have a CP33. Love it. I have added a Reflex Sight, a FS1913 Brace and a Fore Grip. Shooting the paper out of the Bullseye. Also picked up an American Speed Loader. An absolute must!
I put over 500 rounds thru my new TX-22 yesterday. Wow!!! That trigger reset is awesome!!!! I had ZERO PROBLEMS, of any kind. Not even a light strike, running Federal 550 bulk ammo. I'm highly impressed with this gun. I LOVE IT!!!!!
Great review. Makes me wonder how much the lack of feed ramp has to do with the chambering issues. Thanks for being so detailed on the review, it looks like I'll be a TX22 owner soon.
One year later from your video, and I've just purchased a brand new CP33 for 418.99 (current msrp on kel tec site is $504) from BDU. New ones are arriving each week for purchase, making me regret I didn't hold out for the olive green over the black I just purchased for my wife. Also, from Amazon I've ordered a speedloader from American Speedloaders for 34.99 and shipping. All said, for under 500 total, I'm thoroughly convinced we are going to have a lot of fun at the range when it all arrives! Thanks for a great video, very informative. Probably get the TX22 in the future for edc, as the cp33 IS a bit bulky.
Good review, thanks. I have had my eye on the Taurus since their reputation has been getting better lately, and I have seen them for $300.00 as you mentioned. That Series IV Ruger pistol keeps calling me for a hundred bucks more!
Had a keltec pmr 30 for 2 years, loved shooting it but never got it be reliable. Always shot cci 40 grain or hornady 45 grain. Had 4 mags, loàded by the book. Cleaned after ever shoot, lubed, grafite on mags but always had issues. No one wanted that gun to be dependable more than me but just couldn't trust it. Traded it for a tx22, have over 1200 rounds, all kinds, not one hiccup. Would trust my life on it, has become my favorite gun
Thanks calangle, glad yours is running well, lm jealous. Loved the PMR grip, trigger and especially the sights. Due to extreme arthritis in my wrist I've given up on anything but 22lr and 22mag. Those are the only ones I can practice with. Rather hit with a 22 than miss with a 9mm. Good shooting
@@stevebutler4250 yeah, I got it because my wife was having trouble hitting consistently with the 9mm, and I'd prefer her hit than miss. We did some drills a while back and she made me proud with the PMR 30.
Though I never thought I'd buy a Taurus, after all the reviews, I bought the TX22 today. As far as a holster to fit it ,my Clinger holsters for my Sig Sauer P320 Compact fit like they were meant for it.
Actually that was the Claridge Hi tec a sadly out of production gun that is on my wish list It also made a cameo on Iron Man 2 where Justin Hammer was showing different options to weaponize War Machine.
You had some great talking points on both, I will own the CP as soon as I can. Right now, I'm highly enjoying the TX22 and just love the grip ergo's and texture. If they do end up coming out with a "brace" for the CP, that would be a HUGE selling point. I am hoping to get my hands on one in the near future. Have a great weekend!
Been thinking about getting a .22LR pistol so I can introduce my friends to shooting. Wasn't really looking at Taurus...now I am. That TX22 is looking like my next purchase.
@@travistucker7904 I've considered that one too. I know looks aren't the most important thing, but I'd prefer a barrel that doesn't stick out from the end of the slide. I live in Illinois where suppressors are illegal, so there's no immediate need for that. Both have great reviews and few negatives. I don't think either would be a bad choice.
I have learned to not trust airsoft guns with aluminum slides converted into firearms (TX22). Picked up my CP33 last Wednesday, took it to the range on Saturday. 330 rounds of cheap Rem Thunderbolt - ZERO issues. Dead-accurate, light recoil and almost no muzzle jump. Fiber-optic sight are great. Designed and built by Americans for Americans.
@@jorgespat2651 still airsoft quality aluminum slide. It screams Cheap and Disposable. I paid only $100 more for my CP33 and it's much better gun. Steel bolt, fiber-optic sights, optics-ready, brace-ready, twice as large magazine.
I've never owned a kel-tec product. I've gone through several semi-autos 22s lookin for a perfect suppressor host. CCI standard velocity is what I usually use. Any thoughts?
Really good thorough review. I was wondering which one to get. Got both. Love em both. The CP33 is definitely the most fun. The Tx22 is more affordable and much easier to load and clean. I have a older lady friend who has arthritis and can't rack most guns. She can rack the Tx22 no problem, and uses it as a carry gun. ( not my choice for Carry but better than a sharp stick). TX22 has cycled every good/cheap ammo out there, including subsonic. CP33 a little more finicky, but not bad compared to some semiautomatic 22s. Thanks for review bud.
Was looking at grabbing a CP33 but when I started looking at reviews was seeing quite a few blowing up or really breaking so idk. Wish money wasn't that big of a thing so I could just get one and see lol but I really can't afford to "miss" on a gun I buy. Do you still have that cp33 and still working?
Eventually I'll get the CP33 but very happy with the Taurus. I also got some extra mags straight from Taurus and they shipped them quickly. More to come after I watch the rest.
Both Tandemkross and Lakeline make fiber optic front sights for the Taurus TX22 -- I got the Tandemkross for mine, will install it soon. Could it be that the TX22's accuracy would match the CP33's with a fiber optic sight?
Get both lol. I do really like the TX22 more though, especially for getting new shooters used to using a firearm. It's more of a traditional design and operates like a modern striker fired gun. The 16rd capacity also puts it in line with what you'll get from your typical compact 9mm handgun and it even has a rail for a light. The CP33 is a cool target gun though and the capacity is crazy. Put a red dot up there and this thing is going to be an absolutely laser gun.
I've got a TX22 and only have about 250 to 300 rounds through it. I shot three different kinds of ammo: SK Pistol Match Special, Aguila Super Extra CPHV and bulk Federal Champion CPHV. I love the full size grip, the trigger is great and reset is short, it's super light, accurate and has good form and function. It's fun and easy to shoot, I got it at a good price even with the price gouging during the pandemic. I love it and look forward to ammo prices dropping again so I can shoot to my heart's content
Man that was an awesome review. Have really wanted the TX22 Mainly because its a true striker fire. But the kel tec has a lot of advantages also so for now I am getting the TX22 mostly for s.f. and price. Then let kel tec have a chance to build up supply possibly come down a tad and then jump on that baby. Subed.
I got an unsafe feeling at 14:13 and was wondering about the subsequent trigger pull. I thought I wanted the CP33 until my local gun store got one in stock and everybody struggled at loading the mag. Rim locks seemed all too easy. That took all the fun out of the gun for me.
I like then both.. my local gun shop has them both...but the deal breaker for me is the CP33 magazine. The TX22 will be what I'm going with. If they come out with better magazines for the CP33 I might pick it up later on down the road.
Never shot the Taurus, but I love my CP33. It runs great with cheap 22 Thunderbolt. It turns as many heads at the range due to its accuracy as its appearance. Lots of fun to shoot. Mags are not difficult to load, the only trick is to push the previous round to the back before loading the next.
Still waiting to see a CP33 around here with three big gun shops, including Bud's in the immediate area. TX22 is $299.99 here. I have version 2 of the PMR30. It works flawlessly and really like it so I'm looking to try the CP33.
Was going to buy a TX-22 but can't find one for less than $299. Ended up going with what I could find. CP-33 $559. Borrowed a friend's tx-22 and the only thing better is the grip, it's amazing. They have a speed loader for the mags now in the 33 and it works great. Have had 0 problems with it, even first round loading. Only filling the mag to 30-32.
TX22 will be one of my next buys. More practical for my needs as a training gun for my 11 year old son. We have a small 22 revolver but reloading of course sucks.
Really good review. Tipped me over to the Taurus. The 33 round mag is not that attractive. My pmr 30, even after factory repair, still has problems with more than 20 rounds. Besides, if you load two 16 round mags aren’t you ending up the same anyway?
CP33 with double the capacity of the Taurus. Also much tighter groups. These two guns aren’t in the same category. CP33 is supressable, has a rail for optics, target sights, greater sight radius, can be brace mounted but isn’t a carry gun. The Taurus is a gun you could holster like any other handgun. The CP33 is kind of a sub gun wannabe and about the only thing these guns have in common is they both shoot 22.
Fantastic review but now I’m all confused. I was planning on getting the CP33 from the moment I first read about it. Now I’m not so sure. Due to arthritis in my wife’s hands the TX22 would be much easier to load and probably shoot ergonomically. Probably will go with the TX22. Appreciate the review very much.
I purchased a Auto Loader for Mine from "LUDEX" and this is a must for loading those 33n round magazines and I also purchased a 17 round extension for another magazine and I now have a 50 round magazine! I have had No Malfunctions at all for almost 1000 rounds and all my magazines load perfectly without a flaw!
If you are worried about availability, skip these two and go with the Ruger Charger. Reliable with all kinds of ammo: check Threaded barrel: check Higher cap. than standard 10rd 22 cal handgun mags: check (BX 15 & 25) and with an adapter from MAC's website, the ability to mount a pistol brace and to turn it into a .... better pistol
My son has the Keltec and I bought my wife the TX22, Both are accurate and dependable. What more could you ask for? The price point on the Taurus is the deal maker. Sweet pistola!
Very good and thorough review. As one or two folks commented this is not exactly apples to apples, I mean NO disrespect.The CP-33 stands for Competition Pistol and 33 rounds. Any time a competition firearm is designated as such, the tolerances are much tighter and 99.9 % of the time are fairly picky eaters thus they holding tighter groups. I am an accuracy nut so I don’t mind finding what my girl enjoys eating which if you feed any lady right she will treat you right.
The Keltec looks like the station wagon of guns. The CP33 has Cool design, but I'd prefer it in a higher caliber. Reminds me of AR pistol without a mag well. That's why I give it to the Taurus. Taurus did a great job with the TX
so i have the sub2k and the ksg also the Taurus judge and the taurus pt111g2 ! i really love both companies however keltec can be hard to obtain certain firearms, i have to say that cp33 looks pretty sexy
I owned a kel pmr-30 and I had a lot of trouble loading the mag even with instructions 🤣. I was going to ask somebody in the gun store if there was the loading procedure with the cp33 just to avoid a headache like such
Kel tec is more a target pistol " kel tec comes out with some interesting stuff I like it but will not get one just yet usually something needs working out on new models nice review thanks
I’m On the fence between buying the Taurus TX22 and a Ruger Mark IV standard....want something light, easy to clean, reliable. Had a Kel Tec PMR, grip too big for me, sold it. All suggestions appreciated. Shoot straight, Be Well...
I have both 22/45... Which I love. But this Taurus looks pretty cool as a traditional firearm. And the magazine count would be a lot more fun than swapping out 10-round mags. I'm considering buying it here soon.. didn't think I'd buy another 22, or need another 20 to besides the river. I did have an Sr 22. Which was good initially I got tired of it. Kind of small and finicky after a while
I had to wait until the second generation of the sub 2000 came out before I could find one. Love the 2000!!!! I still don't have my su16c yet. Kel tec is slow to get their product to market. I can't imagine this to change for a while.
I have the CP33 and it won't feed hollow points. I wish the reassembly was a little easier, getting everything properly aligned and in the proper groove is hard to do quickly. There is always the possibility of losing the pin too.
That 33 rounds sounds very appeasing I might say lol but I love my tx22 I went back to the store to second guess if I got the right 22 for me and although I’d like something smaller I think it’s perfect
I bought a used taurus 380 the extractor broke on it I finally had to send it in to the gun company they didn’t make those pistols anymore or parts for them they sent me a brand new 9mm G2 I was so excited And couldn’t believe it the most accurate shooting 9mm I have ever had I would go with the Taurus just because they stand behind their product so well and if you have any problems you can’t get it fixed they will send you a brand new gun better than the one you have
Haven’t shot the cp33 but I own the Taurus tx22 and man it is a very fun and reliable cheap 22lr pistol it’s small than the cp so it would suit carry better if you perfer
I own them both, which is why I watched the video. Both are reliable and good shooters. You do really need the loader for the CP33 and then it's super reliable. I would agree the Kel Tec is more accurate. Both pistols are completely different and fulfill different missions. I love them both
Another point that could be brought up on the 2 is actual cleanup of the guns. I can go ahead and tell ya the Taurus would with that out. Shooting suppressed just chokes a gun so much forcing all of that gas and debris back into the action. My M&P22c suffers from this with a can. It also suffers from the poor rifling like so many other 22c that S&W has cranked out. Mine has leaded so bad it has cause tumbling issues. And it’s extremely hard to clean a 22c with its fixed barrel in the dip. With the Taurus you can pop it out and drop it in the dip. That is if the barrel is made out of an appropriate steel.
I have the TX22and would like the CP33 but the places that have the CP33 want $600 for it and MSRP is $475. But who knows how long I will have to wait since Kal Tec is so slow at Mfg. Getting old and health is not good. Hope I live long enough to get one.
The that long weird bit on the CP33 means your brace will reach a bit better and clear your hand better on the grip. It also means you have a very long sight radius. *cough* CP33 can hold 50 rounds with a cheap mag upgrade. Also 22plinkster reviewed this gun and had good things to shoot and he's a CCI guy....I suspect there was a finishment issue with something in your mag perhaps?
I bought a cp33 around a year ago. It's fed everything I've shot through it. The only time I've had problems is when I didn't pay attention and load the magazine correctly. Great and fun pistol.
The CP33 is extremely accurate. We've been having fun shooting it off the bench with a cheap 4X scope I had so I bought a 2.5-8X scope for it with quick release rings. That will allow me to shoot it as a plinker or as a bench rest long distance pistol. So far it's been amazingly reliable. The only malfunction was a single round of Federal Auto Match where they left the primer out of the cartridge. It had a strong primer strike so the pistol did its job.
When I saw that Taurus announced a 16 shot 22 pistol at the 2019 SHOT Show I thought that was particularly bad timing given that Kel-Tec was announcing their 33 round 22 pistol. Talk about stealing someone's thunder. :-)
I have a CP33. Love it. I have added a Reflex Sight, a FS1913 Brace and a Fore Grip. Shooting the paper out of the Bullseye. Also picked up an American Speed Loader. An absolute must!
that was one of the best reviews I've ever seen. I went with the tx22 and i'm happy.
Really solid review of both pistols. Great work G&A!
I've been considering the TX22. I like your comparison and will most likely get the TX22.
I put over 500 rounds thru my new TX-22 yesterday. Wow!!! That trigger reset is awesome!!!! I had ZERO PROBLEMS, of any kind. Not even a light strike, running Federal 550 bulk ammo. I'm highly impressed with this gun. I LOVE IT!!!!!
It is a great handgun. Thanks for watching!
Great review. Makes me wonder how much the lack of feed ramp has to do with the chambering issues. Thanks for being so detailed on the review, it looks like I'll be a TX22 owner soon.
I imagine without ramp it won't be able to shoot reliably hollow point ammunition
WHAT are you Talking About????? Do some research before making these stupid remarks!
Both are on my short list this year. Great comparison video!
Objective to a point. Scientific, thorough, concise and informative. Well done.
agree, guns and accessories has many videos out there and they are all done very well, informative, and useful. KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS.
Thanks for these .22 comparisons. Been very helpful
One year later from your video, and I've just purchased a brand new CP33 for 418.99 (current msrp on kel tec site is $504) from BDU. New ones are arriving each week for purchase, making me regret I didn't hold out for the olive green over the black I just purchased for my wife. Also, from Amazon I've ordered a speedloader from American Speedloaders for 34.99 and shipping. All said, for under 500 total, I'm thoroughly convinced we are going to have a lot of fun at the range when it all arrives! Thanks for a great video, very informative. Probably get the TX22 in the future for edc, as the cp33 IS a bit bulky.
Kinda seems like the CP33 is designed with a carbine conversion kit in mind.
Not exactly - it uses the same frame as the PMR-30 and CMR-30.
Agreed! The thing is begging to be braced
There's a brace adapter already for sale by some companies
love to see a barrel company offering maybe 9" , 11 " , ? barrels for sale for both the CP and PMR .
Yeah it needs a stick mag and an F/A switch
Great video. TX22 I bought one from sportsman outdoors for $280 with no tax and free shipping. I can’t wait to get it.
Hey do you still like the tx22?
Just bought a tx22 and absolutely impressed how it performed
Great review Thanks !! Very happy I went with the TX22 !!
i read/watched 5 other reviews on tgis gun. you are the only one who spoke well to accuracy which for this gun is particularly important.
Good review, thanks. I have had my eye on the Taurus since their reputation has been getting better lately, and I have seen them for $300.00 as you mentioned. That Series IV Ruger pistol keeps calling me for a hundred bucks more!
tx22 $50 rebate if purchased before 9/30/19.
I’ve got the PMR 30 and CP33 love them both. Plus got the Ruger MK3 and the SR22 lol love them all.
Had a keltec pmr 30 for 2 years, loved shooting it but never got it be reliable. Always shot cci 40 grain or hornady 45 grain. Had 4 mags, loàded by the book. Cleaned after ever shoot, lubed, grafite on mags but always had issues. No one wanted that gun to be dependable more than me but just couldn't trust it. Traded it for a tx22, have over 1200 rounds, all kinds, not one hiccup. Would trust my life on it, has become my favorite gun
Sorry about that. Mine has become 100% reliable after a few quick fixes. It's great once you get the reliability taken care of.
Thanks calangle, glad yours is running well, lm jealous. Loved the PMR grip, trigger and especially the sights. Due to extreme arthritis in my wrist I've given up on anything but 22lr and 22mag. Those are the only ones I can practice with. Rather hit with a 22 than miss with a 9mm. Good shooting
@@stevebutler4250 yeah, I got it because my wife was having trouble hitting consistently with the 9mm, and I'd prefer her hit than miss. We did some drills a while back and she made me proud with the PMR 30.
Though I never thought I'd buy a Taurus, after all the reviews, I bought the TX22 today. As far as a holster to fit it ,my Clinger holsters for my Sig Sauer P320 Compact fit like they were meant for it.
The Keltec CP 33 looks like the pistol on Total Recall .
Keltec CP 33 looks like a paintball gun.
I was thinking Robocop's sidearm.
Keltec absolutely takes inspiration from Paul Veerhoven movies for everything they make.
Actually that was the Claridge Hi tec a sadly out of production gun that is on my wish list
It also made a cameo on Iron Man 2 where Justin Hammer was showing different options to weaponize War Machine.
I think the original Robocop gun was a Beretta
You had some great talking points on both, I will own the CP as soon as I can. Right now, I'm highly enjoying the TX22 and just love the grip ergo's and texture. If they do end up coming out with a "brace" for the CP, that would be a HUGE selling point. I am hoping to get my hands on one in the near future. Have a great weekend!
Dont bother. Just cheek the cp-33. Save yourself the money and still gain the accuracy
4:09 That's a Stanley Fatmax, very tactical choice of tape measure.
Been thinking about getting a .22LR pistol so I can introduce my friends to shooting. Wasn't really looking at Taurus...now I am. That TX22 is looking like my next purchase.
Ruger SR22 is unbelievable. But get what you want
@@travistucker7904 I've considered that one too. I know looks aren't the most important thing, but I'd prefer a barrel that doesn't stick out from the end of the slide. I live in Illinois where suppressors are illegal, so there's no immediate need for that. Both have great reviews and few negatives. I don't think either would be a bad choice.
I have both guns and this video is so on point...thanks!!
Hey G&A. Thanks for an excellent review. You made it an easy decision. Gotta have both. : (
I have learned to not trust airsoft guns with aluminum slides converted into firearms (TX22). Picked up my CP33 last Wednesday, took it to the range on Saturday. 330 rounds of cheap Rem Thunderbolt - ZERO issues. Dead-accurate, light recoil and almost no muzzle jump. Fiber-optic sight are great. Designed and built by Americans for Americans.
And there is no way that Taurus can beat outstanding Kel-Tec warranty and customer service!
The TX22 is also engineered by an American for the US market 😄 if you watch their release video, his name is Jason Pittman.
@@jorgespat2651 still airsoft quality aluminum slide. It screams Cheap and Disposable. I paid only $100 more for my CP33 and it's much better gun. Steel bolt, fiber-optic sights, optics-ready, brace-ready, twice as large magazine.
I've never owned a kel-tec product. I've gone through several semi-autos 22s lookin for a perfect suppressor host. CCI standard velocity is what I usually use. Any thoughts?
No specification for ammo you can use is f****** huge, good video man I think I'm going to go with the Taurus
That's the wrong decision. That's a mistake.
Really good thorough review. I was wondering which one to get. Got both. Love em both. The CP33 is definitely the most fun. The Tx22 is more affordable and much easier to load and clean. I have a older lady friend who has arthritis and can't rack most guns. She can rack the Tx22 no problem, and uses it as a carry gun. ( not my choice for Carry but better than a sharp stick). TX22 has cycled every good/cheap ammo out there, including subsonic. CP33 a little more finicky, but not bad compared to some semiautomatic 22s. Thanks for review bud.
Great review, very thorough.
Excellent Review - all areas covered.
Great, thorough comparison. Held the Keltec earlier today and it truly felt like a toy (quality).
Was looking at grabbing a CP33 but when I started looking at reviews was seeing quite a few blowing up or really breaking so idk. Wish money wasn't that big of a thing so I could just get one and see lol but I really can't afford to "miss" on a gun I buy. Do you still have that cp33 and still working?
Eventually I'll get the CP33 but very happy with the Taurus. I also got some extra mags straight from Taurus and they shipped them quickly. More to come after I watch the rest.
I have both of these and he's totally right on point with this total review trust every wood in this video!
LMFAO
Both Tandemkross and Lakeline make fiber optic front sights for the Taurus TX22 -- I got the Tandemkross for mine, will install it soon. Could it be that the TX22's accuracy would match the CP33's with a fiber optic sight?
We have the tx22, and after a couple trips to the club I have to say it's hard to beat. I've never seen a gun cycle brass faster without failures.
Say it again after you try CP-33!
I'm sure it's just as nice. I'll stick with the tx.
@@bassgrove1 I wish TX had real steel slide, not airsoft aluminum one.
My wife's pt92 is one of the best in our collection so far. I would take the taurus hands down.
Get both lol. I do really like the TX22 more though, especially for getting new shooters used to using a firearm. It's more of a traditional design and operates like a modern striker fired gun. The 16rd capacity also puts it in line with what you'll get from your typical compact 9mm handgun and it even has a rail for a light. The CP33 is a cool target gun though and the capacity is crazy. Put a red dot up there and this thing is going to be an absolutely laser gun.
I've got a TX22 and only have about 250 to 300 rounds through it. I shot three different kinds of ammo: SK Pistol Match Special, Aguila Super Extra CPHV and bulk Federal Champion CPHV. I love the full size grip, the trigger is great and reset is short, it's super light, accurate and has good form and function. It's fun and easy to shoot, I got it at a good price even with the price gouging during the pandemic. I love it and look forward to ammo prices dropping again so I can shoot to my heart's content
Man that was an awesome review. Have really wanted the TX22 Mainly because its a true striker fire. But the kel tec has a lot of advantages also so for now I am getting the TX22 mostly for s.f. and price. Then let kel tec have a chance to build up supply possibly come down a tad and then jump on that baby. Subed.
I got an unsafe feeling at 14:13 and was wondering about the subsequent trigger pull. I thought I wanted the CP33 until my local gun store got one in stock and everybody struggled at loading the mag. Rim locks seemed all too easy. That took all the fun out of the gun for me.
Didn't a shell eject out of the keltec at 14:13? why didn't it go off you pulled the trigger?
I like then both.. my local gun shop has them both...but the deal breaker for me is the CP33 magazine. The TX22 will be what I'm going with. If they come out with better magazines for the CP33 I might pick it up later on down the road.
where is your gun store located? I can't find the cp33 anywhere. thanks
Great deeper analysis
Never shot the Taurus, but I love my CP33. It runs great with cheap 22 Thunderbolt. It turns as many heads at the range due to its accuracy as its appearance. Lots of fun to shoot. Mags are not difficult to load, the only trick is to push the previous round to the back before loading the next.
Still waiting to see a CP33 around here with three big gun shops, including Bud's in the immediate area. TX22 is $299.99 here.
I have version 2 of the PMR30. It works flawlessly and really like it so I'm looking to try the CP33.
I love my CP33! 330 rds of Rem Thunderbolt and zero issues.
I don't trust firearms with airsoft quality aluminum slides, like TX22.
@@surevaliance9470 I've had two(slow learner) and Taurus is a four letter word to me.
have u tried a cci stinger? a cci velocitor? just curious as the maxi mag didnt fit ...
Great comparison! Cp33 is $600 on gunbroker...crazy! Taurus is already close to $200 and available lots of places. Thanks for the info
Was going to buy a TX-22 but can't find one for less than $299. Ended up going with what I could find. CP-33 $559. Borrowed a friend's tx-22 and the only thing better is the grip, it's amazing.
They have a speed loader for the mags now in the 33 and it works great. Have had 0 problems with it, even first round loading. Only filling the mag to 30-32.
I got the taurus , very pleased, 500 rnds or so & only had 2 ftf. Was using rem. Golden bullet failure to ignite with clear indentation on the rim
Great review, enjoyed watching.
TX22 will be one of my next buys. More practical for my needs as a training gun for my 11 year old son. We have a small 22 revolver but reloading of course sucks.
Great video and channel, just subbed!
Great detailed and unbiased review! Thanks!!
Thank you!
Really good review. Tipped me over to the Taurus. The 33 round mag is not that attractive. My pmr 30, even after factory repair, still has problems with more than 20 rounds. Besides, if you load two 16 round mags aren’t you ending up the same anyway?
my local gun store got one a few days ago. now I just need to get a couple of the 50 round clips
The magazines
CP33 with double the capacity of the Taurus. Also much tighter groups.
These two guns aren’t in the same category. CP33 is supressable, has a rail for optics, target sights, greater sight radius, can be brace mounted but isn’t a carry gun.
The Taurus is a gun you could holster like any other handgun.
The CP33 is kind of a sub gun wannabe and about the only thing these guns have in common is they both shoot 22.
Fantastic review but now I’m all confused. I was planning on getting the CP33 from the moment I first read about it. Now I’m not so sure. Due to arthritis in my wife’s hands the TX22 would be much easier to load and probably shoot ergonomically. Probably will go with the TX22. Appreciate the review very much.
My wife has RA and she likes the Canik SFX. I'm getting her that TX and see if she likes it better.
I purchased a Auto Loader for Mine from "LUDEX" and this is a must for loading those 33n round magazines and I also purchased a 17 round extension for another magazine and I now have a 50 round magazine! I have had No Malfunctions at all for almost 1000 rounds and all my magazines load perfectly without a flaw!
I will be on the look out for a couple of CP-33s
If you are worried about availability, skip these two and go with the Ruger Charger.
Reliable with all kinds of ammo: check
Threaded barrel: check
Higher cap. than standard 10rd 22 cal handgun mags: check (BX 15 & 25)
and with an adapter from MAC's website, the ability to mount a pistol brace and to turn it into a .... better pistol
And a binary trigger for added fun.
My son has the Keltec and I bought my wife the TX22, Both are accurate and dependable. What more could you ask for? The price point on the Taurus is the deal maker. Sweet pistola!
Very good and thorough review. As one or two folks commented this is not exactly apples to apples, I mean NO disrespect.The CP-33 stands for Competition Pistol and 33 rounds. Any time a competition firearm is designated as such, the tolerances are much tighter and 99.9 % of the time are fairly picky eaters thus they holding tighter groups. I am an accuracy nut so I don’t mind finding what my girl enjoys eating which if you feed any lady right she will treat you right.
Keltec says they are going to ramp up production . . . where have I heard that before?
germany in the 1940s
LMAO!
The Keltec looks like the station wagon of guns.
The CP33 has Cool design, but I'd prefer it in a higher caliber. Reminds me of AR pistol without a mag well. That's why I give it to the Taurus. Taurus did a great job with the TX
station wagon of guns, lol. thx of that.
Disaster Vloggers I laughed out loud
A Chevy Suburban is a station wagon as are all SUV's. Just a matter of marketing.
so i have the sub2k and the ksg also the Taurus judge and the taurus pt111g2 ! i really love both companies however keltec can be hard to obtain certain firearms, i have to say that cp33 looks pretty sexy
I owned a kel pmr-30 and I had a lot of trouble loading the mag even with instructions 🤣. I was going to ask somebody in the gun store if there was the loading procedure with the cp33 just to avoid a headache like such
That Taurus looks dope!!! Looks just like that elusive steyr 9mm, & i wouldnt touch that keltec unless a brace came with it.
Both! But would like to see the TX22 in a long slide version. My Walther has the 5" barrel and to me that is the minimum size for 22LR
The length of the tx22 is why I got it instead. It keeps the rounds sub sonic due to it being too short. So with a can its Hollywood quiet
@@freedomgunsandliberty to each their own. Plus I don't have a can so it's not an issue with me.
Really wanted the Walther ppq 22 but no go in ny because it has a threaded bbl.
@@michaelmoonitz8211 not all of them do. It's an option on the p22
How much is a keltec pistols I will start the process of getting my conceal carry
If they come out with a cp33 brace it would make more sense as a SMG style weapon.
Its in the works
Sbr?
Brace or stock+suppressor=sweetness
Kel tec is more a target pistol " kel tec comes out with some interesting stuff I like it but will not get one just yet usually something needs working out on new models nice review thanks
I’m On the fence between buying the Taurus TX22 and a Ruger Mark IV standard....want something light, easy to clean, reliable. Had a Kel Tec PMR, grip too big for me, sold it. All suggestions appreciated.
Shoot straight, Be Well...
I have both 22/45... Which I love. But this Taurus looks pretty cool as a traditional firearm. And the magazine count would be a lot more fun than swapping out 10-round mags. I'm considering buying it here soon.. didn't think I'd buy another 22, or need another 20 to besides the river. I did have an Sr 22. Which was good initially I got tired of it. Kind of small and finicky after a while
miragexl007 thanks for your two cents worth. Hard to say no to 16 round mags but hard yo say Yes to Taurus...
I have the Taurus and love it.
I'm leaning towards the Taurus TX22 to go with my GSG-16.
Both . Great video now I need too go out buy both thanks again for a great video, keep up the hard work
I bought a brand new ksg and it failed to extract crimped end shells. No more keltec for me
Tony Cripe I had that happen initially on rdb. I adjusted gas to plus six and used PMC rounds. No problems
I currently have both!
because of the price difference and the difference in size it would be the Taurus for me. Also the Taurus would be a good training pistol.
I had to wait until the second generation of the sub 2000 came out before I could find one. Love the 2000!!!! I still don't have my su16c yet. Kel tec is slow to get their product to market. I can't imagine this to change for a while.
I have the CP33 and it won't feed hollow points. I wish the reassembly was a little easier, getting everything properly aligned and in the proper groove is hard to do quickly. There is always the possibility of losing the pin too.
I want that Taurus. It sounds more reliable and it's cheaper. Sold.
I have both of these sweet firing machine, 22LR ammo should be the next world currency.
Does the Taurus really have aluminum slide rails? O_o
Wow very thorough review. Both are cool. That cp33 grip like holding a 2x4 huh? Lol
I like them both . I only bought the CP33 .
That 33 rounds sounds very appeasing I might say lol but I love my tx22 I went back to the store to second guess if I got the right 22 for me and although I’d like something smaller I think it’s perfect
I bought a used taurus 380 the extractor broke on it I finally had to send it in to the gun company they didn’t make those pistols anymore or parts for them they sent me a brand new 9mm G2 I was so excited And couldn’t believe it the most accurate shooting 9mm I have ever had I would go with the Taurus just because they stand behind their product so well and if you have any problems you can’t get it fixed they will send you a brand new gun better than the one you have
CP33, but I will wait a couple of years.
It's a kel tec, man. You won't be able to find one in a couple years. They only make 12 of each gun
P17 is for me.
@@crazeeaz Lol!
Just bought a CP33 at my gun shop I buy from alot at paid 370 for it couldn't turn it down ausome pistol
Love my CP33!!👍😎👍
Both are on my list of to purchase, but I'm going to wait until prices become reasonable, and both have been out a while so many bugs get worked out.
Quite a review!
I have the cp33 And gonna get the tx22... Why not..?
Haven’t shot the cp33 but I own the Taurus tx22 and man it is a very fun and reliable cheap 22lr pistol it’s small than the cp so it would suit carry better if you perfer
@@littlegremlin4760 I have them both and I love them both.. In fact may change my every day carry to the Taurus tx22 as I really shoot it well.
Carry the Cp33 everyday as a truck gun, 33rd mag beats anything.
Going to get the TX22
Magazine tension on cp is probably because there no feed ramp,also sorry for blowing up ur comments lol ill give u a sub!
I own them both, which is why I watched the video. Both are reliable and good shooters. You do really need the loader for the CP33 and then it's super reliable. I would agree the Kel Tec is more accurate. Both pistols are completely different and fulfill different missions. I love them both
Another point that could be brought up on the 2 is actual cleanup of the guns. I can go ahead and tell ya the Taurus would with that out. Shooting suppressed just chokes a gun so much forcing all of that gas and debris back into the action. My M&P22c suffers from this with a can. It also suffers from the poor rifling like so many other 22c that S&W has cranked out. Mine has leaded so bad it has cause tumbling issues. And it’s extremely hard to clean a 22c with its fixed barrel in the dip. With the Taurus you can pop it out and drop it in the dip. That is if the barrel is made out of an appropriate steel.
Which sounds quieter suppressed?
I have the TX22and would like the CP33 but the places that have the CP33 want $600 for it and MSRP is $475. But who knows how long I will have to wait since Kal Tec is so slow at Mfg. Getting old and health is not good. Hope I live long enough to get one.
The that long weird bit on the CP33 means your brace will reach a bit better and clear your hand better on the grip. It also means you have a very long sight radius. *cough* CP33 can hold 50 rounds with a cheap mag upgrade. Also 22plinkster reviewed this gun and had good things to shoot and he's a CCI guy....I suspect there was a finishment issue with something in your mag perhaps?