A 3 yr old, 15 month old, and baby on way in January. I think the Carnival is probably the most practical choice for us and any road trips. We could probably get by with the Telluride, but in and out, cargo space, etc, Carnival probably better option for us.
Wow! Congratulations, and also... Do you sleep? As far as helping you choose a vehicle, my advice to you is never as good as your observations in person, but in general, with kids that young, you're going to have a lot of stuff. In my experience, I'm happiest when I can easily fit everything that I need into the vehicle without having to play tetris at every stop to find the one thing that I need. If I were you, the Carnival would sit above the Telluride if my goal was peace and simplicity when I travel, but if you prefer the Telluride, definitely buy that. You should never regret your purchase. Buy with your head, and your heart. :)
Keep it up. You are my new favorite for kia car info. I think dealerships should have to watch your video's for vehicle details instead of kia university etc.
Exactly! I think you can easily drive home in the Carnival and be happy with what you get. Not everyone wants a minivan, but if you're going to get one, it should have great, class-leading features, and the Carnival does that. Honestly, I think I'd choose the Carnival SX for my family of four over the Telluride.... but as I type that, I remember that my family likes to head off-road on vacation, and the Telluride is capable there... so it's a tough one!
@@BrantfordKia can you tell me where I would find the menu to turn on the wireless charging. I tried it when I picked up Telluride yesterday and it wouldn't charge.
@@80shaner Great question. Go to the SETTINGS, then go to CONVENIENCE, then look for the checkbox that says something about "Wireless Charging System" or some very similar wording. Make sure the check box is clicked, and then it should work... now, the other reason that it won't work is if the doors are open. You need to make sure ALL the doors are shut, and wait a second or two, before it will come to life and work. Also make sure that your phone doesn't have too thick of a case. Some phone cases won't allow wireless charging to work.
Kia Carnival would be nice for baseball families. Teens and parents would love the second row seats while waiting hours between games or traveling to tournaments.
Thanks Peter for this interesting review episode! To me, both are great for different lifestyles and personal relatable "identities". Both have similar features but kind of like comparing oranges to grapefruits (one's bigger lol). I personally prefer the versatility of an AWD system...but hypothetically if the Carnival has AWD, I'd still prefer the SHAPE and the towing power of the Telluride...so I'm not sure if extra gadgets/features would win me over to buy the mini VAN (I know Kia wants to villainize the word...but it's STILL is a minivan and there's nothing wrong with it esp. for the customers who NEED a people/cargo mover)! At the end of the day, people need to make sure the vehicle can FIT their need....AND their driveway! p.s. As a driver, I'd never get to enjoy the "Lazy Boy" chairs, but I'd BUY the Carnival if the SX has 1) AWD, 2) a MASSAGEING feature for MY driver seat, and 3) if the price is still less than the Telluride :)
Yeah, I think what's interesting to me is that the Telluride is our multi-award-winning, high-tech, luxurious model, and in many ways, the Carnival is better! There are some people who will NEVER cross-shop these two, but I think many will now consider the Carnival who never considered the Telluride. We had a number of Sedona buyers who LOVED the Telluride but needed the Sedona Now we've got something intriguing that they can claim has features that even the Telluride doesn't have.
Fantastic Video Peter. Thank you. As a Canadian Driver, would you lean towards the AWD(telluride) over the FWD (Carnival) in the snow? I have driven both kinds on different vehicles but never on longer vehicles so not sure if it truly makes a significant difference? Would the Carnival spin lose traction a lot easier?
I think I would make my decision based on my overall needs. In poor conditions, the Carnival with winter tires would brake and steer better than a Telluride with AWD and all-season tires. So in my mind, I would choose your favourite vehicle. This would be a tough decision for me. I might be willing to sacrifice some winter traction to gain the space and features of the Carnival, but that's because we don't have a whole lot of terrible weather days here. Flip side is, when I go camping, I often head down poor roads with mud and dips, and loose gravel, and in those cases the AWD would be helpful. I expect both cars to be very good in the winter, so in my mind, if you pick the vehicle that's best for you, I think you'll be making the best decision. If you face a lot of really bad weather (northern Ontario etc,) then I can see how the Telluride may be a necessity, but if you're in the GTA, neither vehicle is going to be stranded in our typical weather.
Yeah! If you don't need AWD, I find it hard to beat the Carnival, and I'm saying that knowing that the Telluride has won just about every award that the vehicle has been entered in. These are two GREAT vehicles!
I could do that, but ground clearance is often easily found online, and me measuring from the side of a vehicle may not be the lowest point of the vehicle (often times there is a low hanging piece in the middle, so if I were to measure one and say it had more or less ground clearance on the side of the vehicle, I would end up being wrong eventually because of a lower hanging section. That's why I stay away from some of those measurements.
@@BrantfordKia I see your point and it is valid, but if you did just say it's a rough estimate to give the people some point of scale or size to work with. So other shows will show an item that they use as a form of reference for each of their auto reviews. Personally I would of liked to see the difference of the rear opening because the Carnival says it can fit 4' wide sheets of wood and I wanted to see how off the Telluride was off from it. Plus going off the spec's doesn't really work most the time, one point maybe wider or higher but that doesn't really matter unless it's usable for something.
@@randyrobineau2699 I think you and I generally agree on things. I always sit in the back seat to show how much room it has. As a 6 footer, people get a good idea, and it's a visual demonstration instead of just a spec sheet stat. If you had asked if a 4x8 sheet of plywood fit in the back, that's a little easier to demonstrate, and those are the types of questions that I try to answer if they're asked while we're live. At the end of the day, we're a group of 3 dealers, and these videos started as a way to invite people down to our dealerships to see the vehicles for themselves. It's impossible for me to know what everyone is looking for, so what I would normally do in a situation like your request, is I would invite that person down to try for themselves. We're not a review channel, we're a group of dealerships, so it's not like we only have these vehicles for an afternoon or a week, we can invite our customers to see them, or we can use the same vehicle in a completely different video to answer frequently asked questions etc.
@@BrantfordKia I just watch another video you did ( EX+ Carnival ) and it was done better ( in my opinion ) because you used a large bear and you gave an average size of it from your floor tile. That's really all I was suggesting and yes if I was available for the live show I could of asked the question. I only posted the comment because I was curious and I thought it would help your show. I think you're doing a good job over all and keep up the good work.
I can't answer that. To be honest, there is a wait for Tellurides, and it's possible that if you order now, it will be a 2023. I don't expect a huge price increase, but it's pretty rare for a new model year vehicle to be less expensive than the current model year.
@@BrantfordKia I was told this exact thing 3 days ago when we ordered our telluride. With the wait time being 6-8 months out there is a possibility of getting a 2023. Im all for it! Ha
I wish Kia would put the 3.3T or 3.5T in the Telluride. I want something that has power, while my wife wants a SUV with a blindspot camera. The Carnival is the best looking mini-van.
I don't expect any major changes like that to come to the Telluride. Kia is selling every one that they can make, so when that's happening, it's unlikely that they'll make changes.
you're right peter, the 7 inch instrument cluster is sufficient for the telluride; separates it from the palisades...as for the 10.25 inch infotainment screen...those bezels are huge lol another right point: all wheel drive is a luxury and not really necessary; the ground clearance in the carnival is class leading which gives it its advantage class leading...kia is really breaking grounds on class leading areas for both the telluride and carnival; such awesomeness :) question: why the different sound system brands between the models anyways? haha driver power seating oddity indeed between the 2 cars here aww no HUD in the carnival??? it would have made it feature packed :( ;) gotta love those vip/dentist loungers in the carnival; best move ever from kia! answer for the button issue: reaching stick / back scratcher stick hahaha the everyday choice: the carnival :D
Haha! I love your summary! The different sound systems seem to be a move from Harmon Kardon to Bose. Most of the cars released since the Telluride have been using Bose Audio. It seems that they're moving that way.
Do you think that the Telluride 2022 will get an upgrade for wireless Apple CarPlay? I know that will not have it but I hope that Kia will offer an update in the future?
I haven't heard anything like this, so I'm not sure. I hope so. The 2022 Kia Soul's just showed up, and they have it, but I've only seen the 8" screens on those models. I have yet to see a larger screen with that feature. If I find out more, I'll make a video, so feel free to subscribe!
Hey Peter - Can the 2nd row seats be removed on the SX Prestige seats? My understanding is that the seats can only be removed on 8 seater trims. Also you happen to have a video filming the actual removal?
So you’re asking about an American car, and we film in Canada, the cars are basically the same, but the names are different. Our SX is your SX Prestige. The middle row seats aren’t removable, so if you needed that space for cargo, you would need to move a trim line down to the 8 passenger model. On one of my videos, I have taken the seats out of that model, but I don’t remember which one it is now. I might have to make a separate video of me taking those seats out soon.
@@BrantfordKia I’m loving the Telluride. I own a 2017 Sorento. Is there any word on a AWD Carnival coming? Probably gonna wait and see if that happens.
@@manuelquintana1008 I would stop waiting for that. The new platform is not capable of AWD, which means that we won't see an AWD minivan until the entire van is redesigned again, if then.
I have a Dodge Caravan right now (basic model) but miss the sun and I love the boxier style vehicles (got the van for the convenience only) but dang out of the 2 on looks... I'd rather have the carnival over the telluride with the boxiness! Wow 😍
Thanks for creating this video, super helpful!! Have a quick question about the Carnival, do the doors automatically lock if you walk away from the vehicle with the key in your pocket?
@@vimalramachandran thanks for responding. I can't seem to get it to work on my new carnival SX, do you by chance know how to make it work? Would be a great help if you can tell me... really appreciate your time!
@@SrinivasJantali Perhaps this will help: ruclips.net/video/LBFBl9fzOz4/видео.html. I personally don't own the vehicle; just happened to come across this video. You're welcome.
Questions: 1. Ordered a 2023 Carnival SX P at MSRE two months ago. typical markup is $5K around DC area. What kind of delivery time you think? 2. I got the Trailer hitch, does that come with an Aux Trans cooler which is typical? 3. Why does the Telluride tow 5500Lbs, whereas the Carnival tows only 3500. I believe the Telluride has a 3.8 (Older?) versus the 3.5 in The Carnival although the HP/Torque is nearly identical. Any idea what the difference is? AWD?
I believe the 2nd row seats can be removed, but not on the Prestige. Probably too much to disconnect. If you remove the 2nd row and put down the 3rd row, I think a full sheet will fit with the rear door closed. confirm?
Do any windows beside driver/passenger roll down? Does the rear moon roof open on the Prestige? Do the rear side windows fold out like typical MiniVans?
Yeah, that's fair. In reality, it still looks like a minivan because it is still a van. The marketing department is afraid to call it that, but we all know that's what it is.
I'm willing to hold that opinion. The Carnival SX has a larger screen, full digital dash, Passenger View Camera, VIP Lounge Seats in the middle row. More cargo space, better fuel efficiency. It's hard to argue that the winning vehicle of the World SUV of the Year, Motor Trend SUV of the Year, etc (Telluride) is better than the Telluride if you don't need AWD.
@@BrantfordKia oh wow you responded! I enjoy your indepth reviews btw. We are wanting to purchase the carnival SX here in the US but the crazy markups had us put a pause on going out to purchase in hopes things will settle down over the next year. I wish your dealership was closer. I'd definately come there to purchase
I'll take both! :) Although the Carnival name isn't growing on me yet, then again, better than Hyundai's obsession with the state of New Mexico. Do the heating elements extend down the full length of the extension in the driver's seat? Perhaps in the future, they'll split the heat so you can select either the back or the bottom. I love my heated seats but it would be nice to just have the back on as it really roasts my rump when I just want to sauté my back. I was going ask last Carnival video, but is there a way to lock out movement of the middle seats? I can see issues with kids messing around with the ones in the third row.
Haha! If you'll take both, feel free to swing by today!! The heating elements on the seats do extend pretty far out on the Telluride, I haven't used them all that much on the Carnival, so I can't comment accurately on that. The middle row seats cannot be locked out, so you'll have to up your parenting game if you risk putting the kids in the ultimate comfort seats!!
My 2020 Xceed has a 10.25 screen which if you use Android Auto you will notice AA only fill 2/3 of the screen.Here in the UK there appears to be no fix from Kia for this issue.Just wondering,is it the same for you where you are?
I've heard that this is the case here as well. With my personal 2020 Kia Soul EV running the latest software, my Apple CarPlay is still fullscreen. Some vehicles have a setting to change this, but I'm not sure if yours does.
@@BartIzPRIM3 The best way to get that answer is to check the specs on www.kia.ca The EX+ loses the VIP Lounge seats, and the dual sunroofs, which are the big differences, but there are other smaller differences that you can see on the website too. Some of which may matter to you, others may not.
I've done that in other videos, and to be honest, there was a time that I had hurt my back, and it's possible that I was still dealing with that in this video, or I ran out of time. I'll do that again in the future.
Great question. At this point the lower level Carnivals with the 8" display screen has that feature, the upper level trims with the larger screens do not. There are rumours of a software update allowing that feature to work in some of these existing cars, but I can't get that confirmed right now.
@@diwang2389 Because the higher trim is using Linux-based OS which doesn't support wireless. But smaller displays in the lower trims run on Android that supports wireless.
@@BrantfordKia haha sorry that was not a criticism of your chanel. In fact I still watched most of the video so that I could see what I was missing out on with no all wheal drive. I was just saying I don't care how much I like the carnival I won't end up buying it. Thanks for the content.
What the heck ?!! Here I was Disappointed I have the telluride until he walks to the carnival and shows the HIDEOUS clearly mini van body ! All of the perks are clearly better on carnival yes , but the telluride is basically a Range as far as LOOKS . I guess it’s all subjective and what you want but the aesthetics of the car are VERY HIGH on my personal list .... #TeamTelluride
Yeah, that's going to matter to some people, and that's fair. The reality is that Kia has a winner here with the vehicle as is, because they literally can't keep up with demand right now.
@@BrantfordKia Ours came 6 months ago. Thanks you! We got Lucky no one could obtain one. Hear in Monmouth County NJ. They told us a cargo ship full of Telluride's capsized in the ocean at the time. No one could get a hold of one. Especially the one we've wanted. With the head up display in Napa leather prestige package. In everlasting silver. From Georgia to Taylor kia dealership in Ohio. To Monmouth county New Jersey. 👍
ALL WHEEL DRIVE .... !!!! that's my choice , sorry carnival ..... peter the question I have for you .... the turning circle .... is like toyotas or fords .... ? or like mercedes that need half a stadium to do a circle turn .... ?
Okay, these are very nice vehicles, but I can’t get past the flashing lights and loud buzzers in my head shouting “it’s a KIA!!” Have they done anything to improve reliability and longevity or is it still your mom’s “poor man’s Toyota?” Anybody know anything about this 3.8? Is it the same motor that is well known to be reliable? My wife likes them both, but I’m leery about dropping that much cash on a Kia???
I'll never convince you here, so feel free to do research. Around the world, Kia is winning quality and reliability awards in every category. Kia's are among the most reliable vehicles out there now. To put it another way, all of the awards that Toyota used to finish top 2 or 3 in for years to build their reputation, Kia is now winning. The argument that a Kia isn't a quality vehicle isn't a valid argument these days.
How about KIA backing their products- 10 yr, 100,000 mile power train and 6 yr-60,000 mile bumper to bumper. Strange how designs are now following Kia. Style and money where your mouth is! Telly is 3 yrs in a row, crushing the comp in it's class. Check out Motor Trend, Car and Driver or any other expert review of the Telly and the KIA brand of recent.
@@OK-wb6hp We don't have that same warranty in Canada, but as you mention, our cars are winning awards for all kinds of reasons, including quality and reliability around the world.
Yeah, we're based in Canada, and this is a Canadian model, so for this video, my words are correct, but you are also correct. In the U.S. the NightSky is the NightFall, and they're largely the same vehicle.
Why doesn’t Canada get the tv screens in the carnival like USA? TVs screens is a deal breaker for me All the competitors have rear entertainment system.
You can get the screens as an accessory. To be honest, I'm surprised more people aren't considering putting an iPad on a holder on the front headrests. The cost is the same or less, and you have a device that can be used inside or outside of the vehicle. You can download movies to them easily, and pair it with the audio system to get the sound to play through the vehicle's speakers. Just my two cents.
A 3 yr old, 15 month old, and baby on way in January. I think the Carnival is probably the most practical choice for us and any road trips. We could probably get by with the Telluride, but in and out, cargo space, etc, Carnival probably better option for us.
Wow! Congratulations, and also... Do you sleep? As far as helping you choose a vehicle, my advice to you is never as good as your observations in person, but in general, with kids that young, you're going to have a lot of stuff. In my experience, I'm happiest when I can easily fit everything that I need into the vehicle without having to play tetris at every stop to find the one thing that I need. If I were you, the Carnival would sit above the Telluride if my goal was peace and simplicity when I travel, but if you prefer the Telluride, definitely buy that. You should never regret your purchase. Buy with your head, and your heart. :)
Kia is crushing it! I love that it isn't held back by internal politics. They simply build the best vehicles on the market right now.
Yeah! They've really found their groove!
I really like my Carnival! It has been doing good with the Alaskan winter driving conditions and it rides so nicely.
Nice! Thanks for sharing your experiences!!
Keep it up. You are my new favorite for kia car info. I think dealerships should have to watch your video's for vehicle details instead of kia university etc.
Great video and explaining of features. Just what I've been looking for in a side-by-side comparison.
I want the Telluride but I need the Carnival. At least my need got better features.
Exactly! I think you can easily drive home in the Carnival and be happy with what you get. Not everyone wants a minivan, but if you're going to get one, it should have great, class-leading features, and the Carnival does that. Honestly, I think I'd choose the Carnival SX for my family of four over the Telluride.... but as I type that, I remember that my family likes to head off-road on vacation, and the Telluride is capable there... so it's a tough one!
Telluride has sexy front but Carnival has more space
These videos are great, will be picking up my Telluride any day now and these videos are showing me so much of what I'm getting.
Thanks for letting me know that you appreciate our work! Feel free to subscribe, we're planning a number of new videos for current owners too.
@@BrantfordKia can you tell me where I would find the menu to turn on the wireless charging. I tried it when I picked up Telluride yesterday and it wouldn't charge.
@@80shaner Great question. Go to the SETTINGS, then go to CONVENIENCE, then look for the checkbox that says something about "Wireless Charging System" or some very similar wording. Make sure the check box is clicked, and then it should work... now, the other reason that it won't work is if the doors are open. You need to make sure ALL the doors are shut, and wait a second or two, before it will come to life and work. Also make sure that your phone doesn't have too thick of a case. Some phone cases won't allow wireless charging to work.
@@BrantfordKia Thanks so much for the help. Looking forward to more videos!!
Kia Carnival would be nice for baseball families. Teens and parents would love the second row seats while waiting hours between games or traveling to tournaments.
How can I book a car out of these 2 with your dealership?
And how much is wait right now?
Thanks for the video..great info and comparison
Thanks Peter for this interesting review episode! To me, both are great for different lifestyles and personal relatable "identities". Both have similar features but kind of like comparing oranges to grapefruits (one's bigger lol). I personally prefer the versatility of an AWD system...but hypothetically if the Carnival has AWD, I'd still prefer the SHAPE and the towing power of the Telluride...so I'm not sure if extra gadgets/features would win me over to buy the mini VAN (I know Kia wants to villainize the word...but it's STILL is a minivan and there's nothing wrong with it esp. for the customers who NEED a people/cargo mover)! At the end of the day, people need to make sure the vehicle can FIT their need....AND their driveway!
p.s. As a driver, I'd never get to enjoy the "Lazy Boy" chairs, but I'd BUY the Carnival if the SX has 1) AWD, 2) a MASSAGEING feature for MY driver seat, and 3) if the price is still less than the Telluride :)
Yeah, I think what's interesting to me is that the Telluride is our multi-award-winning, high-tech, luxurious model, and in many ways, the Carnival is better! There are some people who will NEVER cross-shop these two, but I think many will now consider the Carnival who never considered the Telluride. We had a number of Sedona buyers who LOVED the Telluride but needed the Sedona Now we've got something intriguing that they can claim has features that even the Telluride doesn't have.
Fantastic Video Peter. Thank you. As a Canadian Driver, would you lean towards the AWD(telluride) over the FWD (Carnival) in the snow? I have driven both kinds on different vehicles but never on longer vehicles so not sure if it truly makes a significant difference? Would the Carnival spin lose traction a lot easier?
I think I would make my decision based on my overall needs. In poor conditions, the Carnival with winter tires would brake and steer better than a Telluride with AWD and all-season tires. So in my mind, I would choose your favourite vehicle. This would be a tough decision for me. I might be willing to sacrifice some winter traction to gain the space and features of the Carnival, but that's because we don't have a whole lot of terrible weather days here. Flip side is, when I go camping, I often head down poor roads with mud and dips, and loose gravel, and in those cases the AWD would be helpful. I expect both cars to be very good in the winter, so in my mind, if you pick the vehicle that's best for you, I think you'll be making the best decision. If you face a lot of really bad weather (northern Ontario etc,) then I can see how the Telluride may be a necessity, but if you're in the GTA, neither vehicle is going to be stranded in our typical weather.
Both cars are just excellent but I would go with the Carnival for added family practicality and family friendly features
Yeah! If you don't need AWD, I find it hard to beat the Carnival, and I'm saying that knowing that the Telluride has won just about every award that the vehicle has been entered in. These are two GREAT vehicles!
You should use a tape measure in your videos. Showing ground clearance and the width of the opened hatch should be shown in videos like this.
I could do that, but ground clearance is often easily found online, and me measuring from the side of a vehicle may not be the lowest point of the vehicle (often times there is a low hanging piece in the middle, so if I were to measure one and say it had more or less ground clearance on the side of the vehicle, I would end up being wrong eventually because of a lower hanging section. That's why I stay away from some of those measurements.
@@BrantfordKia I see your point and it is valid, but if you did just say it's a rough estimate to give the people some point of scale or size to work with. So other shows will show an item that they use as a form of reference for each of their auto reviews. Personally I would of liked to see the difference of the rear opening because the Carnival says it can fit 4' wide sheets of wood and I wanted to see how off the Telluride was off from it. Plus going off the spec's doesn't really work most the time, one point maybe wider or higher but that doesn't really matter unless it's usable for something.
@@randyrobineau2699 I think you and I generally agree on things. I always sit in the back seat to show how much room it has. As a 6 footer, people get a good idea, and it's a visual demonstration instead of just a spec sheet stat. If you had asked if a 4x8 sheet of plywood fit in the back, that's a little easier to demonstrate, and those are the types of questions that I try to answer if they're asked while we're live. At the end of the day, we're a group of 3 dealers, and these videos started as a way to invite people down to our dealerships to see the vehicles for themselves. It's impossible for me to know what everyone is looking for, so what I would normally do in a situation like your request, is I would invite that person down to try for themselves. We're not a review channel, we're a group of dealerships, so it's not like we only have these vehicles for an afternoon or a week, we can invite our customers to see them, or we can use the same vehicle in a completely different video to answer frequently asked questions etc.
@@BrantfordKia I just watch another video you did ( EX+ Carnival ) and it was done better ( in my opinion ) because you used a large bear and you gave an average size of it from your floor tile. That's really all I was suggesting and yes if I was available for the live show I could of asked the question. I only posted the comment because I was curious and I thought it would help your show. I think you're doing a good job over all and keep up the good work.
Does the horn sound when it the doors are locked from the remote
Hi please tell me about snow drive experience
Should I wait for the 2023 Kia telluride or is it gonna go way up in price or should I just get the 2022 now before the year ends 🤔
I can't answer that. To be honest, there is a wait for Tellurides, and it's possible that if you order now, it will be a 2023. I don't expect a huge price increase, but it's pretty rare for a new model year vehicle to be less expensive than the current model year.
@@BrantfordKia I was told this exact thing 3 days ago when we ordered our telluride. With the wait time being 6-8 months out there is a possibility of getting a 2023. Im all for it! Ha
I wish Kia would put the 3.3T or 3.5T in the Telluride. I want something that has power, while my wife wants a SUV with a blindspot camera. The Carnival is the best looking mini-van.
I don't expect any major changes like that to come to the Telluride. Kia is selling every one that they can make, so when that's happening, it's unlikely that they'll make changes.
@@BrantfordKia Thank you for the explanation. I'm glad that KIA is selling out of these.
@@WKaznartist Haha! I wish they could make more of them faster, so we'd have more to sell!
you're right peter, the 7 inch instrument cluster is sufficient for the telluride; separates it from the palisades...as for the 10.25 inch infotainment screen...those bezels are huge lol
another right point: all wheel drive is a luxury and not really necessary; the ground clearance in the carnival is class leading which gives it its advantage
class leading...kia is really breaking grounds on class leading areas for both the telluride and carnival; such awesomeness :)
question: why the different sound system brands between the models anyways?
haha driver power seating oddity indeed between the 2 cars here
aww no HUD in the carnival??? it would have made it feature packed :( ;)
gotta love those vip/dentist loungers in the carnival; best move ever from kia! answer for the button issue: reaching stick / back scratcher stick hahaha
the everyday choice: the carnival :D
Haha! I love your summary! The different sound systems seem to be a move from Harmon Kardon to Bose. Most of the cars released since the Telluride have been using Bose Audio. It seems that they're moving that way.
@@BrantfordKia hey i love your reviews! gotta love the canadian perspective on them, the hands on approach going through all the nooks and crannies :)
Do you think that the Telluride 2022 will get an upgrade for wireless Apple CarPlay?
I know that will not have it but I hope that Kia will offer an update in the future?
I haven't heard anything like this, so I'm not sure. I hope so. The 2022 Kia Soul's just showed up, and they have it, but I've only seen the 8" screens on those models. I have yet to see a larger screen with that feature. If I find out more, I'll make a video, so feel free to subscribe!
Hey Peter - Can the 2nd row seats be removed on the SX Prestige seats? My understanding is that the seats can only be removed on 8 seater trims. Also you happen to have a video filming the actual removal?
So you’re asking about an American car, and we film in Canada, the cars are basically the same, but the names are different. Our SX is your SX Prestige. The middle row seats aren’t removable, so if you needed that space for cargo, you would need to move a trim line down to the 8 passenger model. On one of my videos, I have taken the seats out of that model, but I don’t remember which one it is now. I might have to make a separate video of me taking those seats out soon.
Any plans for a AWD Carnival? That would be a win for me.
Allow me to introduce you to the Kia Telluride. :)
@@BrantfordKia I’m loving the Telluride. I own a 2017 Sorento.
Is there any word on a AWD Carnival coming? Probably gonna wait and see if that happens.
@@manuelquintana1008 I would stop waiting for that. The new platform is not capable of AWD, which means that we won't see an AWD minivan until the entire van is redesigned again, if then.
@@BrantfordKia gotcha, thanks!
Awd is the only way for me in the Ozarks, where I Iive @@BrantfordKia
Sorry maybe I missed it, what trim is this kia carnival?
I have a Dodge Caravan right now (basic model) but miss the sun and I love the boxier style vehicles (got the van for the convenience only) but dang out of the 2 on looks... I'd rather have the carnival over the telluride with the boxiness! Wow 😍
Haha! The each have their fans for sure!
Thanks for creating this video, super helpful!! Have a quick question about the Carnival, do the doors automatically lock if you walk away from the vehicle with the key in your pocket?
I think so. The sliding doors also automatically open when you approach them.
@@vimalramachandran thanks for responding. I can't seem to get it to work on my new carnival SX, do you by chance know how to make it work? Would be a great help if you can tell me... really appreciate your time!
@@SrinivasJantali Perhaps this will help: ruclips.net/video/LBFBl9fzOz4/видео.html. I personally don't own the vehicle; just happened to come across this video. You're welcome.
Sorry, I was away on vacation. If you have the tailgate set to auto close when you leave it, then yes, they will lock.
Do the back seats in the carnival and telluride flip? Does the middle seat adjust for infants seating
The third-row seats in both vehicles fold into the floor. I believe you can put a child seat in any of the middle or back row seats
In any seat configuration can the Carnival carry a full 4 x 8 sheet of plywood with the door closed? I believe the Telluride isn't quite wide enough..
Questions:
1. Ordered a 2023 Carnival SX P at MSRE two months ago. typical markup is $5K around DC area. What kind of delivery time you think?
2. I got the Trailer hitch, does that come with an Aux Trans cooler which is typical?
3. Why does the Telluride tow 5500Lbs, whereas the Carnival tows only 3500. I believe the Telluride has a 3.8 (Older?) versus the 3.5 in The Carnival although the HP/Torque is nearly identical. Any idea what the difference is? AWD?
I believe the 2nd row seats can be removed, but not on the Prestige. Probably too much to disconnect. If you remove the 2nd row and put down the 3rd row, I think a full sheet will fit with the rear door closed. confirm?
Do any windows beside driver/passenger roll down? Does the rear moon roof open on the Prestige? Do the rear side windows fold out like typical MiniVans?
I wish they would of made front of carnival more square. It looks so good from side, but from front it still reminds me of a minivan.
Yeah, that's fair. In reality, it still looks like a minivan because it is still a van. The marketing department is afraid to call it that, but we all know that's what it is.
Google 2021 Ford Expedition, Ford's largest SUV. Tell me that doesn't look exactly like the Carnival except with more ground clearance.
@@take5DD exactly it 100% doesn’t look like a minivan
What is a holler cost ?
Oh shit those telluride features of quiet mode and passenger talk are a mom‘s dream 😂😂😂
Haha! Agreed! (don't let them hear you saying that SH word though... Passenger Talk means they hear it all when you activate that feature!! :)
Kia needs to introduce rearview monitors instead of mirrors in their big vehicles.
That's not legally allowed in Canada right now.
So despite the Telluride craze the Carnival is a better vehicle except it doesn't have AWD
I'm willing to hold that opinion. The Carnival SX has a larger screen, full digital dash, Passenger View Camera, VIP Lounge Seats in the middle row. More cargo space, better fuel efficiency. It's hard to argue that the winning vehicle of the World SUV of the Year, Motor Trend SUV of the Year, etc (Telluride) is better than the Telluride if you don't need AWD.
@@BrantfordKia oh wow you responded! I enjoy your indepth reviews btw. We are wanting to purchase the carnival SX here in the US but the crazy markups had us put a pause on going out to purchase in hopes things will settle down over the next year. I wish your dealership was closer. I'd definately come there to purchase
I think u meant to say the rear "glass/sunroof doesnt open" and not the panel correct
In the Telluride the rear sunroof opens just the cover panel (glass is fixed) in the carnival the rear sunroof actually opens the glass!
I'll take both! :) Although the Carnival name isn't growing on me yet, then again, better than Hyundai's obsession with the state of New Mexico. Do the heating elements extend down the full length of the extension in the driver's seat? Perhaps in the future, they'll split the heat so you can select either the back or the bottom. I love my heated seats but it would be nice to just have the back on as it really roasts my rump when I just want to sauté my back. I was going ask last Carnival video, but is there a way to lock out movement of the middle seats? I can see issues with kids messing around with the ones in the third row.
Haha! If you'll take both, feel free to swing by today!! The heating elements on the seats do extend pretty far out on the Telluride, I haven't used them all that much on the Carnival, so I can't comment accurately on that. The middle row seats cannot be locked out, so you'll have to up your parenting game if you risk putting the kids in the ultimate comfort seats!!
My 2020 Xceed has a 10.25 screen which if you use Android Auto you will notice AA only fill 2/3 of the screen.Here in the UK there appears to be no fix from Kia for this issue.Just wondering,is it the same for you where you are?
I've heard that this is the case here as well. With my personal 2020 Kia Soul EV running the latest software, my Apple CarPlay is still fullscreen. Some vehicles have a setting to change this, but I'm not sure if yours does.
I am literally a mini van fan
I think the carnival is mostly made in Korea while the Carnival is US, Gorgia
The Carnival is made in Korea, the Telluride is made in the U.S.
How man ppl does the carnival sx seats? Cuz it looks like the middle seat his missing with the two single seats being there
The SX does not have a centre seat in the middle row, so it seats 7, while other Carnivals seat 8.
@@BrantfordKia so what is the difference between the sx and the tier under? I need at least 8 seats but don't wann lose that many feats
@@BartIzPRIM3 The best way to get that answer is to check the specs on www.kia.ca The EX+ loses the VIP Lounge seats, and the dual sunroofs, which are the big differences, but there are other smaller differences that you can see on the website too. Some of which may matter to you, others may not.
If they make both these vehicle hybrid I'm sold
It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see these two vehicles as full EV’s in the coming years!
Do you guys deliver Telluride to Seattle, US?
I wish! Canadian dealers can't sell new cars to American customers. It's against our franchise agreements.
Order one from your local dealer
Why didn’t you compare the 3rd rows?
I've done that in other videos, and to be honest, there was a time that I had hurt my back, and it's possible that I was still dealing with that in this video, or I ran out of time. I'll do that again in the future.
The top of the line Carnival is actually the SX Prestige, not the SX.
That would be true if you live in the U.S. But we film in Canada, and here our top of the line trim is called the SX.
carnival vs suburban for interior space?
Carnival. I'd be shocked if the Suburban had more. The Suburban has a much higher floor.
@@BrantfordKia well be surprise because after seeing both in person the new suburban is MASSIVE! Was impressed with both
@@BrantfordKia damn they are roughly the same but it looked so much bigger in person hahah. Good info mate. Thanks
Does it have wireless android auto/apple carplay?
Great question. At this point the lower level Carnivals with the 8" display screen has that feature, the upper level trims with the larger screens do not. There are rumours of a software update allowing that feature to work in some of these existing cars, but I can't get that confirmed right now.
@@BrantfordKia Thank you so much for answering so rapidly! I don't get the logic of not having that feature for higher trims🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@diwang2389 Because the higher trim is using Linux-based OS which doesn't support wireless. But smaller displays in the lower trims run on Android that supports wireless.
@@vimalramachandran Thank you for the details. But still, people supposed to get more features with higher trims and higher price :)
@@diwang2389 Wireless will come to Linux soon. People are getting more in terms of screen real estate.
that is a 2021 Telluride not a 2022 right?
In this video, yes, that's a 2021. We have 2022's in stock now.
I was excited to watch this and be convinced by the mini van, but no all wheal drive? Not worth watching for me.
Ok. Thanks for giving our channel a try! I don't get to decide whether or not these are equipped with AWD.
@@BrantfordKia haha sorry that was not a criticism of your chanel. In fact I still watched most of the video so that I could see what I was missing out on with no all wheal drive. I was just saying I don't care how much I like the carnival I won't end up buying it. Thanks for the content.
perfect VS
Thanks for watching!
What the heck ?!! Here I was Disappointed I have the telluride until he walks to the carnival and shows the HIDEOUS clearly mini van body ! All of the perks are clearly better on carnival yes , but the telluride is basically a Range as far as LOOKS . I guess it’s all subjective and what you want but the aesthetics of the car are VERY HIGH on my personal list .... #TeamTelluride
You just trying to make yourself feel better. Lol. Carnival looks just fine. Telluride not that much better looking.
Canadian?!
When Telluride is launching in India
I would buy the Carnival but it hads no all wheel drive. Definitely a deal breaker.
Yeah, that's going to matter to some people, and that's fair. The reality is that Kia has a winner here with the vehicle as is, because they literally can't keep up with demand right now.
Telluride looks way nicer.
You should buy one! :)
@@BrantfordKia
Ours came 6 months ago. Thanks you! We got Lucky no one could obtain one. Hear in Monmouth County NJ. They told us a cargo ship full of Telluride's capsized in the ocean at the time. No one could get a hold of one. Especially the one we've wanted. With the head up display in Napa leather prestige package. In everlasting silver. From Georgia to Taylor kia dealership in Ohio. To Monmouth county New Jersey. 👍
ALL WHEEL DRIVE .... !!!! that's my choice , sorry carnival .....
peter the question I have for you .... the turning circle ....
is like toyotas or fords .... ? or like mercedes that need
half a stadium to do a circle turn .... ?
It turns pretty sharp. I was impressed when I drove it.
@@BrantfordKia
Thank you .... !!!!
Night Fall, Not Night Sky.. Maybe thats Canada Way
Yup! Nightfall is trademarked in Canada, so our versions are Nightsky.
Love, love our Carnival, but hate the name
Glad you love the Carnival! Sorry you hate the name.
Carnival is nice, too much gloss black on the interior, finger prints.
Okay, these are very nice vehicles, but I can’t get past the flashing lights and loud buzzers in my head shouting “it’s a KIA!!” Have they done anything to improve reliability and longevity or is it still your mom’s “poor man’s Toyota?” Anybody know anything about this 3.8? Is it the same motor that is well known to be reliable? My wife likes them both, but I’m leery about dropping that much cash on a Kia???
I'll never convince you here, so feel free to do research. Around the world, Kia is winning quality and reliability awards in every category. Kia's are among the most reliable vehicles out there now. To put it another way, all of the awards that Toyota used to finish top 2 or 3 in for years to build their reputation, Kia is now winning. The argument that a Kia isn't a quality vehicle isn't a valid argument these days.
@@BrantfordKia Thank you! Good to know! I appreciate your time and dedication.
How about KIA backing their products- 10 yr, 100,000 mile power train and 6 yr-60,000 mile bumper to bumper. Strange how designs are now following Kia. Style and money where your mouth is! Telly is 3 yrs in a row, crushing the comp in it's class. Check out Motor Trend, Car and Driver or any other expert review of the Telly and the KIA brand of recent.
@@OK-wb6hp We don't have that same warranty in Canada, but as you mention, our cars are winning awards for all kinds of reasons, including quality and reliability around the world.
Thanks for the video, but it's a nightFALL edition, not a nightSKY edition.
Nightfall is the American edition. Nightsky is the Canadian edition. This guy is in Canada, so he's correct.
Yeah, we're based in Canada, and this is a Canadian model, so for this video, my words are correct, but you are also correct. In the U.S. the NightSky is the NightFall, and they're largely the same vehicle.
Why doesn’t Canada get the tv screens in the carnival like USA?
TVs screens is a deal breaker for me
All the competitors have rear entertainment system.
You can get the screens as an accessory. To be honest, I'm surprised more people aren't considering putting an iPad on a holder on the front headrests. The cost is the same or less, and you have a device that can be used inside or outside of the vehicle. You can download movies to them easily, and pair it with the audio system to get the sound to play through the vehicle's speakers. Just my two cents.
because it's canada?
@@joec.5009 I'm taking that as a compliment, even if it was meant as an insult! :)
You can easily strap a tablet onto the back of the headrests with cheap holders available on Amazon.
you got “666” likes when i was watching this
So.... did you leave it there, or add a like? :)
So.... did you leave it there, or add a like? :)
@@BrantfordKia i left it like it is because i think it’s cool…. lol, and i didn’t want to click the dislike
U waste time by talking so much unnecessary things
This is going to shock you, but sometimes what you find unnecessary, other people fine helpful!
Do the windows on sliding door roll down?
Yes and no. They do go down, but they don't "roll down" because they're power operated. ;) (sorry, I couldn't resist!)