With the exception of the drone engine and lack of a spare tire, this car is fantastic. Other than that, peaceful and gentle riding. I would purchase it!
At least it has every pedestrian and anti-collision safety option imaginable, now if only every new Toyota didn't have chronically worsening outward visibility
I used to have to rent cars a lot for business and Budget would seem to always only have Lincoln Town Cars and they would always, ALWAYS, have a tape player to the point I’d bring along a case of cassettes I had from high school. You’re thinking “oh, so this would have been in the 1980s?” Nope. Try 2005-2009. That’s right, tape decks Ford’s most premium luxury cars only 15 years ago.
I test drove last year the Crown. Absolutely loved it but was very curious about the Signia. But by the time you include sales tax, etc, etc, its nearly $60K. Above my paygrade. Went with a Venza LE. Out the door with add-ons for $40K . I get 38mpg- 46mpg on 18" wheels. I did later add after market speakers and a self powered sub woofer. Incredible sound
Most of these hybrid 4 cylinders are buzzy because they have a different operating cycle and are pinged at the optimum RPM at all times. I really would rather have an EV over these
@@Akabari100this is exactly why I don’t pay attention to those comments. You don’t notice during regular driving especially when you have music playing.
Honestly, this would make a great commuter without calling attention to yourself like the GM counterparts. Modest & sleek. I honestly would not mind parking this at B rated Arby’s or at the bougie steakhouse that forces me to shower first before waking in.
@@ADUSN Agree, my 1999 Lexus has awesome paint quality, still looks great. This is a more advanced and features rich with a reliable drivetrain. Paint is gonna need some extra care.
I wonder how this compares to the new Mazda CX50 with the toyota hybrid system. They seem about the same size, luxury, dynamics. I know you just reviewed the CX50 and would appreciate your thoughts.
I think it's quite straightforward, this is definitely a better car all-around and it's more comfortable, while cx50-h is just a lot cheaper. If you can afford crown, get a crown, if you want to save, get cx50-h.
Our family’s 2011 venza has been about bulletproof. 180k+ miles and it’s never given us a crazy bill. Differential seal had to be redone and one time the coolant dumped out of it on a long trip but no damage to the engine. Just needed new hoses. It is loud tho and we added extra insulation to help with road noise.
I have been watching this for the last year or so, I had been considering a Lexus NX300h, and I was motivated enough to get one. Partly that was the packages associated with the Lexus, requiring me to buy a bunch of stuff I didn't want to get a built in charger, coupled with the strict simplicity of Crown Signia configuration, XLE or Limited. Granted I am likely the target market, middle-aged with adult children, but it does deliver. The market is quiet sure what to do about this car so you can get the Crown Signia XLE for $3k or so off TSRP. If you want a reasonable light lux vehicle without glitz this is good option.
Mark, until this was released, it was at the top of my buying list. Then, I found out NO SPARE. I know; I know, there are lots of vehicles without spares. Fine. I won't be buying any of them. The run-flat tires are a fantasy - ask anyone who has owned one . . . What I really don't get is that this model, in other geographies, apparently has a spare. My next vehicle will likely be the 2026 Honda Passport. Sorry, Toyota.
Thank you for doing such a great job of explaining the technical points of the car. I’m not a car geek. A lot of stuff just goes over my head and I don’t want to have to look things up to understand the car jargon.
I think its pretty sweet. I wouldn't buy it, but it is sweet. I can appreciate a car for being a good vehicle. Doesn't look like every other appliance either inside or outside. Well done.
if they lower it about 1-2 inches and make it a wagon, this would catch my attention. I want to use a cargo box without buying a hatchback (too short) or a sedan (not enough utility) and still be able to fit inside a standard garage (crossovers too tall with box). I saw a Subaru STI hatchback the other day with a roof box and hitch, that was perfect for me if it was just longer. Sadly wagons only exist with European brands, I'm not interested in Euro brands. Toyota with their dynamic assembly lines, I'm still shock they don't take a chance to add a wagon to the line up.
Because the masses won't buy it. In Europe and Asia, they do make wagons for most there sedan models as that's still a popular option out there. Here in the US, crossovers and SUVs and the big sellers out side of the Camry and Corolla which still sell enough,but if we see a massive dip when the new rav 4 comes out, I expect them to slowly fade them out of the US market as well. It sucks as I like sedans and more so wagons for what they are and the price bracket they sell in, but companies nowadays have to sell in bigger margins and only keep more niche products to a minimum. That's why I'm still shocked the Miata is still around.
1 to 2 inches is nothing a decent of springs or coilover cant fix if you really love everything else though. Sometimes you have to go the extra mile for yourself if you really want it. I can imagine it would look good though lowered to look like a nice sleigh/wagon.
Except for one HUGE MAJOR problem, Toyota did a really good job on the Signia.. BUT... The huge problem is.. and I mean HUGE problem - with the Crown Signia is the far, FAR too low roofline and an overly sleeky-ness design,.. which results in very bad outward visibility (in all directions). This low roof also results in lack of room in the cabin, and just lack of relaxing comfort.. And the lack of good visibility is a very serious safety concern when driving the Crown Signia.. This is/was the exact same story that the Venza had. If only Toyota would have made it more boxy, much less sleek, and raised the roofline about 4" or 5" inches for both the Venza and this Crown Signia .. They would both be really REALLY nice vehicles.. Also note that the reviewer (Jack) is a great guy and great reviewer.. but I guess that he is about only about 5' 7" tall or so.. For him this Signia may work ok.. But for anyone over about 5' 9" or if you have passengers over 5' 9" - the problems I wrote above could make the Cignia not work out so well for them.. BTW.. I'm 6' 2" ..
I understand what you mean, but I guess if you're the practical type that cares about backseats and visibility they want you to pick between the Rav4 and the Lexus NX depending on your budget.
It’s a wagon. Low roofline is one of the ways wagons are different from crossovers. Making it boxier would just make it the same as every other crossover SUV out there.
@@enmass90 Yea.. You are right.. This Signia is more of a hatchback or wagon.. Which I am not interested in.. But it would be so nice if Toyota would come out with a Crown Signia SUV.. Just keep everything in the Crown Signia the same.. BUT just raise the roof about 4" to 6" inches.. Then you would have a really great SUV..
@@monstamastarc You're fine.. You buy whatever you want.. If you like a low roof and poor outward visibility (very unsafe).. Go for it... Just make sure that (in case of a severe car accident) you have real good health/hospital insurance for you and your passengers. Long stays in a hospital intensive car unit is SUPER expensive, and almost always life changing for the worst - if you survive the accident.. Of course, a one way trip to the cemetery is no fun either. I like to have good outward visibility in my driving to drive safely and avoid a severe accident.. Good luck to you..
A really interesting body design! Yes, the side even looks sleek, despite being an SUV. The rear bulky but in a cool way. The front grill not a Toyota-typical scream of agony. And the wheel arches have only a small black lining and it's glossy, i.e. really focusing on looks not functionality. If I had to drive an SUV, this one would be among my favorites. (But I would still relatively hate it.)
I have to go see these in person.. The 21" wheels seems stupid and the tires would be around $500 each... I'd have to really love it. Its down to this and the Highlander/Grand Highlander..
Now this makes a lot more sense! Yet, it just feels too big for what interior space there actually is... Almost like it is bulky by design and could easily be smaller.
I have owned 10 motorcycles, 4 of them I rode on long distance trips. (California to Illinois round trip) I don’t even remember whether I worried about flat tires or not, but I never had one. But these days, I have given up on motorcycles. I worry too much. I can’t imagine having a car with no spare tire. Especially one with low profile tires, they can cause a damaged wheel. Then what? Get towed to a dealer and hope they have a wheel in stock?
id love a Crown but they aren't tax efficient where i live. you're better off getting a plug-in hybrid or a full electric car when buying it as a company car... too bad but i can't complain driving a young low mileage second hand bmw 530e, instead, at about half the price of owning a Crown. also, i just checked, seems like they're not available anymore in Belgium :(
I Rather trade my 2022 Toyota Venza XLE to a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited with every option that get 42 miles per gallon and pretty much has all the same options and cost about 10,000 dollars less
I have no idea why you’d fork over the extra for an RX or NX when you get the exact same engine drone and similar levels (YES, a Lexus is nicer) of luxury inside.
If the crown signia were closer to a V90 CC or A4 allroad in height, ie. closer to being a crown estate, and if it were PHEV, I'd probably trade out of my V60 PHEV. the sound system would have to be REALLY bad rule it out. But canada only gets the top trim, so fixed pano glass sunroof only (which suck for hauling kayaks) and gas economy isn't even rated that much better with the hybrid max drivetrain vs what i currently get with my T8 in real world use.
With the exception of the drone engine and lack of a spare tire, this car is fantastic. Other than that, peaceful and gentle riding. I would purchase it!
I wish Toyota would build a smoother 4 cylinder.
If my wife sees me come to court in this maybe she'll let me see the kids for two weekends a month instead of one! 😃
Loserrr.
She'd think you're balling and squeeze your balls until there's nothing left 😅
Burn@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib
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She will just ask for more child support.
Just needs a CD player for that target customer.
Toyota Crown....Vic.
At least it has every pedestrian and anti-collision safety option imaginable, now if only every new Toyota didn't have chronically worsening outward visibility
I used to have to rent cars a lot for business and Budget would seem to always only have Lincoln Town Cars and they would always, ALWAYS, have a tape player to the point I’d bring along a case of cassettes I had from high school.
You’re thinking “oh, so this would have been in the 1980s?”
Nope. Try 2005-2009. That’s right, tape decks Ford’s most premium luxury cars only 15 years ago.
HAY! I’m in my early 50’s and I still have CDs. It’s wonderful to be able to own NOT RENT the music I love to hear. (€%^ng subscriptions)
This will be why controls focus is on physical. Old people probably go furious over all the confusing computer crap.
@@catherinejacobs4801 That's why I download what I want...
Sure, but can it go 96 down a neighborhood street?
Nissan or Kia dealership is probably close by
Only if there are children present
Does this sweet ride have a passenger side display?
I was driving through a school zone the other day and a rav4 caught and passed me in the school parking lot
Only if you're filming a sponsored camera review
I test drove last year the Crown. Absolutely loved it but was very curious about the Signia. But by the time you include sales tax, etc, etc, its nearly $60K. Above my paygrade. Went with a Venza LE. Out the door with add-ons for $40K . I get 38mpg- 46mpg on 18" wheels. I did later add after market speakers and a self powered sub woofer. Incredible sound
Your energy level for this piece perfectly matched the grey paint.
Finally a station wagon!
I drove one. I really like the car. The only detractor was the engine noise. It was buzzy and droned. Not a deal killer but it’s noticeable.
Most of these hybrid 4 cylinders are buzzy because they have a different operating cycle and are pinged at the optimum RPM at all times. I really would rather have an EV over these
It's the ecvt, since there's no fixed gears and no simulated gears, it will drone
I have a Venza and yeah it sounds horrible if you floor it, but for 95% of my driving, it's a pleasant quiet drive.
Unacceptable for a 50k car. Customers need to stop putting up with this. But a used Lexus instead.
@@Akabari100this is exactly why I don’t pay attention to those comments. You don’t notice during regular driving especially when you have music playing.
The front is a Toyota Purosangue 👍
Mazda CX-5
thats the jdm crown sport
prius did it first, so i'd argue the opposite. ferrari prius.
Priusangue
We need the freaking Crown Sport
That green gray color looks killer with that Brown interior.
Everything is great about this vehicle except for the droning engine and no spare tire. Aside from that, soft riding and quiet. I'd buy it!
I realized about 3w ago this is possibly the best reasonably priced DD on the market in terms of purchase not lease.
Speaking of reasonably priced DDs... Ur mom
Did you drive it and enjoy the drone?
@bassandtrebleclef it's becoming nearly inescapable in vehicles like this. I honestly don't care.
@@bassandtrebleclefyou only really hear it when overtaking. At least Toyota SUVs are reliable...
Honestly, this would make a great commuter without calling attention to yourself like the GM counterparts. Modest & sleek. I honestly would not mind parking this at B rated Arby’s or at the bougie steakhouse that forces me to shower first before waking in.
Forces you to shower, how oppressive! Gah!
Buying one of these in March. Red/Saddle fully loaded.
Big Avalon Energy 💪
1994 Camry Le was $21k that is $44k inflation adjusted same as this. I'd buy it.
Sure, but components/paint etc. were higher quality. Inflation equals cost cutting everywhere, trust their margins haven't stayed the same.
@@ADUSN Agree, my 1999 Lexus has awesome paint quality, still looks great. This is a more advanced and features rich with a reliable drivetrain. Paint is gonna need some extra care.
@@ADUSNhave you driven a 1999 Camry? Wow, what a plastic sardine can. No thanks.
@@AlphaOmega333 Im sayin... people always find something to complain about on new cars
1994 Toyotas were great cars - reliable, well made. This thing will not be that.
Very nice. Toyota appears to be taking their styling, layout to the next level.
Well Done. Thank you for this.
For some reason this looks much sleeker than most BMWs, Hyundais or Volkswagens. I never thought I'd see the day.
I'm not at all the target demo for this car, but man... I would love one of these things! Feels like the right move after a 1st Gen Venza
i hate this whole "no spare tire" thing that's going on these days. so dumb.
I wonder how this compares to the new Mazda CX50 with the toyota hybrid system. They seem about the same size, luxury, dynamics. I know you just reviewed the CX50 and would appreciate your thoughts.
the Crown Signia is a whole category higher, bigger and much more comfortable
CX-50 is comparable to RAV4
I think it's quite straightforward, this is definitely a better car all-around and it's more comfortable, while cx50-h is just a lot cheaper. If you can afford crown, get a crown, if you want to save, get cx50-h.
Both this and the Rav4 are bigger
Even when Mark is just banging out a review, it is some of the best stuff on RUclips. Connoisseur quality, baby
Limited to a couple thousand of them ? Dealer mark-up galore! 😂
Those times are over. Especially for a quite expensive Toyota.
If I was looking for a new car, the Crown Signia is what I'd want to buy.
Our family’s 2011 venza has been about bulletproof. 180k+ miles and it’s never given us a crazy bill. Differential seal had to be redone and one time the coolant dumped out of it on a long trip but no damage to the engine. Just needed new hoses. It is loud tho and we added extra insulation to help with road noise.
I have been watching this for the last year or so, I had been considering a Lexus NX300h, and I was motivated enough to get one. Partly that was the packages associated with the Lexus, requiring me to buy a bunch of stuff I didn't want to get a built in charger, coupled with the strict simplicity of Crown Signia configuration, XLE or Limited. Granted I am likely the target market, middle-aged with adult children, but it does deliver. The market is quiet sure what to do about this car so you can get the Crown Signia XLE for $3k or so off TSRP. If you want a reasonable light lux vehicle without glitz this is good option.
Baby's got back. That's what impressed me the most.
Saw a red one on the road yesterday. Really nice looking. Does look small in person.
Love the interior on this and would enjoy seeing more of these over all the CUV's and SUV's...
Mark, until this was released, it was at the top of my buying list. Then, I found out NO SPARE. I know; I know, there are lots of vehicles without spares. Fine. I won't be buying any of them. The run-flat tires are a fantasy - ask anyone who has owned one . . . What I really don't get is that this model, in other geographies, apparently has a spare. My next vehicle will likely be the 2026 Honda Passport. Sorry, Toyota.
Thank you for doing such a great job of explaining the technical points of the car. I’m not a car geek. A lot of stuff just goes over my head and I don’t want to have to look things up to understand the car jargon.
I think its pretty sweet. I wouldn't buy it, but it is sweet. I can appreciate a car for being a good vehicle. Doesn't look like every other appliance either inside or outside. Well done.
That interior looks like its from a different decade.
Thank you, Toyota. 👍👍
VW should've taken a page of out Toyota's book...
Just needs a digital column shifter.
if they lower it about 1-2 inches and make it a wagon, this would catch my attention. I want to use a cargo box without buying a hatchback (too short) or a sedan (not enough utility) and still be able to fit inside a standard garage (crossovers too tall with box). I saw a Subaru STI hatchback the other day with a roof box and hitch, that was perfect for me if it was just longer. Sadly wagons only exist with European brands, I'm not interested in Euro brands. Toyota with their dynamic assembly lines, I'm still shock they don't take a chance to add a wagon to the line up.
Because the masses won't buy it. In Europe and Asia, they do make wagons for most there sedan models as that's still a popular option out there.
Here in the US, crossovers and SUVs and the big sellers out side of the Camry and Corolla which still sell enough,but if we see a massive dip when the new rav 4 comes out, I expect them to slowly fade them out of the US market as well. It sucks as I like sedans and more so wagons for what they are and the price bracket they sell in, but companies nowadays have to sell in bigger margins and only keep more niche products to a minimum. That's why I'm still shocked the Miata is still around.
How is a hatchback too short? Hatchbacks are really enough for 90% of the population but this is a nation of huge cars and overconsumption.
1 to 2 inches is nothing a decent of springs or coilover cant fix if you really love everything else though. Sometimes you have to go the extra mile for yourself if you really want it. I can imagine it would look good though lowered to look like a nice sleigh/wagon.
Except for one HUGE MAJOR problem, Toyota did a really good job on the Signia.. BUT... The huge problem is.. and I mean HUGE problem - with the Crown Signia is the far, FAR too low roofline and an overly sleeky-ness design,.. which results in very bad outward visibility (in all directions). This low roof also results in lack of room in the cabin, and just lack of relaxing comfort.. And the lack of good visibility is a very serious safety concern when driving the Crown Signia.. This is/was the exact same story that the Venza had. If only Toyota would have made it more boxy, much less sleek, and raised the roofline about 4" or 5" inches for both the Venza and this Crown Signia .. They would both be really REALLY nice vehicles.. Also note that the reviewer (Jack) is a great guy and great reviewer.. but I guess that he is about only about 5' 7" tall or so.. For him this Signia may work ok.. But for anyone over about 5' 9" or if you have passengers over 5' 9" - the problems I wrote above could make the Cignia not work out so well for them.. BTW.. I'm 6' 2" ..
I understand what you mean, but I guess if you're the practical type that cares about backseats and visibility they want you to pick between the Rav4 and the Lexus NX depending on your budget.
It’s a wagon. Low roofline is one of the ways wagons are different from crossovers. Making it boxier would just make it the same as every other crossover SUV out there.
@@enmass90 Yea.. You are right.. This Signia is more of a hatchback or wagon.. Which I am not interested in.. But it would be so nice if Toyota would come out with a Crown Signia SUV.. Just keep everything in the Crown Signia the same.. BUT just raise the roof about 4" to 6" inches.. Then you would have a really great SUV..
I thought the roof line looks too high, I wanted it to look MORE wagon like haha
@@monstamastarc You're fine.. You buy whatever you want.. If you like a low roof and poor outward visibility (very unsafe).. Go for it... Just make sure that (in case of a severe car accident) you have real good health/hospital insurance for you and your passengers. Long stays in a hospital intensive car unit is SUPER expensive, and almost always life changing for the worst - if you survive the accident.. Of course, a one way trip to the cemetery is no fun either. I like to have good outward visibility in my driving to drive safely and avoid a severe accident.. Good luck to you..
Would have 100% bought one of these instead of my Lexus if it was out at the time
A really interesting body design! Yes, the side even looks sleek, despite being an SUV. The rear bulky but in a cool way. The front grill not a Toyota-typical scream of agony. And the wheel arches have only a small black lining and it's glossy, i.e. really focusing on looks not functionality.
If I had to drive an SUV, this one would be among my favorites. (But I would still relatively hate it.)
If I didn’t love my peej & off roading this would be my perfect vehicle.
My parents are looking at PHEVs. If this was one, I'd recommend it to them
I’d actually get this, but audio systems are important to me. Would the after market be able to help here?
The inlaws got one a few months ago. Its a rather amazing daily.
I'm old.
I love this.
Looks very nice. Always liked the Venza as well.
An underrated Toyota model. The styling has held up well
I wish they would bring this interior dash layout to other vehicles. I hate the huge sweeping plastic air vent, for example, on the Camry.
This is what I wish the Outback looked like.
I have to go see these in person.. The 21" wheels seems stupid and the tires would be around $500 each... I'd have to really love it. Its down to this and the Highlander/Grand Highlander..
They're 19" and a great tire replacement is under $250. ea
@journeyman291 limited is 21
The 2021 Venza did not have electronic (or manual) passenger seat adjustment. Does this Crown?
On dealer lots the price spread btw xle and limited is more like 10k.
Where I live, I saw one posted for 100k CAD. You have to be fucking insane to spend 100k on this.
Which dealer is this? You can actually report this to Toyota Canada.
😂😂
begging for them to lower it, it just needs to be a proper wagon LOL
"Appeals to an older audience"
Damn I didn't realize me being 23 is already considered old 😢
Stylish new Subaru, no question. Weirdly enough, seems better and more modern than most Lexus models.
This or the new Mazda cx50 hybrid? Seems pretty similar, Mazda being more affordable while not being built in Japan (but still good quality)
This would be perfect for me I can tell. I just wished it had fog lights and more ground clearance. Otherwise, I think it was made for me!
If it has the 3.5 liter V6, I'd buy it in a second.
I hate that powertrain, though.
So wait....is this an SUV, CUV, lifted wagon, wagon, or car/sedan? I think this is pretty cool. Maybe ill try one.
It's a cross over!!!
it's basically a wagon that's slightly lifted, like a Subaru Outback, it sits quite abit lower than a Rav 4 or Highlander.
it's a wagon lifted just enough to qualify to be a crossover so the american market will buy it
6:14 Oh, hi Mark!
Now this makes a lot more sense! Yet, it just feels too big for what interior space there actually is... Almost like it is bulky by design and could easily be smaller.
Nah
I have owned 10 motorcycles, 4 of them I rode on long distance trips. (California to Illinois round trip) I don’t even remember whether I worried about flat tires or not, but I never had one. But these days, I have given up on motorcycles. I worry too much. I can’t imagine having a car with no spare tire. Especially one with low profile tires, they can cause a damaged wheel. Then what? Get towed to a dealer and hope they have a wheel in stock?
I actually love it 😭
Will never beat the peak commuter vehicle; the honda crosstour
id love a Crown but they aren't tax efficient where i live. you're better off getting a plug-in hybrid or a full electric car when buying it as a company car... too bad but i can't complain driving a young low mileage second hand bmw 530e, instead, at about half the price of owning a Crown. also, i just checked, seems like they're not available anymore in Belgium :(
This is undeniably (don't even try to deny it!!!) one of the cars of all time.
Is this vehicle better than the Toyota Rav4 Lited hybrid and Honda CRV touring hybrid?
Toyota replacing the venza again sheesh
Is this more than just a higher-trimmed RAV4 hybrid??
No spare tire
I can't think of a single car that doesn't come with a can of Fix-A-Flat these days.
Welcome to 2010
This car looks great
Seems like the closest one could get to a Toyota station wagon, in the states at least.
So close to giving us a wagon
It's so weird that the Venza has a HUD and this doesn't. Even on the highest trim.
I’d probably get it if I were living in my car.
Definitely lowering and throwing rims on it.
But when can I lower it into a wagon?
wish cars had a front middle seat or a flat bench
What happened to the guy that used to do the videos with him? Why doesn't he appear in the whole video anymore?
I would love a signia but not until they use the hybrid max powertrain, Crown is supposed to be high end but only the price is and not the power.
I have a v-6 Highlander 22, is it worth it ti change it for a crown ?
This is more luxurious and nicer looking, in my opinion. If you can afford it, go for it
Statistically, this car will outlast 50% of marriages.
I saw a lowered, blacked out Crown on HRE’s and it looked mean. Looked like a Purosangue.
This or an NX350h? The pricing really makes you question your decision here. There’s definitely some cannibalization here.
The NX is quite a bit smaller, you should compare the Crown it to the RX in terms of size.
NX platform is probably due a replacement soon tbh, the Crown is much more mechanically modern and is a bigger class of car.
Id buy one of these and instantly lower it :)
the hybrid in this is 4th gen or 5th gen ?
Love this but they should of brought the crown sport over instead
I wonder if they're gonna bring the more sports SUV version I kept seeing in Tokyo. It looks much better than this one.
Is it better than my Pontiac Aztec?
I can’t wait to get one and attract all the lesbians in my area!
The drivetrain may last forever but the exterior gloss black trim and center console will likely look like trash within 18 months.
Frugal retiree dream car, not an insult
Toyobaru Crownback
I thought the same thing
I Rather trade my 2022 Toyota Venza XLE to a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited with every option that get 42 miles per gallon and pretty much has all the same options and cost about 10,000 dollars less
Zero chance of a) Finding one , b) Finding on that isnt marked up excessively by the stealership
Get one before it gets discontinued in North America.
Did you say nickel hydride ? Not lithium ion ?
Most toyotas use NMH because it works better in the cold.
Ah, Toyota is finally playing the scarcity game.
Whelp, hoping it was sporty
I have no idea why you’d fork over the extra for an RX or NX when you get the exact same engine drone and similar levels (YES, a Lexus is nicer) of luxury inside.
If the crown signia were closer to a V90 CC or A4 allroad in height, ie. closer to being a crown estate, and if it were PHEV, I'd probably trade out of my V60 PHEV. the sound system would have to be REALLY bad rule it out. But canada only gets the top trim, so fixed pano glass sunroof only (which suck for hauling kayaks) and gas economy isn't even rated that much better with the hybrid max drivetrain vs what i currently get with my T8 in real world use.
The jbl stereos in Toyotas are not good.
They would sell here in europe...
I think I have seen a grand total of one Toyota Crown on the road ever since they went on sale in the US, doesn't seem real popular.
That’s funny, because I’ve seen a ton of them in my area. Much more than the Avalon it replaced.
They didn't use the magic "get sales in the US" formula: Make it a crossover.
Needs a Lift and Wheels.
Not seem high, it is high.