In the original video, it was clear that the Germans muted the audio, but I installed 7 touch screens at my desk to combat this, and now this video has proper audio.
Because almost no one cares, except for a very few luxury cars. I’d never make my car decisions based on stock car audio performance. Cars will always have inferior audio. Spend your money at home.
@@f.kieranfinney457 the BMW Bower’s and Wilkins diamond system is the only reason I committed to buying an iX. Audio is definitely important, it’s the only “entertainment” feature we can use safely while driving. We can’t safely read or watch tv while driving. That leaves audio as the only entertainment.
@@f.kieranfinney457 Imo sound systems have the potential to sound even better than at home, thanks to the sound absorption of interior materials and relative positioning of the speakers that is difficult to emulate at home (at a reasonable price).
Just as an FYI, if you lean on the saftey systems too much to correct your lane position, it will use the rear brakes A LOT to make corrections, to the point that they may overheat, and wear the pads in like 5-10k miles.
I had a 2010 JK Wrangler that did that although not to the point of overheating. No lane keeping obviously, but just VSC "helping" in every corner. Computer was chewing up rear brakes. I drive a 2019 BMW X3 now and it's not happening. The bimmer is using some kind of torque vectoring instead.
My sister has one of these and I love when’s she brings it around so I can whip around in this thing. It’s the perfect refined SUV with an absolutely masterful ride for total comfort, but you can throw it in sport and it becomes quite a bit of fun. Perfect for someone who wants a little but of enjoyment while not sacrificing anything in total comfort mode.
We own a 2022 MDX Advanced and we won't own another Acura product. Not because of issues, any car and all cars have issues. For me it comes down to how you're treated as a customer and how Acura handles those issues. Acura is a faux luxury brand that's probably dying and as such they seem to be cutting corners in the customer experience. They do not do loaners for maintenance and for repairs it's up to the dealer. That's a huge problem because that means I need to carve out half a day and as a business owner spending that time sitting at a dealer doing nothing is pretty brutal. More importantly Acura doesn't like standing behind their product. Case in point? Our driver's seat. I've owned dozens of cars and never had a seat structure fail but our driver's seat outside lower cushion bolster began to fail. The failure was related to the seat structure and the way the bolster was engineered. The bolster itself was fine. The whole thing literally began to detach from the rest of the seat frame. A known issues. I'm 6'6 and 200 lbs my wife weighs about 115. Neither of us are big people. The the bolster began separating, an online search showed this to be a common problem. I notified the dealer that I'd need to have that looked at and repaired on my next visit. We are still under the bumper to bumper warranty. Fast forward a few weeks, I take the car in, after reviewing it they said Acura was not covering it because this was "wear and tear". This is most definitely not wear and tear, it's not the leather cracking or getting ripped it's the physical structure of the seat that failed resulting in the bolster pulling away from the rest of the seat structure. I referred the dealer to similar issues reported by others, they said they agreed but Acura wasn't covering it and so I needed to escalate it and they would do the same. I logged into our Acura account that weekend and submitted the inquiry. In the inquiry I included links to several others reporting the same issue as well as Acura's own internal notification to dealers which was on NHTSA's website regarding the problem. Acura replied very quickly and promptly told me no saying "this fails to meet warranty parameters" whatever the hell that means. I sent a reply asking for clarification, to which they replied this isn't under warranty, a vague response. I replied back with all my info again (Keep in mind this was in the initial submission) stating my vehicles age, miles, problem as well as reminding them Acura is well aware of this issue. The reply? Not covered, this time they sent back a snipped from the warranty book, of which I also possess a copy. I replied back to Acura with add'l info from their warranty book as well as some state law on issues like this. Acura agreed to repair it. After I spent tons of time going back forth on an issue that was a slam dunk for basic warranty repair. We will NOT own another Acura and this has also soured us on Honda, of which we were planning to buy for our kids. As soon as the warranty and our already paid for extended service contract is over, the Acura is going away. They will not get another dime from me after such absurdity.
@@Hefe179 great question. I ask myself that a lot. I grew up loving Acura products and the vehicle gets a lot of things right. For example, the ergonomics and control reach is great for my wife and I both. This is rare given my height. The seats are fantastic and it’s reasonably quiet. The Acura was my wife’s top pick because she liked the three row at the price of the X5 so we went Acura. Won’t happen again.
Wow. I've never had any issues with my Acura's. Outside of a recall. My dealer gets me a loaner car whenever I take it in. I guess my only gripe with them is the loaner car is usually an Integra without the manual transmission.
That's what you see in the Japanese "luxury" brands. Their models are just up-badged consumer brand models. The entire line up is a line of "cutting corners". You'll hear "well the japanese brands have low cost of ownership" that's because they're cheap cars dressed up as expensive cars.
I was cross shopping between the MDX-S and X5 40i (m-sport). I went to 4 different dealerships for each. 3 out of the 4 Acura dealerships wouldn't budge below MSRP and the last one was willing to do $1,500 off (loyal rebate) however slapped some BS add-ons like ceramic coating, lo-jack ect.. So in the end it was still more expensive. On BMW side of things, from the 1st to the last, I was offered 3% off to the last one coming in at 9% off. With my CCA BMW membership, I was able to get another 1K off a new X5. So in the end, I custom ordered a nearly fully optioned X5 40i M-sport, got 10K off, vehicle was delivered in 3 weeks of ordering and out the door cost (NJ) was just under the MDX-S at MSRP. The thing that is really killing Acura right now are their prices and not willing to budge under MSRP especially on those Type-s trims were every single one of the dealers I walked into had 5K ADM on the integra's type-s.. Asking 80K for an MDX-S, a performance SUV, that honestly lacks the performance and fuel economy of it's competition, it's a hard pill to swallow when you can walk into the competition and get a better price for a better vehicle. Acura needs to understand it's not the type of brand for the money.
@@Big_Red1 it says you have to be a member for one year before rebates! I have to join even though I don't have a BMW that I don't want to buy until I get a rebate! Wow!
Totally. I went to try the type s but no dealership would let me, when I went to bmw they were like here’s the key bring it back when you done. Let’s be honest here the type s is a good suv but how they treated it like it’s a national treasure is just laughable. Also the second row I just can’t get comfortable with, felt like I was sitting on the floor.
Whoever convinced Acura to give up their Sport Hybrid system (it was in the RLX, and the MDX Sport Hybrid; it was a J35 paired with a mild hybrid system) should be fired
@willybehan770 As the owner of an MDX Hybrid, I've been preaching those exact words for years now, lol. Acura's hybrid system with their decently quick in-house dual clutch was and still is years ahead of what's currently in the hybrid market. Full electric cars are fast off the line, but i don't have the time to charge 20-30mins during work and family trips.
I don't love the styling of the new Lexus RX500h but its certainly the closest competitor - typically around 26MPG vs the 17MPG of the MDX-S. Same 5.5s 0-60 time.
All about $$ for current gen of mdx and rdx Acura doesn’t get enough money to modify the design it for hybrid. Integra in other hand is heavily based on civic so developing a hybrid version should be straightforward.
@@Jeez001 Yes but the power train already existed…so I don’t know why they killed it off? The current mdx still has a J35…the rdx tho I can see why that wouldn’t have a hybrid
My BMW 5 series was nice and felt so special in it. It it all changed with all sorts of issues. Viewed fhe Acura MDX and we will probably buy one soon.
This generation of Acura is so underrated. They've done a lot of things right here and I hope they continue in this direction, but it pains me to see how little they sell, especially the TLX.
Bad dealers, piano black gloss BS, bad fuel economy…it’s in a competitive segment and these obvious issues will continue to hold it back. The BMW and Mercedes dealerships are light years ahead in buying and maintenance experience.
We have a 2023 TYPE S since new about 26,000 miles. Absolutely no regrets. The air suspension is great, as is the Audio, seat, etc. Easy and inexpensive to maintain. Would buy another in a heartbeat.
The gas mileage on the MDX Type S is absurd and insulting for the lack of performance compared to real luxury rivals. I owned a 2024 GLE 53 and averaged 19-22 mpg with 429 HP and 413 lb-ft of torque. I traded it in for a 2025 GLE 63s and the dealership sold the 53 Certified Pre-Owned for $79K with less than 10K miles. Superior performance, better gas mileage, and far more luxury for only a few thousand dollars more (Type S is ~$76K) while retaining the factory warranty + 12 months of unlimited miles on the Mercedes CPO program. I'm glad Acura fixed the infotainment to a degree, but the archaic digital gauge cluster and Acura claiming that Type S is a "performance luxury vehicle" is inappropriate for this price point. Acura is not offering a bargain in this segment. They aren't competing at all. It's a different class vehicle.
100%. Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes compete in the mid-sized luxury performance SUV segment. To a slightly lesser degree, so does Audi. Acura does not. The MDX is a nice vehicle and I did consider it. But I bought a loaded 2024 X5 with the B58 and have zero regrets.
I own a 2025 M4 and have driven the BMW suvs. My wife has a 2023 MDX Type S. We have had the MDX for a little over a year and just got back from a 1500 mile road trip. The air suspension in comfort mode and powertrain is highly underrated on the Type S. It's not something that appears on a spec sheet, but for a ton of reasons I wouldn't trade the MDX for an X5 or X7 of any trim. There's a smoothness to the whole thing that just doesn't happen with the BMWs. Also, we averaged 24mpg going 82mph on the trip...
Here’s what you’re missing though… Acura will discount the hell out of these. I got my MDX Type S Advance for just under $67K. At that price point, it was a no brainer for me. I am OK with the 21mpg I get, though I do wish the range was better (only get around 320-330 miles per tank or so). If you want the best of the best, this isn’t it. BUT, if you want 90% of a BMW/Mercedes with a lesser drivetrain that is still more than enough for boatloads less money, then the MDX Type S could be the one for you. It was for me!
I just tried to “build” a 75k X5. Once I chose actual leather which the Type S has, I’m at 76k. This is BEFORE I’ve selected any options. Once I start selecting options that are already standard on the Acura, I’m above 80K easy.
Had a 2023, loved it for the most part. Obviously one of the shortcomings was the touch pad system (crazy on a car of this caliber in 2023), and the wireless charging overheated my iPhone constantly. I wound up just plugging in the phone to charge it. Air suspension sometimes seemed to have a mind of its own, raising and lowering at stoplights. Aside from that, amazing car - very quick, quiet, smooth, and yes, one of the best sound systems in the world.
I'm sorry, I like my vehicles to be reliable, low maintenance, and affordable. Throw in precision engineering, great styling and durability and I choose the MDX every time. When the MDX, I thought it was a class leader, it still is!
Loved this review! Reminds me of some of the earliest years of savagegeese videos when the driving segment went a little more in detail in terms of how the car felt dynamically/ride ect
100% we are “still” (actually switching) buying German- we are on our 2nd MDX a 2019 & it’s had a couple issues including a leaking radiator & forward collision camera going bad @ 75k miles to the tune of $1800, the X5 xDrive4.0 is actually cheaper, has more HP, a lot more TQ & gets much better MPG on top of it!! People reporting 23-26 mpg on avg & both our standard 2015 & 2019 MDXs only managed 20-22 tops, while the type S gets like 17!!! I’ll take more power/TQ, better handling, & nearly 10mpg better gas mileage w/ a lower price any day!!!!
If you're concerned about an $1,800 repair @75K miles, you are about to have your eyes opened going German. You will spend way more than that, way before 75K miles, multiple times, on stuff that shouldn't be breaking. Regret will soon set in - trust me.
@@x06sixyou sound like some rando who either: A. Has never owned a German car and you’re just regurgitating what car reviewers tell you or B. You owned a German car in the early 2000’s or you owned a very old German car or C. You owned Audis. With the exception of VW and Audi, German cars have become increasingly reliable. BMW is probably the most reliable of the three.
I got me a 2008 Acura MDX with only 109,000 miles yesterday for only $8850. It had just had the timing belt and waterpump replaced! I will be driving this until 2050! Buy a 2007, 2008, or a 2009 MDX. You will never regret it! Mine still looks like new. Acura rules!
I’ve owned a type s and now own an x7. The type s is an incredible vehicle. Comfortable and actually fun to drive. However, the MPG is below average. And coupled with a smaller gas tank (18.5 gallons) you are getting a paltry range of 350 miles. The X7 has better room, is more luxurious, and gets 26mpg on average. Coupled with a 22 gallon g tank the X7 has a range of 570 miles to one tank. That’s a 32% improvement in MPG and a 63% increase in range…. Plus, the push button controls on the acura are terrible. It’s a tech that nobody wants and fortunately many are going to away from. Look at the new Suburbans / tahoes and the like. The new stalk for 25 is much improved to the outgoing model.
I will never not despise hood shut lines. Why can't they just extend the hood 3 more inches to the grill edge like they do on the cheaper RDX that looks so much more elegant?!
Elegant design, for me the winner of the year or nexts in design, sure also in engine similar to all Japanese and Americans brand's, but I prefer Volvo for the resistant materials on the roof, front, back and sides. The safety of you, your family and pedestrians should be #1.
The problem for MDX is fuel consumption. And the review model is type s and that price range around X5 or GLE ball park with better luxury package and fuel consumption. Acura still need to fix the fuel consumption.
@@star9732yes, mostly because of the range between fill ups, not so much the cost. For people that have to drive alot, having to stop to fill up a lot gets annoying.
I am still confused between this (non type s) and pilot. They are same length wheelbase, almost same length but pilot is much more practical. I think Acura just tried to make it look more "sporty" by lengthening the hood and not out necessity, given engine and wheel placement doesn't move.
S type starts at 76k after a few options you’re close to 80k or over I’m sorry but that much I would go German IMO Acura is no longer or rather is on the lower end of “ luxury” brand
Fully loaded Type S is 75K, not 80K. That’s still A LOT cheaper and more reliable than most German options today. A loaded X5 with the fake “M”trim is $96K+ (but has a better engine of course), all other brands give you a rattly 4-cyl for more cash. This V6 MDX is a bargain even if you are leasing.
@@andrewgus8763bro the bmw X 5 is higher ranking than this ugly Acura wtf are you smoking 🥷!!! Lmao you can go to every single car review channel and they all agree the bmw X5 and that B-58 engine is the best on the market!! Please check your notes kid! Don’t ever compare this ugly and slow Acura to the ultimate driving machine 🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈
@@andrewgus8763wtf are you talking about bro this car is rated by J.D power at 80/100 and the bmw X5 is rated also 80/100 so your statement is wrong! Lmao the BMW X5 is miles ahead it has better option then that ugly slow Acura! If you go to every car review channel they all agree the bmw X5 is far superior and better quality and better performance and better buck for your money! Nice try kid go back to school and learn about cars!! Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈
@@andrewgus8763 the X5 with the b58 and well optioned is around 80k USD (M sport, driving assistance etc) . Not sure if you’re referencing a different currency?
@@andrewgus8763a loaded X5 does not start at 96k. Send me that build. Yes, a fake M costs around $100k, but that is a different league than the Type S.
A big advantage is something they didn't change. The V6. I hope acura hears the complaints from Lexus buys and don't get rid of the V6 in the next gen. I think they should offer a 4 turbo but also offer a v6 for those who want it.
I must be 1 of a handful of people that prefer the 1 to 1 touch interface of the old infotainment. And its weird to see Mark welcome the touchscreen considering he's a button guy.
I'll join that handful of people. I think it's pretty good, actually. I'm 39 and came from other brands with pretty good touch screens, and including a 11g civic as well that has the touch screen. I like the 1:1 touch interface in the RDX i own better. I dunno why. It's simple, easy, and frankly you're not interacting with it most of the time anyway even if it was a buggaboo.
I think based on price alone the MDX type s has its hands full competing with the q7. The line up really good in that regard. X5 or x7 are better for more money though. I just don't know if someone does legit cross shopping and drives a GV80 or Q7 prestige, and chooses the type s MDX.
X5 with M sport suspension has a very firm uncomfortable ride quality. Drove the X5 coil over suspension (base X5) and its way to bouncy over road imperfections for a luxury vehicle. I'm hoping MDX type S does a better job with ride quality.
My sister has a 2017 MDX, fully loaded. She loves it but when I had a loaner Q7 for my A4 she was very smitten. She noted three things, better ride quality, quieter on the highway and much btter interior materials than hers. Now hers is older yes but she has looked at the 2023 model and wasnt impressed over the Q7.
I wish Honda would make air ride an option on the regular MDX. Or make another hybrid to make fuel economy better like they had before and give that air ride. My biggest issue with MDX is fuel economy.
@@ARentz07 unless you’re buying the car for someone else, I don’t think there’s a point in recognizing a “good” system For me, there’s two things I do which is look for a flat frequency response. I do this with a hertz sweep and seeing if the volume stays the same. Then I also listen to a live recording and see how close to the live performance it sounds like.
@@KhanJoltrane Yeah i have been around crappy speakers all my life so its interesting to learn about what makes a good audio system "good" because I feel that most can tell the difference between high end vs low end.
@Que67kdro90 I had a CX-90 as a rental, and it was the most mixed-bag experience I've had in a while. Nice interior space. Great engine. Horrible rough tranmission and stiff ride. Not a great option from where I am sitting.
I don't get the hard on for these 30+ speaker audio systems? Must be a processing nightmare! Would be interested how it compares to a decent aftermarket system though. The midrange dip prob helps to keep vocals from sounding like they are in your face.
Yep. I had to turn some of the midrange frequencies down a bit because of that on our 2023 Type S using a 12 band eq. All the speakers, if well tuned like the Type S, does give good imaging in both the front and middle row which doesn't happen in smaller systems.
They should have give custumers more air vents in the second and third row even the CX-90 has third row vents even though they are at kneel level but a vent is a vent😃. The CX-90 just need a liitle more insolation materials, fix the transmission, add door sensors on the rear doors, off a bench seat because not everyone love captian chairs, more interior space, and lastly please make better infotanment system that has full touch capabilites.
Is there still no hybrid option for the MDX? I currently own one, and it’s a real gas guzzler. With the Lexus RX now offering 35 mpg, it feels like the MDX has fallen behind (I drive a lot). I also preferred the previous generation's double-line tail lamps-the classic Acura MDX look, almost as iconic as the Porsche’s signature rear lights. It’s disappointing that they changed such a beautiful detail to something that, frankly, looks a bit off and whatever.
If I’m buying BRAND NEW and planning to change just right before 4 years (warranty expires), I’ll buy German, because Germans are better in performance, handling, tech and luxury. But if I’m going to keep my car over 6-10 years, I’ll go Japanese (Especially Lexus or Acura) because the Japanese has higher reliability, cheaper to maintain/service and higher resale value.
MDX more comparable to X7 in terms of size. I had a 2022 MDX type S and found the 350hp week and the 21mpg lower than it should be. Handling and stereo were great and who knew I 'needed' a seat massager!
Don't think I'd like the touchy brakes especially around the city in stop and go traffic. I'm assuming this only applies to the Type-s with the Brembo brakes?
With a $25-30k budget (used vehicles fine), what would you guys pick for a mid sized sedan or small SUV? Want something fun but reliable and not horrible gas mileage. Virginia taxes the hell out of vehicles beyond $20k so don't want to go too high. Also don't want to go older than 2017 or so.
The rest of the world can't even get the Pilot. You guys should be grateful. The closest one we can get is the Civic Type R, which already gone from the sales 😢
The only thing you needed to say was that it has a touchscreen. I almost put my fist through the screen and I literally traded it in on a GV70 the same day.
We love our 22 A-Spec and with the NA V6, we know it will run long past the warranty. The right amount of tech and buttons. I like the fact that there are no finger prints on the screen due to the touch pad. Yes, it takes some getting used to, but worth it. The AWD system is awesome. In the snow, you can certainly get some great rotation out of it. It never feels FWD like our Atlas did. Certainly a keeper!
I could not re create it this time. I was told there were calibrations changed and it felt like it. However was changed is internal honda knowledge only. It felt much better in this Type S compared to before.
have you seen how ugly the TX is? If you'd settle for that just for the fuel economy, might as well wait for the grand highlander to be fixed and go full economy.
@@jorgeguzman8083 hence why I say go for the Grand Highlander. Nothing about the TX is worth the premium price. Lexus is just robbing people these days.
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In the original video, it was clear that the Germans muted the audio, but I installed 7 touch screens at my desk to combat this, and now this video has proper audio.
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awesome 🤣
They got mad when you asked them why they can't install physical HVAC controls while Dacia can.
the precision crafted performance was emanating too vivdly during the drive segment causing the issues
Dang them Germans that jelly with them Japaneses
If I don’t buy German, how will my wife’s boyfriend know I’m rich and successful??
Just take up fly fishing…he’ll know then
He will know you are a budget shopper shopping price with a Toyota product.
Just add "old sport" to the end of every other sentence and put a lighthouse outside of your dock which shines a green light for all to see.
With the Rolex that you "lent" your wife to your AD for.
@@jwill6008 lol
The car looks like it was dipped in pink in the thumbnail, perfect colour for my wife’s midlife crisis
Pink looks great on this car
@@thndr_5468hello sailor.
indeed, i was a bit disappointed when i realized it wasnt actually pink
Going for the new Jaguar look I guess
What I like most about this channel is data based review of AUDIO. Almost all reviewers ignore this.
That's why savagegeese are the best
Yep under appreciated portion
Because almost no one cares, except for a very few luxury cars. I’d never make my car decisions based on stock car audio performance. Cars will always have inferior audio. Spend your money at home.
@@f.kieranfinney457 the BMW Bower’s and Wilkins diamond system is the only reason I committed to buying an iX. Audio is definitely important, it’s the only “entertainment” feature we can use safely while driving. We can’t safely read or watch tv while driving. That leaves audio as the only entertainment.
@@f.kieranfinney457 Imo sound systems have the potential to sound even better than at home, thanks to the sound absorption of interior materials and relative positioning of the speakers that is difficult to emulate at home (at a reasonable price).
Just as an FYI, if you lean on the saftey systems too much to correct your lane position, it will use the rear brakes A LOT to make corrections, to the point that they may overheat, and wear the pads in like 5-10k miles.
@@singular9 Thats sounds like good miles compared to Type R.
I had a 2010 JK Wrangler that did that although not to the point of overheating. No lane keeping obviously, but just VSC "helping" in every corner. Computer was chewing up rear brakes. I drive a 2019 BMW X3 now and it's not happening. The bimmer is using some kind of torque vectoring instead.
I have a 2020 X5 and rear brakes worn at 36k. I was wondering why. Now I know. Idk if I’m going to shut those systems off or keep status quo
What's saftey?
@@drewyager4020afaik Honda and Acura are the only vehicles that drag an individual wheel to keep you in your lane.
“Hey guys, why are you cars so expensive?!”
- “Well, we have to put -31- speakers in there, which is what you all want, right??”
my previous car had 30, included tweeters inside the seat. It was a bmw iX with bowers & wilkins
@ Exactly my point! Madness!
I saw a SLAMMED MDX type S that almost looked like a wagon in Brooklyn the other day and thought people here would love it
The only cool slammed car that ive seen was a slammed first gen crv stickshift. It looked beautiful. Also in brooklyn
@@Jkub101 The boxy, slammed 1st gen CRV drives around Staten Island. Saw it few times and absolutely luv it.
Plenty of good looking low cars lol@@Jkub101
@@TermlessHGW if it was black driven by a younger guyanese guy then it's the same one. He did a great job on it!
Think I saw the same one, in tiger eye pearl😮?
I thought this was a nice lavender in the thumbnail, only to find out in the video that it's typical Dystopia Grey
Thought that was lilac for the exterior color because of the sun. What a beautiful car.
I said the same thing before watching the video. Almost thought it was wrapped!
Honda has been absolutely KILLING IT on external styling these past few years 👍
My sister has one of these and I love when’s she brings it around so I can whip around in this thing. It’s the perfect refined SUV with an absolutely masterful ride for total comfort, but you can throw it in sport and it becomes quite a bit of fun. Perfect for someone who wants a little but of enjoyment while not sacrificing anything in total comfort mode.
No lie i would absolutely watch you review a computer build or a high end headphone.
We own a 2022 MDX Advanced and we won't own another Acura product. Not because of issues, any car and all cars have issues. For me it comes down to how you're treated as a customer and how Acura handles those issues. Acura is a faux luxury brand that's probably dying and as such they seem to be cutting corners in the customer experience.
They do not do loaners for maintenance and for repairs it's up to the dealer. That's a huge problem because that means I need to carve out half a day and as a business owner spending that time sitting at a dealer doing nothing is pretty brutal.
More importantly Acura doesn't like standing behind their product. Case in point? Our driver's seat.
I've owned dozens of cars and never had a seat structure fail but our driver's seat outside lower cushion bolster began to fail. The failure was related to the seat structure and the way the bolster was engineered. The bolster itself was fine. The whole thing literally began to detach from the rest of the seat frame. A known issues. I'm 6'6 and 200 lbs my wife weighs about 115. Neither of us are big people. The the bolster began separating, an online search showed this to be a common problem. I notified the dealer that I'd need to have that looked at and repaired on my next visit. We are still under the bumper to bumper warranty.
Fast forward a few weeks, I take the car in, after reviewing it they said Acura was not covering it because this was "wear and tear". This is most definitely not wear and tear, it's not the leather cracking or getting ripped it's the physical structure of the seat that failed resulting in the bolster pulling away from the rest of the seat structure. I referred the dealer to similar issues reported by others, they said they agreed but Acura wasn't covering it and so I needed to escalate it and they would do the same.
I logged into our Acura account that weekend and submitted the inquiry. In the inquiry I included links to several others reporting the same issue as well as Acura's own internal notification to dealers which was on NHTSA's website regarding the problem. Acura replied very quickly and promptly told me no saying "this fails to meet warranty parameters" whatever the hell that means. I sent a reply asking for clarification, to which they replied this isn't under warranty, a vague response. I replied back with all my info again (Keep in mind this was in the initial submission) stating my vehicles age, miles, problem as well as reminding them Acura is well aware of this issue. The reply? Not covered, this time they sent back a snipped from the warranty book, of which I also possess a copy. I replied back to Acura with add'l info from their warranty book as well as some state law on issues like this.
Acura agreed to repair it. After I spent tons of time going back forth on an issue that was a slam dunk for basic warranty repair. We will NOT own another Acura and this has also soured us on Honda, of which we were planning to buy for our kids. As soon as the warranty and our already paid for extended service contract is over, the Acura is going away. They will not get another dime from me after such absurdity.
Why did you buy a car from a faux luxury brand that is dying?
@@Hefe179 great question. I ask myself that a lot. I grew up loving Acura products and the vehicle gets a lot of things right. For example, the ergonomics and control reach is great for my wife and I both. This is rare given my height. The seats are fantastic and it’s reasonably quiet.
The Acura was my wife’s top pick because she liked the three row at the price of the X5 so we went Acura.
Won’t happen again.
I've gotten a loaner twice while getting my RDX serviced. I guess it's up to the dealer.
Wow. I've never had any issues with my Acura's. Outside of a recall. My dealer gets me a loaner car whenever I take it in. I guess my only gripe with them is the loaner car is usually an Integra without the manual transmission.
That's what you see in the Japanese "luxury" brands. Their models are just up-badged consumer brand models. The entire line up is a line of "cutting corners". You'll hear "well the japanese brands have low cost of ownership" that's because they're cheap cars dressed up as expensive cars.
ITS FIXED!!!! thank you!!! awesome content!
I was cross shopping between the MDX-S and X5 40i (m-sport). I went to 4 different dealerships for each. 3 out of the 4 Acura dealerships wouldn't budge below MSRP and the last one was willing to do $1,500 off (loyal rebate) however slapped some BS add-ons like ceramic coating, lo-jack ect.. So in the end it was still more expensive. On BMW side of things, from the 1st to the last, I was offered 3% off to the last one coming in at 9% off. With my CCA BMW membership, I was able to get another 1K off a new X5. So in the end, I custom ordered a nearly fully optioned X5 40i M-sport, got 10K off, vehicle was delivered in 3 weeks of ordering and out the door cost (NJ) was just under the MDX-S at MSRP. The thing that is really killing Acura right now are their prices and not willing to budge under MSRP especially on those Type-s trims were every single one of the dealers I walked into had 5K ADM on the integra's type-s.. Asking 80K for an MDX-S, a performance SUV, that honestly lacks the performance and fuel economy of it's competition, it's a hard pill to swallow when you can walk into the competition and get a better price for a better vehicle. Acura needs to understand it's not the type of brand for the money.
what is a CCA BMW membership?
@@gosman949 BMW Car Club of America
@@gosman949 I think those two acronyms are reversed, it should be BMW CCA (BMW Car Club of America).
@@Big_Red1 it says you have to be a member for one year before rebates! I have to join even though I don't have a BMW that I don't want to buy until I get a rebate! Wow!
Totally. I went to try the type s but no dealership would let me, when I went to bmw they were like here’s the key bring it back when you done. Let’s be honest here the type s is a good suv but how they treated it like it’s a national treasure is just laughable. Also the second row I just can’t get comfortable with, felt like I was sitting on the floor.
This suv is 90% perfect. Add in a mild hybrid system to bump up the power to 400hp with a bump in mpg to 20+mpg and this thing is a winner.
Whoever convinced Acura to give up their Sport Hybrid system (it was in the RLX, and the MDX Sport Hybrid; it was a J35 paired with a mild hybrid system) should be fired
@willybehan770 As the owner of an MDX Hybrid, I've been preaching those exact words for years now, lol. Acura's hybrid system with their decently quick in-house dual clutch was and still is years ahead of what's currently in the hybrid market. Full electric cars are fast off the line, but i don't have the time to charge 20-30mins during work and family trips.
I don't love the styling of the new Lexus RX500h but its certainly the closest competitor - typically around 26MPG vs the 17MPG of the MDX-S. Same 5.5s 0-60 time.
All about $$ for current gen of mdx and rdx Acura doesn’t get enough money to modify the design it for hybrid. Integra in other hand is heavily based on civic so developing a hybrid version should be straightforward.
@@Jeez001 Yes but the power train already existed…so I don’t know why they killed it off? The current mdx still has a J35…the rdx tho I can see why that wouldn’t have a hybrid
My BMW 5 series was nice and felt so special in it. It it all changed with all sorts of issues. Viewed fhe Acura MDX and we will probably buy one soon.
what year model is your 5 series? I'm looking to get an X5 (prob M) but afraid of maintenance costs and crazy money pit.
Nice review, now I’d love to see these updates crossover to the RDX as well as the type S treatment
This generation of Acura is so underrated. They've done a lot of things right here and I hope they continue in this direction, but it pains me to see how little they sell, especially the TLX.
Bad dealer experiences keep ppl away
This gen TLX is a poorly packaged product compared to Integra and RDX.
Bad dealers, piano black gloss BS, bad fuel economy…it’s in a competitive segment and these obvious issues will continue to hold it back. The BMW and Mercedes dealerships are light years ahead in buying and maintenance experience.
@@atl3630not . The interior is too small not fuel economy
Holy gloss black plastic
Batman
The front Acura emblem isn't big enough
Looked at Acura MDX and Mazda CX-90, bought CX-90. Excellent vehicle.
literlly that Mazda CX-90 is hard to not choice it over the MDX due to the price.
I really appreciate the sound that has been added.
Its really good.
Well done.
We have a 2023 TYPE S since new about 26,000 miles. Absolutely no regrets. The air suspension is great, as is the Audio, seat, etc. Easy and inexpensive to maintain. Would buy another in a heartbeat.
Glad Acura had the balls to keep the V6 on all trims of the MDX while other automakers no longer use urinals. Love this channel.
Yeah a turbo four as the base motor for SUVs in this class is some pussy shit
Urinals?
Got me with that one
The gas mileage on the MDX Type S is absurd and insulting for the lack of performance compared to real luxury rivals. I owned a 2024 GLE 53 and averaged 19-22 mpg with 429 HP and 413 lb-ft of torque. I traded it in for a 2025 GLE 63s and the dealership sold the 53 Certified Pre-Owned for $79K with less than 10K miles. Superior performance, better gas mileage, and far more luxury for only a few thousand dollars more (Type S is ~$76K) while retaining the factory warranty + 12 months of unlimited miles on the Mercedes CPO program. I'm glad Acura fixed the infotainment to a degree, but the archaic digital gauge cluster and Acura claiming that Type S is a "performance luxury vehicle" is inappropriate for this price point. Acura is not offering a bargain in this segment. They aren't competing at all. It's a different class vehicle.
100%. Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes compete in the mid-sized luxury performance SUV segment. To a slightly lesser degree, so does Audi. Acura does not. The MDX is a nice vehicle and I did consider it. But I bought a loaded 2024 X5 with the B58 and have zero regrets.
I own a 2025 M4 and have driven the BMW suvs. My wife has a 2023 MDX Type S. We have had the MDX for a little over a year and just got back from a 1500 mile road trip. The air suspension in comfort mode and powertrain is highly underrated on the Type S. It's not something that appears on a spec sheet, but for a ton of reasons I wouldn't trade the MDX for an X5 or X7 of any trim. There's a smoothness to the whole thing that just doesn't happen with the BMWs. Also, we averaged 24mpg going 82mph on the trip...
@@ryanmcfarland1900 24 in the type S seems great real world economy. At that speed our regular MDX would get more like 22-23.
Here’s what you’re missing though… Acura will discount the hell out of these. I got my MDX Type S Advance for just under $67K. At that price point, it was a no brainer for me. I am OK with the 21mpg I get, though I do wish the range was better (only get around 320-330 miles per tank or so). If you want the best of the best, this isn’t it. BUT, if you want 90% of a BMW/Mercedes with a lesser drivetrain that is still more than enough for boatloads less money, then the MDX Type S could be the one for you. It was for me!
@@bradstonesifer3398 very fair comment. Did not realize they were discounting these much.
100% correct about the braking, especially in any of the Sport modes.
I just tried to “build” a 75k X5. Once I chose actual leather which the Type S has, I’m at 76k. This is BEFORE I’ve selected any options. Once I start selecting options that are already standard on the Acura, I’m above 80K easy.
Thank you for another great review. Always a pleasure
Had a 2023, loved it for the most part. Obviously one of the shortcomings was the touch pad system (crazy on a car of this caliber in 2023), and the wireless charging overheated my iPhone constantly. I wound up just plugging in the phone to charge it. Air suspension sometimes seemed to have a mind of its own, raising and lowering at stoplights. Aside from that, amazing car - very quick, quiet, smooth, and yes, one of the best sound systems in the world.
FYI, there's a mouse pointer in the top left corner from 6:15 onwards.
I'm sorry, I like my vehicles to be reliable, low maintenance, and affordable. Throw in precision engineering, great styling and durability and I choose the MDX every time. When the MDX, I thought it was a class leader, it still is!
Loved this review! Reminds me of some of the earliest years of savagegeese videos when the driving segment went a little more in detail in terms of how the car felt dynamically/ride ect
Am I still buying German cars? No, never was. 😂Another great review from Savage Geese!
100% we are “still” (actually switching) buying German- we are on our 2nd MDX a 2019 & it’s had a couple issues including a leaking radiator & forward collision camera going bad @ 75k miles to the tune of $1800, the X5 xDrive4.0 is actually cheaper, has more HP, a lot more TQ & gets much better MPG on top of it!! People reporting 23-26 mpg on avg & both our standard 2015 & 2019 MDXs only managed 20-22 tops, while the type S gets like 17!!! I’ll take more power/TQ, better handling, & nearly 10mpg better gas mileage w/ a lower price any day!!!!
I recently got 27mpg using eco pro mode on a 25 X5 M60. But Sport mode is on some other shit that Acura doesn't know anything about.
You get it 👍🏾
If you're concerned about an $1,800 repair @75K miles, you are about to have your eyes opened going German. You will spend way more than that, way before 75K miles, multiple times, on stuff that shouldn't be breaking. Regret will soon set in - trust me.
@@x06sixyou sound like some rando who either: A. Has never owned a German car and you’re just regurgitating what car reviewers tell you or B. You owned a German car in the early 2000’s or you owned a very old German car or C. You owned Audis. With the exception of VW and Audi, German cars have become increasingly reliable. BMW is probably the most reliable of the three.
@@miniaddict4534 you sound like a 5'4" keyboard warrior whose daddy left and you're still bitter over it - get a life man.
I got me a 2008 Acura MDX with only 109,000 miles yesterday for only $8850. It had just had the timing belt and waterpump replaced! I will be driving this until 2050! Buy a 2007, 2008, or a 2009 MDX. You will never regret it! Mine still looks like new. Acura rules!
My ‘24 is fantasic. I didn’t need the ‘25 to pull the trigger. Traded a ‘15 X5 for this. No regrets.
This is why a CPO mdx which is basically the same price as a cpo pilot is the best of both worlds.
I’ve owned a type s and now own an x7. The type s is an incredible vehicle. Comfortable and actually fun to drive. However, the MPG is below average. And coupled with a smaller gas tank (18.5 gallons) you are getting a paltry range of 350 miles. The X7 has better room, is more luxurious, and gets 26mpg on average. Coupled with a 22 gallon g tank the X7 has a range of 570 miles to one tank. That’s a 32% improvement in MPG and a 63% increase in range…. Plus, the push button controls on the acura are terrible. It’s a tech that nobody wants and fortunately many are going to away from. Look at the new Suburbans / tahoes and the like. The new stalk for 25 is much improved to the outgoing model.
Thank you for finally making it a touchscreen
I will never not despise hood shut lines. Why can't they just extend the hood 3 more inches to the grill edge like they do on the cheaper RDX that looks so much more elegant?!
Cheers for full physical buttons,
Jeers for making them all piano black
The MDX is what the most successful Mary Kay rep in your “suburb of a state capital”-level city drives
Love that frost pink
Thank you for the off the cuff comparisons to the BMW and Audi.
Wow. They made it look like a cross between a CRV and the previous Buick Envision. No one is else is doing that in this price range. Pretty cool.
3:10 Brilliant ! Could BMW reskin the g90 to look like the familiar e39 ?
Elegant design, for me the winner of the year or nexts in design, sure also in engine similar to all Japanese and Americans brand's, but I prefer Volvo for the resistant materials on the roof, front, back and sides. The safety of you, your family and pedestrians should be #1.
Great review, you guys should do an ineos grenadiers review 😊
Excellent, well balanced review as always!
Did you shoot the Final Thoughts segment with the MDX's backup camera?😄
The problem for MDX is fuel consumption.
And the review model is type s and that price range around X5 or GLE ball park with better luxury package and fuel consumption.
Acura still need to fix the fuel consumption.
Do many people spending $75k on a new car care about fuel consumption?
People aren't dumping 75k at one time, they lease or finance. Fuel definitely is an issue at 4-6$ a gallon for premium which turbo engines need.
@@star9732Yes, yes they do care
@@wyw201 interesting. Because an extra 40 bucks a month in gas seems trivial.
@@star9732yes, mostly because of the range between fill ups, not so much the cost. For people that have to drive alot, having to stop to fill up a lot gets annoying.
I am still confused between this (non type s) and pilot. They are same length wheelbase, almost same length but pilot is much more practical. I think Acura just tried to make it look more "sporty" by lengthening the hood and not out necessity, given engine and wheel placement doesn't move.
What’s with the mouse pointer (top left screen) during under car in the shoppe segment? Great video as always though!
will I still be able to get the oncoming MDX headlight pattern burned into my retinas?
It'd be nice if you also tested the hands-free audio quality: clarity, background noise levels, etc.
S type starts at 76k after a few options you’re close to 80k or over I’m sorry but that much I would go German IMO Acura is no longer or rather is on the lower end of “ luxury” brand
Fully loaded Type S is 75K, not 80K. That’s still A LOT cheaper and more reliable than most German options today. A loaded X5 with the fake “M”trim is $96K+ (but has a better engine of course), all other brands give you a rattly 4-cyl for more cash. This V6 MDX is a bargain even if you are leasing.
@@andrewgus8763bro the bmw X 5 is higher ranking than this ugly Acura wtf are you smoking 🥷!!! Lmao you can go to every single car review channel and they all agree the bmw X5 and that B-58 engine is the best on the market!! Please check your notes kid! Don’t ever compare this ugly and slow Acura to the ultimate driving machine 🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈
@@andrewgus8763wtf are you talking about bro this car is rated by J.D power at 80/100 and the bmw X5 is rated also 80/100 so your statement is wrong! Lmao the BMW X5 is miles ahead it has better option then that ugly slow Acura! If you go to every car review channel they all agree the bmw X5 is far superior and better quality and better performance and better buck for your money! Nice try kid go back to school and learn about cars!! Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈
@@andrewgus8763 the X5 with the b58 and well optioned is around 80k USD (M sport, driving assistance etc) . Not sure if you’re referencing a different currency?
@@andrewgus8763a loaded X5 does not start at 96k. Send me that build.
Yes, a fake M costs around $100k, but that is a different league than the Type S.
Thanks for making this video
Man, this car's combination of refinement and noise isolation almost makes me forget about my constant feeling of impending doom.
8:34 "Acura" itely?
A big advantage is something they didn't change. The V6. I hope acura hears the complaints from Lexus buys and don't get rid of the V6 in the next gen. I think they should offer a 4 turbo but also offer a v6 for those who want it.
I dread the " So how much is this going to cost" moment & every time my brain says "How Much??" 😬
Buying any of these new seems crazy, CPO is really the way on any luxury brand. Cost is pretty much the same as a CPO pilot.
Agreed. Just got a CPO '24 Type S with low miles for the price of a top trim Pilot
As a former Acura salesman I can confirm, Acura is very boring 😂. Even there more “exciting” cars are still quite meh 🫤
@@WaveManMike Amen!
Would love to see your review on the ZDX.
I must be 1 of a handful of people that prefer the 1 to 1 touch interface of the old infotainment. And its weird to see Mark welcome the touchscreen considering he's a button guy.
That interface wasn't a buttons though 🤷♂️
I'll join that handful of people. I think it's pretty good, actually. I'm 39 and came from other brands with pretty good touch screens, and including a 11g civic as well that has the touch screen. I like the 1:1 touch interface in the RDX i own better. I dunno why. It's simple, easy, and frankly you're not interacting with it most of the time anyway even if it was a buggaboo.
I think based on price alone the MDX type s has its hands full competing with the q7. The line up really good in that regard. X5 or x7 are better for more money though. I just don't know if someone does legit cross shopping and drives a GV80 or Q7 prestige, and chooses the type s MDX.
X5 with M sport suspension has a very firm uncomfortable ride quality. Drove the X5 coil over suspension (base X5) and its way to bouncy over road imperfections for a luxury vehicle. I'm hoping MDX type S does a better job with ride quality.
My sister has a 2017 MDX, fully loaded. She loves it but when I had a loaner Q7 for my A4 she was very smitten. She noted three things, better ride quality, quieter on the highway and much btter interior materials than hers. Now hers is older yes but she has looked at the 2023 model and wasnt impressed over the Q7.
Q7 is on a whole different level from a dynamics standpoint.
Looks super grainy at 13:47 and 14:38, just so you know
If you lean on the lane keep assist feature you need to cut your driver's license into tiny tiny tiny pieces and buy a bike.
Looks great. Had a 2005 mdx but German rivals wayyyy better.
6:16 mouse cursor top left corner
I wish Honda would make air ride an option on the regular MDX. Or make another hybrid to make fuel economy better like they had before and give that air ride. My biggest issue with MDX is fuel economy.
If these vehicles were made in RHD, I think they'd be pretty popular here in Jamaica
I want to be able to understand the audio portion better, where would be a good place to start? I want to recognize a good audio system.
A good system is whatever you think sounds good. The best sounding car audio I’ve heard is the iX
@@KhanJoltrane wow, how insightful. 🙃
SG have a video explaining their testing
@@ARentz07 unless you’re buying the car for someone else, I don’t think there’s a point in recognizing a “good” system
For me, there’s two things I do which is look for a flat frequency response. I do this with a hertz sweep and seeing if the volume stays the same. Then I also listen to a live recording and see how close to the live performance it sounds like.
@@KhanJoltrane Yeah i have been around crappy speakers all my life so its interesting to learn about what makes a good audio system "good" because I feel that most can tell the difference between high end vs low end.
Would you suggest buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee L ? Yes or no? Simple. Thx!
love acuras best cars that mdx is a real suv look good and reliabel
Totally agree, ride is better than BMW X5. Yes, BMW trans is better, but overall ride is better.
have they improved the ventilated seats?!
Its maybe 2% better
Will there be a follow up to the long-term series for the Pilot?
I’d be curious how this also stacks up to the CX-70/90 as well as the Germans. Caddy’s XT-6 probably needs ~50 hp to get into the conversation.
Mazda kills this for the price
@Que67kdro90 I had a CX-90 as a rental, and it was the most mixed-bag experience I've had in a while. Nice interior space. Great engine. Horrible rough tranmission and stiff ride. Not a great option from where I am sitting.
@@ARentz07 The mazda is made in japan this is made in ohio. Mazda offers a rwd based i-6 and a plug in hybrid. Mdx stuck in 2004 with technology
@@v12kingV10 I keep saying that the CX-90 as a package is hard to not choose the phenomial SUV.
@ agreed!!!!
I don't get the hard on for these 30+ speaker audio systems? Must be a processing nightmare! Would be interested how it compares to a decent aftermarket system though. The midrange dip prob helps to keep vocals from sounding like they are in your face.
Yep. I had to turn some of the midrange frequencies down a bit because of that on our 2023 Type S using a 12 band eq.
All the speakers, if well tuned like the Type S, does give good imaging in both the front and middle row which doesn't happen in smaller systems.
I wonder if it has to do with all the fake engine noise?
They should have give custumers more air vents in the second and third row even the CX-90 has third row vents even though they are at kneel level but a vent is a vent😃. The CX-90 just need a liitle more insolation materials, fix the transmission, add door sensors on the rear doors, off a bench seat because not everyone love captian chairs, more interior space, and lastly please make better infotanment system that has full touch capabilites.
Mark, can you review the 2025 TLX A-Spec? This is the trim most will buy.
I would probably get a CPO Cayenne. Don’t want a third row at all.
I don’t like how the dash screen turns blurry after you reach the speed limit it…😊
Curious how the type S is. I was given a MDX as a loaner for a week. Was bored with it after a day. Comfortable and nice tech though.
i LOVE my 2022 MDX, and yes.. i dont mind the track pad. What a fun SUV to drive.
Is there still no hybrid option for the MDX? I currently own one, and it’s a real gas guzzler. With the Lexus RX now offering 35 mpg, it feels like the MDX has fallen behind (I drive a lot). I also preferred the previous generation's double-line tail lamps-the classic Acura MDX look, almost as iconic as the Porsche’s signature rear lights. It’s disappointing that they changed such a beautiful detail to something that, frankly, looks a bit off and whatever.
If I’m buying BRAND NEW and planning to change just right before 4 years (warranty expires), I’ll buy German, because Germans are better in performance, handling, tech and luxury. But if I’m going to keep my car over 6-10 years, I’ll go Japanese (Especially Lexus or Acura) because the Japanese has higher reliability, cheaper to maintain/service and higher resale value.
MDX more comparable to X7 in terms of size. I had a 2022 MDX type S and found the 350hp week and the 21mpg lower than it should be. Handling and stereo were great and who knew I 'needed' a seat massager!
Don't think I'd like the touchy brakes especially around the city in stop and go traffic. I'm assuming this only applies to the Type-s with the Brembo brakes?
With a $25-30k budget (used vehicles fine), what would you guys pick for a mid sized sedan or small SUV? Want something fun but reliable and not horrible gas mileage. Virginia taxes the hell out of vehicles beyond $20k so don't want to go too high. Also don't want to go older than 2017 or so.
No longer lock the 1st gear at corner ?
Has Acura considered an RDX type s?
The rest of the world can't even get the Pilot. You guys should be grateful. The closest one we can get is the Civic Type R, which already gone from the sales 😢
The only thing you needed to say was that it has a touchscreen. I almost put my fist through the screen and I literally traded it in on a GV70 the same day.
We love our 22 A-Spec and with the NA V6, we know it will run long past the warranty. The right amount of tech and buttons. I like the fact that there are no finger prints on the screen due to the touch pad. Yes, it takes some getting used to, but worth it. The AWD system is awesome. In the snow, you can certainly get some great rotation out of it. It never feels FWD like our Atlas did. Certainly a keeper!
Did they fix the transmission issue after a turn that you mentioned in your original review?
I could not re create it this time. I was told there were calibrations changed and it felt like it. However was changed is internal honda knowledge only. It felt much better in this Type S compared to before.
@@savagegeese thanks for the info. MDX looks like a solid buy for near luxury suv
The infotainment only connects with Android phones??
The difficult thing for me is the mpg. I would rather get a hybrid TX with much better fuel economy. Otherwise, I would love a nice Acura 3 row MDX.
have you seen how ugly the TX is? If you'd settle for that just for the fuel economy, might as well wait for the grand highlander to be fixed and go full economy.
@@PWCDN once you own a hybrid, it's very hard to go back. the grand highlander and tx are the same vehicle and have the same 'fixed schedule'
@@jorgeguzman8083 hence why I say go for the Grand Highlander. Nothing about the TX is worth the premium price. Lexus is just robbing people these days.
How does this compare to the Genesis GV80?