Velvet Revolver How The Band Fell To Pieces & Fired Scott Weiland - Slash, Duff, Matt Sorum

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • Velvet Revolver Was One of the Most Hyped Supergroup's of the 2000's and they quickly crashed and burned after only half a decade and two albums including 2004's Contraband and 2007's Libertad.
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:32 - Formation of Velvet Revolver
    2:26 - Hiring Scott Weiland
    2:59 - Recording of Contraband/Tour
    5:59 - Recording of Libertad
    9:33 - Scott Weiland's Final Gigs
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    The origins of the supergroup velvet revolver began with drummer Randy Castillo who played with Ozzy Osbourne, Lita Ford and Motley Crue among many others. It would be his passing in the early 2000’s that brought one half of Guns N’ Roses and one part of Stone Temple Pilots together with mixed results. Velvet Revolver went from being one of the most highly anticipated bands of the 2000’s to imploding on stage half a decade after their formation. This is the story of Velvet Revolver.
    Former Guns N’ Roses and the Cult drummer Matt Sorum was close friends with drummer Randy Castillo. Sorum would reveal in his autobiography that he was initially offered the job to fill in for Tommy lee following his departure from motley Crue in the late 90’s. It was around this time that Sorum’s old band the cult reunited. Sorum would turn down the offer instead suggesting Castillo for the job. Castillo would play with Motley Crue on one record, but struggled with health issues dealing with cancer until his death in 2002.
    Sorum would organize a benefit show with his former Guns N’ Roses bandmates Slash and Duff McKaganin in addition to Stevne Tyler, and Buck Cherry members Josh Todd and Keith Nelson
    Sorum would recall how electric the gig was and how the next morning he got calls from Slash and Duf saying they should form a band with the guys from Buck Cherry. Within a few weeks Slash walked away from the band saying he was out. He would tell Sorum he couldn’t work with Josh Todd, but Slash according to Sorum wasn’t the type of guy who could fire people so the drummer fired the singer and the group became a quartet.Soon afterwards Slash couldn’t work with Keith Nelson claiming the guitarist just doubled whatever he was playing so Sorum fired him too. . Accoding to Slash’s 2007 book he would reveal the reason he couldn’t work with Josh Todd revealing “Josh’s voice was just too linear and grating, it was a distraction from the music, not to mention just a tad off-key.”
    Soon enough former Guns N’ Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin joined his old bandmates to write some songs. Aaccording to Slash’s book, izzy suggested the band be a quartet with him and Duff handling vocal duties and playing just some clubs in a van tour. The band didn’t entertain the idea and soon enough Izzy split. Duff would suggest a friend of his and high school mate of Slash Dave Kushner to be band’s rhythm guitarist. All they needed now was a singer.
    The band would put out ads in music magazines and on radio holding open auditions for a singers for their unnamed project. It would take the band almost a year before they settled on a singer. Some high profile names were thrown around to join the band including Sebastian Bach, Ian Asbtury and Steve Jones. It would turn that Stone Temple Pilots broke up in 2003 and frontman Scott Weiland was suddenly free. Duff McKagan who knew scott suggested the singer and had him come audition for the band. The band would record their first song with Weiland called Set Me Free. The band’s manager got them a licensing deal with the Hulk movie in 2003 for a whopping $1.6 million. While the band was off to a good start they still didn’t have a name. They would throw around a couple ideas including Revolver, Dead Velvet Revolver before settling on Velvet Revolver. The band would be the subject of a bidding war between labels before signing with Clive Davis’ RCA Records for a whopping 8.5 million dollars for 3 albums.
    In what should have been foreshadowing of what was to come Scott Weiland seemed like a problem from the beginning. Not helping things were the egos, bad management and lack of communication between the band members. At the band’s showcase for the movie producers of the Hulk, Weiland showed up over an hour late under the influence, but still performed well enough to get a movie deal. When the band sat down to review their 8.5 million dollar contract offer Scott showed up last at the band’s rehearsal studio wearing a pin stripe suit with no shoes and a giant gash on his forehead according to Sorum’s book. Weiland would tell his bandmates that he got the gash on his head fro
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  • @rnrtruestories
    @rnrtruestories  3 года назад +132

    Here’s a story on the time Axl nearly beat up slash on stage ruclips.net/video/Hb98ZpYRzOk/видео.htmlsi=gxbUQXkJ9brn4y1n

    • @moreblack
      @moreblack 3 года назад +2

      Looking forward to those, have you done, or do you have any plans to do one on Slash going solo and getting together with Myles and the Conspirators?

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 года назад +3

      @@moreblack I did talk about slashs first solo album a few weeks ago but I’m sure I’ll cover slash and the conspirators at some pointn

    • @moreblack
      @moreblack 3 года назад +2

      @@rnrtruestories Thanks for the heads up, I'll look for that one.

    • @duanesorgel7369
      @duanesorgel7369 3 года назад +1

      I would love it if you did an in depth story on the reason why Richie Sambora left Bon Jovi. I’m a massive Richie fan and I feel we don’t have the true reason why he left. Cheers.

    • @musicalmusic3353
      @musicalmusic3353 3 года назад +3

      I’m really looking forward to it!!!! I love your videos!!!! Happy holidays!!!!

  • @christyler6920
    @christyler6920 3 года назад +1027

    Seems like a small oversight not to have mentioned that Scott Weiland is in fact dead and that might be a major factor in them not being able to reunite.

    • @milesgentry850
      @milesgentry850 3 года назад +31

      SAD TOO..GENIUS HE WAS HEROIN WAS HIS BANE!😪

    • @twointhepinkoneinthestink
      @twointhepinkoneinthestink 3 года назад +3

      10/10

    • @valeriequiett
      @valeriequiett 3 года назад +7

      An again Scott fell under sadly

    • @gypsydonovan
      @gypsydonovan 3 года назад +20

      @Johnny Dong proof of what? That he died? Wth are you talking about?

    • @stormedcapone
      @stormedcapone 3 года назад +7

      I doubt they would've reunited long term. Slash made it pretty clear he didn't want to work with weiland pretty clear. They mightve done one offs

  • @zmbdog
    @zmbdog 3 года назад +431

    So they hired a singer known for frequent drug relapses and he went on to relapse frequently? Wow, of all the possible outcomes.

    • @ryankibler7973
      @ryankibler7973 3 года назад +16

      One that is half the size he was in the 90s. Just looking at him you knew what was up! I saw them live though and my God, high frontmen are the best frontmen

    • @MisterBacca
      @MisterBacca 3 года назад +5

      Hahahahahahaha well said.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk 3 года назад +3

      Shocked Pikachu.jpg

    • @susilabello5371
      @susilabello5371 3 года назад +10

      Well, that's Rock n Roll ... but they couldn't have gotten a better lead singer ... Scott

    • @susilabello5371
      @susilabello5371 3 года назад +3

      @Sand Hanitizer yeah, I agree. The Stones were their absolute Best while Keith was using dope -> sticky fingers & exile on mainstreet .... absolutely fabulous! I know, sorry - different band.

  • @russellshaffer6050
    @russellshaffer6050 3 года назад +259

    A little awkward when you say that the band is dead without acknowledging the fact that Weiland himself is, well, dead

    • @C0LDM1LK
      @C0LDM1LK 3 года назад +3

      I know right!

    • @hugolafhugolaf
      @hugolafhugolaf 3 года назад

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    • @him050
      @him050 3 года назад +1

      Well in fairness he was fired from the band

    • @maverickdsouza4008
      @maverickdsouza4008 3 года назад +1

      Yeah Weiland fell to pieces :(

    • @russellhobbs7245
      @russellhobbs7245 3 года назад

      @Your Neighbor That's your opinion. Plenty of people would disagree. Was the opening band the band that was full of chicks? If so I have to say they were pretty kick ass from what I remember

  • @ThatOtherRaccoon
    @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 года назад +155

    I see what you did there. The band "Fell To Pieces".

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 года назад

      @Christopher Bingham so it takes one to point it out then?

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 года назад

      @Christopher Bingham but what about pointing out that it didn't need to be pointed out then? What level of genius does that take?

    • @OH_MY_DOGGG
      @OH_MY_DOGGG 3 года назад +1

      I see, as well.

    • @tieukhavu8832
      @tieukhavu8832 3 года назад

      Pun intended

    • @supersierra70
      @supersierra70 3 года назад +2

      Captain obvious just called... lol

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 11 месяцев назад +25

    Velvet Revolver's first album Contraband was a damn fine effort that holds up well today, but I knew from the beginning that there was no way the supergroup would last.

  • @brianphillips9152
    @brianphillips9152 8 месяцев назад +34

    When you hear the back story on these bands it is a miracle that they can record a cohesive album and complete a tour.

    • @tattooninja
      @tattooninja 8 месяцев назад

      Bunch of nasty old junkies

    • @joshhernandez6974
      @joshhernandez6974 Месяц назад

      The worst thing that can happen to a drug addict is fame and money 🤷

  • @stephenworldwide
    @stephenworldwide 3 года назад +155

    It's too bad about Weiland. He was such a good singer.

    • @kimmcintosh3449
      @kimmcintosh3449 3 года назад +8

      Unfortunately he had LSD lead singers disease heroin and rock and roll don't go together

    • @analystzorncasteel3047
      @analystzorncasteel3047 3 года назад +10

      Umm he was moderately ok. Had a vocal range of about a 1/2 an octave, and didn't really have more than one tone, he sang in. .. Slash picked him to assure he (Slash) would be the star of the band.

    • @jahread3322
      @jahread3322 3 года назад +5

      he was the beginning of all those singers that copped layne staley and jerry cantrells vocals...weiland at least didnt suck and stp sound can stand on its own but goddamn if weiland didn’t open the door for so many shitty fucking bands with cheezier and cheezier aic rip-off vocals...creed anyone

    • @analystzorncasteel3047
      @analystzorncasteel3047 3 года назад +3

      @@jahread3322 I still like the first STP cd ... 👍

    • @drumgk
      @drumgk 3 года назад +13

      He was a great vocalist and songwriter. He wrote and co-wrote some of rocks greatest songs ever. Too bad the drugs and alcohol took him away.

  • @gayjustinbieber6225
    @gayjustinbieber6225 3 года назад +166

    Fall to Pieces is a bloody masterpiece

    • @sean8470
      @sean8470 Год назад +6

      that solo i believe is slash's finest

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 11 месяцев назад +10

      Great song, with a great video and a powerful message!. VR was truly a great band and Scott a tremendous talent that sadly could never get a handle on his demons!..

    • @HavendaleBlvd80
      @HavendaleBlvd80 7 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely.

    • @toddlavigne6441
      @toddlavigne6441 7 месяцев назад

      good solid song...masterpiece ? that's a matter of opinion.

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 3 месяца назад

      HiCheck out the late night TV appearance of that song.
      I think it was Leno..EPIC

  • @Guitar387
    @Guitar387 3 года назад +116

    I saw them live a few shows before they split up in England in Brighton. I remember Duff looking miserable on stage and Scott didn’t interact or even look at the other band members once. He also didn’t interact with the crowed , he basically sung songs one after another and left the stage. I remember duff looked like he didn’t want to be there.

    • @russellhobbs7245
      @russellhobbs7245 3 года назад +9

      Probably because when they went to Birmingham Scott stood with one foot on the stage and the other on the barrier leant over the crowd and someone yanked his chain round his neck. I don't think they got it but it shook him. Slash had a good old chuckle to himself while watching it unfold much to my amusement as most of the crowd had heard what happened around 3/4 nights earlier in Glasgow and gave a huge cheer as he struggled to keep his balance. I think after that he knew pretty much all their audience were against him which was a shame for the fans after that because that may have been the last performance he did actually put some energy into

    • @t800rja4
      @t800rja4 2 года назад +10

      I was at the Glasgow gig. I remember they were playing then Scott just announced "this is the last time you will ever see Velvet Revolver". I just stood there thinking did I just hear that? Duff clearly thought the same as he just started looking at Slash and Dave like wtf!

    • @Nirvana388
      @Nirvana388 2 года назад +8

      The one time I saw STP shortly after this Scott behaved exactly the same was definitely there for the money and not the music or fans it was sadly obvious.

    • @davidmaida6453
      @davidmaida6453 2 года назад +8

      The one and only time I got to see STP live was at Kattfest 08. Crowd went apeshit when they got on stage, Weiland was feeding off the crowd and gave an incredible performance. A fan also rushed the stage and Scott told them to let him go, the guy got down on his knees and was crying about how big a fan he was, they then stood him up, the band gathered around him and told the audience this is what it's all about.

    • @musicfinder3178
      @musicfinder3178 2 года назад +8

      That’s interesting, I’d like to mention that I saw them perform once in New York during their Contraband tour. It was a great show, Weiland had his megaphone and actually walked up and down the bleachers including up to the 300s section as he was singing a song. I don’t even recall there being security and it just seemed like a spur of the moment type of thing. So I’d just like to add that if he stopped putting on great shows, he wasn’t ALWAYS like that.

  • @stevewest5397
    @stevewest5397 3 года назад +101

    Considering the problems they all had, this ending was pretty much inevitable.

    • @seizethedayandlive
      @seizethedayandlive 2 года назад +3

      Absolutely! I'd be surprised if they didn't break up!

  • @tomdeters735
    @tomdeters735 3 года назад +106

    It would've been neat if Izzys idea of a quartet came to fruition

  • @lloydonlead
    @lloydonlead 3 года назад +27

    It's amazing to me that any band can stay together. Especially with the egos and the drugs.

  • @missmarina_xo
    @missmarina_xo 3 года назад +67

    It’s very sad how much Scott’s addiction took him over. He’ll always be one of my favorites though 💕

    • @perfect_sunrise9046
      @perfect_sunrise9046 Год назад

      All your idols are degenerates

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 11 месяцев назад +4

      That's addiction and it knows no bounds and can (and does) affect those from Every walk of life!.. It's sad Scott was never able to sober up or really get much clean time and even when he claimed to be clean, he really only meant he was clean from "heroin" and in fact did break his addiction to dope, but replaced it with the other substances that ultimately killed him and this is more common than most realize.. Many addicts jump from one substance to another and often justify this behavior!. Sadly, no amount of help can help someone that doesn't want to be helped and unfortunately (statistically) most addicts Never achieve long-term sobriety and or end up dying (in some manner) due to their addiction!.

  • @LaGrungeMusic
    @LaGrungeMusic 3 года назад +71

    I love your respect for Rock Journalism providing alternate perspectives in the same story thank you

  • @KingDaveth
    @KingDaveth 3 года назад +44

    Lmao!
    "I hated Axl because he was controlling and his ego got in the way...I don't like this singer...Matt fire him..."

  • @lhart99
    @lhart99 3 года назад +81

    They were a great fucking band, and one of my favorites. Too bad they didn't last long, but at least they leave behind some great music.

  • @LuisGarcia-cb7ez
    @LuisGarcia-cb7ez 3 года назад +113

    Matt:cocaine
    Duff: xanax and wine
    Slash:ego and his defibrillator
    Scott: professional squash player on heroin lol

    • @ucfkid67
      @ucfkid67 3 года назад +5

      And I guess kushner gets high on warm Pepsi?? Lol

    • @Underland76
      @Underland76 3 года назад +7

      @@ucfkid67 warm Pepsi isn't that bad

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser 3 года назад +3

      @@Underland76 yep, I like it.

  • @grumpyoldgirl8582
    @grumpyoldgirl8582 2 года назад +8

    I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott decided, unbeknownst to his band mates, that this was going to be their last gig. They all looked on in amazement. They went off stage for about 20 minutes, then came back on to finish the gig. It was an interesting night.

  • @seetherbridge3
    @seetherbridge3 3 года назад +14

    I love how you totally skipped the fact that Wieland died whilst on tour with his band not long after.. that is probably the biggest reason for VR not getting back together...

  • @rowstone3019
    @rowstone3019 2 года назад +19

    Great video. I was 18 in 1988. I started with Guns and Roses. Guns was incredible. When Stone Temple came out, I loved them. I liked Grunge. I didn't see STP as full grunge like Nirvana. Anyway, these are the guys I listened too thru out my life. There are like my extended family.

    • @llanoanimals
      @llanoanimals 3 месяца назад

      I too was 18 in 1988 and GNR will always be my favorite band. Loved Velvet Revolver as well.

  • @JasonSum1979
    @JasonSum1979 3 года назад +73

    it’s incredible we even got two Albums from this “Super Group” I totally forgot they put out a second album (that debut is so good for what it is) But, at the same time you can just tell this band wasn’t going to last very long!

    • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
      @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 2 года назад +4

      Libertad is great

    • @JasonSum1979
      @JasonSum1979 2 года назад

      @@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Thx I'll have to get my hands on it (either i forgot there was a follow up Velvet Revolver album or something don't remember much hype behind the second album......

    • @ict113090
      @ict113090 2 года назад +5

      Their second album was actually very good. I just think by 2007 (year of its release) the industry wasn't interested in them and it got little to no promoting. The industry by that time was only interested in either emo bands, Coldplay or anyone trying to be like Coldplay.

    • @drivingwheel9101
      @drivingwheel9101 Год назад

      @@ict113090 Libertad >Contraband

  • @pricey6177
    @pricey6177 3 года назад +10

    VR was one of the best gigs I’ve been too, was absolutely electric. Scott was so good on stage.

  • @Clay_Scar
    @Clay_Scar 3 года назад +16

    Still enjoy their music regularly. Cool time for rock n roll and their interpretation had great energy

  • @asinthedaysofnoahandlot4632
    @asinthedaysofnoahandlot4632 3 года назад +13

    Glad I saw them live in 2005. What a show with atmosphere and so many encores. The energy of the entire band was mind blowing

  • @ShoOKitssho_time
    @ShoOKitssho_time 3 года назад +32

    You know, while all of them are still alive, I hope Matt Sorum calls Axl, Slash, and Duff (in that order) and make a peace. Sammy Hagar called Eddie before this year happened. They even had a kitchen sink tour sorted. I don't think Sammy would have felt good about himself if he didn't contact Eddie. A grudge is the last thing you wanna take to the grave.

  • @Megadeth6633
    @Megadeth6633 2 года назад +17

    This band was amazing at the time, it was probably the most exciting thing in rock n roll when they came out with that headbanging sound. Good times

    • @archangel5627
      @archangel5627 2 года назад +4

      I completely agree with you. Before the first Velvet Revolver album came out, I remember reading about how Slash, Duff, and Matt Sorum were getting together to create a new band with the Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots. I was so excited because at the time, this was basically a modern take on Guns N Roses. Needless to say I was a huge GNR fan and like so many other people, I had grown tired of Axel Roses antics and tired of waiting for his version of a new Guns N Roses album to come out. Personally, I think Velvet Revolver’s first album is more GNR than anything Axel has done since Guns broke up back in the early 90s. It’s a shame they only made two albums while Scott Weiland was still alive. I would’ve loved to hear some new music by Velvet Revolver but it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we have two records along with some great live performances. I still listen to Velvet on a semi regular basis and I’ll always remember how cool they were.

  • @GaryPhelpsII
    @GaryPhelpsII 2 года назад +14

    God, those were two great albums; I really miss Weiland.

  • @johnnybrace
    @johnnybrace 6 месяцев назад +4

    no matter what happened, Scott Weiland will always be one of my favorite frontmen

  • @42-Donuts
    @42-Donuts 3 года назад +63

    I like both Contraband and Libertad.. Great rocknroll... RIP Scott. Now if only GnR would make some new music... wtf!

    • @techdeathhippie6319
      @techdeathhippie6319 3 года назад +3

      1991 was last time we got a song written by axl and slash together . Fuck 1991

    • @Satr1ani
      @Satr1ani 3 года назад

      Would be nice to see what they could conjure up. Though for the gnr sound and feel i think you do need at least Izzy also. Preferrably Steven as well. That not gonna happen

    • @bugsymalone5744
      @bugsymalone5744 3 года назад

      As long as it's not the bombastic shit that's on Chinese Democracy

    • @dereklong3977
      @dereklong3977 3 года назад +2

      According to interviews with Slash from the beginning of the year they are writing new music with Axl & Duff. It’s gonna come, be patient.

    • @42-Donuts
      @42-Donuts 3 года назад

      @@dereklong3977 i'm sure they are writing music all the time, thats what they do... the big issue seems to actually release it..

  • @nidgeontour257
    @nidgeontour257 3 года назад +9

    The last gig VR did in London was at Brixton academy where I worked. I walked Scott and Slash to their cars. They were both very nice to me and Scott laughed at a joke I made when we were walking together. RIP Scott. Long live Slash!

    • @ixa-3140
      @ixa-3140 3 года назад +2

      If you really made him laugh thank you, he went through hell. Never met him but I got love for the man. Hope his family is well.

    • @nidgeontour257
      @nidgeontour257 3 года назад +1

      @@ixa-3140 A tortured soul but very talented! x

  • @sonicheadfuck
    @sonicheadfuck 3 года назад +10

    I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott announced he was done. Shocking stuff, but WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT! He was on fire. I felt a bit sad for Matt at the end of the video. He's such a good drummer and I want to hear him do more.

  • @MynameisMikeee
    @MynameisMikeee 3 года назад +45

    I remember there being a bunch of rumors that Corey Taylor was going to join the band after Scott left... Not a clue if any of it was true but it would have been awesome.

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 года назад +23

      Yup they even recorded material but slash said it was too heavy

    • @caseywilson7768
      @caseywilson7768 3 года назад +10

      Taylor is the most overrated front man in the history of rock and that is quite an acomplishment

    • @MynameisMikeee
      @MynameisMikeee 3 года назад +1

      @@rnrtruestories ah okay. Never knew why it didn’t work out. Thanks bud.

    • @arcticmonkey3
      @arcticmonkey3 3 года назад

      @Benjamin S that’s cool man but you’re right, not a lot of people are gonna side with your view

    • @cosmicbro1973
      @cosmicbro1973 3 года назад +1

      Rock N' Roll True Stories DAMN IT SLASH that would have been amazing

  • @ozzyozcorn
    @ozzyozcorn 3 года назад +8

    I love scott and velvet revolver so much.... Scott's son sounds so much like him it would be awesome to see him see a few of Scott's songs

  • @DrScott666
    @DrScott666 8 месяцев назад +4

    I saw Velvet Revolver at a secret night club just before their first record came out... EASILY ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS IVE EVER BEEN TOO!

  • @tijuanaiguana190
    @tijuanaiguana190 3 года назад +15

    Lmao at the rhyming at 5:55 "he was off the wagan, in addition to duff mccagan"

  • @JaQuicker
    @JaQuicker 3 года назад +24

    Really wish Izzy would get back in the mix

  • @mikebaldwin2549
    @mikebaldwin2549 3 года назад +13

    One of the most talented bands a true supergroup of egos and drug addiction

  • @baxatakbaxatak2014
    @baxatakbaxatak2014 7 месяцев назад +3

    One of the greatest names for a band ever. And one of the greatest debut albums.

  • @surfsup5757
    @surfsup5757 2 года назад +4

    I saw Velvet Revolver at House Of Blues in Myrtle Beach and they slayed the place. Best show I've seen there along with STP. Weiland knew how to work a crowd into a frenzy. And with Slash and Duff beside him, for a brief time, they were one of the greats.

  • @caledunsmore
    @caledunsmore 9 месяцев назад +3

    Saw Velvet Revolver live in Sydney. I was so stoked as a Guns N Roses and Stone Temple Pilots fan. It was a great gig. They even did 2 Guns covers
    Mr Brownstone and It's So Easy. It was a perfect blend of the 2 bands. I was in College and it was one of my first big Concert and absolutely loved it. Slash even did a solo piece and I was like 5 metres away.
    Contraband is a damn good album

  • @zer0deaths862
    @zer0deaths862 2 года назад +8

    I saw Velvet Revolver live in Washington in early September of 2007 with Alice in Chains opening up for them, that was a fantastic show, Alice in Chains was great and Scott was well on point and was singing perfectly. I knew he had to have been on drugs at that very moment. It was an odd feeling enjoying the music after that, bittersweet.

  • @georgearagon2546
    @georgearagon2546 5 месяцев назад +2

    As much of a powerhouse as this group was. It wasn't much without Weiland. This band was the definition of "chemistry."

  • @GarrettLoganGriffin
    @GarrettLoganGriffin 4 месяца назад +2

    I had the pleasure of seeing VR in Dallas on the Libertad tour in ‘07 or ‘08. No opener. The guys just came out and crushed for 2 and a half hours. They played almost every song from Contraband and Libertad, 6-7 Guns ‘N Roses songs, 6-7 STP songs, and a couple Pink Floyd covers. One of the best concert experiences I ever had. I’m grateful to have been there for that. I’ll remember it forever.

  • @vlcthefish
    @vlcthefish 3 года назад +42

    Mike Patton was asked to try out and he was like "fuck that"

    • @catjudo1
      @catjudo1 3 года назад +24

      No Faith in the band, I guess...

    • @Croot_Music
      @Croot_Music 3 года назад +15

      If you’ve listened to anything Mike Patton has done outside of faith no more this shouldn’t surprise anyone

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 3 года назад +5

      @@Croot_Music Pretty much and especially if you consider the timing that would have been asking Mike in 2002 when he was at the height of his post FNM experimental phase. I just remember at the time Mike wouldn't even entertain doing a FNM reunion back then like it was beneath him let alone getting together with exGNR members. Mike has mellowed out a lot later on but I would have loved to hear Mike's laughter when hearing that offer in '02

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 3 года назад +7

      Actually just found an interview with Mike talking about it back in 2003. Yep it's exactly how i would picture Mike thinking about it. Everything from laughing at the idea of the Velvet Revolver to joking about Weiland oding from cocaine
      Tell me about being approached by ‘The Project’?
      Mike Patton: “Sorry?
      The new band Slash and the other ex-Guns’N’Roses guys are putting together.
      Mike Patton: “Did you just call it ‘The Project’?
      That’s what they are calling it.
      Mike Patton: “HAHAHAHA. That’s hilarious. It sounds much better than I’m sure it is. Er, well, I wasn’t really approached. I just got a phonecall from an ex-manager asking if I would be interested. Well, I wasn’t and that was about it. Not very exciting.
      Why weren’t you interested?
      Mike Patton: “Why do you think? You know. I think everyone else knows too, except them. Which is the funny part.
      I hear they are now doing stuff with Scott Weiland.
      Mike Patton: “I thought he was dead.
      No, he’s alive. He’s just been arrested for cocaine possession again.
      Mike Patton: “OK. Well this band will kill him off and do the world a favour.
      bbs.bunglefever.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=49178

    • @ripdimebag666cfh
      @ripdimebag666cfh 3 года назад +6

      That’s because he’s too good to be in Velvet Revolver.

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 3 года назад +7

    It's cool to hear Axl singing VR tunes with GnR

  • @gagewendland4315
    @gagewendland4315 3 года назад

    Your videos have gotten so good.

  • @perebernardo3829
    @perebernardo3829 3 года назад +15

    That dangerous element was THE key element in every great rock n roll band...
    The beauty of the tragedy. The conflict. Fallen heroes.
    Rise and fall of the demigods and their final rise to eternity as legends.
    That's what we love and that's what we condemn.

    • @michaelsands442
      @michaelsands442 Год назад

      Well said. Very well said

    • @justinsixx90
      @justinsixx90 8 месяцев назад

      Woah that was deep, but accurate and great dude!

    • @johnconnor4136
      @johnconnor4136 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hell yeah!! I'm stealing this for poetry class.

    • @tattooninja
      @tattooninja 8 месяцев назад

      Durrrrr

  • @peterlightning9235
    @peterlightning9235 3 года назад +13

    I was really excited about Velvet Revolver when they formed. I knew they were likely fucked if they were going to rely on Scott Weiland. But, people change as they grow older, so I was hoping it was going to work out. No, it did not.

  • @vlcthefish
    @vlcthefish 3 года назад +34

    God the politics and fighting that goes on in bands is sad.

    • @TheRumbles13
      @TheRumbles13 3 года назад +6

      Its people man, people in general. Look at 2020. Lol

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 года назад +9

      @@TheRumbles13 yeah they are living the dream and can't get along

    • @sunshinesweetlove..8066
      @sunshinesweetlove..8066 3 года назад +2

      They fight over money 💰

    • @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245
      @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 3 года назад +1

      That's exactly why I don't write music anymore. I honestly don't think anyone deserves to listen to what I can come up with because money and politics would ruin it anyways. It's not worth it in my eyes to put effort into art that will end up in that terrible system. Besides, I don't think anyone wants to listen to lyrics that don't have anything to do with making money, talking about the opposite sex or other selfish/toxic behaviors

    • @schigeraXD
      @schigeraXD 2 года назад

      @@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 damn that sucks to hear. I'd love to listen to some tunes you've made but, I don't blame you for not wanting to continue. Being a musician is probably my biggest dream but I worry of the same things you mentioned.

  • @Csnich96
    @Csnich96 3 года назад +1

    Underrated channel. Deserves more subs

  • @125935
    @125935 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome piece - thank you for taking the time to put it out.
    I absolutely loved Weiland and it was sad to see his demise to heroin. Every band he was in was plagued with the addiction.
    😢

    • @celestenelson6375
      @celestenelson6375 3 месяца назад

      I Loved Scott as well. He was such an amazing, transformational artist. So sad. 😢

  • @TheChristafershawn
    @TheChristafershawn 3 года назад +13

    And then there was the little incident of overdose and death.

  • @Koldfusion234
    @Koldfusion234 3 года назад +55

    The VR era was honestly the last time Weiland was any good, and even then, his time in VR was not nearly as good as the work he did with STP in the 90s, even though Contraband was indeed a solid album. By the time Libertad came out, Weiland’s on-stage persona had become weird and honestly a little creepy. And he didn’t sound nearly as good live as he did in studio. His drug use really turned him into a shell of his former self.

    • @WhyTheHorseface
      @WhyTheHorseface 3 года назад +10

      The 2010 STP record was great. That reunion started strong.

    • @kimbaldo3292
      @kimbaldo3292 3 года назад +17

      As an ex heroin addict I know first hand how much that drug kills your creativity and ambition, I'm a musician as well and I didn't give two fucks about music when I was using, it's all about the next high! I'm never going back to that life! RIP Scott

    • @WhyTheHorseface
      @WhyTheHorseface 3 года назад +3

      @@kimbaldo3292 your story is contradicted by hundreds of legendary musicians who were heroin addicts going back nearly 100 years.

    • @kimbaldo3292
      @kimbaldo3292 3 года назад +24

      @@WhyTheHorseface the creativity existed in all those people long before drugs, anyone who claims the drugs made them more creative is a junkie in denial!

    • @MusiciansIgnite
      @MusiciansIgnite 3 года назад +7

      @@kimbaldo3292 amen. Charlie Parker even eventually told a peer in the 50’s that it didn’t help. Those people like Kim said were insanely created and felt they needed the drugs for creativity when it destroyed any creativity they actually naturally had.

  • @lordteabelly
    @lordteabelly 3 года назад +8

    I remember seeing them live in Manchester on their uk/euro tour of the first album. They were 2hrs late coming on stage, no doubt down to scott, but they were incredible once they did come on

  • @mightygahdo4719
    @mightygahdo4719 3 года назад +19

    Velvet Revolver extended scott life by a few years.

  • @mowrymurog
    @mowrymurog 3 года назад +40

    Did you say he broke sobriety after his dog’s death?!

    • @jeffjunge7663
      @jeffjunge7663 3 года назад +3

      That's what I heard as well

    • @hugolafhugolaf
      @hugolafhugolaf 3 года назад +22

      @@jeffjunge7663 Valid reason, if there ever was one.

    • @jeffjunge7663
      @jeffjunge7663 3 года назад +22

      I agree 100% It's heartbreaking to lose a good pet.

    • @daytonnielsen5268
      @daytonnielsen5268 3 года назад +4

      I heard that too!! Made me smirk a little.

    • @thismothafuckasaid7304
      @thismothafuckasaid7304 2 года назад +5

      Makes sense bc.. "My dog's happiness is genuine when I come home and he doesn't care what anyone else thinks of me"

  • @SeeBrake
    @SeeBrake 2 года назад +4

    I remember seeing them in 2004 and 2005 and it was an amazing show. Saw them again at a KROQ fest on the tour to support Libertad and Scott broke his foot onstage and did the rest of it sitting on a barstool. You could tell the end was near with that group. I'm just thankful I got to see him 5x with STP when they reunited and he was great every time. RIP - wish I could see him perform again.

  • @mcmagiccracker
    @mcmagiccracker 3 года назад +2

    Video production is great, Sydd.

  • @The-Contractor
    @The-Contractor 3 месяца назад +1

    Sad when people of talent go down the dark road of substance abuse. It never fails to take them out and cut short their time of being a source of creativity.

  • @adamdavidsoddities8573
    @adamdavidsoddities8573 2 года назад +9

    Wow Scott got alot of grace and many 2nd chances due to his high status. So sad he couldn't overcome his addiction and move on with a promising career with a new band.

    • @SpiritusMundi4EVER
      @SpiritusMundi4EVER Год назад +2

      RIP 🙏

    • @dgenerated
      @dgenerated 11 месяцев назад +2

      That's addiction for you and the demons that most addicts struggle with

  • @jonescrusher1
    @jonescrusher1 3 года назад +14

    lol when the wives start getting involved in the business affairs you're in desperate trouble. It's a minor miracle they produced anything.

    • @jimmyfreeman9133
      @jimmyfreeman9133 3 года назад

      That's a stupid game that business people don't play.

  • @phillipb9328
    @phillipb9328 3 года назад +8

    I forgot about set me free, great tune!

  • @matronthorn.official
    @matronthorn.official 3 года назад +5

    The title of this video is my favorite "I see what you did there" occurrence this year

  • @rogerhage7392
    @rogerhage7392 3 года назад +8

    Slither was my all time favorite song

  • @josezerpa8177
    @josezerpa8177 7 месяцев назад

    Great video bro! I saw velvet sometime in 2004 in Cologne, Germany. It was the probably the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. Later on I saw Weiland again in Calgary in 2012 with STP. I consider myself very fortunate to have seen these two iconic bands! RIP Scott

  • @robpaxson4455
    @robpaxson4455 3 года назад +4

    was lucky enough to see them in 2004...great show, did the best STP and GnR songs, plus Aerosmith's No More No More

  • @V4Now
    @V4Now 3 года назад +28

    Lesson, if you're gonna do any drug, just stick to sugar.
    Diabetes is more managable 👍🏾

  • @tdalb8985
    @tdalb8985 3 года назад +21

    Weiland was great in STP, and great in Velvet Revolver.
    If he could've kept himself straight, there is no doubt he'd gone down in history as one of the best ever.
    But then, if Guns and Roses hadn't lost their way, they'd be the Rolling Stones of our Generation.
    Drugs and drink and Axel's ego.
    The Appetite for Destruction album, is something I played over and over.

    • @JoseBarahonaes
      @JoseBarahonaes 3 года назад

      Just to think that they could be filling stadiums (gnr) just like MetallicA, U2, The Rolling Stones and other great bands still did not so long ago...

  • @warrenwebb8172
    @warrenwebb8172 3 года назад +4

    Last summer you said you were working on a Talk Show video. I hope it comes soon!

    • @flhxri
      @flhxri 3 года назад +1

      And army of anyone

  • @steven13cody
    @steven13cody 3 года назад +3

    Scott’s book discusses his time with VR, pretty cool perspective.

  • @vante2129
    @vante2129 Год назад +4

    Scott Weiland was the last real rockstar

    • @treezun
      @treezun 16 дней назад

      Couldn't up vote this more.

  • @denisefreitas6727
    @denisefreitas6727 3 года назад +11

    I miss Scott Weiland. Great singer!

    • @denisefreitas6727
      @denisefreitas6727 3 года назад +1

      @@kazombie9784 True.

    • @jasonsager5180
      @jasonsager5180 2 года назад +2

      Your right Denise they kick ass

    • @jasonsager5180
      @jasonsager5180 2 года назад +1

      Nice to c a woman know good music the ones I know like hip hop or country nothing wrong with it but metal is where it is I like going to concerts but usually go alone all my buddies can’t go wives get on them lol

  • @erinwalker711
    @erinwalker711 3 года назад +13

    "I Fall to Pieces " is the best Rock Ballad of the Aughts. Now,that Scott Weiland's dead, I get uncomfortable wachting the song's music video.

    • @juicepick7131
      @juicepick7131 3 года назад +5

      Right? Prophetic.

    • @7ate992
      @7ate992 3 года назад +2

      Lame, lazy song. Repeats the same lyrics too much

    • @erinwalker711
      @erinwalker711 3 года назад

      @@7ate992 It's so heartbreaking because it is about addiction and Weiland lost his 20 year battle with it 5 years ago.

  • @timtim-hf3ut
    @timtim-hf3ut 3 года назад +10

    Great band and album. Fall to pieces is a classic song

  • @emaheiwa8174
    @emaheiwa8174 3 года назад +22

    I wish the 2nd album was as good as the first. Kinda sad

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 года назад +10

      Yeah I liked the last fight and a few other tracks but I liked contraband a lot better

    • @Koldfusion234
      @Koldfusion234 3 года назад +4

      Agreed. The lyrics on the 2nd album were, frankly, quite bland and not very deep. The album was carried by decent melodies and Slash’s guitar work

    • @DushyantsCHANNEL
      @DushyantsCHANNEL 3 года назад +3

      About 60% filler, just like GnR

    • @ThatOtherRaccoon
      @ThatOtherRaccoon 3 года назад

      Hmm...I really thought that Libertad was better.

    • @Fakename70
      @Fakename70 3 года назад

      But it wasn’t. It happens.

  • @JackWebb713
    @JackWebb713 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have a feeling that Scott disappointed every person he ever met.

  • @SuperSneakySteve
    @SuperSneakySteve 9 месяцев назад +1

    I just realized after many years that I've never seen Slash's eyes.

  • @cemvural7245
    @cemvural7245 2 года назад +9

    Wow, I really wish Izzy and Duff had the vocal duties and kept on creating amazing songs. Scott was pretty cool, but a quartet would have been very nostalgic and cool.

  • @MS-it9vv
    @MS-it9vv 3 года назад +5

    I excitedly bought Contraband and listened to it for the first time while driving with a friend. When we were finished listening, he commented “it’s OK, it just doesn’t sound like they really found ‘their sound’ yet.” When Libertad came out, we listened to it together. His comment: “It sounds like music that was only 90% finished.”
    I hate to say it, because I liked all the musicians involved, but my friend was right. VR wasn’t really inspired music... it was more like a cash-in by some very talented musicians who just happened to connect for a couple years for a payday in their own journeys elsewhere.

  • @jamesbenton9793
    @jamesbenton9793 3 месяца назад +1

    I saw velvet revolver on that final tour in 2008 at the Birmingham academy, UK. Slash and Scott got into it on stage and slash stormed off for a few minutes before returning back to the stage and carrying on with the show. Scott kept saying stuff like “this is the last velvet revolver show” etc. I saw velvet revolver live three times (first uk tour at Birmingham NIA, download festival and Birmingham academy) and I saw stone temple pilots reunion at download 2010. One thing I can say is that even though Scott Weiland was most likely under the influence his voice and showmanship was always top tier. He was highly entertaining and one hell of a frontman.

  • @sgrafx
    @sgrafx 8 месяцев назад +1

    I bought and listened to that first album over and over. They were one of the last true rock bands.

  • @The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage
    @The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage 3 года назад +4

    It's crazy how many of the rock and metal musicians of the 90s are no longer with us.
    Many of the faces of grunge either died at the height of their careers, like Kurt, or died later like Scott and Chris.
    Pantera lost Dimebag and Vinnie.
    Type O Negative lost Peter Steele.
    I guess the 90s and 2000s were a darker time for musicians. Things seem to be a bit better now, with increased awareness of mental health and addiction.

    • @bullfrogpondshop3179
      @bullfrogpondshop3179 3 года назад +1

      @Christopher Bingham look at the song lyrics and titles. Everything was "boo hoo, poor me, my life sucks, I'm sad." What a miserable music decade.
      Meanwhile, "ugly" was now "in": These people made the hippies look like personal hygiene experts. You had all the girls walking around in flannel shirts and combat boots (thaaaaat's attractive). That clown Marilyn Manson.
      The 80's was the party and the 90's was the hangover from hell.

    • @jimschwandt8089
      @jimschwandt8089 3 года назад

      @Christopher Bingham Just an accident of fate, really. Plenty of musicians did drugs (regrettably) in both decades. Unfortunately, the majority of the fatalities came from the 90's. Musically speaking, I thought the 90's were tremendous. I've always felt they had the 80's beat hands down, at least if you're talking about rock as a music, and not the pop that passed for "rock" in the 80's. It's a pity that so much talent ended up leaving so soon. You hear so many people talk about not doing drugs - it makes you wonder when everyone's going to learn.

    • @johnbeckwith1361
      @johnbeckwith1361 3 года назад +1

      Funny how artists of the 70'/ 80's died from joy and the artists of the 90's died from depression.

    • @bullfrogpondshop3179
      @bullfrogpondshop3179 3 года назад

      @@johnbeckwith1361 Exactly my point

    • @jimschwandt8089
      @jimschwandt8089 3 года назад

      @@johnbeckwith1361 Drugs never bring joy, only a false sense of it.

  • @deepvoodoo
    @deepvoodoo 3 года назад +3

    I first heard of Slash because he played on some of MJ's records. It's hard to believe that of all the singers he's worked with, MJ falls more in the normal/professional category compared to SOOOOOME people.

  • @vr112
    @vr112 8 месяцев назад +2

    They made some damn good music for a short time

  • @franticromantic5301
    @franticromantic5301 3 года назад +2

    I had no idea that Weiland wasnt the full time lyricist on Contraband. That explains a great deal.

  • @matinuskathundrrphukk3233
    @matinuskathundrrphukk3233 Год назад +2

    Scott was a great songwriter. His lyrics more obtuse darker and psychodelick than his grunge peers. All the great ones have a lot of heart, then they die and leave us scratching our heads.

    • @celestenelson6375
      @celestenelson6375 3 месяца назад

      Truth. He was powerful and beautiful.. he was on the top with only a few other great ones. So sad.

  • @earlyjenkins1670
    @earlyjenkins1670 3 года назад +4

    Loved this very talented band.man they could have done so much more.saw them rock virgin festival at pimlico racetrack maryland.explosive hard driving rock.scott rip my brother.wish these guys would get Scott's son to pick up microphone and put out that material they were sitting on.the son is in band suspect 282 with slashes son and Robert t the bass player in Metallica son is also in that band.scotts son sounds just like him.come back guys for encore
    Maybe even get izzy stradlin also.

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins5552 3 года назад

    Great information, the research work behind every video is very impressive. Is there an audioslave feature done already?

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  3 года назад

      I did a few stories on audioslave but will do a deeper dive on the band

  • @cesarcristiangomezsoto7989
    @cesarcristiangomezsoto7989 3 года назад

    Nice video

  • @dannydillon4144
    @dannydillon4144 2 года назад +3

    Scott was so talented he should’ve had two bands in rock hall of fame but his drug addiction stopped that

  • @nikstar1313
    @nikstar1313 3 года назад +5

    Matt Soren always looked like a 40 yo trying to look 20..

  • @burnthetrolls5971
    @burnthetrolls5971 3 года назад +2

    Damn I love Velvet Revolver R.I.P. Scott it's too bad they didn't release more music after Libertad

  • @markthrasher6770
    @markthrasher6770 2 года назад +1

    Poor Scott... tragic but a lovable guy. Not reprobate like all the others you really don't miss or feel heartbroken about.....

  • @johnjoyce5658
    @johnjoyce5658 3 года назад +13

    Matt Sorum easily one of the most underrated Rock drummers of all time

    • @sean8470
      @sean8470 Год назад +2

      i agree but he does come across as "i must be the smartest guy in the room"

    • @round105
      @round105 Год назад

      @@sean8470 great drummer but I've heard he is also a bit difficult to work with. You can tell he is a bit if a douche

    • @sean8470
      @sean8470 Год назад +1

      @@round105 yep I agree on that same can be said also of m. Portnoy who seems to be in love with himself

  • @risboturbide9396
    @risboturbide9396 3 года назад +4

    Scott Weiland is my hero. Thanx for your channel, maaaan

  • @danialmr5960
    @danialmr5960 3 года назад

    Solid content

  • @royoung9432
    @royoung9432 3 года назад +2

    Why do we know the band Velvet Revolver? Simple, because of Scott Weiland. He is one of the best. It’s easy to criticize him, but his genius should be recognized. Too often it is ignored unfortunately.

  • @raphaelcalado4335
    @raphaelcalado4335 2 года назад +4

    I love Stone Temple Pilots and Guns and Roses, so Velvet Revolver was a no brainer to me.
    What epic band and despite its short duration they marked their name in history!
    Rest in Peace Scott, you are a legend!

  • @ct5625
    @ct5625 3 года назад +5

    Seen Weiland a few times, both as front man for STP and VR. I think it was between 2007 and 2010, and he didn't impress me at all. I guess if you're a diehard fan you'd probably forgive it and just enjoy the show but as someone who wasn't particularly into either he just came across as a cliche of the drugged up or drunk rock front man, like Axl but without the vocal ability. The drama seems to be a common thing around a certain group of rockers, and not surprisingly they're the same ones who tell tales about each other using all kinds of substances.
    I mean, it's not like you hear these stories about Foo Fighters or Pearl Jam, right? You'd think these old rockers would have worked out by now that if you start a band with drug users things are going to go bad pretty quickly.

    • @WillJM81280
      @WillJM81280 3 года назад

      That’s bc the two bands you mentioned are dictatorships. Eddie has run PJ since Vitalogy and Foo’s was always Dave’s project.