Ashley is ambiguous in the book. For example, he tells her that he can't stand the idea of her sleeping with Rett and after that Scarlett announces to Rett that she wants to have a separate room...
Actually, no. He kisses her multiple times and says in the fields that he loves her so much he could easily forget Melanie. He was absolutely leading her on.
Anyone who has experienced unrequited love, followed by the realization that the object of affections was never truly worth it anyway, can relate to Scarlett here - in spite of her horrible actions throughout the film that should not be condoned, this is what makes her truly relatable.
He was the only man who wouldn't propose. She knew she had all the county boys waiting for her to encourage them. Ashley, and his family, loved art, music, and theatre, which Scarlett would hate. Besides this, she was 15.
@@ajmosutra7667 well she’s hugging all over Ashley in front of Rhett(her husband) even though it may be because she’s sad Rhett seems to take it as Scarlett loving Ashley more than him
@@ChristineTheHippie I know right. Tired of loving a woman who loves him but obsessed really with someone else. Scarlett got what she deserved at the end ending up alone.
@@timmyreyes1993 True though I don’t really feel sorry for him. He was a very selfish conceited person and never really wanted to change. You can’t expect good things to happen when that’s the case.
ChristineTheHippie that’s what I said. He told her on several occasions in fact. Most importantly the scene in the library but she didn’t want to listen and she slapped him for no apparent reason.
@@kaylajames9334 I am sorry but Ashley was quite ambiguous on the point, talking about family obligations, what was expected of him and how good Melania was. Pretty much everybody was praising all along the novel/the movie how good Melania was and criticising Scarlet for speaking her mind, being too attractive and doing what she had to do to survive. At the beginning, Scarlet is a young woman, with very little experience of reading into what people say and compare and contrast with their actions. At that stage, she could not see that Ashley was trying to let her down gently. In her mind, instead of seeing the relationship as unrequited love, she imagined Ashley and her would have been together, had it not been for his family’s tradition of marrying cousins (Eek! :-/) , additionally Ashley came to represent the charmed Southern life of her childhood, in which the biggest worry was who to have lunch with at a party.
Rhett loved Scarlett from the start. Scarlet was in love with the idea of Ashley, a fantasy that didn’t exist. She always loved Rhett even Melanie told him Scarlett loves Rhett much more than she knows. It’s why Melanie never took the rumors seriously over Ashley and scarlet. Rhett took scarlet back later. One good thing about scarlett is she’s persistent.
She was still despondent about Melanie. In the book there’s even a passage where she vows that she would gladly never look at Ashley again if that were the price to pay for Melanie to get better and live.
In the movie, yes it was too late. But in the book, I think there was still hope for them for 2 reasons: (1) he doesn’t actually leave the house in the book, he goes upstairs to pack, which gives her time to try to talk him out of it, time she doesn’t have in the movie. And (2) in the book, she has two other children, who he loves like his own, and for their sake he might’ve changed his mind and stayed, especially considering the gossips in town would inevitably realize they’d split up, no matter what precautions they took, and given the time period, that would’ve ruined the children’s future prospects.
@@LukeLovesRose either way, there’s a reason the story ends where it does. Mitchell in fact wrote the last scene first. She always wanted it to end that way. The sequels that were later written were not authorized by her estate. She had no intention of there ever being a definitive answer as to whether Scarlett got Rhett back or not.
I wish this movie had more closure at the end. Maybe let them settle down a bit and fast forward to a few months or even a year later to see Rhett and Scarlett back together. I refuse to watch the "2nd" movie made in the early 90s because it doesn't have the magic that Viviene and Clark captured.
The main theme of the movie is survival. It was groundbreaking to show a woman sweeping all men to become wealthy and powerful even if she was unscrupulous. It was just interwoven woth the Old South myths and thus has a negative color today. It could be set in another period of history and be equally effective.
AShley was unable to adapt to the situation....In fact he struggled through the whole thing. Had war not happened he would have been content living forever at 12 Oaks plantation.
I kinda understand scarlett cause i was in her situation. You know on that time the face or behavior doesn't matter you just love the person even though he or she does not loves you back. It's something that i don't get the reason even till today. But i think that's what heart is. You love someone for no actual reason and it's not anyone's fault
It's because she fucked him before marriage. No matter how good Rhett was to her, she always loved Ashley because he was her first. Scalett is the PERFECT example as to why you never wife up h03s.
@@missjemma9978 it's because that's called COGNITIVE DISSONANCE, my dear. Not being able to reach the fruit high upon the tree and then claiming you never wanted it to begin with. What we call in modern terms: COPE. She literally never showed Rhett any [real] love, EVEN after having a daughter together for 5 years. She literally still had Ashley's picture only a few scenes before this one. She only "realized" she didn't love Ashley after she saw that he loved his wife and never really loved her.
@missjemma9978 again, look up [cognitive dissonance]. Just because she wanted what she couldn't have does NOT mean she didn't love what she wanted, and did love what she already had
this is why i don't like Scarlett. Ashley made it clear that he loved Melanie and not her, but no, Scarlett stayed convinced that she and Ashley belonged together. she manipulated everyone just so she could hold onto Ashley no matter how much she hurt them
It is frustrating to us as a viewer because we can see each character from a distanced perspective. Scarlett had not yet had the realization that she loved Rhett, it was impossible for her to realize it before this point. I think this is because Scarlett is not an introspective person, she has no emotional insight. She needed an event like Rhett leaving her to realize that she needed to get him back because when he was around there was never a reason for her to worry, she always knew she would see him again, she always knew they still had a connection, she knew she could turn to him and he would be there for her, there was never a need for panic or realization to strike her.
No, in the book she actually tells him off for being torn between her and Melanie all this time and never appreciating the gem he had in Melanie and never fully owning her as his wife. It's super super sad :'(. Both she and Ashley didn't realize how good they had it in Rhett and Melanie respectively and messed everything all up. There's hope that Scarlett can get back Rhett, but Ashley will never get Melanie back.
I believe ashley was in love with scarlett more than melanie, but he thought melanie was the only one that could ground him and give him what he needed. That s why in the end he needed her. He is very bipolar and wasn not fair to scarlett. I mean a guy that tells you that he doesn t love you and then kisses you wouldn t give you the same idea? I believe we all would have acted like scarlett. Especialy since he reminded her of her life before the war. And also illusions play a great part here.
Everyone talking about how Ashley sent her mixed signals. DOESN’T MATTER. She was a damn married woman. You don’t just use someone as a placeholder until someone else you’ve been wanting is free. That’s screwed up. No wonder Rhett finally gave up.
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"You should have told me years ago you loved her and not me."
HE DID!!!!!
He literally kept kissing her
@@Ella-bg2ve that's lust. He still told her they would never work out in marriage because they were different people
Ashley is ambiguous in the book. For example, he tells her that he can't stand the idea of her sleeping with Rett and after that Scarlett announces to Rett that she wants to have a separate room...
Actually, no. He kisses her multiple times and says in the fields that he loves her so much he could easily forget Melanie. He was absolutely leading her on.
Anyone who has experienced unrequited love, followed by the realization that the object of affections was never truly worth it anyway, can relate to Scarlett here - in spite of her horrible actions throughout the film that should not be condoned, this is what makes her truly relatable.
I never understood her attraction to Ashley. Give me a Rhett any day.
She loved him because he was gentle. Rhett was too much like her, rough and abrasive.
Amen!!!!🙏
He was the only man who wouldn't propose. She knew she had all the county boys waiting for her to encourage them. Ashley, and his family, loved art, music, and theatre, which Scarlett would hate.
Besides this, she was 15.
Rhett has a big scary mouth when he smiles. Ashley any day for me.
She was in love with the idea of Ashley
Rhett's face alone does the talking
Yes. "I've had ENOUGH."
What did it say?
@@ajmosutra7667 well she’s hugging all over Ashley in front of Rhett(her husband) even though it may be because she’s sad Rhett seems to take it as Scarlett loving Ashley more than him
Scarlett was the most frustrating character ever in this scene. She never understood things. And Melanie was always nice to everyone.
Rhett just got sick of it all.
Who can blame him?
@@ChristineTheHippie I know right. Tired of loving a woman who loves him but obsessed really with someone else. Scarlett got what she deserved at the end ending up alone.
And he tried to make her happy but she was her own worst enemy
@@ChristineTheHippie exactly
@@timmyreyes1993 True though I don’t really feel sorry for him. He was a very selfish conceited person and never really wanted to change. You can’t expect good things to happen when that’s the case.
Narcissism. Only concentrated on oneself. Not aware of the rest of the world, all the people around us who care and love truly
"You should have told my years ago you loved her and not me" Umm, he did!
Definitely...but she was never ready to hear it. Very unfortunate she wasted so much time chasing Ashley and realized it too late.
ChristineTheHippie that’s what I said. He told her on several occasions in fact. Most importantly the scene in the library but she didn’t want to listen and she slapped him for no apparent reason.
@@kaylajames9334 I am sorry but Ashley was quite ambiguous on the point, talking about family obligations, what was expected of him and how good Melania was. Pretty much everybody was praising all along the novel/the movie how good Melania was and criticising Scarlet for speaking her mind, being too attractive and doing what she had to do to survive. At the beginning, Scarlet is a young woman, with very little experience of reading into what people say and compare and contrast with their actions. At that stage, she could not see that Ashley was trying to let her down gently. In her mind, instead of seeing the relationship as unrequited love, she imagined Ashley and her would have been together, had it not been for his family’s tradition of marrying cousins (Eek! :-/) , additionally Ashley came to represent the charmed Southern life of her childhood, in which the biggest worry was who to have lunch with at a party.
@@judgementalpuddinglondonca7265 I agree. Fair point.
@@dawnwelch6579 I've been there before once or twice. Now I've known better. Love does crazy things.
Scarlett: “you should have told me years ago that you loved her and not me”
Me: he f***ing did!!! Nyaaaah! 🤬😤
Rhett loved Scarlett from the start. Scarlet was in love with the idea of Ashley, a fantasy that didn’t exist. She always loved Rhett even Melanie told him Scarlett loves Rhett much more than she knows. It’s why Melanie never took the rumors seriously over Ashley and scarlet. Rhett took scarlet back later. One good thing about scarlett is she’s persistent.
While everyone else was sad about Melanie was dying, Scarlett was busy thinking if she can finally get Ashley’s love.
Definition of a narcissist.
She was still despondent about Melanie. In the book there’s even a passage where she vows that she would gladly never look at Ashley again if that were the price to pay for Melanie to get better and live.
I think it's because that's the only guy who doesn't like her back. And she wanted that.
this scene, the whole movie, is like a beautiful romantic painting brought to life. Magical film
URG i was so happy when Scarlett finally realized her love for Rhett, but she had effed it all up man😭💔 Rhett was doneeee
I'm glad she finally figured it out. Unfortunately it was too late. She pushed her soul mate too far
In the movie, yes it was too late. But in the book, I think there was still hope for them for 2 reasons: (1) he doesn’t actually leave the house in the book, he goes upstairs to pack, which gives her time to try to talk him out of it, time she doesn’t have in the movie. And (2) in the book, she has two other children, who he loves like his own, and for their sake he might’ve changed his mind and stayed, especially considering the gossips in town would inevitably realize they’d split up, no matter what precautions they took, and given the time period, that would’ve ruined the children’s future prospects.
@@12classics39 and what we saw in the movie was far more powerful than what you just described
@@LukeLovesRose either way, there’s a reason the story ends where it does. Mitchell in fact wrote the last scene first. She always wanted it to end that way. The sequels that were later written were not authorized by her estate. She had no intention of there ever being a definitive answer as to whether Scarlett got Rhett back or not.
Although Scarlett chased Ashley for years glad he stayed faithful to melaine. Feel for him losing his beloved wife. 😭😭
And cousin
I wish this movie had more closure at the end. Maybe let them settle down a bit and fast forward to a few months or even a year later to see Rhett and Scarlett back together. I refuse to watch the "2nd" movie made in the early 90s because it doesn't have the magic that Viviene and Clark captured.
The main theme of the movie is survival. It was groundbreaking to show a woman sweeping all men to become wealthy and powerful even if she was unscrupulous. It was just interwoven woth the Old South myths and thus has a negative color today. It could be set in another period of history and be equally effective.
AShley was unable to adapt to the situation....In fact he struggled through the whole thing.
Had war not happened he would have been content living forever at 12 Oaks plantation.
I kinda understand scarlett cause i was in her situation. You know on that time the face or behavior doesn't matter you just love the person even though he or she does not loves you back. It's something that i don't get the reason even till today. But i think that's what heart is. You love someone for no actual reason and it's not anyone's fault
It's because she fucked him before marriage. No matter how good Rhett was to her, she always loved Ashley because he was her first.
Scalett is the PERFECT example as to why you never wife up h03s.
@@missjemma9978 it's because that's called COGNITIVE DISSONANCE, my dear. Not being able to reach the fruit high upon the tree and then claiming you never wanted it to begin with. What we call in modern terms: COPE.
She literally never showed Rhett any [real] love, EVEN after having a daughter together for 5 years. She literally still had Ashley's picture only a few scenes before this one. She only "realized" she didn't love Ashley after she saw that he loved his wife and never really loved her.
@missjemma9978 again, look up [cognitive dissonance].
Just because she wanted what she couldn't have does NOT mean she didn't love what she wanted, and did love what she already had
@@missjemma9978 COPE
this is why i don't like Scarlett. Ashley made it clear that he loved Melanie and not her, but no, Scarlett stayed convinced that she and Ashley belonged together. she manipulated everyone just so she could hold onto Ashley no matter how much she hurt them
I also do find her annoying
It is frustrating to us as a viewer because we can see each character from a distanced perspective. Scarlett had not yet had the realization that she loved Rhett, it was impossible for her to realize it before this point. I think this is because Scarlett is not an introspective person, she has no emotional insight. She needed an event like Rhett leaving her to realize that she needed to get him back because when he was around there was never a reason for her to worry, she always knew she would see him again, she always knew they still had a connection, she knew she could turn to him and he would be there for her, there was never a need for panic or realization to strike her.
No, in the book she actually tells him off for being torn between her and Melanie all this time and never appreciating the gem he had in Melanie and never fully owning her as his wife. It's super super sad :'(. Both she and Ashley didn't realize how good they had it in Rhett and Melanie respectively and messed everything all up. There's hope that Scarlett can get back Rhett, but Ashley will never get Melanie back.
@@mrs_mothra547 I agree that the book made the situation not so simple.
There are definitely young women like Scarlett in real life.
Poor Ashley.
The "Rhett,wait for me"...still as iconic and pivotal in 2024 as in 1939...
Aged of its time? Or just universal rhyme?
I love how he's just ignoring the totally insane shit she is saying. He knows she's utterly nuts. 😂
I believe ashley was in love with scarlett more than melanie, but he thought melanie was the only one that could ground him and give him what he needed. That s why in the end he needed her. He is very bipolar and wasn not fair to scarlett. I mean a guy that tells you that he doesn t love you and then kisses you wouldn t give you the same idea? I believe we all would have acted like scarlett. Especialy since he reminded her of her life before the war. And also illusions play a great part here.
Everyone talking about how Ashley sent her mixed signals. DOESN’T MATTER. She was a damn married woman. You don’t just use someone as a placeholder until someone else you’ve been wanting is free. That’s screwed up. No wonder Rhett finally gave up.
It was too lateeeeee
too little too late scarlett they do say you dont know what you've got until it's gone and you certainly learned the hard way 🤔