B9 3.0T Tuning Deep Dive Pt.2 | 034Motorsport Tech Talk
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 Why do you do full E85 while EPL offers E40?
1:05 How are your TQ values higher than APR, EPL, or Unitronic on the B9 S4 tune?
4:23 What's the highest Ethanol Content you're able to run in the B9?
5:19 B9.5 Tuning ETA?
6:17 How will your Hybrid Files be priced? Do I need to purchase the full tune again?
7:14 Do I need the AL552 TCU Tune on my B9 S4? What does it do?
12:25 What should I do if I have 92 octane?
13:32 Is there any longterm issues of running E85 in my B9?
14:20 Hybrid Turbo files?
15:45 When will there be map switching for the B9 3.0T?
16:34 Do you have a sense of what level of Horsepower and Torque this platform could take before requiring internals?
17:40 What do you do to manage heat on the 3.0T?
20:31 Can I buy the tune today if I have a B9.5 or do I have to wait?
21:40 What do beta users have to say about the EA839 tune?
24:31 How is fuel economy affected?
25:37 When will the Stage 2 TCU tune come out?
26:15 Does the tune affect the exhaust valve functionality?
26:45 Does your tune turn off the Auto Start-Stop?
27:13 Will stage 2 remove the auto upshift feature?
26:09 Can you go into the technical advantages implemented into the B9 S4 tuning?
30:10 What is Volumetric Efficiency and how does it affect dyno charts?
32:30 Do you offer Neutral Revving to redline?
32:35 Will this tune make its way to the C8 A6/A7?
32:55 What makes your Launch Control different?
35:07 Is the B9 S4 faster than the B8 S4 Stage 1 versus Stage 1?
36:22 Are intercoolers required for the B9 S4 on Stage 1?
36:55 Crackles?
37:23 Will there be a P34 for the B9 S4?
37:55 In Canada we have no E85, is meth another good option?
38:45 What is the process from switching from pump gas to E85?
39:10 What are your thoughts on Methanol injection?
39:42 Will you make a cast intake manifold with a meth bung?
41:13 Is this tune available at tuning dealers? 
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So excited to flash this stage 1 e85 on my 18’ B9 S5
Yes, you will love it, let us know when you drive it!
Just ordered!
Fantastic update as always gentlemen. Question for you; I have the option of: 94 octane (10% ethanol) or 91 octane (no ethanol) here in Toronto. I'm assuming it's best to be over octane as you've advised ie. go with 93 file on the 94. Would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Glad you're enjoying the updates! Yes always overshoot the octane over the tune, so for 94, run the 93 file, it will work well and the ECU will give extra timing if the octane point allows it. Enjoy!
Go with esso 93 if your in toronto thats what I use.
Can we get a video or talk on the D4, please???
I only have tuning experience with my previous car (335i) - I blew through spark plugs and coils like a wild man - and experienced misfire issues. I didn’t have any other modifications besides the tune and an axle back exhaust. The only thing keeping me from buying your tune is the concern of blowing through plugs and coils (and subsequent misfires). Do you recommend a plug change before installing the tune? On a non modified s5 - what do you think a reasonable lifespan will be for the plugs with your tune installed?
Sounds like some bad tuning, you definitely won’t have that experience with our products 👍🏼
I'm considering purchasing the stage 1 93 octane tune. I'm in Florida. Can I safely run this tune at sea level? Or should I consider running the 91 octane map?
Also, I'm cross shopping with the unitronic version. They seems to produce more hp and less torque where your tunes produce more torque and less hp. Why? Which us better?
Absolutely! You will get all the octanes with a purchase and out tuning is actually developed at sea level, but is suitable and Engineered for all elevations. Thanks!
You said some 2020/2021 have a different processor for the ecu and that software will be available shortly; how do we know if we have the different processor or not? Maybe mine’s able to be tuned now?
Shoot an email to tuning@034Motorsport.com 👍🏼
Could you talk about the engine differences between rs5 and S5 b9 hp and tuning capabilities
I just purchased a new 2021 nogaro blue S4 and eager to not be stock anymore and hear good things about your company. Did you guys release a tune for the b9.5 yet?
B9 and B9.5 are the same in everything beside the way they look
@@noahroofian7927- no they’re not. The 9.5’s don’t all use the same CPU’s within the same Bosch ECU. Also, I think the TCU has apparently locked out some of the “tuning”. I’m pretty sure they’ve mentioned it in a previous video, but probably best to confirm with these guys!
Would removing the automatic shift up/down with the stage 2 TCU add the RS shifting point markers (green, yellow, red) on the S4/5 Virtual Cockpit? If so that would be awesome!
Unfortunately, it does not.
@@034motorsport oh well, full shifting control is still great. Thank you for the quick reply on an old video!
When your top deep in to modifying your 8.5 so you cant and wont get a 9 to start over even tho the numbers are so good!!! If my 3.0t blows maybe or just a engine swap
So, I just purchased a 2019 Audi S5 Premium Plus with the Sports package. I am coming from driving a 2015 Mustang GT with a few mods.
Looking at your site and info (and please correct me if I am wrong), If I get the Stage 2 91 (454 HP / 542 TQ) I will use the 91 octane, BUT can put and use 93 octane if accessible.
BUT if I get the Stage 2 93 (476 HP / 576 TQ) I can ONLY use 93 octane or higher.. Is this correct?
So, I have to think that increasing the power and torque it would be a good idea to upgrade the Intercooler as well?
And I would think that this "voids" the initial warranty for Audi.
But can the Tune be backed out and back to Stock without being detected?
Hello, yes we offer different flash tunes for the various octanes, so the tune will not automatically adjust to octane that is lower, so 91 tune requires 91 and cannot run anything lower than 91, so on and so forth. If you want to run 93 fuel, then flash the 93 tune and you're good for anything 93 octane or higher. You cannot run a higher octane tune with lower octane fuel.
You don't need to install an intercooler, but if you do the ECU will make more power as heat will be reduced and flow will be increased, same goes for our intake system.
Technically a modification can only void the factory warranty if it causes a problem or failure, that's the law, but you can flash your car back to a stock file (which we also provide on our server) before you take it back to the dealership. Enjoy the new power!
@OU812Sarge but apparently the stealerships will still be able to see how many times it has been flashed
I'm looking to go stage 2 with an aftermarket downpipe and stock intake and intercooler. I live in Canada, where temperatures are pretty low for over half the year. Are there any concerns with having a stock intercooler and stock intake going into stage 2? I see that it's on the list of required hardware on your website. I'm not too concerned about the power loss from heat soak, I'm mainly concerned if there will be any damage to the engine, or will the thermal safety component of the tune manage that well enough so that no damage will be caused? Thanks in advance!
Those mods are "required" to make the advertised power, but not related to safety, our tuning maintains and optimizes all the factory heat management safety functionality, so the ECU will simply pull power based on intake temps. The stock intake loses power over ours, but again, not related to safety. Hope that helps!
@@javadshadzi4824 Appreciate the quick response!
Bruh.. get the dang intercooler & intake or don’t go to stage 1🤦♂️ the cooling upgrades aren’t for show, they prevent you from destroying your engine
Almost makes me want to sell my B8.5 S4 but a gently used B9 S4 with lower mileage is running $38,000+ 🥵 and my S4 is almost paid off.
B 8.5 are holding pretty good value, got 30k for my 16 s5 4 months ago granted it only has 30k miles and was a prestige. But love my b9 s5 coupe.
@@IRaoulDuke how do u think b9s will hold value now?
currently running FBO’s with jb4 super tempted to go full send on Stage 2 E85 but super worried about something breaking and my warranty being voided have you had any engine failures or major problems thus far ?
Our customers are loving our Stage 2 E85 and we have not had any reported engine failures due to our Dynamic+ tuning in the history of us offering Dynamic+ Tuning to our customers.
When developing our tuning for the EA839, we implemented key safety features to keep your engine running optimally and safely in virtually any condition - just like the OEM calibration. These were then verified by us on track through multiple high-temperature track events with our vehicles. This keeps the engine in your car happy and safe, providing consistent and repeatable power
@@034motorsport just have major trust issues my previous car was a Q50 3.0t that was also tuned and motor ended up going out so i had to pay around 8k for a new block 😪
@@034motorsport i just have major trust issues my previous car was a Q50 3.0t and i had it on a custom ecu tune but the motor ended up blowing so i had to pay around 8k for a new block 🥴
@@Dop3Mojo we don’t sell custom tuning. We offer highly engineered, standardized and optimized calibrations that are tested and proven, not surprised to hear you had issues with a custom tune. We don’t blow up motors.
@@Dop3Mojo you're risking it more with the JB4 than you would be with a legit tune like 034 offers.
thinking about going stage 3 next year on my '21 sq5.....what kind of 100-200 times do u think this platform can pull on stage 3?
im gonna go ahead and say yes
So what ur sayin is anyone that’s running E85 without a tcu tune is really not making the tq that’s the dyno says they are? Can anyone elaborate?? What’s the peak before the TCU start’s pulling torque without the TCU tune?
Hey! Not exactly what we're saying, so to clarify - from the factory, the TCU will limit TQ in the ECU when it feels the need to, so if only an ECU tune is performed, but the TCU isn't re-calibrated then yes, TQ will be limited as the TCU won't let the ECU make more TQ than the factory specified ranges. This can be overrun in the ECU by programming out the connection to the TCU, if that is done then TQ won't be limited, but a key safety feature of the factory TCU will have been removed. That's not something we're willing to do, as we make it a key priority that all factory safety systems remain. The right way to do it is to re-program the ECU and TCU so that peak TQ can be made and with all safety functions in place, that's what we are offering here in our B9 Tuning Bundle. Thanks!
@@034motorsport ahh i see thank you for the quick response fella’s ❤️
I have a 2022 Audi S5 convertible. Can I still use the tune you guys have available for the b9?
Definitely! We offer 2022+ tuning!
Cool, can I get my login credentials so I can flash mine?
You can, you should be getting them very soon, feel free to email tuning@034motorsport.com with any questions or concerns, thanks!
I’m thinking of getting a 2022 SQ5 do you like the diesel? Is there tuning for that? Please advise thx you
We do not have tuning for the diesel
@@034motorsport Can you tell me a little bit about it?
Will your tunes work on a UK B9 S4?
Yes they will I've already asked them the same question
They will!
can i run stage 2 + with stock cats and stock exhaust?
Stage 2+ can be run on the factory catalysts.
Do you guys offer a discount if I switch from a different competitor tune? I currently have Unitronic Stage 1 for my B9 SQ5, but now looking into your Stage 2 tune. I currently have all the supporting mods installed to do the Stage 2
We do! Shoot an email to tuning@034Motorsport.com thanks!
Looking to tune my 2018 S4. Got it from an Audi dealership 2 months ago with 28k miles on it, but it makes a few odd noises that has led me to be more weary than usual. Noises consist of a intermediate high pitched squeal at somewhat low RPM in almost every gear, but have heard that noise from several B9 S4s in youtube videos. Seems to just be a thing they do. The other is a ticking/slapping noise that happens less often but is very loud. Neither seem to impact performance. I tuned my B8.5 A4 with IE and had no issues until it started to burn oil, but that was most likely from the piston rings. Have you seen anything with the B9 S4s that would keep you from tuning it?
Hello! We have not experienced any significant issues with the EA839 thus far. If you have any concerns about your car, we would recommend utilizing your warranty before you tune your car.
The Stage 1 tune is definitely a great transformative mod!
Killer Miller I also have a 18s4 and have already bought the 034 tune, but am waiting to install it. My car suffers from the same high frequency whine under light load in 4th and 8th gear. It also has a what sounds like lifter tick under slight load or excessive valvetrain noise. It's been to the dealer 3 times and they say it performs as designed. They say they compared it to their cars and it's fine. I don't believe them because the engine noise started at 7500 miles and does not do it every time or day. The whine has been since I bought the car. So I feel the same hesitation about tuning it on top of these concerns. Did you have audi check your car out?
@@walkwood92gt418 Took my car in this morning for the 30k maintenance. Talked to the service guys and they said that it isn't anything pointing to part failure. Most likely just a characteristic of these S4s, even though it doesn't sound healthy. I am going to finish off this factory warranty, then probably go for the 034 tune. Yolo I guess
So we think that 600lb ft is ok for the ZF8 in this?
We have no reason to believe otherwise currently
@@javadshadzi4824 thanks, as soon as I left the comment, I’d see my your other video on this very topic!!! I felt stupid! I only ask because I was trying to figure out the difference between the variants of the ZF8 HP - you get the 45 55 70 etc. Are the physical transmissions the same and it’s just the TCU torque limit that allows the handling of additional torque? Or are there uprated component parts? Thanks for the reply!! Looking forward to getting my 034 tune via Awesome GTI here in the Uk!
@@beak700 no worries! As far as we know they are all mechanically basically the same with different programming, strenght wise there's no reason to believe they are any different. Glad to hear Awesome will be helping you out!
@@javadshadzi4824 thank you Sir!!! Very excited now!
@@beak700 45 55 75 etc are the general torque capacity/limit of the internal stalls/valves/gear. I had 3 ZF8 from BMW to Hellcat. The higher the number the more it is built.. “designed” to handle. If I remember correctly by just adding a 0nm to the end those model numbers is the torque rating for stock but obviously with TCU tuning it can handle more than that as my BMW ZF8 45(450nm aka 331ftlb) in my xDrive 335i was putting out more than 50% more torque than stock to the wheels without any slip because it was tuned both ECU/TCU just like 034 is doing, which is very smart of them to do.
The B9 S4 is a ZF8HP55 if I remember correctly so it is stronger than my BMW ZF8HP45 was. So it’s rated at 550nm(405lbft) so I would say it’s good for 650wtq MAX. Us BMW N55 and B58 guys already did the leg work in testing the lower 45 unit for years and the ZF8HP75 in the 4000+lb Hellcats are doing 1200+wtq without issue AS LONG AS THE TCU IS TUNED AND TQ & PRESSURE CONFIGS ARE DONE!
The beauty of the ZF8xxxx is it’s modular and easy to upgrade to higher rated torque specs if you need to push say 650+wtq for a long period of time. If you’re doing close to or more than that you need to build the trans eventually.
This is an easy upgrade for BMW cars not sure if compatible with the S4 but it should be.
revmaxconverters.com/product/zf-8hp-zeroflex-billet-7075-aluminum-e-clutch-drum-hub/
question, so can i run e85 without any fuel pump changes? spark plugs etc?!
Correct for Stage 1 E85 just fill the tank, no other changes.
i need more convincing to pull the plug on my 2018 sq5 lol
What would you like to know? We also have a 30-day money back guarantee. 👍🏼