Is the Traxxas UDR still the BEST? Losi Baja Rey 2.0 vs UDR
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Today we compare the Losi Baja Rey 2.0 Desert Truck to the king of R/C Desert Trucks, the Traxxas Unlimited Desert Racer. Which rc truck is faster, which has the best suspension, and is the UDR better? Let's find out!
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The main reason the UDR doesn't torque twist is because it uses the planetary reduction in the rear axle. This means that there's less torque being applied at the rear drive shaft which is what actually creates the torque twist. That's why it's set up like that
Great comparison review. I always enjoy your reviews. Especially how in-depth you go into the good, bad, and ugly. Since Amain carries all the brands, you don't have to be swayed by brand loyalty.
Nothing beats 15 UDRs with the boys on my cousin's ranch that has a 1/5 scale offroad track. Racing and rubbing chaos! So much fun! If you ever come to Livermore on the East Bay Brent you need to bring a few buds and some UDRs. It's a huge track much bigger, wider, and longer than a 1/8 scale offroad track. We usually race Losi DBXLs on it or Losi 5T and 30-degree Norths SCTs. We are in the process of building a Monster Jam course for the Raminators using Powerwheels to run and jump over. lol.
That sounds like a BLAST, nobody around me has one, My dad is still Lusting after one like mine it But is still hesitant to pull the trigger because of all the Mods I did to mine making it expensive if you buy it all at once
Both trucks look great. UDR gets my vote. Like button energized.
The UDR is so sweet. That suspension travel and movement is unrivaled. The only thing I know that takes away from it is the way the battery plugs in. I wouldn’t jump either truck (I have bashers for that) so I think the UDR is the clear surface vehicle winner
Have you tried putting a smaller pinion on? Sounds like the current setup is stressing the electronics.
Well don’t jump it like a rustler or an xmaxx lol
I only take mine over scale jumps that a truck like that would handle IRL and it is AMAZING at it my only REAL complaint is the Heat build up in the Drive Train I Modded to fix that and now it is NON STOP FUN
love it! thanks for taking the time Brett! lots of great info.
We're happy to make it! Thank you for making so many great r/c products for everyone to enjoy. From the King Sling to the Promoto, Losi has been knocking it out of the park!
-Brett
Hmmmmm!!!! Now I want both!!!! The ending slo-mo was AWESOME!!! Great vid Brett!!!🤘🤘🤘
UDR doesn’t torque twist cause of the planetarys
Great comparison👍 Glad you are showing these and comparing them how they were intended to be used as well.
Never had either but the UDR has held a special place in my heart for years and it still will. I need one one day
I bought a UDR at launch BEST PURCHASE EVER still my favorite RC HANDS DOWN, be prepared if you get one swap steering servos and work on keeping it cool the the motor and Drive train heat up A LOT! I ended up swapping all the diff housings, and gear reductions for aluminum Vitavon parts and added fans to the motor, now it NEVER gets hot no matter how hard or long I drive it bit IT IS WAY WORTH IT and even though it weighs WAY MORE now (around 20lbs+) the weight makes it look even more scale when driving, and when driving in a scale fashion it is QUITE sturdy even with the stock control arms usually lasting a year and the rear links lasting 2 years on average
@@ocularcavity8412 wow very cool!😎
udr is pretty bad ass but it feels like an abusive relationship everytime i buy a traxxas basher. i'll stick to losi, they don't have any shortage of scale vehicle types thats for sure
Traxxas is all plastic besides. Crappy plastic 😂
As somehow who grew up in this hobby in the late 90's ans early 00's, and is just getting back in to the hobby, it's been so odd to see Traxxas seemingly be considered the top brand, including truck racing. That idea would have been hysterical 20-25 years ago. It was Losi or Team Associated, and that was it. HPI was third, and traxxas was nothing more than an entry level basher. Full disclosure, I had a rustler and loved it, but my serious rig was a Losi XXT Matt Francis Edition.
It might seem like I'm being a brand snob, but I'm not. Ppl should run what they want, ppl enjoying the hobby is all that matters. I'm just making an observation about the crazy brand transformation Traxxas went thru in two decades. I know a lot had to do with marketing and corporate sponsorships that gave them major exposure in the real life off-road racing and enthusiast world, which translated to R/C success, but it's still very weird to see.
I dont think anyone not even traxxas considers their brand pro racing oriented, they make cars for everyone and for bashing
It's hysterical now. Traxxas is only a top brand because they sued competitors into the ground.
Honestly they have a single good platform these days. That's the slash. That is a fine chassis and it has HUGE support and racing leagues for them world wide.
They would get annihilated by anything else but there are so many club racers that race the slash it's always competitive much like the tt02
im new to this wonderful hobby i am not sure why there is not more marketing on Losi it is truly awesome brand. I may get baja rey i would like the bigger one but out of my budget now lol
@@jeepmanxj if you think their only good chassis is the slash, i feel like your in the same boat as bryant, you're just getting back into the hobby.
@@Martin-xh1hd they have the slash, trx4, and the UDR. The bandit, rustler, 4tec, x01, stampede and their Maxx line is mediocre at best.
The UDR is ok but it's so outshined by the losi Rey it's irrelevant.
If you think Traxxas has anything going but the slash, the best selling and most raced chassis on the planet, you are the new one. I've been in this hobby for so long I remember a time before Traxxas.
I fucking love my UDR
Agreed!
Saying they are close in size is like saying the UDR and big bro SBR 2.0 are close. They're the sane type but different classes. I have the SBR 2.0 and still think the Mojave is the best. Less realistic but better
Now do a video including the Super Baja Rey. This was fantastic fun.
The UDR doesn't need 2 batteries. There's a plug included that let's you use one battery.
Picking the UDR up today to add to the collection.... will be joing my XRT and XMAXX
Both are truly excellent trucks for sure. The points in this video are on point and mainly very accurate. Good comparison👍💯
Udr all day
I personally love the Baja rey because it seems to just be the sweet spot
Should have compared the super Baja Rey honestly. More comparable imo.
Also the UDR has no torque twist because Traxxas designed the rear axle with planetary gear reduction.
UDRS are great for about 15 minutes then you need a new one.
Thank you for the informative overview, Bret. I had a 2.0 and decided to return it to Amain as I found the cost too high after purchasing all the upgrades. Based on my driving preferences, the UDR is the ideal option for me, especially given its weight. Although I love Mojave,; I need to add a UDR to the collection.
I agree the UDR is the winner here. The Mojave is more of a slash 4x4 competitor, the UDR would be worlds different. I wouldn’t jump my UDR, I have bashers for that, but you can definitely send a Mojave pretty good!
@@V8chumphow can you two compare a UDR to a Mojave. They are 2 diffrent cars. one has solid rear axle and the other not. I think the Losi is so much better even without upgrades. Especially as it does not come from a stupid brand like T-Brand.
Ive owned A Baja Rey “mint 400” edition, and just recently got a first gen UDR. And I can confidently say, the UDR demolishes the Baja Rey, it out handles it by a long shot, it’s faster around corners and can deliver power smoother. Parts are also almost the same price which is funny considering one is a 7th scale
How does the Mojave compare ?
Mojave is independent suspension all around so it's not technically a desert truck. That being said its wayyyy more durable and honestly drives soo much better imo. (I have bothe the UDR and Mojave EXB) but don't get me wrong UDR looks better on the shelf 😂
On my gen 1 baja rey i took off the front sway bar and put 4x4 rustler wheels and tires on it extra long rear shocks and put the rear shocks up front with softer springs all the way around with 37.5w oil runs great on most surfaces still grip rolls and has the torque streer but its very manageable
Completely wrong info here regarding the diffs, lockers and vs performance, get a book the science is out there.
Losi discontinues their models after 2 years, Traxxas keeps production and supports of their products for decades. losi shelf queen after 3 years due to no repair parts.
Brazil? BR? QUERENDO UM DESSE
UDR is still the winner of all time
Based
True but the baja rey is half the price, in my opinion although the UDR is better the baja rey is pretty damn good for the price
Would you please do a udr vs super baja rey 2.0? I'm more interested in that truck.
Losi could've done a better job with the front grill and securing the spare tires not dangling around back there.
I own a Udr and one thing to mention is the, in my opinion, way too complicated drivetrain with it's planetary gears. While being awesome as a concept they're not made for high speed. The rear axle pumpkin is huge and gets very warm.
It's also a pain too work on. But the looks and suspension work is just epic
Are both vehicles difficult to work on? love the platform but i am very new to this hobby
@@Awakendabeast13 the udr is a little harder to work on than the Baja Rey. both are pretty tedious though. but if you want something you can easily upgrade for cheap or you don't have to worry about spares etc go with the Baja Rey. if you want a more realistic truck and don't mind more costly and limited parts go with the udr. it just depends. the udr is not meant for bashing it driving hard. it breaks quite often.
@@Awakendabeast13 most 1/10 scale sc wheels and tires will fit the Baja Rey as well as shocks and most crawler drive shafts will fit the rear. batteries are also easier and cheaper since you can get equal speeds to the udr on a 2s pack and if you really want to go fast you can do 3s. haha
@@LeBlanc10 so awesome to hear
I bet the Arrma Mohave whoops on both those trucks. the UDR breaks all the time. Its a POS. lets see all three at one time please.
Damn. Does the udr break a lot?
I really like both trucks. Allthough i will just say this. If both of this trucks was made by traxxas i would go with the f100. If losi made both of these trucks i would think twice before buying one or the other..
Ive 2 baja reys, one stock and one massively hopped up, and an udr and BR seems like a toy next to udr. Lack of weight, cage wayy to flexible and body flapping around, the way it bobs around like crappy 1/10 trucks. Impossible to tune it even remotely close to how udr handles. BR 1.0 is also total pain to work on, 2.0 makes it slightly easier but still I'd prefer to service 3 udr's instea of one BR.
Scale look wise UDR is just densely packed with full wheel wells and no gaps where light gets through while BR has massive gap over front shock tower which takes away tons of realism.
Battery wise, UDR runs perfect on single big 4S pack. Gets half hour of scale driving and sliding around.
UDR has no torque twist cos of the planetary gearing, the rear drive shaft spins at way higher speed but lower torque reducing it massively. Limit straps are partialy there to make sure it does not overextend as it would just explode at high rpm.
My udr broke so often that it is now just a shelf queen. It broke something every time I ran it and Traxxas customer service was no help! I spent almost as much money fixing it as I did buying it. I should also mention my truck has never seen a jump, just flat dirt.
What all broke on it? Just curious. We broke the hexes on the wheel, the plastic hexes on the axle, front-center driveshaft, rear-center driveshaft and the servo; think that's it. Oh maybe a front lower suspension arm and a rear trailing arm too.
-Brett
Front sway bar every time I ran it, front drive shaft 5 times, rear drive shaft 4 times, then the end all was when the motor bearing at the output side went bad locking the transmission and stripping the rear differential. Not to mention the ESC issues I was having. It would not run in cold weather. Anything below 40 degree forget it.
@@brianward8023Wow! You must be an expert UDR mechanic at this point. Thanks for sharing.
-Brett
Which truck is better at real speed, both look amazing in slow-mo but, to my knowledge, my eyes see in real time
I’d love to hear about temps! Some cars like my DBpro get HOT. I had to throw a dual motor fan setup on mine and remove the cockpit area to allow more airflow… and it still gets pretty dang hot, and I don’t live in a very hot area! It doesn’t even hit 90 degrees most summers
Out of the box my Baja Rey would get insanely hot really fast
Mojave.
For those of us in the UK or other places like Europe the UDR is the only choice we have between these two (unless we order it from Amain) as Horizon seems to not care about customers that aren't in the US. They've been a big part of why I'm giving up the hobby.
I dunno. Alixpress in the UK?
im lucky i wanted the losi because traxxas wont ship to Australia even through Amain, the only way to get a udr is if a local hobby shop happened to have one in stock, but im really happy with the Baja rey
One hobby shop is at fault for giving up the hobby? That’s weak brah.
I have that big 6th scale Losi SBR v2.0, and the UDR, I honestly love them both - really love them, they just do things slightly differently, the BR2 never appealed to me tbh, I adore how both the Losi and UDR handle, really feel fun.
Mojave?
Seen my udr vs my buddy's Baja. Good bash but its clear. Baja more nimble, but my UDR stomps over rougher terrain. Takes more beating too.
Baja Rey is cool But the UDR would still be my choice 100% it is the ONLY Trophy truck the REALLY DRIVES like a Trophy truck for better or worse (it even CRASHES like a real Trophy Truck XD) BUT it WILL NOT drive like a Slash, Senton, or and if the Rey family so only buy it if you want the Desert Truck style of driving and it will take skill to control it but in my opinion that is THE BEST PART! Back in the Day before the UDR I bough an Axial Yeti Score TT and even though I tweaked it a bunch to make it drive more like a Trophy truck, and it was NO WHERE NEAR the level of the UDR
Having owned the new Lodi, and taking it back being DOA, my vote is the traxxas!
Thanks for highlighting my comment
I’ll be getting that truck.
It won’t replace my UDR - but it sure looks awesome!
I'm more of a realistic desert truck enjoyer and really want the udr
Regarding the batteries, you can buy a 4s pack for the udr, and ride hight can be adjusted higher with more preload.
How you said the udr wasn’t made for big jumps my friend sent his like 1year old udr almost 30 feet and at least 8 ft high
The UDR was never the best lmao. Thing needs a couple hundred bucks into it just to stay running for more than 10 minutes.
Are you hard earn money Traxxas UDR is much more better and have more aftermarket parts for it and it's better truck
GREAT COMPARISON VIDEO 👌💯
Losi Pro moto...........3 months later.....still nothing. Someday it will show up.
I'm putting my money on the udr. It looks so much better and realistic, and come on, it's traxxas!
the BJ one was such a piece of sh....in terms of part quality, such a money dump, not a chance i every buy losi again
I prefer the UDR for stability but I like my SBR 2 for tracks and grass too 👍
Never on this live time a losi will beat the mighty UDR…I have them both score u wanna give me your “expert”opinion
0:01 omg thats me
and also when people going to sell them they would ask double then what they pay for and after market does not add value
I don’t get the comparison. Udr vs sbr is more comparable.
Wheelbase width difference? Yeah, that’s called wheel track.
But the UDR is a 1st gen. So that would explain why it is slower
I just wish the udr was actually more affordable smfh
Shouldnt it be compared to the super Baja Rey?
Wtf is point of comparing 2 diff scale trucks ... no point
Make a video about the super baja rey vs the UDR
Nice video! I am luck enough to own both because they are sweet!!! I would say your points on each vehicle are spot on.
Which one is better
1/10 scale vs pro scale is not a fair comparison at all.
yeah idk Mohave is king. arrma me need a 5th scale
I've had both. Traxxas suck
Traxxas buy ten billion miles,
I'm actually looking to buy a bajarey 2.0, but it'll take me quite some time to save 1058.90sgd for one, plus a charger and a 3s battery
Can you easily take the BR2 onto a clay short course track with jumps? Or will you damage it taking some bigger jumps?
I got upgrades for my udr. Just bought all of the common parts everyone seems to break. I havent legitimately broken anything yet on mine. Only issue ive had so far is the stock shock caps dont keep the diaphragms in place for sh*t
I think the mojave is the best😂
Arrma Mojave 6s is the best
My pops and I have both. BOTH are extremely fun and honestly just pick one and you will not be disappointed.
The difference being the superior design and quality of the differentials.
I've been bashing my UDR on 6S since 2018. I have never had to replace any gears in either of the 3 diffs.
My BR1.5 needs new diffs on a regular basis just running 3S. Losi really cheaped-out on the physical size and poor metallurgy.
I don't think rubber/flexible limit straps can't really be considered
limit straps.
I'm liking the losi better
Deff UDR it is more realistic with shock set up. Prob handle even better. Losi focused more into the rc motorcross
Missouri Parkway
UDR is way better to drive
I agree
I check spares availibility. Slow boats from China.
The UDR planetary in the rear axle is the MAIN reason for the absence of torque twist... I give sway bar some credit too...
UDR surfs through the dirt, it is amazing and looks so beautiful, the BR2 looks more like an overpowered truck wit some general upgrades. In this side traxxas really put out skmething unique and irrepetible
With the UDR, when you mentioned torque twist, you forgot about the planetary differentials that eliminate twist all together.
I think the UDR doesnt make as much "Sense" but i can truly say that there is no other RC machine out there that offers the experience that the UDR does.
i want to own a baja truck so bad and thought about these two trucks. But spending almost twice the price for the car and for batteries again, carrying nearly double the weight.... i went with the baja rey.
I just got the br2 and will never look back. Everything you list as wrong with it are the reasons it's so perfect.
You need to take into consideration some Luke don't need to buy the battery because I have one, the price for me will not increase and you can tune the suspension on BR2 for soft oil to have much better experience
Simple answer is the Super Baja Rey. Duh. 😊
I've wanted a udr for a long time. I bought a br2.0 I love it. Still might end up with a udr, but for now I'll keep rallying the f100
I love my udr even though it gives me problems but that’s kinda my fault anyways I just love the suspension and sounds and scale realism and the light kit is Awsome when I take it to the desert at midnight
Apple and oranges. 6s vs 3s is like comparing an F150 to a Ranger.
The UDR is far better 😂😂😂😂. The BR2 is a don’t ass clown compared to the UDR 😂
6:31 RIP 🪦 BR2😰