Watch Professor Take Essay Exam
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2020
- Watch Professor Beau Baez take an essay exam that he has never seen before. This is from a past bar exam and he uses techniques that should be used on any timed essay exam. So watch what he does then practice the technique on your own.
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Well, how did I do? What do you do differently when writing a timed essay?
Professor Baez, would you kindly do a video discussing dual degree programs, like the JD/MBA? Thanks!
Good idea. I will put this on my list of future topics. Though it may be awhile before I get to it. Thank you for the idea.
First, thanks for the video! I'm taking a torts final tomorrow and it's really helpful. I've also watched your videos in the past it's always proven a good decision. A few things to strengthen the negligence claim against the University.
1) The negligence claim against the University could be strengthened by using economic analysis to show that unreasonableness of the University. Showing that the ($) burden of fixing lock < ($) (magnitude of harm - Susan's injuries) x (probability of occurrence - someone entering an injuring a resident), is more objective way to measure reasonableness and pulls significant weight in American jurisprudence. It could further be strengthened eluding to a third standard for reasonableness, custom. It is a safe assumption that it is standard university practice to keep their dorms secure. Touching on each of these standards shows the Professor a more thorough understanding of the material.
2) The proximate cause/foreseeability argument is a bit conclusory, and could be strengthened by stating explicitly that University's (and nearly everyone) locks doors to prevent this exact type of thing from happening, and therefore Ann's attack on Susan, as a result of not securing the premises, was certainly foreseeable to the University.'
3) On proximate cause/foreseeability, respond to the counterargument that Ann was also a student so she could have gotten in through another door. State that because this was an obscure back door, Ann may very well have taken a different path upon entering through the normal doors, thus likely never encountering Susan. Or, conversely, that Ann may have been set on entering the library and would have found Susan regardless of the door she entered. Either way, that could be fleshed out a bit more.
Is this exam part of a bar exam like the NY or California bar exam
Yes, this was from the bar exam administered in over half of the States.
I'm glad I came across this. You never really get to see other people's exam answers, let alone the actual process of answering the question. So, I often place the top students and professors on a pedestal, imagining in my own head some kinda impassable or insurmountable gap between us. But, this made me realise I'm not actually that bad and that I can actually perform like this. Now, I'm not saying I would've answered the question as well as Prof Baez here--I probably would've only been able to do one of the lawsuits. I mean if he wasn't explaining and reading alloud what he was doing, he certainly would've went through it quicker, but then that wouldn't be nearly as helpful. Also, this reminded me of the importance of practising exam questions.
This is great feedback. I never thought about it from this perspective. Thanks for sharing.
“Some KINDA???”
Absolutely loved your process. Prewriting was terse and essay was comprehensive.
Thank you for making this video!!
Excellent video professor.
Excellent video.
This is the best. The absolute best.
Many thanks for sharing your experience. It is really helpful.
Really informative ... You don't seem rushed at all. Thank you.
I'm so happy I found your channel. I've been contemplating going to law school here in Houston, and I've been soaking up everything I can. This video has been top 3 in all video's I've watched. Thank you!!
Thanks, I appreciate the comment. Also, go talk to a few lawyers and ask them what their typical day looks like.
I just found this channel. I'm a sophomore undergraduate and I've always dreamt to go to law school. I'm currently binging this channel and loving every video. Thanks for taking the time to do this!
That’s great. Hope that my strategies also help you now.
Excellent, thank you
You are welcome!
Excellent video. This is one of your best.
Thanks!
Just amazing
So how did I do? Did the video help? Not my best exam, but it’s been a few decades since I took a timed exam.
@@Learnlawbetter I noticed very few factual mistakes. Like someone else pointed out, Ann is a graduate. Also, wouldn't the psych rely on Ann not having any violent records lead to the second part of the 2 part test failing? But I am a current hs senior going to college this fall, so I am sure my knowledge over law is limited.
It’s great that you are working on your critical thinking skills now. Hope you do great in college.
I am writing a take home exam now, your vidoes makes me less nervous and reduece the anxiety level.
Reduece???
@@rs5570 lol 😂
I love your video
Awesome Video! I will be starting Law School in September as a 1L (I am Canadian), your content is amazing and you deserve many more subscribers. Would you be able to recommend some books/resources to help me practice and get further accustomed to the IRAC or nested IRAC method? I have a lot of free time currently due to COVID and would like to practice as much as I can before my first semester starts.
Last year I taught eight students from Winnipeg in my Torts class-learned a lot about Canadians. I don’t have any thoughts on practice books.
Always wanted to see this. Thx.
Wow, throwing that eggshell plaintiff down in 30 sec was impressive.
Time management 😞 what a bummer. You know so much more but can’t put it all down.
Glad to do it. Longest video I’ve ever made-took forever to do editing work.
Can you do a practice Civ pro/ con law exam essay video?
Thanks so much! Iam in undergraduate law in western Europe but iam hoping moving to the US or UK in the future
That sounds great! And thank you for watching.
I would like to make a request and or a suggestion to the creator of this video. Please do a video in which you answer some practice questions that are multiple choice instead of an essay question like this one.
I needed this, thank you!
I just finished my third year and next year I will start my last year, what i need to know before that year?or books to read, or courses?
I appreciate your advice.
You finished your fourth year of college or of law school?
@@Learnlawbetter third year of law school, and I think i am not qualified yet to work!
We all get nervous before graduating. There are some things, like law practice, which you can’t learn from a book-you have to experience it. You might seek out a lawyer and ask to speak to them. Ask them what a typical day of practice looks like.
@@Learnlawbetter I will do that, Thank you.
I’m sorry, but this makes no sense. Not the the original question, nor the reply.
Hello Professor Baez! 2L here. This is an incredibly helpful video for understanding how to format an exam answer! For Susan's claim against the university, do you think the fact that the University security office was closed when Jim tried to get help further evidences their breach of duty? Though the incident occurred in the middle of the night, from my experience, campus security is usually meant to be available 24/7. If this is relevant, could that argument have been added to the answer within the allotted time? Or would that fall outside the scope of what is expected and the time be better allocated elsewhere? Thank you!
That’s outside the scope of what was needed. Keep in mind that there are some small universities out there, some of which may rely on police because they are in safe communities.
Ann is a graduate, so she would most likely not have a key card and therefore no other means to enter the dormitories/library. Overall very interesting video, I am definitely considering going to law school.
While I would say I passed, my answer wasn’t perfect. Several mistakes in my answer.
professor i saw the issue of the university as its duty to the invitee , the neg was the failure to inspect and either warn or repair
Keep in mind that it wasn't the defective lock that harmed Susan. Also, the duty rules you are mentioning refer to those who enter the property and don't live there. For example, a guest would be an invitee and here, the guy who entered without permission is a trespasser--that is irrelevant here. As a resident in the building, the university owed Susan a duty of reasonable case, which here was providing adequate security.
@@Learnlawbetter thank you
Mr. Baez will you do another video like this, but include the essay prompt either in your description or by download link? This will help passionate subscribers to your channel such as myself the option to view the essay prompt and complete it before going over it with you in the video.
All the best and thank you!
Here in America studying law is much better than in Serbia. We get book, and studying is only based on memorising. Exams are oral, you get mostly three headings from book, and you speak everything you know about that lesson. Mostly after you pass, you forget majority of things, and your practical law knowledge is pretty weak.
One of my law students went to college in Serbia. I was intrigued by your oral exams. He told me there was a professor who didn’t like him, so for the oral exam he kept asking him questions until he got something wrong, which justified him in awarding a lower grade.
@@Learnlawbetter yes, it is totally true, it happened to me, too, and the worse scenario, which is possible that you can easily fail exam.
Do you always recommend IRAC for the bar exam?
You need AN organization system. That could be IRAC, BRAC, CREAC, or any other similar system. They are all the same in that they force students to provide the key elements to a well written essay.
i am studying law in Germany and i‘m planning on doing my masters degree in law. If i wanna work in America, do i habe to go to law school again or is there any other way of working in that field?
Each of our 50 States regulates who can practice in their State. So in some States, it will be easy for you to practice in their State, in some you need to earn a US LLM, and in others you have to go to a US law school.
What grade do you think a grader would give this essay?
Here is a link to the video where I grade this exam: ruclips.net/video/Ffhd9qHeHek/видео.html
I'm just at 7th grade and I really want to become a laywer one day
Keep learning about the law. What you want now may not be what you want after college.
@@Learnlawbetter I'm literally bored in this quarantine and I saw a criminal law book one and I think I should read it
Please answer my question, I’m a first year student at college with Political science major, and I want to attend a law school after I get my bachelor degree, but I don’t if political science is good major for law school, at first I was interesting to study criminal justice but the SCC doesn't have this major and my counselor tell me to chose political science, English or sociology major to become a lawyer, I’m a first person in my family who want go college and I don’t have any information about major, can you please tell me which major is good for me to pass the LSAT test please help me. Thank you for all your helpful videos.
No major will help you pass the LSAT. Two years before you take the LSAT, begin preparing for it. Khan Academy has a free prep course. Though that is where to start, you need to keep taking practice exams. Then slowly, you will see improvement in your scores.
Learn Law Better Thank you so much for your help!
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I am 16 soon to be 17. I always have wanted to be a prosecuting attorney. If I were to go to law school, is criminal law included in the main three years of law school in different classes? or is it a separate thing?
Most law schools require a criminal law and criminal procedure course. Larger law schools will have some additional electives you can take in that area. But most don’t have additional electives as it’s not a large part of the overall practice of law for most lawyers. It’s okay to not take criminal law classes as you will learn what you need when you begin practicing law.
@@Learnlawbetter thanks for the reply! Your videos are really informative so keep them up!
You mixed up the names of the defendant Ann, and the plaintiff, Susan, several times. Would this lose you many marks?
I see you fixed a couple of them, but you still left the part where you said Psych would prevail against Ann, rather than Susan
Hey.. so being so to the point and not having any opinion(as is clearly demonstrated in the video).. is that something that is prevalent throughout law school only or is that something that should be practiced while a lawyer is appearing before a court? Is 'opinion' completely neglected throughout?
Please give you're detailed opinion if you've got the time. I'm very interested on the topic sir.
You don't every write "in my opinion" or "I believe." This is because those words are implicit in your argument. The reader will know which side you are supporting based on your analysis of the facts. On a law school exam, I tell my students to only discuss the other side when "reasonable minds can differ."
@@Learnlawbetter okay, so as a practicing lawyer, should you state a potential argument the other side may have and then argue against it within the same pleading? or is it better to just have a stance that completely supports ones client? I'm actually a law student and I tend to get too deep into the topic and start becoming a author (something you're video just made clear to me).. and I've realised when it comes down to time, I dont have enough towards the end of an exam
Thanks for taking your time answering sir, heavily appreciated... :)
@@s2youbitch It depends on the issue. In other words, it takes discernment on when to discuss the other side's position. I tell my students to find where the two sides will "clash," or where "reasonable minds can differ" on an issue. The court appreciates candor, and a lawyer that can recognize the issue with their case and discuss it cogently can appear more reasonable with the court. It doesn't mean you win, but it is refreshing when one side states the obvious and has a reasonable response.
Law students don't often see this, and they instead have a counter-argument for every point--that is a mistake. For example, suppose that the facts in a case state that the defendant's pet shark ate the plaintiff's hand. Seems silly to argue in the alternative on the question of harm: "but the plaintiff can argue that there was no harm because...." That's ridiculous. The key is recognizing the weak points in a case.
@@Learnlawbetter Okay.., lastly sir if you will, how does one exactly deal with the weak points in a particular case.. how is a defense attorney expected to deal with some arguments that any attorney should recognize and are obvious to any competent lawyer?? I am seriously very appreciative, as you're an professional in your own capacity and are not required to answer.. anyways I hope you do and I guarntee that your advice will not be neglected!! ❤
@@s2youbitch Experience. The longer you practice and try this, the better you become. When I practiced law, I read many briefs that were submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court. The best briefs always dealt with the weak part of their cases, while most did not. This is a high-level skill, but one worth learning. The key is to read briefs, and then recognize this ability. Then purposefully use the skill when writing.
why not assault, battery against Ann and eggshell skull doctrine? IID for the PTSD and negligence against the school? The school owes Susan a duty of care, so remaining elements apply. Jim is recklessness. No?
Hi, i'm in 8th grade and would love to be a lawyer. Would it help that my parents are notary publics? because of them i could potentially get internships, but also I generally just learn a lot from them. Also, would it help at all if I do mock trial in high school? thanks!
The great thing about internships and mock trials is that they help you see what the practice of law is like. That will help you figure out if it’s something you really want to do.
Hi Hannah, I got a local internship at the local district attorney doing filing (before it was cancelled due to COVID), and it gives you a good sense of what a prosecutor's office environment is like. I am currently enrolled as a dual credit student at a local community college taking paralegal studies. Try to volunteer for legal aid or other legal support groups if that is what you want to do. Also, Professor Baez's IRAC method really helped me write my essay on precedent for my Intro to Paralegal Studies class, so thank you for that professor. Work and study hard and search to see if there are any internships or volunteer opportunities in your area.
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No need to mention any caselaw for the Bar Exam?
That is correct. Only need the law, not the case names.
@@Learnlawbetter Thanks. Then it seems it is less difficult than other law exams.
Depends on the professor. I never require my students to use case names on their exams because I try to emulate bar exam conditions.
Hi! I hope you're well :) I'm in my last year of Highschool, and unfortunately I have zero clue of what I should study for. Before, I always thought I'd go into publishing. I have a passion for reading, and writing -- anything that requires me to use my imagination. But...I also have a huge passion for helping people. I want to be able to use my voice for those who are struggling to have theirs heard. I'm stuck between choosing Human Rights Lawyer, or someone who works in a publishing house. These two careers are polar opposites. Do you have any advice for me please?
Talk to people in both industries and find out what they actually do. Ask to shadow someone for a day. You may have an impression of what they do that can be completely wrong. But you have time, so keep exploring.
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If it takes a LICENSED lawyer the FULL 30 minutes to barely squeak out the answer, how can the Bar Examiners ever expect that those barely out of law school could possibly get this done in time? Something is quite wrong with this system.
Few get perfect scores, but perfection isn’t needed on the bar exam. Most people pass the bar exam.
@@Learnlawbetter Uhm, Hello? "most people pass the bar exam"??? NO they don't. Statistics from CA Bar itself show that most Do NOT pass the bar, something like 63% FAIL. And then the retakers have LESS of a chance of passing (which doesn't really make sense). But anyhow, was just commenting that if you, a LICENSED attorney struggled to the end, then how would the examiners every think us newbies could get it done in that time? And the answer is most DON'T.
For 2017 graduates, 89.5% passed by 2019. California does have lower rates. Also in California, depends on where you graduated from. Keep in mind that California still allows apprenticeship, where some non-law school graduates can sit for the bar exam.
@@Learnlawbetter "California Bar Exam Pass Rates Drop to a Historic Low 26.8%" 2020 headline.
"The results of the February 2020 California Bar Exam are in, and to say they aren’t pretty would be an understatement. The state bar has hit a historic low with 1,128 people (26.8 percent of applicants) passing the General Bar Exam, fewer than 3 in 10 test-takers posted a passing score.
Just 26.8% of the 4,205 test takers who completed the exam passed, which mark the lowest pass rate recorded in California since 1951, the oldest statistics provided by the bar."
This is from just one quick search. So most do NOT pass the bar. The rates of pass go DOWN for repeaters.
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Dear Professor Baez, could you please check your e-mail? I would appreciate your advise 🙏 thank you!
I wonder whether the legal profession is setting itself up for a competency crisis. I am a law student in my final year of law school but I come from a STEM profession. In my law school studies, I have noticed and studies have shown that bar exam and professors reward the number of words you type on a page in a limited time quite high. Also, canned templated essays are rewarded quite highly. As a real life example, my company hired a law firm in CA and the young attorney was amazingly fast typist but eventually committed malpractice. In fact, the next young lawyer hired by the ins and also a fast typist had to be replaced by an older and not so fast typist but competent attorney. I am worried about my legal profession's ability deliver competent attorneys that the public can have faith in.
I understand it is 30 min, but this test would have failed since IRAC WAS NOT FOLLOWED. No definition of negligence, special duty vs. general duty. It was very conclusive and reciting the same facts without applying the elements of negligence. Missing headings, which I believe the graders take into account to facilitate grading.
I'm not trying to be difficult, but the graders would fail this exam.
Time is a consideration in assigning grades. A take home assignment will be graded more strictly than a 30 minute closed-book exam. I try to mimic bar exam questions and conditions to help get my students ready for the bar exam.
@Learnlawbetter thank you for your response. I just took for the first time, on June 27, the FYLSE and found out recently that I failed, and even though I put a lot of information on the essays, I failed worst of what I had anticipated. It seems the content was not so much at issue, but the IRAC format and how you apply the elements to the facts seems to be huge to the graders no matter how short or redundant the application of the facts to the elements may be.
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