FUEL IN OIL | 2019+ FORD RANGER UPDATE (Blackstone Oil Analysis Results)
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2021
- Hey everyone, back with a quick update on my 2020 Ford Ranger's fuel in oil problem. Took the truck to the dealership and they changed the oil and told me to come back after 3000 miles so they could do an oil consumption test. However, after 500 miles, my oil level is rising again.
I also got my Blackstone results back and it showed to have 3% dilution.
Hope this can get sorted out soon! I'll keep y'all posted.
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Thanks for the update.
Cool truck, I love my 2020 Ranger XLT. I've got the same issue though, fuel is indeed in my oil. Thank you for posting your videos. I just sent off my oil analysis and will go to dealer when I get the results. I was gonna get a Tacoma, kind of regretting my decision to take a chance on the Ranger. Its an awesome truck, but they should've just put a normal V6 without turbo. Or a diesel would've been fine. It's like they said "Hey we're bringing back the Ranger, what engine should we put in it? ... We got all these left over engines for the Focus RS; lets slap those things into it".
Man I’d love to have a small diesel in this truck. Absolutely love this truck and def don’t want to get rid of it but if they can’t get it sorted out then I may have to parts ways.
Thanks for the video update. If anyone suggests its the oil catch can that incorrect. I have a 2020 Ford Ranger 2wd, completely stock and have the same problem. Per the manual it states the vehicle should be on a level surface and wait 15 minutes. I checked it twice. My dipstick matches yours. This is before my truck hit 5k miles. Its first oil change. I have scheduled an appointment with the dealership in November. $159 for a diagnosis fee bites though.
I'm having the same issue with mine. I'm at 17k miles and have had a catch can the whole time. I have had more fuel than oil in it every time I've emptied it. I just called my service manager at my dealership today. He's a friend of mine so hopefully we can get this figured out.
My 2021 always had oil near the air intake. I would clean it off but when I would drive it check again there would be oil residue. I had mine in the shop 8 times in less than 4 months for a multitude of repairs(alignment 3 times,wipers stopped working,tailgate kept randomly falling off)finally just traded it in for the new frontier. Fun to drive, but too many issues.
Thanks for the info. I'm consistently smelling oil at idle or even after I shut the truck off after a drive cycle. Thoughts?
Hey have the same truck, is this something you have heard is common in the Ranger or is it just an issue with yours? Owned mine a month and a week and put 5100km on it with no issues.
Jeez! I thought i'd look around for what rear shocks people used to stop the bouncing around and came upon this video. I'm freaked, my 2020 has 3600 miles and now this has me worried.
Gonna take mine in tomorrow cause I have the same issue and my catch can ain't catching a lot anymore 😬
I'm having a similar issue. Do you remove your catch can before taking to the dealership?
Isn’t this the same engine in the new Bronco? Wonder if they’ll have the same issues as well...
I'm having this exact issue currently...I noticed my ranger has been sluggish the last few hundred miles...so at 5k miles I checked the oil....the oil reals of gas and the level is super high..
Had a 2017 Honda CR-V that did the same thing. Honda said 'normal'; we traded it off. Irritating as it is, it is not a problem isolated to Ford's 2.3 EcoBoost. Very well documented amongst Ford's V-6 EcoBoosts, and other manufacturers as well, like Honda.
High pressure fuel pump leak?
I feel like vent tubes and one way breathers and valves are backwards. Got compression tests?
You know what, what about turbo blow off valves? Maybe when you let off the gas and coast the pressure is not bleeding off and a positive pressure is maintained in the manifold?
Try that, I have a feeling that a positive pressure is maintained somewhere but why. I’d trace route that, maybe hour blow off valve isn’t working or something is backwards.
my oil level is rising too. I don't have a catch can and I am 1 inch over the top hole after driving and 1/2 inch over when it sits after a short/long drive. I drive a stock xl stx model.
I have the same truck any updates?
Is truck running ok? Could be bad injector leaking into cylinder
Took my 2020 to the dealer last week with 2200 miles on it with the same issue. Oil was 1/4 above max fill line and smelled like gas. They replaced the high pressure fuel pump and some tube. Anyway 1000 miles later no issues. Oil level has not increased.
Good ! Dealer still has mine. They were waiting on a gasket to finish. I didn’t ask what they did , been sick so I haven’t been driving anyway
@@HarlesGarage Any update?
@@HarlesGarage patiently waiting for response 😂 just got mine end of Jan. Need to smell my oil
Parts are still on back order, gonna be a while
@@HarlesGarage well looks like mine is going back. Oil level is a 1/4” above max fill and oil is VERY runny. Starts flowing off of stick almost immediately.
I do have a question for you, Are you driving more city or highway miles? What brand of oil are you using? My truck is mostly highway and towing a 2900 pound trailer. I also do some light 4 wheel trail driving, I have been checking this issue on mine ever since you posted the first video. Still no fuel smell and catch can only a little more that 1/4 full. I have been collecting all the fluid and recording the mileage. Currently at 3700 miles.
Highway miles - about 61 miles a day. I was using Amsoil , I'm sure the dealer put in Motorcraft.
Thanks for the info. Hope you can get this issue resolved. Please keep updating on this.
Have the same issue with a 2020 Explorer w/2.3
Damn just picked up a 2020 fx4 myself last week and this has me scared. Hope Ford can sort it out
Just pick up mine today.... lets see
Any updates on this?
My dealer took my Ranger today for warranty work on this issue. First, he said he’s replacing the HPFP. If that doesn’t resolve the issue, he said he’ll go with replacing the PCV. If that doesn’t work… well he said it’s a guessing game at that point.
Just checked my oil and it reeks of gas. Oil is dark and only 3,000 miles since my last service. Oil level is higher than full and when I took it to the dealership the service advisor told me that I was right. I have to wait until Feb 2nd to take it in cause ford is "slammed" whatever the hell that means. My truck could be dying!!!
Any new updates? I’m taking mine to the dealer this week. Wondering what they did on your truck so I can have a bit more to speak on.
My dealership is replacing my injectors. Just waiting on some o-rings to finish. Hopefully I’ll have the truck back soon
@@HarlesGarage hopefully that solves the problem. Let us know if it doesn’t.
No engine lights?
Yeah it seems like no one has found out a suspected problem. I'd love if someone make a bench to pressure test the pump and injectors. I smell fuel in my oil but haven't checked the level on flat ground. I have just been changing the oil early until someone finds out the cause so I can repair it. But considering this happens on engines with low km and this doesn't happen with Mustangs or the focus rs, it's likely the pump or injectors for sure. I'm surprised ford hasn't looked into it and made a tsb yet..
Well I’m trying my best to spread the word , hopefully Ford will figure it out and at least gets TSB. I get that direct injection will produce blow by , but it’s shouldn’t be this bad. I love this truck and don’t want to get rid of it but if there isn’t a fix , I don’t see myself with it for longer.
Im in the same boat, been replacing my oil at least every 500 miles (Only got 1500 Miles on my truck). Lucky I saw this guys posts after I bought it, otherwise I would've waited till 5000 Miles, and wouldn't have thought to smell my oil. I hope they find this issue soon, otherwise per my states lemon law I am gonna return this dam thing.
@@travislindholm2141 I've replaced my oil every 6000km (3700mi) and haven't been too worried yet. 500mi might be a bit early. That would be like me replacing my oil twice a month.
@@HarlesGarage if it's similar to Honda then it's a tuning issue. I will be getting a tune after warranty no matter if it's a fixed issue or not. If there is an update, I'll get it. If not then I will tune it and hopefully that will fix the issue
Was it causing white smoke from exhaust every time you start it up ?
No, I haven’t noticed any white smoke.
Ecoboosts get some very high exhaust gas temperatures, so when ever they come to a stop and sit for a while alot of condensation will build in the exhaust. I've seen alot of white coming from my tail pipe in cooler months.
Very Scary. I just picked up my new Lariet a week ago. I hope a solution comes about soon. I've yet to look at my oil level. But will do so 1st thing tomorrow morning. Is this unique to the 2020? If not, what took so long for this to be discovered, say by 2019 owners? Will a catch can help reduce the fuel in the oil volume?
So how was your results? Hopefully you are not experiencing the same problem.
I dont think catch can is required to use on this engine.
how many miles was on the oil you sent to blackstone ??
About 3K miles
@@HarlesGarage
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They made it like that to make you go crazy.
How many miles was on that oil sample with 3%?
3000 miles
Do you idle alot? Direct injection will fuel wash quite a bit at idle. I commented on your last video with my lab results at 2.0, which is at the threshold of a possible issue, but that was after 7500 miles. I drove alot of highway and towed a boat atleast 2000 of those miles. I'm going to send a sample to Amsoil this go around for an actual fuel dilution test.
Any news / update?
Yep, the injectors are bad. Parts are on back order so truck is still at the dealership
There is nothing to worry about this is common with turbo cars long as you change your oil regularly you are fine.
I ran 10k miles on my oil in my 3.5 eco boost with 128k miles. Sent the oil to black stone and my fuel was 0.5% which is fine for such a long interval. NO, oil in fuel is NOT normal. If the oil level is rising that much due to fuel there is a major problem.
What’s the cause? High pressure fuel pump?
@@tylerweaver0201 no, hpfp should not be open to the oil. Driven by the cam. Probably caused by fuel making it past the rings into the oil. Using new coated rings like moly coated rings instead of cast iron which don’t “break in” like the old cast rings, as well as lined cylinder sleeves make for slippery surfaces is my guess. We’ll have to wait and see exactly what it is. Honda had a hell of a time with this in their new 1.5 turbo motor that was in the 2017+ CR-V and 2016+ Civic.
Change your oil often. Get the fuel out. Oil is cheap. Don’t go the full interval. 5k miles is best.
Get a catch can and drain it every thousand miles. Mine collects with what I can best describe as a water/fuel mixture. Definitely has a gasoline smell.
I have a catch can. Had one for at least 10,000 miles. Truck is still at the dealership. My injectors are bad.
@@HarlesGarage Thanks for the heads up I'll. Mine has 3,300 miles on it and I suspect a fuel delivery problem as well.
What catch can brand did you get? I assume it was for the passager side?
I think I will spend the money and buy a Tacoma.
Normal operation.
I think part of the Completely HORRIBLE gas mileage that these things get is the cap less gas tanks. No gas cap I think it's seeping. If you left any tank open all the time even a little it evaporates, and I think that is exactly what is happening on mine. Mileage just gets worse and worse, I have only put 2000 miles on mine and I'm getting rid of it. Great truck, Except for the gas mileage. MPG is the worst I have ever had on any vehicle.
Now I’m scared of buying a ranger
Same here.
haha... i only found out about this issue ppl are having a month after purchasing mine. Kind of upset, going to check my oil tomorrow morning to see if it smells like gas. if i do end up having this problem will 100% be my last ford, it's also my first ford ever purchased. Honestly, Chevy has the transmission problems, and ford now has this gas in oil problem? No wonder ppl continue to buy Toyota.
@@johnwren3965 let us know how it goes. If either one of you have the issue, I am deciding on a Tacoma or Frontier lol.
@@trubz2096 ya just checked this morning, smells like gasoline.
@@johnwren3965 Sorry to hear. Guess I wont be getting a Ranger anymore. That blows.
I think I would asked the dealership for a new truck. they can take this one back and figure it out. Not give you the run around on their crappy product you paid top dollar for. If they wont take it back and replace it, then sue them.
Mine and several others were WAY worse than that. Like drive it 50 miles and it was already an inch over the hole, bad. If you do a lot of in town driving and idling I'd almost argue that yours is just a normal result of direct injection, and there isn't really anything wrong. Plus Blackstone isn't the way to go for fuel dilution. They are great for finding contaminants in oil, but only a few companies actually measure the fuel dilution, including amsoil. Blackstone just estimates it based on other factors. I bet you take that truck on a 50 mile run at highway speeds then park it, your oil level will go right where it was. Cold weather doesn't help either. All just my 2 cents. I hope it is resolved for you, but sadly it is one of many downsides of DI. Ford does much better with DI than other brands like GM, and at least it doesn't lead to catastrophic engine failure in our vehicles.
"a normal result of direct injection"??? lmfao thats hilarious. So you just keep filling that crank case and call it good? Where do you think all that fuel is going over time. There shouldn't be that much fuel in the crankcase under any length of trips or conditions...
@@seanm3243 what I mean by that is that virtually all DI vehicles exhibit higher than normal fuel dilution in the oil by the very nature of their design. All of that extra pressure of the spray inside the cylinder walls naturally forces more fuel past the piston rings than a non DI engine. This is compounded by the extra pressure inside the cylinder caused by forced induction (turbocharging). You asked where all that fuel goes, well it goes into the crankcase, where normally the oil gets hot enough to evaporate the fuel, which then exits the crankcase via the PCV system. During short trips the oil doesn't get hot enough to do this, so the fuel builds up and raises the level of the crankcase. I think a major part of the problem for the Ranger is that it's robust cooling system makes it hard for the oil to get hot. Another problem that will make fuel dilution really bad is carbon buildup on the injection tips. Because the injector tip is the coolest thing in the cylinder by far, carbon likes to form on it. Eventually this reduces the injector's ability to atomize the fuel, which will cause some fuel to spray in liquid form, not burn, and wash down the cylinder wall past the piston rings. That is where using a good fuel injector cleaner every now and then can really help. I don't know why you mentioned "keep adding to the crankcase" because it's not like you are losing oil, so you might have to clarify what you meant.
Bottom line, DI has some advantages I suppose, but overall it's a dumb technology widely adopted to appease federal fuel economy standards. That is what I mean by "normal" function of direct injection.
@@Wade-lk4yo Fair enough. As far as "adding to the crankcase" i mean the fuel that doesn't burn off. Can't be healthy for a case to be overfilled and ran all the time. I just think that in the world we are in today a vehicle should be able to handle any and all driving conditions. Most of my driving is to and from work and to the store etc all of which are within 15 minutes. Im sure this is the case for a ton of people. Crazy... On another note: What do you use to keep your system clean? I use seafoam on occasion but always open to get ideas and opinions from others.
@@seanm3243 Gotcha, yeah I think it's unfortunate. In the Ranger's case I think that it is bad because the cooling system is designed well to be able to keep everything cool while towing, so in cold weather, no load, short trips, the oil just doesn't get warm enough fast enough to burn off the gas as quickly as it comes in. That's just my theory though. You can look up the Honda CRV fuel dilution problem and that's pretty much the case for them. It's far more widespread in those though than with the Ranger. I think a solution could be covering part of your radiator or oil cooler during cold months. But that's just kind of ridiculous that you would have to do that. As for cleaning I use Lucas upper cylinder lubricant and injector cleaner. Seems to work well, but the tech who fixed my severe fuel dilution problem recommended a specific product I can't remember right now.
I have noticed during really cold weeks here in Illinois the oil has climbed a little bit as seen in this video, but during warmer weeks it goes back down. In a weird sort of way I don't think that's too bad, because in cold weather the oil just automatically becomes less viscous due to the fuel, which helps the oil reach the top of the engine faster in a cold start... Then in warm weather it goes back to normal. I'm definitely stretching to say it's even kind of a good thing, because it's not, but just trying to see the silver lining haha.
You'd be hard pressed to find a new vehicle other than Ford or Ram HD trucks that don't use DI. I don't think the Tundra does either, but I could be wrong. It's just the way of the future, for now...
lol trying to find a problem that doesn't really exist
Oil delusion is happening because of direct fuel injection. Very hi pressure. And a turbo. Ford has a class action suite against them for it.
Honda also has the same problem
Can you link that info here? I'd like to take a look at it. Can't find anything online besides MPG or coolant issues. Nothing relating to fuel in my oil like I have.
There is a new oil out for direct port fuel injected engines that may help A 0-W16. The A type is retro to 0W20 oil
Mitchell Boyd thanks I’ll ask my dealership about this
Another thing it could be is your injectors are leaking into the cylinders.
that's bullshit
In EU have a 2.0 bi turbo this is really piece of junk . Its ford still making car truck or its only toys.? Mijn ford is no money workshop ranger raptor plastic piece of junk .