Coleman Hughes: The Empirical Problems with Systemic Racism

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    What is the difference between individual, institutional, and systemic racism? What are the empirical problems with systemic racism?
    Coleman Cruz Hughes writes on the topic of race for Quillette and the New York Times. Despite still being an undergraduate, studying philosophy at Colombia University, his articles have sparked polarised reactions, leading to a meteoric rise in profile over the last couple of years.
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  • @buttonbrite6198
    @buttonbrite6198 3 года назад +590

    I became against affirmative action when I was married to a guy who was half Japanese. I was a married pregnant teenager. We moved to Houston to look for work. He was hired by a company, only to be let go 3 days later when they realised he wasn't Hispanic. Their only quotas were for blacks and Hispanics. A young man with a wife about to give birth any day was let go because the man could not tick the "correct" ethnic box. How could I not hate it? Individual experiences are limitless.

    • @pmh1nic
      @pmh1nic 3 года назад +41

      I was having a conversation with someone on the issue of systematic racism and they brought up the number of charges against companies for not hitting their quota of minorities. They totally ignored the fact that quotas are the definition of racism.

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 3 года назад +9

      @@pmh1nic Don't worry, California is fighting to make it legal to discriminate based on race: ballotpedia.org/California_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020)
      Wait, if there's systemic racism that only hires white men, why would they want to make it legal to discriminate based on sex and race....?

    • @Yetizod1
      @Yetizod1 3 года назад +4

      @@johnbuscher A bill passed by actual majority of the people, not by the legislature. And they are going to overturn it. Sickening. They should have to put that to a vote on the ballot. Another amendment.

    • @eclipsewrecker
      @eclipsewrecker 3 года назад +5

      Robbie Thornton antidotal evidence is faulty and used by all sides erroneously.

    • @tomlaureys1734
      @tomlaureys1734 3 года назад +25

      @@eclipsewrecker I think you missed her point. It's just anecdotal evidence to the rest of us but it's a real life problem for people like her who are the victims of it. We need to have some compassion for those who are hurt by it.

  • @davidowen74
    @davidowen74 3 года назад +559

    Coleman Hughes needs to be on Joe Rogan and every media outlet possible to counter the mass hysteria permeating the west.

    • @Icynova
      @Icynova 3 года назад +9

      Mark Johhson Coleman didn't do a debate per se, but he did testify on the hearing for the Reparations bill and did very well.

    • @frankfeldman6657
      @frankfeldman6657 3 года назад +11

      And to counter that horrid con artist, Candace Owens.

    • @lachypearson6156
      @lachypearson6156 3 года назад +4

      I wanna see Coleman in an actual debate or QnA kinda thing, that’d be great. Joe Rogan would probably just agree with him😂

    • @darlenegriffith6186
      @darlenegriffith6186 3 года назад

      @Mark Johhson Yes, it is in an environment where debate (opposing views) exists that a person's intellectual prowess and critical thinking skills are put to the test.

    • @Bradley_Lute
      @Bradley_Lute 3 года назад +2

      He would be cancelled and labeled an uncle tom right away. He is too reasonable.

  • @sanmigueltv
    @sanmigueltv 3 года назад +127

    I could listen to Coleman all day. His intelligence is far beyond his years.

    • @moe.s6638
      @moe.s6638 3 года назад +2

      Can't help comparing his speaking style to Sam Harris. Cautious, calculated and strategic choice of words to getting valid points across.

    • @turboretard9555
      @turboretard9555 3 года назад +1

      @@moe.s6638 Yes, especially on his podcast.

    • @pdloder
      @pdloder 3 года назад +2

      @@moe.s6638 and non-inflammatory.

    • @manoman0
      @manoman0 3 года назад

      So intelligent yet filled with hate.

    • @cheesus8594
      @cheesus8594 2 года назад +5

      @@manoman0 you’re projecting

  • @billmelater6470
    @billmelater6470 3 года назад +252

    In popular discourse, racism is largely an impossible topic to discuss (which I think was the plan). We are at the point where before any discussion may be had, we must first agree on the definition of racism. If you are discussing the topic using the "power plus prejudice" definition, then it is utterly fruitless to pursue that discussion if you cannot come to an agreement on that very central and very important point. You may as well argue the laws of gravity with someone while they define the word "gravity" to mean, "a ham sandwich".

    • @Capt_Curious
      @Capt_Curious 3 года назад +12

      Divided States of America, here we come....a ham sandwich sounds good right now.

    • @damo5701
      @damo5701 3 года назад +10

      It's not just racism, sexism homophobia bigotry etc are all used as part of the identity politics weaponized ideology to divide and control and to enable an agenda.

    • @andreas956
      @andreas956 3 года назад +14

      And to make it even more complexed, Merriam webster dictionary will change their definition of racism after being harassed by a woman for years regarding this(the woman mentioned that people used the existing definition against her in arguments and she won't have it anymore). The future definition will include that systematic racism can only happen towards a minority, e.g. black people in american can not be racists. Now isn't that convenient.

    • @CWRardin
      @CWRardin 3 года назад +7

      That definition was carefully constructed to be used as a political weapon, making anyone who uses it immune to criticism.

    • @debblouin
      @debblouin 3 года назад +8

      @@andreas956 What is a minority? If a white person lives in a predominantly black city with black leadership, black police chief, etc., wouldn't the minority status and power status change?

  • @x838nwy
    @x838nwy 3 года назад +164

    The only thing I don't like about Coleman is that he's a billion times more articulate than I could ever hope to be. An awesome mind.

    • @Funknwanker
      @Funknwanker 3 года назад +1

      That is why I like him and I don’t think it is dislike it is just a certain level of jealousy, which is fine as long as you do not use that to act against someone.

    • @alexlopez4
      @alexlopez4 3 года назад +7

      Crazy Manwich I think you missed the joke there

    • @over-educated-sp
      @over-educated-sp 3 года назад +1

      Totally!

    • @kidxclusive
      @kidxclusive 3 года назад

      Crazy Manwich the initial comment went totally over your head I think 😂

    • @fsrsaa
      @fsrsaa 3 года назад

      Indeed

  • @kevenguimaraes
    @kevenguimaraes 3 года назад +90

    Man Coleman really does remind me of Sam Harris with his calm, collected manner of speaking and absolute mastery of facts and logic. Love it! Need more like them out there!

    • @cawj7896
      @cawj7896 3 года назад +3

      There would be if we were allowed to cultivate free expression in the so-called Black community. Unfortunately, we are taught at an early age to conform and submit to the doctrine of bitterness and victimization. Most do, because the ones that don't are ostracized and ridiculed like Mr. Hughes described. It's a hard, lonely road to travel. Especially for those Black folks that were always conservative.
      That's why I'm glad Biden said "you ain't Black" if you choose Trump over him, because he finally admitted what the so-called Black Intelligencia has been saying for years but didn't want out there, lest people start thinking THEY are racists themselves.

    • @bentline
      @bentline 3 года назад +3

      Reminds me of Thomas Sowell.

    • @TheTektronik
      @TheTektronik 3 года назад +1

      Reminds me of Walter Williams

    • @diatribeeverything
      @diatribeeverything 3 года назад +3

      Sam is ok, but he has really bad TDS. He has made his own versions of elitist "deplorables" comments. He is so blinded by his bias that I've lost respect for him.

    • @kevenguimaraes
      @kevenguimaraes 3 года назад

      sicsempertyrannis7 oh I’ve seen it already. He’s brilliant and incisive as always. Scary stuff though.

  • @Lejmej
    @Lejmej 3 года назад +108

    I just fell in love with this man... And I’m confused because I was called racist a couple of days ago.... By a person who tried to explain systemic racism to me....

    • @Richard-ul8yz
      @Richard-ul8yz 3 года назад +1

      Even though i am opposed to the whole woke subversive movement, I can see how they interpret the "system" as being racist. It doesn't even require a belief in biological equality. Pursuing agendas to achieve equal outcomes is a fundamental value assessment that i don't agree with; that equality of socioeconomic status is more important than freedom.

    • @FtwNil
      @FtwNil 3 года назад +9

      The one thing they can never deny is that the left controls all forms of media, music, movies, tv, as well as academics and public schools, silicon valley and Hollywood...
      If they control it all, who are you fighting when they are the system and they are who you support?

    • @Richard-ul8yz
      @Richard-ul8yz 3 года назад +2

      @@FtwNil If you want the truth as i see it, they are fighting against national identity. They have to destroy any affection for American traditions, so people will be willing to give them up and join the global new world order.

    • @FtwNil
      @FtwNil 3 года назад

      @@Richard-ul8yz
      I'm not talking about the ultimate goal, which you are correct, I mean just the average Democrat voter. The majority of "anarchist's" don't vote, but even the ones that do vote are "against the system", my point is that the DNC controls it all, so who are they fighting against when they vote for the people that enact the policies that effect them the most while their representatives just blame all their failures on everyone and everything else besides the people that have been in office for, up to, 40 years.

    • @FtwNil
      @FtwNil 3 года назад

      Hell even rich DNC voters parrot the same narrative. Even before they started their great censorship crusade.

  • @PockASqueeno
    @PockASqueeno 3 года назад +196

    My biggest problem with the idea with “systemic racism” is “part of the system” is that nobody ever specifies what this so-called “system” even is. What is “the system?” Your digestive system? The solar system? Your computer’s operating system? Just calling it “the system” is so vague and unhelpful.

    • @nero2814
      @nero2814 3 года назад +11

      i think they mean systems like school, post office, law enforcement agencies, private bodies and all.

    • @biggusriggus7150
      @biggusriggus7150 3 года назад +40

      Sounds like the racism version of the female wage gap.

    • @arctic3032
      @arctic3032 3 года назад +22

      It's a useful place to place the problem, if the place is undefinable, you can call anything racism.

    • @biggusriggus7150
      @biggusriggus7150 3 года назад +11

      @Rob M Like Peter Thiel said a long time ago; "If you ask about racism that's evidence of racism. If you don't ask about racism, that's evidence that you're not interested and that you're racist." ruclips.net/video/qTPOBEdc7OI/видео.html

    • @ollimustonen
      @ollimustonen 3 года назад +5

      Yep. Every time I hear someone saying systemic racism all I can think of "systemic systems of structural institutions". Some people are probably familiar with that concept...

  • @kirkpatticalma7911
    @kirkpatticalma7911 3 года назад +10

    When listening to this young man I am reminded of what Jordan Peterson said: Listen to everyone, they may have something to teach you. He is half my age, but I've learned soooo much from him.

    • @SJ-ku7hk
      @SJ-ku7hk Месяц назад

      What have you learned that you didn't know before?

  • @MindandQiR1
    @MindandQiR1 3 года назад +44

    "The whole idea of race pride and race guilt is corrupt to begin with."

    • @kerringtonshields3909
      @kerringtonshields3909 3 года назад +8

      penguins inadiorama No, he was talking about race... which is exactly what he said. Being proud of or feeling guilty for having a certain set of genetics is ignorant. By the way, Hughes didn’t say “except for white people”, so stop trying to sow strife and division.

    • @needmoreguwop9381
      @needmoreguwop9381 3 года назад

      penguins inadiorama all you’re doing is sitting in these comments, upset that you can’t say things that are borderline racist in your real life without backlash. If you want people to take you seriously, take the history and emotion seriously and trust me you will be heard.

    • @needmoreguwop9381
      @needmoreguwop9381 3 года назад +1

      penguins inadiorama please elaborate, to say there is no such thing as racism is wild. Racism is still BIG business, if you can’t see how much it’s still in effect maybe you’re brain dead one and your children can see it for what it really is. Sure, there’s people that play victim cards in every culture but that doesn’t take away from the fact it PAYS to slow down the progression of marginalised groups of people. Cointelpro wasn’t long ago, the 13th amendment is still in place, America has an entire system built around race bias and that isn’t changing, I’m sorry your race is now persecuted for the crimes of others but until you show the same passion AGAINST racism, you are still apart of the problem...a war is coming.

    • @kerringtonshields3909
      @kerringtonshields3909 3 года назад

      @penguins inadiorama You lie.

    • @kerringtonshields3909
      @kerringtonshields3909 3 года назад

      @@needmoreguwop9381 This penguins inadiorama guy is just trying to spur racial unrest. He will lie and mislead as much as he can in order to achieve his goal. I'm not giving him any more of my time.

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 3 года назад +113

    The devil used to be in the details. He's now moved into broad generalizations.

  • @lennypearl
    @lennypearl 3 года назад +61

    So the concept of "systematic racism" is akin to that of the "wage gap", that the numbers are of course unequal if you don't factor in variables

    • @tombombadil1351
      @tombombadil1351 3 года назад

      i.imgur.com/hArXvan.png

    • @rbarnes4076
      @rbarnes4076 3 года назад +7

      @Lenny Pearl
      Not only is what you said true, but it is true of ALL subjects. You generally can't draw useful conclusions with highly aggregated data. It is just not useful to draw conclusions about 'all blacks' or 'all whites' or 'all asians' or 'all women' or 'all men'. Until you factor in all the variations, there just isn't any useful data.
      Even then.. those types of statistics don't get to the individual experiences of folks.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero 3 года назад +3

      Even less so. A wage gap exists, but because of differences of preferences of men and women and the way they handle things. Take of all of that away and not much is left that can't be explained by perfectly logical, fair reasons. But systemic racism against African-Americans is just something with no evidence of even existing.

    • @Mason-kd7xk
      @Mason-kd7xk 2 года назад

      @@thenonexistinghero have you never heard of Jim Crow or Redlining policies? I think that’s some pretty damn good evidence 🤔

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero 2 года назад +1

      @@Mason-kd7xk That's not evidence at all. Systemic racism is about the whole system being racist by design. Some racist policies from an era when racism was normal do not make the whole modern system racist.

  • @bloomj31
    @bloomj31 3 года назад +4

    He is able to articulate these issues in a way that brings true clarity to me. Coleman Hughes is helping us save ourselves from ourselves.

  • @4dmind
    @4dmind 3 года назад +15

    I'm a new fan of Mr. Hughes. It's vital to find intellectuals with the courage to speak rationally - especially in the current cultural topology.

  • @63rambler66
    @63rambler66 3 года назад +52

    I have said over and over: empiricism is the only thing that can possibly unite us. Thanks for this!

    • @nsyln
      @nsyln 3 года назад

      Empiricism will wipe away history? Would be the first time in history where Mathematics altered history.

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool 3 года назад +3

      Empiricism always wins - eventually. In the meantime civilizations have collapsed, libraries burnt and knowledge lost forever.

    • @nsyln
      @nsyln 3 года назад

      @@gracefool numbers without history are meaningless. Tell me the story of one (1) alone.

    • @63rambler66
      @63rambler66 3 года назад +4

      @@nsyln No. The only hope for some sort of progress between two divided parties is to have a system or tools that might enable some agreement as to what happened, what is happening, and what one would like to see happen, and when that goal is reached - having some way to determine when the remedies have worked. In this case it means having thorough data, good data, evaluating it correctly and consistently. And agreement as to how to do it all.

    • @Zdeno33
      @Zdeno33 3 года назад

      @@nsyln Why is history relevant?

  • @jaycarr590
    @jaycarr590 3 года назад +154

    Guilt equals votes and it’s that simple

    • @aronlinde1723
      @aronlinde1723 3 года назад +6

      It's a vote economy for power. A entrepreneur will seek the greatest profit for the least effort. That makes sense to all of us.
      So if you are a politician or power broker you would be stupid to pass up the easy votes/power gained from playing the fear/hate market.
      It is just that currently race and economic class is the cheapest power to purchase for the left. The cheapest power for the right currently is fear of loss.
      Once you see that the game makes more sense. Sadly everything has a price and while the initial purchase of something is cheap, the long term cost is obscured but still has to be paid.

    • @alexandercamlin8889
      @alexandercamlin8889 3 года назад

      Any time anyone argues "it's that simple", it is because they are. Don't confuse lack of nuance for insight.

    • @caseybrown4360
      @caseybrown4360 3 года назад +2

      @Alexander Camlin It’s called race hustling and it is that simple. Just because you’ve decided that you might know more than someone else doesn’t mean it’s the case. Anytime someone uses the term nuance in their “counter argument” I take it as meaning that they don’t like facts and would like to add some of their meaningless opinions, usually based on feelings, to the issue.

    • @daviddaniels8787
      @daviddaniels8787 3 года назад +1

      Aron Linde - while a cynical use value power argument can one of many lenses to use, it also projects how you see the world, and projection of right wing power grabs, onto left wing objectives, really says more about you than them. All kinds of non transactional altruism exists in the liberal world. Seeking power for the powerless is as American as ‘we the people.’ Ghandi and MLK wanted freedom and equality, (just as the slave holding floundering fathers wanted for white men) - and without some kind of power, none of them could get what they really wanted. It was not a cynical ploy to say ‘I have a dream’ --> this is not to get power for the least amount of effort. The US marines motto is ‘de oppresso liber’ - ‘to free the oppressed’. - many of us do all kinds of things for principles of humanity, empathy, common decency, and civility - that violate your super simple market driven ‘Austrian school’ or libertarian analysis.

    • @MichaelImo
      @MichaelImo 3 года назад

      So is fear.. black are told to be afraid.. and use a horrible history to do it.

  • @over-educated-sp
    @over-educated-sp 3 года назад +4

    This is the first time I’ve listened to Coleman Hughes! He’s amazing!

  • @BradfordHills
    @BradfordHills 3 года назад +2

    I've learned so much from Coleman. Not just facts, figures and arguments, but how to communicate without triggering others by using patience, pacing tonality, and trying to remove ego.

  • @peterdembowy4459
    @peterdembowy4459 2 года назад +1

    Why is it so rare to hear a logical voice like Coleman

  • @jgg2220
    @jgg2220 3 года назад +11

    Probably the most reasonable, well read, high resolution thinker that I have encountered in a long time. That combined with his high IQ (I am guessing 170 range) pretty much ensures that the vast majority of people will discount his analyses.

  • @submandave1125
    @submandave1125 3 года назад +2

    It's useful to throw guilt into the discussion if your interest is only in effecting your desired policies with the least required effort.

  • @jwk6343
    @jwk6343 3 года назад +17

    I could tell Coleman how richly eloquent and well spoken he is and he wouldn’t be offended.

    • @lucashamrock817
      @lucashamrock817 3 года назад +2

      Damn dude, took me a second to realize what you were saying. That is a brutal joke/jab at the culture

    • @jedichild6815
      @jedichild6815 2 года назад

      @@lucashamrock817 I know. That was an interesting comment to read. I read it twice and was what? Then I was like Oh, yea, I’ve come across what he’s talking about 😝☮️

    • @DamienWilpitzEDC
      @DamienWilpitzEDC 2 года назад

      Haha. I’ve used to never understand how that was an offensive comment until I met a victim.

  • @grahamw453
    @grahamw453 3 года назад +2

    This guy is brilliant. Absolutely spot on. He obviously wants to help find a solution by the way he understands that being inflammatory is a blocker to people listening and understanding each other. I feel exactly the same. I will be following him on twitter. And about guilt ... I totally agree ... pointing the finger at people does not help solve the issue .. it just makes people defensive and hence much less likely to get involved in an open conversation where they will listen to you and express their deepest beliefs. The vast majority of people aren't evil. They just don't understand. Education and reasoned argument is the answer.

  • @TheKalluin
    @TheKalluin 3 года назад +6

    Coleman Hughes is one of the great minds of our time

  • @Cagliostro85
    @Cagliostro85 3 года назад +6

    As a “free thinker” I am in awe of Coleman and pleased by the way this interview is conducted and edited.
    However, as a cinematographer I think this could have been shot/lit so much better: hit me up, I’d be very happy to help!

  • @4Distractiononly
    @4Distractiononly 3 года назад +2

    I completely appreciate his perspective, his caution against inflammatory comments and care to make his points as carefully and structured as possible. Such a wise person for someone so young. I hope to see a lot more from him, he has a gifted mind.

  • @michaelbeasley5783
    @michaelbeasley5783 26 дней назад

    One of the clearest most penetrating analysts currently. His description of the problem with the concept of systemic racism emlightened me.

  • @uniqueYouTubeCreatorHandle
    @uniqueYouTubeCreatorHandle Год назад

    The algorithm has introduced me to yet another brilliant rational human being in Coleman Hughes. I used to fight irrationality with sarcasm and mockery, but as I got older I began to think more like this young man does already as an undergraduate. Expect great things from him; there is hope yet for our future.

  • @zakbzak7
    @zakbzak7 2 года назад +1

    One of the most brilliant kids in my Alabama school was a second generation African. She was the valedictorian the year we graduated in a 50 something% white - 20 something% black school. Her mother was my manager when I worked at the local Hardee's. She is one of my most favorite people of all time. So sweet and so calm to a rambunctious teenage idiot like me.

  • @AvedisIzmirlian
    @AvedisIzmirlian 3 года назад +2

    Great interview. Mr. Hughes is wise beyond his years and a much needed mind to heal our great nation.

  • @SpeakerBuilder
    @SpeakerBuilder 3 года назад +2

    You deserve tremendous praise for being brave enough to seek truth and speak that truth to the best of your ability.

  • @H8ED1
    @H8ED1 3 года назад +4

    This is the articulation I wish I possessed. My discussions with family over the very fragile topic has lead to me being called things I am not because I need a better vocabulary 🙏😎 #pushingforrealchange

  • @MrGunderfly
    @MrGunderfly 3 года назад +14

    We absolutely must do more of this brining of reason and calm logic on this topic into the public consciousness.

  • @MFYouTube683
    @MFYouTube683 2 года назад

    Calvin Robinson and Coleman Hughes are the voices of reason, one for America, one for the commonwealth. Great men.

  • @debblouin
    @debblouin 3 года назад +29

    The stenographer issue can’t be systemic racism if both black and white stenographers have difficulties transcribing black vernacular, unless you were able to demonstrate that these same stenographers had no difficulty transcribing other non-typical vernacular, e.g. ESL speakers, hearing impaired people, people with speech impediments, creoles or those with significant accents. If there wasn’t a demonstrable difficulty in the later compared to those who speak a black vernacular, you would need to examine the linguistic barriers in the process of transcription, just as you would if there was difficulty in transcribing all the other non-typical vernaculars, or speech patterns.

    • @davidhawley1132
      @davidhawley1132 3 года назад +4

      The problem is in the interaction of systems and a class of individuals, so there are at least two solutions: more inclusive systems, and enabling individuals to fit the systems. The latter is more empowering to the individual, while the former is a build up of the systems. Of these two solutions, I think that empowering the individual deserves higher priority.
      I am an English-speaking Caucasian living in Japan. I would rather upgrade my fluency than be accommodated.

    • @debblouin
      @debblouin 3 года назад +2

      @@davidhawley1132 But the latter requires effort on the part of the individual!!! And that's "not fair".

    • @davidhawley1132
      @davidhawley1132 3 года назад +1

      Debra Blouin I assume you are being sarcastic. We should be seeking to help people become more capable, rather than expand systems to compensate for their weaknesses. The latter ultimately serves those who run the systems.

    • @benkonopetski2894
      @benkonopetski2894 3 года назад

      @@debblouin its as fair as it will ever get; You get the chance to work your ass off, Thats true opportunity .

    • @benkonopetski2894
      @benkonopetski2894 3 года назад

      A black stenographer is inherently educated, while black defendants would be primarily lacking in linguistic skills and hence would defer to localized dialects and slang. This goes for any skin colour. Education eradicates racism faster than a call a for affirmative action.

  • @bookovza3925
    @bookovza3925 3 года назад +1

    First time listening to MR. hughes. Glad i have many more years to listen to him.

  • @nicosmind3
    @nicosmind3 3 года назад +46

    Have read a lot of socialists recently and now reading Marx. A lot of their examinations of society are very myopic (narrow minded). They look at the world in a very limited way, and either dismiss or flatly ignore many other factors.
    For instance Marx wanted to judge society by material wealth and how wealth affects "social conciousness". They claim all societies are affected by matrerial relationships, without trying to test that premise, and without looking at other causes. In fact cultural causes like politics and religion they claim are developed by this "materialist conception" and not the other way round, or both affecting each other.
    But law and incentives affect how wealth gets developed in society. Europe was lagging behind China and India which were 80% of world GDP as late as 1750. But Europe made one change after the other and started to boom. China, despite having a head start and people advocating for a market system went the opposite direction and got poorer. They centralised power and ended up suffering for it.
    So it seems to me that all socialists try to interpret the world i a way which only creates one solution. And ignore the obvious. That their system fails and creates misery, and capitalism has been an astonishing success, lifting even the poorest out of misery.

    • @craigb4913
      @craigb4913 3 года назад +8

      Exactly. Beware of monocausal explanations for complex phenomena. Marx was a one-trick pony that viewed everything through the materialist, capital vs labor lens. It's so simplistic it's absurd. Its simplicity is part of its appeal.

    • @damo5701
      @damo5701 3 года назад +3

      @@craigb4913 Yes, and today that lens is identity politics sometimes called cultural marxism and goes beyond identity (sex race etc) and includes broader group identity and labeling such as climate change denier, conspiracy theorist, science denier, anti vaxer etc and then using shame and guilt to manipulate and control.

    • @MissMarie1377
      @MissMarie1377 3 года назад

      Damo the problem isn't identity politics it's that everyone else is using it and we are not. It's never going to work when everyone else is playing chess and we are not even playing checkers, we are outside bitching about board games

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 3 года назад +3

      @@MissMarie1377 I dont know, to me identity politics is checkers. Its looking at aggregates and not digging down into the numbers.
      Eg Nigerian Americans earn more than Dutch Americans. To use the identitiy politics lens when examining that slither of information is to say "the system is anti-Dutch/racist" and "Nigerians have Nigerian privilege'". However Nigerians study more, are more likely to have a 2 parent household, attend universities at a high rate, put off having children till their economically stable, etc etc etc.
      Indentity politics is too simple. And i believe most people, upon hearing real explanations are able to grasp them. And then either reject the left as liars, or morons.

    • @hannannah1uk
      @hannannah1uk 3 года назад +1

      @@craigb4913 To make the theory work they have to ignore the middle classes. To make the practice work they have to destroy the middle classes. This they do. Physically in the past or psychologically in the present.

  • @VocalEdgeTV
    @VocalEdgeTV 3 года назад +2

    Here we have a brilliant, well spoken young man. You can tell even by the tone and pace at which he speaks.

  • @outnabout2281
    @outnabout2281 3 года назад +4

    This young man's clarity of thought and analytical ability coupled with superb language skills - - - - so dwarfs my ability to describe what a rare gift he is to all mankind. Anyway, I've painted myself into the corner, don't know where this is going or how to get out. God bless Coleman Hughes, get the picture?

  • @JadeSun7
    @JadeSun7 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for getting this stuff out there!

  • @dongaetano3687
    @dongaetano3687 2 месяца назад +1

    Great clip PI. Smart guy tackling a tough issue intelligently and gracefully.

  • @derrick_v
    @derrick_v 3 года назад +4

    That burp at 3:00 caught me off guard. First heard Coleman on 'The Fifth Column' with Kemel Foster, another great thinker. Loved him ever since.

    • @Zdeno33
      @Zdeno33 3 года назад

      He does that a lot- talking and then suddenly stop for a moment. I have wondered if maybe he has gastrointestinal problems.

  • @CosmicLeche
    @CosmicLeche 3 года назад +1

    I think a lot of people would disagree with the idea of guilt being passed down from one generation to the next, in a sort of "sins of the father" way, but somehow, as soon as you introduce race to it, it's not messed-up?
    I didn't feel guilty for being white to begin with, despite the internet's best efforts, but I'm glad he's out there, saying these things, because someone has to. I've been feeling like I'm going insane over here, because I'm someone who prefers to view people as individuals, surrounded by collectivists, and it's just such a breath of fresh air when someone like him speaks out.

  • @Nietzsche715
    @Nietzsche715 3 года назад +2

    So much respect for Coleman Hughes.

  • @burleybater
    @burleybater 3 года назад +16

    I believe you're conflict-averse by nature, Coleman.
    I also believe that this trait should be far more valued than it appears to be, in people who cannot help but put across controversial opinions.
    Because it gives those opinions more credence, when we can be more liable to consider those opinions having innate value, instead of falling into the all-too-common default response of suspicion that an expressed opinion serves no other purpose than to cause volatile reaction.

  • @jmp4177
    @jmp4177 3 года назад

    I just discovered Coleman recently. And with all of the current racial and political strife in this country, It is both refreshing and encouraging to hear to a young person like this discuss these issues with such calmness and rationality. This young man is truly wise beyond his years.

  • @patrickedwards4790
    @patrickedwards4790 3 года назад +1

    Coleman Hughes is going places.

  • @kn0wr3zz
    @kn0wr3zz 3 года назад +2

    Very amazing talk with probably one of the most brilliant minds of our times.

  • @nikolaidante3571
    @nikolaidante3571 3 года назад +3

    Wow. What a refreshing and intelligent person! The complete opposite of twitter

  • @richtricky6832
    @richtricky6832 3 года назад +2

    Well said Coleman, your alternative frameworks are more useful and will help to bring about positive change. Keep up the great work.

  • @redpanda2961
    @redpanda2961 3 года назад +2

    Amazing! What an absolutely incredible guy. He formulated his side of the story extraordinarily well! I completely agree with what he is saying here. Thanks for teaching me how to form such discussion.

  • @touchedouche8806
    @touchedouche8806 3 года назад +2

    Wow! Very well thought out contemplation. First I’ve heard of this nature. Jordan Peterson, social psychologist, touches on this. We are different... down to the individual. And of course since everything has been ascribed as “racist”, nothing is anymore!!!

  • @jimr5855
    @jimr5855 3 года назад

    I'm offering you praise today Coleman. Keep speaking your own view. It's quite an amazing time, so many brilliant thought leaders emerging onto the stage.

  • @QuelDroma366
    @QuelDroma366 3 года назад +1

    It's nice to hear someone do such a good job of articulating the conservative view on race.

  • @remodernist
    @remodernist 2 года назад

    i really like coleman's articulate and well thought, careful and deliberate delivery. he speaks very clearly and concisely, giving me chance to follow his entire thought. great intellectual, writer and speaker.

  • @jeremylowe1091
    @jeremylowe1091 3 года назад +2

    This is a very interesting look at it and has a lot of great information. I wish more people would listen to him.

  • @zk191
    @zk191 2 года назад

    I fucking love this guy! He articulates EXACTLY what I think without being able to put the right words together to get it across. Everybody needs to hear this man.

  • @OlTrailDog
    @OlTrailDog 3 года назад

    I am truly impressed how Coleman presents such well reasoned arguments. Really makes me think and rethink what I believe, even though I agree with the vast majority of what he has to say. In a nutshell, he is someone who really makes me think things through.

  • @01sevensix
    @01sevensix 3 года назад +6

    Every time I hear him speak.... He blows my mind. Coleman for Congress.

    • @darrenmclaughlin1362
      @darrenmclaughlin1362 3 года назад +1

      His insights and ability to express them are too valuable to let them be ruined by politics.

  • @dancarter5595
    @dancarter5595 3 года назад +1

    This guy is awesome. Thanks for introducing me to him.

  • @mrsbeckydaisy
    @mrsbeckydaisy 3 года назад

    Brave man!! He tries so hard to not piss people of any race off yet is able to he honest because he is black. We need more incredibly brave men like this gentlemen. Our country has to get past this “systemic racism” problem to move forward.

  • @johnhaynes9910
    @johnhaynes9910 3 года назад

    I like Coleman Hughes not because "he makes me as a white person feel better" but simply because it is always good to hear someone take a difficult problem and both look and talk about it rationally without all the useless noise which will change nothing except as in this case, increase racism and division. It must be obvious to a blind person that the only way to solve the problem is by the majority working together, we are unlikely to eradicate prejudice completely but a bit like the major decline in people smoking, by making it socially and culturally "unacceptable", we can reduce it significantly.

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 3 года назад

    I very much appreciate his comment about treating people as individuals regardless of what may be true statically. Statistical likelihood about attitudes and behaviors based on a single variant such as race is not likely to be very applicable to a given individual because individuals come with all sorts of confounding influences. I heard it said this way. The problem with identity politics is that it's true. It's true that a given group has its advantages and disadvantages. The problem is that there is a near infinite number of ways to parse people out into groups. So, the logical conclusion is that a given individual has a unique set of advantages and disadvantages that no one else has. So, the proper thing to do is to treat people as individuals.

  • @pauldiam0nd
    @pauldiam0nd 3 года назад +2

    12:20 "The whole idea of race pride and race guilt is corrupt to begin with". I couldn't have said it better!

  • @bizzybee3762
    @bizzybee3762 3 года назад

    You’re a brilliant thinker, very scientific. I appreciate you’re care in choice of verbiage to illuminate educate rather than either inflame or condescend. Making sense above emotionality is a good thing!

  • @Ozark_Viking
    @Ozark_Viking 2 года назад

    God why is everything that comes out of Coleman’s mouth so spot on?? The fact that I am in a graduate level “diversity” class and the ideas of people like him and John mcwhorter have not been mentioned once seems like a crime.

  • @misterevil1967
    @misterevil1967 3 года назад +12

    It may have largely been people who looked like me that instituted slavery in the United States. But it was also people who looked liked me, who abolished it.

  • @fixedG
    @fixedG 2 года назад +1

    The "third place" is outcomes. Every banking institution in the country is required to do annual training on bias and included in that is training on "disparate impact." Where "disparate treatment" is treating one group of people different from another based on something such as race, disparate impact is where you have a policy and somehow, whether by intent or not, one group of people different from another is impacted differently.
    I would also add pride to guilt and shame as non-useful emotions when it comes to crafting policy.

  • @colinjames7569
    @colinjames7569 3 года назад

    Coleman is sublime... he’s on another level. I love listening to him discuss fake virtue vs was it is to be real and deal w the world as it exists. Reality

  • @MSculls19
    @MSculls19 3 года назад

    This video was a true pleasure to watch, this man exudes wisdom. I had never heard of him before, but I'm paying attention now.

  • @Neurofunkworldwide
    @Neurofunkworldwide 3 года назад

    I've subscribed to his podcast. Brilliant man.

  • @freakboynv2000
    @freakboynv2000 3 года назад +1

    A brilliant analysis, bravo sir.

  • @frankfeldman6657
    @frankfeldman6657 3 года назад +5

    The sane, thoughtful, far more intelligent, honest antidote to Candace Owens.

    • @charltonblake9967
      @charltonblake9967 3 года назад +2

      Candice is a partisan antagonist. Coleman is calm, respectful, and far wiser. We need way more people like him and fewer like Candice.

    • @michaelweber5702
      @michaelweber5702 2 года назад

      @@charltonblake9967 , I love Coleman and I like Candace . We can use the help of both of them ...

  • @JohnDoe-tt6en
    @JohnDoe-tt6en 3 года назад +2

    He is an intelligent man.

  • @TheGeenat
    @TheGeenat 3 года назад +1

    I like him more each time I hear him speak. So smart.

  • @mariabusold3809
    @mariabusold3809 Год назад

    Thank you Mister Hughes!

  • @MrMorlaf
    @MrMorlaf 3 года назад +1

    Love how he belched, almost vomited into his own mouth but carried on regardless like a hero!

  • @gavaniacono
    @gavaniacono 8 месяцев назад

    CH gives one hope that complex issues can be addressed objectively, and without malice.

  • @RyderSpearmann
    @RyderSpearmann 3 года назад +1

    Such a great talk.

  • @jetsetter883
    @jetsetter883 3 года назад

    Excellent piece

  • @SpeakerBuilder
    @SpeakerBuilder 3 года назад

    Correlation does not equate with causation! This distinction is so critical for everyone to understand. But then, the educational institutions are not teaching kids to think critically.

  • @markm5412
    @markm5412 3 года назад +1

    Happy that you are young and exist.

  • @CognitiveDissident.
    @CognitiveDissident. 3 года назад +18

    People who want to give group responsibility, never want to take group responsibility.

  • @shawnevans2423
    @shawnevans2423 3 года назад +5

    Chasing the eternal ghost of systemic racism. One can neither prove or disprove the existence of aforementioned ghost.

  • @kironthomas1442
    @kironthomas1442 3 года назад +1

    I also agree with keeping racism either individual or institutional. Systemic is vague now that I reflect on the term.

  • @JK-fu1bn
    @JK-fu1bn 3 года назад

    Goddamn this guy hits the nail on the head. What an excellent summation of the problem with the idea of "systemic" racism. You don't have to break new ground to be brilliant this is an example genius communication of understanding. I feel like this is what the correct people are trying to say, but are failing to effectively communicate. So valuable the art of communication and discourse have largely been drowned by the narcissism of social media the correct answer nearly always falls upon deaf ears. The opinions of people who should not be paid heed are being amplified and proliferated. Played and capitalized upon by politicians and those who would gain from the proliferation of damaging and ill-conceived propagandized notions of reality. Truly a curious thing the grand solution to the crisis of misinformation and it's simpleminded acceptance would be to close ourselves off to the damaging sources of that information and live in the principles of benevolent civilization. Even so, millions are addicted to the curated lies of social media and to their own greed and desire. None of that is going away anytime soon and that's what scares me. The evidence of it's damage has finally blossomed in 2020. We are quickly realizing dystopian fantasy is reality. The only fantasy is the idea that we might someday see our true human potential come to fruition.

    • @JK-fu1bn
      @JK-fu1bn 3 года назад

      and now the world is too small to begin again anywhere new

  • @alanrobertson3172
    @alanrobertson3172 3 года назад +1

    He’s brilliant.

  • @StrongbyLee
    @StrongbyLee 3 года назад +6

    I bet there are a lot of people who are less guilty after watching this.
    I, for one, am guilty that I am an frigging idiot and have tried to even engage people in conversations about identity politics when I could have just sent them this video.

    • @samanthab6642
      @samanthab6642 3 года назад +1

      I have sent people videos like these and they will not even watch them.

    • @StrongbyLee
      @StrongbyLee 3 года назад +1

      @@samanthab6642 I watch videos from both the left and right, extreme and center. I try to educate myself the best I can with my limited intelligence. I come away with one thing: many people tend to say different things about the same topic, claiming their opinions are based on facts. How is that that two opposing views can both be true while at the same time, each side is claiming the other side is false?

  • @drewhawley8164
    @drewhawley8164 3 года назад +2

    Very precise in his speech- Rule 10

  • @davidkennedy431
    @davidkennedy431 3 года назад +2

    God protect this man.

  • @richattridge1812
    @richattridge1812 3 года назад +3

    he thinks, and thinks reasonably and deeply, about matters. He does his own research. No agenda except trying to be objectively critical. His voice is non racial. He has maturity beyond his years.

  • @gardnert1
    @gardnert1 3 года назад +1

    If we could just have everyone in the world watch this one video, I think we'd all be much better off.

  • @LYLEWOLD
    @LYLEWOLD 3 года назад +1

    man. i didn't realize i was going to get a mini-therapy. with all sincerity, thank you.

  • @vitaly6312
    @vitaly6312 3 года назад +1

    I think the more I learn about data and statistics the more I see how we need to dive down to the deepest levels of understanding instead of seeing a statistic and interpreting it as you see fit - or worse, as the news seems fit.

  • @jason.martin
    @jason.martin 3 года назад

    Such a good discussion !

  • @cjpapasito
    @cjpapasito 3 года назад +1

    Coleman Hughes, patriot.

  • @williampennjr.4448
    @williampennjr.4448 3 года назад

    very informative. This guy's great.
    How do we fix the problem of court stenographers? Is just being aware, and judges making sure the whole court understands the testamony of black witnesses enough?

  • @brianjoyce9040
    @brianjoyce9040 3 года назад

    The most important qualities in people are personal responsibility, make yourself useful and treat everyone you see equally. That is all a person can count on. Most everything else is out of your control.

  • @ohifonlyx33
    @ohifonlyx33 3 года назад

    Hey, I actually love this guy? He's so calm and thoughtful. Caring, but rational. Can we get him advising people in government? If not actually running.

  • @ambrose0
    @ambrose0 2 года назад

    Love Coleman Hughes, one of few rational voices actually making sense