As a young Black man myself, a great deal of what he is saying is actually quite true. But it is hard to be a Black man in this society and have these views. Trust me, I know from experience. But, you keep on pushing and you simply help those that want to be helped. That's all you can do.
I would like to apologize to you on behalf of the many psychotic white progressives out there who are trying to tell you as a black man how you should think and live. You're on your own when it comes to all the crazy black progressives trying to tell you how to think
@Irish Jester In terms of hip hop, the Black jazz musicians allowed their white peers to use the same notes and instruments as they did.. so if it is part of the rap lexicon whatevz, it can be used as a term of endearment and respect just as easily
@@cardion411 "Nigah" means "eyes" in Hindi language. We speak when flirting or singing normally . btw I am from India . you can use it for love songs. we indians have all the solutions
@@dewiowen3010 - There are two issues I have. 1st he raises the question of hypersensitivity with rergard to the n word without making it clear that historically the use that word by white folk, in particular white men, represents an existential threat to black people. From my POV, it's an issue anytime a white person uses it. 2nd, when he presented the the homicide statistics he presented them to expose black pathology w/o a discussion on why the pathology exists. He's implying that black folk are inherently murderous. He did something similar in another video when he compared Jamaican immigrants and black folk in the US as a way to dispel the existence/influence of systemic racism. This dude is dangerous. Be careful what you accept from this guy. Figures don't lie. He appears to be a liar that figures.
@@robertcherry7190 I agree with most of what you say but as far as the n word if someone is calling out another for using the word then should you not consider the context of the use of the word? Words only have meaning based on what you are implying when using said word and how someone interprets the use. It's like a curse word, simply saying f*ck and giving the definition is completely different then saying f*ck you or f*ck everyone etc. Shouldnt the fact that the white man calling out the people who used the word matter more than him simply saying the word itself? I'm not disregarding your feelings because I can't tell you how to feel about the use of the word I'm just asking to try to understand your point of view on the subject. Thanks.
Easter Worshipper Mexico City is the largest city in North America and has the cultural, culinary, and academic assets that come with that status.... Mexico is a colorful country and just like ALL countries, it has its problems. If Mexico bothers you so much, just don’t go lol...... Mexicans won’t be crying over your absence I assure you, and your racism isn’t earning you any points either
Easter Worshipper Okay I get that RUclips comment sections isn’t the place to post essays on comparative government, city planning, political theory, and post-colonial social issues but your reasoning did not make sense dude.. and I’m also not asking for your explanation. There’s no excuse for using a slur on someone. So stop talking.
@ I have taken time to listens to Dr Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Coleman himself one thing they have in common is the ability to listen and think things through. you listen to them for while you pick up those traits. that's what I meant by carrying myself like Coleman during conversations.
@ He is articulate, not articulated. Feelings or ideas can be articulated i.e. expressed or put into words. Lorries (trucks in US English) can also be articulated ! People are articulate.
I too have been trying to focus on how I express myself. I remember on Joe Rogan Milo Yianopulous offended the fuck out of Joe when he said, “Even if you’re an atheist, your value system is built on the foundation of Christianity.” Rogan cursed and swore, and though I usually like him, through grinding teeth he babbled, “such bullshit! If religion is such a foundation of moral virtues, what about the sperm soldiers in African countries, where they rape the boys they’re grooming into soldiers for non-sensical religious reasons!” Milo cruelly smirked, “And they’re not Christian countries Joe, and that’s a big reason why you’re disgusted, you proved my point!” Joe despised this guy through and through. Even though he clearly slam dunked his argument. He never changed his thoughts. Then Rogan had Dr. Jordan Peterson on his show. Well dressed, non-flashy, super calm, super respectful. Peterson-Religion is very important to a society’s value system, often whether or not it’s citizens are religious. Rogan-Definitely. Very much so. My mouth dropped when I by luck saw these back to back. It taught me about presenting my polarizing ideas calmly and respectfully.
The n word was not “fading” away it’s been prominent since slavery to today from the standpoint of excluding racists it’s very much ingrained in the music
Ever heard of the saying, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? Hughes knows how to challenge an idea. But then people take his words and use them to attack the people with those ideas. Hughes method can work to change minds, but not if you won't let it because you make it personal.
When a word has power over you, your self-image and your actions you are truly enslaved. Best response ever was a “hipster” asking a fellow coworker... Hipster: “How do you want me to refer to you as? Black? African American? Black American? Which do you prefer.” Coworker: Robert.
So much respect for him! I love how he can state facts, not in an inflammatory or condescending way, but in a compassionate constructive way. This is the attitude we need
I love how extremists label others crazy while sounding crazy!! This man is no more offensive to well reasoned individuals of the political spectrum. He denounces illogical far right and far left thinking equally. I find many of this opinions agreeable and others disagreeable. His demeanor and open mindedness are refreshing in today's polarized and demonizing landscape.
Both the Presenter and the Interviewee are intelligent, articulate, informed, objective and honest and their personable, polite discussion is delightfully refreshing to see, especially on this platform! I particularly enjoyed this interview, Presenter and Interviewee and their discussion on this subject. Subscribed.
@@mudfan061 He didnt explain. He stated an opinion, but there were no facts offered in terms of the connection between "irrational' reverence for the past encumbering a path forward to determining solutions that face black people. In fact many cultures use challenging chapters of their pasts as a springboard to inspire and cement solutions for their future. What is Hanukkah other than an annual celebration of a mythologized past wrong? What is the 4th of July other than a celebration of a nation shaking off the shackles of oppressive monarchy? I do disagree because his statement is provably false. Reverence for the past CAN be a springboard to solutions for the present and future. The issue is how does one leverage the emotional capital of past wrongs to develop those solutions.
@@TalentedTenth You make some good points and I don't really have an answer. But I think John McWhorter suggests that anti-racism has become a religion - and one that positions black Americans as victims. As such, their autonomy becomes compromised. I don't fully follow the argument but the gist of it seems to be that engrained victimhood creates some sort of collective passivity. I appreciate the recent riots don't seem passive. But two things: Firstly, some say that a lot of that energy was co-opted by the white, liberal left (I'm not sure I buy that, but I don't feel like I can completely discount it). Secondly, even though passivity isn't compatible with rioting, it does sometimes seem that it has an almost counterproductive outcome - i.e. it vents steam and nothing more, and then the pressure-cooker reverts back to a steady simmer.
@@Unfunny_Username_389 I'll get around to a deeper response to this but let me ask you a question. Which feels stronger and more proactive? Rape victim, Rape survivor or Rape Survivor and Anti-Rape activist?
Thank you Coleman, for speaking out. I treat that word like I treat the word cancer. Cancer has a bad connotation for most people, myself included. I wouldn't use the word cancer for swearing. Having said that, I'm not going to censor myself and not use the word altogether, nor am I going to demand others to either use euphemisms, or face the penalty of being cancelled.
Sometimes I think the mid-90's was the best "balance" of sensitivity in American public media and discourse. If you watch sitcoms from the mid 90's like Seinfeld, they are still able to joke about gender and race. People know it's a joke and there's some sensitivity. Today, we're way overboard hyper-sensitive, and those same jokes could not be used. Being able to joke is to be friends. To acknowledge weakness or discomfort is to be strong. If we can't do that, we've "looped around" to just making new scape goats and new "bad people". Today, the new "bad people" are white men.
My sister and I constantly bring this up, we grew up in the 90's and it that era had a good balance, but we also wondered if these current issues also existed in the 90's, but back then there wasn't social media to spread nonsense. Either way I think the 90's mentality is a strong one.
The only thing thats changed is social media and the pervasiveness of the Internet. If you ask most people when they feel the change happened, they’d point to an era between 2006 and 2008, and then 2013 when the black lives movement was born over Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown deaths. Most republicans would even lay the blame at Barack Obama’s feet. When in fact it was social media taking off around 2006. The death of Michael Brown was not the first time Black people protests the killing of a black person at the hands of police, but it was the first time social media served as an instrumented. So if you ask me, I don’t think anything has changed from whatever era as far as PC, Cancel culture and all that shxt, but social media serving the role of an amplifier.
Good observation. It seems like in the 80s you could criticize and ridicule gays with social impunity, but by the 90s it was common to hear something to the effect of "I don't care if they want to do their thing in private, I just dont want to see it". Now you are not even allowed (socially) to have a traditional Christian opinion on it.
Alan Sands Wtf is your point? You know there was also a time you could actually owned black people as slaves, now you can’t even call them the N word anymore. What’s the world coming to?
Years of brain washing from the medias… people get off your phone's or TV once in a while and experience the world with your own eyes and senses?? Wear a mask or don't? Just go outside. Stop fulfilling the prophesies the media is feeding you on a daily basis.
I've had someone say niggardly in my presence and I'm telling you, it FELT like there was something behind it, as if they were trying to get a rise out of me by using that word. Who uses a word from the year 1000 to describe stingy or miserly? I agree that people are overly sensitive these day but I promise you, someone has used that word with ill intent. And that's the problem, trying to figure out someone's intent.
If there is ill intent, then surely it is equivalent to a grown man passing gas trying to get a reaction from you. Why not see such a person as too puny to even bother combing through their intent?
Exactly!!!! ..I thought the exact same thing when I heard him say that bullcrap. If you use the word "Niggardly" in this day and age, it's to cause racial uproar.
I agree that some people may use niggardly with the intent to have it received as a racial slur by whomever they are speaking to. This could be true whether the speaker even knows what the word niggardly means, or not. There are others who may like to use older styles of speaking or words simply to impress others with their vocabulary. These people may not even recognize any notion that the word might offend people of color. Then, you have people who use some other word, almost any word it seems these days, with no intent to offend anyone, and have it thrown back in their face as being racist or insensitive at the very least. I would say in some cases it would be alright to ask the speaker what meaning they intended to convey by using the word, or if they realize the word might be taken wrongly by some people. But, to accuse someone of racism, have them fired, or otherwise abuse and harass them for simply speaking a word is sheer nonsense. I might be offended if a black person referred to me as a cracker, or a redneck, for example, and that would be every bit as justified as for a black person hearing the N-word used to refer to them. But, the use of the word cracker could have many other meanings, and if you don't know for certain that it was used as a racial slur or epithet, you have no reason to be upset about it. Blacks (or whites) who condemn a white person for uttering the N-word regardless of how or why it was used, would be no different from me condemning a black person who said, "Would you please pass me the crackers," or "Have you been out in the sun a lot, you have an awfully red neck." Also, it should not matter what the race of the speaker is regardless of what word we may be talking about. To support one person saying a word and condemn another for saying the same word, based on the race of the speaker is blatantly racist. It's no different than saying white people can vote and black people can't. We all have the right to vote, and we all have the right to free speech.
@@steveholman5978 I'm from England and have never heard anyone use that word and didn't even know the meaning until now (even elderly people). So, if someone uses it I'm just going to assume there is some sort of racial undertone too it or they're trying to hint/incite a reaction. It is a 1000 year old word so it's pretty word why someone would use that word. It's actually extremely weird to use that word, even if you are an older person.
I agree, we should view those people like that. It's just so sad that a person could have that instilled into them and it's also very sad that a person feels the need to say such a thing to try and prod a person or incite a reaction within them. I guess we could say, "such is life", but it doesn't have to be this way.
This is fye 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Here is why...he mentioned the thing of being scared to bring up the issue of violence among black men because there is a fear that it will reinforce a stereotype of black men having an inherent criminality! Great articulation!
There are different views in the black community about using the 'N' word. Some (like me) do not use it or like hearing it while others use it freely 'claim it' or remove its historical sting - but we all (black folks, I mean) agree on one thing - IT IS NOT FOR WHITE FOLKS.
Another great talk by Coleman. The one thing that always makes me shake my head about the duality of the "N" word is - it is ok for folks within the black community to use the word, but it is not ok for anyone else to - or you are labeled a racist (even forgetting about context). It is maddening.
@@neneodonkor I am a white man and I don't like the word. If the word is so bad, then NO ONE should use it. But to be subjective about who can use it just perpetuates the problem.
@Scorpio Rob N word is slur, racist insult. Context is paramount here. I fail to see justification to use it other than racially insult another black person. But you hear it everywhere, in tv, in radio, even little black kids in school are using it without realizing what’s behind. But they (and society) are immediately triggered when non-black person uses it no matter the context. And that’s just sanctimoniousness and being hypocrite.
@Scorpio Rob I hear what you are saying. People today, regardless of the color of your skin are living this experience. They are not living the experience of the past, they cannot, they were never there. Just as, we cannot be held accountable for the actions of others. We are all individuals and need to be held accountable for ourselves. The issue I see with this word is, it is used as a woke tool to perpetuate a victimization narrative. Like I said in my post, if this word is so bad (and I agree that it is not a nice word) then why use it at all? If it has a connotation of repression, then one should be working to remove it from one's vocabulary - not pulling it out when it suites there agenda and using as a tool of manipulation.
It's not a part of my vocabulary but I'd say within the Black community itself it's more controversial than portrayed. Most Black people would never say it to or around their parents or grandparents. Like if I said that to my dad or my cousins to their parents they'd get slapped or at least cussed out. You'd never dare say it to an elder.
I had to free myself from the power that word held over me. I grew to hate being moved to anger based on the whims of strangers, and so I dissected that word. I dissected my own relationship to that word: "why does it hurt to hear it used by non-blacks? Is the hurt a natural response of my nature as a black man? Or was I taught to be offended? What is the true meaning of the word anyway, and is it truth to my being?" By examining these things I came to the realization that the harm of words MUST enter through the gate of my mind, and filter down to my heart. What is my filter which I use to judge a thing by? Is it society's standards and expectations of me? But I am the gate keeper to both mind and heart, and a man MUST rule over both. Therefore, to allow the N word to affect my being then I am no longer the master of my domain: you are! The one who uses the word. If I don't want then is the solution to destroy the N word from existence? No. It is a stepping stone by which WE must use to strengthen our hearts. It is a test given by life. It can be used to both elevate and abase. The choice is up to the individual. I no longer take offense to hearing that word spoken by non-blacks, whether in offense or not. There's great liberty in this, as I've become a master and not a servant to the words of others. My emotions have been subdued, and I can argue without being overcome by the power of insults. I choose what to do with them, to be offended or not be offended. My eyes are no longer fixated on the past pain of black people as I walk forward. To be fixated on the past in a world where time marches forward IS a recipe for disaster. How can we hope to make progress while living looking through life's rearview mirror? The natural is a type/shadow of the mental, and there's a cliff up ahead, or light post at the very least. In short, we are offended because we are weak. But it's because we are weak that we can overcome this and become strong.
Wow. Awesome post. I'm deeply moved. You sir or madam have stated very articulately what I only vaguely before understood. I learned something of great value today. Thanks and God bless.
I just made three comments. Each had the following form: This is a test comment, it contains the word [expletive in quotes]. The expletives in question were the so called F-word, C-word, and N-word, but in the actually comments, each expletive was presented in full: i.e. the 4-letter word starting with the letter "f" and ending with the letter "k"; the 4-letter word starting with the letter "c" and ending with the letter "t"; and of course the 6-letter word starting with the letter "n" and ending with the letter "r". Notice that the first two comments have survived, but the last of the three has not. Curiously, some comments further down do include the N-word (i.e. the actual six-letters mentioned above), so it's not clear what criteria are being used when censoring.
Language is the gateway from which thought flows. Being an irrational slave to “words” is a prerequisite to having one’s thoughts controlled. After that it’s all over.
I would love to hear Coleman discuss why he thinks the "N" word does not disappear from our lexicon. Who is primarily responsible for perpetuating its use?
I don't like the title, but the Intellectual Dark Web seems to have a new member. Can't wait to see where this gentleman goes with it. Very considerate and thought-out and articulate arguments, divorced from emotion.
I’m curious to know if there was friction between these people and their work environment prior to their use of the “n word.” Were they looking for an excuse to fire them, or are we truly this irrational about the word? Context is always key, and sometimes there’s multiple layers.
I live in a city that is majority Black. I have heard the N word often, never from a white person, btw. I personally have never said it and have no desire to say it. I have never understood why, if it’s such a horrible word, some Black people say it so frequently. It has been explained to me but I still don’t understand why it’s ok. I have also experienced very hostile pushback, including being called a racist for even asking the question.
Lol he called the sensitivity around the word “irrational”, compared it to another affinity group then proceeded to say that it is “understandable. I don’t want to fight in yt comments but when I first watched this video I was blown away by how well he uses rhetoric that I forgot to listen to the substance. He’s a very smooth talker!
Even if I like Crowder or Shapiro, I have to say that this man is on a different level here. He could go very well with Jordan Peterson. The two of them have real brains. Imagine Peterson as President and Hughes as Vice President.
Devil's Advocate Correct. I also believe they are not part of a solution but more of a confrontation. We need sane people now who speak with reason AND the right goal in mind. It‘s not good enough to shit face your political opponents. You need to leave the door open to give them a way to change. I think people like Hughes are fantastic. He got the right intentions. He wants to fix something and not make it worse.
Lol well that’s not very practical. People give every word mining and react accordingly and sometimes it’s not just about the connotation, it’s the people using them and the context example is your mom saying you are handsome vs a Female vs a man. What I am trying to say is that there is nothing like it’s just a word.
I wish he'd focus his attention on solutions to problems affecting black people like the one he mentioned, rather than always complaining about the meta. Leading by example would probably be a more effective way of changing the discourse.
Remember the name because I guarantee you'll be hearing more from this guy in future. An intelligent, articulate, centre-left writer who can speak for the silent black majority without inflaming either side. Eventually the cream rises to the top, as will this guy.
Saying per-say one word is racist and allowing only own group to use it, then purposefully putting it into songs and culture and then calling people racist cause they want to use it too is like purposely keeping racism well and alive if they say its racist.
This is what's happened to Wendy Mesley from the CBC in Canada. In a meeting discussing racism, quoting another journalist, the quote of which included the 'n' word
6 languages and 4 degrees you said there’s no need to say it because it isn’t derogatory. That makes no sense. That implies that if it were derogatory, people would need to say it.
I'm from Germany and I can tell you that the fixation on those words in the USA is soooooo much bigger than over here in Germany among Germans, Jews, foreigners and other groups. I guess we are more rational about it and are more likely to judge people by their intentions and actions rather than by their choice of words. This does not mean that we use racial slurs all the time by any means but if we talk about a certain word, we are "allowed to say it" without fearing repression from anybody. Maybe because of the ever-present guilt we feel about WW2, we assume by default that nobody is really a racist until THEY clearly state so (which is not very hard to do). In the USA it seems that you are not allowed to decide about if you are a racist or not yourself, but rather it's being decided for you, forced on you. I think this trend is ridiculous and will eventually eat itself as people (hopefully!) grow wiser and will understand the stupidity of such nonlogical behaviour. Anyways I wish you the best of luck with that! Seems like an unbearable situation in your otherwise beautiful country.
I live in Berlin since 2004. After spending time in NYC I can guarantee that the hysteria around language is not nearly as pronounced here as it is in the USA.
If aliens came down to earth and asked us about this word, there would be no possible way to explain our feelings towards it coherently. It's simultaneously the most significant and feared word in the English language and yet used with complete abandon and lack of thought or consideration by the very people whom it is claimed it hurts the most. If this conversation was played to the aliens and then, before telling them that "n-word" means "nigger" you played them a handful of Hip-Hop albums they would not be able to guess that that's the word that was being discussed. Such a important, divisive, and apparently offensive word couldn't possibly be thrown around so casually by the very people whom it was invented to disparage. It's just not possible. And yet here we are, on this crazy planet with these crazy issues.
ooooh they are going to crucify me for saying this: I love the N-word! I love the swag of it! I've spoke it thousands of times, sung it, however never to -or referring to a person with African descent. I learned it through comedy (Murphy, Chappelle, Tucker, etc) and hip hop. I greet all my friends with it "what's up nigga?", when I'm surprised I'll say "nigga whaaaaaaaaa?" or "nigga daaaaaaamn!". For me, it has a whole different meaning. Meaning is arbitrary. I know in USA, African-descent people don't like to be addressed by it, so I never say it in front of them, but in private, or between friends... I love to say N-word!
It's all about value. If the history and system tells you you are not valued then life is valueless for many in a system that doesn't cater for their specific needs. And I don't mean handouts.
This guy is one of the smartest people on social media. All this sh*t is not about race, it is about ideology. He is operating many levels above most people.
Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughs are two intellectuals whose interviews are a listening joy. They’re willing to face derision and criticism for maintaining their well informed views, which are neither conservative, nor progressive. They question many of the colloquialisms which are furthering social division instead of healing it.
Of course you do.... because they don't make whyte folks feel guilty about anything by not blaming them specifically for anything. If I was whyte, I'd love those two 🦝 too. 🤷🏾♂️
As an Englishman I'm mildly pleased that people prefer being described using words of English rather than Spanish origin. But totally amazed by the passion. If I address someone as "sir" this could be a term of great respect or great contempt according to tone and context. I have no doubt that the N word can similarly be used as an insult and should not be. But to get that excited? It seems to be a hare put up by people who intend no good to black people, but want to appear as though they do.
I am on the left and quite frankly I find this man insightful. I think he is what part of a narrative of what black and whites need to hear. You assume that all of us on the left are "bleeding hearts" but many of us are realists as well.
How do I get my students in high school to stop saying that word when they are saying it to each other. Black, white, hispanic, it doesn't matter. They all say it.
I say ANY word is up for grabs and it should be illegal to fire people over saying a word. Companies should not have that much power over people. Too sensitive is dangerous.
i just wanted to say that Coleman's intelligent and rational insights on the 'n' word in America is neither left nor right. you don't have to be a right wing to agree with him/see his point and if you're left wing it won't make you any less left wing if you agree with him/see his point. but it sure will make you less of an idiot lol
The former CEO of Papa John's, John Schnatter resigned for criticising the NFL for not doing more to stop players from taking a knee before games and the ensuing financial backlash. Also for saying (in the training call) that Colonel Sanders called blacks 'N' words (hinting that Colonel Sanders was not hurt by foing this) and the backlash from this as well.
As charged as the N word is, it is a "word", on the scale of the socialtle problems it gets far too much traction, and how the black community liberally use it justifies my stance.
Cool video dude, this guy is is a great speaker. What types of speakers or guests do you usually bring on? Or is the selection of speakers or guests for random.
Thanks for watching Richard! We have on guests from all walks of life, from a broad range of perspectives. We seek those who are very well versed in their area so that we can have as fruitful of a conversation as possible. As long as the topic is relevant to what's happening in the world today, we're pretty open!
@@exploringminds_ that's nice to hear. I couldn't help notice that your channel barely gets any views for the quality of it's production. How do you guys stay afloat, do you solely depend on donors and patreons, or is there substantial ad revenue generated from RUclips.
We just launched a couple months ago so we are definitely new and growing. We're lucky that our small team here possesses the skills needed to get this show up and running. The goal is to grow and expand the team/production to make the content as amazing and useful for you guys as possible.
Let’s be honest about the n word: it pretty much had lost all it’s potency (just like the f word today) so it had to be dragged up in a fake outrage sort of way. Also: complete double standard about who can say it. If it’s so bad, NO ONE should be allowed to say it, period. But the fact that Blacks use it all the time proves my first point: it has lost it’s offensiveness.
The hyper-sensitivity around the original word is absolutely justified. The sensitivity around the n-word with the 'A' ending is understandable, but the A-ending is overblown and the entire world is numb to it. It is now in everybody's vocabulary (of every color) because it has been intentionally sold a billion times over in songs. A large section of Black America has intentionally monetized the word in music and comedy specials and treats it like a privileged prized investment. Since the beginning of time humans have been singing along to the songs they like. All humans do this. It is basic human nature. There are now entire generations of people of all colors listening to the radio, RUclips, Spotify, etc. who have grown up from the day they were children having this word blasted into their ears. It's all they know. No one person or group can control it at this point. Pandoras box has opened. The cat is out of the bag...
Actually Hughes is wrong about (Papa) John Schnatter. The context in which the word was used is different than what Hughes claims. And, more importantly, it's part of a larger issue in which Schnatter criticized the NFL because it didn't crack down on players kneeling, which was hurting ratings, and in turn, Papa John's business, so he says.
Curious to hear his thoughts on how certain races and cultures have largely overcome the same injustices that blacks seem to maintain a position of oppressed and treated unfairly. Race relations seem to be going backwards as a result of black-centric perceived inequality. Also, the host kinda reminds me of Renee Zellweger.
@@brainxtc2171 Actually, that’s pretty ignorant from you…throughout the history there have been plenty society’s where being a slave were horrible fate. And some society’s not so long ago, where you don’t even have to be slave at all to be systematically decimated. To say Jim Crow laws were worst in all of mankind history is pretty ignorant and don’t get me wrong, it was pretty horrible and dark times for black community, but you cannot make that statement without ignoring historic facts...
It's the history associated with it. The genocide and dehumanization of millions of black people, the word was used as a slur against these people. It wasn't arbitrarily made off-limits. It's the least we could do.
There's a lot of sensitivity behind racism and antisemitism. Talking about certain issues is problematic as it triggers and prevents us from discussing concerns over murders in the black community or around the Gaza strip #exploringminds
There’s a story in my (white) family of how a white woman kept using the word around her black coworker. The black woman tolerated it for only so long, and snapped one day. She trapped the bigot’s head in a door with the implicit threat of causing significant pain and said, “You don’t have to be black to be a n-.” She let the white woman go, and neither party reported any problems after. I always wondered if the event really happened as my grandfather described, but his takeaway was pretty clear. He admired the black woman for standing up for herself and took the contradiction of the racial coding of the word to heart. He decided she was right, that “n-“ isn’t identity, but it’s behavior which means choice, which means anyone can or cannot be one. Of course he’s white and I’m white so I don’t know if this is a correct interpretation of the word. I definitely know there’s more to it. However, it is foundational to the way I consciously understand race. Apologies for length. I think a lot of us, on all sides of the political & social spectrums are doing a lot of soul searching on the subject. Sometimes it helps to think aloud.
I like Coleman and agree with a lot of what he says. I definitely think he should have a bigger platform than Al Sharpton or Candice Owens. But, I disagree with him here. You can allude to the word without saying it. If you say the N word people know what you're talking about.
There's a rationale behind what Coleman Hughes is saying, and I agree that context matters with any use of language. I don't view the Papa John's example as being the same as Michael Richards, obviously. That being said, as a white person, I try to avoid using that word at all. It has a tendency to bring a chill to a room, especially when used by someone who looks like me, and for very understandable historical reasons. The problem with removing stigma around the word is that I think it might eventually ennoble non-black people to use in contexts that are much more sinister. I prefer the status quo far and away over that.
As a young Black man myself, a great deal of what he is saying is actually quite true. But it is hard to be a Black man in this society and have these views. Trust me, I know from experience. But, you keep on pushing and you simply help those that want to be helped. That's all you can do.
I actually don't like much of the new, young rapper's music. Glorifies materialism.
I would like to apologize to you on behalf of the many psychotic white progressives out there who are trying to tell you as a black man how you should think and live.
You're on your own when it comes to all the crazy black progressives trying to tell you how to think
@Irish Jester In terms of hip hop, the Black jazz musicians allowed their white peers to use the same notes and instruments as they did.. so if it is part of the rap lexicon whatevz, it can be used as a term of endearment and respect just as easily
The same is true for latinos and whites, there are irrational lunatics in each group pushing their agenda
@@cardion411 "Nigah" means "eyes" in Hindi language. We speak when flirting or singing normally
. btw I am from India
. you can use it for love songs. we indians have all the solutions
I wish more people would listen to rational truthful discussions like this.
It's not a completely honest discussion.
What do you mean, are they telling lies?
@@dewiowen3010 -
There are two issues I have.
1st he raises the question of hypersensitivity with rergard to the n word without making it clear that historically the use that word by white folk, in particular white men, represents an existential threat to black people. From my POV, it's an issue anytime a white person uses it.
2nd, when he presented the the homicide statistics he presented them to expose black pathology w/o a discussion on why the pathology exists. He's implying that black folk are inherently murderous.
He did something similar in another video when he compared Jamaican immigrants and black folk in the US as a way to dispel the existence/influence of systemic racism.
This dude is dangerous. Be careful what you accept from this guy.
Figures don't lie. He appears to be a liar that figures.
Robert Cherry some really good points here. I don’t think he does it on purpose, but for someone so smart how does he manage to miss the mark?
@@robertcherry7190 I agree with most of what you say but as far as the n word if someone is calling out another for using the word then should you not consider the context of the use of the word? Words only have meaning based on what you are implying when using said word and how someone interprets the use. It's like a curse word, simply saying f*ck and giving the definition is completely different then saying f*ck you or f*ck everyone etc. Shouldnt the fact that the white man calling out the people who used the word matter more than him simply saying the word itself? I'm not disregarding your feelings because I can't tell you how to feel about the use of the word I'm just asking to try to understand your point of view on the subject. Thanks.
Meanwhile some rap songs use it as every 2nd word and it's completely fine.
Coleman was 22 years old in this interview. What an intelligent young man.
So fiercely intelligent and so young, I think I found a good intellectual role model 😍
I didn't know he was so young. This man will be undoubtedly important in the public arena in the next years
Easter Worshipper Okay?? lmao
Easter Worshipper Mexico City is the largest city in North America and has the cultural, culinary, and academic assets that come with that status.... Mexico is a colorful country and just like ALL countries, it has its problems. If Mexico bothers you so much, just don’t go lol...... Mexicans won’t be crying over your absence I assure you, and your racism isn’t earning you any points either
Easter Worshipper Okay I get that RUclips comment sections isn’t the place to post essays on comparative government, city planning, political theory, and post-colonial social issues but your reasoning did not make sense dude.. and I’m also not asking for your explanation. There’s no excuse for using a slur on someone. So stop talking.
lately I have been carrying myself like Coleman during conversations.
I don't think that is possible. This man has a particular brain that allows him to be that articulate.
@ Never limit yourself Gee
@ I have taken time to listens to Dr Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Coleman himself one thing they have in common is the ability to listen and think things through. you listen to them for while you pick up those traits. that's what I meant by carrying myself like Coleman during conversations.
@ He is articulate, not articulated. Feelings or ideas can be articulated i.e. expressed or put into words. Lorries (trucks in US English) can also be articulated ! People are articulate.
I too have been trying to focus on how I express myself. I remember on Joe Rogan Milo Yianopulous offended the fuck out of Joe when he said, “Even if you’re an atheist, your value system is built on the foundation of Christianity.”
Rogan cursed and swore, and though I usually like him, through grinding teeth he babbled, “such bullshit! If religion is such a foundation of moral virtues, what about the sperm soldiers in African countries, where they rape the boys they’re grooming into soldiers for non-sensical religious reasons!”
Milo cruelly smirked, “And they’re not Christian countries Joe, and that’s a big reason why you’re disgusted, you proved my point!”
Joe despised this guy through and through. Even though he clearly slam dunked his argument. He never changed his thoughts.
Then Rogan had Dr. Jordan Peterson on his show.
Well dressed, non-flashy, super calm, super respectful.
Peterson-Religion is very important to a society’s value system, often whether or not it’s citizens are religious.
Rogan-Definitely. Very much so.
My mouth dropped when I by luck saw these back to back. It taught me about presenting my polarizing ideas calmly and respectfully.
This guy is the worst nightmare of the far left crazies.
They are not left. They are privileged petite bourgeois nutjobs.
Lol no he is not. Btw I'm not a far left crazy.
The n word was not “fading” away it’s been prominent since slavery to today from the standpoint of excluding racists it’s very much ingrained in the music
Ever heard of the saying, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? Hughes knows how to challenge an idea. But then people take his words and use them to attack the people with those ideas. Hughes method can work to change minds, but not if you won't let it because you make it personal.
DGot14U huh what are you talkin about
When a word has power over you, your self-image and your actions you are truly enslaved.
Best response ever was a “hipster” asking a fellow coworker...
Hipster: “How do you want me to refer to you as? Black? African American? Black American? Which do you prefer.”
Coworker: Robert.
So much respect for him! I love how he can state facts, not in an inflammatory or condescending way, but in a compassionate constructive way. This is the attitude we need
I love how extremists label others crazy while sounding crazy!! This man is no more offensive to well reasoned individuals of the political spectrum. He denounces illogical far right and far left thinking equally. I find many of this opinions agreeable and others disagreeable. His demeanor and open mindedness are refreshing in today's polarized and demonizing landscape.
Both the Presenter and the Interviewee are intelligent, articulate, informed, objective and honest and their personable, polite discussion is delightfully refreshing to see, especially on this platform!
I particularly enjoyed this interview, Presenter and Interviewee and their discussion on this subject. Subscribed.
6:15 "The price you pay for the irrational reverence for history is that you cannot solve the problems facing black people today"
why?
Friday Saturday he explained why. I guess you just disagree
@@mudfan061 He didnt explain. He stated an opinion, but there were no facts offered in terms of the connection between "irrational' reverence for the past encumbering a path forward to determining solutions that face black people. In fact many cultures use challenging chapters of their pasts as a springboard to inspire and cement solutions for their future. What is Hanukkah other than an annual celebration of a mythologized past wrong? What is the 4th of July other than a celebration of a nation shaking off the shackles of oppressive monarchy? I do disagree because his statement is provably false. Reverence for the past CAN be a springboard to solutions for the present and future. The issue is how does one leverage the emotional capital of past wrongs to develop those solutions.
@@TalentedTenth You make some good points and I don't really have an answer. But I think John McWhorter suggests that anti-racism has become a religion - and one that positions black Americans as victims. As such, their autonomy becomes compromised. I don't fully follow the argument but the gist of it seems to be that engrained victimhood creates some sort of collective passivity. I appreciate the recent riots don't seem passive. But two things: Firstly, some say that a lot of that energy was co-opted by the white, liberal left (I'm not sure I buy that, but I don't feel like I can completely discount it). Secondly, even though passivity isn't compatible with rioting, it does sometimes seem that it has an almost counterproductive outcome - i.e. it vents steam and nothing more, and then the pressure-cooker reverts back to a steady simmer.
@@Unfunny_Username_389 I'll get around to a deeper response to this but let me ask you a question. Which feels stronger and more proactive? Rape victim, Rape survivor or Rape Survivor and Anti-Rape activist?
Thank you Coleman, for speaking out. I treat that word like I treat the word cancer. Cancer has a bad connotation for most people, myself included. I wouldn't use the word cancer for swearing. Having said that, I'm not going to censor myself and not use the word altogether, nor am I going to demand others to either use euphemisms, or face the penalty of being cancelled.
Sometimes I think the mid-90's was the best "balance" of sensitivity in American public media and discourse. If you watch sitcoms from the mid 90's like Seinfeld, they are still able to joke about gender and race. People know it's a joke and there's some sensitivity. Today, we're way overboard hyper-sensitive, and those same jokes could not be used. Being able to joke is to be friends. To acknowledge weakness or discomfort is to be strong. If we can't do that, we've "looped around" to just making new scape goats and new "bad people". Today, the new "bad people" are white men.
My sister and I constantly bring this up, we grew up in the 90's and it that era had a good balance, but we also wondered if these current issues also existed in the 90's, but back then there wasn't social media to spread nonsense. Either way I think the 90's mentality is a strong one.
The only thing thats changed is social media and the pervasiveness of the Internet. If you ask most people when they feel the change happened, they’d point to an era between 2006 and 2008, and then 2013 when the black lives movement was born over Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown deaths. Most republicans would even lay the blame at Barack Obama’s feet. When in fact it was social media taking off around 2006. The death of Michael Brown was not the first time Black people protests the killing of a black person at the hands of police, but it was the first time social media served as an instrumented. So if you ask me, I don’t think anything has changed from whatever era as far as PC, Cancel culture and all that shxt, but social media serving the role of an amplifier.
Good observation. It seems like in the 80s you could criticize and ridicule gays with social impunity, but by the 90s it was common to hear something to the effect of "I don't care if they want to do their thing in private, I just dont want to see it". Now you are not even allowed (socially) to have a traditional Christian opinion on it.
Alan Sands Wtf is your point? You know there was also a time you could actually owned black people as slaves, now you can’t even call them the N word anymore. What’s the world coming to?
Years of brain washing from the medias… people get off your phone's or TV once in a while and experience the world with your own eyes and senses?? Wear a mask or don't? Just go outside. Stop fulfilling the prophesies the media is feeding you on a daily basis.
very well-spoken and sensible
*Chris Rock has a comedy bit about well spoken black people.*
This dude is 22 years old...I remeber when I was 22....crazy
WTF this kid is only 22?? He must be a savant!
I DON’T remember when I was 22!!! But I am sure I wasn’t this smart and nuanced...!
I've had someone say niggardly in my presence and I'm telling you, it FELT like there was something behind it, as if they were trying to get a rise out of me by using that word. Who uses a word from the year 1000 to describe stingy or miserly? I agree that people are overly sensitive these day but I promise you, someone has used that word with ill intent. And that's the problem, trying to figure out someone's intent.
If there is ill intent, then surely it is equivalent to a grown man passing gas trying to get a reaction from you.
Why not see such a person as too puny to even bother combing through their intent?
Exactly!!!! ..I thought the exact same thing when I heard him say that bullcrap. If you use the word "Niggardly" in this day and age, it's to cause racial uproar.
I agree that some people may use niggardly with the intent to have it received as a racial slur by whomever they are speaking to. This could be true whether the speaker even knows what the word niggardly means, or not. There are others who may like to use older styles of speaking or words simply to impress others with their vocabulary. These people may not even recognize any notion that the word might offend people of color. Then, you have people who use some other word, almost any word it seems these days, with no intent to offend anyone, and have it thrown back in their face as being racist or insensitive at the very least. I would say in some cases it would be alright to ask the speaker what meaning they intended to convey by using the word, or if they realize the word might be taken wrongly by some people. But, to accuse someone of racism, have them fired, or otherwise abuse and harass them for simply speaking a word is sheer nonsense. I might be offended if a black person referred to me as a cracker, or a redneck, for example, and that would be every bit as justified as for a black person hearing the N-word used to refer to them. But, the use of the word cracker could have many other meanings, and if you don't know for certain that it was used as a racial slur or epithet, you have no reason to be upset about it. Blacks (or whites) who condemn a white person for uttering the N-word regardless of how or why it was used, would be no different from me condemning a black person who said, "Would you please pass me the crackers," or "Have you been out in the sun a lot, you have an awfully red neck."
Also, it should not matter what the race of the speaker is regardless of what word we may be talking about. To support one person saying a word and condemn another for saying the same word, based on the race of the speaker is blatantly racist. It's no different than saying white people can vote and black people can't. We all have the right to vote, and we all have the right to free speech.
@@steveholman5978 I'm from England and have never heard anyone use that word and didn't even know the meaning until now (even elderly people). So, if someone uses it I'm just going to assume there is some sort of racial undertone too it or they're trying to hint/incite a reaction. It is a 1000 year old word so it's pretty word why someone would use that word. It's actually extremely weird to use that word, even if you are an older person.
I agree, we should view those people like that. It's just so sad that a person could have that instilled into them and it's also very sad that a person feels the need to say such a thing to try and prod a person or incite a reaction within them. I guess we could say, "such is life", but it doesn't have to be this way.
This is fye 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Here is why...he mentioned the thing of being scared to bring up the issue of violence among black men because there is a fear that it will reinforce a stereotype of black men having an inherent criminality! Great articulation!
This channel was ahead of its time. Too bad they only did a small handful of interviews before shutting down.
Imagine a world where no person is offended by words but only by actions. Wouldn't that take all the power away from these words?
I’m really thankful to have found Coleman. He has a eloquent way of precisely articulating some of the nuances surrounding racial subjects.
"Hypersensitive" in all contexts except when a Black person callously calls another Black person. Go figure.
Or even threatens another black person!
There are different views in the black community about using the 'N' word. Some (like me) do not use it or like hearing it while others use it freely 'claim it' or remove its historical sting - but we all (black folks, I mean) agree on one thing - IT IS NOT FOR WHITE FOLKS.
Sooooooo, go figure that.
@@andrepaige9669 Well that's just fuckin' racist.
@fynes leigh Are you sure there are still men? I thought nowadays we are all just on a spectrum.
Another great talk by Coleman.
The one thing that always makes me shake my head about the duality of the "N" word is - it is ok for folks within the black community to use the word, but it is not ok for anyone else to - or you are labeled a racist (even forgetting about context). It is maddening.
As a black person I find it ludicrous
@@neneodonkor I am a white man and I don't like the word. If the word is so bad, then NO ONE should use it. But to be subjective about who can use it just perpetuates the problem.
@Scorpio Rob N word is slur, racist insult. Context is paramount here. I fail to see justification to use it other than racially insult another black person. But you hear it everywhere, in tv, in radio, even little black kids in school are using it without realizing what’s behind. But they (and society) are immediately triggered when non-black person uses it no matter the context. And that’s just sanctimoniousness and being hypocrite.
@Scorpio Rob I hear what you are saying. People today, regardless of the color of your skin are living this experience. They are not living the experience of the past, they cannot, they were never there. Just as, we cannot be held accountable for the actions of others. We are all individuals and need to be held accountable for ourselves.
The issue I see with this word is, it is used as a woke tool to perpetuate a victimization narrative. Like I said in my post, if this word is so bad (and I agree that it is not a nice word) then why use it at all? If it has a connotation of repression, then one should be working to remove it from one's vocabulary - not pulling it out when it suites there agenda and using as a tool of manipulation.
It's not a part of my vocabulary but I'd say within the Black community itself it's more controversial than portrayed. Most Black people would never say it to or around their parents or grandparents. Like if I said that to my dad or my cousins to their parents they'd get slapped or at least cussed out. You'd never dare say it to an elder.
So much of my life has been proving I am NOT racist, sexist homophobe basically evil. Fed up. Well done, I now embrace it all. Robert Soles
I had to free myself from the power that word held over me. I grew to hate being moved to anger based on the whims of strangers, and so I dissected that word. I dissected my own relationship to that word: "why does it hurt to hear it used by non-blacks? Is the hurt a natural response of my nature as a black man? Or was I taught to be offended? What is the true meaning of the word anyway, and is it truth to my being?"
By examining these things I came to the realization that the harm of words MUST enter through the gate of my mind, and filter down to my heart. What is my filter which I use to judge a thing by? Is it society's standards and expectations of me? But I am the gate keeper to both mind and heart, and a man MUST rule over both. Therefore, to allow the N word to affect my being then I am no longer the master of my domain: you are! The one who uses the word. If I don't want then is the solution to destroy the N word from existence? No. It is a stepping stone by which WE must use to strengthen our hearts. It is a test given by life. It can be used to both elevate and abase. The choice is up to the individual.
I no longer take offense to hearing that word spoken by non-blacks, whether in offense or not. There's great liberty in this, as I've become a master and not a servant to the words of others. My emotions have been subdued, and I can argue without being overcome by the power of insults. I choose what to do with them, to be offended or not be offended. My eyes are no longer fixated on the past pain of black people as I walk forward. To be fixated on the past in a world where time marches forward IS a recipe for disaster. How can we hope to make progress while living looking through life's rearview mirror? The natural is a type/shadow of the mental, and there's a cliff up ahead, or light post at the very least.
In short, we are offended because we are weak. But it's because we are weak that we can overcome this and become strong.
Wow. Awesome post. I'm deeply moved. You sir or madam have stated very articulately what I only vaguely before understood. I learned something of great value today. Thanks and God bless.
He's got all the statistics and all of the questions and has made all of the necessary inquiries BUT NONE OF THE ANSWERS!
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I just made three comments. Each had the following form:
This is a test comment, it contains the word [expletive in quotes].
The expletives in question were the so called F-word, C-word, and N-word, but in the actually comments, each expletive was presented in full: i.e. the 4-letter word starting with the letter "f" and ending with the letter "k"; the 4-letter word starting with the letter "c" and ending with the letter "t"; and of course the 6-letter word starting with the letter "n" and ending with the letter "r". Notice that the first two comments have survived, but the last of the three has not.
Curiously, some comments further down do include the N-word (i.e. the actual six-letters mentioned above), so it's not clear what criteria are being used when censoring.
Language is the gateway from which thought flows. Being an irrational slave to “words” is a prerequisite to having one’s thoughts controlled. After that it’s all over.
Yes sir
I would love to hear Coleman discuss why he thinks the "N" word does not disappear from our lexicon. Who is primarily responsible for perpetuating its use?
I don't like the title, but the Intellectual Dark Web seems to have a new member. Can't wait to see where this gentleman goes with it. Very considerate and thought-out and articulate arguments, divorced from emotion.
This guy is, like, what, 20? Definitely a rising intellectual star.
Thank you for the quality content!
I’m curious to know if there was friction between these people and their work environment prior to their use of the “n word.” Were they looking for an excuse to fire them, or are we truly this irrational about the word? Context is always key, and sometimes there’s multiple layers.
That's a good point.🤔
I love this guy. he speaks in a very calm way and he has some great points.
I live in a city that is majority Black. I have heard the N word often, never from a white person, btw. I personally have never said it and have no desire to say it. I have never understood why, if it’s such a horrible word, some Black people say it so frequently. It has been explained to me but I still don’t understand why it’s ok.
I have also experienced very hostile pushback, including being called a racist for even asking the question.
Excellent interview...Thankyou for your well thought out opinion
My ninja Coleman. Very respectful tone he has.
Hes speaking the truth about violence in the black community,but when its used or said its usual said as a "see there violent "type people
Such a forbidden taboo word that can get you ostracized or fired. Yet Black Hip Hop artists persistently use it.
An underrated program. Thanks.
Lol he called the sensitivity around the word “irrational”, compared it to another affinity group then proceeded to say that it is “understandable. I don’t want to fight in yt comments but when I first watched this video I was blown away by how well he uses rhetoric that I forgot to listen to the substance. He’s a very smooth talker!
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Even if I like Crowder or Shapiro, I have to say that this man is on a different level here. He could go very well with Jordan Peterson. The two of them have real brains.
Imagine Peterson as President and Hughes as Vice President.
Peterson is Canadian.
@@herdenq "Imagine"
*Crowder and Shapiro have a clear bias that obscures their messages quite often. Also Ben talks too fast and Crowder tries to make everything funny.*
Devil's Advocate Correct. I also believe they are not part of a solution but more of a confrontation. We need sane people now who speak with reason AND the right goal in mind. It‘s not good enough to shit face your political opponents. You need to leave the door open to give them a way to change. I think people like Hughes are fantastic. He got the right intentions. He wants to fix something and not make it worse.
Hughes is a lot more calm and restrained in his demeanor
I’ve rarely come across such a brilliant mind... Coleman is a genius
Coleman Hughes for president. Highly intelligent man and speaks very articulately. Very interesting man to listen too
Reminds me of Monty Python: “He said Jehovah!”
It-is-a-word, Stop giving it so much power.
Lol well that’s not very practical. People give every word mining and react accordingly and sometimes it’s not just about the connotation, it’s the people using them and the context example is your mom saying you are handsome vs a Female vs a man. What I am trying to say is that there is nothing like it’s just a word.
I wish he'd focus his attention on solutions to problems affecting black people like the one he mentioned, rather than always complaining about the meta. Leading by example would probably be a more effective way of changing the discourse.
Remember the name because I guarantee you'll be hearing more from this guy in future. An intelligent, articulate, centre-left writer who can speak for the silent black majority without inflaming either side. Eventually the cream rises to the top, as will this guy.
“No one cares about context.” Absolutely.
Saying per-say one word is racist and allowing only own group to use it, then purposefully putting it into songs and culture and then calling people racist cause they want to use it too is like purposely keeping racism well and alive if they say its racist.
White guys says it: 2 hour podcast about why it's wrong
Rapper says it: record deal
Typical idiotic thoughtless comment from a moron the void of critical thought.
@craig rankine but why should anyone say it? Genuinely interested to hear why. Doesn't it have different connotations when black people use it?
Ive only just discovered Coleman Hughes but he seems like a smart level headed guy. Shame hes not heard more.
This is what's happened to Wendy Mesley from the CBC in Canada. In a meeting discussing racism, quoting another journalist, the quote of which included the 'n' word
Meanwhile rappers still use it everywhere.....
Daniel Barwatt no I think they get a pass because they are black...
Check out Tim Minchins Ginger song! Very clever!
Coleman talks like a prince
Just so we're clear....
You CAN say the n-word if you want.... But results may vary 💯
my nigga spittin facts
Just like any word. People can choose to be offended over a word or not.
6 languages and 4 degrees if we are acting as if every word exists in a vacuum, outside of culture, stigma & world view.... you’d be correct
6 languages and 4 degrees if it’s not derogatory, then why can’t people say it?
6 languages and 4 degrees you said there’s no need to say it because it isn’t derogatory. That makes no sense. That implies that if it were derogatory, people would need to say it.
I'm from Germany and I can tell you that the fixation on those words in the USA is soooooo much bigger than over here in Germany among Germans, Jews, foreigners and other groups. I guess we are more rational about it and are more likely to judge people by their intentions and actions rather than by their choice of words. This does not mean that we use racial slurs all the time by any means but if we talk about a certain word, we are "allowed to say it" without fearing repression from anybody.
Maybe because of the ever-present guilt we feel about WW2, we assume by default that nobody is really a racist until THEY clearly state so (which is not very hard to do). In the USA it seems that you are not allowed to decide about if you are a racist or not yourself, but rather it's being decided for you, forced on you. I think this trend is ridiculous and will eventually eat itself as people (hopefully!) grow wiser and will understand the stupidity of such nonlogical behaviour.
Anyways I wish you the best of luck with that! Seems like an unbearable situation in your otherwise beautiful country.
I live in Berlin since 2004. After spending time in NYC I can guarantee that the hysteria around language is not nearly as pronounced here as it is in the USA.
Congratulations on smashing that Mr. Hughes 👏🏽
0:37 the post-modern recipe: context doesn't matter.
Papa John's founder John Schnatter got railroaded 😕
If aliens came down to earth and asked us about this word, there would be no possible way to explain our feelings towards it coherently. It's simultaneously the most significant and feared word in the English language and yet used with complete abandon and lack of thought or consideration by the very people whom it is claimed it hurts the most. If this conversation was played to the aliens and then, before telling them that "n-word" means "nigger" you played them a handful of Hip-Hop albums they would not be able to guess that that's the word that was being discussed. Such a important, divisive, and apparently offensive word couldn't possibly be thrown around so casually by the very people whom it was invented to disparage. It's just not possible. And yet here we are, on this crazy planet with these crazy issues.
So.... you believe in Aliens too my "nigga" ??
ooooh they are going to crucify me for saying this:
I love the N-word! I love the swag of it! I've spoke it thousands of times, sung it, however never to -or referring to a person with African descent. I learned it through comedy (Murphy, Chappelle, Tucker, etc) and hip hop. I greet all my friends with it "what's up nigga?", when I'm surprised I'll say "nigga whaaaaaaaaa?" or "nigga daaaaaaamn!". For me, it has a whole different meaning. Meaning is arbitrary. I know in USA, African-descent people don't like to be addressed by it, so I never say it in front of them, but in private, or between friends... I love to say N-word!
Scummy vibes
As you should 😊
It's so cool to hear smart black people. because I'm not smart, or black.
Let me be perfectly clear, ladies and gentlemen. If these two did it afterwards I WOULD NOT be surprised.
He reminds me very much of John mcwhorter I'd love to see them talk together
Here it is ... ruclips.net/video/UPiNiTwf5bM/видео.html
I don’t get when people give their thoughts on a topic and immediately afterward the interviewer solicits their thoughts on that very topic.
Perfectly said.
I love how at first he refers to the CEO of Papa John´s as just "Papa John"
I will disappointed to find out that he was not named “Papa John” at birth.
It's all about value. If the history and system tells you you are not valued then life is valueless for many in a system that doesn't cater for their specific needs. And I don't mean handouts.
This guy is one of the smartest people on social media. All this sh*t is not about race, it is about ideology. He is operating many levels above most people.
Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughs are two intellectuals whose interviews are a listening joy.
They’re willing to face derision and criticism for maintaining their well informed views, which are neither conservative, nor progressive. They question many of the colloquialisms which are furthering social division instead of healing it.
Of course you do.... because they don't make whyte folks feel guilty about anything by not blaming them specifically for anything. If I was whyte, I'd love those two 🦝 too. 🤷🏾♂️
As an Englishman I'm mildly pleased that people prefer being described using words of English rather than Spanish origin. But totally amazed by the passion.
If I address someone as "sir" this could be a term of great respect or great contempt according to tone and context. I have no doubt that the N word can similarly be used as an insult and should not be. But to get that excited?
It seems to be a hare put up by people who intend no good to black people, but want to appear as though they do.
I am on the left and quite frankly I find this man insightful. I think he is what part of a narrative of what black and whites need to hear. You assume that all of us on the left are "bleeding hearts" but many of us are realists as well.
How do I get my students in high school to stop saying that word when they are saying it to each other. Black, white, hispanic, it doesn't matter. They all say it.
"Nigah" means "eyes" in Hindi language. We speak when flirting or singing normally
. btw I am from India. we have all the solutions in the world.
I say ANY word is up for grabs and it should be illegal to fire people over saying a word. Companies should not have that much power over people. Too sensitive is dangerous.
Words are only offensive if you choose to be offended. Words are just sounds. They can't physically hurt you.
i just wanted to say that Coleman's intelligent and rational insights on the 'n' word in America is neither left nor right. you don't have to be a right wing to agree with him/see his point and if you're left wing it won't make you any less left wing if you agree with him/see his point. but it sure will make you less of an idiot lol
"the unique history of racial terror around black people in this country" is one of the most elegant ways of phrasing the phenomenon I've ever heard.
He keeps throwing his "C"s up crip? lol
He better not sleep im freddy K
The former CEO of Papa John's, John Schnatter resigned for criticising the NFL for not doing more to stop players from taking a knee before games and the ensuing financial backlash. Also for saying (in the training call) that Colonel Sanders called blacks 'N' words (hinting that Colonel Sanders was not hurt by foing this) and the backlash from this as well.
As charged as the N word is, it is a "word", on the scale of the socialtle problems it gets far too much traction, and how the black community liberally use it justifies my stance.
Cool video dude, this guy is is a great speaker. What types of speakers or guests do you usually bring on? Or is the selection of speakers or guests for random.
Thanks for watching Richard! We have on guests from all walks of life, from a broad range of perspectives. We seek those who are very well versed in their area so that we can have as fruitful of a conversation as possible. As long as the topic is relevant to what's happening in the world today, we're pretty open!
@@exploringminds_ that's nice to hear. I couldn't help notice that your channel barely gets any views for the quality of it's production. How do you guys stay afloat, do you solely depend on donors and patreons, or is there substantial ad revenue generated from RUclips.
We just launched a couple months ago so we are definitely new and growing. We're lucky that our small team here possesses the skills needed to get this show up and running. The goal is to grow and expand the team/production to make the content as amazing and useful for you guys as possible.
@@exploringminds_ He's not much of a mind. White people will like it. Good for You. Is it fun to spread racism around?
BrainXTC you’re totally angry
Regardless of race, history or politics, if you remove the notion of context from language, then language doesn't work.
You know, It-Which-Must-Not-Be-Said...
Let’s be honest about the n word: it pretty much had lost all it’s potency (just like the f word today) so it had to be dragged up in a fake outrage sort of way. Also: complete double standard about who can say it. If it’s so bad, NO ONE should be allowed to say it, period. But the fact that Blacks use it all the time proves my first point: it has lost it’s offensiveness.
Mr. Schnatter was upset because he said that the players taking a knee were hurting his pizza sales.
The hyper-sensitivity around the original word is absolutely justified. The sensitivity around the n-word with the 'A' ending is understandable, but the A-ending is overblown and the entire world is numb to it. It is now in everybody's vocabulary (of every color) because it has been intentionally sold a billion times over in songs. A large section of Black America has intentionally monetized the word in music and comedy specials and treats it like a privileged prized investment.
Since the beginning of time humans have been singing along to the songs they like. All humans do this. It is basic human nature. There are now entire generations of people of all colors listening to the radio, RUclips, Spotify, etc. who have grown up from the day they were children having this word blasted into their ears. It's all they know. No one person or group can control it at this point. Pandoras box has opened. The cat is out of the bag...
This guy speaks the truth.
Actually Hughes is wrong about (Papa) John Schnatter. The context in which the word was used is different than what Hughes claims. And, more importantly, it's part of a larger issue in which Schnatter criticized the NFL because it didn't crack down on players kneeling, which was hurting ratings, and in turn, Papa John's business, so he says.
Curious to hear his thoughts on how certain races and cultures have largely overcome the same injustices that blacks seem to maintain a position of oppressed and treated unfairly. Race relations seem to be going backwards as a result of black-centric perceived inequality.
Also, the host kinda reminds me of Renee Zellweger.
You should check this out. He's got a lot more good stuff to say: ruclips.net/video/gqtZTMQiupg/видео.html
LOL. Have Native Americans overcome? No one has been more mistreated than Black people or Native Americans.
@Irish Jester You don't enough about jim crow laws to make that ignorant statement.
@@brainxtc2171 Actually, that’s pretty ignorant from you…throughout the history there have been plenty society’s where being a slave were horrible fate. And some society’s not so long ago, where you don’t even have to be slave at all to be systematically decimated. To say Jim Crow laws were worst in all of mankind history is pretty ignorant and don’t get me wrong, it was pretty horrible and dark times for black community, but you cannot make that statement without ignoring historic facts...
Coleman is heroic.
Negus: Ethiopian word for king
The people were convinced that the Negus was crazy. 😂
It's funny how you can literally use any other vulgar word and no-one bats an eye, but the N-word is off limits. Why is that?
Legalism of taboo orthodoxies.
It's called taking the power back
It's the history associated with it. The genocide and dehumanization of millions of black people, the word was used as a slur against these people. It wasn't arbitrarily made off-limits.
It's the least we could do.
@@Morgue12free o u believe all that?
@@nycwizrd8348 What do you believe?
There's a lot of sensitivity behind racism and antisemitism. Talking about certain issues is problematic as it triggers and prevents us from discussing concerns over murders in the black community or around the Gaza strip #exploringminds
Our word is weird. Acting? Say whatever you want. Anywhere else, you are gone.
There’s a story in my (white) family of how a white woman kept using the word around her black coworker. The black woman tolerated it for only so long, and snapped one day. She trapped the bigot’s head in a door with the implicit threat of causing significant pain and said, “You don’t have to be black to be a n-.” She let the white woman go, and neither party reported any problems after.
I always wondered if the event really happened as my grandfather described, but his takeaway was pretty clear. He admired the black woman for standing up for herself and took the contradiction of the racial coding of the word to heart. He decided she was right, that “n-“ isn’t identity, but it’s behavior which means choice, which means anyone can or cannot be one. Of course he’s white and I’m white so I don’t know if this is a correct interpretation of the word. I definitely know there’s more to it. However, it is foundational to the way I consciously understand race.
Apologies for length. I think a lot of us, on all sides of the political & social spectrums are doing a lot of soul searching on the subject. Sometimes it helps to think aloud.
I’m honestly surprised their hasn’t been an uproar of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I like Coleman and agree with a lot of what he says. I definitely think he should have a bigger platform than Al Sharpton or Candice Owens. But, I disagree with him here. You can allude to the word without saying it. If you say the N word people know what you're talking about.
There's a rationale behind what Coleman Hughes is saying, and I agree that context matters with any use of language. I don't view the Papa John's example as being the same as Michael Richards, obviously.
That being said, as a white person, I try to avoid using that word at all. It has a tendency to bring a chill to a room, especially when used by someone who looks like me, and for very understandable historical reasons. The problem with removing stigma around the word is that I think it might eventually ennoble non-black people to use in contexts that are much more sinister. I prefer the status quo far and away over that.