The moment you realize that Asgore destroys your mercy button not because he doesn’t want you to escape, he did it because he doesn’t feel like he deserves mercy!
Details I noticed about Asgore: -His name is always mentioned in yellow by the characters' dialogue, meaning if the mercy button wasnt destroyed he would have been spared immediately. -His battle sprite doesn't stare at you unlike the others, and his attacks seem to be all around the play area -He holds his trident backwards because he is used to stabbing much smaller targets. -He is aware of the fact that you can save and reload as you can see from the ACT button. -He shows you his attack patterns when using his trident instead of swinging randomly. -He could have absorbed the human souls because he needs to anyway but chose not to. These are the only details I can think of right now though so might add more. Thanks for reading :)
@@mayocult2025 because sans is a personification of revenge, attacks are very chaotic and there's no some extra foreshadowing tip to exade for a player, if you're talking about why asgore and not sans
@@mayocult2025 because sans violates every single game design principle for the sake of making the player mad (to be fair it was really funny) while asgore doesnt violate every single game design principle
This fight is so cleverly made. Not only does it offer a fun and interesting challenge, but the fight and its mechanics also carry so much narrative meaning. He's a broken old man, a shadow of his former self, and the mechanics of the fight reflect that. Lemme explain why: First of all, lets start with the most obvious one: Him destroying the mercy button. There are two primary reasons for this: 1) His unbearable guilt. He thinks he doesn't deserve mercy after all the terrible things he has done to save his kingdom. 2) He knows that if the human actually offered him mercy, his heart would be swayed and he couldn't force himself to kill them anymore. His name would've been yellow from the start. Undyne also mentioned that when she was younger, she challenged Asgore to a duel, but "couldn't land a single hit on him" and that he did not fight back. He just evaded her attacks until she gave up. This implies that, just like Sans, Asgore may have the ability to dodge, if he wanted to... and yet we never see him do it in this fight. He just takes blow after blow without ever even so much as trying to evade Frisk's attacks. And while we're at it... Lets talk about his attacks. Almost none of them are aimed directly at the player, and his sprite is shown constantly looking down to the floor. He can't even bring himself to look at the human because he knows that if he did, the guilt would crush him since they remind him of his own children. Also, remember those attacks where his eyes flash before he swings his trident? Its implied those are his tears reflecting the color of his next attack. He's crying during the fight. Thats not all though. Similar to Toriel, none of the attacks will instantly kill the human, but only set them down to one HP 1. Only the next attack will kill them. Thats because he's holding back and has to actively force himself to deal the final blow. This brings me to his "Talk" options in the "Act" menu. The first three times you talk to him, there will be unique responses. Talk 1: "You quietly tell ASGORE you don't want to fight him. His hands tremble for a moment." Talk 2: "You tell ASGORE that you don't want to fight him. His breathing gets funny for a moment." Talk 3: "You firmly tell ASGORE to STOP fighting. Recollection flashes in his eyes..." The third option will cause both his defense and his attack to drop, as at this point, he has to actively force himself to continue fighting. But there's a way to lower his stats even further. If you kept Toriel's butterscotch pie from the beginning of the game and use it during this fight, he will be reminded of the old times with his wife and children, and his attack and defense will drop even lower. All of this aswell as the fact that he is capable of destroying the buttons but chose to destroy only the mercy button instead of the fight button (or both) shows how little he actually wants to win this fight. Had he chosen to destroy the fight button aswell, Frisk would've been left defenseless and he could've easily won this fight. But he didn't. Because this isn't something he _wants to_ do, but something he _has to_ do. Every time he looks at Frisk, he's reminded of his own children. He so badly wants to stop all this fighting, find his wife and live together with her and the human. But he can't. He has to do this, for his kingdom. For his people, that placed what little hope they had left after the humans sealed them underground in him. For them he chooses to carry this burden, to commit these horrible atrocities even if it ends up destroying him. Thats one side of his character. The other is a broken old man, a shadow of his former self and a good person that was forced to do one evil deed too many. One that sacrificed everything he ever cared about for the greater good, who takes blow after blow and even commits suicide in one ending because he, too, believes he is a monster that deserves to be punished. Regarding that: Did you know that "Asgore Dreemurr" is an anagram? If you re-arrange the letters, it spells "Sage or Murderer." And if you ask me, that question perfectly encapsulates his entire character. Edit: Grammar
Definitely not just you. As asgore is the final boss, I it made me king of sad to think that he is the last monster(probably not) left. And also, I at this point you know that the game is ending. And another note: he wanted to be with his family again. And I admire that. Not like underlust sans though... The cr eaters of that has a mental problem.
I think the point was that he wanted it to be either him or the player that died. He wanted to at least grant the player some form of mercy by having the possibility of killing him, or rather he probably rather die than kill another kid, if i was in his shoes, death wouldn't be such a bad alternative
I know this is a little funny haha moment but, it wouldn’t be fair and I bet asgore would feel bad cause he’s such a nice guy/monster and asgore probably wanted a little bit of a challenge because in the undertale universe it’s been practically a decade since they’ve seen another human
Asgore is the most tragically real character ive ever seen. Some have come close, but none have ever made me as sad as Asgore does. Truly the best character in Undertale
@@realparispigeon9059 i think people say sans is the bast is just bcus of his theme speaking of his theme.... uhhhh.... Edit: (Yall ik we all can have different but i said i think bcus i was not sure abt that fact yall)
I feel like we forget how badass Asgore was now that his most recent appearances have been him begging sans for free pickles and ostensibly living in a the attic of a garden supplies store.
The story will inevitably get dark and I believe Asgore will show his courageous side of his personality in later chapters. What Toby is setting up between all the family members... Something special is brewing.
0:51 always gives me goosebumps, especially while fighting him. Asgore's theme is really amazing and it feels even better to think that he doesn't want to fight us
@@Utilisateur8855 bergentruckung is the intro, the battle theme itself is called ASGORE Idk why I think it wouldve been better if bergentruckung was the name of the theme itself by having both the intro and theme together and not have them be seperate soundtracks
@@leedlelel2373 It had to be two separate themes so ASGORE could be put in loop during the fight and not have the theme start all over again from the intro to the ecstatic part
Asgore Is extremely underrated, like, he has character development if you think it for a second. Because Humans trapped them in the underground, and the only way they figured it out on how to escape, was actually, killing the human children to set them free. It's an atrocious act that even Toriel can't spare from him, but probably the best action to take, it's really heavy to take such ways, but in the end, he stayed loyal to his purpose, set his people free. His theme kinda represents it though, you can hear when the music gets louder and hits, and in the final keeps being loud but still "majestic" or "triumphant", it's not that the decisions he has taken were the best, but you can neither judge him for it. Your son's both die, and your loved one gets away from you because of your decisions. In normal circumstances it would be ok to do that, but not when he is a King. He need to guide his people, and try make them a brighter future, and that's what he did, even with the heaviness of his "sins", he had to do it, not for himself, but for his own people. The weight of the crown is one that is specifically hard to handle, you don't count on 1 or 3 people, there's an entire city you must protect, and let me tell ya that indeed, that's a lot of pressure. The circumstances that he was with Toriel, or his sons, didn't help, but yet as I clarify earlier, he did it for the monsters. He carried his sins to set all of the others free. And because of that, he is, and will be a true king.
Only imagine being asgore for one second, his life is really tragic, he literally lost his two sons and wife in a short period of time, also he lost a war and that cause that all his kingdom goes to the underground, and also he see many of his soldiers and friends die in the war with the humans, i think that asgore is just a big depressed old man that needs a hug and a cup of tea
@@SigusmundSiggy No one can deny his crimes, but when he searches for the last soul, he is exhausted, depressed and alone. I am not going to deny the fact that he killed 6 children, but deep down he was looking for a way to break the barrier and free his people, something that a king in that situation would do to improve the quality of life of his inhabitants.
@@AndrebillYeah, what he did was horrible and kinda stupid, but I think he can be forgiven considering that he doesn't want to kill anyone else, yet he has to in order to keep his people's hopes up with breaking the barrier (from what I think, not certain,) but it's completely understandable if anyone thinks otherwise.
@@cringelord6068i completely agree with you. Also i want to say that what Toriel did is really horrible, but understandable, because she dont want that his husband take the life of more people, but the terrible part (for me) is when she left Asgore, that kind of toxic behaviour, instead of understand the difficult situation that his husband was in to, she simply leave him, knowing that he probably dont want to kill anyone, but yeah i understand Toriel because when you have stressfull situations, you make very big and stupid mistakes
@@Andrebill i honestly agree-i mean toriel could of had a discussion with asgore rather than just leave immediately since she should have understood that asgore acted irrationally due to anger, especially because she was his wife Both of the goats are kinda in the wrong
If you fight him with a low LV, I honestly wouldn't call him "easy". He's more or less tied with Muffet for second hardest boss in the game. His attacks are easier to avoid than hers but the fight also lasts longer due to his huge amount of HP and the fact that he doesn't just decide to call off the fight like Muffet does. The only boss that's harder on the normal route is Mettaton.
@@horrorsans7560 no mercy for asgore cuz he killed 6 humans and wants to destroy humanity No mercy for frisk cuz asgore promised to kill him and if he kills asgore the hole underground will lose hope again and get trapped down forever
1:51 this part, i don't know how to describe it but it sounds so majestic and tragic for me, there's something in the background beat, I have my eyes watery and all I love this game dude
This song is actually really deep. It has traces of Toriel's theme, but Toriel's theme has no traces of Asgore's theme. It shows that Toriel has completely cast Asgore out of her life, but Asgore still cares about Toriel. To be honest, I'm not suprised, Toby Fox hides lots of random crap everywhere
Fun fact Tories Is trying to plant flowers in her garden that’s asgore hobby If you don’t know where to look it’s in a drawer and asgore If you check his trash can He has a broken recipe for butterscotch pie
Asgore is so underrated compared to other characters. He is a grizzled old warrior who fights back his own demons mid-battle and will not except mercy. Not because he doesn’t want to accept lose, but because he doesn’t wish to live.
Something I've always wondered about is why the part at 0:51 repeats so many times. So I started to count, and concluded that same part repeats itself 6 times. The part after that, that would be the 7th, at 1:41, starts with a single note in a higher tone, cutting through the agitated beat of the other parts and introducing a slower pace. The pace of this part is changed back to a more agitated one at 1:48. Now, thinking of the story of the game, the 0:51 part, repeated 6 times, can represent each human he killed so far. And, since Frisk (the player) is supposed to be the 7th human, the 1:41 would represent this current battle, but the tone is different. It can be a represention how tired and guilty Asgore is from all the bloodshed he caused, but he's sure he has no other choice in this battle with Frisk, and thus the 1:48 part
I first discovered Undertale through this piece of music. While watching someone fight Asgore on a livestream, I found myself completely captivated by the background music. Over the years, I have listened to this piece every day, and it is so rich and layered that the intro alone contains the melody of the chorus. Especially the part at 0:29, with the soaring strings accompanying the melody, always brings tears to my eyes. The piece itself also contains four distinct melodies and In my personal opinion that correspond to the stages of emotional growth in a person's life. The beginning 0:17 represents the realization of the need to face the harsh reality of having to kill one's own self, not in a physical sense, but in a spiritual sense. The first section 0:51 depicts the long period of self-doubt and struggle, and as a result, this section is the longest one. The second section 1:49 represents taking action, no longer hesitating, and praying for forgiveness, welcoming everything that is to come since there is nothing left to lose(your filled with determination). The ending 2:07 represents the relief of being freed from the burden, got free, reborn,the healing of wounds, and continuing to grow and move forward. The bass throughout the entire piece is also very rich, and in my personal opinion, this is the greatest piece of music in Undertale.
Asgore Dreemurr. Asgore is an anagram of Aegros, latin for reluctant. Dreemurr is an anagram of murderer. Asgore Dreemurr is an anagram of "Sage or murderer" as well as "Reluctant murderer". If that's not an excellent name, I don't know what is (also Bergentrückung, the name of his theme, means mountain rapture as well as king of the mountain for anyone wondering)
@@SuperBliter23123 mb, since a "mountain rapture" in folktale usually refers to the trope of "the king of the mountain", I thought it was pretty much the same. My bad
On top of all of this, his (now ex)wife, toriel's name is a play on tutorial, and their son - Asriel Dreemurr is not only an anagram for Serial Murderer, but also a combination of his parents' names, AND an anagram of Ralsei, who was based on a character called Rals, with -ei being added later to connect him to asriel. Toby went all in on these anagrams
undertale is underrated edit: only knew because of a video where somebody plays video game music on piano (from least popular to most) undertale was first. having 1M+ downloads
This is actually my favorite battle of Undertale and sadly it's totally underrated. At this moment in the story we are introduced to the character that we are warned during all our journey. Our first thought should be that maybe this is the final boss, but then we realize that this character really doesn't want to fight and we get this strange feeling when the battle begins. At the same time, Toby challenges the player removing the main mechanic that we used during all the game so far and if that wasn't enough, we get another amazing piece of music that really conveys the climax tension in this battle. Storytelling, music and gameplay merge together here in a brilliant way and it just amaze me how talented Toby was to create this moment.
I really, really wish we got to see Asgore at full power. Let's look at some details. He was a warrior, king, and probably main target of the humans during the war. Remember, a single human soul is as powerful as every monster in the underground's put together. This man fought against probably tens of thousands of humans as the main target and a front line fighter, AND HE LIVED. He was barely even scathed. He made sure that the monsters were only pushed back. He's got armor on him and a trident, which are both probably very powerful. He was king of the monsters, and held that title. When we fight him, he's got an actually rather hard battle, and pretty good stats, 80 ATK and 80 DEF. Remember, this is him, yet older, scarred, depressed, and probably suicidal. He doesn't even want himself to win, and he doesn't think he deserves mercy. Full power Asgore? Definitely the hardest fight. By far. Probs like a kajillion attack and defense. Oh yeah, and he had the six human souls. If he used those, he would literally not be beatable. He deserves more credit. Now he's just some old man living in the attic of his shop.
most likely more powerful than sans too and not even talking about "dodge" stuff that is... just a joke sans does (after all to be honest... is not very impressive really since its same as sans having very high hp...high defenses are same as dodge) another reminder: he is stronger than Udyne. Sure hero undyne will be swiping floor with old man asgore easly but thats Undyne at its peak... forcefully too as she is literally dying of from her own power. Asgore? You are right there was a reason humans didn't kill every single monster. What I imagine is he took the mountain to take defensive stance once realized he is losing battle and held the line. He was so brutal humans had to seal mountain with a barrier to end the war... that guy was stronger than any human most likely... he is an exception to monsters now? He can't even look at your face as you fight. His eyes allways shadowed by his regrets not only that but he also never lost to flowey, a creature made of determination with abilty to restart Flowey had infinite amount of chance to learn his every move and perfectly counter him but he out matched him all the time... why? Because aganist Flowey there was no guilt of killing a child, its a monster challanging him... he can fight will his full wrath without thinking about past crimes... its not a innocent child he is facing, its a monster flower that trying to take his life now... no mercy. He was literally Sans to Flowey... "Hardest boss in the game"
There’s also the fact that he looks down for the battle, which means his attacks are thrown out randomly, if he was looking and therefore able to direct attacks he’d be even more powerful
@@robertmiller7921Underrated songs: Asgore Death By Glamour Heartache Hopes and Dreams (though is well known, people would rather like Megalovania than this song)
Undertale's songs always come at the right time, this one hits the heart during the last battle against Asgore. *You feel the drain coursing through your body... it fills you with DETERMINATION.*
Sans: im facing a megalomaniac with incredible powers so i'll call my theme "Megalovania". Toriel: I hate the idea of killing humans, it gives me a "Heartache" Undyne: I hate humans and i will hunt down all of them for the greater good of monsterkind, thats why my theme should be called "Spear Of Justice". Flowey: **this is "Your Best Nightmare"... YOU'LL NEVER WAKE UP FROM."** Asgore: ASGORE IS ASGORE.
I love how this sounds intimating when first heard, fitting for a boss level. But after figuring out the whole story, you realize that it's intended more for Asgore, not for the player. The incredulous willpower he needed to move forward is captured in this music.
Vincent Mah In general he's super underrated, he's one of the best characters in the game in my opinion. That run where he kills himself at the end is super sad too..
This has to be above Megalovania for me, but below Hopes and Dreams/SAVE the World. All three of them are awesome themes and greatest boss fights in their own path. I'm sorry but I truly did not like Photoshop Flowey at all or his theme but that's just me.
Creeperinside Link Photoshop Flowey’s theme was effective at conveying the chaos he wields and the human souls attempting to help you, but it’s not exactly a nice song to listen too and the boss fight itself doesn’t compare to Asriel Sand Asgore or Undyne the Undying.
It's theorized that the reason he destroys the mercy button is because normally, his name would automatically be yellow. Thus allowing you to spare him immediately, and thus be capable of ending the fight entirely. Tho it could also be because of the fact that for the both of you, this is a go-for-broke final battle in your eyes: if you beat him, you take his soul and pass through the barrier. You go home. But if he wins, he gets the final soul he needs to break through the barrier, and the monsters can be free again. Either way, it's a moment of desperation on both sides with high stakes.
0:25 - 0:33 is my favorite part. It just makes me feel really happy and sad at the same time, which just fits with the idea that even though Frisk is happy to go to the surface, he has to do it in the most difficult and sad way.
cuz that's what this is, it's the end of your journey, you're finally going home, but that also means you're gonna leave all your friends behind to die in the underground, this theme only stops being sad once you're in the true pacifist, where you can save everyone and this little part becomes less of a "sad happiness" and more of a hope song, you hear more the happy part of the song when you're feeling good when you're neutral you can hear both sad and happy in this little part and in the song as a whole so you get mixed feelings as if you're doing something you must do/said you're to do but also that just feels wrong, this what both you(frisk) and asgore are feeling
@@Deamons64 That's not what it means, King beneath the Mountain would translate to "König unterm (unter dem) Berg". So german wikipedia says that basically the myth of Bergentrückung means that people do not die but move on to a place beneath the mountains, a underworld so to speak. See a TALE that plays beneath a mountain in the UNDER world? Berg = Mountain / Entrückung (entrücken: verb) = to move on HOWEVER this myth was usually attributed to kings so your first translation while wrong was somewhat technically correct if you stretch it. Hope that was interesting...
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Asgore in pacifist - let's fight Asgore in neutral - let's fight Asgore in genocide - would you like some tea EDIT: kinda forgot this comment existed (insert obnoxious message of me thanking people for likes)
I'm glad that, coming to this video, there's still people who love Asgore. He gets so much unwarranted hate for trying to be a king for his people. Toriel gets to live in the ruins with no responsibility to anyone but herself (and the children that maybe fall down once in a while) while Asgore carries the hopes and dreams (no pun intended) of the entire Underground as he's suffering for his brash actions in a fit of emotions. Goat Dad deserves happiness. It's kind of sad seeing how lonely he seems to be in the DeltaRune series, I hope he moves on from Toriel and finds happiness without her.
@@TheChildofAuraReborn Undertale is the game where the correct thing to do when a giant frog tries to murder you is to simply talk to it, so maybe Toby's very warped understanding of giving the other face means that all rationality behind Asgore's actions might just be irrelevant to the story. Based on all the evidence of all of Toby Fox's games, Asgore is supposed to simply be 100% wrong and doesn't deserve any sympathy for killing children, no matter the context.
2:06 this part never fails to bring me chills, his theme is amazing and the fact that THIS fragment is in the theme is perfect. When you get a game over and realize that he despite all he’s gone through and has done for the monsters(his people), he as well is rooting for you from his voice calling for you not to give up. It was so masterful to add it to his fight scene.
It reminds me of super smash bros ultimate, and I don’t know why. Also, I’m 100% sure that gameover text is a fragment of the first fallen child’s memory, that somehow Frisk has access to
Asgore destroys the MERCY button because he knows you could spare him with that. He doesn't think he deserves mercy; he even kills himself so you can have his soul if you do two neutral routes in a row and spare him. ARE YOU SAD YET?????
@@rapogirl1391 yep when u defeat omega flowey and go to your save file withouth resetting he kills himself and flowey dont let you spare him Edit: i mean take his soul.
The Underhammer, asgore destroys the mercy button because sparing him will make you look nice, and chara acted nice but she killed asriel, so he’s just learning from his past mistakes, YOU STUPID!!!!
Asgore when we first met him: A good man forcing himself to commit a horrible deed under the belief that it's the only way to bring salvation to his people. Asgore now: *EGGS-HUSBAND* God bless, Toby.
@@n3harb I personally think that Noelle had something to do with Dess disappearing. Noelle's mother is really harsh on her, but why? I think it's because Noelle had somehow influenced December's disappearance. Maybe she was manipulated, framed, or actually did something wrong. She shivers at the thought of Dess, so maybe she might've burst out at Dess for something, maybe she lost something in the woods, was too afraid to get it, so Dess had to (get the reference?) and she never saw Dess again. Maybe someone told her mother that Noelle did something bad to Dess and Dess ran away. Who knows Or Dess is not alive
When you meet Agore and see him looking harmless but then he takes his cape off looking like a demon and breaking the mercy button. You will only experience once in life.
Asgore theme and fight are my favorites of the entire game, because: 1-Asgore breaks all expectations we had on him. in every dialogue, his name appears in red, which tries to create an image that he is mean and have to be feared. but when you first meet him, you can see he is an awesome and caring guy, which makes me go to: 2-He doesn't want to kill you, he doesn't want to take your soul, but that is the only thing he can do for his kingdom and people. some people really hate him because of that(i don't judge, what he did is really wrong), but don't try to see by his perspective. he doesn't want to hurt anybody, he just want people to have the freedom they always dreamed. you can see it when you use TALK and says that you don't wanna fight. he nods sadly because he doesn't want to fight too. 3-He thinks he is unforgivable. he even recognises, in True Pacifist Route, that his actions were horrible. he destroys your mercy button, because he thinks he doesn't deserve mercy at all. but he wants to redeem himself, because he loves his family and people. his theme even has a Toriel's theme leitmotif to proof it. anyway, this was long. hope u didn't get bored. and sorry if something is not written right, im brazilian.
I love this song man. It’s such a good send off to the neutral route and made me really sad doing what I knew was wrong. Definitely one of the few moments in a game where I wish I could experience it for the first time again.
fantastic music, really struck a chord in my playthrough of the game... i almost didnt want to cut out moments of me tearing up. the determination to spare everyone and being somewhat gaslight into actually attacking for the first time was so profoundly depressing. On top of this track which felt like a successor to Heartache that more is on the line and of course attacking someone you dont really want to considering EVERYONE in the underground thinks of asgore as a softy, the build up was PERFECT.
Bro heartache part 1 repeats 6 times, it can also represent the 6 humans he killed. This isn't my comment, someone else commented this and I'm using that here
Personal theory ahead: I think this song represents Asgore's life, and the different parts of it. It starts off peaceful, a little strange. This is his childhood. It then gets a little more intense and complicated t 0:16, signifying adulthood. At 0:50, he meets Toriel. This is why this part sounds like Toriel's theme, Heartache. As this part progresses, it becomes more complex and adds some background tracks. The background tracks are the kid that he has with Toriel, Asriel, and later, Chara. At 1:41, the music slows. This is the day that Chara and Asriel die, and Toriel divorces him. After this, the events of the game happen and in the neutral ending, you have a big fight with him. This is at 1:49, the most intense part of the song. It also brings back the Toriel, Asriel, and Chara tracks because this is what he is thinking about as he fights you. This is who he is fighting for. Though we know at 2:06, you prevail, and Asgore dies. This is why the music sounds like the determination theme. It's his game over.
@@pennywise8994 It would be pretty funny and not the first time something like this happens. But Toby fox has shown, that he knows how to put together songs that add to the story, if not tell their own in the context of the game, so it's not that far off a stretch. Otherwise, I believe there's still value in finding your own meaning in a work of art. That's what art is for in the end.
Nobody's gonna read this but meh. I introduced undertale to my mother and she loved it! When we got to this fight, both of us almost cry at the end, he just wanted to be happy with a family but flowey just killed him right away, I think my mother said "you stupid flower how evil can you be", she also loved the soundtrack, the tragedy part of it but also the beauty ans majesty it gets after that. I'm so happy that I can share the emotions I felt with undertale with my mother :')
@@ok-pm4ck indeed, I want her to continue but, my mother thinks that flowey is lying, about alphys being the key for the true ending, but she accepted to give him an opportunity, one of these days we are gonna continue the game :D
This song is perfect to representing Asgore as a Royal King. It feels like i'm in the middle of the sunset and met someone who wants to fight me as a heroic duel
Asgore: Florida man kills 6 children after his wife divorced him. Atempts to break the mexican border. undyne:” lady enraged and attempted murder to a child that burned down her house. sans: lazy man with ak-47 is on the loose. papyrus: man happy with murderer even though the murderer tried to kill him. mettaton ex: dancing celebrity invites kid to join his dancing. Toriel: overprotective mother refuses to let kid out of house. Muffet: lady demands kid to pay a thousand dollars for a donut. Flowey: man arrested because he taught a child that bullets are “friendliness pellets”.
suprised that no one really talks about how 2:06 is the game over theme referencing how asgore is the one that keeps encouraging you each time you die (most of the time at least)
The drop at 1:51 is my favorite part of the song. A huge epic crescendo complimenting the intensity of the fight and leading to the somber "Determination" section.
Yeah basically he realise the you living underground just wouldn't work and that toriel doesn't like him anymore so he kill himself so you can take his soul and go to the surface... but flowey destroy the soul.
Honestly, I think big part of why flowey/Asriel's big final fight works so well despite being so ridiculously long and difficult is because you really don't expect it at all. Asgore's fight was so goddamn good, emotional, epic and satisfactory that I legit thought it was straight up the end, and then BAM you get a cool ass cherry on the cake with an extra hour or so of gameplay out of nowhere. Beautiful game.
It hits me hard to know that Asgore attacks barely point at you and instead they go all over the room because he is not watching, he just send attacks to you hoping to hit you cause he does not want to see
*(A stranger light fills the room.) *(Twilight is shinning through the barrier.) *(It seem your journey is finally over.) *(You’re filled with DETERMINATION.)
The moment you realize that Asgore destroys your mercy button not because he doesn’t want you to escape, he did it because he doesn’t feel like he deserves mercy!
Damn that Deep
also its supported by how he can't bear to look at you as he attacks. he can't bring himself to kill you, he does it for others.
@@rappsnitching I suppose "he has others do it for him" would be a better option.
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Details I noticed about Asgore:
-His name is always mentioned in yellow by the characters' dialogue, meaning if the mercy button wasnt destroyed he would have been spared immediately.
-His battle sprite doesn't stare at you unlike the others, and his attacks seem to be all around the play area
-He holds his trident backwards because he is used to stabbing much smaller targets.
-He is aware of the fact that you can save and reload as you can see from the ACT button.
-He shows you his attack patterns when using his trident instead of swinging randomly.
-He could have absorbed the human souls because he needs to anyway but chose not to.
These are the only details I can think of right now though so might add more. Thanks for reading :)
Wow you are a genius
Correct, but spoiling attack patterns is more like a game convention
@@doubleking1350 This is Toby Fox we're talking about, plus why would he do it with Asgore and not Sans for example
@@mayocult2025 because sans is a personification of revenge, attacks are very chaotic and there's no some extra foreshadowing tip to exade for a player, if you're talking about why asgore and not sans
@@mayocult2025 because sans violates every single game design principle for the sake of making the player mad (to be fair it was really funny) while asgore doesnt violate every single game design principle
This fight is so cleverly made. Not only does it offer a fun and interesting challenge, but the fight and its mechanics also carry so much narrative meaning. He's a broken old man, a shadow of his former self, and the mechanics of the fight reflect that. Lemme explain why:
First of all, lets start with the most obvious one: Him destroying the mercy button. There are two primary reasons for this:
1) His unbearable guilt. He thinks he doesn't deserve mercy after all the terrible things he has done to save his kingdom.
2) He knows that if the human actually offered him mercy, his heart would be swayed and he couldn't force himself to kill them anymore. His name would've been yellow from the start.
Undyne also mentioned that when she was younger, she challenged Asgore to a duel, but "couldn't land a single hit on him" and that he did not fight back. He just evaded her attacks until she gave up. This implies that, just like Sans, Asgore may have the ability to dodge, if he wanted to... and yet we never see him do it in this fight. He just takes blow after blow without ever even so much as trying to evade Frisk's attacks. And while we're at it...
Lets talk about his attacks. Almost none of them are aimed directly at the player, and his sprite is shown constantly looking down to the floor. He can't even bring himself to look at the human because he knows that if he did, the guilt would crush him since they remind him of his own children. Also, remember those attacks where his eyes flash before he swings his trident? Its implied those are his tears reflecting the color of his next attack. He's crying during the fight.
Thats not all though. Similar to Toriel, none of the attacks will instantly kill the human, but only set them down to one HP 1. Only the next attack will kill them. Thats because he's holding back and has to actively force himself to deal the final blow.
This brings me to his "Talk" options in the "Act" menu. The first three times you talk to him, there will be unique responses.
Talk 1: "You quietly tell ASGORE you don't want to fight him. His hands tremble for a moment."
Talk 2: "You tell ASGORE that you don't want to fight him. His breathing gets funny for a moment."
Talk 3: "You firmly tell ASGORE to STOP fighting. Recollection flashes in his eyes..."
The third option will cause both his defense and his attack to drop, as at this point, he has to actively force himself to continue fighting.
But there's a way to lower his stats even further. If you kept Toriel's butterscotch pie from the beginning of the game and use it during this fight, he will be reminded of the old times with his wife and children, and his attack and defense will drop even lower.
All of this aswell as the fact that he is capable of destroying the buttons but chose to destroy only the mercy button instead of the fight button (or both) shows how little he actually wants to win this fight. Had he chosen to destroy the fight button aswell, Frisk would've been left defenseless and he could've easily won this fight.
But he didn't. Because this isn't something he _wants to_ do, but something he _has to_ do. Every time he looks at Frisk, he's reminded of his own children. He so badly wants to stop all this fighting, find his wife and live together with her and the human. But he can't. He has to do this, for his kingdom. For his people, that placed what little hope they had left after the humans sealed them underground in him. For them he chooses to carry this burden, to commit these horrible atrocities even if it ends up destroying him. Thats one side of his character. The other is a broken old man, a shadow of his former self and a good person that was forced to do one evil deed too many. One that sacrificed everything he ever cared about for the greater good, who takes blow after blow and even commits suicide in one ending because he, too, believes he is a monster that deserves to be punished.
Regarding that: Did you know that "Asgore Dreemurr" is an anagram? If you re-arrange the letters, it spells "Sage or Murderer."
And if you ask me, that question perfectly encapsulates his entire character.
Edit: Grammar
Too long, didn't read.
Well said!
+-+ oh
Interessant
This is a masterpiece of a comment.
I tip my metaphorical hat to you.
@@silque_brigandess ok, but who asked
I JUST REALIZED THAT IT HAS DETERMINATION IN IT BECAUSE ASGORE’S VOICE IS THE ONE TALKING TO YOU WHEN YOU DIE AND DETERMINATION PLAYS
OH YEAH OMG
Game over messages is actually what asgore said to chara when they died@@PtownWaffleStudio
@@dagreenpcit is the memories from Chara
@@dagreenpc i couldn't help but cry when I found out my theory was real
Basically everything about undertale makes me depressed
Is it me, or is this one of the BEST themes?
Definitely not just you. As asgore is the final boss, I it made me king of sad to think that he is the last monster(probably not) left. And also, I at this point you know that the game is ending. And another note: he wanted to be with his family again. And I admire that. Not like underlust sans though... The cr eaters of that has a mental problem.
I agree on that last part. But the creators of Undertail also might of had a problem.
It has a hint of toriels theme that's the best thing
Yes it is
Yew Che Mak also asgore is not the last boss
The moment you realize that if asgore wanted to win he could have destroyed the fight button.
But then you'd be able to spare him (unless you mean both the spare and fight button, in which case you're right)
@@alec5779 Hell, he could just destroy every button and be unfair to us but nope
I think the point was that he wanted it to be either him or the player that died. He wanted to at least grant the player some form of mercy by having the possibility of killing him, or rather he probably rather die than kill another kid, if i was in his shoes, death wouldn't be such a bad alternative
I know this is a little funny haha moment but, it wouldn’t be fair and I bet asgore would feel bad cause he’s such a nice guy/monster and asgore probably wanted a little bit of a challenge because in the undertale universe it’s been practically a decade since they’ve seen another human
@@alec5779 r/iamsmart
asgore's armor, trident and everything is pretty intimidating but look at his feet
Love no amor yes inglish no spanish
@@tsansddlcemunderverse8079 tampoco te hagas el loco
@@elgranpelotudo8067 xd
Fluffy paws :3
LMAO
This song has the vibes of "This is the final battle, but neither side wants to do what they must". And it shows.
0:51 This might be why Heartache is referenced, or just because Asgore was Toriel's husband
The Final Battle but not the Final Boss *Inserts Megalovania*
@@TenienteMantequilla-xs4hc insert nightmare
@@abrilhernandez5839 insert “Hopes and Dreams”
@@BillCipher971 insert “Save the world”
Asgore is the most tragically real character ive ever seen. Some have come close, but none have ever made me as sad as Asgore does. Truly the best character in Undertale
And now free pickles
It’s actually canon that when his eyes change colors in battle it’s not for the attack is because of his tears to kill another human
@@nerfcontent9429 orange tears.
Agreed, almost everyone says “SAnS iS bESt” but as an actual character, asgore is so good
@@realparispigeon9059 i think people say sans is the bast is just bcus of his theme
speaking of his theme.... uhhhh....
Edit:
(Yall ik we all can have different but i said i think bcus i was not sure abt that fact yall)
Something about this sounds so magical and heroic, yet sad and remorseful.
I cant like this comment, its at 69
Holy... I see it. Whoever composed this theme, take a bow.
@David Foley oh i thought someone else would have been assignd to that?
@David Foley dahm... That makes me think of toby fox to an even higher degree...
That’s exactly it. It sounds hopeful and happy out of context but listening to this after the battle just makes me feel melancholic💔
I feel like we forget how badass Asgore was now that his most recent appearances have been him begging sans for free pickles and ostensibly living in a the attic of a garden supplies store.
Do you play undertale?
@@ОмельяненкоМихайло Deltarune comrade there are references in Deltarune
The story will inevitably get dark and I believe Asgore will show his courageous side of his personality in later chapters. What Toby is setting up between all the family members... Something special is brewing.
he looks happy selling flowers
@@p0laroideu probably
0:51 always gives me goosebumps, especially while fighting him. Asgore's theme is really amazing and it feels even better to think that he doesn't want to fight us
Fun fact: this part is reference to toriel's boss battle
@@Friskito22Its called a leitmotif, if I'm correct.
@@Friskito22leitmotifs. A staple in game-making. (Music Theory)
It's so nice because it references toriel
@@Friskito22even better when you keep in mind that the Toriel fight song is called Heartbreak
The only reason Asgore destroys the mercy button is because he thought he didn’t deserve mercy.
Makes me wanna cri ;-;
Oh rlly thats sad :(
So sad. Even worse is you or flower kills him.
Its a fight to the death
Why is you’re profile pic happy, it confuse me
Sadness intensifies
"Fine,Asgore,you can name your theme."
The result: ASGORE
lol imagine in undertale credits it says
By Asgore
Asgore
Asgore
Napstablook remixes it and asks Asgore for a name.
“New Asgore”
@@Utilisateur8855 bergentruckung is the intro, the battle theme itself is called ASGORE
Idk why
I think it wouldve been better if bergentruckung was the name of the theme itself by having both the intro and theme together and not have them be seperate soundtracks
@@leedlelel2373
It had to be two separate themes so ASGORE could be put in loop during the fight and not have the theme start all over again from the intro to the ecstatic part
@@Utilisateur8855 megalovania is Sans theme bruh
Asgore Is extremely underrated, like, he has character development if you think it for a second.
Because Humans trapped them in the underground, and the only way they figured it out on how to escape, was actually, killing the human children to set them free. It's an atrocious act that even Toriel can't spare from him, but probably the best action to take, it's really heavy to take such ways, but in the end, he stayed loyal to his purpose, set his people free.
His theme kinda represents it though, you can hear when the music gets louder and hits, and in the final keeps being loud but still "majestic" or "triumphant", it's not that the decisions he has taken were the best, but you can neither judge him for it. Your son's both die, and your loved one gets away from you because of your decisions. In normal circumstances it would be ok to do that, but not when he is a King.
He need to guide his people, and try make them a brighter future, and that's what he did, even with the heaviness of his "sins", he had to do it, not for himself, but for his own people.
The weight of the crown is one that is specifically hard to handle, you don't count on 1 or 3 people, there's an entire city you must protect, and let me tell ya that indeed, that's a lot of pressure.
The circumstances that he was with Toriel, or his sons, didn't help, but yet as I clarify earlier, he did it for the monsters.
He carried his sins to set all of the others free.
And because of that, he is, and will be a true king.
Man's wrote a whole ass essay
this needs more likes
This comment made me shed a tear
His theme is royal, but not at all happy or proud.
@@ocean6828
Yeah, it wouldn't be because of what I've said earlier. But still gives the vibes of royal as you say, or carrying hope, idk.
Only imagine being asgore for one second, his life is really tragic, he literally lost his two sons and wife in a short period of time, also he lost a war and that cause that all his kingdom goes to the underground, and also he see many of his soldiers and friends die in the war with the humans, i think that asgore is just a big depressed old man that needs a hug and a cup of tea
He is also reluctantly killing children,so yeah it's a pretty depressing life😢
@@SigusmundSiggy No one can deny his crimes, but when he searches for the last soul, he is exhausted, depressed and alone.
I am not going to deny the fact that he killed 6 children, but deep down he was looking for a way to break the barrier and free his people, something that a king in that situation would do to improve the quality of life of his inhabitants.
@@AndrebillYeah, what he did was horrible and kinda stupid, but I think he can be forgiven considering that he doesn't want to kill anyone else, yet he has to in order to keep his people's hopes up with breaking the barrier (from what I think, not certain,) but it's completely understandable if anyone thinks otherwise.
@@cringelord6068i completely agree with you.
Also i want to say that what Toriel did is really horrible, but understandable, because she dont want that his husband take the life of more people, but the terrible part (for me) is when she left Asgore, that kind of toxic behaviour, instead of understand the difficult situation that his husband was in to, she simply leave him, knowing that he probably dont want to kill anyone, but yeah i understand Toriel because when you have stressfull situations, you make very big and stupid mistakes
@@Andrebill i honestly agree-i mean toriel could of had a discussion with asgore rather than just leave immediately since she should have understood that asgore acted irrationally due to anger, especially because she was his wife
Both of the goats are kinda in the wrong
Pacifist(: Asgore Attack's!
Normal(:Asgore Attack's!
Genocide(: Now Let's Just Settle This Over A Nice Cup Of Tea
why cant asgore do that all the time
@@CYB3Redux Because he has a chance to stop you in the other two routes.
@@fearedjames i think is because he thinks you're a monster
He is British like me
@@arthurtenorio7808 bruh
You: **eats pie**
Asgore: :(
Poor guy just wanted a piece
@@caroswolf286 he thought about Toriel when you ate a pie
@@PrivateDaisy no shit Sherlock
｡ﾟ∵･(ﾉД`)∵ﾟ｡
@@cocoaducky i bake a Duck, want some?
Notice how Asgore's face is covered in shadow?
He's not trying to look intimidating. He just doesn't want to face what he's doing.
I thought that was a mask or a psycopath Mode of him in battle,i just realize that now🤡
I thought he was looking down
@@LynxRhyme He remember Chara
@@LynxRhymewhich is the case and another positive argument for the comment.
@@astralbirthvoid02 yes
This nostalgia song fill you with determination
❤save. Return.
💛save. Return.
💙save return
save. 💚Return.
SAVE
@@olekkrakowiak6576 no save
i like how asgore isn’t easy because he’s weak but easy because he’s tired and guilty
He's also easy because he doesn't want to win the fight he makes himself to do it
@@barakhalimi1 Asgore brining you to 1 hp befor killing you also ryhmes with how Torial just stop's trying to hurt you at low health as well.
To be honest i had to use my last resort temmie armor just to stand a chance
If you fight him with a low LV, I honestly wouldn't call him "easy". He's more or less tied with Muffet for second hardest boss in the game. His attacks are easier to avoid than hers but the fight also lasts longer due to his huge amount of HP and the fact that he doesn't just decide to call off the fight like Muffet does. The only boss that's harder on the normal route is Mettaton.
@@dark7element nah, hardest enemy I faced in that route was definitely that one plane mf
Daughter:”Dad I got a new boyfriend.”
Dad:
I thought so XD
@@EdwinFonseca1991 I thought I was the only one who still listens to this stuff
Yea true 😑
@@WaterMelo83 Yeah I thought that I was the only one who likes this
I totally agree
“The mercy button.... but why?”
“Because child.... there is no mercy... for me or for you....”
Fiercetooth that sounds like what he would say in a genocide fight or if he was the killer of Dusttale.
@@horrorsans7560 no mercy for asgore cuz he killed 6 humans and wants to destroy humanity
No mercy for frisk cuz asgore promised to kill him and if he kills asgore the hole underground will lose hope again and get trapped down forever
BEAR alpha like
You are the bear kill all the survivors no mercy
Umm
@@sofaalden2638 *her
1:51 this part, i don't know how to describe it but it sounds so majestic and tragic for me, there's something in the background beat, I have my eyes watery and all
I love this game dude
Vib-ribbon PFP in the wild
*When your wife files for divorce so you force a peaceful child to fight you*
yeah hes like "HEY KID I DONT KNOW WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
Mind if I take your soul after whipping ya arse m8? Tanks..
*don’t forget getting beaten by her*
7.
And when the kid actually spares you your soulless determined flower son kills you to become a god
This song is actually really deep. It has traces of Toriel's theme, but Toriel's theme has no traces of Asgore's theme. It shows that Toriel has completely cast Asgore out of her life, but Asgore still cares about Toriel.
To be honest, I'm not suprised, Toby Fox hides lots of random crap everywhere
All the family has the same motifs. The drum section of Asriel's fight is literally just that.
@@DrnMontemayor Oh yeah..
Or he just got lazy and used some parts of Toriel’s theme
@@davo8942 both
Fun fact Tories Is trying to plant flowers in her garden that’s asgore hobby If you don’t know where to look it’s in a drawer and asgore If you check his trash can He has a broken recipe for butterscotch pie
Asgore is so underrated compared to other characters. He is a grizzled old warrior who fights back his own demons mid-battle and will not except mercy. Not because he doesn’t want to accept lose, but because he doesn’t wish to live.
Also the only time he does survive is during true pacifist and that's because asgore gets stopped by toriel before they enter battle
bro literally commits suicide if you kill flowey the run before
But he won't stop fighting either. Because that is the duty of a king.
@@sleepynet13wait what rly??
He forces you to kill him.@@Jidiot-07
imagine being a child and in front of you is an 8 feet tall goat about to turn you in to cheddar cheese
Frisk: Mercy?
Asgore: I’m sorry little one...
Perfect
r/ExpectedThanos
*asgore destroy the like button*
UGHHH I MEAN*ASGORE DESTROY THE MERCY BUTTON
@@noahehab8245 you know you can edit your comment right?
Me: where’s the mercy button?
Asgore: *Gone, reduced to atoms*
That profile pic. It scares me
Breakfasts profile pic scares u wtf is ur? Oh god wait it's doggo sans
Yes the PP is quite the uhh...
*Thing.*
Tall sans short papyrus
BreakfastBoi
Ur profile pic is cursed
I still can't believe that almost the entire game was made by one person. Programming, most of the art, this amazing soundtrack, all by Toby Fox.
Technically, not all. I think there was a gal called Temmie Chang that helped Toby.
that's still incredibly impressive
Temmie Chang did the drawings :3
Nah it was a dog barking into a text to speech thingy
@@samuellinnthey never said he made the whole thing. Learn to read bud
Fun fact asgores designed to look like he has two faces with different emotions you can either see a evil king smiling or asgore looking sad and mad
It really is, are you sure?
Yah
i can only see him smiling even though that is supposed to be his crown
i always saw it as him looking down in regret for what he's doing
He looks pretty determined to me but idk I haven't played the game
Something I've always wondered about is why the part at 0:51 repeats so many times.
So I started to count, and concluded that same part repeats itself 6 times. The part after that, that would be the 7th, at 1:41, starts with a single note in a higher tone, cutting through the agitated beat of the other parts and introducing a slower pace. The pace of this part is changed back to a more agitated one at 1:48.
Now, thinking of the story of the game, the 0:51 part, repeated 6 times, can represent each human he killed so far. And, since Frisk (the player) is supposed to be the 7th human, the 1:41 would represent this current battle, but the tone is different. It can be a represention how tired and guilty Asgore is from all the bloodshed he caused, but he's sure he has no other choice in this battle with Frisk, and thus the 1:48 part
Great interpretation
You're a genius
Holy shit, genius of you to find it, and of Toby Fox to put that in there
0:51 actually sounds like Toriel's "Heartbreak" theme
@@kellythenpc yeah, that was the first thing I noticed when I heard this. This song really is amazing
See this Mercy button?
Now you don't.
because asgore broke it
Yeah
EEEEE
how did I even get 100 likes
🤣
Mercy button: *exists*
Asgore: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
🤣
A GENIUS
Hahahaha
yep best themes
@@theamazingkilijuawon2k199 i dont like replyers
I first discovered Undertale through this piece of music. While watching someone fight Asgore on a livestream, I found myself completely captivated by the background music. Over the years, I have listened to this piece every day, and it is so rich and layered that the intro alone contains the melody of the chorus. Especially the part at 0:29, with the soaring strings accompanying the melody, always brings tears to my eyes. The piece itself also contains four distinct melodies and In my personal opinion that correspond to the stages of emotional growth in a person's life. The beginning 0:17 represents the realization of the need to face the harsh reality of having to kill one's own self, not in a physical sense, but in a spiritual sense. The first section 0:51 depicts the long period of self-doubt and struggle, and as a result, this section is the longest one. The second section 1:49 represents taking action, no longer hesitating, and praying for forgiveness, welcoming everything that is to come since there is nothing left to lose(your filled with determination). The ending 2:07 represents the relief of being freed from the burden, got free, reborn,the healing of wounds, and continuing to grow and move forward. The bass throughout the entire piece is also very rich, and in my personal opinion, this is the greatest piece of music in Undertale.
Music is beautiful, isn't it?
@@albertofidela7106it is honestly
bros crying over a video game soundtrack 💀
Кринжанул
@@dawt838why not?
Asgore Dreemurr. Asgore is an anagram of Aegros, latin for reluctant. Dreemurr is an anagram of murderer. Asgore Dreemurr is an anagram of "Sage or murderer" as well as "Reluctant murderer". If that's not an excellent name, I don't know what is
(also Bergentrückung, the name of his theme, means mountain rapture as well as king of the mountain for anyone wondering)
It means mountain rapture, king of the mountains would be " König der Berge ". Dunno how you got king.
@@SuperBliter23123 mb, since a "mountain rapture" in folktale usually refers to the trope of "the king of the mountain", I thought it was pretty much the same.
My bad
so is toriel called toriel murderer?
On top of all of this, his (now ex)wife, toriel's name is a play on tutorial, and their son - Asriel Dreemurr is not only an anagram for Serial Murderer, but also a combination of his parents' names, AND an anagram of Ralsei, who was based on a character called Rals, with -ei being added later to connect him to asriel. Toby went all in on these anagrams
The name of his theme is just the intro,his actual theme is its own name
Undertale
Story: 10/10
Lore: 10/10
Gameplay: 10/10
Characters: 10/10
Sounds: 10/10
Music: 12/10
i fully agree
undertale is underrated
edit: only knew because of a video where somebody plays video game music on piano (from least popular to most) undertale was first.
having 1M+ downloads
music: 100/10
Fanbase:-16/10
@@joudkahwaji6369 just true
This is actually my favorite battle of Undertale and sadly it's totally underrated.
At this moment in the story we are introduced to the character that we are warned during all our journey.
Our first thought should be that maybe this is the final boss, but then we realize that this character really doesn't want to fight and we get this strange feeling when the battle begins.
At the same time, Toby challenges the player removing the main mechanic that we used during all the game so far and if that wasn't enough, we get another amazing piece of music that really conveys the climax tension in this battle.
Storytelling, music and gameplay merge together here in a brilliant way and it just amaze me how talented Toby was to create this moment.
I agree
Yes it's so underrated
I can't beat his fight on Pacifist
i like megalomania too,You can fell sans sad and angry because you destroy everybore
It has 10M views, only the theme. What you mean underated?
this is one of my favorite songs in the game, it's so fucking good
Fr man, it’s in my top 5 Undertale/Deltarune songs!
*You tell Asgore that you've beaten him before.
*you call him a noob.
*ASGORE'S ATK went up!
*ASGORE'S DEF went up!
Act
Check
Asgore
ASGORE 999999999999999999 ATK 999999999999999999 DEF
@@atc5412
Sans : hey I didn't befriended with your mom
THATS NOT TRUE! THATS IMPOSSIBLE
@@TheSpooker086 search your feelings u know it be true
Oh no
I really, really wish we got to see Asgore at full power.
Let's look at some details.
He was a warrior, king, and probably main target of the humans during the war.
Remember, a single human soul is as powerful as every monster in the underground's put together.
This man fought against probably tens of thousands of humans as the main target and a front line fighter, AND HE LIVED. He was barely even scathed. He made sure that the monsters were only pushed back.
He's got armor on him and a trident, which are both probably very powerful.
He was king of the monsters, and held that title.
When we fight him, he's got an actually rather hard battle, and pretty good stats, 80 ATK and 80 DEF.
Remember, this is him, yet older, scarred, depressed, and probably suicidal. He doesn't even want himself to win, and he doesn't think he deserves mercy.
Full power Asgore?
Definitely the hardest fight. By far. Probs like a kajillion attack and defense.
Oh yeah, and he had the six human souls. If he used those, he would literally not be beatable.
He deserves more credit. Now he's just some old man living in the attic of his shop.
dont forget he can dodge too, undyne says that she trained with him but "couldnt land a hit on him"
most likely more powerful than sans too and not even talking about "dodge" stuff that is... just a joke sans does (after all to be honest... is not very impressive really since its same as sans having very high hp...high defenses are same as dodge)
another reminder: he is stronger than Udyne.
Sure hero undyne will be swiping floor with old man asgore easly but thats Undyne at its peak... forcefully too as she is literally dying of from her own power.
Asgore? You are right there was a reason humans didn't kill every single monster. What I imagine is he took the mountain to take defensive stance once realized he is losing battle and held the line. He was so brutal humans had to seal mountain with a barrier to end the war... that guy was stronger than any human most likely... he is an exception to monsters
now? He can't even look at your face as you fight. His eyes allways shadowed by his regrets
not only that but he also never lost to flowey, a creature made of determination with abilty to restart
Flowey had infinite amount of chance to learn his every move and perfectly counter him but he out matched him all the time...
why? Because aganist Flowey there was no guilt of killing a child, its a monster challanging him... he can fight will his full wrath without thinking about past crimes... its not a innocent child he is facing, its a monster flower that trying to take his life now... no mercy.
He was literally Sans to Flowey... "Hardest boss in the game"
@@neo1754 Bro felt so undeserving of mercy that he won't even bother to block or dodge.
There’s also the fact that he looks down for the battle, which means his attacks are thrown out randomly, if he was looking and therefore able to direct attacks he’d be even more powerful
He's more than just an old man living in an attic. He has those eerie flowers, I feel like they have something to do with him.
When you can literally hear someone's regret and pain in a song, you know you did amazing
the violins sound like they're crying
Megalovania gets all the glory but I feel this is really underrated.
@@robertmiller7921Underrated songs:
Asgore
Death By Glamour
Heartache
Hopes and Dreams (though is well known, people would rather like Megalovania than this song)
@@YourNumberOneRated1997Salesmanif your going to include hopes and dreams atleast include Finale or Omega Flowey Theme.
@georgetheanimator idk, maybe Reunited, Undertale and "an Ending" also hasn't got enough of attention because of Megalovania
Undertale's songs always come at the right time, this one hits the heart during the last battle against Asgore. *You feel the drain coursing through your body... it fills you with DETERMINATION.*
Fighting old men to sad/epic music is the flawless formula for a great boss
yes
Plin plin plon
raiden vs armstrong
Literally Gehrman lol.
Ludwig, Gherman, Isshin, Owl(Father), Gwyn, Slave-knight Gael. Fromsoft has cracked the formula huh ?
Sans: im facing a megalomaniac with incredible powers so i'll call my theme "Megalovania".
Toriel: I hate the idea of killing humans, it gives me a "Heartache"
Undyne: I hate humans and i will hunt down all of them for the greater good of monsterkind, thats why my theme should be called "Spear Of Justice".
Flowey: **this is "Your Best Nightmare"... YOU'LL NEVER WAKE UP FROM."**
Asgore: ASGORE IS ASGORE.
@XAVER BEANWOOD bergentruckung is the intro, the fight main theme is called ASGORE.
Asgore: I'm hungry so I'll call my theme burger truck
@@aaronking2020 "New Home".
A S G O R E .
@@aaronking2020 excuse me what
I love how this sounds intimating when first heard, fitting for a boss level. But after figuring out the whole story, you realize that it's intended more for Asgore, not for the player. The incredulous willpower he needed to move forward is captured in this music.
Ngl but when I heard the theme song for the first time i was like "hold on this doesn't fit"
@@theangeloflie same..
I cannot believe this character was underrated for 9 years..
Undertale's best written character for me
You tell Asgore his theme is underated*
He nods sadly*
lol
Vincent Mah In general he's super underrated, he's one of the best characters in the game in my opinion. That run where he kills himself at the end is super sad too..
DEEP NOSE EXHALE
This has to be above Megalovania for me, but below Hopes and Dreams/SAVE the World. All three of them are awesome themes and greatest boss fights in their own path. I'm sorry but I truly did not like Photoshop Flowey at all or his theme but that's just me.
Creeperinside Link Photoshop Flowey’s theme was effective at conveying the chaos he wields and the human souls attempting to help you, but it’s not exactly a nice song to listen too and the boss fight itself doesn’t compare to Asriel Sand Asgore or Undyne the Undying.
I know everyone likes megalovania but personally this is my favourite song from any videogame all together.
Not everyone likes Megalovania... This or Hopes and Dreams or Spear of Justice are way better
Rin my favorite is hoped and dream but megolavania is my second fav
this song and battle againts a true hero much better than Megalovania
Luna 1 spear of justice is kinda repetitive, battle against a true hero is much better
I love the waterfall music
My friend: why does asgore destroy the mercy button
Me: i dont wanna cry again
It's theorized that the reason he destroys the mercy button is because normally, his name would automatically be yellow. Thus allowing you to spare him immediately, and thus be capable of ending the fight entirely.
Tho it could also be because of the fact that for the both of you, this is a go-for-broke final battle in your eyes: if you beat him, you take his soul and pass through the barrier. You go home. But if he wins, he gets the final soul he needs to break through the barrier, and the monsters can be free again.
Either way, it's a moment of desperation on both sides with high stakes.
This is so very true
@@theterrorofdimensions1326 this is a good theory, that make sense :O
I think what Asgore thought what he did'nt deserve that + His duty
@@theterrorofdimensions1326 I prefer to think that he break the mercy button because he doesn't deserve Mercy after what he had done in the past.
7+ years and I still listen to this daily
0:25 - 0:33 is my favorite part. It just makes me feel really happy and sad at the same time, which just fits with the idea that even though Frisk is happy to go to the surface, he has to do it in the most difficult and sad way.
It basically is like a cruel moment of hope, a hope that is never received unless true pacifist route
2:06-2:23 is my favorite
@@landlord291 согласен. Отличный момент.
1:07 is my favorite part
cuz that's what this is, it's the end of your journey, you're finally going home, but that also means you're gonna leave all your friends behind to die in the underground, this theme only stops being sad once you're in the true pacifist, where you can save everyone and this little part becomes less of a "sad happiness" and more of a hope song, you hear more the happy part of the song when you're feeling good when you're neutral you can hear both sad and happy in this little part and in the song as a whole so you get mixed feelings as if you're doing something you must do/said you're to do but also that just feels wrong, this what both you(frisk) and asgore are feeling
fun fact: This is 2 themes. Bergentrückung is the intro. When the beat drops(A.K.A When you can select your menu buttons) that is called ASGORE.
The FACT that there is 2 facts makes this one the third.
The actual best part is what the name means. Bergentrückung. King Beneath the Mountain.
@@Deamons64 I thought it only means mountain king, german is confusing.
@@Deamons64 That's not what it means, King beneath the Mountain would translate to "König unterm (unter dem) Berg".
So german wikipedia says that basically the myth of Bergentrückung means that people do not die but move on to a place beneath the mountains, a underworld so to speak.
See a TALE that plays beneath a mountain in the UNDER world?
Berg = Mountain / Entrückung (entrücken: verb) = to move on
HOWEVER this myth was usually attributed to kings so your first translation while wrong was somewhat technically correct if you stretch it.
Hope that was interesting...
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Me: **does something wrong**
My dad:
No Mercy
My dog when he sees a cat
@@untitled3112 it's fine dude. I don't have a dad either
Edit: Fixed spelling sorry
@@TortoiseBlaster Thx
@@TortoiseBlaster haha brainless
Other people: Megalovania
Intellectuals:
Finally!
For real though
I agree
Me too
me too
Asgore in pacifist - let's fight
Asgore in neutral - let's fight
Asgore in genocide - would you like some tea
EDIT: kinda forgot this comment existed
(insert obnoxious message of me thanking people for likes)
Jajajaj it's true,sow curious
I think asgore in genocide is like a coward.
Jevil33 nope, he just doesn’t want to kill his own kind. A monster.
@@thecyclone9115 good thinked Woody
lol
I'm glad that, coming to this video, there's still people who love Asgore. He gets so much unwarranted hate for trying to be a king for his people. Toriel gets to live in the ruins with no responsibility to anyone but herself (and the children that maybe fall down once in a while) while Asgore carries the hopes and dreams (no pun intended) of the entire Underground as he's suffering for his brash actions in a fit of emotions.
Goat Dad deserves happiness. It's kind of sad seeing how lonely he seems to be in the DeltaRune series, I hope he moves on from Toriel and finds happiness without her.
Helll ye
Even Toby himself seems to irrationaly hate the character.
@@caioaugusto1606 I honestly don't think Toby hates the character, I think he's got something planned for Asgore. But we'll see in the coming years.
@@TheChildofAuraReborn Undertale is the game where the correct thing to do when a giant frog tries to murder you is to simply talk to it, so maybe Toby's very warped understanding of giving the other face means that all rationality behind Asgore's actions might just be irrelevant to the story. Based on all the evidence of all of Toby Fox's games, Asgore is supposed to simply be 100% wrong and doesn't deserve any sympathy for killing children, no matter the context.
@@caioaugusto1606 the only time self defense is mentioned is in one line of dialogue from sans at the judgement hall, so yeah thats probably it lol
"you tell Asgore hes already killed you twice he nods sadly"
2:06 this part never fails to bring me chills, his theme is amazing and the fact that THIS fragment is in the theme is perfect.
When you get a game over and realize that he despite all he’s gone through and has done for the monsters(his people), he as well is rooting for you from his voice calling for you not to give up.
It was so masterful to add it to his fight scene.
I'm hear the Japanese vocal since of IOSYS association
1:00 for me idk why lol
It reminds me of super smash bros ultimate, and I don’t know why.
Also, I’m 100% sure that gameover text is a fragment of the first fallen child’s memory, that somehow Frisk has access to
His theme
@@PianoMelodyHeart chara actually shows you that memory
Asgores theme is so underrated. It's my favorite!
exactly I love it so much! #Farmville
Javi Garcia I love it too. It has so many memories
Jimmy Valmer i am understand
Me too
Jimmy Valmer Asgore is my favourite as well! He deserves to be loved more!
Asgore destroys the MERCY button because he knows you could spare him with that. He doesn't think he deserves mercy; he even kills himself so you can have his soul if you do two neutral routes in a row and spare him.
ARE YOU SAD YET?????
HE DOES WHAT?!
@@rapogirl1391 yep when u defeat omega flowey and go to your save file withouth resetting he kills himself and flowey dont let you spare him
Edit: i mean take his soul.
Also so you cant flee and escape
The Underhammer, asgore destroys the mercy button because sparing him will make you look nice, and chara acted nice but she killed asriel, so he’s just learning from his past mistakes, YOU STUPID!!!!
Isn’t that kinda obvious
it took me 8 years to realize thats his snout and not a big mfing ass smile on his face💀
It’s not a smile, it’s his hair covering his eyes. He’s looking down in shame; distancing himself from the actions he believes he has to take.
I know the feeling
Asgore when we first met him: A good man forcing himself to commit a horrible deed under the belief that it's the only way to bring salvation to his people.
Asgore now: *EGGS-HUSBAND*
God bless, Toby.
@@p0laroideu I mean, we still didn't get an explanation to why he and Toriel divorced in DR...
And it seems like dess has "gone missing"...
@@n3harb noooooooooooo. I don’t believe this.
@@n3harb I think it's because of debt. Asgore fell into debt and Toriel couldn't stand him and his stupid flowers anymore
@@n3harb I personally think that Noelle had something to do with Dess disappearing. Noelle's mother is really harsh on her, but why? I think it's because Noelle had somehow influenced December's disappearance. Maybe she was manipulated, framed, or actually did something wrong. She shivers at the thought of Dess, so maybe she might've burst out at Dess for something, maybe she lost something in the woods, was too afraid to get it, so Dess had to (get the reference?) and she never saw Dess again. Maybe someone told her mother that Noelle did something bad to Dess and Dess ran away. Who knows
Or Dess is not alive
@@QUBIQUBED imagine if Dess is just in the university with Asriel
When you meet Agore and see him looking harmless but then he takes his cape off looking like a demon and breaking the mercy button.
You will only experience once in life.
How...does he look like a demon? I mean, I guess his horns...but he is a goat. Goats have horns.
@@TPN_2006 basically you will poop your pants
@@kobedd.d Yeah, he is really fucking intimidating behind the cape...
@@TPN_2006 exactly
I only wish I played it on the big ass TV
Asgore theme and fight are my favorites of the entire game, because:
1-Asgore breaks all expectations we had on him. in every dialogue, his name appears in red, which tries to create an image that he is mean and have to be feared. but when you first meet him, you can see he is an awesome and caring guy, which makes me go to:
2-He doesn't want to kill you, he doesn't want to take your soul, but that is the only thing he can do for his kingdom and people. some people really hate him because of that(i don't judge, what he did is really wrong), but don't try to see by his perspective. he doesn't want to hurt anybody, he just want people to have the freedom they always dreamed. you can see it when you use TALK and says that you don't wanna fight. he nods sadly because he doesn't want to fight too.
3-He thinks he is unforgivable. he even recognises, in True Pacifist Route, that his actions were horrible. he destroys your mercy button, because he thinks he doesn't deserve mercy at all. but he wants to redeem himself, because he loves his family and people. his theme even has a Toriel's theme leitmotif to proof it.
anyway, this was long. hope u didn't get bored. and sorry if something is not written right, im brazilian.
BR! Não preocupa não, seu Inglês foi bão demais kkk
@@brazilianknuckles7900 opa, mto bom encontrar outros BR em vídeo de gringo ksksks
Im coming to brazil after listening to asfore's them for the 1000th time
non english speaking mfs be like:
*Casually rewrites Shakespeare down to the word*
"Sorry for bad grammar, english is not my native language"
Cara eu faço curso e curti demais seu ingles,e concordo com oq vc disse
I love this song man. It’s such a good send off to the neutral route and made me really sad doing what I knew was wrong. Definitely one of the few moments in a game where I wish I could experience it for the first time again.
Asgor: *destroys "Mercy" button*
Frisk : *-_-*
Yes
😳😳Frisk be like: -_-
😤😤😳😳
Chara be like: 😈
This button represents my mercy.
*Asgore breaks button*
I have run out if mercy.
@@crabbyfish2478 Chara be like: _🔪_
Asian kid: *gets a grade below A*
His dad with a broom:
more like hanger : ) filipino people only understand
@@JHAM29 same as Malaysian parents :l
now this is an avengers level threat
@Kean Guinto Lmao true
Well if i can't get 90 i die
When you knock on your crush's door to ask her to prom, but her dad answers:
When you realized that he answered the door with a trident.
I'm sorry now you face the straight of a mountain king
When you realize your girlfriends dad turns out to be a super villain 😳
omlllllllllll
fantastic music, really struck a chord in my playthrough of the game... i almost didnt want to cut out moments of me tearing up. the determination to spare everyone and being somewhat gaslight into actually attacking for the first time was so profoundly depressing. On top of this track which felt like a successor to Heartache that more is on the line and of course attacking someone you dont really want to considering EVERYONE in the underground thinks of asgore as a softy, the build up was PERFECT.
Leitmotifs
0:17 Asgore / Bergentrückung
0:51 Heartache (Part 1)
1:41 Heartache (Part 2)
2:06 Determination (Part 1)
2:23 Determination (Part 2)
2:46 Undyne
2:51 video end
0:01 video start
Bro heartache part 1 repeats 6 times, it can also represent the 6 humans he killed.
This isn't my comment, someone else commented this and I'm using that here
@@blazeasteroid nice pfp
0:00 clic
"kid, I broke the goddamn mercy button. Why are you dancing there?"
he be vibing
Lol
@@Sp1Tz_2nd lol
also lol
Lol
Personal theory ahead:
I think this song represents Asgore's life, and the different parts of it. It starts off peaceful, a little strange. This is his childhood. It then gets a little more intense and complicated t 0:16, signifying adulthood. At 0:50, he meets Toriel. This is why this part sounds like Toriel's theme, Heartache. As this part progresses, it becomes more complex and adds some background tracks. The background tracks are the kid that he has with Toriel, Asriel, and later, Chara. At 1:41, the music slows. This is the day that Chara and Asriel die, and Toriel divorces him. After this, the events of the game happen and in the neutral ending, you have a big fight with him. This is at 1:49, the most intense part of the song. It also brings back the Toriel, Asriel, and Chara tracks because this is what he is thinking about as he fights you. This is who he is fighting for. Though we know at 2:06, you prevail, and Asgore dies. This is why the music sounds like the determination theme. It's his game over.
Interesting...
Lmao so deep
Lol imagine if we are all overthinking this. Toby: I just thought it sounded neat.
@@pennywise8994 It would be pretty funny and not the first time something like this happens. But Toby fox has shown, that he knows how to put together songs that add to the story, if not tell their own in the context of the game, so it's not that far off a stretch. Otherwise, I believe there's still value in finding your own meaning in a work of art. That's what art is for in the end.
This analysis is depressing @-@
i love how asgore destoryed the mercy button not because he wants u to die but that he does not deserve mercy
I'm back here, 5 years later
I forgot how hard this slaps
The nostalgia I felt after playing Undertale again is just too much
the fact that this even CAN be nostalgic is too much. 2015?! its been that long...
I know right I love this melody❤🎵🎵🎵
i only knew it existed in 2021 i feel so ashamed i wish i found the game sooner i'm not an og
@@sUnn-lt6hg cierto muy cierto
Lo dijiste perfectamente
Unpopular opinion: this is the best boss theme in the entire game.
Edit: I love Battle Against a True Hero and Mettaton Ex's theme as well!
Yes
Agreed
At least one of the best
Mettaton EX: Allow me to introduce myself
@@dustifiez nah
Nobody's gonna read this but meh.
I introduced undertale to my mother and she loved it! When we got to this fight, both of us almost cry at the end, he just wanted to be happy with a family but flowey just killed him right away, I think my mother said "you stupid flower how evil can you be", she also loved the soundtrack, the tragedy part of it but also the beauty ans majesty it gets after that.
I'm so happy that I can share the emotions I felt with undertale with my mother :')
How lucky you are
@@ok-pm4ck indeed, I want her to continue but, my mother thinks that flowey is lying, about alphys being the key for the true ending, but she accepted to give him an opportunity, one of these days we are gonna continue the game :D
i can imagine her shocked face when she finds out who the "stupid evil flower" turns out to be ;)
You should see the comment above yours
@@jollyjadentnt7963 same
This song is perfect to representing Asgore as a Royal King. It feels like i'm in the middle of the sunset and met someone who wants to fight me as a heroic duel
0:51 Heartache, Toriel's Theme. He still remember her.
2:14 "Determination"
He is the one who say Stay determined at game overs.
Stay Determined..
2:14 Slow it at 0,5
This guy only has like 5 lines and he's already established himself in my heart
Im the only who was crying at this theme?
@@speakersyts i crying
this beat hits so hard that even asgore's cape's vibin'
frrr it be bouncin up and down in joy
It do be bouncing more than sans idle animation
Mercy Button: *Exists
Asgore: I'm gonna end this man's whole career
im boutta end this mans whole career
snap
goddem
Chara/Frisk to ASGORE:
I'm bout to end this man's whole career.
Here we go agin
Bro:"trust the process "
Me 5 seconds into trusting his process:
Asgore: Florida man kills 6 children after his wife divorced him. Atempts to break the mexican border.
undyne:” lady enraged and attempted murder to a child that burned down her house.
sans: lazy man with ak-47 is on the loose.
papyrus: man happy with murderer even though the murderer tried to kill him.
mettaton ex: dancing celebrity invites kid to join his dancing.
Toriel: overprotective mother refuses to let kid out of house.
Muffet: lady demands kid to pay a thousand dollars for a donut.
Flowey: man arrested because he taught a child that bullets are “friendliness pellets”.
Mettaton is a boy btw :)
Undyne the Undying: *Woman literally to angry to die.*
Temmie: women only knows to say hoi I am tem
So sorry: man bumped into at least a thousand people without mask, killed over 1000 people.
Last one xd
suprised that no one really talks about how 2:06 is the game over theme referencing how asgore is the one that keeps encouraging you each time you die (most of the time at least)
Realmente transmite mucho
Flowey 😂
yeah cause he needs you to get to him so he can yoink your SOUL.
Doesn't encourage you when sans dunk on you for some reason
@@bollol5426 no
That was actually asgore talking to chara on their deathbed
*_I can't get over the sounds in my head saying.._*
*_Kanye West he likes fing.._*
What
You too😃
He likes it in his ass
Yes pinkie, index finger and the thumb!
Weird flex but ok
“There is nothing better than MEGALOVANIA!”
Me:
FR FR I AGREE
nu uh
@@2stopmoitonmaker_66 yuh huh
Megalovania está sobre valorada, solo es una guitarra a su máximo poder, que es buena, sin embargo está y hopes and dreams la vencen por mucho
The drop at 1:51 is my favorite part of the song. A huge epic crescendo complimenting the intensity of the fight and leading to the somber "Determination" section.
True xD
sorry, I would like the comment, but I don't want to break the 444.
tell me whwn someone else breaks it.
@@DJKoolKingis already broke but it wasn't my my fault lol
@@Alexelpapuxd thanks for telling me
Fun fact: if you'll do neutral and KILL flowey, then reset and do another neutral, asgore will have extra dialouge
(i think)
What is the dialogue?
@@GreatNishanka dunno
I can't really remember but I think he commits suicide
@@zayyaan7772 yeah
Yeah basically he realise the you living underground just wouldn't work and that toriel doesn't like him anymore so he kill himself so you can take his soul and go to the surface... but flowey destroy the soul.
Children: "Megalovania is the best Undertale song!"
Meanwhile, us Adults:
I agree. This is better than Megalovania"
I agree even tho I'm a child
Teens: am i joke to u
I think they're both great songs..
@@kbaskota Careful, you're posting your opinion online.
my dad said to stop listening to the music from this game because he saw Asgore and now he thinks the game is from the devil, if he only knew...
Satanic Panic
The Mercy Button: you took everything from me
Asgore: I don’t even know who you are.
Its his head not a helmet...
I get that reference
This doesn't fit.
Human
Nice to meet you
Goodbye
(Asgore destroys the mercy)
Human...
It was nice to meet you!
Goodbye.
Josue Chiliquinga right that’s goodbye to the mercy button and yourself
so...no healer i guess?
Asgor destroyed the mercy, because he knows that he doesn't deserve it
Asgore: *le epically destroys MERCY*
*you tell ASGORE that his theme is underrated.
*he nods sadly
2:06 watch this at 0.5x speed, it is the game over theme
Song I’m referring to is “determination” btw
Honestly, I think big part of why flowey/Asriel's big final fight works so well despite being so ridiculously long and difficult is because you really don't expect it at all. Asgore's fight was so goddamn good, emotional, epic and satisfactory that I legit thought it was straight up the end, and then BAM you get a cool ass cherry on the cake with an extra hour or so of gameplay out of nowhere. Beautiful game.
Kinda easy comparable to other stuff, my deaths on sans are in the hundreds and ive beat asgore twice with 5 deaths
@@wilaleyeah but you expected sans and that ruins everything
It hits me hard to know that Asgore attacks barely point at you and instead they go all over the room because he is not watching, he just send attacks to you hoping to hit you cause he does not want to see
*(A stranger light fills the room.)
*(Twilight is shinning through the barrier.)
*(It seem your journey is finally over.)
*(You’re filled with DETERMINATION.)
Asgore:*Human
*It was nice to meet you
*Goodbye.
Still asgore:(destroys mercy button)
*asgore themes intensifies*
*this is the final battle
Asgore such an underrated character.
All this time I thought that was helmet, but it's Asgore keeping his face down :c
It makes things much sadder bro
So why are his horns facing up like he’s looking up
I'm the 69th like-
wat
@@igorkonys1006 is horns are not up normally, when he looks down, they are up