Why Don't Diamonds Feel Special Anymore?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2022
  • How did diamonds went from being a gamechanging resource to being the worst resource in the game today?
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  • @XayXayYT
    @XayXayYT  Год назад +4395

    Update: as of 25th January, Mojang added a new use for diamonds in armor trimming!
    Corrections:
    - Iron has existed as a trade for as early as 1.3, however it existed as 8 - 9 irons for 1 emerald. It was update 1.14 which reduced it to 4 irons, so technically they still made iron really good for trading in 1.14.
    - As pointed out by "Hmmm ok" in the comments, diamonds were also added into Ancient Cities in 1.19, I tend to forget 1.19 existed sometimes.
    - Players learning how to strip mine, y = 11/12 and getting better at finding diamonds also reduced their specialty. Forgot to mention this by the end.
    - "Iron farms were created to keep up with the DEMANDS" not the supply. I got them mixed up 🥴
    - Yes, Mending affected diamonds too, Mending played a huge part in reducing the impact of diamonds since it removed any need to get more diamonds now that your equipment were permanent. A future video will be made commenting on that!

    • @simonezuccarello6969
      @simonezuccarello6969 Год назад +143

      Now with 1.19 even golden hoe has a use. If you put mending on it, you can instantly mine sckulk block and farm an insain amount of EXP

    • @groveri2
      @groveri2 Год назад +40

      @@simonezuccarello6969 mojang just needs to nerf mending xD

    • @simonezuccarello6969
      @simonezuccarello6969 Год назад +93

      @@groveri2 I don't think soo.. If mending doesn't exist you will constantly need to recreate and enchant your tools and armor and. With mending we can get a final equipment.

    • @groveri2
      @groveri2 Год назад +36

      @@simonezuccarello6969 i said nerf.....

    • @sackboyi4631
      @sackboyi4631 Год назад +4

      Your people killed half the world: you are not in a good position to criticize diamonds

  • @anthonycopter1068
    @anthonycopter1068 Год назад +14560

    When Minecraft first started, finding diamonds meant you were a professional. Now, finding diamonds means you are just getting started

    • @XxEggman_Meme_GodxX
      @XxEggman_Meme_GodxX Год назад +651

      does that mean I’m lame at Minecraft. Cause I can never find these things.

    • @Maxidos
      @Maxidos Год назад +494

      I can’t even get a diamond before I get bored and quit the world lol

    • @MrMoron-qn5rx
      @MrMoron-qn5rx Год назад +268

      @@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX depends on how you play and what your goals are
      I personally havent stip mined for diamond gear etc... basically ever. However, i still get dia gear either though villager trades, using the create mod, or by making redstone stuff in servers for a small fee. Diamonds ARE still good as currency after all, especially in modded minecraft where usually theres some renewable source of iron.

    • @stanleybochenek1862
      @stanleybochenek1862 Год назад +86

      i feel like getting diamonds in this new caves and cliffs update is hard as hell i haven’t even found a warden place yet

    • @theshade0038
      @theshade0038 Год назад +22

      @@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX actually no, because most of them spawn under the ground, where you cant ser unless you have he patience to Mine alot
      (At least for me It was like that, i even downloaded a mod with a Compass that show me where the ores are and almost ALL of them were inside walls or the ground)

  • @fatherscallop7044
    @fatherscallop7044 9 месяцев назад +2607

    As a minecraft veteran, finding diamonds still feels like it is a reward, finding netherite feels like a chore...

    • @ngcebondlovu-cn5tw
      @ngcebondlovu-cn5tw 8 месяцев назад +48

      That's me tooo

    • @am_Nein
      @am_Nein 8 месяцев назад +69

      Interesting! For me, netherite hunting is fun. The only thing is, I literally can't find where I went hunting for it. I'm not even kidding 💀

    • @simonantoska9581
      @simonantoska9581 8 месяцев назад +23

      I never had a netherite ingot😢

    • @W0rldSix
      @W0rldSix 8 месяцев назад +28

      For me its the other way in reverse lol. Diamonds is a chore, netherite gives me a way better dopamine rush then what diamond used to give me before Mojang nerfed diamonds so bad.

    • @hematogen50g
      @hematogen50g 7 месяцев назад

      @@simonantoska9581 I am digging the nether to find ancient debris it seems totally pointless as I used 2 diamond pickaxes just to find 2 debris and 2 more are to be found.

  • @MeargleSchmeargle
    @MeargleSchmeargle Год назад +1030

    The one thing that softens the netherite blow is the fact that you still need diamond gear to actually put netherite to use, the diamond gear isn't outright circumvented with the new ore.

    • @REDACTED835
      @REDACTED835 10 месяцев назад +68

      I was looking for this comment. Despite the general lack of uses for diamond, and ease of finding it, I still continue to go on occasional diamond hunts whenever my supply dips below 20. I wanna be able to remake any lost gear in the event of untimely death.

    • @infamoussoapconsumer3870
      @infamoussoapconsumer3870 9 месяцев назад +10

      Its more of an alloy to me honestly.

    • @Some_randomegg
      @Some_randomegg 8 месяцев назад +35

      You also need a diamond pickaxe to mine netherite anyway

    • @yourhiqhnesss
      @yourhiqhnesss 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Some_randomeggthe thing is that u get it with iron trading emeralds.

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 7 месяцев назад +7

      Netherite is just a phone case for diamonds

  • @Ryvaken
    @Ryvaken 6 месяцев назад +193

    One time in...1.16? My brother invited me onto a server with his kids. I saw their base, and its basement. About four chunks or so excavated down to the 30s. Using stone tools.
    Because iron was too rare.
    And they had a pretty terrible iron farm running.
    ...
    I built a villager trading farm and destroyed that server's economy inside a week. I learned a lot about the value of NOT building infrastructure.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 3 месяца назад +24

      Survival is creative now.
      Fun Fact: back in alpha versions, there was so little iron in the world and tools had less durability, so that if you mined for iron with iron pickaxes at the optimal mining level, you lost iron. You had to use either diamond or stone tools.

    • @SoupMagoosh
      @SoupMagoosh 3 месяца назад +8

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 bro... survival is not like creative at all, I don't get why the minecraft community is so toxic and hate the game so much. If you want to mine iron for hours, play a different game.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 3 месяца назад +21

      @@SoupMagoosh if you want to mine iron for hours, play survival, if you don't want to mine for hours, play creative. What's the problem?

    • @j100j
      @j100j 2 месяца назад +8

      @@SoupMagooshI missed the part where toxic.

    • @russman3787
      @russman3787 9 дней назад +1

      @@SoupMagoosh The people who "hate the game" are the ones who want to trade with villagers for an hour to get everything with no exploring or resource collecting and then automate everything so the game plays itself.

  • @KKinreallife
    @KKinreallife Год назад +5949

    Remember when everyone viewed diamonds as a sign of wealth and power? Me too. Now it's just a memory in the distant past...

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +478

      Yeah, back when having a diamond block house was the most in your face flexing, it was pretty good times.
      Nowadays its just a way for minecraft builders to trash on you for building an ugly house.

    • @binkus_
      @binkus_ Год назад +119

      They are still viewed as a sign as wealth and power, I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, maybe they became a bit less valuable with the introduction of netherite.

    • @crimsonfire6932
      @crimsonfire6932 Год назад +184

      @@binkus_ forget the introduction of netherite. Netherite didn’t make diamonds more common or take away from their utility. What cheapened diamonds was the armorer, toolsmith and weapon smith master equipment trades, as well adding diamonds to too many structure loot tables.
      Netherite is prestigious without taking away from diamonds prestige. The worst it does is overshadow it somewhat.

    • @groveri2
      @groveri2 Год назад +24

      i think its bc every single lets play youtuber now speedruns diamonds instead of just enjoying the moment so watchers would want to do that too o.O

    • @SamiTheAnxiousBean
      @SamiTheAnxiousBean Год назад +10

      depends on how it's used
      In a private smp between me and my friends diamonds are used as the main currency, so they still have worth

  • @monkeisway7650
    @monkeisway7650 Год назад +3133

    Who else still finds diamonds valuable and gets a mini heart attack whenever they see them

  • @Zichfried
    @Zichfried 6 месяцев назад +351

    No new diamond recipes was a terrible negligence from Mojang, but I think the worst part was adding diamond armor and tools to villagers' trades. You don't need to go mining to make diamond stuff, just cure a bunch of zombie villagers until you can just trade them as if nothing with no limits. The same goes for enchantments from trades and how woodland mansions went worthless the trip since you can get tons of undying totems from raids. All of this is destroying what Minecraft means.

    • @NefashusLP
      @NefashusLP 5 месяцев назад +5

      Underrated comment

    • @OnlyNeedJuan
      @OnlyNeedJuan 4 месяца назад +18

      Villager Trading is arguably one of the worst implemented mechanics in the game, right next to Elytras.

    • @leftory684
      @leftory684 3 месяца назад +2

      The Experimental Villager Trade Rebalance makes it so you need to trade emeralds AND diamonds to get diamond armor, not sure about tools tho.

    • @scorpixel1866
      @scorpixel1866 3 месяца назад +5

      @@OnlyNeedJuan Mending, villager trading, and the dozens of existing farms mean that multiplayer gets flooded with materials that have no out as gear is effectively immortal. The servers i checked are hyperinflated to the point of ridicule, diamonds are near worthless and so are supposedly rare stuff like totems/enchants, and anything that can be farmed if not afkfarmed/autoclicker.
      The people who though armour trims would somehow fix this do not realise it only meant people will only make the sets they want once and those will last forever, effectively being a one time purchase.

    • @SoupMagoosh
      @SoupMagoosh 3 месяца назад +3

      @@OnlyNeedJuan Elytra's are one of the best implemented features, they are an end game item, they can't be farmed and they make the game super fun

  • @sarvukruv2137
    @sarvukruv2137 9 месяцев назад +28

    I remember when I was really young, I found diamonds in a Minecraft world of mine and flexed about it the next day. No matter how the sands of time wither their importance, they will always have a special place in my heard that neither iron, gold or netherite could ever hope to replicate.

  • @shhinysilver1720
    @shhinysilver1720 Год назад +4189

    I remember when gold was absolutely hated, but that was when people ignored the fact that it could be used for things other than tools and armor, and now it is very valuable for golden apples.

    • @crashwave299
      @crashwave299 Год назад +181

      And in the past before the removal for the crafting recipe on the enchanted golden apple that needed more gold than ever

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld Год назад +90

      If one played nether survival, one realized that gold did work 'enough' that it was common that when one finally was able to returned to the OW one would be clad in all or mostly all gold. Interestingly (and unrelated), gold is also the most enchantable armor and with a little tweaking it could have been a choice between durable diamond and enchantable gold as the top tier.

    • @crashwave299
      @crashwave299 Год назад +20

      @@DavidStrchld but also has THE lowest of any sets durability by far

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld Год назад +48

      @@crashwave299 Yes as I said it would require retweeting to have done that. Perhaps more durability or higher levels of unbreaking and other stuff available only for Gold.

    • @crashwave299
      @crashwave299 Год назад +7

      @@DavidStrchld but the question is will the players accept a retweaked gold set and tools back as a real wearable armor?

  • @mcedge3368
    @mcedge3368 Год назад +2197

    I think something you missed is the addition of mending. Diamonds went from something you needed to repeatedly mine for to stop your gear breaking, to something you only needed to get once and let mending take care of your gear

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +326

      Yep, I forgot to mention that as well, they made tools too permanent and as such made diamonds less needed since you can get like a full stack and never have to mine any more once mending is unlocked.

    • @jah2580
      @jah2580 Год назад +194

      @@Hi_Im_o2 I never understood why making tools too expensive to repair is even a mechanic, should just be a flat resource rate such as 3 diamonds to repair a pickaxe.
      Items eventually becoming too expensive to repair in turn makes mending a requirement for enchanted gear.

    • @augustday9483
      @augustday9483 Год назад +10

      Between fortune which makes it easy to get lots of diamonds, and mending which makes you only need diamonds "once", they must aren't rare anymore.

    • @willywestsidee
      @willywestsidee Год назад +7

      Just don't use mending then

    • @sun5705
      @sun5705 Год назад +4

      Also, many villagers send diamond stuff.

  • @snail_stuff
    @snail_stuff 10 месяцев назад +22

    I think the main reason why diamonds started to fall off was because they were never given any new uses up until smithing templates. For a long time now, they were just used for tools, enchant tables, and jukeboxes.

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 6 месяцев назад

      And they're made a lot more common

    • @YaoHey.Official
      @YaoHey.Official 5 месяцев назад +1

      Jukeboxes requiring diamonds is still kind of crazy to me lol

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@YaoHey.Official Not that crazy, early real life jukeboxes uses diamonds so it's a cool fun fact if anything AND jukeboxes are purely vanity blocks anyway

    • @slowfreq
      @slowfreq 4 дня назад

      They made the top-tier tools and armor. Why would they need another use?

  • @MlMZY630
    @MlMZY630 10 месяцев назад +14

    Gosh, your scripting is so good. The flow of your videos is perfectly, keeping me hanging on every word and transitioning between topics and summarizing absolutely perfectly! Amazing work, thank you for your videos!

  • @PervonHarke
    @PervonHarke Год назад +2833

    I remember playing the 30 minutes demo version of Minecraft just to repeatedly dig down to find diamonds before the 30 minutes ended.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +348

      Damn, find diamonds speedrun any %

    • @AlqhemyA
      @AlqhemyA Год назад +15

      @@XayXayYT ong

    • @madman7544
      @madman7544 Год назад +19

      I used to do that once I even made a nether portal

    • @Alex_Munoz5
      @Alex_Munoz5 Год назад +17

      TRUEEEE the Xbox 360 demo, I remember you spawned in a small area and there was an (empty) kind of village (no villagers introduced yet) great times

    • @Rudxain
      @Rudxain Год назад +3

      I remember doing this in 1.8, but trying to find Redstone instead. I never found it though 😕

  • @Bosh7066
    @Bosh7066 Год назад +1636

    Even in the new versions I still feel that rush of dopamine when finding diamonds, more than netherite, they still hold great value to me as a player since 2012

    • @Young_Chef76
      @Young_Chef76 Год назад +49

      Yea,i'm a player since 2017 and finding diamonds its more exciting than finding netherite for me.

    • @gyroman567
      @gyroman567 Год назад +18

      Same bro I started playing back in 1.2.5 and I still feel excitement whenever I find diamonds

    • @jonallen7619
      @jonallen7619 Год назад +13

      @@Young_Chef76 2017? lol not an og player

    • @abyssmage6979
      @abyssmage6979 Год назад +66

      @@jonallen7619 bro's gatekeeping on a block game 💀

    • @jonallen7619
      @jonallen7619 Год назад

      @@abyssmage6979 really tho, the guy started playing in 2017, what a loser

  • @ThisMrMister
    @ThisMrMister 10 месяцев назад +9

    That's actually a good point mentioning Diamond has never changed over the course of the years compared to iron and gold

  • @autumnleaf4380
    @autumnleaf4380 7 месяцев назад +28

    It’s wild to watch this because I recently went from playing the latest version (1.20) to playing on a 1.8 server and suddenly the rush of finding diamonds came right back to me. It really does feel dependent on the version, and it was made expressly clear to me the difference when I hopped from a superflat world where I easily traded for all my diamond gear to an anarchy server where diamonds are a resource you had to protect at all costs

  • @patrykwojcik6197
    @patrykwojcik6197 Год назад +1742

    as a veteran minecraft player, since the beginning till now, i'm so pleased and satisfied every time i get diamonds, because they are like such a treasure for me, even in these newer versions they've stayed in my mind as something of value.

    • @stanleybochenek1862
      @stanleybochenek1862 Год назад +27

      same man

    • @stanleybochenek1862
      @stanleybochenek1862 Год назад +7

      same..

    • @CrioChamber
      @CrioChamber Год назад +11

      Same. I've been with the game since Alpha 1.1.2_01

    • @theextracrispycolonel9504
      @theextracrispycolonel9504 Год назад +3

      Oh absolutely

    • @LittleGoblinBoi
      @LittleGoblinBoi Год назад +31

      Same! I play more casually, so I'm stuck at Iron tools/armour for *AGES*, so finding diamonds is still a big event for me.
      I rarely get to a full stack, since I mostly focus on building instead of caving, and I rarely use automatic farms. I do everything manually and I use villager trades sparingly. Automation, for singleplayer at least, sucks the fun out of the game in my opinion.

  • @hallowedknightyt1892
    @hallowedknightyt1892 Год назад +1213

    We can't forget that Netherite basically took the role of diamonds by being the hardest stuff to acquire, while being the most broken material to use for equipment

    • @Lyokoheros-KLPXTV
      @Lyokoheros-KLPXTV Год назад +108

      Netherite didn't really took the role of diamonds. It simply make them better. Upgraded them. They are as needed as before... well actually not as much as before but MORE.

    • @Weird_guy47
      @Weird_guy47 Год назад +8

      Just make bed,its not hardest to acquire

    • @jsw973
      @jsw973 Год назад +40

      @@Weird_guy47 you can explode things with anything you want, you're still going to get more diamonds per hour than ancient debris on average. That means it is still the hardest material to get, even though it might not be hard for you.

    • @dominusalicorn3684
      @dominusalicorn3684 Год назад +44

      I really don't think netherite caused diamonds to go down in popularity, I think Mojang realized diamonds had already gone way down and thus they introduced a new material that would, as you say, fill the role that diamonds had lost.

    • @MrMoron-qn5rx
      @MrMoron-qn5rx Год назад +19

      @@dominusalicorn3684 true.
      Back in the old days, diamonds were REALLY hard to get. Enchants were rare, repairs wernt infinite, and you had to put in manual effort to get diamonds, or get lucky with a villager, who traded completely random shit. And if you did villager trading for dia stuff chances were you got garbage.
      Nowadays dia gear can be farmed using villagers with the right block near them, and be reset just as easy.
      Not only that, but lots of structures nowadays have a chance to have diamonds in them, making it so you dont even need to mine for them.
      I do want to make clear that im not picking a side on wether diamonds were better in the past or not, but they are less rare than they used to be.
      I will pick a side with iron though, as it has seen the reverse of whats happening to diamonds.
      Iron nowadays has a LOT of uses. From minecarts and rails to pistons and hoppers, there is a LOT of use for iron. however there is just one renewable way to get iron, and its something that mojang doesnt actually want: the iron golem farm.
      mojang has tried for years to make iron golem farms useless, from making the golem drop nuggets instead of iron bars (thats why nuggets exist btw) to making it tedious. they REALLY dont like it...
      however, there isnt really a alternative anymore. if you want enough iron to fuel your base during normal gameplay, or god forbid you wanna automate something, you REQUIRE a iron farm. theres no alternative in the base game. sure there have been things that increase iron yield in the base game, however those options dont actually fix the problem. and sure, there are mods, but if you need mods to fix a problem that has existed for years now theres a bigger problem that has to be dealt with.

  • @lordofx1smry
    @lordofx1smry 11 месяцев назад +68

    even if diamonds lose their value which it shouldn't, you would never replace the thrill of finding diamonds accidentally. It just feels good finding them. Veteran players (such as myself) would love this resource in the start that this would still have the thrill of finding diamonds even in later updates.

    • @user-uj2mt6nv2g
      @user-uj2mt6nv2g 7 месяцев назад +3

      Yea but the problem is, there are so much diamonds even in caves now. You can just breeze through BIG caves and find 20-30 diamonds per hour without ever mining your way through. And when i started playing, the only ways to find some were canyons or lava pools above bedrock, and getting a full set was a real achievement.

    • @uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk
      @uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk Месяц назад

      @@user-uj2mt6nv2g-has not played minecraft in the last 4 years and is simply going off of videos he watched

    • @comet.x
      @comet.x Месяц назад

      ​@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk 10 minutes. if you sort of try.
      10 minutes from spawning in to dive into the nearest cave with nothing but a bucket of water and some logs, and quickly get diamonds.
      or, you could just not even go caving. go treasure hunting, villager trading, wreck diving...

  • @MarkLev111
    @MarkLev111 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for making this video. Now I can answer that question about diamonds that we all had to my friends and we can cry about them once again

  • @clobzz
    @clobzz Год назад +1529

    they need to add more uses for diamond tbh, i was actually shocked to find that we havent gotten a single use for diamond since they were added

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +267

      Same here, I realised during researching that diamond updates were basically updates to make them easier to get.

    • @garr_inc
      @garr_inc Год назад +46

      Yeah. And most of the gear we find made of diamond is negligible because one usually has a standard set already. And definitely enough resources to recreate it in an event of falling to the void.

    • @aropoppy
      @aropoppy Год назад +53

      the only new use for diamonds we got made the diamonds obsolete (Netherite)

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Год назад +59

      @@aropoppy yea thats literally it diamonds these days are just a stop gap until you can get Netherite

    • @matts2080
      @matts2080 Год назад +3

      Yea for sure!
      Like technology

  • @ReturnofBenjamin
    @ReturnofBenjamin Год назад +792

    It says a lot that in the Hermitcraft server, the primary use for diamonds is as currency, not building material--and they keep having to reset the economy because of diamond-glut.

    • @deadinside44123
      @deadinside44123 Год назад +84

      i actually love that tho. it’s rare , but not too rare. it’s more effective than iron and gold and has way more uses than emerald. its like the perfect currency! and if i’m not mistaken, they do trade netherite sometimes

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Год назад +83

      @@deadinside44123
      Netherite trade must be some black-market levels of stuff out there.

    • @deadinside44123
      @deadinside44123 Год назад +14

      @@EperkeGMD especially with all the methods of iron golem farms. if that’s what you meant by mass farms then i agree. stuff like that is textbook to the hermitcraft members now lol

    • @deadinside44123
      @deadinside44123 Год назад +1

      @@thalmoragent9344 LOL

    • @Joykye
      @Joykye Год назад +4

      @@deadinside44123 diamond has wayyyyy less uses than emeralds, trading is probably one of the most underrated aspects of the game. You can get an insane variety of useful items (including diamond gear) almost instantly

  • @Chadfill8348
    @Chadfill8348 9 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe I'm insanely unlucky, but it still takes me several caves and ravines to find a single stack of diamond

  • @itzomm_main
    @itzomm_main 9 месяцев назад

    Bro your content is crazy good, LOVE IT keep it up❤❤

  • @darkdude1996ify
    @darkdude1996ify Год назад +1284

    It also feels like Mending made diamonds feel obsolete as you progress in your world. You use a fair amount of them in the beginning in order to make your gear, your enchantment tables etc, but eventually you already have everything you needed diamonds for. Your gear doesn't break because of Mending, so in the end any new diamonds you get are just kind of useless. You turn them into blocks to save storage space, and eventually you start using them for the most random things because your chest with diamond blocks is almost full

    • @irenaveksler1935
      @irenaveksler1935 Год назад +35

      Then
      You turn all your armour and tools into nether right

    • @jessieansell6168
      @jessieansell6168 Год назад +76

      Mending kinda ruins the game for me. Constantly maintaining gear through levels and repairs is a better game play loop imo. Keeps everything relevant without cannibalizing content like mending does

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 Год назад +37

      My Minecraft method is now: grow paper, capture librarian, trade up to name tag, make iron farm, capture weaponsmith, armorer and toolsmith, trade iron for emeralds, trade emeralds for diamond tools and armour. I make buckets and find surface lava to make portals. Never need to mine until I locate the end Portal.

    • @Ethan-tm8dj
      @Ethan-tm8dj Год назад +14

      @@jessieansell6168 cannibalizing what content? just more strip mining

    • @jessieansell6168
      @jessieansell6168 Год назад +20

      @@Ethan-tm8dj Yeah, for a game called Minecraft, I sure do next to 0 mining nowadays. You make 1 trip down to gather a small inventory and then you never go underground again. Kinda sad.

  • @crimmy838
    @crimmy838 Год назад +400

    I once had to retire my diamond armor and go back to iron since I was going through a set every couple hours, not because I was going to run out, but because I needed them as currency to buy buttloads of lava buckets for my smelters on the server I was on. It was such a rush realizing that diamonds were no longer the end goal, and that by utilizing their worth to others I became one of the bigger powers on the server, at least for a small time. Was kinda neat since I was a carrot farmer beforehand

  • @markstewart9666
    @markstewart9666 8 месяцев назад

    Great vid, worth a sub :) I have a couple of stacks of diamonds now, more than I need, but man I still get a buzz when I find them in a cave!

  • @christophersidamon
    @christophersidamon 10 месяцев назад +5

    "why diamonds don't feel special anymore" meanwhile me using my 54th stone pickaxe strip mining for diamonds only to get 4 after more than 30 minutes

    • @russman3787
      @russman3787 9 дней назад

      Stop strip mining and go caving

    • @TFrills
      @TFrills 7 дней назад +1

      use an iron pickaxe

    • @christophersidamon
      @christophersidamon 7 дней назад

      @@TFrills i made sure not to waste my iron pickaxe at stone because if i did, i might find diamonds but never have any iron pickaxe
      while there was so many iron in caves, i might have watched a _little_ too much creepypastas and never went in the caves

    • @TheMilanese
      @TheMilanese 4 дня назад +1

      Skill issue

    • @christophersidamon
      @christophersidamon 4 дня назад

      @@TheMilanese i can't deny that, maybe i actually have one

  • @myselfdestructivebehavior
    @myselfdestructivebehavior Год назад +492

    honestly i’m so sorry for diamonds ☹️ they’re like that one kid that was popular in fifth grade and everyone wanted to be friends with them, but after the years they got less popular, never had a glow up, and lost all their friends.

  • @lightishredgummi9654
    @lightishredgummi9654 Год назад +248

    never realized that there were so few crafting recipes that use diamonds, seems like a super weird oversight that they haven't added more.

  • @whatsevenhappening8295
    @whatsevenhappening8295 4 месяца назад

    Yeah I understand but I still do get excited each time I find a Diamond xd
    Amazing video, made me think of the past.

  • @hildalaw7627
    @hildalaw7627 5 месяцев назад

    u just earned a sub(i also watched ur villager ivd)

  • @nightowlorder2750
    @nightowlorder2750 Год назад +171

    After the 1.18 update, diamonds became obscenely common. You could go into a cave with a fortune 3 pick and 0 diamonds and come out with a stack or more diamonds.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +33

      Honestly, while that did affect diamond's rarity, I find the rework of diamonds in mines to be better overall because I find strip mining to be really boring. But they should've followed up 1.18 with a new recipe for diamonds to give player something to use all these diamonds on.

    • @nightowlorder2750
      @nightowlorder2750 Год назад

      @@XayXayYT Yeah, you got a point...

    • @ByZe.
      @ByZe. Год назад +5

      nah it was mainly 1.17 which made diamonds common, then in 1.18 they made it rare again

    • @nightowlorder2750
      @nightowlorder2750 Год назад +1

      @@ByZe. 1.17 did nothing to diamonds because it was not the update that added caves and the lower world, just some new blocks. No ore spawning was changed. 1.18 added the caves and low world. That means that when you go into a low cave, you have thousands of blocks being exposed to your eyes. They did add a limited air exposure rule, but that is negligible when you have that many blocks that you can see that can be diamond. In addition, the rule does not apply when you see diamonds in an aquifer. And finally, they changed ore mechanics so that diamonds can spawn even more frequently in the low negatives of your world than they could spawn before 1.18. All of that happened in 1.18 not 1.17. Lol sorry I wrote an essay trust me I do have a life...

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Год назад

      Villagers destroyed their value. Get some farmers and a pumpkin press, and then a city full of toolsmiths and armor smiths and you never need to mine diamonds ever again.

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 Год назад +447

    I stopped playing minecraft long ago, but have always continued to keep up with it by watching videos. You know how many minecraft parodies included diamonds in any sort of way? So many. If anything they're a big part of minecraft's identity back then.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +38

      I definitely considered adding those songs in the video actually, but felt I couldn't add them without breaking the flow too much with like "mine the diamonds" from tobuscus LMAO

    • @irenaveksler1935
      @irenaveksler1935 Год назад +14

      @@XayXayYTDiamonds are like the popular kid in high school with a lot of friends but suddenly high school was their peak and they eventually lost all their friends and they never went up with a glow up

    • @randomguyonyoutube3478
      @randomguyonyoutube3478 9 месяцев назад

      If I may ask, why did you stop playing minecraft?

    • @mtgstudios1556
      @mtgstudios1556 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@randomguyonyoutube3478 Theres some reasons why one might, but altogether most of them are just don't have the time anymore and stuff like that.
      I've stopped a lot of times and for me it mostly boils down to not having any friends or getting motion sick.

    • @randomguyonyoutube3478
      @randomguyonyoutube3478 9 месяцев назад

      @@mtgstudios1556 👍

  • @rugvedkulkarni1593
    @rugvedkulkarni1593 6 месяцев назад +25

    Playing minecreft recently I definately feel like the villagers update completely trivialized finding resources. The ideal strategy for a hardcore worlds is to find a village as soon as possible and trade for all your equipment. You don't need to even step foot in a cave or dig down until your are searicng for an end portal.

  • @callyral
    @callyral 11 месяцев назад

    they still feel to me, i was so happy and excited when i found a diamond in a world i play with my friends

  • @anielabogusz2719
    @anielabogusz2719 Год назад +174

    i think one thing you're forgetting about diamonds' demand is that before the grindstone (and before enchanted books especially) if you got a bad enchant on your tool while trying to get a maxed out one, you had to make a new one

    • @qrzone8167
      @qrzone8167 Год назад +6

      crafting two pickaxes together would reset the enchantments, but you're still right. The grindstone made it so that you didn't have to pay three diamonds to try an enchantment again. Villagers also make enchantment tables completely pointless because you can just pick what enchantments you want now.

    • @shawermus
      @shawermus Год назад +1

      @@qrzone8167 yeah, the ruinage of game balance...

  • @theextracrispycolonel9504
    @theextracrispycolonel9504 Год назад +295

    No matter what is added throughout the years, diamonds will forever remain special for me.

    • @elite69
      @elite69 Год назад +11

      Yes me also. Every time I find Diamonds, that becomes an unforgettable moment for me. Even in my whole life I can't forget. The Happiness I get can't be compared with any things.

    • @jasonrubik
      @jasonrubik Год назад +5

      ​@@elite69 The "very first" diamonds I ever found were in Beta 1.2. While mining I found something blue. I saved it in a chest. Later in Beta 1.3 the tooltips appeared, and I learned that it was Lapis. After all these years, I assumed that item tooltips were added in Beta 1.3, but I just learned that these were added in Beta 1.0 ( before i started playing ). So I am confused as to why they were missing for me in Beta 1.2.... thus leading to my aforementioned confusion ! LOL !

    • @jasonrubik
      @jasonrubik Год назад +2

      Same for me, as I am an old school veteran player that rarely enchants anything, and have never had Netherite armor, or even an Elytra for that matter.

    • @elite69
      @elite69 Год назад +1

      @@jasonrubik Oh

  • @BurrritoYT
    @BurrritoYT 11 месяцев назад +3

    11:52 As a Mr. Incredible fan that has gone very deep into the rabbit hole, from uncannytuples to Phase 35, I appreciate the brief reference.

  • @joshuaLenz-lp7cr
    @joshuaLenz-lp7cr 8 месяцев назад

    After hearing this and looking back, I think it's a great thing. Armor trims were added.

  • @binkus_
    @binkus_ Год назад +717

    This is super underrated.
    By the way, I don't exactly get what you mean by 'not special anymore'. Finding diamonds is one of the best feelings I get from Minecraft, especially when I've been mining deepslate for 10 minutes with an iron pickaxe and I suddenly stumble into a vein of 8 diamonds.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +155

      I'm glad that diamonds are still one of the best experiences for you my dude, and this video isn't meant to take that away from you.
      My point was that it isn't special anymore because it lost what made it so important at the early stages of the game. You no longer need it for diamond tools when trading exists and you no longer need it for enchantments when... well trading exists again. It also no longer gives that excitement since it's now less rarer than ancient debris.
      So in a way, it's a bit of a nostalgic lens, it doesn't feel as awesome as the first time you mine diamonds and with the game being updated more and more, it feels less and less awesome. But my point is that Mojang could give diamonds a new recipe or new use in future updates to make it interesting again, especially for long-time players.
      That aside, I'm glad the video was enjoyable to you my friend!

    • @WhatIsMyPorpoise
      @WhatIsMyPorpoise Год назад +60

      @@XayXayYT I think it might also have to do with the fact that any publicly watched server ever uses diamonds... basically like cash. It's rare and non renewable. Meaning there's no automatic method to getting a ton of diamonds, so it acts as a stable currency. This is why mojang doesn't add to diamonds. If there were more resource sinks for diamonds, earning diamonds to spend in servers would become more difficult.
      In survival, yeah diamonds don't mean much. Once you got them, they're pretty much there for you to flex with. But on servers, you're constantly trying to make diamonds to buy blocks in bulk to ease the block gathering process.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +35

      @@WhatIsMyPorpoise ah, honestly that's a good point. I suppose servers using diaminds as a form of currency could've made Mojang more hesistant to add new uses.

    • @juice999owitz17._.
      @juice999owitz17._. Год назад +2

      True and you need diamond for Netherite

    • @Dalek_Caan_Sharksofsliver
      @Dalek_Caan_Sharksofsliver Год назад +4

      Idk, I play a lot of modded Minecraft admittedly in older version but diamond is like a mid tier ore compared to some of the other ores.
      Yet diamonds are still a nice surprise for me.
      Also kinda unrelated but screw the combat update :)

  • @makotothompson8480
    @makotothompson8480 Год назад +286

    All of the servers I make with my friends get cut short and I think it is because of villagers. I will come up from the mines with a few diamonds and my friends will have full diamond gear by staying at their base and using villagers. Diamonds are viewed now as a basic set of armor because you can get an infinite amount using villagers. Instead of being worried to die with your diamonds, you know you will just get another full set almost instantly. Instead of risking it in the mines, you get more value from staying inside. Instead of mining (which I find enjoyable) you grind with villagers and use glitches to get nearly the best gear.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Год назад +25

      Pumpkin farm + villagers = infinite emeralds = infinite diamond gear

    • @thepandrbr
      @thepandrbr Год назад +2

      Can you explain what glitches youre reffering to?

    • @Wesley-1776
      @Wesley-1776 Год назад +30

      Honestly yeah. This is why I prefer lore SMPs now over normal let’s plays when watching YT.
      It’s not fun watching a RUclipsr just trade for anything they would need and build mega bases. It was cool watching them work for enough resources to build a basic base that could cover an island.
      Modern Minecraft is too easy and it’s become more of a platform to create content with instead of the content it’s self.

    • @mlmii1933
      @mlmii1933 Год назад +3

      ​@@thepandrbr ...
      I assume either void trading or the infinite emerald loops.

    • @unapersonamas5941
      @unapersonamas5941 Год назад

      @@Wesley-1776 what lore smps would u recommend to watch

  • @jxc1640
    @jxc1640 10 месяцев назад +1

    I still see some value in them as a sort of mark of how far I’ve come in the world
    Also nice to use them (*sparingly*) in new building projects like in a throne room for a palace, that sort of thing

  • @catagamas
    @catagamas 11 месяцев назад +13

    Caves and Cliffs update also made them SUPER easy to find in the lowerest layers, I was playing just today with my friend and we find a boggling 64 diamonds in like, 30 minutes. They were literally one next to the other,

  • @Twisted_Code
    @Twisted_Code Год назад +94

    as an aspiring game designer/developer, I appreciate your thoughtful analysis of the game's economy.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +13

      Yep! Honestly this video was a big analysis of power creeping at its finest, it's something that aspiring game creators have to pay attention to moving forward

  • @HumanoidDerpling
    @HumanoidDerpling Год назад +211

    Another thing you forgot to mention in the "players got better" section is how players have developed strats to get the most diamonds possible. Mining at Y 11 or 12, the Lapis trick (both of which were overturned in 1.18, but the most efficient level is now Y -57 or so), and crawl mining have all made diamonds way less time-consuming to get if you were looking for them. Of course, this is only one of Minecraft's many flaws.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +24

      Yep, I should've mentioned the fact that strip mining played a huge part in that as well. Good catch.

    • @HumanoidDerpling
      @HumanoidDerpling Год назад +5

      @@XayXayYT Thanks! Not to mention there's nothing more infuriating than realizing the best way to get resources is to mindlessly break blocks, rather than exploring the caves.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Год назад +5

      idk why, but I feel like strip mining in Beta was more fun and enjoyable than modern strip mining. It felt like there was a mystery to it for some reason.

    • @kstchl35
      @kstchl35 Год назад +2

      And then there's the swamp clay strat

    • @HumanoidDerpling
      @HumanoidDerpling Год назад

      @@kstchl35 Yeah.

  • @myalt3019
    @myalt3019 9 месяцев назад +14

    I think another issue is that the texture for diamond ore is a lot less bright. I miss the days of the ore being so blue it almost hurt my eyes, it felt more special

  • @kjlgamez
    @kjlgamez 9 месяцев назад

    Idk, I still get exited when I find them, but I get your point

  • @Vendetta_killer
    @Vendetta_killer Год назад +206

    I agree, diamonds need more special crafting recipes like enchanting tables for them to really feel special again

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +43

      Yep, rather than try to make them compete with netherite, give diamonds a new use that's exclusive to them like shields with iron or golden apples with gold

    • @McMikey78
      @McMikey78 Год назад +5

      @@XayXayYT especially as diamond tools and armor can be acquired from villagers to allow diamonds to be utilized for other things

    • @Vendetta_killer
      @Vendetta_killer Год назад

      @@McMikey78 yeah, atleast Mojang should make those trades really expensive and without offers

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 Год назад +4

      Agree. They should get new usess. Why shields don't have tiers like tools? Why not create redstone components thats need diamonds?

  • @hithereireallysuck
    @hithereireallysuck Год назад +871

    Who would've guessed that, just a month after this video came out, the addition of armor trims would add THE FIRST NEW DIAMOND RECIPE SINCE BETA 1.9
    It's not all that practical; costing 7 diamonds just to duplicate a purely decorative item, but it's proof that they've caught on to this problem as well, and hopefully they'll add more as development goes on

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +75

      I hope so too!

    • @alliinase9076
      @alliinase9076 Год назад +73

      You'll also need netherite templates to upgrade diamond equipment, and cloning those templates will also require 7 diamonds. So there is a practical use in that sense, and netherite equipment is now harder to obtain (and now bastion remnant is a required visit for the tech tree).
      Pretty interesting changes.

    • @hithereireallysuck
      @hithereireallysuck Год назад +9

      @@alliinase9076 That is true, and it can also be used as a material for lining the armor itself, so yeah it's definitely made diamonds quite a bit more useful

    • @freevbucks8019
      @freevbucks8019 Год назад +4

      I hope those things add extra traits to the armor.
      For example gold trims make it so enchantments directly from the table are better or iron trims on leather boots give more armor without compromising the ability to walk on powdered snow.
      Possibilities could be endless, y'know?

    • @hithereireallysuck
      @hithereireallysuck Год назад +3

      ​@@freevbucks8019 Not yet, but that honestly sounds like a really cool and unique idea! Maybe it could also change certain stats depending on which pattern it is, so like the prismarine one could give you momentary water breathing, or the deep dark one could somehow relate to those mechanics, idk​

  • @raiyanmansuri
    @raiyanmansuri 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for making my dinner so peaceful . Btw your voice is so calming first time ate your channel and i feel bad for diamonda because everytime i visit any server some guy came and give me full diamond armour like its nothing :(

  • @smartestgirl
    @smartestgirl 11 месяцев назад +10

    5:57
    I've never heard anyone say "pun intended!" It's always "pun not intended."

    • @Ironicalyy
      @Ironicalyy 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's the point, the pun is intended

    • @smartestgirl
      @smartestgirl 5 месяцев назад

      @@Ironicalyy Ik

  • @katleido
    @katleido Год назад +189

    I think another thing that made diamonds less fun to get is the new deepslate layer/ore distribution changes they made. Before, you could mine through stone easily, finding other ores and interesting cave systems along the way, but now there’s the slower to mine through deepslate and basically the only ores you can find at the best levels are diamonds, redstone, and the occasional gold and iron if you get lucky. It makes strip mining more tedious than it once was in my opinion

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +42

      It was a double edged sword change I'd say, it made strip mining less effective which encouraged players to explore caves to find them. So players like me who didn't like strip mining loved the change since it made diamonds more interesting to find, but it made players who just wanted to get diamonds and prefer strip mining to lose out on their favourite method.

    • @lauren_e_s
      @lauren_e_s Год назад +13

      I agree. Now mining is so tedious that it's better to skip the classic-style early game and just go straight to a villager-based early game.

    • @Niyucuatro
      @Niyucuatro Год назад +3

      And that tells me villagers where a mistake and should at least be somehow gated.

    • @themadkat3374
      @themadkat3374 Год назад +6

      In addition, caving has also become a huge pain. Caverns are so large now that you often end up with 20+ paths to follow, which sounds cool until you realize just how much surface area you have to light up. Even if you don't have a bunch of paths to follow, there are often massive caverns that would take stacks of torches to fully mob proof. On top of that, diamonds have reduced air exposure, meaning when you're caving you're constantly thinking about how much more you could probably find if you were strip mining, and you already stated the problems with that.

    • @fluffydoggo
      @fluffydoggo Год назад +1

      @@themadkat3374 in a game about mining, I'm surprised subnautica has a better mining system with ways to backtrack easier than MINEcraft. The worst feeling is getting lost in a cave with no choice except to dig straight up

  • @chazzat3113
    @chazzat3113 Год назад +238

    I think one thing worth mentioning that kept diamonds valuable for me is the fact that you can only break obsidian with a diamond pickaxe, so this to me was the only way I could get to the nether other than using buckets which I didnt know how too use and its use in the enchanting table meaning I could get Fortune and looting which were my favourite enchantments, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe which is another use for diamonds

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +27

      For a basic 10 block nether portal, build upwards and place water on one of the top 2 obsidian positions, then just place lava around it.
      As for enchantments, librarians kind of made it easier, since you don't have to cycle through multiple bad ones on an enchanting table.

    • @chazzat3113
      @chazzat3113 Год назад +12

      @@XayXayYTahah so diamonds are even more useless than I thought lol thanks this is helpful, I might have a go on minecraft again, its lost its magic for a while now it just dosent feel the same for some reason, I hope I can get that feeling back one day, I think the new updates have made it feel too different from its original beauty, although the updates are really good im definitely not hating on the owners of minecraft, especially the nether update that one was my favourite

    • @JustADumbFanatic
      @JustADumbFanatic Год назад +3

      Not to mention the nether ruins that added, you can easily go to nether with them

    • @beez1717
      @beez1717 Год назад +1

      I think it really is a gateway to the nether because even though you can make a nether portal without diamonds, you're going to need diamond armor in case a ghast decides to sneak up on you and ruin your day.

    • @chazzat3113
      @chazzat3113 Год назад +1

      @@beez1717 I totally agree, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe so that gives them another important use, diamonds are still useful just not as precious as the early days of minecraft

  • @KyleDraws1677
    @KyleDraws1677 2 месяца назад +2

    17:22
    Him: "Minecraft is getting too comlicated!"
    Terraria in the background: *Starts sweating*

    • @flariz4824
      @flariz4824 2 месяца назад +1

      Both games commited the same sin and thats more or less why I eventually dropped them both.

    • @affordablex4914
      @affordablex4914 2 месяца назад +1

      @@flariz4824 Nah. Complexity adds to both games.

    • @cagykoala6004
      @cagykoala6004 Месяц назад

      @@flariz4824 weirdo

  • @sssugarquartzzz
    @sssugarquartzzz 3 месяца назад +2

    7:11 bro when he said that, my like button got a little animation effect around it. When did they add that to RUclips?? That was neat

  • @Maxidos
    @Maxidos Год назад +431

    I think the reason that they never added more recipes for diamonds is probably because they wanted everything that diamonds don’t already use that they could’ve used to be easily accessible. They never intended for people to get stacks of diamond blocks, they intended for you to get diamond armour and enchantments and then never mine for diamonds again.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +64

      I'd have to disagree though, if they never intended for me to mine diamonds after armour and enchantments then mending didn't need to be added to the game though no?

    • @darth3911
      @darth3911 Год назад +46

      @@XayXayYTIt could be argued that mending was added so that diamond tools/armor will never need other diamond replacements.
      A better example of your point can be easier shown with crafting recipes which require diamonds, even then there’s not many of them.

    • @xXsoldat_pantherXx
      @xXsoldat_pantherXx Год назад

      Well then the nether update came

    • @alfonsovallejo2665
      @alfonsovallejo2665 Год назад +5

      Maybe make notch apples craftable and add diamonds to the recipes.

    • @juderadday1661
      @juderadday1661 Год назад +1

      Yeah, but pretty much every recipie including diamonds you can buy from villagers. Whenever I play with my friends, we get fletchers to get emeralds from wood, then we level up armorsmiths, toolsmiths, and weaponsmiths to buy Diamond stuff for less than half a stack of emeralds, this isn’t even accounting zombie trades.

  • @hmmmok9441
    @hmmmok9441 Год назад +371

    You forgot to mention one more thing: Ancient Cities. While starting my hardcore survival playthrough I managed to find an ancient city and successfully looted it (well, partially. Almost died to the warden) and i had enough diamonds to craft an entire set of tools and a chestplate
    Edit: Also I found 2 god apples

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +49

      Damn I completely forgot 1.19 existed, good catch!

    • @valletas
      @valletas Год назад +12

      Ancient cities are really rare though so i dont think thats an issue

    • @mrjuicejunior
      @mrjuicejunior Год назад +14

      @@XayXayYT I thought I was the only one who forgot 1.19 existed. Also, I feel like after 1.17, the Minecraft updates felt forgettable to me due to it being minimalistic, but like I said, maybe it is just me.

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld Год назад +7

      AC's are weird as the warden damage bypasses armor, and is meant to avoid instead of kill, so if you can get into one early game you have about the same chance that a well equipped player has. This means one can quickly acquire high end gear. Unquestionably a hail Mary approach but when it works it works well and can get one deep into the game progression very early and bypass a lot of the stages.

    • @darth3911
      @darth3911 Год назад

      @@XayXayYTFunny thing is if your lucky enough you can find the whole armor and tool set without using any extra diamonds.
      If you can find all the gear then you’ll basically have a stack of diamonds from both ores laying around and of course from chests.

  • @GenDrag1
    @GenDrag1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love your accent man, hearing syllables and tones in your voice calms the inner monkey inside my brain
    10/10

  • @semaj6308
    @semaj6308 9 месяцев назад

    i love your humor so much

  • @SarpErsoy
    @SarpErsoy Год назад +71

    I remember when I first found my first emerald by digging down and falling inside a ravine. I barely died and I mined it with stone pickaxe. This was a decade ago and I never forgot how disappointed I was lol

  • @Joykye
    @Joykye Год назад +654

    Three decent ideas to bring diamonds back to their initial status.
    First one as mentioned in the video, rails are slow. Powered rails are slightly faster, but some type of diamond powered rails should be significantly faster, potentially faster than elytra. Requiring them for long distance consistent transportation.
    Second is filtered hoppers. The name says it all. It would just be a hopper with a diamond in it that can only allow certain items to get through.
    Third are drill blocks. Blocks that break the block in front of them when activated with redstone. Has durability like an anvil and revolutionizes many farms.
    All of these are blocks that could be used for complex builds that progress the player further with the more diamonds you have

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Год назад +105

      4th idea. Diamonds for ENCHANTED golden apples. Because you cannot farm diamonds, it brings back the importance of going out and mining for the raw diamond. Using a golden apple, just surround it with 8 diamonds and boom, you have the most legendary and best food in the game. Not only that, but it brings back the status symbol as if you have a stack of these, it means you had to get 8 stacks of diamonds! Not exactly easy.

    • @krzysztofchlebio8513
      @krzysztofchlebio8513 Год назад +14

      True this should be 100% implemented as a new redstone overhaul

    • @kairon5249
      @kairon5249 Год назад +40

      @@howardbaxter2514 i think 6 diamonds and 2 blocks is more balanced, because 8 diamonds is essentially the same as finding one diamond vein with fortune 3

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead Год назад +6

      I don't think diamonds will ever go back to the way they were way back when in Minecraft, the game has changed, deal with it.
      As some other people have pointed out in the various comments, netherite has taken the place of diamonds and at some point down the road something is likely going to take the place of netherite.

    • @miimiiandco.8721
      @miimiiandco.8721 Год назад +4

      I don't think Diamonds need consistent sinks, though it wouldn't be a horrible idea to make Diamonds even rarer, since mending exists, and you only need to make one set of tools and armour to be set for life (until you die), rather than constantly having to replenish it after they break.

  • @Coldcolor900
    @Coldcolor900 8 месяцев назад +1

    I remember screaming “DIAMONDS” at the top of my lungs when I found my first vein in survival.
    Now, the biggest reaction they get from me is an “oh cool.” It’s almost like I have been desensitized from the value they are supposed to have.

    • @user-uj2mt6nv2g
      @user-uj2mt6nv2g 7 месяцев назад

      Well now you can even get a full diamond set BEFORE getting any iron OR stone, you just need a village and a bunch of sticks!

  • @screamingtaco2190
    @screamingtaco2190 6 месяцев назад +2

    Oh, I do remember the first time that I mined diamonds, I stood on the diamond and directly beneath was lava. I died and lost everything.

  • @chemik1918
    @chemik1918 Год назад +138

    Yes, I really value iron over diamonds because I constantly need it to craft more and more lanterns. I can't stand just placing torches all around my world, they're so ugly I'm just sick of them.

    • @cyanadofai
      @cyanadofai Год назад +9

      omg yes lanterns are so pretty in almost every situations compared to torches

  • @Maxidos
    @Maxidos Год назад +58

    The only automatic farm I can think of that doesn’t use hoppers or pistons is a villager farm, but then you are using rails and mine carts so still everything needs iron

    • @Rorschachqp
      @Rorschachqp Год назад +1

      Lava farm.

    • @FoxSlyme
      @FoxSlyme Год назад +8

      @@Rorschachqp Lava farm uses iron for cauldrons.

    • @vaccuumhelmet521
      @vaccuumhelmet521 Год назад +4

      @@FoxSlyme and what are ya gonna collect all that lava with?

    • @FoxSlyme
      @FoxSlyme Год назад +3

      @@vaccuumhelmet521 that's the point, even the lava farm uses iron

    • @vaccuumhelmet521
      @vaccuumhelmet521 Год назад +3

      @@FoxSlyme I know, I was adding to your comment because I agree

  • @davidbuckley334
    @davidbuckley334 Год назад

    I raided End Cities the other day to find the Spire armor trim template. By the time I found ONE trim template, I had over a stack of diamonds and 3 shulker boxes FULL of enchanted diamond armor, weapons, and tools.

  • @user-ds8bx9um2f
    @user-ds8bx9um2f 4 месяца назад

    I missed the vibe when I was so joyful finding diamonds for the first time, and now the vibe doesn't hit the same anymore

  • @NO_MCCXXII
    @NO_MCCXXII Год назад +43

    While diamonds never really changed in the last decade+, it still puts a smile on my face whenever I spot the beautiful shade of blue in the dark. Aside from that, I agree that diamonds have lost their status and extreme value. And I certainly think diamonds *should* be given more uses.

  • @Targon_Blackpoppy
    @Targon_Blackpoppy Год назад +236

    I don’t know what you’re talking about, my dude. Finding diamonds is still one of the best feelings especially considering how useful they can be.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +54

      I'm glad that diamonds are still one of the best experiences for you my dude, and this video isn't meant to take that away from you.
      This video was simply me trying to outline why updates to the game were important, as well as talking about the history of Iron, gold and diamond at the same time, and I felt that talking about why diamonds need something new could make it interesting again especially for players who've been playing the game for a long time.

    • @Targon_Blackpoppy
      @Targon_Blackpoppy Год назад +22

      @@XayXayYT Yeah, I can see that. Diamonds have definitely lost some value, and it is important to highlight that. Thanks for clarifying.
      P.S., your editing is really good! You deserve more views than this!

    • @AmateurContendr
      @AmateurContendr Год назад +1

      I'm with you. This video felt like it made up a premise and just ran with it as fact.

    • @Bubble528
      @Bubble528 Год назад

      @@AmateurContendr I agree with the video, it doesn't feel the same getting diamonds.

    • @jacobisheden
      @jacobisheden Год назад +2

      getting diamonds doesnt feel the same as earlier

  • @albertograterol5293
    @albertograterol5293 Месяц назад

    Ever since the caves and mines update i had started to find diamonds very commonly, sometimes even before iron.
    So i did wonder if diamonds even felt special to find anymore.

  • @CryoM3ncer
    @CryoM3ncer 11 месяцев назад

    Almost at a million views, keep going!! 👐

  • @TrueReshiram
    @TrueReshiram Год назад +238

    Here's an idea for diamonds to be useful again, allow beacons to use better blocks to affect a much wider area. Make it so netherite is the same strength of diamond for the boost, that way there's no reason to use netherite over diamonds for beacons.
    Iron=default range
    Gold&Emerald= +30% range (small boost due to the ease of obtaining them)
    Diamond&Netherite= +100% range
    And to still let you decorate the beacon like normal just make it so you only need the resource up to the entire inside of the beacon base.

    • @Chris-qb8kg
      @Chris-qb8kg 11 месяцев назад +35

      thats seems stupid though, because netherite is way harder, like extreme hard so just to give it the same range would deflate the need of netherite for a beacon

    • @mexomenti
      @mexomenti 10 месяцев назад +13

      @@Chris-qb8kg because why would you use netherite for a full size beacon in the first place lmao

    • @Chris-qb8kg
      @Chris-qb8kg 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@mexomenti achievement of self pride and accomplishment

    • @myalt3019
      @myalt3019 9 месяцев назад +11

      It'd also fix the tragically short beacon range

    • @Cysfer
      @Cysfer 9 месяцев назад +8

      Netherite beacon = huge flex

  • @rebelraptor4268
    @rebelraptor4268 Год назад +31

    I think what killed it is was 1.16 and 1.18 adding netherite (making diamond essentially obsolete) and the cave update completely changing how they work and taking away from that element of nostalgia every time you mined for them

    • @shaykhmhssi3246
      @shaykhmhssi3246 Год назад +2

      Netherite doesn't make diamonds obsolote though. Netherite can't be used to craft armor or tools directly, it can only upgrade existing diamond armor or tools.

    • @wortwortwort117
      @wortwortwort117 Год назад +1

      @@shaykhmhssi3246 that's their point. You obviously vraft diamond armor to get metherite now

    • @shaykhmhssi3246
      @shaykhmhssi3246 Год назад +1

      @@wortwortwort117 that’s not making diamonds as a resource “obsolete”. The materials are still being used for the same purpose

    • @alliinase9076
      @alliinase9076 Год назад +1

      @@shaykhmhssi3246 That's true, although a lot of players opt for villager trading for the diamond equipment directly, so to some the mineral form is seen as redundant.
      The latest snapshot changes that though, with diamonds now being required to clone netherite templates and being central to the new armor trimming feature.

    • @shaykhmhssi3246
      @shaykhmhssi3246 Год назад

      @@alliinase9076 my point was that the utility of diamonds as a mineral resource wasn’t affected by the original addition of netherite, since the changes to villagers occurred prior

  • @ucros1912
    @ucros1912 14 дней назад

    As someone who never played Minecraft beyond the Village update. (mostly cause I still play on console) When I find diamonds it always makes me smile

  • @bossbrozork3022
    @bossbrozork3022 6 месяцев назад +1

    1.20:here diamond here is some new recipes that need you to duplicate items that are required to customize armors and now make netherite armor.
    Diamond:finally some more uses for me.

  • @DrDeez-do9zo
    @DrDeez-do9zo Год назад +198

    The excitement of finding diamonds in a cave is still pretty cool but finding ancient debris is where the real excitement for me is now.

    • @mikailred4111
      @mikailred4111 Год назад +17

      bruh thats boring... Place bed, right click, left click fires, repeat...

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 Год назад +5

      Ancient debris is pretty trivial to get. It's just a matter of spending a couple of minutes strip mining in the mid to late game.

    • @retroguy3344
      @retroguy3344 Год назад +4

      I still get more pumped for diamonds with full netherite. It’s natural instinct.

    • @bruises.n.bitemarks
      @bruises.n.bitemarks Год назад +3

      ​@@celebrim1The first time I found ancient debris was when I went mining for nether rack for a build, I wasn't even looking for it ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    • @dD-ft1td
      @dD-ft1td Год назад +7

      @@mikailred4111 oh so strip mining is so much more exhilarating

  • @trueobscuregaming
    @trueobscuregaming Год назад +85

    Great video! One additional thing that made them less of a sign of wealth is the fact that fortune allows you to gain a lot of diamonds as soon as you find a few ores. Before enchants, one diamond ore was equal to one diamond. I remember how much diamonds we could stack up on, and how little value they seemed to have after that.
    How would you suggest Mojang fixed the issue of diamonds? I feel like diamonds should have a status like they used to have. Seeing them become less valued is sad and makes no sense.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +14

      That's a good point, I forgot fortunes did play a minor role in reducing the values of diamonds.
      As for how to fix them, I think the addition of Netherite makes them impossible to have the status they used to have. As mentioned at the end of the video, I think they're better off making it stand out by having a new recipe or new use that's exclusive to diamonds. Iron sticks out because it's used for specific things like anvils and shields, whereas Gold sticks out because golden carrots and golden apples are just broken as hell. So maybe give diamond something new to make it more than just "the transitional phase before netherite".
      With that said, I'm glad you enjoyed the video my dude!

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Год назад

      I wouldn't mind if fortune didn't work on diamonds anymore.

    • @nuclearpugg
      @nuclearpugg Год назад

      ​@@williamdrum9899 That would suck lmao

  • @loosinit_mc
    @loosinit_mc 11 месяцев назад +5

    Its also worth noting that diamonds used to be roadblock for entering the nether since you needed to mine obsidian, but now not only does 1 bucket do the job, its much faster

    • @hashtag606
      @hashtag606 9 месяцев назад +1

      what if mixing water and lava made crying obsidian instead of normal obsidian?

    • @hildalaw7627
      @hildalaw7627 5 месяцев назад +1

      he literally said that what listen to the video

  • @Ej-mq2fj
    @Ej-mq2fj 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been playing for years, even at 17 I still get excited when I find diamonds regardless

  • @darkithnamgedrf9495
    @darkithnamgedrf9495 Год назад +108

    There should definitely be a diamond recipe that is a consumable of some sort like gold has bartering, gold apples, and carrots. And iron has anvils, trading, and the myriad of construction blocks with iron needed. Once you make every diamond recipe, you really don’t have any more need of diamonds

    • @Autumnityyy
      @Autumnityyy Год назад +15

      We have golden apples and carrots, now we need diamond potatoes

    • @astrumleaf
      @astrumleaf Год назад

      Well, not anymore

    • @darkithnamgedrf9495
      @darkithnamgedrf9495 Год назад +11

      @@astrumleaf yeah lmao I just saw the trimming stuff and it’s like my prayers have been answered lol

    • @htetmgmg4492
      @htetmgmg4492 Год назад

      @@Autumnityyy diamond beetroot

  • @pumblechook1505
    @pumblechook1505 2 месяца назад +1

    My friend and I went to 7 ancient cities trying to find a Silence armour trim, duplicated it 18 times (we were trying different colours) and still had enough diamonds left to make level 4 pure diamond beacon (yes over 2 and a half stacks of blocks).

  • @ClashwithKiran
    @ClashwithKiran 8 месяцев назад +2

    now in 1.20 diamonds are precious as you need to duplicate it with smelthing template for nethertite

  • @1DontNoclip
    @1DontNoclip Год назад +68

    I wish they brought iron down to Diamond level. I still feel more excited finding diamonds than netherite, I think its their bright blue colour that makes them look precious

    • @S0UPIE
      @S0UPIE Год назад +4

      You have obviously never entered late game if you still get exited over diamonds. Hell, big iron vains are more exiting than finding diamonds

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou Год назад

      @@S0UPIE Yup, I used so many anvils for various stuff that it has always being nice to have a couple of spare anvils whenever I needed them, also the farms need iron, loads of iron.

  • @pokemonpokemon9385
    @pokemonpokemon9385 Год назад +29

    Absolutely correct. It doesn’t feel the same when you get diamonds anymore. Usually you get diamonds for armor and tools but now it’s just for making netherite

    • @SM64_Mario
      @SM64_Mario Год назад +1

      True, finding diamonds doesn’t feel as satisfying as before, Once I was mining and I found diamonds and it felt as if I found coal, I made a diamond pickaxe to make a nether portal and I fell in the lava with the pickaxe and I didn’t care, I was more concerned about my map than for the pickaxe

    • @rickkim2931
      @rickkim2931 Год назад +1

      you can just buy armor from villagers and grindtone away the bad enchantments

  • @catagamas
    @catagamas 11 месяцев назад

    everytime I go mining I come home with at least 64 diamonds, the caves and cliffs update made them super common. they appear literally 10 blocks away from each other, that + fortune 3 and boom. infinite wealth.

  • @user-qe6dt4yi8p
    @user-qe6dt4yi8p 9 месяцев назад

    *wait until he sees the armor trim recipe* love the video, very interesting

  • @zyxyuv1650
    @zyxyuv1650 Год назад +114

    You have a good speaking voice. Many people with asian accents are afraid to speak on video. I'm glad you're not using text to speech or anything, hearing your voice makes the channel more authentic and real.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +36

      Thank you for this, it's like in human nature to just cringe if you hear your own voice and it's comments like this that help me deal with that going forward. In fact, yeah I specifically did not want to use text to speech because I felt that it would really remove a lot of the personality the videos would have, I feel like viewers could get a feel for the video better if they could understand your tone and volume of your voiceover.
      As for my asian accent, I try not to think about it too much. If people can understand me then I think my accent is just a neat little thing on the side, it helps that I also watch other asian creators such as Accented Cinema who aren't afraid to speak on their videos, and as such make me feel less like I'm out of place.

    • @mlmii1933
      @mlmii1933 Год назад +1

      ​@@XayXayYT ...
      I love your voice as well.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +2

      @@mlmii1933 You're too kind

    • @heraldofoblivion727
      @heraldofoblivion727 Год назад

      @@mlmii1933 gay

    • @diddles3383
      @diddles3383 Год назад +6

      Please never be afraid to speak with an accent, diverse accents are always lovely, plus it would be boring as hell if everything spoke in a ~proper~ English or American accent.

  • @Stridsvagn69420
    @Stridsvagn69420 Год назад +77

    Honestly, I'd love to see many iron blocks having a diamond version, which have the buff of either having a larger blast resistance and/or being faster/having more capacity, etc.

    • @Zilaxe
      @Zilaxe Год назад +1

      Like what, i am a bit confused how that would be very good

    • @deftloll
      @deftloll Год назад +2

      @@Zilaxe Diamond shields. Maybe having better knock back and also a longer lasting life. Diamond crossbows, shooting farther, and better accuracy. I've seen the ops idea be implemented in a lot of mods but these are just the two I could pull out of my ass.

  • @tvoidl9226
    @tvoidl9226 9 месяцев назад +2

    Now in the new 1.20 you need diamond to duplicate the netherite thing to update your equipaments and the costumization in armor

  • @OblivifrekTV
    @OblivifrekTV 11 месяцев назад +1

    The final release of 1.20 now sort of have more use for diamonds, I do hope we get new tools that take advantage of both diamond and netherite to make one step up on the existing netherite tools like netherdiamond which needs netherite and a diamond to be made. Just an idea but I think they need have more uses for diamond to justify finding diamonds in chests etc

  • @weaponizedtomato1920
    @weaponizedtomato1920 Год назад +74

    I love how this video came out just before armor trims were announced and gave a new use for diamonds. Maybe mojang saw this video and was like "NAW FAM!"

    • @callmelou5397
      @callmelou5397 3 месяца назад +3

      still isnt a significant change when it comes to gameplay its basically like when you buy a fortnite skin its nice to have but no big deal if you dont

    • @eXCee
      @eXCee 3 месяца назад +1

      @@callmelou5397 not true at all. The armor trims also made the netherite template. so now unless people wanna go through a dozen bastions, they need to use 5 more diamonds per netherite tool/armor.

    • @digimonlover1632
      @digimonlover1632 2 месяца назад

      Even then I still don’t see how diamonds are useless. It’s honestly an exaggerated problem that makes me feel more negative about netherite by tacking on more stuff you have to do than diamond.

  • @Bobyhobby0306
    @Bobyhobby0306 Год назад +19

    I still remember my first time mining diamonds over 3 years ago. It was such a fun moment. Now, whenever I mine diamonds, it's just another diamond vein to me. I hope that diamonds will become more useful in the coming years.

    • @sleepdeep305
      @sleepdeep305 Год назад +1

      Trust me, diamonds already felt like that 3 years ago. It’s just a simple fact of getting used to the game. New players that find diamonds still absolutely flip out over them.

    • @Bobyhobby0306
      @Bobyhobby0306 Год назад

      @@sleepdeep305 Idk, just started the game then, and was watching a lot of Preston.

  • @enderfire3379
    @enderfire3379 9 месяцев назад

    altough putting diamond equipment in villager trades really helped in superflat runs and presumbaly other challenge runs

  • @J_G116
    @J_G116 Год назад +42

    I love this video, I agree with a lot of things you said, for me I just use villagers for diamond armor and tools because just mining for diamonds is honestly painful because of how slow deepslate takes to mine when stripmining and when going in caves theres only 1 diamond vein. Mining for diamonds is just unreliable

    • @genghiskhan6809
      @genghiskhan6809 Год назад +1

      Same. Exploiting villagers is just way more fun for me because I can cosplay being evil. It becomes even more entertaining when you add mods like Vampirism, Evilcraft and Blood Magic into the mix so that the levels of diabolical evil skyrocket to cartoonish heights.

  • @ERIK-457
    @ERIK-457 2 месяца назад

    Man, when i saw the old gold ingot texture i remembered how when i was a kid i used to think it was a bar of butter until i read the name of the thing

  • @captainblocker4324
    @captainblocker4324 Месяц назад

    the caves and cliffs update made finding diamonds so laughably easy in deepslate caves that i was able to get a full stack within an hour, now that you dont have to strip mine for them, theyre pretty much everywhere

    • @slowfreq
      @slowfreq 4 дня назад

      I've always felt the opposite: despite caves being massive and open, they're also all pitch black and a complete nightmare to navigate unless you are already decked out in good tools and armor, on TOP of the fact that it feels like I do not find exposed diamonds at the same rate as the old caves with respect to how much exposed stone there is.

  • @laurwolfxd_3830
    @laurwolfxd_3830 Год назад +55

    I'd think because Netherite exists. Now when you find Diamonds you're obviously not as hyped because you KNOW that there's an even better material that you can get after Diamonds. Getting Diamonds is just another step you have to take now in order to get to the best.
    I personally still get quite hyped when I find Diamonds although when finding Netherite I'm even more hyped. Honestly it's also the fact that getting Netherite gear is harder compared to getting Diamond gear. The harder something is to get the better the feeling when you actually get it.

    • @spacehead10
      @spacehead10 Год назад +1

      yeah, it's kind of a weird situation because netherite doesn't actually give any extra protection (it only gives knockback resistance and some other obscure stats), but it's seen as higher tier than diamond because of how rare it is

    • @laurwolfxd_3830
      @laurwolfxd_3830 Год назад

      @@spacehead10 The tools and weapons deal slightly more damage too (+1) and the durability is way higher than that of Diamond meaning you don't have to repair your stuff as often so I don't think it's just because Netherite is harder to find. It's also because it's actually better than Diamond. Not the biggest difference but still a difference

    • @laurwolfxd_3830
      @laurwolfxd_3830 Год назад +5

      @@spacehead10 also the fact that Netherite gear doesn't burn in fire or lava. If you die in lava with Netherite gear you can still recover it meanwhile Diamond gear you can't because it's gone

    • @reddodeado301
      @reddodeado301 Год назад

      @@spacehead10
      Toughness is a somewhat valuable stat as it reduces armor penetration, meaning you get protected from higher damage attacks more effectively (such as the Warden).
      It's +3 per piece though instead of Diamond's +2, so there is *a* benefit, just probably not a significant one.

    • @charlescannon2469
      @charlescannon2469 Год назад +1

      Sadly even before netherite, with my playstyle of making a new world if die (and not dying) mending and fortunate books(fisherman instead of farmer) made diamonds a thhing I go one time to mine a few ores for the 30 or so I'll need, and just walk past diamonds after that.

  • @rons3634
    @rons3634 Год назад +23

    As a new player I was mildly interested in the subject of the video but the presentation was awesome enough for me to sub. The accent, the cadence, the scripting....all was great.

    • @XayXayYT
      @XayXayYT  Год назад +3

      Heh, I like how my accent was part of the appeal, glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @hildalaw7627
      @hildalaw7627 5 месяцев назад

      accent for me tu@@XayXayYT