Operation Mindcrime Week - Queensryche - Spreading the Disease / The Mission - REACTION

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024

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  • @barrymitchell6681
    @barrymitchell6681 3 года назад +27

    Hahaha love to watch w people listen to Mindcrime the first time as they contemplate the story. Exciting to see how their interpretation drifts away from the story then snaps back to the story and vice/versa. You are not missing anything you are exactly where you should be. Great job. Take care everyone. REVOLUTION

    • @jenx4115
      @jenx4115 2 года назад +2

      I'm loving this, I'm right back in my room with my sister at 14, and our jaws were on the floor! We wore that tape out! I think I still have it somewhere...I love that it still hits just as hard today, the best of EVERYTHING.
      🔥🤘😠🤘🔥💜

  • @madjock-ig5bv
    @madjock-ig5bv 3 года назад +37

    This is NOT a spoiler. The reason I say that is those of us that bought the album when it came out had all the info in front of us so we knew this bit of info and it didn't spoil our enjoyment).
    The nurse at the start is a completely different person to Mary. So don't confuse yourself unnecessarily. It wasn't a secret or anything we old buggers didn't know as we heard the album for the first time.
    Loving how you are trying to follow it though. A lot of fun. I actually feel like I am listening to it all for the first time through your excitement. (It was interesting the comment about the James Bond type vibe, I hadn't noticed that similarity before, think it is probably a co-incidence personally, however nice pick out mate!) It is bringing back memories of having the vinyl on the turntable for the first time! Ah memories 😀!

    • @Hayley.a
      @Hayley.a 2 года назад

      I had the tape lol

    • @jenx4115
      @jenx4115 2 года назад

      Haha I had the tape as well, and I wore it out! Me and my sister played it constantly! 🔥🤘😠🤘🔥

  • @Usurper123
    @Usurper123 3 года назад +29

    You missed his drug/heron habit from Operation Mindcrime,"Had a habit doing mainline".
    "She feeds my skin" is in reference to Sister Mary bring him his drugs.
    The woman from the beginning was just a nurse at the hospital.
    In the mission Niki is watching TV and shoots it while sarcastically saying forgive me father for I have sinned.
    Sister Mary brings him drugs and he's falling in love with her.

    • @ThomasJ_Music
      @ThomasJ_Music  3 года назад +8

      Ah yeah I had missed that! Not familiar with Mainline as a term for drugs which is probably why I missed it.
      I’m wondering now whether Dr X is Father William. I really shouldn’t be thinking these things at 1am 😂

    • @Usurper123
      @Usurper123 3 года назад +6

      @@ThomasJ_Music Being a child of the 80's makes it much easier to pick this stuff out.

    • @madjock-ig5bv
      @madjock-ig5bv 3 года назад

      @@Usurper123 even for those of us that were no longer children by the eighties😂.
      I remember (can I say "?"?😂) when I was a kid and my dad said he knew he was getting old as the police looked so young, for me it is seeing new bands such as Vintage Caravan or Alien Weaponry etc and realising that when I add the band's ages together you get mine! Although still bloody rocking!

    • @ivanboston8582
      @ivanboston8582 3 года назад +2

      @@ThomasJ_Music This is the introduction/backstory for Mary... Dr X and Father William are different people, but you probably already know that since you are several songs ahead by the time I have seen this. Now take into account that this album came out in 1988 and it is mind-blowing how much of it is still relevant today

  • @BrianSherman-TheTVGod
    @BrianSherman-TheTVGod 3 года назад +5

    So glad you enjoyed The Mission...one of my all-time favorites as well.

  • @rnobreaks4579
    @rnobreaks4579 3 года назад +11

    The best soundtrack to never have a movie! I am loving this ride as if it was my first time hearing it.

  • @chrisriley8749
    @chrisriley8749 3 года назад +16

    If you recall an earlier lyric, Dr x said they would send someone to give him what he needs. I believe sister Mary (another lost soul) brings him drugs and sex, and his next target. (This is only my interpretation thus far)

    • @gregorykenfield3134
      @gregorykenfield3134 3 года назад +2

      Correct...except the next target is received by phone.

    • @michaelcrowley2071
      @michaelcrowley2071 3 года назад +2

      That is correct

    • @wadefryer7899
      @wadefryer7899 3 года назад +1

      Not sex, not yet anyways

    • @chrisriley8749
      @chrisriley8749 3 года назад +3

      @@wadefryer7899 I guess I took "she feeds my skin" too literally! :-)

    • @wadefryer7899
      @wadefryer7899 3 года назад +4

      @@chrisriley8749 yeah he’s referring to drugs. I don’t want to say anymore cause the answer comes in a line in the next song. 😎

  • @VeteranCapybara
    @VeteranCapybara 3 года назад +7

    The true Magnum Opus of the album is yet to come my friend. The whole album is a Masterpiece but there is always a standout track. I am thoroughly enjoying your reaction!

  • @evilervcowart6234
    @evilervcowart6234 3 года назад +4

    Damn...it's almost like this album was a revelation about present day events...
    🤔

  • @Jelsick
    @Jelsick 3 года назад +14

    First, and yes this is a great album. Operation Livecrime is a must as well. They perform the album in its entirety.

    • @davegilbertson4907
      @davegilbertson4907 3 года назад +2

      Had the pleasure of seeing Queensryche three times in the late 80s. Then i saw Operation Livecrime in '91 at a general admission small venue

    • @bananapuddingpop3867
      @bananapuddingpop3867 3 года назад

      @@davegilbertson4907 Saw that tour as well. It was incredible.

    • @rhinno1969
      @rhinno1969 3 года назад

      I believe Operation Mindcrime/Livecrime gives you the audio/video the way Queensryche wanted us to have it to tell the story. Also, Mindcrime at The Moore is Operation Mindcrime I & II live. Watch it, I think you'll enjoy it 🤘

  • @bjornbear6856
    @bjornbear6856 3 года назад +7

    Fantastic reaction!
    For me as a Queensryche fan and a Operation Mindcrime nuthead it is so fantastic to see
    your journey through this album and it's story! The way you analize and discover the story and
    react to the music, that still to this day for me, is timeless. They were so far ahead with this album
    back in -88 and sadly to this day it is still so relevant with how our society still looks 30+ years later.
    You are so close on the plot and I can't wait for the next one!!!
    Suite sister Mary!!!!!

  • @Ifyernotawakeyet
    @Ifyernotawakeyet 3 года назад +2

    First listen of O.M. you NEVER get all the details of the story. Which is great, because you can listen again and again!

  • @absea7918
    @absea7918 3 года назад +2

    Great reaction. The Mission is my favorite as well. I agree it has a "Bond" sound a bit, but also a close cousin of My Empty Spaces from Pink Floyd's the Wall (which is definite influence on Mindcrime.

  • @chrisoverby819
    @chrisoverby819 3 года назад +2

    Let me start by saying thank you for doing this. Mindcrime has been a major part of my (musical) life for a very long time. I am sure you already know by now what I am about to tell you, but there is one major point you have missed up to this point. Nikki is a heroin addict. It was first mentioned in Operation:Mindcrime. It is also what is being referenced in The Mission when it says "she brings the only friend and helps me find my way". Again, I am sure you have figured this out, but it was killing me.

  • @emmaturtle
    @emmaturtle 3 года назад +8

    Now that you've had a chance to react to Spreading The Disease, there's a couple points I want to particularly call out. Disclaimer: This is my interpretation, and others may well disagree. I *think* I've avoided spoilers and spoken only to things already revealed in the songs you've listened to at this point.
    You've mentioned a couple of times that communism is one of the things motivating Nikki... that's not exactly correct. What he's fighting against is the use of anti-communist political rhetoric as a dogwhistle or a scapegoat for politicians to manipulate people with. And then, answering your questions from earlier about the role religion plays in this whole narrative, it's just the same - another means for those in power to pacify, control, and exploit the masses.
    A thing to keep in mind is that Sister Mary's "saving" leaves her just as much a victim as she was beforehand; somebody who's being exploited both directly by Father William and indirectly as as a handler for Nikki to provide him with companionship and drugs to maintain his own subservience to the revolutionary movement. That is how she "feeds my skin," as the lyric goes - she's his source of drugs. (Alas, no, she's not the nurse from the first track).
    The subject of The Mission is, in fact, still Nikki. He's starting to feel self-recrimination warring with his brainwashing and, being around Sister Mary and Father William, religion is an omnipresent context for him at this point. Thus, even as he performs an assassination, and still believes in the holiness of his cause, there's a part of him that resists the way he (and Mary) is being controlled in exactly the same ways that he's been conditioned to violently disrupt. The cognitive dissonance is starting to build in ways that he can't resolve.
    You begin to see that this is a very, very squalid and cynical world that our Nikki inhabits.

    • @rbrebrook
      @rbrebrook 3 года назад +3

      This is really REALLY good explanation w/o spoilers and summarizing The Mission as "cognitive dissonance" is genius, friend!

    • @sharkey9
      @sharkey9 3 года назад +1

      Excellent. Well done.

    • @Blaize24
      @Blaize24 2 года назад

      Really well done!

  • @ginamarandino6451
    @ginamarandino6451 3 года назад +2

    This has been so cool Tommy thanks for doing this I have been a Queensryche fan for a long time I've been to three concerts, but I've never listened to operation mindcrime all the way through very cool!

  • @patrick1234
    @patrick1234 3 года назад +3

    Still holding my tongue to see ur hits and misses in figuring it out as u progress thru it all ...🤫 😁
    Glad ur enjoying the album...knew ud love it...still an album I play to this day, ALWAYS as full album and not just a track here or there.
    Keep it up, enjoying very much 😃

  • @WristwatchAddiction
    @WristwatchAddiction 3 года назад +6

    I can hardly wait for the opus that is Suite Sister Mary and the rollercoaster that was side B on the album version. Just gets better and better from here on out! 👍

  • @lowdz68
    @lowdz68 3 года назад +10

    Can’t wait for tonight and Suite Sister Mary. Their masterpiece.

    • @pikey13
      @pikey13 3 года назад +2

      The whole thing is a masterpiece! But I know what you're saying.

    • @jenx4115
      @jenx4115 2 года назад

      You what? It's a great part of the live show and, yeah the whole thing is a masterpiece! 🔥🤘😠🤘🔥💜

  • @waynechesser2000
    @waynechesser2000 3 года назад +3

    Watched the first two videos yesterday and couldn't wait for the rest. Had to listen to the entire album at work today. Still just as great as ever. And really enjoying your analysis. I never picked up on the significance of the candles or noticed that part of The Mission sounds a bit Bond-ish. Nice!

  • @watchtheskies
    @watchtheskies 3 года назад +4

    The Mission is also my favourite song on the album

    • @stevestefano3298
      @stevestefano3298 3 месяца назад

      Same here! Just incredible. I can pick out different lines of this song and how incredible they are but I would be citing the entire song! Lol. "I wear a face born in the falling rain...". CHILLS.

  • @jimtatro6550
    @jimtatro6550 3 года назад +7

    First!!!! Spreading the Disease and The Needle Lies are my two favorite tracks from Mindcrime. She was a hooker runaway who becomes Sister Mary and the first verse talks about his drug habit.

  • @84Oilers
    @84Oilers 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Tommy!!! I'm really enjoying watching you experience this album for the first time and can't wait for the next few song to thread it all together. I became a Queensryche fan in 1984 when i snuck into a pub underage to see MTV's to headbangers Ball. Queensryche 1st video "Queen of the Reich" was playing and I've been hooked since then. I would recommend watching Operation: LIVECrime (1991) when you finish the studio album as the visual effects help clarify the story and the band is in their prime. Keep up the great work \m/

  • @insufferablethrashelitist9305
    @insufferablethrashelitist9305 3 года назад +1

    I'm so glad you're doing this.
    Really wish I'd waited to the end and binged these back to back. Anticipation!
    You should do more full album reviews. I can can give you a dozen megadeth records. Metallica is good too. So are guns n roses and led zeppelin. Just to name a few.

  • @michaelcrowley2071
    @michaelcrowley2071 3 года назад +1

    If you remember back in the song Operation:Mindcrime, there is the lyric ‘ had a habit doing mainline, watch the dragon burn’-- that is a direct indication that Nikki is a hero on user.. now fast forward to The Mission and Sister Mary is the one who brings Nikki his heroin.... you seem to have missed that... no spoiler just trying to bring you up to speed

  • @damiankarras
    @damiankarras 3 года назад +1

    Keep in mind when this was written, 87-88, and how current the subject matter is, with the 1% ruling America.

  • @edh9999
    @edh9999 3 года назад +1

    The first scene of the album with the nurse is the "present tense". The rest of the album is entirely a flashback as Nikki remembers everything that has led to that point. And as other people have mentioned, the nurse is not Mary. She's just a nameless NPC if you will to tell us right off the bat how mainstream society thinks of Nikki.

  • @JayTor2112
    @JayTor2112 3 года назад +1

    The whole story is from Nikki's perspective.

  • @tonyahatfield635
    @tonyahatfield635 3 года назад +3

    Easily the greatest album ever.

    • @PrinsPrygel
      @PrinsPrygel 2 месяца назад

      And still more relevant today than ever.

  • @screamingindigital1980
    @screamingindigital1980 3 года назад +1

    We had an insert I think it was called an epilogue that told us spoilers so we had spoilers back then as well . I read it and was fine with the spoilers it named all the players and gave a consensus of what was going to happen so all we had to do was put on our earphones and enjoy the ride .

  • @chrisriley8749
    @chrisriley8749 3 года назад +2

    I always hear something different when I listen to this!

  • @timcabradilla81
    @timcabradilla81 2 года назад +1

    one of the greatest lines in any song ever ' she's sister mary now, eyes as cold as ice. he takes her once a week on the altar like a sacrifice'. fucking a.

  • @leebunn3619
    @leebunn3619 3 года назад +2

    Day 3.... loving it Tommy. 2 great tunes... the story and songs are awesome tomorrow 😁👍

  • @TriangleDancing
    @TriangleDancing 3 года назад +2

    This is one of my favorite albums, but it's been many years since I've listened to it, and man had I forgotten how awesome it is. I'm very excited because my favorite song on the album is up next: "Suite Sister Mary". Not only my favorite on the album but an all time personal favorite. I'm really excited to see what you think of it later today. What a cool ride this is!

  • @davegilbertson4907
    @davegilbertson4907 3 года назад +2

    Simply magnificent to hear this again. Thoroughly enjoy watching you listen for the first time and reactions

  • @sean_b_drummer
    @sean_b_drummer 3 года назад +3

    Word of warning: there is a Radio Edit version of, Eyes of a Stranger at just over five minutes. Be sure to pick the one that's just short of seven minutes.
    Great fun watching you working out the details! 🤘🏽😎

    • @ThomasJ_Music
      @ThomasJ_Music  3 года назад +1

      Hey! Someone has provided a link to all three songs at the end in Tuesday’s vid comment section. I’ve pinned it so I’ll check out how long it is for Saturday

    • @sean_b_drummer
      @sean_b_drummer 3 года назад

      @@ThomasJ_Music
      While the drumming on this entire album is killer, Eyes of a Stranger is my absolute favorite to play.
      I checked the linked video; my concerns are addressed, so you're good to go. 🤘🏽👍🏽
      RAWK ON, Tommy!

  • @snixelpig
    @snixelpig 3 года назад +2

    I'll enjoy the next one as will everyone else.

  • @marbleflint
    @marbleflint 3 года назад +2

    Enjoying your dive into this album. I bought this when it was first released and still listen all the time.

  • @juhavaris2144
    @juhavaris2144 3 года назад +1

    The mission 💯💯💯💯💯💯❤❤❤❤❤

  • @APWPaint
    @APWPaint 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic week with this album!! My only complaint is I wish you would have numbered them. I've been hitting it every other day and it takes a minute to figure out if I'm on the right one. I will be sending this to people and they will have the same problem. Other than that you are killing it as usual. I love reliving this stuff all over again. Thanks Tommy.

    • @ThomasJ_Music
      @ThomasJ_Music  3 года назад

      This is a fair comment. I originally decided not to number them in the title as it can cause problems with people finding the video in the search.
      However, I have created a O:M playlist and all the videos are in order on there, if that helps? The description of the video also has the track numbers on there too. :)

  • @evilervcowart6234
    @evilervcowart6234 3 года назад +3

    Operation: Livecrime is a concert dvd of this album performed in its' entirety; I highly recommend you check it out when you have the time. It's an amazing showcase of the talent the band had and isn't to be missed, in my opinion. Keep rockin', man! Enjoying this ride!
    🤘

  • @stevestefano3298
    @stevestefano3298 3 месяца назад

    I'm obviously way late to the party here but I just saw your reaction today and I'm kind of following your journey through this incredible record. I'm sure you've figured it out by now but the entire record is from Nikki's point of view....including Spreading and the Mission. I can go on for days talking about this unbelievable album but I will bite my tongue. 😂 I will say that Nikki is very conflicted throughout this story and he's being pulled in different directions. He wants to be a good man but is struggling with his demons. But yes, definitely Geoff singing here and the entire album. His range is ridiculous which is one of the reasons I think he's the best metal singer EVER. Cheers.

  • @stamaalexgabriel2262
    @stamaalexgabriel2262 3 года назад

    Great album! After You hear the whole album,check aut Operation Livecrime!!!!!

  • @breinhol
    @breinhol 3 года назад

    OMFG the next song...the NEXT SONG....will say no more

  • @ericvallandingham5113
    @ericvallandingham5113 2 года назад

    This whole conceptual album is based around Nikki's thoughts.

  • @2catgumbo
    @2catgumbo 3 года назад +1

    1988, man... 1988.

  • @bengriffin1089
    @bengriffin1089 3 года назад +2

    Agreed - best track. The harmonies in the chorus are amazing.

  • @mmatthews90
    @mmatthews90 3 года назад +1

    It is awesome watching you go through and piece the story together. You're doing a spot on job so far! 👏

  • @jenx4115
    @jenx4115 2 года назад

    Best drum fills till Dave Grohl started Foo. This is my favorite track, Spreading the Disease. And best metal album of all time! 🔥🤘😠🤘🔥

  • @ericsierra-franco7802
    @ericsierra-franco7802 Год назад

    It's simply a brilliant rock and roll album! 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @stefanhenneken5415
    @stefanhenneken5415 3 года назад

    My big brother had this VHS back then. Was amaizing. Maybe I should check is it available on DVD or Bluray now days. 🤔

  • @gregorykenfield3134
    @gregorykenfield3134 3 года назад

    Okay...yes, this is Nikki in "The Mission." No, Sister Mary is NOT the nurse in the album intro who gave Nikki a shot.
    You are close to having the overall story figured out, but you have missed a critical element that has been eluded to in several of the earlier songs. Remember in "Operation: Mindcrime," when Nikki described himself as having a "habit of doing mainline"? You need to apply lyrics like "feed my skin" within that context. Also, this context is critical in understanding the relationship between Sister Mary and Nikki.
    One additional note about Sister Mary...she was described as being a prostitute before being rescued by Father William, but that verse finished by describing Sister Mary as being "taken" once a week by Father William...she is, in effect, HIS whore now.
    I will leave the rest for the next songs to reveal.
    God bless!

  • @Capitaomac1
    @Capitaomac1 3 года назад

    You're missing out some details about the characters. Some lines in the lyrics give them away if you know how to interpret.

  • @tristanrl1940
    @tristanrl1940 3 года назад +2

    I’ll say simply this: you are in for a sonic treat on the following track! So brace yourself, matey. The denouement is still in the distance but you’re getting there! In the meantime, questions will continue to play-up in your head but you appear to be coping OK lol sleep well when you get there. We all much look forward to your imminent reactions to follow

  • @leeharperphoto
    @leeharperphoto 3 года назад +1

    Class content mate! One of the most interesting and engaging reactionists about.
    It's literally like your sat in my lounge 😂

    • @ThomasJ_Music
      @ThomasJ_Music  3 года назад

      Thank you. That’s really nice to hear. Glad you’re enjoying the vids!

  • @kerrang2757
    @kerrang2757 2 года назад

    The mission, my top favorite song on the album

  • @otacon04psn
    @otacon04psn 3 года назад

    The Mission Is also my favourite song 👌💙

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 3 года назад

    The album gets better and better and will continue to do so.

  • @ricardodavidcortesgonzalez2049
    @ricardodavidcortesgonzalez2049 3 года назад

    ¡¡¡MY FAVORITE MINDCRIME SONG TOO!!!

  • @rbrebrook
    @rbrebrook 3 года назад +2

    I beg of you to please listen to official recording of Suite Sister Mary the first time you hear it and read the official lyrics somewhere else. The production of the song was incredible and the rooms the engineers created sonically enhance the bands performance and make the song even more epic. To listen to someone else's compressed and flat sounding (in comparision) lyric video is going to take away so much from your expereince.

  • @brandoncope1167
    @brandoncope1167 3 года назад +1

    Having heard this album a million and a half times (and still listening to this day), I love seeing/hearing it again for the first time through your eyes and ears. It is an amazing story and certainly worth the multi-day dive into it. The way you are doing it allows you to digest what has happened at the end of every couple of songs. You are doing an amazing job thinking this through! I can see your brain processing it in "real time" and it is amazing! I am really looking forward to the rest of your review....you haven't even gotten to the really good parts yet!!! I am enjoying this ride right along with you, my friend!

  • @bananapuddingpop3867
    @bananapuddingpop3867 3 года назад +2

    Don't sweat it Tommy, the story really starts making sense very soon. No spoilers, but the next song live is incredible how they did it on their Livecrime tour. I will talk more after you've heard it.

  • @robertsimmons3336
    @robertsimmons3336 3 года назад +1

    Enjoying the journey again as I watch your reaction! It will all come together this album and Dream Theater's both are like reading a book. The Author only tells you what they want you to know until they are ready to reveal the whole picture. Don't worry it will come together just keep at it and I hope no one give you spoilers so you can truly enjoy the discoveries ahead. There are some great songs to come as well. My band did a tribute show once where we played almost the whole album from about the third song in, due to time constraints, and there are several coming up that were my favorite to play. The drum work in this album is so great. This album took them much longer than a normal album to write and record and you can tell by craftsmanship in every song. They took their time and it shows.

  • @kevinchuvala4104
    @kevinchuvala4104 Год назад

    Mary from Amsterdam.

  • @c.willharden9589
    @c.willharden9589 3 года назад

    No, its NIKKI

  • @allisterfiend_2112
    @allisterfiend_2112 3 года назад

    One of my favorites also, but you have yet to hear the next song, 'Suite Sister Mary', a beautifully epic song!

  • @chriservin9970
    @chriservin9970 3 года назад

    You are doing great and I am glad you enjoy this as much as I have from the day the album was released. The nurse at the beginning is nothing more than a nurse in an institution who hates our protagonist for his crimes. Father William took Mary in (and she has to pay for that once a week with sexual favors), but Mary works for X. As stated in several places in the songs covered to this point, she takes drugs and assassination targets to Nicky and is also apparently in a romantic relationship with him. I like the interpretation of Nicky being in the church. I never thought of that. I always took the reference to waiting and former religious influences to mean he was lighting candles in his room to commemorate his victims and falling back in to some of his former religious practices in that space as he waited for the next target and his drugs to be delivered by Mary. This was reinforced for me when he says, "Bless me father, for I have sinned." while the televangelist is speaking in the background. It sounds like he then shoots his television. I could be completely wrong. This masterpiece gives you a lot of information to put together how you will. Once again, great job!

  • @darkiee69
    @darkiee69 3 года назад

    The woman on track one is just a nurse, she have nothing to do with the rest of the story.

    • @VeteranCapybara
      @VeteranCapybara 3 года назад

      No spoilers, come on man

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 3 года назад +1

      @@VeteranCapybara That's not a spoiler, just one less red herring to chase. Marys identity is already given but the good Tommy is hung up on the nurse.

    • @madjock-ig5bv
      @madjock-ig5bv 3 года назад

      @@VeteranCapybara it isn't really a spoiler. I knew they were different characters as I had the cover/inner sleeve in front of me when I first listened. Tommy here doesn't so he is only being told something which will not affect the listening of the album going forward.

    • @VeteranCapybara
      @VeteranCapybara 3 года назад +1

      @@darkiee69 he would have figured it out as the story progressed though.

  • @Mr19ford93
    @Mr19ford93 3 года назад +1

    Nikki and Nikkie are both a women's spelling of that name i believe

    • @rbrebrook
      @rbrebrook 3 года назад +1

      It is Nikki according to the offical liner notes/libretto for the album, though.