****DISCLAIMER**** : I am sleep deprived, so much so that holding a microphone seemed enough, pushing "record" was optional... So my audio is terrible, I'm SO SORRY!! If you have a portion you didn't get what I said, let me know, I'll check it for you. Again, truly sorry.
You also just made me a subscriber for that comment major respect to you for being honest and being so serious about your channel but serious get your ass some sleep lol
@@Jpizzo1995 Ahahah! Thanks and yeah, I got an 11h30m slumber after this was shot so I'm much better now. I most certainly appreciate the kindness you've shown me.
Great video, loots of interesting info about companies that I didn't know they exists, so besides what you think was bad, I didn't get that impression 🤘
Serafim has been lying to it's backers for MONTHS now as they were supposed to release this controller in June and now they to this point still have backers money but are shipping out to people who buy on their website. It's shady and ridiculous. Please do not support them.
At last the video is what I waited for. Best video from CES! Thank you. I was a little bit disappointed by Flydigi, because I wanted to see something new from them and Gamesir G7PRo is has wired only mode for Xbox.
I truly hope to communicate to them the importance to have things for fans to be excited about for next year's CES. I would've loved to sit down for an hour, test it out, make a nice video about an upcoming controller. But it's a learning process for us all, next year, I'll probably tally along a GPD Win Mini or something that I can quickly test with. Cheers!
I just got those Alion j20s Joycons and they are incredible. And they work as a perfect split handed PC controller even via Bluetooth which I have tried to find something that actually worked on PC without horrible lag and great ergonomics.
hey Klef ty for sharing my record of g7 pro live.. im really glad to even see my channel name on yours hehe, wish i could have more but i didnt had atm nvidia app installed and i had to run download installing etc.. was hoping u came with new info about gamesir but i see they dont allow u do that :c well, we just have to wait, g7 pro for my is a big YES TAKE MY MONEY! XD
Waaahhhhh?!? I didn't even know that was you because when I read my comments, I see your @ but when I tagged you, I see your channel's name ahahah! Oh that's awesome, I'm happy to know that another controller enthusiast got to visit CES and see the booths for yourself. Great work with the stream, I'm happy that this much info is out, I know A LOT of people was holding off for the G7 Pro and when gamers win, I win too! That's awesome my guy!
I literally woke up an hour ago from an 11h30m slumber, I didn't even know that was possible 🤣 Thanks Rem, seeing the comments pouring in is telling me it was all worth it!
Oh man too bad brazil is too far for me to attend the event seems awesome So many booths from all companies out there, I would go crazy testing them all Maybe next year I will be able to go too
"Gaming phones" should have MCON-like controllers packed with it. Nobody that actually game in phones actually use touchscreen, they always buy external controllers, so that would be perfect. Just make it slimmer and attach it to the phone without bluetooth somehow, like the Legion Go and Switch
Honestly, after using the Vader 4 Pro, I appreciate asymmetrical gamepads more now, because I can use my right thumb to use the dpad. Helpful when I need to choose an item or smth while moving, don't have to let go of the left stick that way
Great video! Thank u for all the information ❤️ Is there any upcoming TMR Controller that support 2000hz or higher polling rate with actually 4 back paddles/buttons and not those stupid shoulder buttons?
17:56 my GCHT PS4 controller is currently my favorite. I have 40+ controllers including the Cyclone 2, the Vader 3, KK3 Max, and loads of others. I use the corner of the touchpad to activate gyro and it's perfect for that. The right stick is also in just the perfect position for flickstick whenever I need it. 16:06 the GameSir G7 Steam edition is the controller I am most looking forward to. I've been waiting for any announcement since the leaks since November. The Hori Steam controller was disappointing if you have used controllers like the Cyclone 2 and Vader 3. 8:29 that's basically a Steam controller from 10 years ago... and l want one now! (it also reminds me of the Darkwalker Shotpad / IFYOO GTP01). I exclusively play with touchpad activated gyro aiming so that looks perfect. It also reminds me of the Input Labs Alpakka in a lot of ways.
Thanks for this! The fascinating thing for me with this is that since I now primarily play games on the Steam Deck, i've come to realize the biggest thing for me is just whether or not it works with steam input. Like, I have a Blitz 2 TMR and it's fantastic with my PC, but just doesn't work right with the steam deck. I'm really hoping that the gamesir controler has buttons that are remappable within steam input. Legit, outside of the Hori Steampad, there's not much choice outside of official controllers from Sony/Microsoft
100% no, while there are new options coming out, they will not overtake the current bests either. It's more designed for a "cost-efficient" market. If you want premium and the most features, G8 Plus will remain king for as long as I can think of, I have not seen anything to "endanger" the status it currently has, put it this way.
That keyboard controller is interesting. I'm actually looking forward to it since mostly use controllers with my pc. What is it called, is it available already?
Next year, I'm bringing an "infinity backpack" and dropping a lot of stuff in there only to be emptied once I'm back home, that controller 100% would've made the cut! 🤣
@@GameTechTalk Yup that was the discount I saw for the Cyclone 2! I was wondering if it was worth getting the Cyclone 2 on sale now? Or waiting to see if the G7 Pro is better option, based on what you saw?
@@soju_politics The Cyclone 2 Pro is very much a G7 Pro that doesn't work on Xbox. So unless Xbox support is important, I'd say buy with confidence, you're not missing out except maybe for a potentially better D-pad but I didn't get to test that firsthand!
The G7 Pro is the controller I’ve been waiting for. I was skeptical about GameSir since I* thought of it sort of as a “budget brand” but I bought a Cyclone 2 for my Switch and was absolutely blown away, it feels so crispy, build quality feels decent. The analog sticks and trigger stops are some of the best I’ve ever felt. Even the face buttons feel satisfying and provide a better feel than the Razer Wolverine v3 TE. Genuinely impressed for a 50 dollar controller.
@ Since mid- November, I believe. I play analog on Marvel vs. Capcom 3. It still feels new after 200 hours of extremely heavy abuse from playing C Viper, doing super jump cancels (abuses a controller) and plink dashing using the logged trigger (abuses the controller) . Long term durability tbd, but most controllers show signs of wear by now with the way I abuse them.
Let's not wait on that one, the rights to the heroes/villains of that series are not easily obtained. If it was just for GameSir, I think the controller would exist but considering their are legal hurdles, best to assume we will not see such a controller, unfortunately. But dang would it be amazing!!!
Gamesir had a wolverine and deadpool faceplate for the g7 series as well as marvel themed backbones for mobile. They made a new tarantula that works on xbox but is only wired for now. But i am excited for the g7 pro especially since it now has 4 extra buttons and more responsive buttons.
Bro, could you say something about controllers, that connecting to xbox through USB adapters? I would buy elite 2, but these physical sticks... If they were Hall Effect or TMR, but it's not 😢
Get the G7 Pro in the spring. It’s going to be the best Xbox and PC controller on the market hands down when it comes out. I watched the reveal live and it’s amazing.
If you're thinking of grabbing only one and not want a second or third option from them? Yes, you will be confused ahahahah!! They're setting themselves up for another amazing year for 2025 and I see absolutely zero reason for them to slow down or experience less sales.
How about new Gamesir Telescopic in that live which look like backbone (which the back small and slim) + G8 look like and color green. That Tik Tok live on Gamesir have that
I've been wanting for all gamers to get the proper love and treatment everyone deserves and I know a lot of people swear by symmetrical so just like you, I hope we get to see more of it down the road. Cheers!
Gamesir is the best I know flydigi and all that is great. But gamesir just works so with me . On Xbox I use the Razer wolverine but I hate the battery on it!
As of late, I associate GameSir more with Xbox than many popular companies such as Razer. Crazy to say... That said, the year is just getting started and we'll see what 2025 brings for Xbox gamers! ;)
I'm really curious to get to test it first-hand because to me, it can be either a genius product, or an absolutely fire dumpster one. I love that they are taking such a gamble, I'm so excited to try it!
I know you can't talk about it, but can't help to notice that you hadn't even mentioned anything about a Flydigi Telescopic controller. If that's the news which can't be mentioned, I can't wait. Well actually I've waited long enough they need to make one which support the sizes of modern phones.
So... We talked about that, it's not that and also not information for me to share. Let me nip that in the bud as they say. Flydigi is working on bigger, better things though, and there's definitely big news for 2025! ;)
Gamesirs policy on not showing footage or letting others of CES is one of the most backwards things ever. Your literally there to advertise your product. Let others do so for you.
It's possible that they have internal policies and I appreciate you speaking your mind on it because I think they need to hear it and see it from other people to understand how valuable letting "media" capture footage on these events is. That said, I also understand that making said decisions can sometimes require revisiting internal policies and protocols so hopefully that's a new approach they'll adopt in the future.
To game on Xbox or on PC? Because if we're talking PC, I'd say the challenge won't be having options but rather knowing which to pick because there are so many!
Only GameSir pads on my radar were the G7 Pro and Supernova…but I would have expected exactly what you said - new versions of every model. That’s kinda their MO, lol.
I was shown 4 products, spoke about one more that wasn't on the floor that I did not address in this video because these are "hush hush". GameSir are on steroids, they can't be stopped. If I was a manufacturer in the space, I don't even know if I'd want to compete so in many ways, best to just do what they do and let GameSir do the same.
@ I went back and watched the CEO livestream. I’m not at all surprised about the Tarantula Pro he showed off having mechanical face buttons…but pretty shocked it’s licensed for Xbox, and he specifically said it will be 1000hz polling on Xbox, out of the box. If that’s the case, I think it’ll give the Hyperkin symmetrical controller a run for its money for sure.
@@OldManRob13 Yup, many of the "behind closed doors" conversations I had made me understand that Xbox is moving differently too. Seems like they are abolishing internal protocols in favor of gamers have the ability to game the way they want to game, which is huge. They don't get talked about but I know firsthand that a lot will happen in 2025. ;)
@@GameTechTalk makes a lot of sense, based on what I’ve heard about the new direction of Xbox moving forward. Seems like they’re planning to focus more on Xbox as a platform/software across multiple devices, first and third party, and less on the physical Xbox itself.
Acer also has a new telescopic controller coming, nitro something similar branding to their upcoming pc handheld line, reminds me of the asus rog tessen telescopic controller u reviewed before, at least it in the way it folds, but has USB C connection rather than bluetooth and allows fast charging
So I've heard! From the article I've seen, it's announced for the Australian market so I don't know how/who to even reach out to to hopefully get a review unit. If it's sold in Canada, I'll buy it for sure!
A new Tarantula controller? Hell yes, let me guess, more buttons, there is room for 4 back buttons and 2 extra shoulders wolverine style. Still loving my T3, I only wish it had longer handles, my hands would thank them.
The focus was primarily new redesigns but if there is one thing I learned with GameSir, it is to not underestimate them, with the amount of unexpected releases they had in 2024, 2025 is looking to be as crazy if not crazier!
Only one that I’ve seen, mind you I didn’t see everything. But the one I’ve seen, which was from Aolion was definitely a “cost-efficient” one that I wouldn’t trust as my primary controller
@@puneet7768 They are yeah, I think it's already available on AliExpress but he did tell me that sometimes firmware updates can break workability and that usually a new firmware update is required on the controller to fix that.
Yup, I didn't talk about that but I know exactly what you're talking about, don't know if viewers will scour the comments but you just unlocked a "hush hush" product and let me tell you, I had a straight-up jawdrop when the CEO showed me it, I WANT IT SO BAD!!!! 🤣
@GameTechTalk lol it's crazy! I just found out 8bitdo released a clip for their tiny controllers (micro and zero 2) that can emulate the same feel of this upcoming Gamesir controller
There is one I didn't talk about hehehe because that one was full-on "secret mode", and I'm not referring to a recolor of the Tarantula. 😉 2025 will be exciting.
PXN is a new-to-me brand. I'm interested in seeing your review of their wheel; partially to find out how good their products are and mostly to see how good of a driver you are. I imagine that you'll turn a few laps at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in whatever F1 game is your favorite. It's a fun track, if tricky. That could be why it's fun...
@drchtct That's interesting, mind if I ask you to elaborate a bit? I know so little of that subset of gamers so any insight would be extremely appreciated!
I'm interested to try it as well, I haven't used a wheel in so long, plus I am happy they agreed cause I think my son will love playing with that but I must admit, I don't have a whole lot of points of comparisons! @mattdavis9601
@@GameTechTalk Overall just low quality, lots of failed products, and so on. It's important to note that the sim racing industry is in a different price category with most of its gear compared to controllers, so the expectations regarding quality and reliability are a lot higher. For example, their PXN V12 bundle is €560, so you risk & invest a lot more than with a €30 controller. It's very possible their controllers are fine.
the PXN 8k is already available online on ali , the apex 5 i heard it's also coming this year , and there should be an x30 from easysmx also . the Machenie / Thunderobot what are they ?! are they one company or two ?! because they do market seperately and have a lot in common at the same time. and big big won also a comapny with lots of potential , i hoped to see more than that downgraded controller , but i guess they are not as popular as they deserve so they are not taking risks. and thx for the overview about the coming stuff this year and the trip seemed like an eye opening experience to see the people who make those amazing products in person and i am sure you were appreciating them like celeperties even though it was your first time to see them lol
So Machenike, Thunderobot are both sister companies to a much larger one and with all of them together, they are basically a "gaming tech" empire is what I have come to understand. That's definitely a company I'd love to learn a whole lot more about in 2025! I guess the issue is we don't always know if the sales are as strong as the products are, we'd assume they are but it's all a big mystery. If I had to guess, BIGBIG WON is considerably better at making products than they are at marketing them. I hate to say, and I hope they won't take offense to my comment if they see this but I think it's factual. Their products are really awesome but I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of: "Uhh who are these guys?" when I talk about them. They also don't pop up in comments of unrelated videos like GameSir and Flydigi do for example.
@GameTechTalk i am kinda collecting different controllers , but I still didn't own a mechenike or Thunderobot controller, i like their modular sticks and i did consider the Thunderobot g80 . As for big big won i do feel exactly the same now that i tried the blitz 2 tmr , i think they differently should bring something on the level of the blitz 2, maybe something with 6 extra buttons and analog triggers and trigger stops, and another minimalistic version, i am suggesting this because i know that they have the best software for multiple buttons in the market. But my expectations is that the best controller in 2025 could be the apex 5 from Flydigi.
I hope you are going to start reviewing racing wheels especially budget to midrange wheels. I really want to buy one but most reviews on RUclips always vouch only for very expensive and extreme sim rig.
I understand, I think it's due to requiring more deeply rooted code to address the controllers, I don't see how/why they'd risk their brand by installing malicious software but I respect and get your decision.
@@uncalledfour he don't think he was talking about that controller when he showed the B Roll... He was just going over all the controllers... I believe the pink one is the Genshin controller
@UONeal is correct, I just didn't align the B-roll, in production, these happen after the fact. Sometimes I'll align things accordingly but seeing as this would've created "disjointed" footage of me panning the camera, I decided not to. Sorry for the confusion, the purple is Evangelion, which was the first re-release too, the pink is Genshin Impact and the light blue is Honkai Star Rail. There are a few more to spot in the footage as well! :)
Sorry, the b-roll didn't match the controller you saw at that very moment but indeed, purple is Evangelion, pink is Genshin Impact, light blue is Honkai Star Rail.
@NateBuildingBricks Like, I get if the intention is to keep them attached at all times that it may be hard to "pocket" the combo. But frankly, I don't think I'd want such a controller, there is a need for a bit of depth for buttons, d-pads and sticks to be the best they can be. But here's the thing though, if you don't mind disconnecting the magnets and putting each your phone and the controller in each a pocket, there is NO WAY that the MCON does not fit. Simply impossible. And if you rock a jacket, both attached will fit in most jacket pockets.
@@GameTechTalk Oh I don't mean having the phone attached while it's in the pocket. I mean just the controller by itself is thicker than actual handhelds. The current model looks too thick. A handheld like the 3DS, Vita, Anbernic 35xxh, Trimui Smart Pro, and many others look more pocketable than just the mcon controller without a phone attached.
Pleease chinese companies, sell this controller format for cheaper in Aliexpress for those who live in poor countries (Sorry to the actual guy who made it and the company lol)
@@Psychotoxic86 The Steam version has gyro and capacitive touch sticks as well as extra inputs (back paddles) that can be individually mapped through Steam. This is not possible with any Xinput controller. Only the Elite 2 has back paddles that can be individually mapped in Steam Input.
My guy, I want it SOOOOOO MUCH!! But it's real, at least we know that so I'm ok being patient but that could be a MASSIVE GAMECHANGER, the Steam controller from Hori is nice, but we need a premium version of that and that G7 Pro might just be exactly what we need and want. 2025 will be CRAZY!
@Moskeeto Yo wait a minute, you're the Moskeeto that I referred to a while back in a video, you made truckloads of tutorials for the Steam Deck and had that video about Okami using the trackpads! Nice to see you around :)
@@GameTechTalk they are definitely a decent company and have some sick looking controllers packed with features etc man no question will have to grab one soon if they do transparent black and red I'm all over it hope your well and had good Christmas brother 🏆👊
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9:03 Is that a Nintendo switch 2 silicone case?😅
LOL!!! I didn't even spot that at all when I went to the booth, that is HILARIOUS!!!
****DISCLAIMER**** : I am sleep deprived, so much so that holding a microphone seemed enough, pushing "record" was optional... So my audio is terrible, I'm SO SORRY!! If you have a portion you didn't get what I said, let me know, I'll check it for you. Again, truly sorry.
Bro get more sleep no damn video is more important than your health
You also just made me a subscriber for that comment major respect to you for being honest and being so serious about your channel but serious get your ass some sleep lol
@@Jpizzo1995 Ahahah! Thanks and yeah, I got an 11h30m slumber after this was shot so I'm much better now. I most certainly appreciate the kindness you've shown me.
Great video, loots of interesting info about companies that I didn't know they exists, so besides what you think was bad, I didn't get that impression 🤘
Serafim has been lying to it's backers for MONTHS now as they were supposed to release this controller in June and now they to this point still have backers money but are shipping out to people who buy on their website. It's shady and ridiculous. Please do not support them.
That Flydigi Evangelion Controller is damn beautiful. Wish it was available for reasonable prices in the EU
Right? Next year I'm bringing a Sly the Cooper cosplay suit and I'll go ham on these booths!! 😂😂😂
At last the video is what I waited for. Best video from CES! Thank you.
I was a little bit disappointed by Flydigi, because I wanted to see something new from them and Gamesir G7PRo is has wired only mode for Xbox.
I truly hope to communicate to them the importance to have things for fans to be excited about for next year's CES. I would've loved to sit down for an hour, test it out, make a nice video about an upcoming controller. But it's a learning process for us all, next year, I'll probably tally along a GPD Win Mini or something that I can quickly test with. Cheers!
That symmetrical flydigi can't come soon enough
I also want to see them enter that market, they have such a great approach to "peak performance" controllers.
I just got those Alion j20s Joycons and they are incredible. And they work as a perfect split handed PC controller even via Bluetooth which I have tried to find something that actually worked on PC without horrible lag and great ergonomics.
Ahh dang, I'm excited to give 'em a try. I was so invested in our conversations, I don't even remember if I picked them up!
Thanks a lot for these reviews ❤
hey Klef ty for sharing my record of g7 pro live.. im really glad to even see my channel name on yours hehe, wish i could have more but i didnt had atm nvidia app installed and i had to run download installing etc..
was hoping u came with new info about gamesir but i see they dont allow u do that :c
well, we just have to wait, g7 pro for my is a big YES TAKE MY MONEY! XD
Waaahhhhh?!? I didn't even know that was you because when I read my comments, I see your @ but when I tagged you, I see your channel's name ahahah! Oh that's awesome, I'm happy to know that another controller enthusiast got to visit CES and see the booths for yourself. Great work with the stream, I'm happy that this much info is out, I know A LOT of people was holding off for the G7 Pro and when gamers win, I win too!
That's awesome my guy!
@@GameTechTalk oh then we surprise each other hahah, im correcting first coment, is my recording of g7 pro live hehe, greetings
The MCON pretty sure is a neat lil' highlight here.
Thx for all the work you do, Clef! Keep it up, but don't overwork yourself. ;-)
I literally woke up an hour ago from an 11h30m slumber, I didn't even know that was possible 🤣 Thanks Rem, seeing the comments pouring in is telling me it was all worth it!
Oh man too bad brazil is too far for me to attend the event seems awesome
So many booths from all companies out there, I would go crazy testing them all
Maybe next year I will be able to go too
Yes please review controllers from Dobe fomis, Aolion and custom Xbox/PlayStation controllers from the likes of battle beaver, hypr, aim, hex, ect
Ces in Brazil?
Please review PlayStation/Xbox custom controllers like Hex, hypr, cinch, carbxn, mega modz, ect
@@shfd3832 VKsChannel in Brazil.
I think you will come with screwdriver and will dissemble all controllers on the booths ))))
"Gaming phones" should have MCON-like controllers packed with it. Nobody that actually game in phones actually use touchscreen, they always buy external controllers, so that would be perfect. Just make it slimmer and attach it to the phone without bluetooth somehow, like the Legion Go and Switch
Honestly, after using the Vader 4 Pro, I appreciate asymmetrical gamepads more now, because I can use my right thumb to use the dpad. Helpful when I need to choose an item or smth while moving, don't have to let go of the left stick that way
The CES video i was actually waiting on! Showing the important tech!
Happy to oblige and already preparing to do it even better comes next year! 🫡
Great video! Thank u for all the information ❤️
Is there any upcoming TMR Controller that support 2000hz or higher polling rate with actually 4 back paddles/buttons and not those stupid shoulder buttons?
17:56 my GCHT PS4 controller is currently my favorite. I have 40+ controllers including the Cyclone 2, the Vader 3, KK3 Max, and loads of others. I use the corner of the touchpad to activate gyro and it's perfect for that. The right stick is also in just the perfect position for flickstick whenever I need it.
16:06 the GameSir G7 Steam edition is the controller I am most looking forward to. I've been waiting for any announcement since the leaks since November. The Hori Steam controller was disappointing if you have used controllers like the Cyclone 2 and Vader 3.
8:29 that's basically a Steam controller from 10 years ago... and l want one now! (it also reminds me of the Darkwalker Shotpad / IFYOO GTP01). I exclusively play with touchpad activated gyro aiming so that looks perfect. It also reminds me of the Input Labs Alpakka in a lot of ways.
Thanks for this! The fascinating thing for me with this is that since I now primarily play games on the Steam Deck, i've come to realize the biggest thing for me is just whether or not it works with steam input. Like, I have a Blitz 2 TMR and it's fantastic with my PC, but just doesn't work right with the steam deck.
I'm really hoping that the gamesir controler has buttons that are remappable within steam input. Legit, outside of the Hori Steampad, there's not much choice outside of official controllers from Sony/Microsoft
I always wanted to go to CES
Nice video!
I literally just ordered a Gamesir G8 plus today, January 10th 2025. Should I return that and wait for whatever is coming out that is comparable???
100% no, while there are new options coming out, they will not overtake the current bests either. It's more designed for a "cost-efficient" market. If you want premium and the most features, G8 Plus will remain king for as long as I can think of, I have not seen anything to "endanger" the status it currently has, put it this way.
@@GameTechTalk thanks so much for the advice, I just got the G8 plus today, can't wait to use it, and I'm happy it won't be obsolete any time soon!
if flydigi created a controller thats 2000hz polling rate cheaper than the black myth wukong edition this 2025, ill definitely gonna buy it.
Another thing I didn't mention in the video, I was told of a 4000Hz and 8000Hz controller and no, it is not the PXN P5! All I can say for now though 😏
@GameTechTalk so flydigi created a 4000hz and 8000hz controller? 😳
@@dontblinkoryouwillmissme Lol, can't say, lots of companies mentioned in that video 🤐
That keyboard controller is interesting. I'm actually looking forward to it since mostly use controllers with my pc. What is it called, is it available already?
That apex 4 evangelion edition is soooo freakin beautiful.
@@_rage_quitter_11 it's beautiful in person. I managed to pick one up earlier last year and I almost feel bad using ut
Next year, I'm bringing an "infinity backpack" and dropping a lot of stuff in there only to be emptied once I'm back home, that controller 100% would've made the cut! 🤣
Thanks to you finally grabbed g8+ thanos collab, very happy with the purchase, thanks! Also really excited about that white Xbox tarantula
Glad I could help and yeah, lots to be excited about for 2025! What a way to start the year!
Any thoughts on getting a Cyclone 2 Pro on a slight discount now or waiting for G7 Pro reviews/release (as a PC player)? Thanks!
They just announced a discount, you can use this link geni.us/pQSFN (affiliate) to get the controller and dock for just shy over 50USD!
@@GameTechTalk Yup that was the discount I saw for the Cyclone 2!
I was wondering if it was worth getting the Cyclone 2 on sale now? Or waiting to see if the G7 Pro is better option, based on what you saw?
@@soju_politics The Cyclone 2 Pro is very much a G7 Pro that doesn't work on Xbox. So unless Xbox support is important, I'd say buy with confidence, you're not missing out except maybe for a potentially better D-pad but I didn't get to test that firsthand!
The G7 Pro is the controller I’ve been waiting for. I was skeptical about GameSir since I* thought of it sort of as a “budget brand” but I bought a Cyclone 2 for my Switch and was absolutely blown away, it feels so crispy, build quality feels decent. The analog sticks and trigger stops are some of the best I’ve ever felt. Even the face buttons feel satisfying and provide a better feel than the Razer Wolverine v3 TE. Genuinely impressed for a 50 dollar controller.
How long have you had it?
@ Since mid- November, I believe. I play analog on Marvel vs. Capcom 3. It still feels new after 200 hours of extremely heavy abuse from playing C Viper, doing super jump cancels (abuses a controller) and plink dashing using the logged trigger (abuses the controller) . Long term durability tbd, but most controllers show signs of wear by now with the way I abuse them.
Tarantula venom controller, that's a day 1 buy for me. Will go perfectly with my venom controller holder
Let's not wait on that one, the rights to the heroes/villains of that series are not easily obtained. If it was just for GameSir, I think the controller would exist but considering their are legal hurdles, best to assume we will not see such a controller, unfortunately. But dang would it be amazing!!!
Gamesir had a wolverine and deadpool faceplate for the g7 series as well as marvel themed backbones for mobile. They made a new tarantula that works on xbox but is only wired for now. But i am excited for the g7 pro especially since it now has 4 extra buttons and more responsive buttons.
Bro, could you say something about controllers, that connecting to xbox through USB adapters? I would buy elite 2, but these physical sticks... If they were Hall Effect or TMR, but it's not 😢
Based on how you say about Gamesir, looks like they will make me confuse on which product I will buy next from them 😅
Great video 😁
Get the G7 Pro in the spring. It’s going to be the best Xbox and PC controller on the market hands down when it comes out. I watched the reveal live and it’s amazing.
@@YaBoiAiridk, doesnt have 4 back buttons. The biggest tragedy...ever
@@ilbro7874 i do much prefer the 2 back button + 2 shoulder button layout. Personal preference i guess. Cant wait for the G7 Pro
Well, i havent tried it honestly. I only learned about back buttons 6 months ago😅@@raffyluvmiharu
If you're thinking of grabbing only one and not want a second or third option from them? Yes, you will be confused ahahahah!! They're setting themselves up for another amazing year for 2025 and I see absolutely zero reason for them to slow down or experience less sales.
Why does nobody makes a symmetrical sticks layout controller?
How about new Gamesir Telescopic in that live which look like backbone (which the back small and slim) + G8 look like and color green. That Tik Tok live on Gamesir have that
Whats the name of that PC controller with the touchpad? I cant get any other photo or video to come up when I search the brand
The brand is DOBE Fomis Electronics. I'm not sure exactly what the name of the controller itself is, sorry
I hope more companies join the party and make symmetrical controllers after seeing the success of the tarantula pro
I've been wanting for all gamers to get the proper love and treatment everyone deserves and I know a lot of people swear by symmetrical so just like you, I hope we get to see more of it down the road. Cheers!
Gamesir is the best I know flydigi and all that is great. But gamesir just works so with me . On Xbox I use the Razer wolverine but I hate the battery on it!
As of late, I associate GameSir more with Xbox than many popular companies such as Razer. Crazy to say... That said, the year is just getting started and we'll see what 2025 brings for Xbox gamers! ;)
The Dobe controller is the most interesting to me
I'm really curious to get to test it first-hand because to me, it can be either a genius product, or an absolutely fire dumpster one. I love that they are taking such a gamble, I'm so excited to try it!
I know you can't talk about it, but can't help to notice that you hadn't even mentioned anything about a Flydigi Telescopic controller. If that's the news which can't be mentioned, I can't wait. Well actually I've waited long enough they need to make one which support the sizes of modern phones.
Apex 2 (bxy wheel , additional m5/m6 bumpers , c&z buttons) with vader 4 features (sticks dampending rings , analog/digital triggers hybrid , good gyro , 1000hz) + being hybrid joycon style + telescopic? Maybe on different timeline
So... We talked about that, it's not that and also not information for me to share. Let me nip that in the bud as they say. Flydigi is working on bigger, better things though, and there's definitely big news for 2025! ;)
I'd love to go to that timeline ahaahahaah!! Sounds like the endgame controller, I don't think I could've kept such a grand product a secret!
Gamesirs policy on not showing footage or letting others of CES is one of the most backwards things ever. Your literally there to advertise your product. Let others do so for you.
It's possible that they have internal policies and I appreciate you speaking your mind on it because I think they need to hear it and see it from other people to understand how valuable letting "media" capture footage on these events is. That said, I also understand that making said decisions can sometimes require revisiting internal policies and protocols so hopefully that's a new approach they'll adopt in the future.
Any manufacturer making a controller with 4 paddles that can rival the elite series 2?
To game on Xbox or on PC? Because if we're talking PC, I'd say the challenge won't be having options but rather knowing which to pick because there are so many!
Only GameSir pads on my radar were the G7 Pro and Supernova…but I would have expected exactly what you said - new versions of every model. That’s kinda their MO, lol.
I was shown 4 products, spoke about one more that wasn't on the floor that I did not address in this video because these are "hush hush". GameSir are on steroids, they can't be stopped. If I was a manufacturer in the space, I don't even know if I'd want to compete so in many ways, best to just do what they do and let GameSir do the same.
@ I went back and watched the CEO livestream. I’m not at all surprised about the Tarantula Pro he showed off having mechanical face buttons…but pretty shocked it’s licensed for Xbox, and he specifically said it will be 1000hz polling on Xbox, out of the box. If that’s the case, I think it’ll give the Hyperkin symmetrical controller a run for its money for sure.
@@OldManRob13 Yup, many of the "behind closed doors" conversations I had made me understand that Xbox is moving differently too. Seems like they are abolishing internal protocols in favor of gamers have the ability to game the way they want to game, which is huge. They don't get talked about but I know firsthand that a lot will happen in 2025. ;)
@@GameTechTalk makes a lot of sense, based on what I’ve heard about the new direction of Xbox moving forward. Seems like they’re planning to focus more on Xbox as a platform/software across multiple devices, first and third party, and less on the physical Xbox itself.
Acer also has a new telescopic controller coming, nitro something similar branding to their upcoming pc handheld line, reminds me of the asus rog tessen telescopic controller u reviewed before, at least it in the way it folds, but has USB C connection rather than bluetooth and allows fast charging
So I've heard! From the article I've seen, it's announced for the Australian market so I don't know how/who to even reach out to to hopefully get a review unit. If it's sold in Canada, I'll buy it for sure!
A new Tarantula controller? Hell yes, let me guess, more buttons, there is room for 4 back buttons and 2 extra shoulders wolverine style. Still loving my T3, I only wish it had longer handles, my hands would thank them.
The focus was primarily new redesigns but if there is one thing I learned with GameSir, it is to not underestimate them, with the amount of unexpected releases they had in 2024, 2025 is looking to be as crazy if not crazier!
any new ps5 controller coming up?
Only one that I’ve seen, mind you I didn’t see everything. But the one I’ve seen, which was from Aolion was definitely a “cost-efficient” one that I wouldn’t trust as my primary controller
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So Aolion is coming up with a PS5 controller?
@@puneet7768 They are yeah, I think it's already available on AliExpress but he did tell me that sometimes firmware updates can break workability and that usually a new firmware update is required on the controller to fix that.
@ I can't find it on aliexpress, can you share the link?
I saw leaked photos of a Gamesir controller that could turn phone into a Gameboy-esque handheld. Really curious about that
Yup, I didn't talk about that but I know exactly what you're talking about, don't know if viewers will scour the comments but you just unlocked a "hush hush" product and let me tell you, I had a straight-up jawdrop when the CEO showed me it, I WANT IT SO BAD!!!! 🤣
@GameTechTalk lol it's crazy! I just found out 8bitdo released a clip for their tiny controllers (micro and zero 2) that can emulate the same feel of this upcoming Gamesir controller
@ Yup! I’m hoping I can cover that solution as well.
Had me worried there, i was about to feel like those kids who bought a Nintendo switch this Christmas 🏴☠️
Lol, I hope whatever the worry was that it subsided with this video! Cheers :)
Thunderobot G50S controller is pretty good.
I knew of the brand but I must say, their controls looked exquisite!
8:31 I am so excited about that one!
I am too ahahah! Hopefully I'll be able to review it soon enough
was hoping for xbox certified fli digi new.
such a shame that no one is making a ps4 kind of controller! only know the tarantula pro
There is one I didn't talk about hehehe because that one was full-on "secret mode", and I'm not referring to a recolor of the Tarantula. 😉 2025 will be exciting.
@GameTechTalk cant wait!
M-con fans unite here :D
PXN is a new-to-me brand. I'm interested in seeing your review of their wheel; partially to find out how good their products are and mostly to see how good of a driver you are. I imagine that you'll turn a few laps at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in whatever F1 game is your favorite. It's a fun track, if tricky. That could be why it's fun...
As a sim racer, PXN has a very bad rep in our community, stay clear for some years until they improved
@drchtct That's interesting, mind if I ask you to elaborate a bit? I know so little of that subset of gamers so any insight would be extremely appreciated!
I'm interested to try it as well, I haven't used a wheel in so long, plus I am happy they agreed cause I think my son will love playing with that but I must admit, I don't have a whole lot of points of comparisons! @mattdavis9601
@@GameTechTalk Overall just low quality, lots of failed products, and so on. It's important to note that the sim racing industry is in a different price category with most of its gear compared to controllers, so the expectations regarding quality and reliability are a lot higher. For example, their PXN V12 bundle is €560, so you risk & invest a lot more than with a €30 controller. It's very possible their controllers are fine.
On your next chat with the people at flydigi please ask them to add a headphone jack.
Ohh that's a great point, will do thanks!
the PXN 8k is already available online on ali , the apex 5 i heard it's also coming this year , and there should be an x30 from easysmx also .
the Machenie / Thunderobot what are they ?! are they one company or two ?! because they do market seperately and have a lot in common at the same time.
and big big won also a comapny with lots of potential , i hoped to see more than that downgraded controller , but i guess they are not as popular as they deserve so they are not taking risks.
and thx for the overview about the coming stuff this year and the trip seemed like an eye opening experience to see the people who make those amazing products in person and i am sure you were appreciating them like celeperties even though it was your first time to see them lol
So Machenike, Thunderobot are both sister companies to a much larger one and with all of them together, they are basically a "gaming tech" empire is what I have come to understand. That's definitely a company I'd love to learn a whole lot more about in 2025!
I guess the issue is we don't always know if the sales are as strong as the products are, we'd assume they are but it's all a big mystery. If I had to guess, BIGBIG WON is considerably better at making products than they are at marketing them. I hate to say, and I hope they won't take offense to my comment if they see this but I think it's factual. Their products are really awesome but I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of: "Uhh who are these guys?" when I talk about them. They also don't pop up in comments of unrelated videos like GameSir and Flydigi do for example.
@GameTechTalk i am kinda collecting different controllers , but I still didn't own a mechenike or Thunderobot controller, i like their modular sticks and i did consider the Thunderobot g80 .
As for big big won i do feel exactly the same now that i tried the blitz 2 tmr , i think they differently should bring something on the level of the blitz 2, maybe something with 6 extra buttons and analog triggers and trigger stops, and another minimalistic version, i am suggesting this because i know that they have the best software for multiple buttons in the market.
But my expectations is that the best controller in 2025 could be the apex 5 from Flydigi.
I hope you are going to start reviewing racing wheels especially budget to midrange wheels. I really want to buy one but most reviews on RUclips always vouch only for very expensive and extreme sim rig.
Apex 4 controller broke and stop Turing on properly and I haven't had anyone help me with support
Oh, that's no fun! I think they have a Discord, you might find better help there?
The only issue is have with flydigi is the fact that I get warnings from by anti virus. Not worth it to me.
I understand, I think it's due to requiring more deeply rooted code to address the controllers, I don't see how/why they'd risk their brand by installing malicious software but I respect and get your decision.
2:14 that’s not Genshin Impact, that’s Neon Genesis Evangelion
@@uncalledfour he don't think he was talking about that controller when he showed the B Roll... He was just going over all the controllers... I believe the pink one is the Genshin controller
@UONeal is correct, I just didn't align the B-roll, in production, these happen after the fact. Sometimes I'll align things accordingly but seeing as this would've created "disjointed" footage of me panning the camera, I decided not to. Sorry for the confusion, the purple is Evangelion, which was the first re-release too, the pink is Genshin Impact and the light blue is Honkai Star Rail. There are a few more to spot in the footage as well! :)
Genshin Impact....that looked like Evangelion
Sorry, the b-roll didn't match the controller you saw at that very moment but indeed, purple is Evangelion, pink is Genshin Impact, light blue is Honkai Star Rail.
if apple was smart they would partner with OhSnap
I wouldn't be surprised if they are already talking but these things won't hit the public before it's official
Mcon is about being pocketable but it's thicker than a lot of android handhelds and a 3ds. It's needs to be thinner.
@@NateBuildingBricks it can slide under the phone
@NateBuildingBricks Like, I get if the intention is to keep them attached at all times that it may be hard to "pocket" the combo. But frankly, I don't think I'd want such a controller, there is a need for a bit of depth for buttons, d-pads and sticks to be the best they can be. But here's the thing though, if you don't mind disconnecting the magnets and putting each your phone and the controller in each a pocket, there is NO WAY that the MCON does not fit. Simply impossible. And if you rock a jacket, both attached will fit in most jacket pockets.
@@GameTechTalk Oh I don't mean having the phone attached while it's in the pocket. I mean just the controller by itself is thicker than actual handhelds. The current model looks too thick. A handheld like the 3DS, Vita, Anbernic 35xxh, Trimui Smart Pro, and many others look more pocketable than just the mcon controller without a phone attached.
@@robertcastanpn288 Yes. I'm referring to the controller without a phone attached.
Pleease chinese companies, sell this controller format for cheaper in Aliexpress for those who live in poor countries (Sorry to the actual guy who made it and the company lol)
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I really want that Steam version of the G7 Pro. It looks fantastic.
Steam version? Every xinput controller is the "steam" version. G7 Pro will be wireless for PC and wired for Xbox.
@@Psychotoxic86 Conductive sticks and gyro is deal breaker for steam
@@Psychotoxic86 The Steam version has gyro and capacitive touch sticks as well as extra inputs (back paddles) that can be individually mapped through Steam. This is not possible with any Xinput controller. Only the Elite 2 has back paddles that can be individually mapped in Steam Input.
My guy, I want it SOOOOOO MUCH!! But it's real, at least we know that so I'm ok being patient but that could be a MASSIVE GAMECHANGER, the Steam controller from Hori is nice, but we need a premium version of that and that G7 Pro might just be exactly what we need and want. 2025 will be CRAZY!
@Moskeeto Yo wait a minute, you're the Moskeeto that I referred to a while back in a video, you made truckloads of tutorials for the Steam Deck and had that video about Okami using the trackpads! Nice to see you around :)
The flydigi wee looks awful brother i gotta admit.
That company has come a long way, I don't know if they'll go back to telescopic controllers but to think they started there is out of this world.
@@GameTechTalk they are definitely a decent company and have some sick looking controllers packed with features etc man no question will have to grab one soon if they do transparent black and red I'm all over it hope your well and had good Christmas brother 🏆👊
@mindyournose Thanks, I hope you have as well!