How To Grade V-Log QUICKLY & EASILY - Perfect Panasonic V-Log Grading
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2021
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THE GEAR I USE:
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CAMERAS:
My Main Cam (Lumix S5ii)
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My B-Cam (Lumix S5)
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My C-Cam (Lumix S1)
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PRIME LENSES:
Panasonic LUMIX 24mm F1.8
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Panasonic LUMIX 35mm F1.8
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Panasonic LUMIX 85mm F1.8
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ZOOM LENSES:
Sigma 28-70 F2.8
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Panasonic LUMIX 16-35 F4
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Panasonic LUMIX 70-200 F4
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AUDIO SETUP:
Rode NTG4+
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Tascam DR60 MKii
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Hollyland Lark 150
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LIGHTING SETUP
Godox LA200d
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Colbor CL60
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Godox SL60w
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Smallrig Softbox
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DESK & COMPUTING
My Main Computer (Mac Mini)
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Laptop (M1 Pro MacBook Pro 1TB)
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Computer Monitor (Viewsonic ColorPro VP2786-4K)
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Logitech Craft Keyboard
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Logitech M590 Mouse
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SanDisk G-Drive 6TB
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So V-Log is one of those things that people either struggle with or get nailed straight away. For the first few months of owning the Panasonic S5, I struggled with V-Log and stuck to Cinelike D.
Until Russell told me about the gamut conversion LUT...
This V-Log to Rec709 conversion LUT is insanely good and easily the best solution i've seen for converting your log footage to a workable starting point.
I hope all of you Panasonic shooters check this conversion LUT out, and please let me know how you find it! 
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Just got a G9ii and have started experimenting with V-Log - this is really helpful. Thanks!
Tomorrow morning I'm going to buy the S5 , thanks for all the information👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Awesome! Thanks for watching Frank -I hope you enjoy it!
Frank did you buy it?
Really great. I have also tried so many LUTs for Vlog - and they never really worked every time. But after watching this I have bought the conversion LUT and it really works so nice as a starting point when grading V-log footage. It even works with footage from the S5. Thx a lot, Mate! ;-)
I have nothing to say but i wanna leave a comment to support you... Keep showing us how awesome the s5 is...👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿
Haha thank you mate!
@@JoshCameron you're welcome...
It does not happen often but I purchased the conversion LUT from the link. And need to say that it works great. So we’ll spent 15$. Thanks Josh, you got a new subscriber 🏹
Hey Charlie! That's awesome - I wouldn't recommend something I didn't truly use and believe in, so really happy you're liking it too! Thanks for the sub dude!
Just so you know i liked the video while its on commercials because i know you always put out quality content🤙🏽
AH dude! Thanks so much haha! Really appreciate that!
I watched this video so often before getting the S5. Now I watch it again and I have this camera 🤪 your videos are amazing bruh
Hey Paul! Thanks dude, really appreciate it! Keep tuned, a lot more S5 vids on the way 🤪😂
Grabbed this lut and it made my footage from my new S5 II so much easier to work with! Thank you 🙏🏾🎉
Hope you enjoy it mate, I still use it all the time:)
Fantastic! Just what I was looking for, thanks 👍
“I’m going to give it a little jiggle on the curves” 😉
Super helpful video mate, appreciate this so much. Starting to shoot VLOG myself now so an easy grade is ideal for someone new to video like me.
Always gotta jiggle the curves mate ;)
Thanks Josh.
I’m new to all this. Really appreciate your help!!
Just bought the Vlog lut for my S5, based on your recommendation, filmed some flowers in Vlog, applied the LUT - and bang. Instant happy face! Thanks :-)
Wahey! Glad you like it, it's a killer LUT and definitely worth the money :)
I've tried a lot of different V-log LUTs for my GH6, but has experienced some skin tone "blotching" or colour artifacts in the shadows. This video atleast encouraged me to have a look at the Gamut- LUT to see if it's better. Have anyone else ever seen the spotty-color artifacts in red/skintone areas?
Thanks a lot.
We need video about how to expose v-log in the panasonic s5. Please. :)
Coming right up :)
Thank you Josh I am getting these luts for my Lumix cameras.
This is quite funny, I stumbled across the Gamut LUT a couple of days ago when researching how to grade v log. If you remember, I commented lately how your video about Panasonic vs Sony gave me a lot of thought about handling. Today is the last day on a very significant sale on the S5, so I'm very close to pulling the trigger. We shall see.
Awesome stuff, definitely makes working easier!
Glad you found this helpful, Kai!
Wow. Fantastic grading tool, and not a 30 minute video to explain the process, lol!
This is a crazy good starting point. As someone who has struggled with LUT's and has been hesitant to fully adopt them, this may persuade me other wise :)
I've always had issues with LUT's, but this is the first one that I can honestly recommend to everyone else... it's so good!
Thanks man, came across this after buying the conversion luts today haha
Let me know how you get along!
That was a great explanation of how best to use the V-Log! Cheers Josh :)
Thanks Steve!
@@JoshCameron I'm just (finally) going to get the Gamut V-Log, is the boost one worth getting as well?
I use it with Vegas 18. Works perfectly. You can use it on a shot by shot mode, or attach it to a complete track. Thanks for the advice and the video !
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Super clear !! Thank you
Thank you Lorenze! Thanks for watching :)
Really considering getting the S5 and S1 because channels like yours are a great resource. I have an a7iii and 24-105 G f/4 that I may trade in plus cash to get the S5 or s1.
Eddie, my friend, DO IT! You honestly won't regret it. The Panasonic ergonomics and colours make these cameras so much more enjoyable to use :)
@@JoshCameron yup. Camera and 20-60mm kit arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. Also bought the 35 1.8. I'm going to straight binge on your videos! 💥💯. Little nervous because I already have a Sony kit and this is an entirely different system. Livin' on the edge! 😎
Thanks for this. I am new to V-Log and have been experimenting a little with it. One step I don't understand when you start grading: applying the Custom Lut to the clip on the timeline... I just go the info tab of the clip and then go to Camera LUT and select a LUT from the dropdown menu... Seems to do the same thing...
Hey Josh, great content and love the insight, is there a way of sampling this LUT before I purchase?
Awesome video Josh! Do you use a white balance / color calibration card as part of this process? Can this same process be done as easily with Davinci?
You got a new Subscriber. Looking for grading solutions for my new GH6
Awesome video. I downloaded the LUT package $20 U.S. and unfortunately the one click to an almost ideal footage didn't happen for me when I applied it to my Panasonic GH5S VLog footage. I have to brighten it up quite substantially (0.7 in Exposure -Premiere Pro) and then bump whites, highlights and and even shadows. I did bump up the midtones and highlights on the color wheels as well while pushing more blues into the midtones. Compared to another LUT I just started using, this LUT 'V-Log 2.0 really looks nice after all of that tweaking. It looks 10x better for sure. True, I can get the desired look in about 30 to 60 seconds, I just wasn't expecting to have to do so many touch ups after watching your video. Not sure if I need to start forcing my GH5s to overexpose by 2/3 stop so that when I apply the lut it will be at the right exposure to lay on top of footage to make it really pop. Perhaps with this change, I will then be able to only tweak the color wheels and push a little color into the midtones and/or highlights like you demonstrated in your video. I think that I will try this and report back. Thank you for taking the time to share. Much appreciated!!!
Thanks for this video! How would you do this with 12 bit raw ProRes v-log where you can set the correct whitebalance and iso (with fcpx standard tools)? Does this lut give you the ability to adjust these?
Thanks Josh your videos have been so helpful on the S5.
At £1400 from a grey seller its got to be the best value hybrid camera on the market.
The only downside for my workflow is I've heard the 1080p is not very good. It may seem strange to shoot HD in 2021 but most of my work is quick turnaround hybrid content for social media that just doesn't need 4K (now mostly vertical).
I need to update my equipment mainly for gimbal use where Im very weak.
At the moment the logical camera for me is the A7C. But the general handling of that camera compared to the S5 is very poor.
So I've held and used the A7C, and let me tell you - it's not a comfortable experience. The features it has are really good, but the EVF is tiny, the screen is poor and the whole build of that camera feels a little plasticky to me.
the 1080p on the S5 is absolutely fine, and would be much better than the A7C since you're able to get 10bit colour, and that in itself will make a big difference. Another thing to note is that most cameras shoot 1080p to be quite soft nowadays, so a little bit of sharpening in post wouldn't hurt anyone :)
@@JoshCameron Josh is there ratio markers like 4:5 etc for social media vertical shooting.
@@JoshCameron You can also experiment with in-camera sharpening, and save it as a custom setting for greater efficiency.
I know that for many it may seem easy but it would be great if you make a video explaining how to perform your white balance
I can defo do that!
Hi Josh!
Absolutely loving your videos buddy, you're doing a great job.
How do you get the white balance right in camera?
That's something I always struggle with. Maybe it could be a topic for a new video?
Cheers
Barry
Hey Barry! I have a video coming out about this today! Keep an eye out for it :)
@@JoshCameron Brilliant stuff Josh! Thanks man. 👊🍻
On davinci resolve, I use color space transform to convert v-log to arri log-c, then I use an Arri to Rec709 lut. Works quite well for me, much better color, contrast, and saturation than the v-log to Rec709 lut! I wonder how this method will compare to the gamut lut!
Ah cool! Yeah would love to see how they compare... For me, Davinci is just a little too intense haha! I would use it and fully utilise the capabilities of the S5, but more often than not I need to turn content around very quickly!
On my A7III I had really good results with grading with an Arri LUT. Now you have me wanting to try it on the S5, lol :)
Yeah I do this too - my s5 internal recording looks nearly as good as my C200 raw light when I transform them both to arri colour space in Davinci.
hi, where can i find Arri to Rec709 lut?
@@laurentiudll if you use davinci resolve, it's in the lut tab in the color page
Quick question, in the scenario where your WB and colors are off a bit and need to be corrected, are you correcting before or after the LUT?
Thanks for the link to Gamut LUT. Recently purchased S5 (after three years with GH5,) and CinelikeD2 seems a bit washed out compared to CinelikeD. Will try with Vlog, am no colourist but will give your method a go.
Let me know how you get on!
i also used the gh5 3 years and now i use the s5 as well :)
Hi mate, I'm new to this game. Can you tell me the gamut lut that you have on your link is that the exact same one that you are using in the video where it has all the shadows, mids ect that's on the laptop or is that a separate app that needs to be added to a laptop. Love your videos, bro. Thanks
Thanks for the video! What about the conversion lut Panasonic themselves offer? That’s the one I’ve been using so far.
I have used the Panasonic ones and they're a little hit and miss... However this LUT has ALWAYS been perfect for me :)
You should just use an adjustment layer to apply the lut on all the clips instead of applying to each clip
No
@@fredriksvard2603 this is a faster and more efficient solution that would allow you to add a base color grade to all the clips, while still being able to fine tune each individual clip
Good presentation, Josh. I purchased the LUT---and it's excellent, and works best if you over expose by a stop or two. I took on clip from my S1, shot in V-log, used the Gamut LUT, duplicated the clip and used the Nicest LUT. I found them to be very close no identical but close and---pretty simple to match---and I'm no Einstein at matching colors.
Good video. Thanks!
Have you found yourself using only a percentage of the LUT's effect capabilities rather than having to push and pull the image so much with adjustment sliders and wheels?
Hey William, ah I'm glad the LUT is working well for you :)
I normally set the LUT to 100% and then do any adjustments I need to do with the curves and colour wheels... This has given me the best results so far!
Great video - any experience using this with the Sony Alpha cameras? I wonder if it will have a similar effect on the A6400's S-Log format 🤔
Hey! Unfortunately not, however I had the A6400 for about a year before I got my Panasonic cameras and I wouldn't recommend using log on any 8bit sony body. The 8bit colour isn't really built for flat profiles and I always had a hard time getting decent results with it. The S5 is 10bit, so it means you have a lot more colour info stored in the file for when you want to go in a grade a bit heavier :)
@@JoshCameron thanks for the response, Josh! I take that best to avoid S-log in general on 8bit Sony cameras then…
I bought this because of your vid! Do you need to white balance before or after or even at all? Thanks
I'd suggest Setting white balance before you shoot all of the time!
What are some good settings on the s5 for v log?
I bought the lut just after seeing your video and tried it with my vlog footage shot with the GH5.
I just can say that the result is amazing and better than the official lit of Panasonic. I made few tweaks as you in Final Cut and it’s the first time I’m satisfied with my footage. I was using the leeming lut before but this one is clearly better.
Obviously exposure and white balance must be precise when shooting to obtain the best results in post.
What percentages do you put on your zebra in the S5 ?
Because leeming don’t give the same settings as Gamut for zebras. Nevertheless gamut fiche a guide to follow that works with their luts.
Glad the LUT works as well for you as it does for me!
I don't actually use any zebras, Just false colour on my monitor to review how my skintones are exposed, and that's it :)
Man tempted to get this LUT, how well does it play with the recent pack you released?
I recently released a preset for photography - not for video! But when I release some LUT's at the start of next year, I'm going to design them so they work with this conversion LUT perfectly :)
Have you tried Panasonics free set of vlog luts already? I‘m very happy with the results, too.
I have indeed... Mixed results for me...
Any good workflows for HEVC 4K 60fps and 24fps 10bit files in Premiere? Convert to another format for better playback or make proxies?
Thanks for video. Can I use it as real time LUT inside Panasonic s5iix?
Of course! I do that all the time :)
is it because i installed the mlut from motion vfx? i cant see the custom lut.
Hey mate, think I'll need to grab this...
Any idea how to install, and use it with Premiere Pro?
I'm not sure, but there's bound to be millions of tutorials out there :)
so we have to buy the lut? Is there a way to create it on our own?
On the eva1 - when shooting VLOG they say you should expose 1-2 stops more. How do I know I’m + 1-2 stops? Which meter in camera should I be using for this?
Hey Guru! So you can see this on the light meter at the bottom of the screen, or even with waveforms - just makes sure the highlights are protected at the top :) I hope this helps!
hey, what do you do against noise when filming in vlog?
I tend to film at ISO 640 or ISO 4000 since they'll give you the cleanest image depending on how much light you actually need.
I always over expose by 2 or 3 stops as well :D
It would have been great to see a comparison against non VLog footage.
I will put that on the content calendar. Great idea!
Hi Josh,
Have you tried the Panasonic standard Vlog to Rec709 lut? I would have thought that any Pana lut would be better than any other specific tool.
I have, and this one is far better in my opinion :)
@@JoshCameron I finally bought it and I love it, I agree that it’s better than Panasonic standard Lut, more contrast without loosing details. Thanks for the recommendation.
If I’m shooting in 8-bit, is there any reason to use VLOG? Can I just stay with Like 709 or Cinelike D?
I wouldn't shoot in log if you're only recording 8bit video. There isn't a lot of flexibility there to work with so it's always best to go down the Natural PP or Cinelike D route instead !
What is the difference between V-Log picture profile and V-log pro res raw. Is the v-log picture profile sort of a fake pro res raw preset for Long GOP footage?
if i want to adjust exposure for just one part of an video how do i do it?
lets say that the first part has correct exposure but the last part clips highlights
i want to change that last part only not the first.
is it possible?
Hey Patrik, it is possible using an adjustment layer or two, but the transition may be tricky to get seamless
If I slap this on, what other LUT do you recommend for "cinematic" look?
I rarely tend to use 'look' LUTs, if I were you i'd dial it in manually!
@@JoshCameron well, I am not good at color grading just learning it actually
by default the input and output is Rec. 2020, is Rec. 709 better for colours? Did you get the v-log V2 included with yours?
Rec709 and Rec 2020 are simply just the colour spaces that you should configure your footage to once it's ready to be seen on other devices. If I were you, i'd stick with Rec709 as it's more widely used compared to Rec.2020 :)
I'm a bit confused (noob) in that VLog records in rec709 and not BT2020 color space (unlike HLG) on the S5. Also, where does VGamut come into play?. Is it is it just a case of selecting a BT2020 LUT for output?
If I were you, I wouldn’t worry about BT2020 as a colour space if you’re planning on sharing the content across different devices and on social media etc. Rec709 is still the most common colour space that things are displayed in, so essentially the V-Log LUT will convert that log footage to a rec709 colour space. V-Gamut refers to the colour information that’s stored inside of the V-Log file, and is the optimum choice for maximum colour reproduction :)
Its impossible to value the LOT with such a tiny adjustment. You have so much more to do there if you want but I do respect the choise. We have all different referens we will reach.Most important is as you say the skin tones but by adjusting the ambient environment it can lift/strengthen the impression even more. My thaughts.
I agree with you here, but I’m not a colourist and I’m very realistic with how much time I want to spend on colouring my footage. I do anywhere between 2-5 shoots a week, all with a fast turnaround - so therefore speed and workflow are very important for me!
@@JoshCameron I really buy that but it could come by the road later. Its just frustrating to se that you have more in you. Its nice to see the "pure" work as you do. I am 65 and cant have that kind of "new" feeling as you do but I have never had so fun as now with both stills and video.Will work 10 more years if I got the health for it. So, just go for it !!! I forgot .... in both "our" case i really want to suggest something even better (try it) and that is Cenema Grade by Denver Riddle. (Color Grading Central) That is quick !
Yeah I’ve tried cinema grade before - wasn’t a fan to be honest! It ran quite slow on my old Mac and I don’t think it’s optimised for M1 just yet...
@@JoshCameron The good thing is that nothing is just right or wrong. We got different ways to reach our goals. That's creative. Thanks for your good content.🤗
is it ok pour GH6 ?
Yup!
Hey
What was your white balance ?
I believe it was set to cloudy!
hey its not working now i just purchased it rn what can i do now
Can i buy panasonic s5 for vlogging
Of course !
What editing program is this ?
Final Cut Pro X :)
Did I understand well you shot everything inside at ISO 4000?
Nono, dual native iso from VLOG is : 640-4000 iso
@@thiagosomogyi I know but why didn't he shoot at 640? He said he shot everything inside at 4000.
@@jeroenwolf346 When you're filming a vlog, it's good to overexpose a little more than usual. I think that's why. And if it's too much exposed maybe he had an ND filter
Anyone tried it on GH5?
Works just the same :)
Does this LUT work with S5iiX?
You mean for the REAL Time LUT function? If so, then yes!
@@JoshCameron so in camera baked LUT? I see you are working with Vlog footage and adding the LUT in post…
@@westcoastsigns9675 You can add the LUT to the camera to DISPLAY in that lut so that you get an idea of what it will look like. It doesn't actually record in that LUT... that would defeat the purpose of working with v-log.
In fact, you can ask it to display on the regular display, or on an external monitor, if you're using one... or both, or not at all.
Take a shot every time he says literally ;)
You'll be drunk in no time ;)
i purchased and downloaed it. but there's no installer in the zip file. what happened? can anyone tell me where the installer is?
there is no auto installer. You have to go into your application e.g. Premiere Pro in your finder application (I use MAC so I opened a 'Finder' window then to Applications) and right click 'Show Package Contents' go to Lumetri and then LUTS and then Technical folder. I copied the download (.cube files only) from my Downloads designated folder to this 'Technical' folder. If Premiere Pro is open, close and then restart it. If not open, just open it and it will show up in the Lumetri Color panel in the Input LUT dropdown list. This worked for me. I wish you luck.
a tad dissapointed, i follow you for your tutorials and great way to explain, but this sounds like a paid ad, as much can be "inexpensive" im sure there's a normal way to grade it without having to pay for more stuff
I can assure you, this isn’t an ad and I don’t have any affiliation with the company that sell the conversion LUT. I just wanted to share the way I grade my V-Log footage and the best method I’ve found for a quick turnaround!
Sorry to disappoint buddy! Didn’t mean for it to have that feeling!
@@JoshCameron understood, nothing wrong with the video tbh, I'm new to pannie world and you're my first reference, just wanted to be honest 😎
Keep going , your channel is stunning!
Really appreciate the support mate! Hope you’re enjoying your panny 🤪
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You try to sell gamat conversions files , so I've unsubscribed