FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR EXPLAINS WHY OSCAR DELA HOYA COULDN'T LEARN THE SHOULDER ROLL
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Floyd Mayweather Sr teaches the shoulder roll, demonstrates the effectiveness of it and explains why his former fighter Oscar Dela Hoya couldn't get it.
Floyd makes that shoulder roll look so easy in real time. When he fought Canelo he was doing that same move they just showed us off the ropes.
Yea but alot of ppl that try to copy floyd dont realize that floyd doesnt use it all the time in every fight. He uses a high guard quite a bit also and switches.
There is no best style. There are things that work out of all styles. It's all about the fighters tools fitting with a particular style.
@@jemalldulaney9943most of a style is really situational
One of the best trainers in the game
Then why hasn't he made any fighter more susessful then he was before he came to him. Floyd Jr is just great and would have been great with 10 different styles.
Sr is a fountain of Boxing knowledge from the old school of Boxing
shoulder roll is classic from all the real boxing bed spots like Philly New York Detroit etc
SR SAID THE OL TIMERS USED AND TAUGHT EM THAT SO HE COULD FIGHT WITHOUT GETTIN HIT AFTER HE GOT HIS CAV SHOT OFF. THE SHOULDER ROLL WAS THE ONLY WAY FOR HIM TO KEEP FIGHTING WITHOUT FOOTWORK OR LEGS TO ESCAPE. HE MADE JR LEARN IT EARLY SO HE COULD FIGHT STRONGER GUYS IN THE POCKET LIKE HE HAD TOO.
sometimes sr makes a 2minute video feel like 20 minutes
De la Hoya’s posture sits naturally too far over his front leg to make the shoulder roll effective. His best head movement came from changing levels rather than slipping, because his feet are so narrow he has poor lateral stability.
Leonard's speed and power broke through that shell,, Lol.. His son took the shoulder roll to another level though..
Sr. only had two weeks notice and he's nowhere near as fast as Floyd. Floyd and Paq are light years ahead in terms of speed. And please re-watch the fight. Sr. was outboxing Leonard until he gassed out.
Also sr had issues with his knees by the time of this fight
Rahdi Allah The Artist yeah he has a broken hand and got shot in the leg not to long before they fight.
You got an ill name, God !
Sr and Roger didnt have the athletic gifts of mayweather. We always remember a old mayweather jr but when mayweather jr was young he had ray leonard type athleticism.
Dontae asks some damn sneaky questions, you now damn well oscar didn't do well with the shoulder roll and got the answer he wanted because he made it seem like he didn't know about oscar not mastering the shoulder roll which suckered Floyd Sr, into answering truthfully good question dontae ...
***** what is he going to say to them on camera in a interview ??? "You know I have a problem with you, you do this wrong, blah blah blah etc, etc ..." No he proves his point indirectly, and he is accurate on most occasions, and if they dont realize when someone tries to play you in a interview or succeed in getting them to answer honestly the reporter did what they were supposed to do, and if your not alert for those slick questions maybe you should hire a PR assistant ...
Ramon Turner -Oscar got popped because he didn't duck the punches coming to his head and he couldn't counter punch off of the roll
It worked well enough on Vargas
Oscar is left handed fighting In a right handed stance. That's why
Oscar is left-handed
Hard to punch off of the shoulder roll with your weak hand.
Very good point. best point here.
obiclone in oscar's case, he would have to roll with his right hand which is his weaker hand since he's a lefty.
rick rich you never watched pretty boy floyd only money im assuming
obiclone i am southpaw,can i use shoulder roll
rick rich he digs when he has to
SR GOT SHOT IN LEG AND HAD TO USE IT SOLELY. FLOYDS HANDS BROKE DOWN LATER AND HE HAD TO USE IT MORE THAN HIS FAVORED HIGH GUARD HE LOVED TO FIGHT OFFENSIVELY, THEN USING SHOULDER ROLL DEFENSE AND COUNTER PUNCHING
Interesting. When did Floyd Jr. switch from high guard to shoulder roll?
She made sure she got the number at the end. LOL
haha yuppp. he gonna beat that up after training.
old school boxers started the shoulder roll, archie moore, was probably the best at it
Nice, now I know to fight with my Galaxy Note in my hand without dropping it!
Now you can beat someone up in the middle of a call.
"Hey, just give me a second."
BAP POW
Respect to pops 💪 his knowledge is like no other.
These comments are fascinating. Mayweather Sr didn't invent the shoulder roll defense. It's a strategy that's been around since before he was born. Mayweather jr was not the first to perfect it either. Other great fighters like SRR and James Toney came along before him utilizing it as good as it's ever been done.
cmi2is There was also a fighter from Argentina that did It seriously well too, can't remember his name though. I think SR. Is legit convinced he perfected It and made It his style, but there Is an Interview with him on the suggested videos where he says an old man taught him how to catch punches and return them, and he practiced It on his own from there. You are correct though, he surely didn't Invent It.
cmi2is agree 100 percent only difference is there hasnt ever been a defensive fighter that is the athlete that floyd is. most guys with the athletic gifts that floyd has are normally offensive and depend heavily on hand speed. There has never been a defensive fighter as fast as floyd. but yeah james toney has used this for years and its worked very well for him he says he was influenced by ezzard charles(havent seen much of him). As far as sugar ray robinson....he utilized it but he took alotta punishment. Lots of it. he was too offensive minded to take full advantage of it. but u are right.....floyd is not the first
Forw1072 Well, Id say Roy Jones was a defensive fighter who was more athletic than Floyd. Only difference is that Roy created traps for KO's rather than wanting to go the distance. I don't now if there's ever been a fighter as defensive minded as Floyd at that level. For Robinson, the shoulder roll was a tool he utilized from time to time, but he wasn't really a defensive fighter at all, that's true. and don't get it twisted, Floyd heavily depends on hand speed. His father even said that hand speed is a major tool for making the shoulder roll an effective strategy. If Floyd had slow hands, he'd be far from undefeated.
cmi2is this is coming from the biggest roy fan on youtube...ME haha. but i personally think roy wasnt very defensive at all. jus my opinion though. he used his hand speed to scare dudes from punching and opening up after a few rounds. very bad technique defensively. hands stayed low basically daring dudes to throw. And when he lost his legs he took alotta punishment. Roy WAS more athletic but i wouldnt call him defensive. but i agree wit floyds hand speed
Forw1072 Sounds a lot like Floyd to me. He rolls punches away and uses his hand speed to counter and land clean shots. Half way through the fight the opponent is simply standing in front of him afraid to throw. Roy did drop his hands a lot. But if you notice he never suffered because of it. He usually just got caught with a good shot with his hands up. Tarver, Johnson, Green, Lebedev, they all caught him with his hands up and simply slipped a punch through his guard. I think it was all the mystic. Once Roy lost to Tarver, the mystic was gone and fighters stopped being intimidated. It happens with most great fighters. Floyd is benefiting from it now, but if he ever loses, you'll see he'll no longer have that mystic. It's funny how a fighter being undefeated helps them stay undefeated. That's why I give Pac a bit more credit as a fighter as far as legacy goes. He's been defeated more than once, but even with the mystic gone, it doesn't change the outcome. He just keeps on winning like he never lost. Can't wait until next week. We're in for a great fight.
Oscar couldn't punch off the shoulder roll because Oscar was left-handed fighting in a right-handed stance that's why he couldn't punch off of it
Mayweather didnt invent the should roll but he perfected it he study other fighter who use the should roll and added to it so he evolve it. gradually develop from the simple form to a more complex from, him and james toney was the best at it in this error but there style were different
He got it from his coach Dale Williams
that was informative
the shoulder roll technique from detroit Michigan baby
Nightmare Nightmare yeah but the shoulder roll style come from michigan. ( toney , mayweather and other )
HPM Royale good to Know. Thx
Lassembleur Beatmacoeur Philly Shell is from george benton.
Ain't no one going to learn that apart from Floyd.
beautiful
It worked well enough on Vargas
It’s all in the stance
Luv Floyd joy sr
The shoulder roll, at the highest levels, has got to be learned from the start. When you’re young.
Otherwise, instincts are hard to overcome. It’ll betray you at key moments.
Fun Fact: Sr got charged for smacking this broad around. A fighter under his wing.
yo Dontae What the name for that instrumental????
And of course Oscar didn't do the shoulder roll. It wouldn't work with his style anyways he'd have to change his whole style of fighting!
THAT NOT THE PHILLY ROLL THAT S MAYWEATHER ROLL
Shoulder should block the center line
Ray jones jr is the only style that could beat the philly shell
Great video
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Mayweather got that same smile
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Floyd Sr tbe
She's a retired professional boxer.
Swedish, Mikaela Laurén
Teddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Teddy Pendergrass?
I thought in thr vargas fight oscar used the shoulder roll beautifully.
Oscar wasn't touched on the ropes. Every shot glanced
Ronda roysy should have hired this man
More like turning your back against your opponent
Seems like it but its not. Actually helps in grappling situations like MMA too if you have good athletic ability and can stay calm under fire
That blonde man scares me!
Oscar had more of a cross guard
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Dantae speak your mind bruh... "He was getting popped"
Your known for the TRUTH!!
Whos the girl? is she a pro boxer ? would love top see a female boxer with the shoulder roll style
Im sure clarissa sheilds can do it
Mi, Amor that's the former middleweight champion Mikaela Lauren
Oh, she kissed that other champ at the faceoff. That's why she looks familiar.
De la hoya dijo que no gustaba por que sr usa mucha el hombro
You cannot teach the shoulder roll that got to come natural stick to the basic fundamentals
Damn shes scary
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Clearly I'm just here to laugh: ahahahahahahahahaha
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Sr's shoulder roll didn't work on Leonard and Marlon Starling .
But he taught it to his son and his son perfected it
john b
Yes, because nobody like Leonard or Starling has fought Floyd.
Leonard pounded Sr's kidneys . Took the legs out of him.
Uriel Zinn
And Jr has punching power at 147 ?
He hasn't knock anyone down at 147 since cheating the scales on JMM and hitting Ortiz before Ortiz kissed him.
Uriel Zinn
Yes, he's a one-two and run kinda boxer.
If he was white, nobody would watch him.
Uriel Zinn
If EVERYONE fought like Floyd, boxing would DIE.
The Klits have more exciting fights but nobody here wants to see them.
Joe Calz was more exciting than Floyd, he couldn't sell here.
dontae, anything to discredit a Mexican. SMH
He didn't need to... lol
she cant be nothing but a fighter
Oscar is left handed like broner and pavlik. Only white boy ward uses that weakness for strength.
Cotto does ok too.
Kingladell Donaldson Andre Ward is mixed