How to Shoulder Roll in Boxing (Philly Shell like Floyd Mayweather)
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Love him or hate him, you can learn some great boxing moves from Floyd Mayweather. Like his defensive shoulder roll from the Philly Shell stance. However, there is more than just blocking with the shoulder (in fact I made this mistake a few fights ago), because that leaves you in a dangerous range for follow up punches. Learn how to properly shift back, knock your opponent off balance, and land your counter punch!
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this guy dont really know too much about floyd's style... They dont understand, its not leaning, that lean is one small part of the roll.... there's much more to it then just ur upper body rolling and leaning... This type of roll will get you Ko'ed, especially if you aint experienced and dont know what ur doing... The roll Floyd uses comes from the turn, he closes up his chin into his shoulder, and almost like throwing a punch with the right technique and snap! That's how he rolls his shoulder! it's tucking ur chin into ur shoulder and snapping it like a punch, at the same time u snap you turn and bam! You roll the punch... This type of roll is not smart, and is wrong on a lot of levels... No balance, and you need to be facing a really bad fighter to pull this off.... I dont recommend this at all.... Also, Floyd has different foot work, if you ever watch Floyd fight look at the direction his LEAD FOOT is pointed at, hes turned side ways!
How will you get knocked out? It's not an efficient Mayweather roll to counter but your head is waaay far away to be hit by a straight.
Because, no one is going to stand there and throw the punch from where they are standing... They're going to come forward and throw the shot in real time! You really think this guy has time to stop and pull this off? thats why i said this only will work on a beginner.... Unless you use it properly, by stopping the punch like a shield and having your chin properly tucked and having your feet in the right position. In real time he can pull this off against a beginner who just throws ONE punch.
The "shoulder roll" in this video is the kind you could do while backing up to avoid one or two punches, kind of like McGregor did a few times against Diaz this last August. A big part of the shoulder roll is the distance as the man in the video stated, however he failed to understand how to control that distance in the way Mayweather does. Mayweather doesn't lean straight back like that, no, he uses his front foot to give off the illusion that he's closer than he is which makes people commit to the punch from further out than they should, allowing him to roll it off as you stated without issue. On top of that, looks can be deceiving -- if you watch him do it slowly, a lot of the time when he's actively rolling multiple punches in a row, he's using help from his elbow to flick the punch away along with the shoulder. He utilizes a lot more elbow and forearm defensive techniques than people give him credit for, if he was only doing one type of shoulder roll all day, people would adjust. Instead, he adjusts to them. The theory the video presents about why the shoulder roll works as well as it does is true, they just focused on the wrong part and in practice, this could be dangerous if you're not using it in moderation.
Yes I agree, there's a lot more to that roll then people think.... The way it was done in this video is very basic and he doesn't even have his chin tucked, not to mention the positioning of his feet is horrendous.
OldSkoolBoxingg Well said.
and thats why mayweather is the best defensive fighter
Floyd DOES NOT use the real philly shell. He uses it other way sort of variation that works for him. If you really want to see how it's done watch George Benton or James Toney.
Siergiej882 Kowaliow imma natural Philly shell meaning when I first put on the gloves I just naturally did it BEFORE I knew it was Philly shell and after I knew what it was I studied all the professional boxer who used it and I agree benton and James Toney were master's at it Mayweather as well but it's something you have to perfect in your own style.
@@KingDumas lmao
@@KingDumashow does it work for you when do you use it?
@@tkdamusicman it’s just a stance at first but you can use it offensively and with defense.. there’s small little things outside of the Philly shell that you naturally incorporate with it … the best way for me defensively is being in close damn near nose to nose or right outside the opponents reach as well
@@KingDumas big fax the philly shell is so good at blocking body punches.
Trevor Whitman.... Ooooo big respect
Shane can you make a video on how to always kick with the shin..?
aim
+bdgil1 it's really that simple
Figure out range.. Duh
I really enjoy these trainer tip videos good job Shane
+Marino Horvat Great to hear Marino!
Hey shane! Can you do a video about mixing punch combos with leg kicks? Would be interesting to see you explain what to consider :)
Good video Shane, keep up the good work!
Hey Shane, any way you can do a video on ground game and/or give me a recommendation to a channel that focuses on it? Huge fan man I love your videos.
+David Glenn I agree, I hope he does. Stephan Kesting, and the Gracies are pretty good
Thanks for the help! it's helping me gradually get better.
Lol everytime I look for boxing tips I always stumble on to this channel
yo Shane i'd love it if you made a descriptive analysis of the Philly Shell and how to use it
some also use it to catch punches on the shoulder long enough to to counter
@fightTIPS please do a video on why you fight. That would be very cool because I have this feeling now for a while which tells me to start fighting (in a ring of course) I'm training boxing now for about 4-5 years and my parents and my whole family are telling me that I can't win anything in these amateur fights and only can get hurt, where they have a point I think, so please tell me/us what keeps you fighting. That would be awesome (sorry for my bad English) greetings from Germany
Dude look, sometimes the biggest critics and naysayers come in the form of your family. If this is something you want to pursue, NO ONE AND NOTHING can get in your way except yourself. If boxing truly is your dream, and you are willing to make any sacrifices to achieve your goals then why let what they say affect you? You need to get your head in the right place man. This is boxing, of course you're going to get hurt. Of course you're going to take big hits. But it's about the experience and the glory, and most importantly your HAPPINESS. If you've been boxing seriously for 3 years as you said you have been, with an actual trainer and sparring happening in this time period, then you are MORE than ready to compete in amateur tournaments.
Hey Shane I know you posted a video on how to take a punch, but I was wondering how much does adrenalin really help you in a fight in terms of taking a punch.
love your content shaun
+Alzatraz the demon lord Thanks man!
great video shane
+Diego Barrera Thanks Diego!
currently financially unstable but it will change soon. cant wait to subscribe to MyFightGym :) learned a lot from you and i always enjoy incorporating my style into the techniques learned here
+Isaiah Wright You're going to love it, Isaiah!
Any advice in how to fight against someone who use this strategy?
Is there a video where Shane tells his weight and height? Really curious. Tnx a lot for the videos, really helps me as a begginer.
You can watch fights online on ScreenVariety website, it's the best option this year
Pro tip to fight like Floyd. Do not forget the clinch!
+trenton downe and have an IV at the ready before fight night.
+trenton downe Pro tip to fight like Conor. Do not forget the tap!
+trenton downe Yeah and collect 300 million in 36 minutes.........something you haters can't do. #TBE #49-0 #TMT
+trenton downe You forgot the "collecting that 300 million dollars while his haters bathe in salt water tears, a 10-2 ass whooping, phantom shoulder injuries and pathetic religious excuses".
YGHD lol he lost to castilo kid
Shane you should make more videos on ground work, I know it's not your specialty but still
But, you have to step back because when you comeback to the normal possition, you could get a shot to the head or in the abs. Sorry about my English, I am just start to study the language a year ago. I am Mexican xD
shane can u make a video on how to recover from a knockout?
i saw a video where a guy said its not good to lean back when doing the shoulder roll
Good videos keep up the good work one day ill probably buy one of your classes but for now ima keep learning kung fu
+Jacob Solache Thanks Jacob! Do your thing man, MyFightGym.com isn't going anywhere ;)
I would like to know how to crack the Philly shell defense
Man you forgot one major tip............. to collect 300 million in 36 minutes whiles staying undefeated. Something these haters can't do. #49-0 #TBE #TMT
Hey Shane, do you think you can do some videos talking some tips for southpaws?
+ProScourge Don't forget that southpaws and orthodox fighters are mirrored. Everything is the same, just reversed left and right. But yes, I can make a video specifically on this!
alright, thanks man, your awesome
nice. i have practice in an hour. gonna try
Thank-you shane for this video👊👊
+Xavier King You got it!
it's kinda hard to use against a full Aggressive MMA fighter. I can catch some slipping but it's hard u need to time it and make sure you fast asf. because leg kicks can destroy your stand
shane can you explain the system of fighting what fighting is ? and what is importent to now for a fight or a sparring
good video :)
hitting and not getting hit
+festerson obasohan thx :)
I'm doing some boxing atm very helpfull
+Kelvyn Palin Great to hear!
+fightTIPS Project under dogs season 2?
Wow you recorded someone recording while recording what they where recording at the same time.
u fucked my brain.
Go to an actual boxing gym to learn it. It's ok. This guy watched some tutorials lmao.
free my man's Jonny bones jones
yea man hes innocent
+herb mcgruff um
free my man jonny bones jones one more time
could yo do a video on Jiu Jitsu submissions, and some drills I can do without a partner?
thanks for upload
gonna try this, lol. the best offense is defense.
Shane hav u ever done any bjj
Can you do a video about concussions?
hey that's the technique i'm using ! now i know where it's from
Hey Shane can u make sure everyone knows that they can't win any fight with anger because there thinking what there gonna do and not what there opponent is gonna do.
Since when did Theon Greyjoy know how to box?
Shane when do you think i should use and train with the philly shell stance, my boxing coach is quite against it since we are not as experienced
Take your coach down than ground and pound him using the shell stance
Can you do fight likes Demetrious Johnson???
+jack Carpenter Noted, brotha!
+fightTIPS thanks!!!
Did he say..DANGER ZONE!?!
shane where is your fighting gym at?
online
shane how to counter a kimura lock
What song is that playing in the background? PLease
Useful videos :D ake a video about self deence against hair pulling please since you have long hair also and many of us viewers male and female have too :)
Guys generally don't have long hair and we don't pull hair like wusses. Although hair pulling is a problem mainly for girls.
Is a bar/ choke good and useful in a street fight
+Tom James bar/choke?
+fightTIPS submission in a street fight ?
what if he walk forward while punching and I'm leaning back?
Hey Shane How do you get your photo on your RUclips account?
Shane how do you count macros
Justin gatheji coach😊
Most of the best fighter I know r always those stick thin guys
*Like James Toney.
gud video shanewhere did u filmed it
+Shubham Mishra Thank you! I did film it, yes.
+fightTIPS think he meant where did you film it
i shoulder rolled a leg kick and a takedown 😄😄
its dangerous as fuck
foot work still the Best defense
+K.O MASTER /Conor will Change nate bum life -- Fighting in general is dangerous! But if you master it/it works for you (like it did for Floyd, James Toney, etc.), then it can dismantle your opponents. Footwork is whole different story, haha!
+fightTIPS yes ur right
but only really great fighter can Do stuff like this
+fightTIPS Project under dogs season 2?
+César Alves I wish man! Unfortunately I don't think people enjoyed it that much.
***** Come on man! It was totally awesome! At leat I loved it. And I ended up subscribing to all the chanels that cooperated
Just use a peek-a-boo to break the shell. Its wrong to try to hit the head ..its well protected. Go on the inside and hit the body..the head will fall.
savcob an experienced philly shell user can block the body with the left hand easily
*****
I agree..but you still score on points.. :-) not to mention that a hard left hooks to body and arm might get some damage.. The combo: left jab-right jab-slant to right with left home run hook- side step to the right and start delivering the hooks.
Hi Shane, I'm a 16 year old who does boxing training twice a week, but it is a busy place and so I don't get a lot of the help I would like from the trainers. Do you have any drills (particularly footwork and punching drills) that I could maybe practice at home? I would really appreciate that. Also, I have a friend who does MMA in his spare time and I have a lot of friends who say that boxing is for "pussies," and I would kind of like to prove them wrong, so my friend and I agreed to have a "friendly" MMA contest. Do you think that a boxer would stand any chance against an MMA fighter, or would an MMA beat the hell out of a boxer every time? I feel as though an MMA fighter would have a much greater chance of winning, but would a boxer like myself still have any chance at all, even if it is only slight? I would really appreciate your insight and opinion. Also, do you have any exercises / drills that could improve a fighter's "chin." Would really appreciate that. Cheers bud.
you have a chance but it is low since your arsenal is limited. unless the friendly contest is a stand up match
shane*
thanks to you man i am dodging better and more confident going into a fight
Dude, that shell is nothing like Floyds. Floyds shell only looks easy because he makes it look easy to where as (like this guy) it looks as if anyone can do it, when in reality it's a tricky style to do. It only looks easy when Floyd does it because of his sense of timing, range and the way he's able to adapt to his opponent to the point where it's like he can feel when and where his opponent is going to punch. It's not as simple as the instructor makes it out to be. If he were to try his philosophy against a pressure fighting boxer his philosophy will change dramatically.
+SunPacBrolyGo KuZu it is a tricky style but it can be learned. problem is 1) not many teach it, and 2) some fighters over rely on it
Orthodox Stances: I'm going to roll with the right-hand, counter with a lead right, then pivot out.
Great !!!
this one of the reasons why i like mayweather just watching him perfect this skill... but around his last fights you can tell that he was slowing down and getting hit a lot. Im guessing thats a big reason why he retired. i looked back at it and i watched Maidana vs Floyd 1 and Floyd was getting beat on the ropes.... from that fight on he never wanted to be against the ropes, or thats what it seemed like
+Tony Garcia For sure, we saw his style change a lot. Floyd's a smart fighter, you gotta give him that.
***** yup he is one of my favorite boxers thats for sure
Philly shell and shoulder roll ARE NOT the same!
Not
shout out to coach Charlie on the floor
Why is that other dude recording vertically??
+Quaron Jones There's gold being shared here, focus! Haha!
Hi Shane!
+Jacob Belanio Productions Hi Jacob!
located?
Sorry Shane that's not how it's done
Shane why are boxers short
Because sometimes i see alot of boxers and they look short
Basically how to Floyd Mayweather
Notification squad
+Jacob Belanio Productions Boom
he's wrong because Rodger may weather told me that you don't move your hips all your moving is your shoulder
@fight tips
my coach is sitting on the floor
his gonna get knocked out learning from him 😂😂😂😂
Shane where are you from?
+Antti Marjapuu Philly
+Antti Marjapuu Northeast Philly, living in Southern California now.
WOW
i feel like mayweathers defense is a variation of the philly shell. if you watch you dad explain it youll see what i mean
it is the philly shell or some call it the mayweather but your right it is a variation of it just suited to his liking
Can this be used in muay thai?
That move can be used in Muay Thai. I remember being taught that when I used to do Muay Thai.
Not sure, if he knows you're goin to do it he can just fake it and do a left kick. You'll just fall into the kick I think.
You'll leave yourself open to big kicks.
i need to take a really hot shit i ate some chipotle today
thats not how to shoulder roll
Where is MJ?
umm this was kind of a subpar demo
that intro musics gotta go
fazbo
Ah Floyd Mayweather's?
This only applies to boxing, not MMA or self defense. Mayweather is just good at blocking and absorbing those gloves, that's the illusion to his greatness. Rigondeaux has a far superior defense and footwork than Floyd.
Don't know about that one lol
But this thing only works in boxing. In mma or muay thai they would just kick you instead when you try to dodge it. And just by looking at this video you aint gonna be good at dodging this way, you need practice. I really like your vids they do help a lot but i dont like this move becasue it only work in boxing.
+one random person Gotta disagree with ya, brotha. Just wrote an article about that: www.fighttips.com/?p=1437
West Sayi disagree I use it in mma , it's hard tho because u have to fast and you really good in countering. But there are slot of MMA Fighters who use this style
kid
not explained effectively, we need to see Prince Naseem Hamed style... pleaseeeee
+NolA BigFan What are you having trouble understanding? Hopefully I can help!
***** appreciate your response, we want you to break down his style, he doesn't protect his face but never got knocked out, we want to know how he moves, how he leans back, and the reason of his HIGH knock out ration.. and why he is the hardest featherwight puncher in boxing history.. try your best cuz no one really is breaking this legend's style down clearly and scientifically.. if you could.. thanks
specially the weird angles that he throws punches from.. thanks
+NolA BigFan Well now you're talking about the good stuff, haha. We go more in depth with the advanced breakdowns on MyFightGym.com -- you should come check us out!