Jordan Peterson Is Right About The Church
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2022
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He’s almost there , pray for Jordan please.
It may seem that way, but almost there is unbelief just the same. In fact, to gain such a vast knowledge of Scripture as Jordan has, while rejecting the Savior in his death for sins and resurrection, is more dangerous than not knowing the truth at all.
@@davidrobinson5180 I agree. You can see his zeal for religious dialogue not just with his videos regarding Jesus, he has a similar temperament when speaking to Muslim, Jewish and Buddhist guests. I just see a man after knowledge and understanding, not after Jesus. I do give merit to his open mindedness and willingness to speak up though.
@@davidrobinson5180 what a true statement. I appreciate Jordan Peterson's knowledge. I have benefitted from hearing his words. However, he knows the truth and rejects it. We must bow now or bow when we die.
Yes, and we must pray regardless for his salvation for it is the Father's will.
I was thinking about that the other day, and he seems like a man who searches, so I would be compelled to pray for him regardless.
And we wonder why 80% of young people fall away when they get to college and face their atheist professors. We have prepared them with . . . peanut butter in armpits?
And scientifically-illiterate Ken Ham propaganda tracks.
As I mentioned in another comment, I have been an Evangelical pastor for over 40 years in three mega-churches. I have constantly reiterated that when high school students reach their junior year they need (and want) solid teaching and intelligent answers to questions about Christianity. If we don't challenge them, we lose them.
We need to be more objective about our faith and speak of it honestly as long as we idolize the Bible over the truth, we will continue to loose people.
@@markcrayton8151 John wasn’t talking about the Bible when he was talking about The Word.
Forget college I was atheist agnostic by around 13/14 years old. We have the internet and access to information which means people can't be blinding indoctrinated into religion as easily.
My youth group was also silly. I never thought much of it until we got a new youth pastor one year who sat us down and played us clips of the suffering of Christians he had seen during his missions around the world. The violence, the hunger, the sickness, the hatred. It was horrifying. But he also showed us the tremendous faith and community of these suffering people. He ended this sit down by saying that this world is not a game, it’s a battleground against the forces of evil and telling us to act like it. To grow up, because if we didn’t, we would be ripe fruit for Lucifer. A very chilling, yet empowering talk.
And what did my church do? They disciplined him for, “scaring the children.” We weren’t children, we were young adults, and we heard what we needed to hear.
Back in my youth ministry days I countered the "You're scaring the children" notion with, "People this age fought in the Civil War!"
@@charlesloftis2920 I have a school book from 1846 used at a Scottish highschool. 5-13 year olds. It puts university texts to shame. A boy of 16 then could be a shipsmate and trusted to Dead Reckoning. Safely read charts calculating safe passage for what today compares to super tankers of wealth.
We have increased childhood to destroy ...
See, we had the fun silly games at the beginning then a hard hitting sermon after. So, I see where this video is coming from
@@parrotshootist3004 I’ve also thought about how modernity has prolonged childhood. In Roman times, a 15 year old could be an officer in the military and lead grown men into battle. And they often did.
In fact, the average age of the Roman Empire was 28. One of the great powers of history and it was basically run by what we modern folk would consider to just be adolescents.
Not to mention Alexander the Great, who was conquering most of Asia only in his mid to late 20s.
I love this! This shall be my new approach. Thank you for the clarity.
"If you have to give a carnival to get people to come to church, then you will have to keep giving carnivals to keep them coming back." - Spurgeon
a youth pastor once told me, "we just need to do anything we can to keep them in church.(entertain them) this was his response when I asked him why arent they talking to the teens about sin. ugh
That youth ‘pastor’ was a false convert.
No truly saved by the atoning death of Christ & heart changed by the indwelling Holy Spirit person would ever make any excuse for sin. The Bible is very clear - a changed heart reveals itself in a holy life.
Also - Biblical teaching makes no allowance for ‘youth Pastor’.
It is a carnal invention of man.
So called YP’s are normally much younger than the biblical model which is 40 as in Paul to Timothy & 40 is considered to be the absolute minimum age for life experience with people & maturity in Christ, as Paul the Apostle states also, do not allow an immature man into leadership.
YP’s are generally found in Pentecostal assemblies which themselves have not understood biblical teaching & the majority if not all in the assembly are not living holy lives.
This attitude "no matter what we teach - or don't teach - it's better to have people in church than not" is widespread. It is utter nonsense. My former pastor once said, "many people sitting in church pews have gotten just enough of a dose of Christianity to immunize them against the real thing". He was right. Jesus isn't looking for "homies" or admirers; he's looking for followers.
It sounds strange, but I actually would be MORE interested in going to church if the church took salvation, sin, and God/Jesus more seriously and strictly. The way churches act lately, it’s almost like they don’t believe in God!
And if a church is acting like they don’t really believe in God, how is that going to motivate kids to really repent and believe and change their life? If the church just acts like it’s a social event, kids are going to treat it like that
@@charlesg7926
Completely agree.
Been attending & supporting many many churches in all my 27 years of conversion including some that state they are Baptist Reformed & yet do not follow the practices of such reformers as the Puritan Fathers & such as those who engaged in constant adult Gospel witness George Whitefield John Bunyan & Charles Haddon Spurgeon.
Pastors & elders in so called churches today engage in zero evangelism.
Even though they attend churches that have the historical pattern of adult Gospel witness.
One wonders whether they have understood the clear counsel & example of The Lord Jesus Christ - coupled with as CH Spurgeon said & wrote multiple times in his work Soul Winner, if you have no passion for the lost, be sure, you are yourself a lost sinner.
I hated youth group. It was exactly like depicted here. My parents forced me to go, so I did. For six years. But I absolutely hated it. I wanted difficult discussions and truth-seeking. Not running around whacking people with pool noodles. I wanted to be treated like an adult, not like a 4 year old.
Probably just your youth group dude
I agree. I became a Christian as a young adult, but I had went to several "youth group" social events in my school years when friend would insist/invite. Then as a young mother I volunteered at local churches and by the time my oldest kid was 7 I said "It's better for my kids to grow up un-churched than to believe that This is God's Church". Youth groups were not moral places, nor did it seem like they were striving to be. They were cheap food, poor supervision, and cheap entertainment for kids that made free childcare options for parents. A little bit of a cheesy sermon, and some 1st graders worksheet was as intense as it got. They wanted to keep numbers of attendees high to keep their salary as youth misters. If you really disciple people then you'll have less people and your job will be a volunteer/unpaid position.
Good to hear. My husband ran a youth group for awhile. He said he felt motivated to preach to them. Occasionally they would go camping or have a games night (once every 6 months). His reasoning : time is short and precious. These kids may only get 100 hours a year from me and it ought to be used wisely.
YES! I felt the same way. Its why I dont want my kids going to youth groups and have a hard time recommending church to new believers...
Sad things is that most of the “youth” this is what they want to have “fun” me and my wife are youth pastors and every time we are doing something “fun” everyone shows up, even the parents hahaha, but as soon as we do something bible centered and in depth studies and hard topics, no body comes… hahahaa by the way we are not focusing in making a “fun” youth group but a Jesus centered, at the cross group! 🤟🏻
I am a pastor in a Protestant church. I was told to be seeker sensitive, meet felt needs, and preach sermons on how to build the church organization. I said no. All I do is preach the Word of God (the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament) and pray, and while we have very few young people, because we are not hip enough for their parents, our congregation is spiritually sound on the fundamentals of saving faith. Apart from the Word of God, the false beliefs of man lead to death.
Keep it up, Pastor John. My church is a Jesus centered teaching church. We have a lot of young people who attend, no doubt because their parents care about the gospel of Jesus Christ and not about being entertained.
PRAISE GOD!!!! There are times when we need to say "no" and it's not just about drugs, is it? No to false teaching. No to "circus" churches. (or for that matter, when a doctor suggests an abortion, rather than losing the baby, LOSE THE DOCTOR!) Don't worry about the numbers. You are going in the right direction. I know many people, including myself (not able to get to your specific church) who would LOVE to find a church like yours. Make sure you're findable online as most people look there first for jobs, and most likely for churches as well.
Keep at it!! I was at a church for years that started going towards "seeker-friendly" and watering down the Gospel. :-(
Nice
It's good to note that the mass of early followers of Jesus lost interest when the food stopped; but the 12 went on (in the power of the Spirit) to change the world! Each young soul nurtured in the faith is like lighting a fuse on a pack of dynamite. Each young soul degraded by inane entertainment is like dung flushed down the can.
I became a christian when i was 20. this is the first thing noticed when attending church. Everything was about games and entertainment with little depth to Christian living and holiness. Especially when returning from a mission trip in early 90;s to Cuba. the church service there was different and would go on for hours, people praying incessantly and worshiping diligently. Pastor Hector in Varedero was an inspiration as were the poor but godly Christians!
Try going to a Latin mass
@@michaelibach9063 Orthodoxy bro Eastern Catholic and Copts the OGs of Christendom!.
@@revanvonheaven8270 I have my dislikes with the catholics, they have a history of popes changing the word of God and shoving their own narratives into it. They also have a big reputation when it comes to how many priests associated with their denomination have been found to be pedophiles, and sexual predators. Most of all however is the catholics are hypocrites and only teach people to fear God, but they neglect the love aspect almost completely.
@@michaelibach9063 haha i've been invited to catholic men's group where the offer free beer!!
@@revanvonheaven8270 they are so OG they did no evangelization. It would take me an hour to get to a Greek Orthodox Church and when I get there it’s a renovated Protestant church that’s had two priests in it entire history.
The only reason orthodox priests went anywhere, is because orthodox laity went first. So don’t talk to me about orthodoxy being the OGs of Christianity. The world doesn’t know what a metropolitan is but they know who the pope and cardinals are.
I’m Catholic, the youthgroup at my church wasn’t anything special and sometimes I felt like it was sub par. But then I heard about some of these Protestant youthgroups… oh man do I feel blessed now
Catholic Church 🤦🏻♂️
@@durango8882 What’s so wrong about the Catholic Church? I’m merely expressing gratitude that my youth group was based around the Bible and God’s teachings and that we never did any of those “gross out games” that were mentioned in the video
@@durango8882 Remember that part in the book of Matthew when Jesus said to Simon-Peter "You are Peter, and on this Bible, I will build my Church", then St. Peter asked "what's a Bible?"
Matthew 16:17-19
Peter
masc. proper name, 12c., from Old English Petrus (genitive Pet(e)res, dative Pet(e)re), from Latin Petrus, from Greek Petros, literally "stone, rock"
The Catholic Church is the only Church on earth, authorized by Christ to assemble inspired scriptures, as well as interpret said scriptures with legitimacy.
@@GiarcraiGO Stop praying to idols and maybe people will take the catholic church more seriously.
@@GiarcraiGO- No. But, as a former Catholic.... I know where you're coming from. Try reading the Bible for yourself sometime... it will change your life. The first thing it will do is disabuse you of the notion that you expressed about Matthew 16:17.
Rarely stepped in and out of nondenominational churches for a decade. If not for God giving me such a strong love for Jesus, I would have stopped going to church altogether. Started going to a Baptist church at the beginning of this year, and after the first service I was nearly in tears. I took my wife, and she got saved a month later. Been going every Sunday and Wednesday since. They have small group classes before the Sunday service, which are wonderful, and it's been a tremendous joy learning all the old hymns (such a breath of fresh after being peppered with all of the repetitive CCM). Now I know what a spirit-filled church looks like, and what to look for if my wife and I ever move, and we need to find a new church.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
(Such visible fruits coupled with lots of prayer, constant and clear preaching on the gospel, and a passion to fulfill the Great Commission - those are the churches we should be attending, and guiding others towards.)
Amen!
Please look for a Reformed Baptist church in the area that you are moving to. I believe there is a website called Nine Marks that helps in Church finding.
Don’t be swayed by the baptist church, it’s not Gods Church.
@@michaelibach9063 how so and what is Gods Church?
@@kelslo74 try picking one that’s actually been around for 2000 years and not one less than 500 years old, but likes to pretend like it was around 2000 years.
It’s heartening to see all the comments in support. Thank you Todd Friel for making the decision to open them up.
I'm a new believer and this video is spot on. Thank you!
Greetings, brother in Christ. Were you an atheist?
@@vivliforia2262 Indeed, I was.
Greetings. And welcome. Remember, the truest faith is the one that challenges you to greater heights for God and higher standards for yourself.
In essence, it preaches "take up your cross and follow Jesus," which is a tough life actually.
About 10-12 years ago I read a book, "Why Men Hate Going to Church." Ever since the feminist movement took over the church, men have been feminized. The songs are feminized. What ever happened to songs like, "A MIghty Fortress is Our God," "Onward Christian Soldiers?" (Oops, sorry, you can't sing about war in a church! Satan loves it when we downplay that we ARE in a war, a spiritual life-or-death war.) The book mentioned the popularity of the Promised Keepers because it emphasized masculinity. 50,000 men in a church service together! The "Top Gun" movies are popular because they are not afraid to promote a man being macho. I am blessed because the church I go to has a Tuesday night MEN's Bible with over 350 MEN present. And we are taught to be real men. This is, I think, the third video I have seen by Todd Friel showing what is going on in our churches today. Keep it up, Todd!
I loved that book "Why Men Hate Going to Church", so much so that I have 3 copies in my house and gave a copy to my pastor. I've read a lot of books in my lifetime and that one is in the top 3.
Did youth ministry for almost two decades. Shifted to a more biblical approach of challenging young men and women to the high standard that our Savior has for those who are willing to surrender their lives to Him. This approach did get me fired once, but it has been worth it. Trying to approach the overall church the same way as a pastor, praying the Father turns us around.
To be fair, this is a societal problem, not just a church problem.
It’s a societal problem because it’s a church problem. Our institutions have rotted because the underlying materials that serve as the basis for our legal and social system has been left to the liberals and ideologues. Western society has forsaken the root that upheld and raised it.
Yes and dealing with this begins first at home and the church.
No excuse and not our problem; we are supposed to be in the world but not of the world; too many churches bring the worldly things into the church to increase revenue and census.
This society was built by Protestants
@@michaelibach9063 spot on
Dr. Jordan Peterson is a national treasure - Canadian - he has spoken up when the church has remained silent and he has taken on the world, quite literally - there is more common sense in that man than I see in most 'ministers' - He's most certainly on a journey to God - he's a man who is not only faithful to his wife but she is his best friend - he is a man of integrity and honesty - I, as a woman have come to love this man and there are countless thousands of women who are grateful to him for showing us that we deserve 'men', not boys as husbands, as leaders and friends -he has called 'men' to step up when the church is making excuses for them - thank God for this man~
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A UN treasure of human rights.
Sadly he is more helpful than most of the big name local GTA "pastors" like Paul Martin, Robbie Symons and Bruxy.
@@diefenbakersown try reading books written by Catholic Saints instead of going to some “pastor”.
Your “pastors” aren’t what you think they are.
Most Modern women don’t deserve men. God works from the bottom up. When women deserve men, God provides men and leaders. Women don’t want to be women anymore, they want to be men.
Virtue and character are not popular in churches today. It's not just young men who are being treated like children in our churches. Adult men are not being challenged and discipled to be mature followers of Christ. As long as they follow along with their wives and do their "ministries", i.e., ushering and parking lot duty, then it's fine with most pastors. They are afraid of men actually growing up or challenging them ( the pastors ) intellectually. Men in churches are expected to know their place, which isn't being men at all. Jordan Peterson is absolutely right on, but his message will fall on the deaf ears of most so-called "evangelical" pastors and elders. That's how we got where we are.
Ditto.
Someone needs to hear this Oh Lord! God almighty! I magnify your name! Yaweh I give you all the glory for my life! Forgive my sins and my un confessed sins Lord! Lord I want more of you and less of me! I thank you for your protection! I am truly blessed and highly favored I sit in heavenly places and I am the son of a mighty King!!! I love you Jesus! This is such a great song. I feel so much of the holyspirit in me. God has been so good and I have never had to hold my knowledge back as I always want to impact people and make them rich as I am. I have had lots of my fellow brother and sisters who reach out to me via email and I don’t heststate to help. If you are willing to do the lords work that is a good thing. I have some of my clients who own orphanage homes and charity organisation. I am so delight that there are good people in the world who want to use money for Gods work. Remain blessed everyone. No matter what you go through God loves you...
We got out of a nondenominational church earlier this year. They did some crazy things in their youth group. My children were very aware and told us about it. We are now in a Baptist church, getting sound doctrine and no foolishness in their group now.
Baptist doctrine isn’t sound doctrine
@@michaelibach9063 Depends on which Baptist church, I've been to two in the same city which are like night and day.
@Days of Noah The fact that so many Baptists believe Miracles stopped ( Cessationism ) is arguably the worst Heresy The Baptist Church has, but there is a whole plethora of other false doctrines present in The Baptist Church.
What year was the Baptist church founded and by whom?
How were people saved if there was no Bible till the 4th Century?
Did Jesus or His Disciples practice sola scriptura?
I couldn't get any good answers to these and other questions so I left the Evangelical community.
Ave Maria!
@@sproutfire8878 1. It was founded by Christ in the same year He mentioned these words: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it." (Matt 16:18).
2. By grace, through faith. Not of works, so that no one could boast (Eph 2:8-9). Pieces of Scripture were already in existence even before the 4th century AD. The Old Testament is in wide circulation, and the books of the New Testament is already circulating among the early churches.
3. Of course they did. Jesus came to fulfil law on our behalf, so that those who places faith in Him will be counted righteous (Matt 5:17-18; Rom 10:4). Through Christ, the disciples understood the fulfilment of Old Testament scripture, and recognized the inspiration of Old Testament and contemporary writings of fellow apostles (2Tim 3:16-17; 2Pet 1:19-21; 3:14-16)
"Let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:10-12)
Catholic here, speaking to all my Christian brothers and sisters. Let's get ourselves back on track, all of us. We all have issues that need improving, and we need to get on it. We have run out of time for goofing around. We need to stop trying to follow pop culture. Our way is the eternal, the ultimate, the sacred, the profound, the beautiful, the divine. People have the deepest of longings for this. Wacky games and gimmicky entertainment is everywhere. It's cheap, and it is junk food for the soul. The hour has come to quit goofing off and being cowardly. The greatest adventure awaits us.
Catholic? opinion discarded
@@gravysmackers6994 Sad dude. Get over your bigotry and see that the Original Christian Church has everything to offer.
Least ecumenist Catholic
As a catholic youth who is still learning everyday day about my faith.. Love the faith 🔥.. Before talking anything against it.. First should do some research about it
@@ldoe8731 it's never going to stop any way.. I was studying apogeletics.. That is how to defend the faith.. I have seen how they try to spoil our faith at times i try to get pissed off
Treat young men like young men.
Well said
A recent church I visited had a guest speaker. He testified that his step father treated him so bad and that he held resentment towards him for years. I was thinking to myself the whole time "white man bad! I get it but, where was your mother during all this terrible abuse? And why does she get a pass?" My point is that it is culturally acceptable to bash men. When a woman leaves her husband, all she has to say is that he was abusive and the church dumps the man like a ton of bricks. Another reason why men young and old are leaving the church.
This
exactly , and the divorce laws. Men young and old are saying too high of a risk to get married.
So happy to finally see people calling this out. I’ve gotten discouraged by my church for calling out how youth group is all games and little to no teaching of scripture. This ought not to be!
Quite honestly, at this point, no Christian should send their children to youth group. The drivel and downright heresy is mind numbing
@@jcpg9592 it’s an a front to God. We treat them like they’re losers or something with half of these games, making fun of them and have 35m of a scripture read and wonder why they “fall away from the church” I agree 100%
I am so happy that my youth group actually taught Scripture. I never knew how few actually do.
I grew up with an amazing youth group and church that taught the bread and butter of Scripture. Sermons actually taught something new every week, youth group had fun games but also got serious when it was time for Bible study and worship. Seeing how so many churches have sunk so low it it makes me sad. I also pity them since Scripture has some severe warnings for false teachers and those that lead the body of Christ astray 😓
Imagine if every church just started talking straight from the Scriptures and about Hell. Let alone sin.
As someone who worked for over 9 years in a Baptist Megachurch I couldn't agree more. Thank you so much for this message. Subbed
He doesn't attract just young male followers. I'm a single, white 45 yr female and I have greatly appreciated his insights too. He gets it right a lot of the time. Thanks for your video, love your content!!!
failed young women too. My son who is 36 is having trouble finding a godly Christian woman who isn't full of drama.
@Theresa Grims-GOD has the right woman for your son. Your son might try fasting and prayer 🙏 if he TRULLY wants a wife.
✝️God knows us individually, and HE will instill HIS WILL + CALL teaching us what HIS PLAN is for our life.
I found one. I'm unbelievably lucky.
Preach! The data and statistics are in. More and more men are leaving church communities because the women are embracing womanist feminist world views. Leadership let's this go uncontested for the benefits of financial offerings/larger crowds. The head of the woman is the man. The woman is the glory of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
@@keepthechange2811 Praise God
They don’t exist.
God nowhere in the Bible promised a husband or a wife, in fact Paul who wrote 80% of the New Testament, stated at least twice that it’s better for man not to marry, as marriage takes one’s focus away from Christ.
I stopped seeking a wife 19 years ago, & iv known The Lord 27 years.
Western women in churches are mainly tares, they have wicked selfish carnal temporal agendas.
Not for me.
First video of yours that I liked in a long time.
So sad!! when we invite the young men and women back, before anything else is said, the youth pastors should apologize to them for not teaching them Godly principles or discipling them.
Oh! Reactions turned on now! I've grown accustomed not commenting on my fellow freakishly tall wise brother in Christ but it's nice to have people join into these discussions on all matters faith and culture
lol yeah i seriously was going to scroll right (to the next video) but instead scrolled down... and lo and behold! Comments!
This might be one of the best videos I've ever watched. Thank you
Nailed it! Thanks brother Todd.
When the church elders asked me to be a youth leader I asked if they wanted me to entertain the youth or teach them, because if they wanted an entertainer I wasn’t interested. I became a youth leader and we preached the gospel from an open Bible and sang hymns, the youth loved it. Our youth group grew, even attracting youth from other churches. It was actually the parents that took issue with what we were doing, not the youth. Ended up leaving that church.
Remarkable commentary by Peterson. One criticism if I may Mr. Friel: you say at 0:35 that the evangelical church has been calling “your people “ down. That is incorrect. The Evangelical church has been calling berating, insulting, rejecting, and effeminasing young MEN while glorifying and worshipping young women. This was exactly Peterson’s point. The Evangelical church has spent the better part of 30 years treating young men like second class citizens.
Raise women up by tearing men down.
I don’t know if you’ve seen Todd’s other videos, but he regularly speaks of single Christians as inferior, and he never talks about the benefits of singleness. Single women often hear in sermons that being a mother is a woman’s highest calling.
@@vanessaloy1049 in Catholicism marriage is good and singleness is good
@@vanessaloy1049 It is!
@@dred8616 How does that help single women?
Todd Friel, thanks so much for this very important video .
Many need to hear this.
A leader in my Church once stated that the Church's mission with youth is not to compete with Disneyland.
Agree, even in the Philippines most evangelicals focus on entertainment and keeping the youth in the church instead of teaching sin and being born again
CATHOLICISM
@@michaelibach9063 NOUN PHRASE
Thank you, Todd.
Good take Todd, alot of your other videos have become like metal grinding against metal to me, but this is a good take. My Methodist church that I grew up in used to have youth group like what you showed above, and I bet it still isn’t much different, but it prompted me to go to the non denominational church across town for a more serious minded, faithful, youth group that gives the room and resources to grow and puts some reading and thinking responsibility on us. It was very beneficial and helped me become much closer to God, taking the cross and the scriptures seriously and not lightheartedly.
Hate to tell you this but it is feminism that destroyed humanity in the garden, and is doing it now.
You sound like Adam in the garden. It was not just feminism
uh , no one cares about feminist,
just saying. don't say devil worshippers care about feminist they don't count.
Yes, I agree with you. There was feminism in the Garden, but Adam's transgression was that he went along with Eve. She wanted to raise herself above Adam, and he allowed it. That is what is going on today. The body wants to be over the head, and men are allowing it. Men and women clearly have different roles, but one can not live without the other. If you cut off the head or the body, both perish.
@@MoonMoon-fx1op yep. Men are following, just like in the garden, like you.
Thanks , and NEVER EVER VOTE DEMOCRAT!
Thank you for adding comments.
Spot on. In full support of this timely message. Standing up , integrity, helping others in need in Christ. Connecting in love faith and teaching the Word whether as men or women. That's what we all need to do. x
Except that if you allow or encourage women to "teach the Word" the men get the signal that it's okay for them not to step up and be leaders. We need men to be affirmed in their masculinity, Biblical, and responsible to LEAD. Don't water down the importance of that. Feminism has stomped on the men in our societies far too long. And just "hitting back" only gets men in trouble. No, step up, men, be who God made you to be: leaders. Serious ones. Sanctified ones.
I have been saying things like this since I was fourteen, except I did not realize the effect it would have on young men, specifically. I hated youth group because it felt degrading. From the teen boys who dressed as girls for games to the adult diaper a teen boy wore to a costume party, all being praised by our youth pastors in our (dying) church. Glad to hear this from more influential people.
Yes, I was embarrassed by our Adult Sunday School teacher just 2 Sundays ago. We had 3 visitors in our class and the teacher blurts out in the middle of his lesson that he sometimes dresses up as a woman for Halloween. Ugh. For one, that is wrong. The Bible says not to dress up with clothes of the opposite sex. And secondly, to say such a thing on a day when visitors were there in the class. He was trying to be funny and make like our church was fun and entertaining place.
Wat. WAT.
Yikes, that is going on in youth groups in progressive churches now?
@@saintejeannedarc9460 my church was not progressive and they allowed these things to go on. If our church had had enough life to continue a couple more generations, it would have become woke.
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
(2 Chronicles 7: 14)
You, brother, have hit the nail on the head. Thank you. God help us.
The food fights used to get me, as I waited for my husband to become a believer. It was “unbelievable”!
As a Catholic, the way many Protestants see these secular looking, almost non Christian, church services is the same way we see almost all Protestant services haha.
100 percent, Brother!
A self-aware external critique of the church - quite refreshing given the diet we normally get
This is so good! Right on target!
God is definitely calling him to repentance. Hopefully he answers and doesn't complicate God's message with worldly philosophies, like what Stephen Hawking did.
God should deliver a clearer and more precise message to his creation so everyone can be with him but he probably doesn't know how
Jordan Peterson is not preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ- that should be the job of the church - he is an educator ~
@@sick_ibg712 How do you assess that probability? Cheers! :)
@@zapazap I'm guessing you're talking about prayer but how would I know Im praying to the right God?
@@sick_ibg712 I'm not talking about prayer. Cheers! :)
I went to church for the first time in a long time last sunday and left shortly after the pastor interrupted his sermon with a video on their youth mission trip (which resembled some of the clips shown here). I get it, they're kids and you need to keep them entertained, but at what point does entertainment begin to hinder the whole point of what a church is supposed to be? So much of the common western church seems artificial and cookiecutter.
Glad you left when that pastor showed that video, hopefully others saw you and left too.
It took me 4 years (my town boasts 30 churches) to find a Bible preaching church, who also preaches from the whole word of God. As long as you get that much at the top, the rest is better. Praying that you will find a good one.
I went to a youth group like that. It grieves me.
From Ireland. Great podcast
Most importantly, It's about God, loving God, being a doer of God's truth, proclaiming God's truth, glorifying God
Have you come to the part that God will make parents eat the flesh of their children. So that the world will know Him.
Yes. Not hearing much about the Gospel here. And Peterson is not a believer, so this is all kind of strange.
@@gojohnnygo3209 Have you come to the part where God says to repent or perish ?
I have four daughters here in Southern California! You can imagine the type of man my daughters meet! No sense of responsibility towards to the future! No character building habits! No career. No money in the bank. And I’m talking about men in their 30s! It is absolutely pathetic out here! That’s my daughters situation! As a mom I can’t find a church that isn’t like going to a rock concert!
Also....need to mention this...at least in CA, a male family member was asked to go through White privilege training to continue being a elder of the church. They forced the men of the church to sit in and listen to one of their fellow black church members speak about white privilege who they knew for years talk about things that were very divisive and racist towards whites. My family member left that church and went to Calvary where he just sits in the audience, and doesn't get involved beyond attending now. The former church was baptist and changed to a non-denomination church during this uprising of BLM and white privilege crap.
We can comment now? Saaweeet.
Tough talk made me a good soldier, kept me alive, and taught me the fundamentals to be successful in life. Two adult daughters following same route.
Evangelicalism went off the rails long ago. While I identify with the historic definition of Evangelical, I no longer identify with Evangelicalism. We need to return to confessional Protestantism. The church growth movement has growth buildings but not saints. As long as it continues to exist to appeal to unbelievers it will continue to profane worship, preach a confused gospel, rarely and inappropriately administer the sacraments, and ignore church discipline. As it seeks to influence and have acceptance among the culture it will increasingly mimic the culture. Frankly we need a Reformation to bring light out of darkness.
Perhaps we should have reformed the Catholic Church
Protestantism went off the rails with Martin Luther.
@@asliketheson the Catholic Church reformed without you just fine
@@michaelibach9063 Martin Luther should rightly be credited with much of the blessed movement that we rightly deem “post tenebras lux.” He was a catalyst for what had been developing for at least a century. In many ways it was the concurrent development of Gutenberg’s printing press that was used by God to free the gospel from bondage. It led to a dramatic increase in literacy rates throughout Europe and enabled the common believer to hold God’s Word in his hands. The work of Wycliffe and others in translating the Vulgate into the modern languages of Europe must be given much credit. Many do not realize that one of Luther’s most significant works was translating the Bible into German, while he was hiding from Rome’s persecution. The two centuries that followed Luther’s 95 Theses produced an amazing treasure of Reformed scholarship that has never been eclipsed. Rather than the Protestants going off the rails, they were used to put the gospel train back onto the tracks.
This , sadly, is very accurate. I remember when I was in college, I attended Intervarsity Christian Fellowship. Before the sermon would begin, we would have small activities to do or a game that everyone would participate in. One of those would be “how many marshmallows can you fit in your mouth” when people would stuff marshmallows in other peoples mouths. Do not try this, btw. Just because the Scriptures state “have child-like faith” doesn’t mean that college students should act like children.
The new editing is a great improvement over the video you took down. The graphics were timely and helpful this time. The last video's memes were often obtrusive, not matching your tone. The ones you used in this version help build your case. I also commend you for using the RC Sproul meme over the "DISGUSTING!" one.
5:20 that part creeps me out. My duty as a human being is to make my own moral judgements, and refuse to obey any claimant to authority whose demands conflict with my conscience.
Dr. Peterson has been helpful in refining my character and challenging me to assume significantly more responsibility in life. Christ should rule the nations.
Amen
Amen
@psalm2 that is a dangerous thought because everyone can say ‘the Spirit told me’. Then we have endless ‘truth’. Church tradition is a guardrail against disorder. Please note that I am an evangelical Deacon. My concern is we should watch for pride/sin in our own camp too.
You need to back up to the 1960"s if you want to understand the condition of the church today. This didn't happen last week or last month or last year. When the baby boomers experienced the "cultural" revolution" of the 60's the churches response of "we've always done it this way" and "because we say so" now shut up and get a hair cut was the beginning of the end of relevance of the church in our society. Preach Jesus. Tell the TRUTH of God's word. Love people but reject sin. Aspire to a high standard.
You'll get them back.
ha ha ha. Now the boomers are in charge and now they respond, "we've always done it this way...because we say so." Grab and guitar and get groovy and relevant like we are.
i missed the "whats wrong with you people" so much
I hope RC sproul is having a fun time up there
Ok your editor deserves a raise!
We need a Reformation Revival for the young men.
I’m a woman > as in God made me a woman. I’ve watched Peterson for years. I’ve watched him go from an atheist to doing lectures on the Bible-
He has to read it to lecture on it!!! Pray there more going on here than deeply academic lectures on the Bible.
I see his transformation too. Every word from his lips is discernment. becoming more and more accurate every day.
@@billscott2457 reading the Bible for one’s self changes many people. They realize they didn’t know what it said they knew what someone told them it says.
It’s interesting to see what is going on here. As a Christian )no denomination) I wish for him the eye opening experience that leads to the prayers that lead to salvation
@A Shot of Hennessy going to guess a dude with Hennessy as
His user name probably has little
Discernment as well. A whiskey brand user name isn’t a Christian with discernment
@A Shot of Hennessy exactly, which is why I’m Catholic. There definitely is a difference between reading and comprehension.
@@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766 Jesus’s first recorded miracle was turning water into wine, tea totaling isn’t Christian, it’s Pharisaical
Thank you. Well said.
You're spot on!!!!
It was MIA since last night. Have been looking for this.
I wish I could like this video more than just once.
Everything literally hurts so much all the time. Been following since 2009. Simply always tired and afflicted. That’s how I know I’m doing it right
I’m Eastern Orthodox. We don’t see church as entertainment. Youth in our church are our future. We teach them to love God, honour the Church, behave respectfully in the greater community to and learn to enjoy each other’s company. Young men and women are equally important to our future and the preservation of our faith.
I grew up in COGIC and I have never seen anything like this done in youth group or vacation Bible school. We learned about scripture and had prayer and testimony. If there were games they were quiz games like Jeopardy about the Bible. There was also music ministry. This is my first time hearing about all this gross out weirdness.
The protestants seeks the worldly views while Catholics seeks heavenly views.
I recently made an attempt to join a women's Bible study. I ended up giving up on it as it was more about people's feelings and building themselves up than it was about digging into the scriptures.
Thank goodness I have found some great, preachers who teach from the Bible to supplement my week days on RUclips.
I will never forget this real Christian Bible School Teacher say that she had seen a bumper sticker that read, "Christians are not perfect just forgiven". Then, she said what the sticker should had read was "Christians are not perfect, but they should strive to be" and I know I'm not perfect but I try to be the best that I can be. God Bless!
Glad his wife is Catholic and hope his children are baptised in the Church.
We, Catholics have our problems, too - Protestants: let's NOT TEAR EACH OTHER APART: We got problems to fix!
Spot on!
I frickin love this!
Kinda incredible our church caught on to this and have been doing these things Jordan is talking about, but we never needed to be told.
I volunteer as a youth small group leader for middle and high schoolers and its tough. I honestly belive my Church does a fantastic job with the ministry, but there is so much that the ministry has to accomplish. When I think about it, our youth meetings need to: invite non believers and present them the gospel, demonstrate proper docterine, worship and religious practices to young believer, preach a message, walk with the kids through life, encourage them to walk daily with Christ, and sometimes just be a legitimate safe space for a kid to hang out and destress from a legitimately stressful life. I believe we should be calling them to more, and to step into a calling, but its alot to juggle for just one day a week for 3 hours. Its mainly up to the parents to build that young discipile.
Yes. It starts at home. I think the problem is parents not discipling their children cuz they never sought to be discipled themselves
I really appreciate this response to the JP video, it's a humbling contrast to the various Muslim reaction videos to his message to the Muslims video I've seen.
No matter what denomination...you still must put faith in CHRIST
My back to my lord was by Protestant Music, but then I needed to get serious in deep, hard & real theology, so I became Catholic ....pure hard Catholic !!!
I can't be a Catholic because I don't believe in their additions like Limbo, purgatory, or the latest pope saying nobody goes to Hell. I respect the Catholic church and they do have the best churches and beautiful services but I'm also against globalist centralized institutions. The priest and nuns are better than the Protestant leadership model because they have to be devoted in a way that a person with a family can't be.
confession to a person is probably a better system but the bible clearly tells us we have no mediator between God.
Theological errors are ... problematic! But the protestant churches here or where we used to live were luke warm at best.
the old protestant music is excellent but I hate it when they have these modern bands with mediocre music that doesn't feel faith affirming.
so glad I searched Wretched Radio today
The Catholics have gone right along with ya! The real cocktail lounge feel. MADNESS...🌺☦️🌺
The protestants are missing a lot of blessings that Orthodox and Catholics have.
We must pray for unity, And pray for vocations to the priesthood!
They are too busy fighting amongst themselves, disagreeing and creating more divisions. Schism after schism.
This is why I became orthodox.
Right now youth fellowship gives me a space where I can have fun playing games and doing goofy activities with other people and really get to enjoy myself in a social setting.
I don't get to do that kind of thing outside of church and I haven't spent time with the one friend group I am part of for a while. I spend a lot of time alone in my room and can get down and depressed a lot, just doing walks and the occasional chess game and some interaction with housemates isn't cutting it.
In YF I leave having actually enjoyed myself and other people's company, like I felt after army cadets and after a mental health programme I used to go to.
Not gross out games though.
Fun definately has a place in youth stuff. We do do Bible stuff too.
Lonely youth need somewhere they can connect with people and actually enjoy themselves. Lonely young adults need that too, and as a young adult it is very difficult to find that. The church definately has a place providing that.
Im from a youth group from Brazil and I got to say that maybe this is an american problem or a problem of your local church. In my church there are sermons at saturdays only for us and we created small groups to discuss the sermons of saturday and sunday, were we discuss the bible and the sermons that have been teached. My youth group teached me how is important to christians to be together and how it is more easy when we have cristian friends to help in your daily struggles. Im a protestant for more than 10 years, but just now Im learning some aspects of my own faith that i didnt know. Im very thankfull to God for puting those people in my life. Yes, we're always hanging out and sometimes we play games, but were also always discussing the bible and also the dangers of the liberal left and how we have to open our eyes to the dangers in the world. If your local youth group is all games and fun, maybe thats a sign for you to stop complaining about your local church and in fact do something for the youngs soul and the Kingdom of God. Remember: christianity is a religion made of ACTION, do something! If you only complan and do nothing about it, mybe youre not so different from those people from the youth group that are all fun and games. Complaining isnt a christian thing. DO something for your local church, talk to your pastor, help those young people and teach them about the bible and make them see that its okay do play games and all but that christianity isnt about that... DO something.
Men are to be the spiritual leaders of the Church, with the things happening in the youth groups of today our young men are being destroyed the Church will wither and die. The Church needs to wake up and start teaching our young men to focus on the teachings of Christ. I'm not saying that you can't play games in youth group, but they should reflect the Gospel.
If I found out that any "youth pastor" had deliberately humiliated a child of mine, we would have a frank exchange of views which would end with him in considerable pain. There are far too many goddamned perverts posing as teachers, both in government schools and in churches.
We need a talk with you and Jordan, the two Intellectuals
Spot on! Well said. Young Men/Women need to build it up and edify their higher purpose, the call of Christ in their life. - Amen. Indeed! Thank you.
When Peterson went all Washer!
Not enough, Washer would be screaming mad at those pastors.