When Did The Roman Catholic Church Go Wonky?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Today, Christians understand that there are many significant doctrinal differences between Protestants and Catholics. When and where, though, did the Roman Catholic church start on the road to heresy, false teaching, and apostasy? Jump in the Delorean with Todd as we go on a history lesson through the errors, heresies, and blasphemies of the Roman Catholic Church.
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40 years Catholic, I started reading the bible and it took 7 days to leave the Catholic church. First Timothy 4:1-5 put me on a path.
As an x-catholic, my story is much the same as yours. The truth will set you free.
@@billdickerson512 You were never a Catholic.
Sorry to hear that brother. I have a bad feeling this won’t bode well at your exit interview.
Psalm 119:11, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee." When we do not know God's word, we will sin against Him more. If anyone reads the Bible it will open their eyes to the evil in the world and where it is.
@patriceagulu8315 I did!
I was raised Catholic, born in the 50's, we had a family Bible for listing the family tree but weren't aloud to read it-the priests said laymen couldn't understand it without their help. In the 70's as a teen I received apologetic training by the priest to counter what "evil history teachers" and evangelizing classmates said. God moved us to a state where the priest didn't get involved with the youth. Friends prayed for me and kept quoting Scripture. Curiosity got me (actually the Lord drew me) to the Word. I read it on my own and saw many discrepancies with Catholic teaching, God taught me His Word through my reading, His Spirit enlightening and faithful Bible teachers. Went to a Baptist church and Catholic mass for awhile. I was saved by God and His Word. I even wrote the priest and told him how he could get saved. Never heard from him. "Depend on it, if we learn anything correctly, we will have to learn it from God." Spurgeon
I went through the same thing as you did, but I was raised baptist/non-denominational, and converted to Catholicism in college. I've never been happier to depart from the apostacy of the Roman Catholic "Church".
Hallelujah! Praise the Lord for your salvation!
I knew a catholic man at work and for years would casually speak to him about the differences. He didn’t want to talk about it. He defended the church. One day at church he had a Bible in his hands and the priest chastised him. The priest told him “you don’t know what’s in that Bible, we tell you what’s in it”. He went home and started reading it. A week later he came up to me and told me what happened and that he had been mistaught for 50 years and was very mad about it. He converted to Christianity.
@@williamgullett5911 praise God!
Lying is a sin.
Sad thing is that as a kid, I couldn't see the difference between witchcraft and Catholicism. The occult was more "fun.". Jesus saved me from both years later.
To be honest, many have said that Catholicism is Paganism but it's always seemed to me to be more wiccan than that. What with the buying and grading of human remains, the delusion and coercion of seeing Christ in a piece of flat bread at the threat of excommunication and the alters and the sacrifice of Christ as a victim even though he voluntarily went to the cross with full knowledge of what He would endure negates the assertion that He was a victim entirely. It seems closer to witchcraft to me to be honest.
As per my request, my aunt sent me a book to strengthen my faith in the RCC. It took me some time as I had never read a Bible before, but as I compared the two it became obvious to me that I needed to leave the church. A few months later I came to Christ at a Billy Graham crusade! MANY years later I discovered the reformed faith and everything finally made sense.
Give my in-laws money. I’m poor but they take more than I can give because I’m a white guy
Raised in a Catholic family/home and community but praise God He pursued me and opened my eyes to find salvation in Jesus alone🙌🏻. Raising my boys in truth and starting a new legacy.
Why didn't you know Jesus as a Catholic? I'm Catholic and my love for Jesus is on fire. How much were you taught by your parents and people in your parish? Did your parents model the faith at home or were they the type that only go through the motions while not understanding the teachings?
Because they covered the death and resurrection of Jesus with Mary worship and praying to saints. Mary was "holding back the hand" of HER SON who wanted to crush the world in anger. You should see the "Mary prayer cards" my mom got. Thankfully I was saved as a teen and knew these were lies. Jesus was second class to Mary in Catholicism in the church in my town.
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@@nancywest1926 If your claim is true, then you need to study the actual teachings of the Church and go back to your people and correct them. Ignorance and illiteracy can make some Catholics do the wrong things without knowing it. Instead of leaving the church Christ founded a man-made Protestant church, you should become a knowledgeable Catholic unlike what you used to be.
@@Lerian_V The institution someone belongs to will never save them, only Christ can.
That's why I left the RCC, I compared the Catechism of 1992 with the Bible and then it was impossible for me to receive Eucharist again. By the grace of God I haven't looked back since.
1992 Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life:
You must mean something else...surely you believe that Jesus died for you and his blood has atoned for your sins.
The Eucharist is very biblical. Start with John 6 and read again the last supper accounts. I would also urge you to read The Fourth Cup by former Protestant minister Scott Hahn.
Everything about the Eucharist is in the BIble. John 6.
I really hope you don't mean to abandon the Eucharist because Jesus was extremely clear in the bible about the bread and drink being his literal body and blood for our salvation.. and he even lost a lot of followers because they thought that was hard to take in. It's all in John's gospel and even in the last supper He was very clear when He said the bread and wine IS His body and blood. Eucharistic miracles have existed since the 300s ADs. Even Martin Luther believed in God's presence in the Eucharist!!!!!
@@XxANGELTEARxX8 I mean it would be nice if Rome didn't practice Idolatry of the Virgin Mary or teach that we had to earn/pay for our sins in order to get into heaven instead of having faith that Christ paid it IN FULL... but since you can't be Roman Catholic without believing in paying indulgences... I'd have to settle for Luther's path (Luther never denied Eucharist; but he, like myself, can not receive under the Cannon Law of the Roman Church since we don't recognize Papal Authority as superior to Scripture)
Well done, Todd. I was born into Roman Catholicism, and my pathway out into the freedom of the Reformed tradition replicated this history lesson in many ways. A difficult journey, but I knew God was with me every step of the way. I had my Luther moment early in my college years. I tried and tried to get RC priests to engage with me and my questions, and none were really willing to. I was teaching elementary school kids in Confraternity of Christian Doctrine classes and stumbled over so many Catholic practices that I could not substantiate in the Bible - which I was actually discouraged from reading by priests and nuns. I knew Scripture was authoritative - my spirit bearing witness to the Holy Spirit-breathed Word. Finally, I started reading Luther and Calvin for myself, and the jig was up. My eyes were opened to the falsehoods of the Roman Catholic church and its teachings. Sola fides. Sola gratia. Sola Scriptura. Soli Deo Gloria.
I don't think you meant it this way, but I do need to make sure. It is not the "Reformed tradition" (in the literal sense) that gives you freedom, but Christ.
I grew up being told that I was Roman Catholic. I had to go to church, Catechism, all the things that a Catholic mother makes her son and daughters do.
I hated confession with all my heart. Thankfully my mother only made me go twice a year- Christmas and Easter.
It seemed odd to me that God was all powerful and all knowing, but that I had to tell a man my sins; and then I could say five Hail Mary's and all was forgiven.
At 15 I refused to go anymore to church, telling my mom, "I'll go to church when Dad goes to church.
After that, I became an atheist until God showed me the truth of the matter.
I thank the Lord for bringing me to Him.
The Bible says we are saved by faith but it doesn't say by faith alone. Therefore the Bible refutes Sola Fides. Where in scripture does it say we should rely on scripture alone? It doesn't say that. Check out 1 Timothy 3:15 "The church is the pillar and bulwark of truth." I'm afraid this is a distorted history lesson. Ever read the early church fathers?
I'm also a "born" catholic...until the day I was sitting on hard pew and took a good look around at everything going on around me, and the Lord convicted me. I knew right there, there was something not right about that place and teachings. I walked away from it all, until the day called and Saved me!!!!! Halleluyah!!!! Blessings brother!!! Let now reach out to the poor souls still traped in that place. ❤️
@@freedom4life312 it may be that there wasn't something right there. There are some bad priests. There are bad Catholics but if you read the early church fathers you'll see they were Catholic.
When the RCC began to refer to Mary as "co-redeemer," it became crystal clear to me how apostate they had become. She is highly favored, yes, but co-redeemer??
No.
God permitted the redemption of mankind to the free will decision of a human. The graces that come through Jesus come to us in a secondary way through Mary. That’s what Catholics think of Mary as co redeemer
Mary's own justification is based on her faith in God and her willingness to obey him. She is referred to as redemptrix, not redeemer.
A Catholic apologist just asked me how people got saved before Luther. I answered, the same way they always have. They read a Bible and trusted God instead of ceremonies, memberships, and good deeds. (Big mistake on the RCC’s part, letting people see Bibles.)
But they didn't read bibles. The early church didn't have any bibles and you couldn't just get books off amazon.
@@KennyBare then they HEARD the word preached.
@@KennyBare That's actually a myth. If you look into it they had the gospels very early. Yes they obviously didn't have the full New Testament but there's evidence that shows the early church had the core gospel books in the 1st century and then many of Paul's writings not long after
I'm wondering how the Catholic apologist thinks people were saved before the coming of the Messiah? Haven't people always been saved by grace through faith in the promises of God?
@@dotero1817 I'm not catholic. But I don't think the Bible is the foundation of the Christian faith nor is it necessary for salvation. In the same way the catholic apologists are wrong, how were people saved before the Bible was compiled?
The #1 issue with Catholicism for me is absolutely Mariology. Nothing about what Catholics say about her is true and it just completely takes me out of it. Catholics try and argue they don't "worship" Mary when basically all I ever see is them worshipping Mary and putting her on a pedestal above Jesus. But let's hypothetically say they don't ACTUALLY worship Mary.
They declare her to be a perpetual virgin when she had other children. They declare her to have had an immacculate conception (which undermines Jesus being the only immacculate conception). They also declare that she never sinned in her life, while at the same time declaring she was a perpetual virgin. These two things are complete contradictions, because she was married.
1 Corinthians 7 "3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."
Jesus was a perpetual virgin, but he also never married. If Mary was a perpetual virign then that contradicts her need to be sexually faithful to her husband. Therefore, she sinned against her husband, and could not be forever without sin. Its a catch-22, literally an impossible situation.
Catholics in general try to downplay sex overall, though, so that's not surprising. Sex is both for pleasure and for children in marriage, its not just one or the other. The angel even tells Joseph not to sleep with her until after the baby is born, directly implying that yes, they will consummate after that is done.
Another thing that comes up is that they also sometimes call her the "Queen of Heaven". The "Queen of Heaven" actually DOES exist as a term in the Bible:
Jeremiah 7 "17 Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. 19 But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?"
This obviously predates the existence of Mary, and its clearly describing worshipping a false Goddess. Its another description of the depravity and idolatry of Israel.
Purgatory and the Papacy are other pretty big issues, but Mariology IMO is by far the worst aspect.
As for the Apocrypha, it already was translated by Jerome because they believed the Apocrypha was good reading to support the scriptures but not actual Scripture. Later they decided to incorporate it as actual Scripture, and it contains certain things that they use for examples of "praying for the dead" for their concept of "purgatory".
The problem is that the examples used here do not qualify. The fallen soldiers that were being prayed for in 2 Maccabees were found to be guilty of idolatry. Idolatry is a "carnal" sin which means you must go to confession to have your sins forgiven again to not go to hell. Purgatory is only for those who still have to pay penance but haven't committed any carnal sins.
It goes way beyond Mariology. Nearly every single thing about Roman Catholic dogma is heretical and pagan. By using the measure of scripture found in Galatians 1:8-9, Roman Catholics are not Christians at all. They preach an entirely different gospel based on works. This is also evident in the fact that modern polytheists such as Hindus reject Christianity, but accept RC because they see it similar to their religion. They see the worship of Mary and the saints as the same as themselves worshipping Hindu idols. Most polytheistic cultures get along because they’re all worshipping the same demons. This is why we as Christians must always be spreading the Gospel of Jesus to all, including those who claim to be Christian. For His glory, He will save them, not through Roman Catholic dogma, but in spite of it. As alway, Soli Deo Gloria.
I worked at a Catholic School and I can say with 100% certainty that they worship Mary. They're being disingenuous, I saw it first hand. I've seen them bow to a statue of her and put a crown on the statues head. I also witnessed borderline necromancy. One of the priests mother had died and he asked us to pray to her and she would very much appreciate it.
My friend says the RCC “venerates” Mary, not worship. But when you pray to her, sing songs of praise to her, put up statues to her…it’s simply worship under another title.
@@AstroMonkey88 I know it goes well beyond Mariology. Not making that argument. What I am saying is that Mariology alone is enough to turn me completely off Catholicism.
@@jrconway3 Yes, certainly. I am aware of your purposes and please do not suppose that I meant to say you were unaware to a further extant of such deplorable dogmas or that you were arguing that this is the worse, or that you were seeking to argue at all. My purpose of responding was to continue on in reply to your comment in a manner that was additive for all who may read it. I made it a reply to yours, rather than a free and standalone comment, so that it was building off of what you said. But surely, seeing how they worship this woman, is enough, as you have indicated, to put off any true Christian.
As a protestant, I've spent 4 years trying to fairly and accurately understand the fundamental teachings of historic Christianity, as well as Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
I highly recommend doing a deeper dive before making videos like this.
For example: They are not. Re-sacrificing. Jesus. On. the. Cross.
That statement is so incredibly inaccurate and frustrating to hear. Please take some time to listen to Catholic apologists on this issue before causing more unnecessary strife between the two sides of the Tiber.
There are enough legitimate concerns about their theology without adding false accusations and inflammatory statements into the mix.
Millions hate what they falsely think the Catholic church is....to be really steeped in history is to cease being Protestant.
Absolutely correct. I don't know how he researched for this but to get so many things wrong is really shocking.
Thank you for being a voice of reason in this sea of scornful comments.
@Cowgirl Annie we sure do. If you read John Chapter 6, Jesus could not be clearer about wanting us to eat his body and drink his blood even losing 72 disciples that day who couldn't handle this teaching. He was prepared to lose his 12 Apostles too the text says..
@Cowgirl Annie well Jesus isn't a magician 🙂 but this is his teaching. At the last supper after they had eaten the Passover meal, he says This is My Body, This Is my blood..Back in John chapter 6 he had said "Unless you eat My Body and drink My Blood you have no life within you." (John 6:53.) Science proves this too because there are over a hundred Church approved scientifically verified Eucharistic miracles. We certainly do not believe that Jesus is crucified at every Mass, rather that we are mysteriously transported back to Jesus sacrifice at Calvary and this is the eternal sacrifice is re-presented to the Father who of course exists outside of space and time.
This is a subject I’ve studied a good bit. 313 ad. is when the whole thing started sliding down that slope. When Constantine decided Christians weren’t as bad as he thought. He started to blend paganism with Christianity. Some of those people were so relieved not to be hunted anymore they figured what was a little paganism among friends? By 400 ad. The real Christians had to go underground again.
In my area, there is NO church that teaches only from the Bible! My good friend and I have resorted to listening to good pastors on RUclips and getting together and having a Bible study together. These end times are difficult to navigate, BUT GOD…..!
Have you read Crossing the Tiber or Catholicism and Fundamentalism? Good Catholic apologetics to round out your studies.
I would suggest to you that the whole thing started sliding down that slope much earlier, beginning with Ignatius of Antioch (d. c. 110 AD) saying that bishops should rightly stand in the place of Christ and God over the local assembly, a trend that became empire wide by 187 AD, curiously about the same time frame that the miracles of the Spirit severely declined. The Catholic bishops' usage of Nicolaitan authority to ostracize and push out the hyper-charismatic Montanists around that same time was also another sign that religion had replaced relationship (one's first love) with God.
Good for you knowing unbiblical teaching when you hear it and staying out of it.
Where I live, it's Buddhism & Mormonism.
RUclips, audio books and my house with my family have been the places for knowledge and worship.
@@neilgirrard5989 Nicolaitan authority? like the Nicolaitans that John spoke about? I hadn't heard about this authority before? any suggested sources?
@@slamdancer1720 Rev. 2:6, 15 is where it's said by Jesus. It's never explained and no group has been conclusively shown to be the Nicolaitans which seems to indicate that God has kept the Nicolaitans' identity to Himself as He said He would do with the tares. The literal meaning of the Greek word is "Nico," to rule or conquer, and "laitan," the people. The best source is the Spirit of truth that leads into all truth. Philip Schaff is probably the best source for church history. Blessings!!!
I used to be a Protestant and believed the Church taught all the things you say it teaches. Thank God he lead me to the Catholic Church that Jesus established! I think there are quite a few things you misunderstand about Catholicism. If we believed a lot of the things you say we do, it would be heresy and I’d run as far away as fast as I can. If you’d like me to explain in more detail what you’re misunderstanding about Catholicism I’d be happy to do so. You listed quite a number of things and I don’t want to leave a small book here so pick a topic and I’d be happy to discuss it! I don’t know everything but I spent 8+ years studying Catholicism under the threat of excommunication from my Protestant church and was told I’d go to hell if I convert. So I wanted to make sure Catholicism was true before converting. I’ll continue praying for you and all of our Protestant brothers and sisters!
How can one claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ but continue to sacrifice Him at the altar daily through the Mass? Have you not read the Bible that Jesus's sacrifice is Once and for ALL?
Jesus came to do away with the Altar, why do you guys set it up again?
By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet. For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
- Hebrews 10:10-14
He doesn't want to hear from you.
I almost forgot I am still waiting for you to discuss with me the sacrifice of Jesus at the altar of the Mass. Do you have any answers for me? It's been two months.
@@veekee75 I did reply two months ago. If you have further questions or if I can clarify anything, I’d be happy to do so.
@@mattpoole7507 where is your reply? Can you copy and paste it here?
I was raised Catholic. Since I was a teenager I asked a lot of questions because I could sense at that age that their teaching
were not biblical. During CCD class I asked multiple times why we prayed to Mary. The whole concept of confession to a priest and him "absolving" us of our sins made no sense. As an adult I left the catholic church and found a wonderful Bible based protestant church.
Only Christ and his direct entourage could perform miracles with HIS authority, of which forgiveness and damnation were included.... how RCs claim random guys that went through seminary get that power is *inconceivable* (princess bride).
Oddly, I don't recall any mention of the primary dozen apostles and seventy disciples actually forgiving sins. They raised the dead and did all kinds of healing but that wasn't among the list of chronicled actions.
@@nobodyspecial1852 You never read the bible.
So, which Bible based Protestant group did you find that was greater than anything God ever did?
Maybe it’s because I met God when I was totally isolated and didn’t even have internet, this was before social media anyway, but...I started and continue walking with God with nothing but prayer, a dusty old family Bible, and a Christian music CD someone once gave for Christmas and I found buried in a closet while hiding there. From the beginning Jesus has been my teacher and even after he rescued me from my circumstances and gave me physical freedom, Jesus and the Bible has remained my sole teacher. I interact with other Christians and listen to Christians and what they have to say...but at the end of the day my walk and the way I take is based solely on the Bible I read every morning and night, the Holy Spirit who leads me and helps me, and my prayers which I use to ask about things in the Bible I don’t understand or want to apply. I can’t even take credit for this way in which I walk because it was God who taught me and disciplined me and basically funneled me into the river in which I ride. We all stand and fall before Jesus. We all have access to His Word and all His advice and commandments. I don’t judge but I do wish with all my heart that everyone could experience a walk like mine because it’s truly amazing.
So I guess youve never read a science book!
@@Robert-xp4bn I believe Jesus was a man too. I believe Jesus was nothing more than a first century cult leader whose story got exaggerated
Mighty BIG AMEN to your great TESTIMONY to HIN.
GOD IS AMAZING BEFOR THE WORLD WAS EVER BORN WE WERE DESTINATED TO BA SAVED😃😃😃
@@ayybeealternative1999 If you truly do not know anything about Jesus or the Bible. Or Religion period. Im guessing that's the case. Your only purpose on coming here is to bash people. And you just believe in Science. So are people like you the future of the Science CULT? I think I will stick with Christianity. And most scientists "which is not you" are becoming believers every day. because they cannot deny the fact that there must be a intelligent design behind the Universe. Bye! but I will Pray for you. Because thats what we do.
I’m not Catholic but most of the dates provided are not accurate. In most of the things mentioned you can find much earlier that the dates given.
Your absolutely correct. Many doctrines weren’t defined until later but it doesn’t mean they weren’t there before. This is certainly the case of the Marian doctrines. Many of them were defined in the 1950s but the evidence of them before is overwhelming. The Assumption of Mary is a mystery in the rosary which predates 1950 by hundreds of years. You see The Assumption taught in Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy as well.
Thank you! I've been saying this. The vast majority of what he puts out are just straight-up historical inaccuracies. And he keeps making video after video with glaring errors.
I'm an lcms Lutheran so I don't agree with calvinist theology, but I agree with much of your disagreements with the RCC.
@Philip Pizzo very excellent, I was looking for expository preaching and almost became reformed, but listening to Chris Rosebrough, Jordan Cooper, Bryan Wolfmueller and a few other Lutherans helped change my mind, not to mention the lcms church was closer to my house so I could look into them much more easily. After laboring over the Lutheran lord's supper doctrine for a while I finally accepted and now celebrate that christ is present in the elements, though the true nature of the substance is unknown and am made much better for it.
@Philip Pizzo Reformed do not believe in OSAS thank you.
@Philip Pizzo communion is not "merely symbolic", but definitely IS symbolic. Also, Yes, there is a real Presence. The question is the nature of the presence.
@@ThumbKnuckle pftt. heresy!
@@gigiis526 heresy? What do you mean by that?
Unfortunately, most mainstream protestant denominations have become even more unbiblical in beliefs.
Mainstream Protestantism are fruits of Jesuit infiltration
They're getting really comfortable with the groomers too.
Very true
Yes, I am seeing more and more false doctrines from both Catholics and Protestants.
Doesn't matter how bad protestantism gets,
In protestantism people are free to be right or wrong doctrinally.
The Catholic Church will eventually (ad we go back to the dark ages) confiscate Bibles from people for the sake of union.
I was raised Catholic and am so GRATEFUL that the Lord opened my eyes. I always wondered why there was so many things that didn't line up with the written word. I will be forever thankful for Him pulling me out of a place of such darkness..............
Do watch Gavin ortlund
Sounds like you didn't a good understanding of catholic teachings and how they align with scripture
What's so dark in the catholic church?
@@juliapatyk7972 Many things, I think.. One biggie... Christ shed His blood "once for all" who accept. There is nothing we can do on our own to EARN salvation. How does Purgatory profane what Christ has done for us through His sacrificial act. It would seem to me that if we can go to purgatory and suffer/pray our way through, there would not have been any reason for the cross. By the way.... where can anyone find any doctrine of purgatory in scripture. Scripture says that if anyone tries to change or modify any part of Gods Holy inspired word , there's big trouble ahead.. Some say the WAY is "The bible plus tradition". Many others also believe this. The Mormans and Jahovahs Witness. God's word ,The Holy Bible, is self directing and literal and throughout the years still up to date Theology. Sin hasn't changed and His way to salvation hasn't either.. Wish you the best in your search for His truth..................
@@genekintz4725 1 Corinthians 3:15, Mark 9:49. I know we can't earn our own salvation, that's not what the Catholic church teaches
It’s been wonky from the first lie
Yep, we were both born Catholic, in fact, Ray was a Catholic monk for 13 months (prior to Vicki, obviously). Then he had his Luther moment and he was thrown out of the monastery for "questioning". Well, today we are happy Lutherans of the conservative WELS/ELS persuasion.
@Eucharist Angel You're setting up a Straw Man argument. We don't believe anything because Luther a Catholic priest said so. We believe it because JESUS said so. "This IS (est) My Body." "This IS (est) My Blood." HOW that happens, He did not say. Therefore, we believe in His Real Presence in the bread and wine. HOW this happens, we do not know. When Ray was in St. Francis Seminary near Milwaukee as a Cistercian monk, one of his teachers, another priest, said that, theoretically, if a priest said the Words of Institution while driving past a bakery, all the bread would become the Body of Christ. So much for the concept of transubstantiation. We care about the Doctrines of God - not man.
@eucharistangel4662 I don't think Luther added this to the gospel: Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven-not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”-John 6:53-58 (NKJV)
@@thomasweaver3405 You need to keep reading.
John 6:63, Berean Literal Bible:
It is the Spirit giving life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit and they are life.
In other words, Jesus was using metaphors, just like He used so many parables. I wouldn’t say Luther added to his gospel; he just failed to debride it of corrupt Catholic additions.
Galatians 3:3 English Standard Version
Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
I admire Luther for his journey. He recognized Paul’s message of grace alone through faith alone, but failed to apply it thoroughly to communion and baptism. It fell to a later generation to leave behind that Roman Catholic baggage.
You forgot *changed the 7th day Sabbath to the venerable day of the sun; about 300AD AND the adoption of pagan holidays; about 300AD.
Liar.
@shaulaheida HalleluYAH!
According to the Bible they have always been awry.
This hurts so much. Every time Scripture after Scripture is placed right in front of the catholics I meet, I either see personal attacks and name calling, or - more often - these people will respond by saying, "We can't interpret the Scriptures on our own. Why don't you lean on the 2,000 years of human understanding in the 'one true church' since we're the only ones who commune with Peter?"
Honest question: how am I supposed to truly minister to those who have been cowed into the idea that they cannot read and understand the Word? This nihilistic notion of faith is disheartening.
Unfortunately, all those involved with cults are dug in like a tick. I have witnessed to Mormons for years, and it is next to impossible to communicate with Mormons, because many are born into the cult and have been inundated with lies and deception for a lifetime. Even those who read their Bible will only read the verses that support their church doctrines. It is the same with Catholics and Jehovah Witnesses. What do we do? We witness the truth of Scripture, do not argue, walk away, and let God do the rest.
Until one's heart is broken for what their sin cost the father and the son, there is no hope.
I keep this in mind:
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. Isaiah 55:11
It helps me to remember my former state:
For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Titus 3:3-7
I admire your speaking the truth. It pleases God that you do so. For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 1 Corinthians 1:21
Jesus is coming! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! I made this channel because I felt guilty for not witnessing enough, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!
And this is why I'm Catholic. But I still love my protestant brothers and sisters!
Huh? What part of the video is the reason you are Catholic?
@Sammi G. cause todd is very ignorant when it comes to catholicism and you don't need to do a lot of research to what he's talking about to realize he's misunderstanding or is completely wrong about these topics
@@davidtaylor3576 I did realize that his thinking that Catholics resacrifice Jesus is mistaken. Jesus is reoffered but not crucified again. I wouldn't be surprised to learn of other mistakes he made. I'm not Catholic, but there's a lot about Catholism I love.
@Sammi G. I appreciate it! Trent horn is a great source for a lot of topics about catholicism. And also the church fathers are a great resource as well. The first question that I asked myself that lead me back to the faith was, " If there was no Bible for the first 400 years of Christianity then how did these early Christians worship and what did they believe." May God bless you and have a great rest of your day!
Jesus did warn us that we would be persecuted, rejoice! our reward is great in heaven!!! Proud Catholic here!
Wait! What? You're being persecuted? Here's someone with a disconnection with reality. Ever hear about the Inquisition? Geez, Shut-up already.
I was born and brought up as RC. Now I am reformed.. Thanks be to our God who provided me wisdom and praying friends..
Reformed? As in God only saves the predestined and damns to Hell all other souls irregardless of their free will choice to believe in Him?
Calvin, Luther, King Henry....
Reformed theology is utterly unbiblical.
I happen to stumble on this. I left the Catholic Church when I was 16 (I’m now 51). Since then, I’m an outcast with my family. My only sibling, my sister is President of her community who is Franciscan (we know it really to be the mother superior of her convent). Talk about wonky…anyway thank you, I learned a lot and reconfirms my decision to act as Martin Luther and leave.
I know it must hurt to be shunned by your family😢
Reconfirms my decision to act as Martin Luther and leave the apostolic church founded by Christ. I'm sorry for you girl.
I do not know what you are going through but you are nothing like Martin Luther you are better.
@@Lerian_V Except......the RCC is not the apostolic church founded by Christ. Did you watch the video? The doctrines were added and added over time. ALL of the doctrines that split us are all LATE additions. like 300-400 + YEARS after the Biblical Canon was complete. Then the RCC even added to THAT. RCC = Mans flawed invented Christianity. Back to the original comment. She left the false RCC church. The RCC was never founded by Christ. If anything Christ stepped in and yanked his word from the RCC and now it is flourishing all over the world due to Protestants translating and spreading that word to every corner of the globe. Just as Jesus promised would happen. RCC? = Do not translate or read for yourself............... Protestants? = Translate as much as possible into every language as possible and read it ALL!! Yea.....Who is the church? Who continued the great commission? The Protestant church did.
Amen... Christ told us that we would be hated....and our enemies they of our own household. Stand strong. I was never Catholic but am hated for being a real Christian...🌷📖
Good video but it forgot to mention the papacy and the infallibility of the pope when he speaks ex cathedra
While yea, it’s kinda hard to really say though for one there’s been claims it’s been used only twice on those two later Marian dogmas but there’s also the issue of it not being properly defined until near immaculate conception time 1850s
There’s claims that it was always there but then you have catholic apologists saying that a pope can be immoral and heretic but that doesn’t invalidate the office
How much of what the pope teaches and represents matter is unclear to both Catholics and non Catholics alike that the doctrine of infallibility makes no sense (and it’s been used on two false doctrines)
@@duckymomo7935 not to mention that there’s no definite point that is laid out as to when the pope speaks Ex cathedra. The only reliable definition of ex cathedra seems to be “when the church likes what the pope has said then he’s spoken ex cathedra which is rather convenient.
This isnt entirely historically accurate... Not a Roman Catholic myself but the development of each of these theologies is more complicated than is presented here. Certain particular aspects of Purgatory, for example, can be seen explained and believed in Origen, specifically his Homilies on Luke; this is the 3rd century. Transubstantiation is affirmed as early as the fourth century, check out Cyril of Jerusalem's Catechetical Lectures. More examples of this stuff can be given.
Again, not a Roman Catholic myself. But the development of some Roman Catholic teachings begins much earlier and in a more complicated sense than is presented in this video.
Unbiblical and your so-called developments became nothing more than a 3rd grade classroom game of "Pass the Story."
@@user-rg5vt9wi8q I'm not a Roman Catholic.
Respectfully speaking, you should be more gracious when you talk to people. Have a good day.
@@BartinButher I don't think so. Even Christ Himself laid it on the Pharisees pretty hard.
Yeah, the video is simplistic and twists history to fit a predetermined bias
Everyone watching this video is going to die at some point and each of you will answer to God for every idle word spoken, deed done by your hands and the motivation behind it.
Now, the evidence for this is that even if you say you don't believe me, your conscience bears witness that I speak the truth and you know there is a creator to whom you will answer to one day. Are you ready? Your "good actions" you rely on are detestable to God, lest you try to negotiate your way into Heaven. Only by grace and through faith shall you receive salvation.
Seek Christ while you still can, only He can forgive your sins. Repent and be born again, of water and the Holy Spirit. I say this without judgement and in absolute love when I tell you that Jesus is the light of the world, in Him there is no darkness...
How come the other churches outside of Catholicism (Orthodox, Coptic, Armenian, Syriac) all went down the same path of elevating the status of Mary and the saints, transubstantiation, infant baptism, etc?
infant baptism is awesome!...But I am Reformed so there is that. It does not appear that those others have gone quite as far down the mariology rabbit hole as the RCC
It's almost as if it was the protestants that broke away from tradition and added wonky stuff
Because all Christians believed that before Protestants changed it lol
Because they know a lot more than the person making these videos does.
This video is full of historical and factual error.
@@cjgodley1776 amen.
IMHO, the big moment of apostasy from Christ as Saviour was the Fourth Lateran Council 1215. This established officially Roman Catholicism with its position of salvation by its church sacraments and by its church priesthood. From this time onwards, Rome did not preach Jesus Christ's once-and-for-all sacrifice on the cross as the propitiation for sins. Rather, they taught that Christ's saving work was achieved through the sacraments and through the mediation of Catholic priests.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
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Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaens, early 2nd century:
“they [heretics] will not admit that the Eucharist is the self- same body of our Savior Jesus Christ”
“The sole Eucharist, you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself or, some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as wherever Jesus Christ is present we have a Catholic Church.”
Vivat Christus Rex et Ave Maria!
Polite Leader has a few informative videos speaking on the adopting of these heresies by the Roman Catholics.
John MacArthur has several sermons too
Thanks Todd! Fantastically simple breakdown. Will be saving this in my list of informative vids to send on. Many of my evangelical mates seem to be clueless about the gaping chasm between the denominations.
Please be aware, 99.9% of what he has posted here is factually false.
@@cjgodley1776 Facts cannot be false. Whether you believe them or not, that's a whole other issue. What did he say that is false? I can't stand it when someone says something is wrong or false and then doesn't specify any further. That's like having a debate and your counterpoint is "you're wrong".
@@buixrule The Catholic Church did not add to the Bible, the Protestants removed from the Bible. Do you know that the Protestants also wanted to remove the book of James and couple of others? If this information surprised you, look into it further.
This 'simple breakdown' is hardly informative, in fact its very misleading. As someone who came to the protestant faith in my 20s I only listened to the protestant side and protestants in my life confirming my early bias on how 'heretical' the Catholic church is.
However, when I started researching early church history more extensively - I realised everything I was taught & believed about the Catholic church were nothing but hollow straw-man arguments that can easily be taken down by Catholic apologists who KNOW their faith and explain it with clarity.
@@buixrule so what he argues are false because they are not facts. If you truly believe in facts as truths, then ask Catholics exactly what they believe and not what some junky Protestant thinks Catholics believe. At least respect their opinion believe and judge for yourself. It’s childish, unfair and unjust to claim Catholics do something they do not and judge them on that.
As a catholic, I couldn't agree more. The errors of the Church have piled up so enormously that there may seem there is no hope to bring that train back on the rails. It got so, so heavy... But there still are many of us who believe it's possible. This is why we're not protestants, but still call ourselves catholics, even though we are Bible-believing, new born Christians who see through the errors. We're the ones who made Catholic Church sign the Join Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification - a document that allows Catholics to firmly believe that we are saved by grace, apart of works, without being forced to leave the Catholic Church. We're the ones who forced the Catholic Church to publicly say that it is heretical to pray to Mary, because prayer is only due to God in Youcat (the new version of the Catechism for youth). We are the ones who push so harshly for the Catholic Church to be ecumenical, which is a code word for "more protestant-like". We know there's still much work to be done and that traditional wing of the Church is growing strong but... Don't give up hope. There's a billion Catholics out there. Vast majority of them will never leave, this is all they know and they don't even have any protestant churches they could go to if they wanted. They're all worth fighting for, and you can only do that from within the Church, not from the outside. Pray for us. Don't dismiss us, when we come up to you and ask for Ecumenism. What we really ask for is not for you to include us as we are, but to teach us. We really do mean that. Holy Spirit can do anything. Come, Holy Spirit! Renew Catholic Church.
God bless you and your efforts!
you have the pope that is the problem you dont have the holly spirit only in JESUS is salvation catholic church is unholy and destinated to fail., find A CHURCH EVANGELICAL SO YOUR SALVATION IS SECURE THRU CHRIST
Really I don’t think Yahusha said to follow religion but to follow him! Why must we classify ourselves with a religion! HalleluYah! Praise Yah in Yahusha’s mighty name!!
I've always firmly believes God has his children in various places for this very reason. God bless you're endeavors.
And what are some of the errors that you believe the church teaches? I am Catholic and would like to know.
🙋♀️ saved by the grace of God, by the blood of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Brought up in Catholic Church and I am so thankful to be free of the burdens and unbiblical teaching! Soli Deo Gloria!
I am a Catholic, and I attest to the fact that the teachings of the Catholic Church are not burdensome and are not contrary to the Bible
You clearly do not know what the Catholic Church believes.
Everything in the Catholic Church can be found in Scripture.
@@gch8810 I very much know what the Catholic Church teaches. Do you?
@@cjgodley1776 Scapulars in the bible? Veneration of "incorruptible" corpses & relics (human flesh, blood and bones), Infant baptism? Assumption of Mary?, Infant baptism? Co-mediatrix? Medals? Holy Water?, Statues and praying to them? Representative of Christ on earth? Indulgencies?, Stranger holidays and feast days dedicated to Mary & saints? Catechism? Adding to the Word? Explain these in the bible, before we go further
I used to be Catholic. I gave that up.
I’m Catholic, super Catholic and this video strengthens my faith more in God as a Catholic. This is because many false teachers are constantly struggling to bring down the Catholic Church, but as Christ said “the gates of the underworld will never prevail against His Church.
Thanks once again to the haters of Christ and His Church for strengthening our faith and resolve in God through the Church He founded for us.
I think you’ve completely missed the point of the video
@@connordiem3104 and what do you think was the actual point of the video?
@@connordiem3104 the video is a swing and a miss.
exactly. A devoted Syro Malabbar catholic here. This dude uses " Roman Catholic Church" so often shows me his hypocrisy.
He even dont know there are eastern catholics
Even orthodox christians beleived in these dogmas
These ppl think bible can lead them to heaven
And faith alone they can be saved. that's radical.
early christians never had or used a bible.
They can't prove ' sola scripture' from the book, they worship
God didnt give you a bible.
You are to be pitied
Hi Todd! I just stumbled upon your channel a couple weeks ago. I remember you from St James in W. St. Paul!! I grew up in that church! Did you? Chrisanne (Rebertus) Nahum.
Also, the Catechism was the second book I bought (after the Bible) that I searched for Scriptural support for the doctrines of the RCC and discovered so much truth about the false teachings of the “faith” I had been taught was “the ONE true faith”. I am SO grateful that God Himself drew me out of that darkness into His marvelous light.
Must not have read the Catechism very carefully there are literally reference after reference on almost every page...
@@TheDjcarter1966 a lot of those references are flat out wrong or prooftext
@@TheDjcarter1966, the catholic catechism teaches many things that are not biblical. For their proof they use singular verses removed from their immediate context, but also removed from context of what else the bible says on a topic. They preform esiagesis (probably spelled that wrong) almost exclusively by determining their traditions and then trying to mine the bible for verses thames can use to justify it. Though now they just use papal innerancy to explain how they have left the truth of scripture
@@TheDjcarter1966 in order to believe Catholic dogma you literally have to remove about half of the new testament and also many passages from the old testament.
Yeah God didn't do that. You've been systematically indoctrinated by false prophets exploiting your lack of strength in the ONE true Faith and your lack of knowledge of Sacred Scripture.
When the the thief on the cross recognized Jesus for who He was and asked to remember him, Jesus told him he would be with Him in paradise today. No purgatory needed because Jesus death on the cross for our sins was enough!!!🙏🙏🙏
Mary as co-redeemer will be the next great heresy following the IC and assumption.
"Will be"? It already is.
@@reidmason2551 It is not yet accomplished. After it is then comes Chrislam. If you are young enough you will witness this as it transpires.
Co-redemptrix is an unhelpful title which the Catholic Church, were it ever to define what the title means to say, would not use. The doctrine is simply that Mary actively co-operated with Christ on Calvary to help him bring about the redemption.
@@thecatholictypologist5009 Mary actively co-operated on Calvary? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? The Vatican plan is to raise Mary to the Godhead as co-redeemer
@@thecatholictypologist5009 That doctrine is blasphemous and unbiblical. Mary has no role in salvation whatsoever. Once she gave birth to Jesus and raised him, her role was done. Redemption is his job and his alone. To claim otherwise is basically saying that Jesus lied when he said HE was the way, truth, and life.
Jesus the man had a mother. Jesus the Christ has no mother, for God has no mother.
If you believe that Jesus is fully God and fully human then you must say that Mary is the Mother of God. Other wise you deny the trinity, become gnostic believing that God only used Jesus body as a vessel, or you become Nestorian saying that Jesus was only partially human and partially God.
@@peterhenryzepeda3484 Mary is not part Trinity so denying the divinity of Mary is not denying the Trinity. She is merely the creature that delivered God incarnate. You have no true conception of God. To say that God has a mother is pagan.
@@peterhenryzepeda3484 Marry was just a doorway to Earth. Jesus existed before He came to earth. You people are dense.
thats called the nestorian heresy.
@@VengefulPolititron show me that in the bible " mary is just the doorway",,,,
It was never not wonky.
Todd this is one of your best yet.
The catholic church defends its claims by triggering emotions instead of presenting Truth. That's why they need man-made props to enhance their religious experience (rosary, statues, holy water etc) NONE of those are Biblical but watch how quickly they come to their defense. I'm a born-again ex-catholic so argue away.
Let’s pray that Todd joins the Catholic Church.
That won’t happen. Even praying to Mary for Todd to join the Catholic Church won’t help
@@Wgaither1 Heck. even praying to Jesus to join won't work. Jesus won't lead us into temptation.
Why the hell would he do that?
The catechism says the cup has the true Blood of Christ, but yet further down, it says it’s a bloodless sacrifice ! Ok , so which is it? Can’t be bloodless if the “true” blood is in the cup.
That's because you don't understand what the Catholic Church means by referring to the Mass as an UNBLOODY sacrifice. It is not because of the ABSENCE of the blood of Christ on the altar during the Mass (His Blood is really and truly present in the chalice under the form of wine). It because Jesus doesn't suffer and die again and again at every Mass but He offers Himself as a LIVING SACRIFICE to God through the hands of the priest under the form of bread and wine.
The word "bloody" or "shedding blood" means "death" (see 1 Chronicles 28:3)
It is Jesus's resurrected Body and Blood.
@@jerome2642it’s either bloodless or it’s not. And I understand perfectly. I was a eucharistic minister. Do you want the paragraph numbers so you can read it for yourself. And he is suffering. That was the point of his crucifixion. To suffer by taking onto himself , our punishment. Besides , Christ said it is finished.
@@cjgodley1776if it’s his Resurrected body, then there can’t be blood in the cup
@@doug1863 Yes. There can be. Resurrected Blood.
My mother is still in the Catholic church. Deceived, buying everything hook, line and sinker. Lord, have mercy! Save her out of it!
Sorry to hear that Michelle. Out of a family of 6, I am the only one who's been born again, saved by the Blood of Jesus alone. The only two surviving family members are a brother who is a staunch Catholic, and a brother who is an atheist. They will both end up in the same place.
@@mikehamilton7668 I hear you! I'm the only born again Christian of a big family of Catholics. Spurgeon says that as long as there's breath, there's reason to hope. And pray! And so I do pray for our families, that the Lord would have compassion and save!
@@michelesmith4614 do you guys hear urself.... First: Doesn't the Bible say that those who don't hear the word of God will get a second chance. Also do you honestly, believe that God will send a family to hell, because they happen to be born in a catholic family... Like seriously?? U honestly believe, that 90% of India, and China, and all the other people who follow the 39k other religions. Are gonna sent to hell.... But noo urs is the right religion. Ur right everyone else is wrong. What do you have to say about the Bible being voted on, edited, and books removed? "just have Faith"? I'm lookin thru these comments, and all I see is hate. Not to mention this guy in the video has a hateful tone. He disses a pastor at the end(I personally don't like like how that pastor conducts himself, but that's just me) , but yet wants to sell yall a book. Why doesn't he just pray for millions of money, and then give the books away for free?? 45k Christian demonizations, am I supposed to assume, only 1 is correct, and the other is doomed to eternal fire, by a loving God, all knowing God, who knew humans, would fail. And since his all knowing, he already, knows whose going to heaven and hell... Making the final destination of a soul predestined, therefore rending the idea of "free will" useless... Like come on. I want to see the church talk about big topics like this. Not "if you don't believe, ur going to hell" scare tf outta people just to try to get a point across. Btw a lot of the beliefs we have now have changed from early, Christians, and it will change 200 years from now... Yall need some help. No wonder why people turning away from this stuff.
The Epistle by the Apostle Paul called, ,"Romans" is written to the
CHURCH OF ROME . Read the first 10 verses of chapter one. *Read how the
Holy Spirit left an indelibly engraved* eternal word of God through the Apostles and their love and affection for the Church of Rome.ROMANS 1 the Apostle Paul wrote to the Church of Rome under inspiration of Holy Spirit.
Romans 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for. .... *the obedience of the faith, among all nations for his name*
That's what it means to be Catholic and Truly Christian* , someone who loves Christ IS
1. *Obedient to the Faith* Not to Moses.
2. *Among all Nations*
3. *For Christ's sake*
The Epistle by the Apostle Paul called, ,"Romans" is written to the
CHURCH OF ROME . Read the first 10 verses of chapter one. *Read how the
Holy Spirit left an indelibly engraved* eternal word of God through the Apostles and their love and affection for the Church of Rome. ROMANS 1 the Apostle Paul wrote to the Church of Rome under inspiration of Holy Spirit. Romans 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for. .... *the obedience of the faith, among all nations for his name*
1 The Church of Rome's faith was " *spoken of throughout the whole world* ". Rom.1:8
2. God is Paul's witness *Paul prayed without ceasing* for the Church of Rome.
Also, "Making mention of the Church of Rome always in his prayers" . 1 verse 9
3. Paul extended ' *Grace and Peace from the Father and Lord Jesus Christ to the Church of Rome* . (vs 7)
4. *Paul thanked God for the Church of Rome* and calls them the beloved OF God!! (vs. 8)
5. Paul prophesied, *"The God of Peace will crush Satan under the Church of Rome's feet"* Rom.16:20
*At NO time did the Christ, the Apostles or Apostolic Church EVER refer to the Church of Rome as a Harlot*
Sabbath keepers murdered their own prophets, Christ and the apostles! 13 times the Sabbath keepers are called “Harlot” in scripture, the Church of Rome NONE! The scriptures express nothing but love, affection and admiration for the Church of Rome.
@@chucksmith4624 do you believe that Jesus is the only way with not one other thing or person added
You wrote a long verse yet l can see no remorse for the death of Jesus for this world He came to save.
Something for the RCC to consider: if Mary was immaculately conceived, who is her father? And then, what biological connection does Jesus have to King David? Which He has to have if He is the Messiah because that is what God promised David. If Mary is His only human parent, that connection must come from her ancestry. The genealogy in Luke establishes His connection to David if we logically assume Eli(Heli) is Mary's father, but if he isn't how then is Jesus a descendent of David?
Lineage in Jewish custom is matrilineal.
Hebrew custom.
Jesus was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.
Learn when the word Jew was introduced and what it meant
@@geordiewishart1683 being a member of the tribe of Judah does not make one a descendent of David, just a descendent of Judah. Being a member of the tribe would make someone a distant cousin of David, but God's promise to David was that a descendent of his would occupy his throne forever.
@@peterhenryzepeda3484 perhaps but the genealogies in Matthew and Luke are based on the men and establish no relation to David through any women.
Yes, I know.
My point is that people assume that Jew means Israelite.
It does not.
It does not even mean one from the tribe of Judah.
The word comes from Judean, meaning someone from the Roman province of Judea.
It had no significance in respect of lineage or religion.
Though it did then through useage come to mean someone who practiced Judaism.
But Judaism is not the law and the prophets
All those beads of prayers to Mary are blasphemous to God.God and God alone is worthy of prayer,glory and praise!!!!
I used to be a Catholic. Catholics and Christians are a very different breed.
Catholics are the original Christians. Everything in Catholicism is Scriptural.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
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@@finncollins5696 Ok so if the bible is heretical, how can the catholic church be in it? The Catholic church is heretical itself.
@@jgreen24 you got me wrong, as you got chrisitianity wrong.
Bible is not heretical. lamao. bible was created by the bishops.
I said limiting Jesus to the bible or believing in sola scripture is truly satanic and heretical. it is a so far away idea from the true, early , traditional, apostolic christianity. Im not even catholic, btw. Im oriental orthodox. Nobody beleived in sola scripture until satanic pawns arose in AMERICA, UK Or in WESTERN EUROPE few centuries ago. To whose countries not even a single apostle ever stepped on or preached.....
I didn't know that's what the Immaculate Conception meant. Thanks!
@cbs the Bible says that Jesus should be "seperated from SINNERS" (Hebrews 7:26), which means that He can't be conceived IN THE WOMB of a SINNER.
That's not what the immaculate conception means! Everything he explained about Mariology is false :(. The immaculata means that when St Anne and Joachim were together they were given a singular grace from God to consumate in a perfect state of holiness and purity in body and mind. They consumated without any physical or mental want, desire, arousal etc. They consumated with the purity of the angels and thus the uncleanliness that was brought upon reproducing from original sin was withheld and Mary was conceived without the stain of original sin that is given forth from the parents through sexual gratification onto the baby. She was conceived and lived without original sin thus was sinless in all other matters and was able to acquire the fullness of virtues that we were originally supposed to have before man fell from heaven, and because she was as such! Her body and soul were already fit for heaven without the death and decay brought on by sin and God thus assumed her directly into heaven.
It has nothing to do with the divine incarnation and ascension of God. Completely and absolutely different!!!! All that Mary had was made and given by God.
@@XxANGELTEARxX8 Except that flat out contradicts the Word of God. It isn't in the Bible and was added to the Dogma of the RC in 1854 by Pius IX.
@@jerome2642 Hebrews 7:26 does not support your view. Sorry. In fact, that would contradict other parts of the Bible.
@@rlhicks1 sorry, but it's not my "view". Funny enough, you didn't even attempt to offer an interpretation of Hebrew 7:26 that contradicts the fact that the mother of Jesus was not a sinner, neither did you even provide any evidence of contradiction between Hebrews 7:26 and other so called " Bible verses" that you claim that they support your erroneous opinion that Mary was a sinner. And please don't bother bringing up passages like Romans 3:23 and Luke 1:47 because neither of them support the claim that Mary was a sinner
Mike Gendron and his "Proclaiming the Gospel" website are excellent tools for witnessing to Catholics.
I love his “preparing for eternity” where he addresses questions posed by Catholics with verses from the Bible- God breathed truth. You can’t argue with that. He’s the Author.
Looking forward to his series on AGTV.
Why would anyone want to "witness" to Catholics ?
@@jerome2642 because we love them, because they are the mission field as we all once were/are?
@@gracepilditch9388 Here’s some objections to Protestantism then:
1. 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
So, there are verses hard to understand in Scripture, that they twist to their own destruction. Seems like the Protestant idea that the core parts of the faith remain intact and Protestants just have minor differences is false. It clearly says these verses that are hard to understand, if misunderstood, lead to destruction. Christ prayed for us to be One. Catholics have had one Teaching and Church for the last 2,000 years. And yet Protestants have many contradicting doctrines on the Bible and are splintered into many different denominations. They disagree on things like: once saved always saved, Baptismal Regeneration and when to Baptize, if and when divorce is allowed, if the New Testament Israel verses talk about the Church, Israel, or both, etc. So, simply put, Protestantism is a jumbled mess, how can anyone know the fullness of Faith in this mess? And Furthermore, how do you reconcile Peter saying no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of private interpretation? I mean yes, private interpretation is good, but you must submit to the teaching Authority, the Church, there’s a reason for the Church. Jesus Conferred upon the Apostles a Kingdom, a Visible, Structured Kingdom. Why did the man in Acts say he needed someone to teach him, and then an Apostle taught him?
Matthew 18:16-17
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
2. The Bible is a collection of Inspired Writings. How do we know what is Inspired and what isn’t? The Bible itself doesn’t tell us, there is no “Inspired Table of Contents”. The early Christians didn’t have or pass down a Canon. They disagreed on which Books were Inspired. Early Christian Writings far outnumber the Bible Books. How do we know some of the Books we have are Inspired too, from a Protestant viewpoint? How do you know if you have the right Old Testament Canon, with works like Enoch, or the DeuteroCanonicals, or even other Books? I don’t think scholarship is that good. The Catholic Church Compiled the Bible centuries after Christ’s Birth. Using the Authority Catholics believe the Church to have. This Canon was used for centuries and served as the basis for the Protestant Canon. And I don’t think the Protestants were divinely inspired, prots don’t believe that, Luther literally tried to remove Books like James. That would just be trusting some guy’s opinion. So if you reject the Authority of the Catholic Church, and the idea the Holy Spirit Protects Her from error, then what makes you say your Bible Canon is correct? And if you don’t have a Bible Canon, what does that leave you with? People coming up with their own ideas for the Canon, meaning the Bible, and the Deposit of Faith gets distorted to whatever you want. What can you rely on for a Bible Canon, your own opinion?
3. If sola scripture is true, why isn’t it found in the Bible? Why wasn’t it believed for centuries until the Protestant Reformation-era? The Bible does say to obey Tradition:
2 Thess 2:15
“So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.”
Why does the New Testament mention Jewish oral traditions not found in the Old Testament?
a. The reference to “He shall be called a Nazarene” cannot be found in the Old Testament, yet it was “spoken by the prophets” (Matt. 2:23). Therefore, this prophecy, which is considered to be “God’s word,” was passed down orally rather than through Scripture.
b. In Matthew 23:2-3, Jesus teaches that the scribes and Pharisees have a legitimate, binding authority based “on Moses’ seat,” but this phrase or idea cannot be found anywhere in the Old Testament. It is found in the (originally oral) Mishnah, which teaches a sort of “teaching succession” from Moses on down.
c. In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul refers to a rock that “followed” the Jews through the Sinai wilderness. The Old Testament says nothing about such miraculous movement. But rabbinic tradition does.
d. “As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses” (2 Tim. 3:8). These two men cannot be found in the related Old Testament passage (Ex. 7:8ff.) or anywhere else in the Old Testament.
Jesus did speak out against the traditions of men, but He didn’t say all tradition is bad, only that of men. Just like how there is Sound Doctrine and doctrines of men. This was said in a culture where everyone accepted Tradition. Also, if Jesus was saying Oral Tradition is false, the Pharisees could have pointed to the Torah and said Jesus was speaking orally, tradition, whenever He said something not in the Old Testament. Furthermore, Tradition is Transmitted and protected by the Church, St Paul even tells Timothy to entrust his traditions to trustworthy men, and Jesus gave the Church the Authority to bind and loose, and Promised that the gates of hades will not prevail against the Church. Furthermore, only a couple verses earlier Jesus seemingly confirmed the “seat of Moses” Tradition.
“Word” in Holy Scripture often refers to a proclaimed, oral teaching of prophets or apostles. What the prophets spoke was the word of God regardless of whether or not their utterances were recorded later as written Scripture. So for example, we read in Jeremiah:
“For twenty-three years . . . the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again . . . ‘But you did not listen to me,’ declares the Lord. . . . Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words. . . .’” (Jer. 25:3, 7-8 [NIV]).
This was the word of God even though some of it was not recorded in writing. It had equal authority as writing or proclamation-never-reduced-to-writing. This was true also of apostolic preaching. When the phrases “word of God” or “word of the Lord” appear in Acts and the epistles, they almost always refer to oral preaching, not to Scripture. For example:
“When you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God” (1 Thess. 2:13).
If we compare this passage with another, written to the same church, Paul appears to regard oral teaching and the word of God as synonymous:
“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6).
The Jews believed in Tradition, the Pharisees who Jesus and Paul said were mainstream Judiasm believed in Tradition, but not the Sadducees. The early Christians relied heavily upon Tradition, for many reasons, not having a Canon, Bible Writings being hard to come by, etc. And also the Book John 21:25 says:
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
There we see, that the Bible did not have room for everything Jesus did. It may be implicitly found in Scripture, but not explicitly. Furthermore, Tradition explains the Bible, like the Hadiths explain the Quran. What about vague verses? The Jews believed in an Oral Torah to explain vague verses. What if a dispute arises, also, and people need help interpret aging Scripture and Tradition? Maybe an Infallible Interpreter? And also, how did the Jews know about God before Moses Wrote the Torah?
4. How do you reconcile the fact that the unanimous testimony of the early Church, even people who knew the Apostles directly, wrote very Catholic. For this, I’d look up St Ignatius, Pope Clement 1, the Didache, Justin Martyr, the Letter of Barnabas, and the Shepard of Hermas. They write about Apostolic Succession, the Catholic Church, the Authority and Presidency of Rome (Peter states he is in Babylon, a.k.a Christian code name for Rome), and Bishops, priests, and deacons, as well as more. And some of these guys knew the Apostles directly, and some of these are the earliest Christian sources. How do you reconcile that? Historical evidence exactly against Protestantism. Where is the historical evidence of Protestantism existing beforehand? Did the whole Church fall away, despite Christ’s Promise about hell not prevailing against the Church? For centuries? That early on? The Christians in Rome, Catholic Saints, and Middle Ages Christians? Sounds like Mormonism if you say yes.
5. How do you reconcile things like the Book of James refuting faith alone, or the Letters of Peter saying Baptism saves us, or Jesus saying you must be Born Again of Water and Spirit, or the Bible verses about Peter and also Isaiah 20?
The Roman Catholic church has always been wonky, it has always been paganism attempting to disguise itself as Christianity.
The Bible supports purgatory Todd.
1 Cor. 3:13 - when Paul writes about God revealing the quality of each man’s work by fire and purifying him, this purification relates to his sins (not just his good works). Protestants, in attempting to disprove the reality of purgatory, argue that Paul was only writing about rewarding good works, and not punishing sins (because punishing and purifying a man from sins would be admitting that there is a purgatory).
1Cor. 3:17 - but this verse proves that the purgation after death deals with punishing sin. That is, destroying God’s temple is a bad work, which is a mortal sin, which leads to death. 1 Cor. 3:14,15,17 - purgatory thus reveals the state of righteousness (v.14), state of venial sin (v.15) and the state of mortal sin (v.17), all of which are judged after death.
Please don't think that current Catholics or former Catholics hate you. We don't. We're a million miles from hate. Just keep worshiping God through Yeshua/Jesus.
FLEE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH UNLESS YOU WANT TO START ANOTHER REFORMATION
How about the “change” of the Sabbath to Sunday? That was pure RCC, wasn’t it?
That's not the only problem. The days of the week are named after pagan deities , also the months of the year. Also the 365-day calendar is also a pagan calendar. The original hebrew calendar is 360 days - every few years another month is added but that's a different story.
@@bojo0o so how do we remember sabbath in pagan calendar? Just Saturday?
if only Jesus and the Apostles taught Bible Alone, Faith Alone... spoke Bible Alone, Faith alone.. alas they didnt. sorry.
If only you understood what you were reading.
This was very informative.
After 32 years believing and being taught the rapture is unscriptual, God proved it to me recently, that the rapture is true and is coming.
I can't put into words the relief I felt as I had many doubts about some of the teachings I had been taught.
The reason I am writing this, is that there are about 1.2 billion Catholics and I am sure many, many are wonderful people, as I have Italian cousins and they are very kind & great to be with.
It dawned on me that with false teaching comes a false belief, and so when the rapture comes, it will be a terrible day, a waking up day for those people and many others.
May we all receive the undeserved kindness of our King Jesus and be with him in the future.
There are many believers in the reformed faith that don’t hold to the rapture.
@@debracopen3119 Absolutely, and I understand the actual phrase 'rapture' doesn't appear but the idea, the wording of being taken, or snatched is.
It's taken me about 32 years to accept the rapture.
My old teaching was so deep inside me.
I am an evangelical Protestant and don't believe in the rapture
@@geordiewishart1683 Each to their own. At the end of the day, it's by his undeserved kindness we are saved.
There is a rapture, the question is when.
Christianity is to follow the words of Jesus Christ ❤️✝️🙌my Lord, Savior and God and no one else
The Protestants and Catholics all need to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.Unless we’re born again we will not see the kingdom or enter the kingdom of God
How are we born again?
I am a Catholic and I AM SAVED, I am being SAVED and I will be SAVED.
REALLY DONT BRAG YOURSELF BUT IS A LIE.. AND YOU KNOW IT ONLY JESUS SAVES NO IMAGES IDOLS, NO MARY,,, ONLY JESUS
I'm sure their are people in the catholic church that are saved,but it's a very slippery slope,with all its paganism.I could never be catholic,especially now with their pope outright practicing paganism with that pachamama,and organizing the one world religion headquarters in the middle east(chrislam) both the catholics and Muslims worship Mary,so they should get along OK.
My former baptist pastor (NABC) told me that the counter reformation got some things right… !! It was during a meeting I had with him to discuss things I was concerned about, chiefly Spiritual formation and mysticism being taught… so I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised. Left that church after that :(
The NAbC hasn't been traditionally Baptist for a long time. And unfortunately the SBC seems to be heading in the same theologically liberal direction.
Trent got nothing right
@Amy Klassen that pastor was clearly a Jesuit 😂
TODD- Your date edit is wrong. You stopped at 1992 and said 1962 🙃
Catholic Church has always been wonky. Like, bonkers, bonkers, Willy wonkers.
Also, thank you for turning the comments section on!!
I doubt you've ever really engaged with the teachings of the church from Catholic sources like The Catechism of the Catholic church. This video is just strawmen and distortion. I mean it's so unjust that it ought to be taken down and remade
@@stevenstevenson6343 I don’t really follow any of Wretched’s heretical opinions or teachings. I watch for the purposes of what to mark and avoid. But we all know that the Catholic Church is a pagan, idol worshiping mess of false theology. Get out of that crap. Cause that’s what it is. Complete crap.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
@@finncollins5696 brother it’s nothing but the blood. Being apostolic or “traditional” Christianity will not do a damned thing for you. Certainly does not impress me one bit. I could literally care less.
Following Jesus means following his Word (that is why he calls himself the Word), following his Word means following his disciples (Matthew 16:18), following his disciples means following the Catholic Church and being united. Even Peter made mistakes, a faithful believer can discern those easily, but it still does not justify separating from Apostolic Succession.
Very informative!
Todd, I’d love to hear your take on Bart Barber and Brent Leatherwood and their hostility towards abortion abolitionists.
Simple. John 8:44.
My husband and I went to Italy in June. We went into many cathedrals. After pretty much each one I walked out feeling dirty. Every single one of them had Mary on full display and Jesus either as a perpetual baby or dead on the cross. It was all about Mary. Beautiful architecture and artwork, but the paganism of Mary is just insane. I hated it. We slowed going to them it was so disturbing. And no, we didn't go into the Vatican. I would not have been able to keep my complaints to myself and my husband.
Mary said and prophesied, "...and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior! For He has looked with favor on the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed. For the Mighty One has done great things for me. Holy is His name.…" (Lk. 1:47-49)
R. Catholics are blessed to have fulfilled this prophecy. In VENERATING (not worshipping) Mary, Catholics praise God for the great things He has done!
If Mary was good enough for God, then she should be good enough for us.
@@johnmartin3621 calling her blessed and worshipping her are two very different things. Pray to the Father through the Son, not the woman who died 2000 years ago and can't hear you.
@@ChristIsLord247 Exactly! calling her blessed and worshipping her are two very different things! That is what i earlier said... Catholics VENERATE HER NOT WORSHIP HER. It would do a great service if you search the dictionary for meaning of "venerate."
Oxford Dictionary defines "ven·er·ate" as to
"regard with great respect; revere." So, Catholics dont worship but regard Her with great respect.
@@johnmartin3621 do you pray to Mary? If you do then you are worshipping her, or you are attempting to speak with the dead at a minimum, both of which scriptures say not to do. Look at the artwork in the cathedrals. I don't remember if it was Florence or Siena but there was a huge painting of God, Jesus and Mary. Mary was above both the depiction of God and the depiction of Jesus. There were prayer spots/candle lighting spots (I'm not sure what they are called) with depictions of Mary. I asked one of the workers what those were for, and was informed it was for people to light a candle and pray to Mary their requests. Why on earth are you praying to Mary? Where does that come from? There is no scripture that says pray to Mary. It's breaking the 1st commandment. Then, you have all the Mary statues, the Jesus statues, all of which people bow before, those are idols. Breaking the 2nd commandment. Yes I know Catholics have them numbered differently. I have also found that most every Catholic I meet in the states have absolutely no idea what the Catholic Church confesses to and believes. Also, actions speak louder than words, if it looks like worshipping, and sounds like worshipping, and an outsider would call it worshipping, it's worshipping even if you call it veneration.
@@ChristIsLord247 Hi Brother, 1st, please check the dictionary for the meaning and difference of praying and worshipping because they are not the same.
2nd, pls don't put forward as an argument something you are not sure of, it flatly destroys your point.
3rd, The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that: "The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it." The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful veneration," not the adoration due to God alone:
Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. The movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is. (2132).
4th, the saints (Mary among them) who are in heaven are not dead but alive before God. Read Rev. 7:13-14 "Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” “Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. For this reason, they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them." So, when you die and go to heaven, THANK GOD YOU ARE STILL ALIVE BEFORE HIM!
5th, It would be nice not to accuse people falsely... especially Catholics... because you accuse them not because of what you know but because of what you DO NOT know.
6th, It would be wise if you do some scholarly research first before you make claims founded on hearsays and personal opinions of the uninitiated. in that way, you would be better far off than them.
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@@WretchedNetworkWhat about Eastern Orthodox Church, are they better then Roman Catholics?
I attended a Catholic funeral recently…there was no mention of purgatory. I thought that was interesting. Also, the priest quoted from the book “Heaven is For Real.” I almost laughed out loud.
AD 1546:
The Catholic Council of Trent, called to counter changes made by Martin Luther, again reaffirmed the canonicity of all 46 books of the Old Testament. Some Protestant reformers who attended, tried to get the Church to accept the list of books which the Jewish rabbis had chosen at Jamnia.
The Church refused and upheld her teaching from Pope Damasus I, and the Council of Florence. As a result, Protestants have the same New Testament books as Catholics, but their Old Testament differs because it does not contain the books rejected by the rabbis at Jamnia, and much later, rejected by Martin Luther.
It is interesting that for 1500 years all Christians accepted the same canon for the Old Testament. Only in the last 480 years, since the reformation, has there been disagreement from Protestants
AD 1546: At the Council of Trent, the Catholic Church reaffirmed once and for all the full list of 27 books. The council also confirmed the inclusion of the Deuterocanonical books which had been a part of the Bible canon since the early Church and was confirmed at the councils of 393 AD, 373, 787 and 1442 AD. At Trent Rome actually dogmatized the canon, making it more than a matter of canon law, which had been the case up to that point, closing it for good.👍👍
Eye opening as an ex catholic I didn't understand many of these things that we did and there are some thing I didn't even know they practice
And this video helps to dig you deeper in ignorance of what Catholics do. You might need to listen to Catholic Theologians explain the faith to you since you’ve now shown some interest in it.
Hoping you’re not listening to videos like this just for the purpose of bashing Catholics. If you do it for knowledge, then there you need to listen to Catholic theologians explain their belief and practices.
God bless you.
Thanks for this..
I’m Orthodox, formerly Baptist, we share many things with the Catholic Church. At one point they were one Church but then they broke off and added a lot of the things you touched upon in your video. What I know is the Church was founded by Jesus from the very beginning and has since stood firmly through the test of time. We follow the Bible, but the Church came first. ❤️☦️
I entertained orthodox for a moment before being Catholic and that is the key word "being" my very being is Catholic of which I am proud. Orthodox were 5000 Catholic were 500000. Filioque,
He touched upon a lot of things that were common to both east and west before the "1054" schism. Beginning with Constantine's paganization of the church. Too many for me to want to remain Orthodox. The 2 are very similar. Neither likes to admit it. Yep, nothin' like that ol' time religion. Time to get back to Jesus and the simplicity of Christ alone, by grace alone, through faith alone, with the final authority of scripture alone, to the glory of God alone.
@@Blaisesongs yes catholics and orthodox are the same; with the same doctrine but not unified in hierarchy. You are right, going to pastor Jimbow and his counterparts in the 40k+ Protestant denominations is better. Each of them says and proclaims things they do not understand and contradict one another as being the true meaning of the Bible and having anarchic rock sessions for worship because we know that God never codified any form or worship through His prophets.
@@Blaisesongs Sola Scriptura is self-contradictory.
@@T...P... so if Sola Scriptura is self contradictory, where did you get your doctrines from?
'Sit under a man who sits under Jesus!' Ameen.
Every church is going wonky.
I can't find a church that does church.
In Vancouver Canada. They all are getting wobbly
They call the pope the holy father blasphemy there is only one father he is in heaven
I'm so sorry for all those who profess their fathers were not holy.
It is true that there is ONLY one FATHER in heaven (God). But Catholics simply call the Pope "Holy Father", and not "Father in Heaven".
@Cowgirl Annie No it isn't. I simply said the truth. We DO NOT refer to the Pope as "Our Father in Heaven".
@@jerome2642 Can a holy father be holy when he in mortal sin?
@@Wgaither1 ALL christians are referred to as a "HOLY people" (1 Peter 2:9), even though ALL christians are capable of commiting mortal sin.
God preserved a remnant just like he always does and did.
The Celtic or culdee church in Britain, of which Patrick was a bishop, long predates papacy
Yeah! Everybody imagines and claims their the remnant
@@chucksmith4624 "they're" not "their". Catholicism is clearly paganized and full of idolatry. The point is that Jesus promised to sustain the true church.
Matthew 16:18 NIV
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
The church is the gathering of believers, not the political hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church. Jesus preserved a remnant of believers even though the Bishop of Rome had a corrupt influence.
@@ronaldschoolcraft8654 😂😂😂😂. All the cults say the same thing!!!
@@chucksmith4624 except they don't have the plain words of Scripture to back them up. The reliability of the Holy Bible is supported by overwhelming evidence which can be categorized as manuscript evidence, archeological evidence, prophetic evidence, and statistical evidence. No other "cult" writings can withstand rigorous scrutiny.
I always wondered where they went wrong. Now do the Eastern Orthodox.
You would enjoy Ready to Harvest here on RUclips. He compares and contrasts denominations. I love it!
Well this video isn’t a good explanation of that since it presents nothing but lies about the church.
They didn't go wrong and this video is full of historical and biblical inaccuracies and falsehoods.
Not according to the sources Protestants use.... which came from the libraries of the RCC itself.
Go read up on your RCC history.
Look at the culture of ancient Rome, and see the parralells.
Look at the culture of ancient Judea, and see the differences.
@@cjgodley1776
I wanna say this out of love, but I’ve noticed that RC commenters on videos like these are all just angry doubters of Protestantism
False! Ignatius of Antioch in 110 first used the term catholic for the Christian church. It already existed immidiatly, not 500 years after Christ or 1000 years after the pope of Rome became the sole pope. And the apostles also appointed the bishops in these churches and the early church said to never go further as a church without a bishop. So which protestant churches follow this?
Catholic with a small c. Comes from the from the ancient koine Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos) 'universal') comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou). Even protestants believe the church is universal...one with Christ.
The Catholic church went wonky when it was established
So when Christ established his church is what you're saying
@@vincentterraneo263 COPE!!!!!
@Cowgirl Annie I keep hearing "when it was established" but when was that? There seems to be some narrative that the Catholic Church was just created one day and was somehow different from other Christians.
The fact is that this video shows ancient Christians were Catholic. Don't you find it interesting that he was showing Catholic teachings were around since at least the 3rd century but the earliest protestants didn't appear until the 15th. How is this not him basically admitting that his theology has no historical bases.
@Cowgirl Annie Orthodox don't claim that, The Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church were one church until the great schism in the 11th century. Both churches recognize the other as having legitimate apostolic secession.
Some Baptists say there have always been baptists since the start of Christianity but were oppressed by the Catholic Church. There is absolutely no proof of this. They either use the lack of evidence as proof of oppression or try to connect themselves to splinter groups such as Anabaptist which have no actual ties to them and infact disagree with them on core issues.
Im a syro Malabbar. we all are the traditional true, apostolic christians( eastern orthodox, oriental orthodox, coptic, armenian, syriac, ) have most of these marian doctrines.
Most are as dogmas. The rest are not cannonozed as dogmas. But it is beleived by many individuals since the first century,
I think it's prots and evengelicals who are decevied by satan. Not us,
Worshipping bible with the "sola scripture" and "born again" was only invented by some crazy white folks in satanic America and UK, whom doesn't ever have apostolic succesion
All the churches mentioned in your heretical bible as well are either catholic or orthodox,
There is no single bible worshipping 'sola scripture" in the middel east or among any church guided or built by apotles
Truth is very clear
These days many souls are getting dragged away by fake prophets and preachers like evengelical pastors and especially that dude who spoke like as he was possessed by a demon. in the video.
Most of the dates he gave was 100% wrong.
Still can't beleive many lost sheep of the Lord follow false preachers like him blindly. Who can't see the true spirit of early christianity. bible was created by the church. not by God.
A BOOK CAN NEVER LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN.
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Thanks Wretched for this video! Can you talk about the greek orthodox church?
The Orthodox and Catholic Church split around 1054 while many will say the differences a great they overlap on almost every major doctrine...while the Orthodox don't really reach out much the Catholics have reached out several times and consider their sacraments valid.
The Church did not go astray. Catholicism is more Biblical than Protestantism if you look at it, also, more similar to Judaism, showing Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. Also, we don’t believe in Scripture Alone, because for one, that itself is unBiblical, so everything isn’t always explicitly in the Bible that’s in Catholicism. Also, let’s look at the early Christian sources, some literally who knew the Apostles directly:
Ignatius of Antioch, who was a direct disciple of St John the Apostle, there were some later forgeries of his letters, but these letters are historically, not forgeries:
See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there, let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. ((Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 8).
“Now, therefore, it has been my privilege to see you in the person of your God-inspired bishop, Damas; and in the persons of your worthy presbyters, Bassus and Apollonius; and my fellow-servant, the deacon, Zotion. What a delight is his company! For he is subject to the bishop as to the grace of God, and to the presbytery as to the law of Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Magnesians 2 [A.D. 110]).
“Take care to do all things in harmony with God, with the bishop presiding in the place of God, and with the presbyters in the place of the council of the apostles, and with the deacons, who are most dear to me, entrusted with the business of Jesus Christ, who was with the Father from the beginning and is at last made manifest” (ibid., 6:1).
“Indeed, when you submit to the bishop as you would to Jesus Christ, it is clear to me that you are living not in the manner of men but as Jesus Christ, who died for us, that through faith in his death you might escape dying. It is necessary, therefore-and such is your practice that you do nothing without the bishop, and that you be subject also to the presbytery, as to the apostles of Jesus Christ our hope, in whom we shall be found, if we live in him. It is necessary also that the deacons, the dispensers of the mysteries [sacraments] of Jesus Christ, be in every way pleasing to all men. For they are not the deacons of food and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They must therefore guard against blame as against fire” (Letter to the Trallians 2:1-3 [A.D. 110]).
“In like manner let everyone respect the deacons as they would respect Jesus Christ, and just as they respect the bishop as a type of the Father, and the presbyters as the council of God and college of the apostles. Without these, it cannot be called a church. I am confident that you accept this, for I have received the exemplar of your love and have it with me in the person of your bishop. His very demeanor is a great lesson and his meekness is his strength. I believe that even the godless do respect him” (ibid., 3:1-2).
Those indeed, who belong to God and to Jesus Christ-they are with the bishop. And those who repent and come to the unity of the Church-they too shall be of God. . . . Do not err my brethren: if anyone follow a schismatic, he will not inherit the Kingdom of God. . . . Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: for there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of His Blood; one altar as there is one bishop with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons (Letter to the Philadelphians, Chapter 3).
“Ignatius . . . to the church also which holds the presidency, in the location of the country of the Romans, worthy of God, worthy of honor, worthy of blessing, worthy of praise, worthy of success, worthy of sanctification, and, because you hold the presidency in love, named after Christ and named after the Father” (Letter to the Romans 1:1 [A.D. 110]).
“You [the church at Rome] have envied no one, but others you have taught. I desire only that what you have enjoined in your instructions may remain in force” (ibid., 3:1).
Pope Clement 1, who knew the Apostles directly, the first successor of Peter:
POPE CLEMENT I
“Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4-5, 44:1-3 [A.D. 80]).
HEGESIPPUS
“When I had come to Rome, I [visited] Anicetus, whose deacon was Eleutherus. And after Anicetus [died], Soter succeeded, and after him Eleutherus. In each succession and in each city there is a continuance of that which is proclaimed by the law, the prophets, and the Lord” (Memoirs, cited in Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 4:22 [A.D. 180]).
1 Peter 5:13, NIV: She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.
It is a well known historical fact Peter was in Rome btw, his Tomb is found there and also:
1 Peter 5:13, NIV: She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.
In Babylon, Babylon was a Christian code word for Rome
Look at the Authority Pope Clement 1 had in the early Church:
POPE CLEMENT I
“Owing to the sudden and repeated calamities and misfortunes which have befallen us, we must acknowledge that we have been somewhat tardy in turning our attention to the matters in dispute among you, beloved; and especially that abominable and unholy sedition, alien and foreign to the elect of God, which a few rash and self-willed persons have inflamed to such madness that your venerable and illustrious name, worthy to be loved by all men, has been greatly defamed. . . . Accept our counsel and you will have nothing to regret. . . . If anyone disobey the things which have been said by him [God] through us [i.e., that you must reinstate your leaders], let them know that they will involve themselves in transgression and in no small danger. . . . You will afford us joy and gladness if being obedient to the things which we have written through the Holy Spirit, you will root out the wicked passion of jealousy” (Letter to the Corinthians 1, 58-59, 63 [A.D. 80]).
HERMAS
“Therefore shall you [Hermas] write two little books and send one to Clement [Bishop of Rome] and one to Grapte. Clement shall then send it to the cities abroad, because that is his duty” (The Shepherd 2:4:3 [A.D. 80]).
Here’s the Shepard of Hermas:
HERMAS
“[The Shepherd said:] ‘But those who are weak and slothful in prayer, hesitate to ask anything from the Lord; but the Lord is full of compassion, and gives without fail to all who ask him. But you, [Hermas,] having been strengthened by the holy angel [you saw], and having obtained from him such intercession, and not being slothful, why do not you ask of the Lord understanding, and receive it from him?’” (The Shepherd 3:5:4 [A.D. 80]).
@@kyrptonite1825 No, Im sorry. i respect your religion. But my religion is the inspired Word of God straight out the bible. I am saved by Righteous Faith alone.
@@GodNSense and that which you believe in, was compiled by Catholicism as their own book, but you have problems with them. 🤷🏾♀️
@@sha-ula-vram1632 No, it was compiled by the prodistants. And then the Catholics tried to change it to give them power. That's the Pope's Bible.
AS A CATHOLIC, LET ME CORRECT THE ERRORS IN THIS VIDEO.
Catholicism is largely misunderstood. But if you study history, you'll find all Christian denominations have roots going back to the Catholic Church, the FIRST Christian denomination established by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
This fact is shown by the unbroken chain of leaders (called Popes) going all the way back to the time of Jesus, with the first of these leaders, Simon-Peter.
Now, let's bust up some myths!
PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD. Yes it is Biblical, and not just something Catholic did and do. The ancient Jews followed this practice, and still do so today.
In 2nd Timothy, Paul, after praying for a man and his household, it appears a man named Onesiphorus seems to have died. Paul prays May the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that day".
VENERATION OF THE SAINTS. This is NOT worship. It's giving them respect and honor.
Praying to Mary and other Saints is only asking them to pray for us as intercessors. Just like you might ask ask someone to pray for you.
"RESACRIFICING CHRIST IN COMMUNICATION/; EUCHARIST. No, Jesus is NOT resacrificed. He paid for our sins once and for all on Calvary. So, the eucharist is only a celebration, and an extension of His Sacrifice. An extension is not the same as a redo.
In John 6:50, Jesus is with His deciples. He says "This is the bread which comes down from Heaven. In verses 51-58, He explains Transubstantiation, that is, the bread and wine being transformed into His body despite them remaining the same in terms of appearance.
In verse 66, Somebody His followers were so put off by what Jesus said, they left, and never returned.
If Jesus wasn't serious, doesn't it seem He would have said something like "Hey guys, come back! I didn't really mean it that way". But no, he let them leave
WORSHIP OF MARY. Catholics do NOT worship Mary! No way, no how!
Catholic teaching states God, and ONLY God is to be worshipped.
She is however venerated, that is highly respected and admired.
In Luke 1:28 and 30, An angel calls Mary "Fill of grace," and to have"Found favor with God".
In verse 42, Elizabeth calls Mary "most blessed among women". In 43, she calls Mary "Mother of my God".
PURGATORY: Purgatory is not a place between Heaven and Hell.
Purgatory isntva place where you go to pay for your sins either.
Christ paid everything 💯%.
The reason for Purgatory, is because even as believing and saved Christians, we still have a sinful nature. And that flaw can't be permitted into Heaven.
So, we go there as a final cleansing to purge (Purge is the root word for Purgatory".) the last sinful residue from our souls.
In 1st Peter 3:18-20, and 4:6, we read about Christ preaching to spirits in a "prison". Where was this prison?
Thank you for this!
I was baptized a Catholic as an infant. Recently I started reading the Bible and I'm finding it harder to adhere to Catholicism.
The one thing that bothers me the most is the pope. What really grinds my teeth is the current commie pope said he wants to rewrite parts of the Bible to reflect modern nuances. Since when did a sinner have the right to alter the words of God?
The Catholic ‘church’ didn’t go wonky. It was never founded on biblical truth. It is a false religious works based system that denies grace. It teaches submission to a man in place of willing submission to God in Christ, it teaches submission to the Catholic ‘church’, observance of ceremonies & rituals, transubstantiation which is a denial of the Atonement, Mary worship which is a denial of the Lordship of Christ, the performance of a works-based religious system over repentance & faith in Christ Alone for salvation.
Never was right, never will be.
Wow care to throw out any other false and misleading statements about what the Church believes, maybe start out by asking how someone could possibly be saved from 33AD until about 397AD when the canon of the Bible was agreed to? Maybe it's because the Church isn't founded on the Bible but on Christ who didn't tell his followers to go write a book but instead said go make disciples and baptize them...
@@TheDjcarter1966 don’t know The Lord do you?
Every Word of God is true & accurate according to Psalm 119.
Christ Himself stated I Am The Living Word in the Gospel of John.
Multiple direct references to the written Word in Ps 119 & many other psalms.
Luke 1 Luke The Doctor’s introductory statement of how he was commissioner of God to write his Gospel.
2 Timothy letter states every Word of God is accurate & useful for the teaching of the believer.
Revelation 21 states that whoever adds or takes away from ( as you’re doing ) to this BOOK is guilty of anathema.
So plentiful evidence that God directed man to write His Words.
If you knew your Bible, you’d be able to answer your own question about how did people get saved from 33AD.
The exact same way every person everywhere has been saved since before & after Christ, by having the faith of Moses & Abraham who believed in the promise of Christ The Redeemer.
And from Christ’s day, His preaching of Himself as The Word made flesh.
Christ Jesus did not appoint His followers to go make disciples of all men, He appointed them to go tell sinners that only by faith in His substitutionary atonement can a man be made righteous with God.
Obviously, you subscribe to a false religious system that has no foundation on Truth.
Todd, the “infinite regress” was one of the main realizations that contributed to my realization that RCC was a false religion.
The infinite regress argument simply doesn't hold up. The Catholic Church claims that Mary's immaculate conception owes to a singular grace given by God and flowing from the merits of Christ's saving death on the cross. In other words, she still needed a redeemer, it just so happens that she was redeemed from the very moment of her conception. This might sound strange (so is the idea that God became a baby), but God is not bound by time.
The church has never taught that Mary had to be conceived without sin. Her mother Ann was not- this regress issue is a made-up argument.
Yeah the immaculate conception is not a matter of necessity so infinite regress doesn’t apply
@@tonywallens217 not a matter necessity?
@@tonywallens217 the catholic church has never argued from a position of necessity- but that it was fitting so not sure of your position
I am actually a catholic....and am happy you actually shared more information about the catholic church ,which has made me known more about my church...it is really helpful and it will really help me grow my catholic Christian faith...once again thanks for the information about my church. God really used you, without you knowing to teach me more about the catholic church history. 😁🤝
@@TradMommy keep praying dear ...i need your prayers 🙏...God will bless me more and my faith .I will also keep praying for you
So happy to see your eyes have been opened to the falsehoods and misteachings of the Catholic Church.
@@KingKongbabe from birth.....it pains you 😂😂😂....
@@KingKongbabe well God bless you by the way , i wasn't taught to judge anyone
@@user-999shit Well that’s a problem then isn’t it. We are supposed to judge everything except a person’s salvation. One would think that now that you have been enlightened you would be smart enough to join a real church. Some people will never get it. You buy them books & teach them to read and what do they do? Chew on the bindings.
I would really like to hear your thoughts on the Shroud of Turin as a relic of the Resurrection.
Origen was anything but a heretic.. He was the father who stamped out multiple gnostic heresies in his time and helped establish the doctrine of the Trinity. He is Orthodox no doubt, without him we wouldn’t have the understanding of the theology on the Trinity and countless other early biblical commentaries
I’m (proudly) Catholic but am very open to dialogue with other Christian denominations. (In fact, many of my dearest friends are not Catholic yet we have very engaging discussion/debate about these topics in the hopes of pursuing Truth.). This video was just awfully bad. Literally every number Todd brought up is simply not what we believe. It actually reveals a sad ignorance about someone whose channel I have long followed and enjoyed. Anyway, I mean no disrespect but Todd truly revealed his lack of understanding regarding the Catholic faith.
Your study of history is severely lacking
I left the Catholic Church this past year. I am a very happy born again Christian!
It is inaccurate to say that members of the Catholic Church are not born again
Go back to the Church Jesus founded, my friend!
you must be sad for that. at least come to orthodoxy. dont go to born again. it is satanic....
@@finncollins5696 being born again is satanic? I have never heard anyone say this. Please tell me how you have come to this conclusion.
This is great! Thank you!
thanks for this video. I had no idea of this timelines.. says a lot of catholic church..
it was very clarifying. you got a new follower
The RCC, if they could get away with it, would love to have the Catholic Bible begin with: "In the beginning Mary created the heaven and the earth."