i seriously think youd love the marvel Spiderman ps4 's storyline , you can check out the cut scenes, it explores peter and octo's relationship as they both work on those arms
Its cool that the fusion reactor he was making is just basically the arc reactor from the mcu, so in the raimi universe he was the first person to design that technology and not Tony
0:17 I love how out of all the people who laughed at the joke, Peter laughs the most, it shows that he is not only a big geek, but that he also really looks up to Dr Octavius
Otto didn't deserve what came to him, he was a brilliant scientist and he had a good heart, he loved his wife and had loads of respect for Peter. Losing someone you love and everything you ever worked for at the same time in the snap of a finger, drove him to insanity.
@UFCHEAD I totally see your standpoint, but if you look at Otto before this experiment, it seemed like he was just a very passionate man for science. His dinner with Peter was sincere and pure, and in this scene as well the way he looked at his wife when she walked up to him really hits hard. It wasn't a look of "I am the best scientist, leave me woman!" but more of a look of being so grateful to have a beautiful wife and to get to show his work the way he dreamed of doing. Im sure he didn't know that it was going to malfunction, and just imagine how he felt after seeing his dead wife who supported his every move, and all of his work destroyed into millions of pieces.
The MCU appreciated the mechanical arms of Sam Raimi's Doc Ock that they didn't bother to create another one and neither replacing Alfred Molina as Doc ock.. that's how Magnificent Spiderman 2 is.
Raimi's movies full of this kind of mistakes. Like when in Spide-man 3 Parker appears at the tower to save his girl, the whole crowd turns around and before they could even see Spider-man they start cheering and everything. It is so fucking dumb I can't watch it and take it seriously.
And apparently the selling point on the tentacles was their resistance to heat and magnetism. Meanwhile, Octavius is standing 3 feet away from the aforementioned hot, magnetic fusion reaction.
@John Smith imagine initiating the reaction. Even if I could do it in my basement the electric bill would be enough to send me to jail. And we don't do a "fusion" nuclear reaction, "fission" is what those uranium were made for. A quote on quote " inefficient fusion reactor" would be enough to kill you and your neighborhood in seconds ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ ＼(ﾟｰﾟ＼) We only learn about the fission reaction and the energy output like 92 235 U + n= 92 236 U then it breakdown into smaller thing like K and stuffs( it's been years so correct me if I'm wrong) Please tell me, how can you do a controllable fusion reaction when it's "the technology of the future"? Yes, it occurs naturally, ON THE SUN, or collapsing stars. Because normally atoms push each other far away cuz the charge in the core like magnets, so it can be done on atoms with low charge and heavy(?) in perspective like Deuterium and Tritium. Usually the extra neutron after the reaction serves as the energy release, where e=mc2 actually explains why mass related to energy in an understandable way. I'm actually pissed when you say something along the line of "it isn't dangerous". Of course it is! Even if this is just some random comment on RUclips dangerous things are dangerous you should never joke about it, no matter how harmless it seem. At least in my opinion.
Also, it’s crazy to think that Otto’s fall doesn’t begin when the arms fuse to him, but when he’s too proud of the achievement to think about the danger he’s putting others in
He was the Icarus of science. Venturing too close to reach the pinnacle of scientific achieve while losing the respect of the sheer raw power that nature can unleash upon him at a moments notice. The sun have us in the palm of its hand.
how does he take off that shirt tho, does he pull off the arms? cuz if so, then now he has a bunch of holes in his back directly into his spine, infection go brr
And it’s because of that, his wife is dead, and he became a supervillain. If he just let Spider-Man pull the plug in his first attempt, Instead of trying to stop him, His wife would not only be alive, but he wouldn’t have turned into the super villain, “Doctor Octopus”
Otto is excellently portrayed in this film. A great archetypal genius. There are some great comments on this video about what Otto could have done had the sun not exploded or had he simply applied the arm technology to other fields. Octavius is brilliant, but had he curbed his ambition and put the sun project on the back burner (temporarily), he could have specialized the arm tech, and would still be a highly respected scientist. What’s tragic about the character is his motivations are truly good and benevolent on the outset, but in the moment of the reactor firing up, he has a moment of hubris with “The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand” line. Then struck by tragedy, losing his wife, his life’s work ruined and melded with AI mechanical arms, he plunges into darkness.
Well, time waits for no one, maybe he had a deadline, like Norman, who was losing his company, and needed to try the formula on himself...if people had infinite time to achieve something, there would be no mistakes and no villains.
@@edvinparmeza1298 I don’t think Otto was on a deadline. I think he was just a hurry to finally make his life’s dream a reality. It’s the opposite of Norman’s situation where it was more desperate and pressed for time.
Doc Ock just revolutionized the medical field with those metal arms. They could be a form of prosthetic or bio enhancement, and updated, more precise versions of the arms could be used in complex surgery. They might even be useful in waste disposal or construction, with the right alterations to the extremities. But let's focus on the sun thing.
@@seanfinity3689 if it was Venom, instead, I’d understand. But if you are going to do some Spider-smut, at least be realistic! Nobody wants to be touched by sharp metal claws with blades that can kill you dead!
Only plot hole I have to bring up is that the tentacles would probably weigh several hundred pounds. He wouldnt be walking on his two feet like he just put on a backpack
The "clink clink" metallic sound of the tentacles rising up and opening their tripods for the first time was surreal... I could literally feel them before me.
Sometimes I like to stop the video right at 4:00 and pretend the fusion reaction remains stable, Harry finally feels validated and successful in his father's job, Otto gets full credit and continues adoring his loving wife and Peter just keeps vibing being happy for everyone.
Is it just me, or is this still the best rendition of Dr Octupus' tentacles. Say what you want about Green Goblin and Venom's character designs, but this is the best Doc Ock has ever looked.
The crazy thing is that this demonstration shows the kind of genius Otto was. He presented two DIFFERENT inventions that had the potential to change the scientific field extremely. A near perfect link between man and machine as well as a cheap, renewable, and clean energy source that had the potential to essentially change the world. Both would completely alter any scientific developments moving forward of how to incorporate what he invented. Like how do we use his energy source to power cars for instance and basically everything else powered by fossil fuels to eliminate a huge bulk of pollution? How do we make all of our technology more efficient by having one person connected to the systems run everything rather than an entire team while making it better and faster than the work of a team? Either would be a generation defining inventions and he was going to introduce TWO! Hahaha he used the first one to help in his demonstration for the second! Someone who would invent either of those would be considered one of if not the smartest man of all-time. He didn't just invent both, he invented them simultaneously! Bro was multitasking with possibly two of the greatest inventions. It didn't work out but if it did. I would hate to compete for a job with people in the MCU. When you're smart in that universe it's a different kind of smart haha.
Fun fact! In the original script of this movie, Otto was going to also thank Stark Tech for creating the arms for him. They didn't want people to start asking a bunch of questions, because they didn't have any intention of brining iron man into these movies anyways
All they needed was a throw-away line like "We're going to sell Fusion first, then those arm thingy's." Or "the arms are still being approved by the patent office". Boom, all ya need.
I love Peter's senses going haywire when the paperclip starts moving. Then he's like "oh shit" when the lamps an lights start getting pulled. And then we're like "oh shit"
This is really a great exposition to how Dr. Oct's arms work. It doesn't hold the viewer's hands, it puts us as one of the people in the crowd who are learning for the first time, immersing us into the story instead of drawing attention away from it.
this scene shows how insane Doc Ock was because he conduct a dangerous experiment in an expose environment, open to reporters. it should have been done with reporters behind protective walls.
@@YR2050 No, Dock Ock really was overconfident to the point of being insane. He yells that he can stabilize the machine even when things are going to shit, and even physically attacks Spider Man to stop him from turning the machine off.
@@delsonlai2180 I know what you mean, but I think Alfred Molina felt quite heroïc here. It's that fine line between being human and becoming meta with a touch of evil blending with that feeling of increased power!
It’s just crazy rewatching this film after No Way Home (and the MCU for the matter) and realizing that Octavius’ sun machine is ultimately a prototype arc reactor that Tony Stark would perfect in a cave no less.
I never noticed that the two bottom tentacles had a second internal set of broader claw. I always knew they existed, however I thought it was just a continuity error when in some scenes they were traditional claw tentacles then in other scenes the broader design. The scene here where Otto first activates his tentacles shows perfectly how the two sets of claws integrate into each other, and in the countless times I've watched this movie I've only now noticed it.
I swear to God, this was the only time that I've believed in Science Fiction. No suspension of disbelief required. Wall-to-wall outstanding moviemaking.
Not for me unfortunately:/ Doc was the only one wearing UV protection, but the rest of his body is exposed. And a fusion experiment was done in his apartment. Like bruh.
@@Cosmopavone Just because a film has one ridiculous premise, doesn't mean that nothing should make sense. Edit: What I meant was, in this one scene, Dr. Octavius built all of the following technology, seemingly by himself in a small Manhattan apartment (not in some huge lab/warehouse with a large crew of people): * Working Fusion reactor - in real life, fusion reactors for experiments cost about $50,000,000,000 and require teams of scientists. * huge robotic arms that have no power source * artificial intelligence, kind of like Neuralink, but way more advanced * an “inhibitor chip” that doesn’t have an electronic failsafe/killswitch Quite impressive, then he just turns to a life of crime and bank robbery instead of trying to do experiments better the next time, perhaps in a safe/controlled laboratory environment.
Fun fact about tritium: while it’s very rare in nature, man made tritium is mostly used in pistol sights because it glows better in low light than uv reactive paints and doesn’t need to be “charged”, it’s also a byproduct in nuclear reactors that use water cooling because of the hydrogen in water molecules. However it’s not a fuel in reactors like the scene suggests
Actualy, together with deuterium, tritium can be used as a nuclear fusion fuel. Still, nuclear fusion is still not profitable, but its already proven in tests. This scene represents what is today trying to be achived with the ITER proyect and create nuclear fusion reaction with a positive outcome of energy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium%E2%80%93tritium_fusion
@@bluefenix5304 thank you for pointing out that, regardless of the claims, it is still not profitable. The energy used to maintain the reaction is higher that the one produced.
@@nicholasduncan7424 and I said said "thank you for pointing that out" It was supposed to be a praise, not an addition to his comment. In the second part I added a little detail for those wondering why it is not profitable.
Imagine the money that Harry and Otto could make if they focused on prosthetics instead. (And yes I know this is what Otto did in the PS4 game but this version of him can clearly create better ones.)
Do you see how the joke is actually a perfect foreshadowing device: He asks if anyone lost a roll of cash, because he found the rubber bands. This is exactly the same as this presentation. People came for the fusion reaction, but what they got was the side-show, the thing meant to keep the fusion reactor together (like a rubber band!), the eight arms of doom!
They conducted a nuclear fusion reaction...in a studio apartment in New York. Nothing can go wrong here. Plus I just love the fact he wears goggles to protect his sight and builds mechanical arms to protect himself from the machine, but everyone else is fine.
True, but according to one guy leaving the apartment after the experiment if Otto had added more than a drop of tritium as opposed to the amount he had then he could have destroyed the city. Harry also has a line later on that more tritium will destroy the city.
One of my favorite superhero movies. I love how Harry is ungrateful and still hates Spider-Man for saving his life because James Franco brings such life to the character.
There were SO many safety issues with the experiment. Octavius and Harry should have caught them. 1. It doesn't take place in a real laboratory, but in an improvised lab in what appears to be an old warehouse or big attic. The metal-framed glass windows were a safety hazard, and it killed Rosie. 2. There's no kill switch. Every dangerous experiment should have at least one of those, marked by a big red button, possibly several. 3. There's no barrier between the fusion reaction and the audience. 4. Octavius didn't warn anyone about any possible risks, such as a magnetic field pulling things in.
I know! Harry is so filthy rich he could procure enough tritium for the experiment, but couldn’t have financed a proper nuclear lab? Not even some flimsy concrete radiation shielding, just a pair of goggles for Otto while everyone else is watching with the naked eye? Not to mention, this is all happening in ambient air with zero cover from the sides. That air is absorbing some of those lasers or whatever beam those are, and the various movements within the room is generating tiny breezes. Makes two unpredictable variables, interfering with both the efficiency of the fusion and the accuracy of all kinds of measurements.
0:17 I like that Harry is the only one who doesn't laugh either because he's still depressed for the death of his father or he, as a business man, is too anxious for the results
When I was younger I thought this scene was wicked cool... creating a sun like that. Now that I'm older I realize how stupid it was to test a nuclear fusion reaction in the middle of a city. hahha.
2:00- "Dr, if the artificial intelligence in the arms is as..." Doctor Octagnapus: "Wait who said anything about them having AI. What's in that book you're holding, is that the script?"
I never thought I was, we were all, going get to experience Alfred Molina and William Dafoe play these characters on the big screen again. I can’t wait!
Honestly the best spiderman movie up to date!..I don't care fight me!!..the action the story line. The quotes it made it really a classic!. Love alfred can't wait to see him on no way home... The train scene alone beats out everyday other movie lol. Such a cinematic masterpiece
Fun fact: In the novelization of this movie, it was actually Henry Pym asking this question. It was also mentioned that he had already made his Ant-Man helmet and the Pym particles.
You could tell that the tech was actually the thing that would soon have almost gained full control over his brain and that really gives me goosebumps still to this day
"The power of the sun in the palm of my hands." Dr. Octavius must be so proud of Tony Stark's achievement of fulfilling his dream without the risk of destroying the entire NYC.
Without the whole tritium sun disaster thing, those arms alone are impressive enough.
i seriously think youd love the marvel Spiderman ps4 's storyline , you can check out the cut scenes, it explores peter and octo's relationship as they both work on those arms
Correct and everyone took that for granted
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Because Dr Otto is more like a scientist than engineer. He's trying to make a free powerful energy just like what Tesla did back in the days
It wasn’t just a sun it was renewable infinite energy
Octo: “The power of the Sun...”
Spidey: “...In the palm of your hands.”
Ye
ahhhh rossie i love this boy
Its cool that the fusion reactor he was making is just basically the arc reactor from the mcu, so in the raimi universe he was the first person to design that technology and not Tony
Yeah
Had me in tears. That movie made me feel like I'm 6 again.
Harry: “I’m in charge here!”
Doc places a tentacle on his cheek: “do you feel in charge?”
Harry: "I paid you a small fortune!"
@@Nurgles_Rot_ Doc: “And this gives you power over me?”
Hehe..pirates of..
"Your tritium and your money were useful..... until now"
"The man who says he is in charge, is not truly in charge."
Just as Robert Downey Jr. was born to play Tony Stark, Alfred Molina was born to play Doctor Octopus.
So true. Because of this movie, whenever I read any Spider-Man comic with Doc Ock, I automatically imagine Molina's voice for him as I read his lines
He is truly the rightful choice to play this wonderful character.
True in that both of them built their version of an arc reactor.
How right you are
Fantastic casting
0:17 I love how out of all the people who laughed at the joke, Peter laughs the most, it shows that he is not only a big geek, but that he also really looks up to Dr Octavius
Of course. He’s like a father-figure to him, just as much as Uncle Ben was.
And he also struggles with money,so he would definitely take a roll of 20s if he found one.
The funny part is Harry doesnt get it
@@theshinythunderclappokemon5830 no he wasn’t
It wasn't in the script, he improvised it, that's why they looked confused.
Otto didn't deserve what came to him, he was a brilliant scientist and he had a good heart, he loved his wife and had loads of respect for Peter. Losing someone you love and everything you ever worked for at the same time in the snap of a finger, drove him to insanity.
@UFCHEAD I totally see your standpoint, but if you look at Otto before this experiment, it seemed like he was just a very passionate man for science. His dinner with Peter was sincere and pure, and in this scene as well the way he looked at his wife when she walked up to him really hits hard. It wasn't a look of "I am the best scientist, leave me woman!" but more of a look of being so grateful to have a beautiful wife and to get to show his work the way he dreamed of doing.
Im sure he didn't know that it was going to malfunction, and just imagine how he felt after seeing his dead wife who supported his every move, and all of his work destroyed into millions of pieces.
Its true but life doesnt work that way and never has for anybody.
And the loss of mental control over AI
@UFCHEAD he wanted nothing but sustainable energy for the world for free
Petrol companies would be loosing their shit about this!
Twist: petrol company’s hired someone to sabotage the experiment leading to the accident.
The MCU appreciated the mechanical arms of Sam Raimi's Doc Ock that they didn't bother to create another one and neither replacing Alfred Molina as Doc ock.. that's how Magnificent Spiderman 2 is.
True, but in NWH his arms will be CGI, instead of actual puppet, like it was in 2004.
@@ДенЧернов-ы5м No, they're using a mix of practical and cgi
@@BrownSpidey2099 can’t wait to see behind the scenes of no way home
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@@BrownSpidey2099 that's not true, SM2 used mix of practical and cgi, but NWH is fully cgi.
I love how everyone winced when the pins went into his spine but his back was facing away from everyone so they couldn't see it.
I think of this every time.
Raimi's movies full of this kind of mistakes. Like when in Spide-man 3 Parker appears at the tower to save his girl, the whole crowd turns around and before they could even see Spider-man they start cheering and everything. It is so fucking dumb I can't watch it and take it seriously.
@@arnoldnemeth8578 Those are absurdly small flaws to give a fuck. This trilogy was a classic.
@@arnoldnemeth8578 Or when he's swinging with Mary Jane and her hair is blowing the wrong way.
you know as a kid I always wonder how the fuck they saw that
I love how they're demonstrating a nuclear fusion in the middle of the town, with no protection whatsoever
Doc ock wore sunglasses
@@fromis.9 And the others didn’t even though it probably would’ve damaged their eyes as well if Otto’s would’ve been without the goggles.
@John Smith sure you can. Maybe stop watching so many movies. 🤣🤣
And apparently the selling point on the tentacles was their resistance to heat and magnetism. Meanwhile, Octavius is standing 3 feet away from the aforementioned hot, magnetic fusion reaction.
@John Smith imagine initiating the reaction. Even if I could do it in my basement the electric bill would be enough to send me to jail. And we don't do a "fusion" nuclear reaction, "fission" is what those uranium were made for. A quote on quote " inefficient fusion reactor" would be enough to kill you and your neighborhood in seconds ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ ＼(ﾟｰﾟ＼)
We only learn about the fission reaction and the energy output like 92 235 U + n= 92 236 U then it breakdown into smaller thing like K and stuffs( it's been years so correct me if I'm wrong)
Please tell me, how can you do a controllable fusion reaction when it's "the technology of the future"? Yes, it occurs naturally, ON THE SUN, or collapsing stars. Because normally atoms push each other far away cuz the charge in the core like magnets, so it can be done on atoms with low charge and heavy(?) in perspective like Deuterium and Tritium. Usually the extra neutron after the reaction serves as the energy release, where e=mc2 actually explains why mass related to energy in an understandable way.
I'm actually pissed when you say something along the line of "it isn't dangerous". Of course it is! Even if this is just some random comment on RUclips dangerous things are dangerous you should never joke about it, no matter how harmless it seem. At least in my opinion.
Also, it’s crazy to think that Otto’s fall doesn’t begin when the arms fuse to him, but when he’s too proud of the achievement to think about the danger he’s putting others in
He was the Icarus of science. Venturing too close to reach the pinnacle of scientific achieve while losing the respect of the sheer raw power that nature can unleash upon him at a moments notice.
The sun have us in the palm of its hand.
how does he take off that shirt tho, does he pull off the arms? cuz if so, then now he has a bunch of holes in his back directly into his spine, infection go brr
@@LevSeven_ he probably either just kept it on or cut it
@@LevSeven_ i think the doctors took it off him because after the scene in the hospital he is shirtless
And it’s because of that, his wife is dead, and he became a supervillain. If he just let Spider-Man pull the plug in his first attempt, Instead of trying to stop him, His wife would not only be alive, but he wouldn’t have turned into the super villain, “Doctor Octopus”
"Ladies and Gentleman! Fasten your seatbelts." This line always gives me goosebumps.
"Ladies and Gentleman, im gonna blow up the city". YTP pizza time
Crazy that Pendulum used the voice clip in their song of the same name.
@@WeasleFireable An iconic line, for an iconic band.
Imagine Nick Fury saying “Hold on to your butts.”
It would've been better if he said "And hold on to your hats" after the fasten your seatbelts.
Otto is excellently portrayed in this film. A great archetypal genius. There are some great comments on this video about what Otto could have done had the sun not exploded or had he simply applied the arm technology to other fields.
Octavius is brilliant, but had he curbed his ambition and put the sun project on the back burner (temporarily), he could have specialized the arm tech, and would still be a highly respected scientist.
What’s tragic about the character is his motivations are truly good and benevolent on the outset, but in the moment of the reactor firing up, he has a moment of hubris with “The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand” line. Then struck by tragedy, losing his wife, his life’s work ruined and melded with AI mechanical arms, he plunges into darkness.
Well, time waits for no one, maybe he had a deadline, like Norman, who was losing his company, and needed to try the formula on himself...if people had infinite time to achieve something, there would be no mistakes and no villains.
@@edvinparmeza1298 deep...
@@edvinparmeza1298 I don’t think Otto was on a deadline. I think he was just a hurry to finally make his life’s dream a reality. It’s the opposite of Norman’s situation where it was more desperate and pressed for time.
he isn't a genius nor brilliant.
basic physics would completely outrule doing this so close to people standing next to it.
Doc Ock just revolutionized the medical field with those metal arms. They could be a form of prosthetic or bio enhancement, and updated, more precise versions of the arms could be used in complex surgery. They might even be useful in waste disposal or construction, with the right alterations to the extremities.
But let's focus on the sun thing.
they actually made that part of the plot in spider-man ps4
@@kaelang12 but it feels like the arms from the PS4 arms are not smart like the ones here
I read a story written with exactly this idea in mind on WritingPrompts subreddit.
The sun thing could provide clean renewable power for the world. Why wouldn’t something like that be a big deal?
But Harry Osbourne is IN CHARGE HERE
3:02 Wife: "You know for what else we can use those tentacle arms"
Him: "I know"
💀
Those arms are metallic and rough. The skin alone can shred anybody like cheese, so it doesn’t really work
Ouch.
@@seanfinity3689 if it was Venom,
instead, I’d understand.
But if you are going to do some Spider-smut, at least be realistic! Nobody wants to be touched by sharp metal claws with blades that can kill you dead!
Only plot hole I have to bring up is that the tentacles would probably weigh several hundred pounds. He wouldnt be walking on his two feet like he just put on a backpack
Vibranium
Molina Core Program
What about a power source for these arms? Duracell battery?
@@Bezi9393 I give this a AAA/10
@@bedrantje Absolutely not vibranium
As a child the first time watching this the moment the tentacles started rising up I got chills
The "clink clink" metallic sound of the tentacles rising up and opening their tripods for the first time was surreal... I could literally feel them before me.
As a child first watching this and as a grown man rewatching this I still get chills.
Same here. Once those arms became self aware, I knew we were screwed lol. They scared the hell out of me
@@Mystical.Spirit yeah
The best spider man series of all time .. nothing can replace this trilogy 😍
NOTHING!
Unquestionably
The trilogy managed to stop the trilogy.
It never even comes close to batman trilogy batman trilogy is way better but spiderman is good saying about trilogy
@@aquaics6808 bruh DC suck ass. I used to admire DC when I was young , now DC seems crappy to me.
The worst part about this scene is that right before he pulled the plug it really did look like it stabilized itself
Yeah, but Rosie was already dead and Otto’s chip had been fried.
@@antoniovasquez9946 exactly!
It did?
If they had conducted this in a proper facility and not in some random building then it would have succeeded.
@@dragunaut. Would it? The reactor was shit here, and it would also be shit somewhere else, wouldn’t it?
The sound of Octavius’ machine in the movie theater was unreal. Gave me goosebumps
3:38 this clapping of Harry always cracks me up, I don't know why 🤣
Family Feud Bully Mguire meme
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I don't know what was that
I wasn't ready for that i clicked and i relieved the comment lmao hahaahah
Its his face
0:17 Tobert's dorky laugh here cements him as the best Spider-Man
Molina as Doc Ock was perfect.
You are right about that my Friend!😊
He captivated him well....I was hoping for him to have the accent like in the cartoon but how he portrayed him was well done
I've always loved that monitor behind Otto when he's explaining the chip, starting at 2:04
Sometimes I like to stop the video right at 4:00 and pretend the fusion reaction remains stable, Harry finally feels validated and successful in his father's job, Otto gets full credit and continues adoring his loving wife and Peter just keeps vibing being happy for everyone.
Is it just me, or is this still the best rendition of Dr Octupus' tentacles. Say what you want about Green Goblin and Venom's character designs, but this is the best Doc Ock has ever looked.
It's because the arms are mostly done with puppets. It took a crazy amount of work and people to make them move.
The crazy thing is that this demonstration shows the kind of genius Otto was. He presented two DIFFERENT inventions that had the potential to change the scientific field extremely. A near perfect link between man and machine as well as a cheap, renewable, and clean energy source that had the potential to essentially change the world. Both would completely alter any scientific developments moving forward of how to incorporate what he invented. Like how do we use his energy source to power cars for instance and basically everything else powered by fossil fuels to eliminate a huge bulk of pollution? How do we make all of our technology more efficient by having one person connected to the systems run everything rather than an entire team while making it better and faster than the work of a team? Either would be a generation defining inventions and he was going to introduce TWO! Hahaha he used the first one to help in his demonstration for the second!
Someone who would invent either of those would be considered one of if not the smartest man of all-time. He didn't just invent both, he invented them simultaneously! Bro was multitasking with possibly two of the greatest inventions. It didn't work out but if it did. I would hate to compete for a job with people in the MCU. When you're smart in that universe it's a different kind of smart haha.
Fun fact! In the original script of this movie, Otto was going to also thank Stark Tech for creating the arms for him. They didn't want people to start asking a bunch of questions, because they didn't have any intention of brining iron man into these movies anyways
@@adabofeverything7120 in the spiderman 2 book, he used stark tech
It's hilarious that he stops at nothing to create a renewable energy source.
All they needed was a throw-away line like "We're going to sell Fusion first, then those arm thingy's." Or "the arms are still being approved by the patent office". Boom, all ya need.
Elon actually currently working on it, its even called "Neural Link" ffs xD
Honestly, spider-man 2 is the greatest spider movie of all time In my opinion 😆
The Sam Raimi trilogy is awesome also Marc Webb's films weren't bad either
The sam raimi trilogy is the best forever
Better than homecoming that's for sure
Absolutely agree
@@anthonyhenderson2804 fact
Dude creates an entire star in his house as an experiment and invites people over like it's just a little get together.
One of the greatest castings ever. Alfred Molina knocked it out of the park
Otto: *Casually creates artificial intelligence capable of fusing with the human mind.*
Also Otto: "Looky, a battery thingy."
I love Peter's senses going haywire when the paperclip starts moving. Then he's like "oh shit" when the lamps an lights start getting pulled. And then we're like "oh shit"
Goddamn I forgot how beautiful this movie is. The cinematography is off the charts
This is cinema. A true masterpiece. The MCU hasn’t had too many movies like this.
There are so many plot holes in this scene alone. Stfu.
If the MCU wasn't owned by Disney, we'd get more films like this one. Marvel should've stayed its own entity.
5:06
I love how damn casual doc oc is to spiderman, basically like "what's good man!? What are you doing"
I mean, he was so focused on the fusion reaction, what else would he say if somebody (even Spider-Man) interfered with it?
@@ringyring distracted or not, he's so chill
@@FlippyEveryDay Until he hit him... Lol
@@johnmichael4806 "NOOOO"
This is really a great exposition to how Dr. Oct's arms work. It doesn't hold the viewer's hands, it puts us as one of the people in the crowd who are learning for the first time, immersing us into the story instead of drawing attention away from it.
Still the best ever Spider-Man film.
spider man no way home is better
@@sagi_2007 no, it's good but far from the first trilogy
agree
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@@sagi_2007 No, Spiderman 1 and 2 are both better than No Way Home.
I love how different Peter and Harry’s reactions are to Otto’s rubber band joke.
Peter: “That’s hilarious!”
Harry: “Uh, I guess 🫤”
this scene shows how insane Doc Ock was because he conduct a dangerous experiment in an expose environment, open to reporters. it should have been done with reporters behind protective walls.
No, this scene shows how stupid the movie writer was.
@@YR2050 No, Dock Ock really was overconfident to the point of being insane. He yells that he can stabilize the machine even when things are going to shit, and even physically attacks Spider Man to stop him from turning the machine off.
@@austinjohnsen4430 Overconfidence and ego. Those traits of his were the real villain. The arms simply enhanced his traits.
But he said FASTEN YOUR SITBELT.
Bro what
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand!!! - That still gives me chills to this day!!!
This 6 min clip is far better than many today's films
The dramatic/heroic music at 2:21 is giving me Hellraiser II vibes. Impending doom at its finest, love it!
Personally for me the music theme was more like dramatic evil genius or epic breathtaking sci-fi view, no heroic vibes at all...
@@delsonlai2180 I know what you mean, but I think Alfred Molina felt quite heroïc here. It's that fine line between being human and becoming meta with a touch of evil blending with that feeling of increased power!
I decided to re-watch all the SpiderMan movies after No Way Home and i gotta say i enjoyed this one the most!!!
we found the rubber band
Yeah it has always been the best
The small zoom at 1:10 into the reactions of the crowd is such a nice little shot
the fact that it was in a house and everyone was just chilling with no protection while a star was created is beyond me.
It’s just crazy rewatching this film after No Way Home (and the MCU for the matter) and realizing that Octavius’ sun machine is ultimately a prototype arc reactor that Tony Stark would perfect in a cave no less.
…“with a box of scraps!!!” (!!!). No less. 😏
04:41 - me at 04:40am, when i realise i forgot an assignment thats due in 3 hours
Poor Otto.
In what should be the greatest day of his life and most important moment in his career he lost everything.
Including his wife.
And his watch
@@sarahbostrom9358Because Dr Octavius was stubborn that made him lose everything
3:08 SO THATS WHERE PENDULUM GOT THE AUDIO FROM!
Wow
I never noticed that the two bottom tentacles had a second internal set of broader claw. I always knew they existed, however I thought it was just a continuity error when in some scenes they were traditional claw tentacles then in other scenes the broader design. The scene here where Otto first activates his tentacles shows perfectly how the two sets of claws integrate into each other, and in the countless times I've watched this movie I've only now noticed it.
Otto: The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand
Meanwhile on another Earth
Dr.Conners: The power of the hand, in the palm of my hand…
I swear to God, this was the only time that I've believed in Science Fiction. No suspension of disbelief required. Wall-to-wall outstanding moviemaking.
Not for me unfortunately:/ Doc was the only one wearing UV protection, but the rest of his body is exposed. And a fusion experiment was done in his apartment. Like bruh.
Still an amazing scene tho
@airlockengage Lol, the fact that some people seeks logic in a movie about a boy who got superpowers because he was bitten by a spider it's so funny
@@Cosmopavone Just because a film has one ridiculous premise, doesn't mean that nothing should make sense.
Edit: What I meant was, in this one scene, Dr. Octavius built all of the following technology, seemingly by himself in a small Manhattan apartment (not in some huge lab/warehouse with a large crew of people):
* Working Fusion reactor - in real life, fusion reactors for experiments cost about $50,000,000,000 and require teams of scientists.
* huge robotic arms that have no power source
* artificial intelligence, kind of like Neuralink, but way more advanced
* an “inhibitor chip” that doesn’t have an electronic failsafe/killswitch
Quite impressive, then he just turns to a life of crime and bank robbery instead of trying to do experiments better the next time, perhaps in a safe/controlled laboratory environment.
Fun fact about tritium: while it’s very rare in nature, man made tritium is mostly used in pistol sights because it glows better in low light than uv reactive paints and doesn’t need to be “charged”, it’s also a byproduct in nuclear reactors that use water cooling because of the hydrogen in water molecules. However it’s not a fuel in reactors like the scene suggests
Actualy, together with deuterium, tritium can be used as a nuclear fusion fuel. Still, nuclear fusion is still not profitable, but its already proven in tests.
This scene represents what is today trying to be achived with the ITER proyect and create nuclear fusion reaction with a positive outcome of energy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium%E2%80%93tritium_fusion
@@bluefenix5304 thank you for pointing out that, regardless of the claims, it is still not profitable.
The energy used to maintain the reaction is higher that the one produced.
@@StevenHuxley That's literally what he said...
@@nicholasduncan7424 and I said said "thank you for pointing that out"
It was supposed to be a praise, not an addition to his comment.
In the second part I added a little detail for those wondering why it is not profitable.
@@StevenHuxley the problem being that he already said the second part. You didn’t add anything.
Imagine the money that Harry and Otto could make if they focused on prosthetics instead. (And yes I know this is what Otto did in the PS4 game but this version of him can clearly create better ones.)
Dang that’s a bold claim. I don’t man those tentacles in the PS4 game look extremely strong. I honestly don’t know which one betters the other tho
Jesus loves you:)
@@papa-hoopa8515 they got destroyed so fast though, these arms are far superior.
@@papa-hoopa8515 the ones in ps4 can extend way further
@@MultiRocketGaming the ps4 ones also made you crazy.
alfred molina in this film is an oscar worthy performance. very few people have played a comic role with such passion and care as he did
Do you see how the joke is actually a perfect foreshadowing device: He asks if anyone lost a roll of cash, because he found the rubber bands. This is exactly the same as this presentation. People came for the fusion reaction, but what they got was the side-show, the thing meant to keep the fusion reactor together (like a rubber band!), the eight arms of doom!
17 YEARS LATER HE'S BACK YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH
They conducted a nuclear fusion reaction...in a studio apartment in New York. Nothing can go wrong here.
Plus I just love the fact he wears goggles to protect his sight and builds mechanical arms to protect himself from the machine, but everyone else is fine.
True, but according to one guy leaving the apartment after the experiment if Otto had added more than a drop of tritium as opposed to the amount he had then he could have destroyed the city. Harry also has a line later on that more tritium will destroy the city.
Because he was closest to it
There’s always little details I miss, like at 4:24 Otto is wearing a watch that flies off his arm
Damn dude. I've seen this movie like a 100 times and I never noticed that 😮
1:46 3 of the 4 arms already checking out Peter.
"Which is why I developed this inhibitor chip" and put it right here in a cheap plastic case, where it's definitely not going to get broken.
Also, Octavious controlling the arms instead of them controlling him is actually comic accurate.
This is the best Dr octopus character in decades and glad their bringing again one last time.
1:21 dude he is just freaking me out!!!!!
One of my favorite superhero movies. I love how Harry is ungrateful and still hates Spider-Man for saving his life because James Franco brings such life to the character.
There were SO many safety issues with the experiment. Octavius and Harry should have caught them.
1. It doesn't take place in a real laboratory, but in an improvised lab in what appears to be an old warehouse or big attic. The metal-framed glass windows were a safety hazard, and it killed Rosie.
2. There's no kill switch. Every dangerous experiment should have at least one of those, marked by a big red button, possibly several.
3. There's no barrier between the fusion reaction and the audience.
4. Octavius didn't warn anyone about any possible risks, such as a magnetic field pulling things in.
Bullshit
@@ocreyy Why? Everything I said is true.
I know! Harry is so filthy rich he could procure enough tritium for the experiment, but couldn’t have financed a proper nuclear lab? Not even some flimsy concrete radiation shielding, just a pair of goggles for Otto while everyone else is watching with the naked eye?
Not to mention, this is all happening in ambient air with zero cover from the sides. That air is absorbing some of those lasers or whatever beam those are, and the various movements within the room is generating tiny breezes.
Makes two unpredictable variables, interfering with both the efficiency of the fusion and the accuracy of all kinds of measurements.
He only realized it after he noticed the reactor started developing it's own gravity. In the middle of the demonstration.
4:56 Harry: IT’S MY MONEY, AND I NEED IT NOW!
~Runs to the window and bursts them open~
Harry: IT’S MY MONEY, AND I NEED IT NOW!
I love how Doc Ock is so matter of fact of one of the most impressive prosthetic displays ever made.
"The power of the sun"
"In the palm of your hands"
nowayhome watchers will understand
its was a powerful moment in the movie
If that experiment didn't go wrong it would've helped millions of people
Revisiting this after the fusion reaction was successful
Bruh Dr. Han was in this too? He is everywhere 😂😂😂😂😂
[fighting back tears] "IT WILL STABILISE! IT WILL STABILISE, DR. HAN!"
@@IAmTheStig32 😭😭😭😭
0:17 I like that Harry is the only one who doesn't laugh either because he's still depressed for the death of his father or he, as a business man, is too anxious for the results
And/or, he's rich enough that he doesn't know why finding a roll of $20s would be a huge deal.
3:55 I imagine that in the upcoming movie he’ll say “multiverse” instead of “sun”
The spot said that in spider verse though.
Personally my favorite bad-guy transformation in any superhero film. And one of the best superhero movies ever made.
When I was younger I thought this scene was wicked cool... creating a sun like that. Now that I'm older I realize how stupid it was to test a nuclear fusion reaction in the middle of a city. hahha.
In real world, first artificial nuclear fission reactor (Chicago Pile) was built in a football stadium.
The fact he thought it was okay to do something that he knew he couldn’t control is wild!
it was a good joke ngl
True 😂😂
Hi nice meeting you here
I like how it’s a nerd joke and Pete is the one who laughs the most.
"No human can withstand the environment" *everyone moves closer to the sun*
3:33 Dr Han would never allow something like this
This movie is a nostalgia that marked my childhood Tobey Maguire will always be the best Spider-Man of all time🕷️🕸️
Kinda fitting Otto’s assistant, Rayond would later become the live action Fire Lord Ozai on Avatar TLA.
You realise that tho
I like how supportive Harry is to Otto. It’s like they almost had the same friendship as Otto and peter
Of course Harry is supportive. He thinks Otto’s accomplishments are gonna make him filthy rich. He’s thinking more about himself here.
@@austinjohnsen4430 CEOs be like
The CGI ages sooooo well, it’s a shame new movies don’t age as well
What about avengers?
If they’re new movies, how do we know how they’ve aged yet? 🤨
Those arms alone is worth several Nobel prizes, this just shows the ambition of Otto
2:00- "Dr, if the artificial intelligence in the arms is as..."
Doctor Octagnapus: "Wait who said anything about them having AI. What's in that book you're holding, is that the script?"
The Rosie's death terrifies me even now.
She should’ve run
I never thought I was, we were all, going get to experience Alfred Molina and William Dafoe play these characters on the big screen again. I can’t wait!
Honestly the best spiderman movie up to date!..I don't care fight me!!..the action the story line. The quotes it made it really a classic!. Love alfred can't wait to see him on no way home...
The train scene alone beats out everyday other movie lol. Such a cinematic masterpiece
Ti àmo
yess
@@junedmujawar4735 what
I'm not going to argue with you on this one,
amigo. The best Spider-Man movie of all time.
Its common knowledge
Doc Ock's rubber band joke is a favorite ice breaker of mine!
“How right you are.” *smiles as if to a child*
Fun fact: In the novelization of this movie, it was actually Henry Pym asking this question. It was also mentioned that he had already made his Ant-Man helmet and the Pym particles.
You could tell that the tech was actually the thing that would soon have almost gained full control over his brain and that really gives me goosebumps still to this day
4:18 imagine is Peter's suit got sucked in?
Why would it? It’s not metal.
After letting Indiana Jones down in the rope department, Alfred Molina went on to score these nice gigs!
I laughs when he died in Indiana Jones as he deserves it
I cried when he sank into river as Otto can't wait for new spiderman
4:47 warning your homie about the dangers of pornography 😂😂😂
i miss those teenage times when we used to go to the movies and watch this this really brings me back to 2004
“This doesn’t change anything.”
You can tell in that brief pause Spidey’s thinking “…fuck you too!”
1:06 Stings doesn't it?
I get that you're meming.
But I think that would do more than just sting if I had that many needles into my back.
From his cerebellum and on his spine to hace successful connection@@jaredruff9823
"The power of the sun in the palm of my hands."
Dr. Octavius must be so proud of Tony Stark's achievement of fulfilling his dream without the risk of destroying the entire NYC.
The rubber band joke is most underrated joke ever
I love when doc oc told his joke and Peter laughed the most show how big of a fan he really is
These all characters are the pioneers of the new scientific enventions . 😊