I like how that lady was concerned with the arms controlling Otto but didn't care that they were going to do a nuclear fusion experiment in the same room they were standing in.
Which begs the question: why can't they make more bloodless comic book movies so that more kids can go see them?! Based on your response, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! 😂
@@slawton17 The term is for missing the point, not just a joke. Which you did. Or do you think you're actually informing someone that Spider-Man 2 is fake?
I don't necessarily agree on all of that, but no one can argue music. The Garfield films have some awful music in them, and MCU films might as well order their music off alibaba. It all sounds like complete dog ass.
I love how Doctor Octopus’s arms are basically their own separate entities. It actually reflects a lot to how a real life octopus’s body functions. Octopuses are absolutely fascinating! They are one of the smartest creatures on Earth, however their intelligence works very differently than that of most other creatures. Unlike vertebrates who have a highly centralized nervous system that is controlled entirely by a central brain, cephalopods (like the octopus) have multiple neuron clusters and ganglia throughout their body. These clusters mean the octopus basically has multiple brains (9 to be exact) that control each part of the body on their own. One cluster is the central dominant brain that receives most of the information gathered, while the other 8 control the arms and basically act as “mini brains” that can operate independently from the main central brain. This allows them to solve problems that are impossible for most other creatures. Otto designed his arms with the same purpose in mind, but unfortunately as we all know, it didn’t go as planned.
8:27 Holy sht i just noticed. When otto is control of the arms, the center lights are white. When the arms are in control, the center lights are red. You can confirm this by the end of the movie when he is talking to peter where otto regains control and the lights turn from red to white. So this means that otto for a brief second had control of the arms, before he lost control, turning the color into red and then attacked the guy.
8:25 Just like in No Way Home The bridge fight shows the center lights of the arms are red because the arms are in control But when Peter puts a new inhibitor chip to help Otto, the center lights turn white and Octavius claims the voices are gone meaning he is in control again
'i developed these 4 metal arms to let me build the fusion reactor. there was absolutely no way to control them remotely, they had to be plugged directly into my brain stem. I also had to program each one with a distinct AI personality. yes, this makes no sense to me either, but i am insane'
Don't think about it too hard. I'm sure there's a reason for it that some comic writer made up. Like when they made up Clark Kents hypnotic eyeglasses that prevent others from seeing him as looking like Superman.
Yeah but watch that scene (really this entire vid) again. Notice anything missing? Despite all the people getting killed, there is not ONE DROP of blood shown anywhere on screen, at any point. That's how you "kept things PG-13" in those days. No blood shown, or very little blood. The "darkness" of the arms slaughtering an entire surgical team was offset by the fact that there was ZERO blood shown, so it made the PG-13 cut.
@@johnnytyler5685 If only you knew how it was described in the novelization... Oh god. "Dead bodies, strewn all around him. Some practically torn open, with bodily secretions and excretions splattered about on the operating room floor." ...what the fu-
Best Spider Man movie. Definitely. Sam Raimi directed the best Spider Man movies. This one takes the prize. Love how he incorporated some horror type elements into the shots. Because he loves horror. Alfred Molina was brilliant in this. Perfect. My favorite Spider Man villain. So cool!
Sadly the 3rd raimi film I would say is bottom of the pile out of all Spiderman films to date. I would put them in this order. 1. Raimi Spiderman 2 2. Mcu no way home 3. Raimi Spiderman 4. Marc Webb's The amazing Spiderman 5. Mcu homecoming 6. Far from home 7. The amazing Spiderman 2 8. Raimis Spiderman 3. If were chucking into the spider verse in there, id put it at no.4, I haven't seen the sequel to it yet. I know you didn't ask for this rating but I was typing it and just carried on lol
@@drdoobie8445 the first amazing Spiderman was an ok film. Good enough to go forward with a sequel. It's the sequel that let it down. But one thing that is miles on top is Andrew Garfields acting. He was let down.
Pretty sure that shard of glass stabbed pretty deep into her right eye; my only evidence of that is this movie's PG-13 and when she went limp her head faced away from the camera.
Love how the crowd moaned in ‘pain’ when the needles stuck in the docs back, when they couldn’t even see what was happening behind him Also love how the doc had to wear them glasses, but his wife standing 2 feet behind and 6 feet left of him, and the crowd 20 feet behind tops, didn’t 😂 the shit we used to watch as kids aye
In regards to the needle comment, at 1:30 you can see a screen on the left side and at 1:42 it shows the screen close up revealing there is a camera feed behind Octavius meaning the spectators saw needles being inserted
@@Cockalicious So it's more visible to the audience. Otherwise it'd be "there's also a chip in there somewhere that prevents the AI from taking over." It's visual storytelling, rather than plot device weakness.
makes inhibitor chip, puts it in unprotected glass housing right where it could break with no failsafe to shut off the arms in case it breaks. genius indeed!
One of my favorite things about this film is how well it has aged. 20 years old and it doesn’t even look like it’s that old. And I would argue it looks and is so much better than any movie released in 2020s BY FAR.
One thing that I always enjoyed about the Sam Rami Spider-Man movies, he wasn't afraid to get dark and embrace the horror aspects when it came to telling origin stories for the villains. Thr MCU and TASM should have taken a page out of his page instead of always tying everything to either Tony Stark or Oscorp. This was straight up jaw dropping brutal and emotionally tragic
Tritium has a half life of roughly 12 years. It’s made in nuclear reactors, it is very renewable Fusion reactors can also breed tritium using their excess neutrons.
3:50. Perhaps it’s me looking for signs that aren’t there exactly, but it’s interesting that one of the lenses here is lit up by the sunlight of the sun he is producing, while the other one is completely completely dark. It’s as if to say that one side is transfixed by what could be, the other side is blind to the darkness and pain that is yet to come.
Seen this movie multiple times. So watching this clip paying attention to the style / lighting etc.. DEFINITELY a Sam Raimi flick. In the ER part really had an Army of Darkness vibe to it. Loved it ^_^
I like all the audience whincing as the needles inject into his spine... even though he is clearly facing them and wouldn't be able to see what's going on behind his back.
I can't explain it but I love his 'terrible joke' more than the rest of this scene. He connects with his audience and is a lovable character in just a few seconds.
I love the insertion of the rubberband joke cause it serves to kind of characterise Otto further and set a positive mood before the disaster. That's some good, detailed writing.
7:27 always loved these kind of silent shots Raimi did to really let you take in what exactly is going on. Does the same thing when Norman hits himself with the glider and when Peter weaves between the cracks of the bridge Otto tosses him at.
One of the deleted scenes of into the spiderverse and across the spider verse copied your favorite line like: "The Power of The Multiverse... in The Palm of my Hand"
It's weird, I remember seeing this as a kid, but I don't remember it having a terrifying impact on me, but as I look back at this scene, it's a straight horror flick.
I swear the hospital scene where all those surgeons get murdered by the tentacles makes my heart rate rise in fear! I was only ten when I first saw Sam Raimi’s “Spider-Man 2”, and still to this day I can’t get the scene out of my head.
I like how that lady was concerned with the arms controlling Otto but didn't care that they were going to do a nuclear fusion experiment in the same room they were standing in.
well I mean... you don't want the arms to nagatively influence the guy who's doing the nuclear fusion experiment in the first place right?
Probably because she has far more brain cells than your 5 or 6 max and she can actually think
@@MrVince329yes
They were there specifically to watch the fusion experiment, so they expected that part. The arms were new.
comic books
“It seems in your anger, you killed her”
“NOOOOOOOOOOOO”
@@secretname4190
Yeah. So weird. It’s like Lucas can see the future.
9:03 Darth Vader: hold my force.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I also got Darth Vader vibes from this
That's exactly what I had in mind ^_^
Still remember watching this scene as a kid, not a single shot of gore, not one drop of blood but damn was it terrifying as hell.
Which begs the question: why can't they make more bloodless comic book movies so that more kids can go see them?! Based on your response, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! 😂
@Evris It's just wax, man. ;)
It might be weird, but watching the scene as a kid I found it funny. My humor is weird I know
Sam putting his Evil Dead hat on for that scene
@@TJWinter1221are you kidding me? All Marvel movies are rated Teen which means there’s barely ANY gore.
I love when Raimi can't help but put his horror twist in scenes.
He did the same for Doctor Strage 2 😂
@@fjoelpricetoo bad it sucked
No it didnt @@ryantogo8359
That's why Sam Raimi is corny predictable horror director I hope he doesn't direct Avengers Secret Wars
@@fjoelprice who is this Dr. Strage fella?
Not only did this guy create a miniature star, he is decades ahead of mankind in terms of prosthetic engineering.
It's not real...
@@slawton17he knows, idiot, no need to state the obvious.
@@slawton17r/whoosh
@@jinx1987 not really. That term is to tell a person they missed a joke... There is no joke here.
@@slawton17 The term is for missing the point, not just a joke. Which you did. Or do you think you're actually informing someone that Spider-Man 2 is fake?
3:34 lmfaoo harry clapping is hilarious
LMAO just noticed it for the first time. Dude looks like he's in his 50s for a sec there
Like an NPC 😂
nothing beats old spiderman movies. Music, cgi, actors, everything was so good
I don't necessarily agree on all of that, but no one can argue music. The Garfield films have some awful music in them, and MCU films might as well order their music off alibaba. It all sounds like complete dog ass.
"CGI" HAHAH
@@douchebagman1172 Your father can't make good CGI, that's for sure.
Garfield has better cgi
These are my favorite spider man movies
I love how Peter walks out with everyone after he’s done his job as a hero 🕷️❤️
I love how Doctor Octopus’s arms are basically their own separate entities. It actually reflects a lot to how a real life octopus’s body functions. Octopuses are absolutely fascinating! They are one of the smartest creatures on Earth, however their intelligence works very differently than that of most other creatures. Unlike vertebrates who have a highly centralized nervous system that is controlled entirely by a central brain, cephalopods (like the octopus) have multiple neuron clusters and ganglia throughout their body. These clusters mean the octopus basically has multiple brains (9 to be exact) that control each part of the body on their own. One cluster is the central dominant brain that receives most of the information gathered, while the other 8 control the arms and basically act as “mini brains” that can operate independently from the main central brain. This allows them to solve problems that are impossible for most other creatures. Otto designed his arms with the same purpose in mind, but unfortunately as we all know, it didn’t go as planned.
Fascinating. I was unaware that an Octopus was so complex.
Word 💪🏽
Yeah if you compare it to no way home, the robots have no separate personality. Doc Oc is just an action figure
Love that Evil Dead hommage in the hospital scene!! The chainsaw and the point of view of the arms....
8:27
Holy sht i just noticed. When otto is control of the arms, the center lights are white. When the arms are in control, the center lights are red. You can confirm this by the end of the movie when he is talking to peter where otto regains control and the lights turn from red to white.
So this means that otto for a brief second had control of the arms, before he lost control, turning the color into red and then attacked the guy.
This is entirely incorrect and you must have about 4 brain cells
8:25
Just like in No Way Home
The bridge fight shows the center lights of the arms are red because the arms are in control
But when Peter puts a new inhibitor chip to help Otto, the center lights turn white and Octavius claims the voices are gone meaning he is in control again
'i developed these 4 metal arms to let me build the fusion reactor. there was absolutely no way to control them remotely, they had to be plugged directly into my brain stem. I also had to program each one with a distinct AI personality. yes, this makes no sense to me either, but i am insane'
Comic movie logic lol
The overall irony being that Otto has literally zero control over anything he invents
@Mothlord03 in the comic book he was just evil
Don't think about it too hard. I'm sure there's a reason for it that some comic writer made up. Like when they made up Clark Kents hypnotic eyeglasses that prevent others from seeing him as looking like Superman.
Don't have to waste time messing with the controls when they're directly plugged into you
at 4:49 it’s so funny how james franco waves around his arms saying “it’s my money!”
It's my money and I need it now! Call J.G Wentworth!
@@FranciumBoron 877 CASH NOWWWW
Yeah that was hilarious, "my money" we all know it's his dad's money😅
@@hopoff9968 was* his dad’s money
@@FranciumBoroni have a Structure settlement and I need cash now
1:17That music is so amazing and eerie. Perfect for this scene and this movie... Looking back, we didnt deserve this and yet we got it
This was truly a moment of horror. Especially in the comics.
I know that joke was terrible
@@bencordell1965Bahahahaha!
No
@@carlosgrey37 Yes.
Can't say I've read it but I doubt Ock's original origin story had any moments like the hospital scene.
3:29 DOCTOR HAN, IT WILL STABILIZE IT WILL STABILIZE IT WILL STABILIZE IT WILL STABILIZE IT WILL STABILIZE IT WILL STABILIZE
I AM A STABALIZER DOCTOR HAN
I AM A NUCLEAR PHYSICIST!
"It will soon stabilize!" Famous last words.
5:48 - Peter heavy breathing and the foreboding tone as it fades to black, sets the tension for the film incredibly well. 🕸️
The hospital part is a throwback to the Evil Dead trilogy. Dare I to admit?
Doesn't the '73 Delta show up in all the Raimi-go-nuts Spider-Man movies a go go?
8:16 Here's a direct reference to the evil dead 😈
@@judsongaiden9878 uncle Ben's vehicle.
This scene is pretty dark for a PG-13 CBM. The arms easily slaughtered all of them.
That's Sam Raimi for ya
Vanilla
Yeah but watch that scene (really this entire vid) again. Notice anything missing? Despite all the people getting killed, there is not ONE DROP of blood shown anywhere on screen, at any point. That's how you "kept things PG-13" in those days. No blood shown, or very little blood. The "darkness" of the arms slaughtering an entire surgical team was offset by the fact that there was ZERO blood shown, so it made the PG-13 cut.
@@johnnytyler5685 If only you knew how it was described in the novelization... Oh god.
"Dead bodies, strewn all around him. Some practically torn open, with bodily secretions and excretions splattered about on the operating room floor."
...what the fu-
@@shocktun3s729 Realism is always better.
7:42 the fact that spiderman was able to defeat this horrifyingly powerful villian shows just how badass Spiderman is.
Best Spider Man movie. Definitely. Sam Raimi directed the best Spider Man movies. This one takes the prize. Love how he incorporated some horror type elements into the shots. Because he loves horror. Alfred Molina was brilliant in this. Perfect. My favorite Spider Man villain. So cool!
Sadly the 3rd raimi film I would say is bottom of the pile out of all Spiderman films to date.
I would put them in this order.
1. Raimi Spiderman 2
2. Mcu no way home
3. Raimi Spiderman
4. Marc Webb's The amazing Spiderman
5. Mcu homecoming
6. Far from home
7. The amazing Spiderman 2
8. Raimis Spiderman 3.
If were chucking into the spider verse in there, id put it at no.4, I haven't seen the sequel to it yet.
I know you didn't ask for this rating but I was typing it and just carried on lol
@slawton17 no shot. The amazing Spiderman films are terrible. I will agree that Spiderman 3 is very weak, though
@@drdoobie8445 the first amazing Spiderman was an ok film. Good enough to go forward with a sequel. It's the sequel that let it down. But one thing that is miles on top is Andrew Garfields acting. He was let down.
It didn't occur to me until now that Doc Ock did "Nooooooo!" before Darth Vader.
Well Luke did it first.
I mean, it's not really original lol seems like a pretty common reaction to getting tragic news.
8:42 The soundtrack shows Otto's anger and sadness turning to villainy.
I love how his wife gets killed by the glass but didn't have a scratch on her
Would you prefer upper half of her face shown missing instead?
Pretty sure that shard of glass stabbed pretty deep into her right eye; my only evidence of that is this movie's PG-13 and when she went limp her head faced away from the camera.
@suckerman7gm yes
What a terrifying day for Octavius
Funny how his character had fusion technology, which could threaten to annihilate the whole planet, but he went with Octo arms instead
Love how the crowd moaned in ‘pain’ when the needles stuck in the docs back, when they couldn’t even see what was happening behind him
Also love how the doc had to wear them glasses, but his wife standing 2 feet behind and 6 feet left of him, and the crowd 20 feet behind tops, didn’t 😂 the shit we used to watch as kids aye
Or how he invested the arms to help with the reactor but also had a large needle built into them to stab Spider-Man later lol
To me the weirdest part was that the fusion reaction required the man to be present there all the time
In regards to the needle comment, at 1:30 you can see a screen on the left side and at 1:42 it shows the screen close up revealing there is a camera feed behind Octavius meaning the spectators saw needles being inserted
fusion reaction experiment in a residential apartment area LOL. Oh well still awesome and beats all of MCU imo
Dont watch superhero movies then. Its still the same.
This inhibitor chip, which I’ve developed to be extremely fragile for purposes of plot development
Who said it's extremely fragile?
The chip took the equivalent of a solar flare to shut off. Not so fragile in my book.
😆🤣😆🤣😆
@@marcohelin7290 right, but why have it on the outside of the arms, when the rest of the computers for the arms are well protected by thick armor ?
@@Cockalicious So it's more visible to the audience. Otherwise it'd be "there's also a chip in there somewhere that prevents the AI from taking over." It's visual storytelling, rather than plot device weakness.
His joke at the start went way over my head when I was a kid watching this
6:50 The Hospital 🏥 scene is one of my favorite introduction to a villain he went from becoming a brilliant scientist 👨🔬 to a mad scientist 😈
Womp Womp for him
Create a mini-sun inside of an apartment wasn't the most brilliant idea.
makes inhibitor chip, puts it in unprotected glass housing right where it could break with no failsafe to shut off the arms in case it breaks. genius indeed!
Sam Raimi’s horror direction at its best.
One of the best casting choices was Dr. Octopus.
I don't know... In the comic books, he looked more like Roy Orbison. Roy was already dead by the time this was made, though.
4:47 i love this quote - its not in control, never will be
One of my favorite things about this film is how well it has aged. 20 years old and it doesn’t even look like it’s that old. And I would argue it looks and is so much better than any movie released in 2020s BY FAR.
Original Spider man movies are the best hands down and no question about it !!!!!!!!!!!!
the first ones my favorite
The surgery scene is so much more intense and violent then I remember lol, really good on rewatch
7:58 me when I gotta go to math
😂😂😂😂 I'm dying 💀
Lmao, I don't remember Johnny Gat being one of Doc's assistants
That nurses nails dragging and leaving claw marks is something out of a horror movie 😅
The joke at the beginning really made me laugh
so if magneto existed in this universe, he wouldn’t be able to control the arms 0:52
8:17 has to be an evil dead reference
Same director.
One thing that I always enjoyed about the Sam Rami Spider-Man movies, he wasn't afraid to get dark and embrace the horror aspects when it came to telling origin stories for the villains. Thr MCU and TASM should have taken a page out of his page instead of always tying everything to either Tony Stark or Oscorp. This was straight up jaw dropping brutal and emotionally tragic
Now this is superhero movie.
Mom: “Is everything all right honey, you’ve been glaring at your uncle since he walked in?”
6:17
We didn't deserve Molina for this but I'm so glad we got him
Why not?
What why!?
nah we absolutely deserved him
The guy with the glasses behind Toby in the first couple of shots has been at every major scientific discovery in movies since 2000
The hospital scene is terrifying in multiple ways. It even looks like an alien autopsy
9:00 and THAT’S how you scream a “noooo”, Darth Vader.
Imagine what doc ock's tentacles would look like if he made a mark II version
Maybe like the PS4 version?
Like the nano version
9:02 way before, revenge of the Sith when, Darth Vader lost his wife.
5:26 Sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger in every movie he's been in
5:06 best part
Man do I love Sam Raimis direction style. He is just so damn good at what he does.
Less horror, less drama, more action and more 2000's CGI
This scene was ham-handed and cliched start to finish.
@@sgt.thundercok4704 Nice choice of words... so, can you make it easier? I guess you disliked this scene, amirite?
Yes. Make it less ham-handed and cliched.@@mottom2657
4:45 Dr Otto Octavius: it will stabilized it's under control
Harry Osborn: I'M IN CHARGE HERE IT'S MY MONEY I'M IN...
If Spiderman didn't come
He would have been hit
Stark tech was ridiculously OP in the new movie. Made out the OG villians to be easily fixable jokes.
Electro was nearly unstoppable with Stark's Arc Reactor
1:05 I just now realized that the actor simply flexed his back to create the illusion of those things attaching to him.
0:15 Alfred's natural accent slipped there
Isn’t he English, and has an English accent? I think I heard it
@queensmickey Yep he's English
The hospital scene TERRIFIED me as a kid - brilliant stuff
Amazing that a future supervillain can eak out a little joke before an experiment can transform him seemingly irrevocably.
"renewable energy"
"Only 25 lbs of the stuff"
I don't think that's how that works
LOL I never thought about it like that.
The idea was once it’s self sustaining those 25 pounds would be all he needed.
@@Mike1064ab Oh, thanks Michael
Tritium has a half life of roughly 12 years. It’s made in nuclear reactors, it is very renewable
Fusion reactors can also breed tritium using their excess neutrons.
Dude its renewable. It makes sense. Lol
3:50.
Perhaps it’s me looking for signs that aren’t there exactly, but it’s interesting that one of the lenses here is lit up by the sunlight of the sun he is producing, while the other one is completely completely dark. It’s as if to say that one side is transfixed by what could be, the other side is blind to the darkness and pain that is yet to come.
Wow
"The power of the sun in the palm of my hand."
You cannot possibly appreciate 'No Way Home' without watching this masterpiece
3:28 I'm a surgeon!
Seen this movie multiple times. So watching this clip paying attention to the style / lighting etc.. DEFINITELY a Sam Raimi flick. In the ER part really had an Army of Darkness vibe to it. Loved it ^_^
It was definitely AoD when the chainsaw came into play.
3:28 Twenty years later, Doc Ock's lab assistant becomes the Fire Lord 🤣
he was probably impressed with the doctor's quote 'power of the sun is in the palm of my hand'
I like all the audience whincing as the needles inject into his spine... even though he is clearly facing them and wouldn't be able to see what's going on behind his back.
Imagine if this movie was R-rated.
I can't explain it but I love his 'terrible joke' more than the rest of this scene. He connects with his audience and is a lovable character in just a few seconds.
If he just let Spiderman put the plug out then Rosie could have been saved
6:08- James Franco after he got exposed.
I love the insertion of the rubberband joke cause it serves to kind of characterise Otto further and set a positive mood before the disaster. That's some good, detailed writing.
Otto: Remember Me Doctor? When I Killed Your Hospital I Talked JUST.... LIKE.... THIIIIIIISSSSSS!!!!!!!! 7:25
7:27 always loved these kind of silent shots Raimi did to really let you take in what exactly is going on. Does the same thing when Norman hits himself with the glider and when Peter weaves between the cracks of the bridge Otto tosses him at.
This scene also inspired Pendulum to compose "Fasten Your Seatbelts" which is track 3 of their album, Hold Your Colour.
3:50 my favorite line in spider man no way home.
Mongo like simple tings.
Your favorite line from a film isn’t even originally from that film 😬
One of the deleted scenes of into the spiderverse and across the spider verse copied your favorite line like: "The Power of The Multiverse... in The Palm of my Hand"
I love how proud harry looks while Otto performs all that with Harry’s money funds.
0:05 i actually used a similar line during a presentation lol
“Get to the choppa!” 5:26
😂😂😂😂
Gotta love the nod to The Evil Dead with the use of a chainsaw
It's weird, I remember seeing this as a kid, but I don't remember it having a terrifying impact on me, but as I look back at this scene, it's a straight horror flick.
1:22 "Like I said, Jack!!..."
7:52 we’ve got our own problems lady!
The hospital scene is awesome i wonder how good a spider man rated r version would be
Spiderman and Batman both have the best villain origin movies.
The best title which describes this short scene of this movie is” artificial intelligent”.
If Octavia’s didn’t shove Spider-Man out of the way, then his Rosie would have still been alive
Octavia?
@@ashlirabid9614 I mean Octavius. It autocorrected.
@@ashlirabid9614 Skoda Octavia
@@JoJoGaminG36 It's a decent car.
Poor Rossy.😱 5:17
In Marvel Alien Heroes,she will return with Ghostfreak Gwen hallucination skin,when she was dead in Spider-Man 2 movie.
5:25
7:59 those are some strong nails 😆
He's my favorite 😍💕💕💕
I love how much attention to detail that they did in mini tiny arm inside mechanical arm to do fine and smooth works
Still my fav Spidey movie
I swear the hospital scene where all those surgeons get murdered by the tentacles makes my heart rate rise in fear! I was only ten when I first saw Sam Raimi’s “Spider-Man 2”, and still to this day I can’t get the scene out of my head.
5:39 it stable. now we get new energy.
Your right. It did turn stable for a minute.
"He humiliated me by touching me."
That's perfect writing right there.
The Darth Vader of Spiderman! LOL
Nope.
Alfred Molina was born for this role