Seeding A Lawn LATE In The Season
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Is it too late to seed a new cool season lawn? We're about to find out!
Of course the ideal time to plant a new cool season lawn is in the late summer/early fall depending on your location. However, our new house is close to being finished and the grading work was just completed so I have bare soil that is ready for planting. I'm trying some experiments with straw blankets, row cover fabric, and plastic cover for my ryegrass.
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Love the Smokey and the Bandit comment. You two are a hoot!
The whole property is really coming together!
3 years ago I did a Reno in the back yard and used a straw mesh product, big mistake! It worked but I still have that nylon mesh crap in the yard. I appreciate the content, seems like you have things figured out!
I am very happy for your success Ryan. You are a really hard worker and deserve all the fruit of your hard work. Congratulations.
I appreciate the kind words!
I have a house out in Southern Ontario Canada.
The best time for seeding is sometime in late April into May or late August into September.
However, I have seeded a section as late as November and had a decent lawn by December. Next summer it was full.
I love experimenting, even with complete failures you learn lessons.
Keep up the great work.
It’s coming together so nicely
Finding something that you like and enjoy is important, I’ve been watching your videos for a couple years now and really like the tips and ideas to help me improve my lawn. very helpful and appreciated.
I live in beautiful Brantford, Ontario, Canada. Very similar weather with the hot summers and cold winter’s.
All the best on your future projects. Cheers
I am at start of this video so I say GO GET EM RYAN!!!!!! You will be our tester for late lawn install!!!!!!
Wish I would've thought to use the cover fabric during my late overseeding last fall. Love your videos!
In western Massachusetts we still have 65-70° weather but mornings are usually around 35°.
The house is looking great Ryan! Congrats!
I tried row cover last spring on a section. I found the water didn’t really penetrate through the fabric as much as I wanted-I think I got the same brand as you did. The covered section didn’t absorb the spring rains and it took a beating in the heat. Pulled cores and it was much drier than rest of yard. So watch your soil moisture levels
We would walk in the seed with the tires of our ventrack, we had good success seeding most the golf course this way , love the vlogs! Thank you Ryan
Alot of the New Zealand lawn Addicts crew are doing similar using shade cloth over their seed to keep the birds away and helping keep it moist and not getting burnt out or massive run off of seed seems to be a good idea for the fine fescue they are all planted comes up quick and looks good
Drought and clover!!! So excited for that clover experiment Tbox
Super cool, Ryan!! 😎👍
Good luck with your experiment. Loved the toe tapping tunes on this video. 👌
It’s a wait and see. Good luck!
Here comes the SNOW !!
I have 22 acres at my place. I may follow your idea of putting a fairway in. Its got a good high spot on one side then low in the middle then another high spot on the opposite side. Will make for a great shot.
We'd use the covers for quicker green up too, we'd have to pull the cover and mow occasionally
I love watching everything come together and Ryan you got one hell of a wife there she is great the world needs more women like her
I covered mine with plastic a couple weeks ago and the grass popped up over night. I couldn’t keep it covered any longer due to being out of town. It’s thin but it’s growing slowly.
Good experiment with the row cover!
Looking great! I know you got it pretty smooth and it's after the fact, but I like dragging it with a good size piece of cyclone fence. Just a thought. Thank you for your videos!
You are the true lawn rebel
Another cool experiment. Following along!
Seeding a lawn is not easy but I don’t have to tell you that. It’s rarely perfect on the first attempt and it takes patience. It’s both frustrating and rewarding. I do enjoy it though.
My favorite part of lawn care aside from mowing
You need a sumi soaker Ryan. Great for lower pressures
I have the same issue as yourself with low water pressure. What I did is set up a 1500 gallon tank with a toilet float to fill the tank. I then have a 1/3hp pump with a pump start relay to irrigate 12,000sqft of lawn and a garden. Works really good and never run out of water even in the driest of years. I use the hunter Wifi controller 👌🏻👌🏻
Interesting because according to my calculations I would need roughly 3500 gallons on 5k sq ft to put down an inch of water.
@@ryanknorrlawncare I apply 1/2” of water twice a week. I have 14 zones and not all zones get watered everyday. I stagger them. Also my hydrant is turned on all the time so when the system is irrigating the tank is filling. Works good for me. Sometimes in hot summer months my controller will increase water times to accommodate.
I don't have any lawn to take care of at this point, and still watch time to time. Just wanted to say two things - your wife has some hands on her! Catch stuff like a boss one handed. Lol Also, that place is freakin' gorgeous!
This is going to look amazing!
Looking good Ryan.
your going to need some sort of snow fence between you and the crops next door, every other year here, when they plant corn in the fall we have a yard full of stocks after harvest
Looking forward to some putting green videos!
cant wait to see the progress
That’s a great video Ryan. I am from Ontario Canada and did the KBC seeding on October 1st. It has grown well, however the germination happened after two weeks as per the instructions provided by the seed seller. Right now after germination it 4 weeks and about two to three inches in height. Do I need to do fall fertilizer or just have to leave it for the winter. I have few more days of good weather
I'm in Texas and don't have cool season but I've always enjoyed your videos and humble attitude. Very happy for your success. Looking forward to how you do the fairway and green as I want to do a green setup in the future. How will you divert the water coming from your gutter at 8:24 to avoid erosion?
Just wait until you get to experience all the critters out of town that you rarely experience in town. Birds tearing up the new seeding shoots, voles chewing out new grass, and of course the moles doing a number on the once flat dirt.
I have all of this in town
Thanks bud! Maybe you will get some germination before it gets too cold. :)
First Aussie 😁. Ryan, it’s all happening on the Lawn Ranch. 🤠
Have always enjoyed your videos. Great tips and good quality videos. Would love to see and hear more about your Barndo. Maybe some tips/ideas. My wife and I are hoping to do the same
Check out our other channel where we post a lot of the barndo stuff - ruclips.net/user/ryanknorr
You’re gonna have a golf course in front of your house! 👍🏼🤪
That's the plan!
Sub'd just for the Green and Fairway project
whelp, I guess I'd better get my annual rye out on my 55'X20' greens court too, if I'm ever going to get to use that Hudson Star mower I won.... was very tempted to try it out on the new fescue I did summer/fall that came in so nice, but was keeping it at over 1" and that mower is just too pretty to use it on that - likely won't do bent grass until late summer next year and after sand smoothing(so hoping Ryan starts his green right away next year to get some insight for my own) but I've gotten annual rye looking really good even under 1" so if my soil comes out level enough I'll roll the new reel on it(or at least my old Great States reel mower) ....but fall in Iowa has been wacky the last few years, I had temporary rye grass come up after Halloween and keep till the spring/summer two years ago here in IC
Interesting pickle with the well... Any chance you could store some rain water at an elevation in a water tower or raised barrel coming off those rear downspouts?
Wont give you a high supply unless you're going to make a big water tower but you only need a little pressure for sprinklers
I just need a bigger well pump or a booster for pressure
@@ryanknorrlawncare that's the simple answer for sure. Wasn't sure if you were avoiding that for some reason or another related to the house water
Can't wait to see this property up and running 100%....nice job Ryan!
My house is cursed with low water pressure/flow rate. I have enough pressure to run one oscillating sprinkler at a time. I got a 2 way automated irrigation timer and it runs one sprinkler directly after another so that only one is running at a time with full pressure. They make 4 way timers as well and I'm sure you could cover all 5k sqft with 4 oscillating sprinklers. You could hook a 4 way up to that hydrant, set your times, and be done with the hand watering.
Can't set the times because the well has to be turned on and off manually at this point
@@ryanknorrlawncare Oof, your arms are going to be tired from all the watering you've got ahead of you. At least it's only temporary. Looking forward to seeing the results.
Row covers are a great idea, wish I had heard of that about 4 weeks ago 😂. Would you say it’s a replacement for the straw mats? Seems like it would do the same thing…..
Straw doesn't hold heat in like these are designed to do so not quite the same thing
@@ryanknorrlawncare yeah makes sense. In early fall I imagine the heat could do more harm than good. Thanks!
Curious how tyvek would work vs plastic
Do you mind if I ask what the grader charged? My quotes were $25,000 to finish grade 2.5 Acres.
That doesn't sound too far off depending on how much is involved
Hey Ryan, curious, have you ever considered pre germination? I recently stumbled upon it, apparently some sod farms use this technique. I have not tried it myself though.
Also, love the content! Can’t wait to see how it ends up
Have been obsessive about my 185 sq ft rear yard.
Does the golf course help keep da deer away. Watch out for them deer.
Do you just drive around or do you get iut and walk around and feel it out
Could these strategies also work for an early spring seeding?
I haven't tried it personally but I would think so
Looking great! Do you have a link to the Annual Rye? I'm unable to find it on Stover's website. Thanks!
How about a water feature? Lazy river?
I definitely don't have enough water for that haha
The keystone truck bed pool will work 😂
So how have the row covers worked out? I put down the same on two sections last week and covered a few bare patches in the front where I've seeded with RK KBG/PRG a few days ago. Wondering how long to keep them down.
Video coming Sunday
That looks like a lot of bare dirt heading into winter. You may lose a lot of good top soil.
Cover crop is already germinated and a few inches tall
No fertilizer?
Hey Ryan just curious what the longest golf tee box yardage look like from the house to green? That will be so fun, can't wait for that project when it comes.
I'm following your lead trying those row covers on some seedlings that germinated a week or two ago with our first frost coming next week up here in the PNW. I had such success on my backyard this year I tried squeezing the front yard in too. Fingers crossed for us both :) Thanks dude!
pretty risky to do this before watering situation is figured out...should be interesting to see the results
I have a well and rural water so those are the options that will have to work for the future
Hey there Ryan. Did you lay down the straw with the knitting? I am in Kentucky and I have a sloped area right behind my new construction home. That I thought I would use the straw with the net to help hold in the soil. A local landscaper told me that it was a nightmare to mow. Because the grass lifts the knitting up after a while. But i have never used it. So i am just asking for your experience with it.
I always remove the straw blankets after germination so they don't stay there too long once things start to grow
will grass grow through that fabric or will you need to pull it off?
Most likely I won't have enough growth underneath before the real cold sets in. It's fairly tight on the weave so I don't think a whole lot would grow through
Kelsey has Justin Jefferson-like hands!
Wow Ryan, looks amazing! I didn't realize you were going to put in a fairly and green with tee boxes? I didn't know you golfed at all? The Ventrac does an amazing job. Please get my number from Paul and lets talk and/or get together? It looks like my building won't be going up until spring now as the deal for our acreage fell through because the State would not let me put in a driveway into my new property, they wanted me to build a frontage road, a few hundred feet! Trying to get a smaller lot really close to our house on Armypost Rd. Take care and don't work too hard!
letsssgooo!!
Always tough in the midwest....
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Are you going to trial other varieties other than your own?
Have you considered rain collection on a massive scale maybe 10k to 15k Gallons - wait you have enough water it's just the pressure loss jet pump buy a good one not a Maynards special lol
Watch Pete's well pump booster videos on GCI turf RUclips channel.
Is this Jeff Besos' house? This field of grass must cost like 10 hourses
You're doing great work, Ryan. Really enjoy your content. The PRG I bought from you this year is looking beautiful! (6b)
Hey man, from Australia, just wanted to say thanks.
I actually think it's so cool that you're teaching and helping people with their yards from another country!
Beautiful home. I know your grass will turn out great
I planted almost this late and it became an unintentional dormant seeding- turned unseasonably cold. Came up great the next spring. NE Iowa.
Man, I would SO love to have one of those Ventracs. Sadly I just dont ever see it financially feasible.
I have an acre yard and it would make my life so much easier.
I’ve been reading on golf courses using fine fescue for fairways. That would be a cool test plot to try and see the results. There’s not a ton of info out there on reel mowed fine fescue, but looks like it make an incredible low cut grass when done properly!
I have a reel mowed fine fescue test plot installed so good to go :)
Ive seeded in late fall before. I like it in a pinch because by spring you won't be starting from bare dirt. And it lets you know right away when the growing season starts so you can get out there and re-seed
Glad to see you were able to get some seed down this year. Things are really shaping up! Yall have accomplished a lot this year, we may have to induct yall into the We Workin Team lol. Congrats to both of you!
Ryan I hope you do a full video on your irrigation plans. My wife and I bought a new home on an acre. We planted Bermuda (lower transition zone) late summer and it did amazing establishing. However dragging a sprinkler across an acre every day is miserable lol. I want to take on building the irrigation system myself. So I need you to brave it first to build my confidence!
I'm not likely tackling it all myself just because of how many zones I'll have for plots etc but I'll make sure to film all that when we have it sorted out
Love your videos. Been watching for many years, I’m from Chatham, Illinois. Good Luck on the new property..
I have had pretty good germination using germination tarps. We had to pull the tarp and let it air out every few days or else we got fungus and mice under the tarp. I'm in Oregon it looks drier where you are...
so cool!! beautiful place. you have your work cut out for you. what are your thought on putting grass seed down on a existing lawn before the first snow?
I get a lot of leaves and I rake them strategically based on the wind where they go where they come from and I put seeds down and let the leaves blow back and thr rain and snow should paper mache a good insulation layer and once it dries and really freezes the grass should be hardening and then ill brake the leaves off
Can I use the Row Cover to help speed up germination of KBG in the Spring? If so, when do you remove it?
With a driveway that long, make sure you have space to turn around for delivery trucks.
Ryan said I'm coming after you Pete! Ventrac and all!
That black Iowa top soil grows big corn crops grass will thrive in that soil
WATER TOWER for storage!
The only SOB in Iowa growing grass 12 months of the year. Thanks blankies!!
I've been waiting for this! Awesome! Really get the familiar perspective yet the yard is huge now
You need a large pond...
No neighbors to say “what the hell is Ryan up to now”.
It’s November 1st. You probably have germination already.
No more neighbors! 🙂
My cover crop is up and running so the grass should be coming up soon
Looking good Ryan!