How To Fill Out The Form Correctly | United States Log Books
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There are several reasons that CDL drivers can get a log book violation:
• incorrect information;
• supporting documents doesn't match the log sheet;
• or not up to date as of the last change of duty status to name a few.
Authorities can determine average daily speeds from your log book, and if incorrect you could potentially get a speeding ticket.
Also, the log book is a legal document and will be used in post-crash investigations, and for tax purposes.
Good luck on your road test.
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What! You can get a speeding ticket just off your paperwork and not it physically happening?...?
Hi Robert L - Thank you for your comment and query. Yes you can my friend - that is why it's important to check your average speed after filling out your daily log sheet. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Yes you sure can, dot can ticket you if you dont sign it.sign it last thing! If you sign it, and it's wrong,its in stone wrong!.dont be rude or offensive to dot, they will make your day bad!!
got popped in montana speeding, just a little over and DOT made me sit at the chicken koop for 20 minutes until my log book matched my speed
Hopefully you didn’t get a ticket from the DOT as well!?! That would be a real bummer!!
@@smartdrivetest Nope....just time out
My truck was put out of service once for 10 hours for log book violation, and I got $1000 ticket in Main !! It was almost 20 years ago !! I Lorene my lesson well , and since that I took log book much more seriously !!
Got a ticket On the Katy Freeway on 9/1/2016 in Houston TX for not having a log book. My truck in a Ford F350 single axle pulling a private 24 foot enclosed trailer. Combined GVWR 23900#. The fine was $175.00
Hi Richard: Thanks for your comment - sorry to hear about the ticket. Is your vehicle registered in Texas? How far from home were you? I don't know for certain--although I've done a preliminary search--and I believe the GVWR is what designated your vehicle as a commercial vehicle, not the fact that you're using it for personal use. I ran into a similar issue with BC Ferries with a 26' Uhaul truck. Although I was using it for personal use and could drive it with a Class 5 (passenger vehicle) licence, the ferry company deemed it a commercial vehicle due to its licence and registration. Thanks again, Cheers Rick
I believe that you need to look into the "not for hire" rule.
you helped generations of drivers thank you
Hi Splash God - And you are most welcome. We're happy to hear we could help out. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Great info. Please answer this question. If I just bought my first truck and I’m not ready to start hauling yet because I want to get an APU and other stuff put on the truck, how do I log driving to get the APU on the paper log, please?? And what if I want to take family for a ride?? Your answer will be highly appreciated!! Thank you
thank you very much for information
Hi jamshed negmatov - thank you for your comment and compliment. And you are most welcome. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
I’m satisfied with your experience teaching log book!
Hi Cishahayo Ali - We're happy to hear we could help out. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Violation improperly filled out days of service. For those that are farm tagged and driving outside your 150 aerial mile radius, your normal working hours count as in service hours and you have to have a separate log sheet for each of those days even though you weren’t driving. So if you have reset after your two nights off but then on Monday and Tuesday you work on the farm and then driving on Wednesday you have to show that on three separate log sheets. This is a relatively new change. Learned this during a recent audit.
Hi Randall Cates - thank you for the information my friend. May I ask who audited you? It's my understanding that they can request work sheet hours--separate from a logbook---but those work hours didn't have to be recored in the logbook. All the best, Cheers Rick
Smart Drive Test The actual person was a Oklahoma State Trooper who works in conjunction with FMCSA. He was a good guy and was helpful. 3 violations over several let to the company audit. No wide load permit outside the 150 hauling hay twice and aTurn signal light which lead to roadside inspections of which one of those was also found a logbook violation. He went over how I was doing my log book.
Audit was just last month. He did say it was a relatively new change. He told me to show my farm hours in my log book as on duty. I don’t know if this just applies to farm tags. If you like I can get you the troopers email/telephone.
i do not believe it is all true.i would file a complaint.. it is like germany in 1939 so sad. maybe the animals have to fill out a log book too ?
they are trying to make farmers into drivers. ridiculous .,
Hey mister, can we use log book if my company hasn’t sent me the eld yet. Thanks
new to dot log I have been running mainly within 100 miles of shop no log or dot number under 26,000 lbs. I now have dot numbers and deliver out of state 1 time a month when do I start my log book. I now haul 27,000 hot shot truck.
I have elogs and did not go into sleeper berth for my 56 hours I was at home. I didn't certify the logs either. Its saying im in violation. Can and how do I fill out the logs showing i was off for that time and do I keep paper logs until I can get my elog current?
Hey was wondering if I was waiting on a mentor, would i still clock that as off duty time?
Hi Ant Rinaldi - thanks for your comment. Technically yes, but authorities really aren't going to be able to track that; in other words their not going to know what you're doing, so you could log it as sleeper birth time, because you could wait in the sleeper birth for your mentor. If there's anything else we can do, drop us a note. All the best, Cheers Rick
Took a bus on the ferry in Alaska. Had to keep the engine running or it would freeze. Ferry Load Master said I had to stay in the driver's seat if the bus was running. Ferry exceeded 100-mile radius from my yard. How do I enter that in my log book?
Hi Eric L - Apologies for the late response. Thank you for your comment and query. You'll log that as on-duty not driving. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Can you do a video on how to fill out a log if you were only on duty all day and didn’t step foot in a truck
I drove more than 11hors in a 24 hour's period and was able to take all my legal mandatory brakes and fuel stop. Am I still in violation, my truck is govern at 65 miles an hour max.
I knew a person that was shut down for 10-hours because he didn't have a log book at that time and he was coming from Jackson ms to New Orleans and company had to pay the fine.
Hi EDDIE RAMSEY - Thank you for your comment. And he's lucky they only shut him down for 10 hours; in some instances the fine can be astronomical for not having a log book. And be sure that the company took the fine out of his/her pay. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
I've always driven local but I'm getting sent out to pickup a new trailer beyond the 100 mile radius. My boss says I can drive the 100 miles then start a log book. Is this true? I thought it had to be filled out from your start of the day.
What about if you drive alot slower than the speed limit but log as you have driven faster? do the weigh stations log your passing time in a system? what are the chances of them checking that? Last time i got a inspection in wyoming over 6yrs ago, officer just looked the logs, thats it....No violations there even tho i was running different times and faster speeds back then.
Now am otr again in my own truck but only go 55-60 to save fuel.
Hi Turbopower00 - Good question. Nope - they're just going to see if you're being reasonable. Usually, they look for 45-55mph as an average speed. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
@@smartdrivetest good to hear thank you
You're most welcome. Cheers Rick
This gentleman referenced 100 miles of travel. The Federal regulations state 100 air miles not just 100 miles. This is very important reference interstate and intrastate commerce. We need to explain the law to drivers so they completely understand the federal regulations correctly which is paramount. Thank you for your understanding
Please explain what’s the difference is between 100 air miles and 100 miles! Cheers Rick
Response, miles to air miles, this is how the Federal Regulations are worded per statute. Air miles are measured for Interstate commerce and equal more miles than land travel. Again this is a quick response.
@@smartdrivetest "as the crow flies"
In the big scheme of the world, it’s just bureaucrats & pedants making it complicated. If you’re 100 miles, you’re a 100 miles. Maintain a log book. Cheers Rick
If you are a local driver that stays within the 100 mile radius, driver necessarily don't need fill out a driver daily log. But the day they send you outside the 100 mile mark, How do you go about the filling out the Preceding 7 days??? please help.
Hi Bernie Cervantes - Thank you for your comment. You can put the previous 7 days on one sheet. Simply draw a line through the "off-duty" section of the graph and write the date range in the date section. See this example: www.smartdrivetest.com/learning/teaching/truck-drivers/logbook-sheets If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
What if you were driving some of the preceding 7 days, would you still log it as off duty?
May I know how to do the background like you can have your own image on the video that is so natural?
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Hi how are you? I just last night got docked for 10 hrs for a false report of drivers record of duty status...1/10/2017 I have only been driving for 3 weeks and I made some mistakes with the hours that has cost me dearly...do you know what kind of fine it is in Oklahoma? And how will this affect my cdl liscense
Hi Johnny Cash - I'm sorry to hear that you have logbook violations. Too often new drivers aren't trained properly by companies and unfortunately it is the new driver that pays financially. I too paid with a few logbook violations at the beginning of my career. There's lots of great information here on the channel about logbooks. Without knowing the specifics of the fine, I would suggest talking to a DOT officer at one of the weigh stations - she/he would by your best source of information. Thanks Cheers Rick
Where are my left lane cowboys at?
What if I don’t normally drive for a living, but I have to drive a semi with a lowboy 200 miles in the middle of the week? How do I log my time for the prior days when I was working but not driving a commercial vehicle?
Hi BillyG - Thank you for your question. If you're not working as a CDL driver, then you just have to have a log sheet for the day you drive the truck. The other days would be off-duty. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Thank you!
Hi BillyG - you are most welcome my friend. If we can help further, drop us a note. All the best, Cheers Rick
Hello, I love your channel. I drive cdl b rolloff truck within 100 miles of my terminal. I'm flying to Dallas Texas to pickup a rolloff truck and drive it to North Carolina. How do I fill out the drivers log. Ty
I’ve been trucking 38 years and I’ve never seen a log sheet that looked like that. What company prints those funky log sheets? 🤷♂️
Hi Gearjammer - Thank you for your comment. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I got those funky log sheets from Pacific Coast Express when I worked there for a short period of time. Stay safe Gearjammer. All the best, Cheers Rick
Hey so I’m a non cdl driver but I drive close to 300miles a day and I have no idea about the rules. I’ve never filled out a log book. Thought it was cdl only.
If you are a trainer, and your trainee is doing most of the driving for that day, how do you then fill out your own log book for that day?
Hi Adam adam - Thank you for your comment and query. And if you are in the passenger seat, observing and mentoring the driver, then you are "On duty, Not driving". If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
@@smartdrivetest Thanks
Hi Adam adam - you are most welcome my friend. All the best, Cheers Rick
Very informative video. Will definitely be subscribing. As a "local" driver I'm home every night but I'm still driving more than 100 miles from home terminal daily. Would I qualify for the tax breaks? Using E-logs. Thanks
Hi SuperTrucker GXC - And you are most welcome. We're happy to hear we could help out. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Do you fill out a different log book every day or every week you work?
Hi Cole Rader - thanks for your comment. You have to fill out a new log sheet for every 24-hour period - midnight to midnight. If you purchase a logbook, these have 31 sheets for a month. If you have further questions, drop us a note. All the best, Cheers Rick
Where can i get all this info
Thank you can you walk through a full day with log please
Great content
Hi Denise Bryan - you are most welcome my friend. Drop us a note if we can help further my friend. All the best, Cheers Rick
I need help....my new route is 154 miles( 2h 28m) from the shipper to the receiver...from our shop where we keep the truck to the shipper is 38 miles (36 m) but I go a few miles from the shop to get fuel 1st thing in the a.m. when I leave the shop... it usually takes 30 mins to load and around the same to unload...DO I NEED TO BE FILLING OUT A PAPER LOG EVERY DAY? if so.. does it matter if I take that mandatory 30 min break right after I get loaded ..before I head to deliver the load ??? As long as I do not go past the 8 hrs of the 14 h rule I'm fine right? I haven't had to run logs in awhile... I feel like a idiot
I've got another route too...its 197 miles away from our shop...takes like right around 4hrs one way to the turf farm...hauling sod...takes around 1 to 2 hrs to get loaded..depends on if it's ready when I arrived...
And also, I bought a paper log book at a convenient store and it doesn't look like yours in your video.. it doesn't even have a place to write a bill of lading number at all...
Hi Dynamic Dopamine - Apologies for the late response. If you're running farther than 100M, you have to keep a log my friend. And in the states they have gone to Electronic Log Devices. You could run an app on your phone, which is easier than paper logs. I believe in some instances a paper log is going to work for you my friend. And you can just write the Bill of Lading # anywhere on the sheet. If you have further questions, drop us a note. And you may consider our logbook course - that may help: www.smartdrivetest.com/u-s-log-books All the best, Cheers Rick
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Is there a place you can print these official forms yourself?
Go to any truck stop
Anyone knows what does VI mark mean on a flag in a log book?
Vehicle Inspection - usually marked in a log book for 15 minutes. Drop us a note if you have further questions, or we can help out. Cheers Rick
What about an owner operator that is not working yet but you need to bobtail to go get a trailer around 320 miles round trip how do I log that on a book?
You’re going to have log that as driving time. You’re going to get a trailer, so it’s technically working. In the eyes of the DOT, you’ll have to log that as driving time. All the best, Cheers Rick
@@smartdrivetest Thanks for the swift response
You’re most welcome. Safe travels my friend. Cheers Rick
How you doing brother? good CDL information.This is needed to know before applying for a truck job.Alhamdulillah(all the praise and thanks are to Allah)
Hi @TRUCKERAbdurRahmanbinbailey - I’m so glad it was helpful! Drop us a note if we can help further my friend. All the best, Cheers Rick
Yes
My instructor just introduced this to us about a hour ago then he says...you all will be having a 70 question test on this tomorrow
Hi Krispy Mane - Thank you for your comment. That sounds like a bit of pressure my friend. Is it just on log books there in Untied States? If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
Smart Drive Test thank you for replying back so fast i appreciate it and Yes it’s just over the United States log books..I get it for the most part but I’ll need to do a little more studying..just so I feel more confident about it
Good info
Hi Jking 0.o - you are most welcome my friend. Drop us a note if we can help further my friend. All the best, Cheers Rick
Glad you think so! Drop us a note if we can help further. All the best, Cheers Rick
Having too many pages inside of my log book
If your local driver what is the farthest you can drive without a log book anybody??
damn dude u didnt explain Graph..u just explained these adminstartion
You want this video my friend: ruclips.net/video/z75OXuhz-z4/видео.html Drop us a note if you have further questions. Cheers Rick
They need to make the log book electron
Do school bus drivers fill out a log book
Hi Frank Ortiz - Thank you for your comment and query. And if you're driving beyond 100M of your home terminal, then yes. If not, you time sheets will suffice for the DOT. If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
This dude obviously never drove from AZ to TX. Speed limit is anywhere from 70mph to 80mph along I-10.
Hi Tablesaw818 - is it the same for both cars and trucks my friend? In many States, there's a split speed limit. All the best, Cheers Rick
@@smartdrivetest Very few states have separate speed limits for 4 wheelers vs trucks. California is one of them. Trucks are 55mph no matter what highway they are on.
Ohio once upon a time had a split speed limit. There was a move against these because of the speed differentials & the increased risk of crashes. Cheers Rick
I live in Michigan and the truck speed limit is 55 or 60 depending the road. And I just traveled to Kentucky and every state I went thru had split speed Limits.
So you lose your right to remain silent?
I’m lost 😭😭😭 lol
My truck is governed at 63 miles per hour anyways.
I thought this was going to show how you fill it out.
Hi Low Tolerance Level - Even with a truck that governed, if you fill out the logbook incorrectly, you could still potentially get a speeding ticket or a logbook violation my friend. See this vid for filling out the logbook: ruclips.net/video/z75OXuhz-z4/видео.html If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
@@smartdrivetest I did think about that (incorrect log).
I definitely will do that.
I thought I had it down, until my manager stated that I didn't put in each stop.
Hopefully I'll be a pro after watching.
Thanks again.
Hi Low Tolerance Level - you are most welcome my friend. Drop us a note if we can help further my friend. All the best, Cheers Rick
This had absolutely nothing about filling out the log sheet, I'm surprised you didn't tell me how much psi I need in my tires
Hi Lance Natsim - Thank you for your feedback. The information around the log sheet is as important--if not more so--than the information on the graph. This is the video you're looking for: ruclips.net/video/G0C3_e4DQMQ/видео.html If there is anything further we can do, drop us a note. Always happy to help. All the best, Cheers Rick
PS - the tire pressure on a big truck or bus is usually 100psi. ;-P
Not helpful at all wtf!
What are you looking for? Check out this vid: ruclips.net/video/UBKHWHziOrg/видео.html Cheers Rick
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