The aftermarket speaker are earth magnet the oem are lab/neodymium magnet that is 4x more powerful magnet per size .if u compare a aftermarket neodymium to the ones you installed they will sound alot more...compare to a prv 6mb250-ndy Thats why the oem get alot of sound for the size
Size isn't everything, *especially* with magnets. The composition of the material is far more important. There are gigantic magnets that have less force than some teensy magnets. There are cheap speakers with large magnets that move much less air than other speakers with relatively small magnets. Assuming a speaker is "better" just because the magnet is larger is a huge mistake. I can't help noticing that the Alpine speakers have much smaller driver cones than the OEM speakers, which is another factor. Smaller cones MUST have a much greater excursion to move the same amount of air as a larger cone. While there are small speakers that have remarkably good sound compared with some speakers that are much larger, there are lots of factors that can't be determined simply by looking at them. Smaller magnets but larger cones make for a combination that is pretty much a wash comparing with the replacement speakers. I would like to see some independent tests of the various drivers with hard, scientific numbers, not subjective hearing tests. Especially since audio is an extremely subjective matter of taste.
I'm amazed at the amount of bass that comes from my stock door speakers (at certain optimal frequencies). Like I hear and feel the bass from my doors more than my actual rear subwoofer.
I agree with this in my 2017 Model S with premium audio. Of course, low bass is very hard to localize, but when my elbow is on the door armrest I can really feel the vibration. That's true even with the door open when there is very little physical connection with the rest of the car to transmit vibration.
I really enjoy all of your videos. I am trying to make my Model 3 as light as possible. Could you do one video that just shows you disassembling everything you have ever taken off? It would be great to have one video showing us how to disassemble as much as possible on the car.
Great video and awesome sense of humor. I’m amazed that Tesla can pull such good sound quality with those speakers. Can’t imagine how this will sound with the upgraded ones.
The Alpine kit is well thought out, but its speakers have not been well-reviewed in many online reviews. They also cost $3,000 if you use Alpine's amplifier. So they don't appear to be a great choice for several reasons.
Having tested Alpine DP series and Light Armonics set of speakers. Which one would yor recomend the most. Also Alpine speakers are hard to get in the US.
Sorry for the late reply, I got the speakers and the 3 upfront speakers sound great and the tweeters are good, but I thought the door speakers would sound better they have a muffled sound just like the stock Tesla speakers, I tried playing around with the equalizer but still a muffled sound from the door speakers, but overall sounds great and a lot of bass in the sub as well.
I installed skar speaker in my subwoofer factory box just ordered the adapter speaker to amp wiring harness and adaptor off Amazon for 18 bucks omg 45 bucks wow big big difference compared to light harmonics way better. By the way am selling my harmonic sub for 50 bucks
What about the mid bass? Replacing the 8 "' door speakers with 6" or 6 1/2" seems like you might lose the nice stock mid bass from the 8' speakers. Perhaps you don't notice due to the subwoofer upgrade? Bigger magnets matter, but wouldn't they also be way less efficient, drawing more power?
I read that the magnets on the factory speakers are physically smaller because they are neodymium magnets versus the ferrite magnets on the Alpine which are larger but less efficient.
@@noelyboy6969 the stock system utilized very efficient speakers that do not require much power. Aftermarket Alpine speakers need much more power than the stock system amplifier feeds to the speakers. The only solution would be to have a professional install a more powerful afterrmarket amp amp to drive the alpines. That may not be worth the effort, cost, or issues associated with.
Hi Guys I have the model 3 RWD so no sub, how does it sound with the speakers installed but no sub? Would that configuration still be worth it? Cheers Jon
Really useful video! I ordered the hepaking DP series speakers for my M3 RWD. Really good service from them and sound is definitely better. Now I need to activate the tweeters and install the subby I bought. Fun times ahead!
Hello. I am curious of the amplifier situation of a 2023 Model 3 Standard Range and how it compares to AWD. In the AWD, do I understand it to have 2 amplifiers ? If so, what is the wattage and what does each serve ? Is it one amp serving just the sub and one amp for all the tweeters/mids/woofers ? What is the wattage of the SR amplifier ?
I still prefer a treated paper type cone on a midrange and woofer. Better sound replication to my ear. These exotic carbon fiber cones are for show only imo.
Great how-to piece! So, I have a 2023 M3. Should I first buy the Hanshow elec override harness that activates the inactive speakers before upgrading any speakers? Also, since I am a rear-wheel-drive guy, what upgrade package is best for me? great channel!!
What about the speaker up neard your head in the pilar ?The ones up there are the worst and no one changes them .I cant find i speaker or video on them being changed out .
Man this has to be the best install video I have seen to date!!! Now i'm guessing if I order these on HDK, they come pre-installed meaning I would just have to plug and play? Also what size and ohms is that subwoofer? i'm also curious has to why you only installed speakers in the front but not the back? Doesn't that affect the overall sound quality as to replacing all speakers? Sorry for the questions I just want to make sure I get the best sound quality possible!
I accidentally pulled clip off of red/green wire under dash when replacing HVAC filters. Does it matter which hole I reinstall clip on. Any suggestions on how to reattch clip to red green wire.
Tengo una duda. El Model Y los altavoces que monta son iguales o son diferentes? Cuántos altavoces monta en total? Me encantan tus vídeos. Gran elección con Alpine.
One of the other reason, is that the other speakers high-mid-bass when the volume gets higher they started to distort. So it would also makes user not to tune up the volume. With upgrading the speakers even when volume is higher it would sound better. Hence more bass when volume are up
My presumption is there are no passive crossovers included unlike ordering speakers direct from alpine. It would be presumed that they are using Tesla factory passive/digital crossovers and crossover points. Not sure if Tesla uses an inline passive crossover/cap inline to the door speaker as I hope they do or that alpine tweet in the door is screaming with a high potential of burning out. I also saw the mid dash tweet was not swapped out in this install and not sure why the kit would not include one as I personally would have swapped it out. I also would have added a grated material over the internal port hole on the sub box and then filled it with 20-30% of the volume with poly fill. The new sub has a larger magnetic displacement and shrinks the air volume of the enclosure. Adding the fill would add a lower frequency to the sub while also lowering its power consumption. This may be a project for me this spring.
@@trelisashorty5580 - The factory amp produces the same amount of power regardless. Now if the impedance of the speakers are lower than the factory the amp will increase draw/output. So really the increase in audio is just the speakers quality/frequency and setup. A day will come when someone creates an adapter to convert the Tesla audio signal in to after market equipment and then the full rewrite/system upgrade will occur using the tablet as the control/audio source not the factory output.
The aftermarket speaker are earth magnet the oem are lab/neodymium magnet that is 4x more powerful magnet per size .if u compare a aftermarket neodymium to the ones you installed they will sound alot more...compare to a prv 6mb250-ndy
Thats why the oem get alot of sound for the size
Size isn't everything, *especially* with magnets. The composition of the material is far more important. There are gigantic magnets that have less force than some teensy magnets. There are cheap speakers with large magnets that move much less air than other speakers with relatively small magnets. Assuming a speaker is "better" just because the magnet is larger is a huge mistake.
I can't help noticing that the Alpine speakers have much smaller driver cones than the OEM speakers, which is another factor. Smaller cones MUST have a much greater excursion to move the same amount of air as a larger cone. While there are small speakers that have remarkably good sound compared with some speakers that are much larger, there are lots of factors that can't be determined simply by looking at them. Smaller magnets but larger cones make for a combination that is pretty much a wash comparing with the replacement speakers.
I would like to see some independent tests of the various drivers with hard, scientific numbers, not subjective hearing tests. Especially since audio is an extremely subjective matter of taste.
Agreed. Super cringe hearing how a “magnet” makes the difference in sound quality.
I'm amazed at the amount of bass that comes from my stock door speakers (at certain optimal frequencies). Like I hear and feel the bass from my doors more than my actual rear subwoofer.
I agree with this in my 2017 Model S with premium audio. Of course, low bass is very hard to localize, but when my elbow is on the door armrest I can really feel the vibration. That's true even with the door open when there is very little physical connection with the rest of the car to transmit vibration.
Looked easy and you had fun filming. Really enjoyed the video
I really enjoy all of your videos. I am trying to make my Model 3 as light as possible. Could you do one video that just shows you disassembling everything you have ever taken off? It would be great to have one video showing us how to disassemble as much as possible on the car.
I love great sound at a low volume so that I don't get a headache and I can hear emergency vehicles.
Great video and awesome sense of humor. I’m amazed that Tesla can pull such good sound quality with those speakers. Can’t imagine how this will sound with the upgraded ones.
Yes, I do wonder how it sounds. Maybe he could post a follow-up video?
Now I know where woofer is located ha. satisfying to watch. But I'm happy with oem setup in my MYP. Maybe if I was 20 yrs younger I'd do this
The performance definitely has a good speaker system it’s 10/10
Awesome video. Took me back to my youth.
The Alpine kit is well thought out, but its speakers have not been well-reviewed in many online reviews. They also cost $3,000 if you use Alpine's amplifier. So they don't appear to be a great choice for several reasons.
Having tested Alpine DP series and Light Armonics set of speakers. Which one would yor recomend the most.
Also Alpine speakers are hard to get in the US.
Alpine speakers are sold at every single car audio store across the nation.
You git everything great but only step I see you missed is dynamat the speakers area to even get it better
I ordered the speakers today and cant wait to fit them and hear that sound.
How are they? Do they sound better?
Review?
Sorry for the late reply, I got the speakers and the 3 upfront speakers sound great and the tweeters are good, but I thought the door speakers would sound better they have a muffled sound just like the stock Tesla speakers, I tried playing around with the equalizer but still a muffled sound from the door speakers, but overall sounds great and a lot of bass in the sub as well.
I installed skar speaker in my subwoofer factory box just ordered the adapter speaker to amp wiring harness and adaptor off Amazon for 18 bucks omg 45 bucks wow big big difference compared to light harmonics way better. By the way am selling my harmonic sub for 50 bucks
...why didn't you replace any of the speakers in the back seat?
What about the mid bass? Replacing the 8 "' door speakers with 6" or 6 1/2" seems like you might lose the nice stock mid bass from the 8' speakers. Perhaps you don't notice due to the subwoofer upgrade? Bigger magnets matter, but wouldn't they also be way less efficient, drawing more power?
I would like to know the answer to this too.
Me too^
I read that the magnets on the factory speakers are physically smaller because they are neodymium magnets versus the ferrite magnets on the Alpine which are larger but less efficient.
My alpine doors speakers are not as loud as the stock speakers. Does anyone know any settings to improve this.
@@noelyboy6969 the stock system utilized very efficient speakers that do not require much power. Aftermarket Alpine speakers need much more power than the stock system amplifier feeds to the speakers. The only solution would be to have a professional install a more powerful afterrmarket amp amp to drive the alpines. That may not be worth the effort, cost, or issues associated with.
Hi Guys I have the model 3 RWD so no sub, how does it sound with the speakers installed but no sub? Would that configuration still be worth it? Cheers Jon
Really useful video! I ordered the hepaking DP series speakers for my M3 RWD. Really good service from them and sound is definitely better. Now I need to activate the tweeters and install the subby I bought. Fun times ahead!
Did you install and have you encountered any problems at all?
Hello. I am curious of the amplifier situation of a 2023 Model 3 Standard Range and how it compares to AWD. In the AWD, do I understand it to have 2 amplifiers ? If so, what is the wattage and what does each serve ? Is it one amp serving just the sub and one amp for all the tweeters/mids/woofers ? What is the wattage of the SR amplifier ?
I still prefer a treated paper type cone on a midrange and woofer. Better sound replication to my ear. These exotic carbon fiber cones are for show only imo.
What color is wrap on your car? It’s nice. 👍
the alpine dp65c speakers are not available anywhere
Well I hear on model3 highland the 2 subs they are on the deck with 2 amps
Great how-to piece! So, I have a 2023 M3. Should I first buy the Hanshow elec override harness that activates the inactive speakers before upgrading any speakers?
Also, since I am a rear-wheel-drive guy, what upgrade package is best for me?
great channel!!
I have the same question. Is there even a sub or amp in the base model - 3?
@@quicka78base model 3 RWD does not come with a subwoofer or amp.
Can you post a video about replacing the subwoofer on 3 row model Y?
is that a standard tesla red or does it has a premium sound....
Hi Great video! See there are a lot of links but is there one that includes a kit? Thanks!
What about the speaker up neard your head in the pilar ?The ones up there are the worst and no one changes them .I cant find i speaker or video on them being changed out .
They are glued on the roof line, you can turn it off by switching off the immversive sound effect
Have you done an upgrade of an SR+ Are the speakers already in the doors? Do you need a new wiring loom from the car audio computer?
Man this has to be the best install video I have seen to date!!! Now i'm guessing if I order these on HDK, they come pre-installed meaning I would just have to plug and play? Also what size and ohms is that subwoofer? i'm also curious has to why you only installed speakers in the front but not the back? Doesn't that affect the overall sound quality as to replacing all speakers? Sorry for the questions I just want to make sure I get the best sound quality possible!
GREAT SOUND IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING BRIAN 😎🔇
Where is the link at to get those speakers sir?
Thanks for the informative video
I have a 23 model 3 RWD that doesn't come with sub and amp, any solution or video for my situation?
i would like to know too. but RWD comes with 1 amp but no sub.
I would like to know as well.
I have the same question. Us RWD folks need help too
DEMO?please ;)
Wow what wrap is that, it’s gorgeous!!!
I missed if this M3 is upgrading from SR+ or Long Range/Performance Sound Sytem?
This is a long range/performance speaker upgrade
didn't they take the center speaker out of the system in the last year? Since the magnets are bigger doesn't the volume decrease?
Hi. I am a new subscriber. Do you know if the Alpine speakers work with a 2022 Model 3 performance with premium sound system?
@HEPA King Do you know what the max mounting depth is for the OEM Tesla subwoofer enclosure?
I accidentally pulled clip off of red/green wire under dash when replacing HVAC filters. Does it matter which hole I reinstall clip on. Any suggestions on how to reattch clip to red green wire.
Do you know of a solution to install an external speaker to a 2018 model 3 performance ?
Looks like a nice system. The website is not clear as to what exactly I need to buy. Is there a kit part# or do I need to buy everything individually?
Tengo una duda.
El Model Y los altavoces que monta son iguales o son diferentes?
Cuántos altavoces monta en total?
Me encantan tus vídeos.
Gran elección con Alpine.
will this same kit work for the Model -3 base trim level RWD.
Does Teslas come with built in cross overs from the factory that would block out bass from going to the tweeters so they don’t pop?
Yes, they run on active crossover
How many ohms or wattage are the speakers
Between this and lightharmonic speaker that you did review on, which one is better?
Please tell me that Alpine sells this for Model X? ;)
Which speaker mounts/wiring do I need from the first link with the set of speakers you are using here?
Going to replicate your set up.
We have the full set with speakers assembled, or mount and harness only too.
Are those tweeters next to the midranges in the dash?
Does it come with the foam ring? If not where to order from? Thanks 🙏
Bought the kit and sub only to find I don’t have a stock subwoofer 😂
2022 ryzen chip compatible though?
Light harmonics ultimate speaker system. What do you think vs that alpine setup. I have 2022 M3LR.
1 other thing. Does the now powerful speakers mess with anything power wise be electrical or power from car
I genuinely thought it was purposely in the video ironic 😂
Plug and play.. Could prob get than dinner is less than 2 hrs even if you take your time.
Where did you get the blue trims from ? And does alpine sell them or did you make them ?
Would it be worthwhile buying without the sub speaker.
Yes
Should've replaced the amp too...
Aww shouldn’t of said anything about the static lol. We would of assumed just trolling us about sound upgrades
2019 SR+ here. No subwoofer. I want to know how to *add* an amp and sub. Anybody know of good solutions?
Excellent.
Can this alpine set be installed into an 2023 M3SR?
Yes, but not with the subwoofer. SR doesn't have the subwoofer
@@hepaking4053 how much bass improvement does it make without the subwoofer?
@@brandonng6000 Without changing the amplifier the bass wouldn't increase. But it would be much more cleaner and detail from these.
One of the other reason, is that the other speakers high-mid-bass when the volume gets higher they started to distort. So it would also makes user not to tune up the volume. With upgrading the speakers even when volume is higher it would sound better. Hence more bass when volume are up
It looks like you did not use the crossovers that come with the front speakers, is that correct?
My presumption is there are no passive crossovers included unlike ordering speakers direct from alpine. It would be presumed that they are using Tesla factory passive/digital crossovers and crossover points. Not sure if Tesla uses an inline passive crossover/cap inline to the door speaker as I hope they do or that alpine tweet in the door is screaming with a high potential of burning out. I also saw the mid dash tweet was not swapped out in this install and not sure why the kit would not include one as I personally would have swapped it out. I also would have added a grated material over the internal port hole on the sub box and then filled it with 20-30% of the volume with poly fill. The new sub has a larger magnetic displacement and shrinks the air volume of the enclosure. Adding the fill would add a lower frequency to the sub while also lowering its power consumption.
This may be a project for me this spring.
@@meseone920 do you think the speaker upgrade will use up more power?
@@trelisashorty5580 - The factory amp produces the same amount of power regardless. Now if the impedance of the speakers are lower than the factory the amp will increase draw/output. So really the increase in audio is just the speakers quality/frequency and setup. A day will come when someone creates an adapter to convert the Tesla audio signal in to after market equipment and then the full rewrite/system upgrade will occur using the tablet as the control/audio source not the factory output.
Don’t upgrade speakers without a DSP
Is it same for a 2021 model 3 RWD??
Its not the same, the model RWD (SR) do not have the subwoofer
How does it compare to the Light Harmonics? I assume better? On a % scale how much better than stock and from the light harmonic speakers?
Thanks!
Oops nm. Spoke too soon. Watching your other video now, but if you could elaborate more (% wise) that'd be great.
Are you under powering the subwoofer ?
a little but Alpine stated that their subwoofer only need 40% of the rated power to get the subwoofer power properly
I WANT MY MONEY BACK. BAR none
Speaker upgrade for one of the road nosiest cars on the road. Love the irony. 😅
Light harmonic or Hepaking?