You probably saved me a fortune by explaining how a potential overfill of fluid could lead to transmission failure. I'm going to think better of my idea on how to fix it and take it to a shop. Appreciate the thoroughness of the video!
Did you have the downpipe and midpipe removed for this procedure? I attempted this today and it's damn near impossible getting a wrench in there with the exhaust in place
I had a 2016 Escape, and a 2020 Fusion the transmission had a drain plug, and a fill hole under tge hood. I have a 2021 Explorer and I can not find any information on if it has a drain plug and fill hole. I like to do spill and fill everything 30,000.
The manual reads to put the engine in test mode, running 4000 rpm. What's your take on it? We didn't see much difference between stationary and 4k rpm. My transmission (PHEV hybrid) was at 6 (as in almost nothing). Unfortunately damage was probably already done
@@СергейЗубенко-с4о between 3.5 and 4.5 ish. If it's below a 3 you should probably pull some fluid out. If it's at a 6 which according to the forums and the Facebook groups most of the explorers especially the ST's came from the factory low on ATF. BUT when checking, like the video said, make sure the transmission is up to operating temp.
I have an electric vacuum hose that I use for oil changes on my Explorer ST. Do you think I could use this to pull the transmission fluid from the dipstick?
It’s many years ago but if I recall correctly, this occurred on my 2007 4.6 L Explorer with the 6T60 transmission. I had to drop the pan and waste all the Mercon LV that I had just put in! I managed to find another dip stick at a local junk yard
I just bought a 2020 explorer xlt with 50,000 miles a month ago. Today i noticed the trans cooler apears to be leaking a couple of drops of fluid on the ground when parked. Will ford cover the repairs ?
You would think that would fall under Powertrain and be covered to 60,000, but I’m pretty sure radiators and coolers fall under the bumper to bumper warranty or 3 years / 30,000. It’s not right and I definitely don’t agree with it, but……
@@bruhbedrivin I was thinking the was a recall on some 2020 Explorers with certain build dates but I took a quick look and didn’t see it. I have seen a transmission cooler leaking on one and I’ve heard of more so apparently it’s becoming a problem.
What a horrible design!!! Seeing on the ST forums that alot of these from the factory are coming low, over 1-4 quarts LOW from the factory... So if I don't have a lift, I have to raise and get under the vehicle while it is running to check the tranny fluid... unreal...
I’ve seen a lot of them that people thought were low and wanted to add fluid to. Usually it was because they didn’t have the transmission at the proper temperature to check it. I had another tech ask me to look at one the other day he thought was low. It had been running on a hoist for 30 minutes and he thought it should be warm enough. A temp probe showed it was only up to 180. The fluid level will come up 1 to 1 1/2 numbers between 180 and 210. He also thought the fluid should be in the middle of the dipstick, which was wrong. On that one it was suppose to be between 3 and 4 1/2, which was the lower third of the dipstick. There are a few applications out there that it goes between 4 and 6, which is the bottom. The valve body takes up most of the pan area on these transmissions. That’s why the fluid level changes so much from temp changes. Half a quart will raise the level 1 to 2 numbers so I doubt anyone actually added 4 quarts. I don’t think one of these would even move if it was two or three quarts low. The manufacturers still claim the reason for this style of dipstick is that people don’t check the fluid level properly, add extra fluid, causing the fluid to get into the gear set and turn into foam, leading to transmission failure. That’s probably true, but I think a better fix would be to design a transmission that could run a couple quarts over full if that’s where everyone wants to run them. Just my two cents on it.
Nailed every question anyone could have with this video. Good stuff.
Thanks
Thanks for the nice concise video and explanation.
Glad it helped.
You probably saved me a fortune by explaining how a potential overfill of fluid could lead to transmission failure. I'm going to think better of my idea on how to fix it and take it to a shop. Appreciate the thoroughness of the video!
Excellent job! I just subscribed, because you answered every question I had in a short vid. Bless you Sir.
Very well done video, thank u
You’re welcome!
good info, thank you!
Awesome, informative video, thanks so much!
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Well done! Very good video
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Thanks!
Did you have the downpipe and midpipe removed for this procedure? I attempted this today and it's damn near impossible getting a wrench in there with the exhaust in place
I had a 2016 Escape, and a 2020 Fusion the transmission had a drain plug, and a fill hole under tge hood. I have a 2021 Explorer and I can not find any information on if it has a drain plug and fill hole. I like to do spill and fill everything 30,000.
Are police intercepter 3.3L engine different transmission or is the same since you said is 3 different ones ?
10R60, 10R80 and the hybrid version of the 10R80. A lot of the police cars are the hybrid.
@@CarShopTalk is that the 3.3L natural aspirated motor ? Thank you so much for the info **I have the 2021 FPIU 3.3L natural Aspirated motor
@@danielgabriel5549 yes, they are.
The manual reads to put the engine in test mode, running 4000 rpm. What's your take on it? We didn't see much difference between stationary and 4k rpm. My transmission (PHEV hybrid) was at 6 (as in almost nothing). Unfortunately damage was probably already done
Do you recall fluid capacity in the 10r60?
I think from empty the capacity is like 13 quarts, but if your just dropping the pan you’ll need more like 5 to 7
thanks
Whats the correct measurement for full? Between 2.5-3?
It’s different on different models and years. What’s it on?
Ford explorer ST 2023 3.0 l@@CarShopTalk
@@СергейЗубенко-с4о between 3.5 and 4.5 ish. If it's below a 3 you should probably pull some fluid out. If it's at a 6 which according to the forums and the Facebook groups most of the explorers especially the ST's came from the factory low on ATF. BUT when checking, like the video said, make sure the transmission is up to operating temp.
Do you still have to go from park to drive and back to park with the transmission before checking the level?
I usually do, but unless it’s been parked for quite a while it’s probably not required.
I have an electric vacuum hose that I use for oil changes on my Explorer ST. Do you think I could use this to pull the transmission fluid from the dipstick?
Yes
What should the level be when cold and when hot?
They don’t specify cold fill, only at operating temperature. Usually it’s about one number lower cold
Impossible to drop the little dipstick HOWEVER mine was super brittle and half of it BROKE OFF and fell in the transmission! Darn it! So, be carefull.
What’d you end up doing?
It’s many years ago but if I recall correctly, this occurred on my 2007 4.6 L Explorer with the 6T60 transmission. I had to drop the pan and waste all the Mercon LV that I had just put in! I managed to find another dip stick at a local junk yard
I just bought a 2020 explorer xlt with 50,000 miles a month ago. Today i noticed the trans cooler apears to be leaking a couple of drops of fluid on the ground when parked. Will ford cover the repairs ?
You would think that would fall under Powertrain and be covered to 60,000, but I’m pretty sure radiators and coolers fall under the bumper to bumper warranty or 3 years / 30,000. It’s not right and I definitely don’t agree with it, but……
@@CarShopTalk oh ok. I think there may be a tsb on it. Im going to call ford and see. Thanks for the response 👍🏾
@@bruhbedrivin I was thinking the was a recall on some 2020 Explorers with certain build dates but I took a quick look and didn’t see it. I have seen a transmission cooler leaking on one and I’ve heard of more so apparently it’s becoming a problem.
@Shop Talk i just checked the level with the explorer running it was at 6. When i shut it off its at 3. Is that normal?
@@bruhbedrivin the torque converter drains back when the pumps not turning. That’s why it has to be checked with the engine running.
What a horrible design!!!
Seeing on the ST forums that alot of these from the factory are coming low, over 1-4 quarts LOW from the factory... So if I don't have a lift, I have to raise and get under the vehicle while it is running to check the tranny fluid... unreal...
I’ve seen a lot of them that people thought were low and wanted to add fluid to. Usually it was because they didn’t have the transmission at the proper temperature to check it. I had another tech ask me to look at one the other day he thought was low. It had been running on a hoist for 30 minutes and he thought it should be warm enough. A temp probe showed it was only up to 180. The fluid level will come up 1 to 1 1/2 numbers between 180 and 210. He also thought the fluid should be in the middle of the dipstick, which was wrong. On that one it was suppose to be between 3 and 4 1/2, which was the lower third of the dipstick. There are a few applications out there that it goes between 4 and 6, which is the bottom. The valve body takes up most of the pan area on these transmissions. That’s why the fluid level changes so much from temp changes. Half a quart will raise the level 1 to 2 numbers so I doubt anyone actually added 4 quarts. I don’t think one of these would even move if it was two or three quarts low. The manufacturers still claim the reason for this style of dipstick is that people don’t check the fluid level properly, add extra fluid, causing the fluid to get into the gear set and turn into foam, leading to transmission failure. That’s probably true, but I think a better fix would be to design a transmission that could run a couple quarts over full if that’s where everyone wants to run them. Just my two cents on it.