Dude. I don't comment on anything ever. I'm a new technician at a Ford dealership and this has helped so much. Pretty sure you just solved my problem. I'm going in tomorrow on a Saturday a week after having a kid to for this problem. Thank you.
Ford needs to come up with a way to have the owners update their own vehicles. Engine knocking? Press 1. Transmission slipping? Press 2. Rear end grinding? Press 3. If all the above is happening here’s a direct number to a LKQ…you’ve been a valued customer.
I have a 2021 Bronco that had bad shifting/failure to shift issues, serviced 3000 miles ago. They mentioned a re-learning procedure, so I think it was related to this TSB. No probs so far, thankfully!
Lot of parts changing on a fairly new tranny. Makes you wonder how it's going to hold up when it gets over 100k miles! You did a very good explanation of the TSB's :)
Great vid! I’m sitting here in front of work waiting for the boss to show up. There is construction going on to the building next door near where I’m parked. I hear that new Ford chime. I turn around and it is a flatbed Ford F550. The worker had the passenger side door open….LOL.
I went to vacation before I got to see what my master tech was told after taking the data, but a 2021 frontier was having 1-2 delayed hard shifting. No tsb currently, Nissan engineers just asked for multiple different active trans data while driving the vehicle. Guess we’ll see tomorrow!
This brings back memories of the 4R70w with the snap ring breaking on the overdrive band servo causing it to neutral out. Irrelevant, I know. But boy was it an easy fix if it didn't kill the separator plate.
My wife had this same color 2020 and 2 sets of trans clutches were smoked by 10k miles and a 3 showing it’s face. Drove it down to Honda and traded it in.
Thank you so much! My 2022 Ford Explorer RWD 2.3 with 20k miles was giving me so many shifting problems. I hated driving it but was so busy working as an EMT that I put off bringing it in to dealership for so long. Finally, after it threw me foward after shifting so hard, I turned toward the dealership. They did not want to take it asap nor give me a loaner but after I barked a little they were awesome enough to check it out and take keys that day. They verified the car to be slipping and harsh engagements between 5-8 gears, burned fluid, Trans rat out of specs, valve walls were scored , failed air pressure check, etc. Got a new trans put it in about 20days total! I knew I wasnt crazy and there's not a lot of people talking about it tbh
@@anthonyzarate0827i had the same issue they refused to change whole transmission instead they repaired it and 3 weeks now and it is starting to make the same harsh shifting…i like my car but this is really frustrating
It seems like all manufacturers are having shift issues with automatic 6 or more speed transmissions. But it’s odd that the two service bulletins aren’t combined when both the 6 and 8 are having the same issues? Do you handle transmission internals, or have a transmission specialist there that you send it over to? So many specialty tools, but I suppose the dealership would have them all?
Excellent video thanks for this Sir I just had this exact problem and had it rectified at my current dealer. I am still experiencing a jerky downshift now from for two to one especially when the car is cold but it's a lot more subtle than the horrendous 7 to 6 downshift problem. Do you think there's still something wrong with the transmission or is this just an operating characteristic of the 10 speed in the explorer thanks again for your input!
I really liked the 2013 F150 Ecoboost I owned. First brand new car I purchased. Awesome power and decent fuel economy. I was all TSBed out though by the time I traded it to be honest.
I think it should have been a re and re for the updated transmission. One small group of rebuilders all set to go for the cores as they come in. For the average tech to get enough experience to do the job perfectly is going to take a while and what if they forget something...then it has to come apart again? Right back to the manufacturer under warranty whoever built them. Then the customer gets the right fix the first time(more often) hopefully. Very astute diagnosis.
Yeah I get that but I want you to comment on the two tsb's together Leave your thoughts on what my point of this video was I'm not so concerned about doing the job but these two tsb's really need to be combined they don't need to be separate for situations like this especially
@@FordBossMe the ones that I have done really didn’t have any other shifting issues. Maybe a little weird, but I think that was due to the fact that when the snap ring comes out it completely smokes the A clutches and burns the crap out of the fluid.
I have this issue with my explorer. 1000 miles past warranty. How much longer do I have before this car leaves me on the road? Dealer quoted me $5500 . I don't have that 😕
@@kylestewart8354 get your dealer to submit the job under good will. We do that kind of thing all the time for customers just out of warranty. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Keep speaking up until you get help.
My wife got a 2020 explorer last year and the second we got the chance of getting her out of it we did! hard shifting, issues with it not recognizing keys, not remote starting, not to mention she would start the vehicle it sounded like the starter was grinding the fly wheel really bad right under the seat !! Terrible design! I love my 2021 f150 but I think that’s it’s own beast as well I’m having rattling issues In the cab and also a weird issue with the self driving feature with it not recognizing the road lines and trying to take exits I don’t want to and slamming on breaks with no one in front of me at all
So glad I bought 12 Santa Fe's Instead of Ford's. I really wanted to support Ford, especially since they didn't take bailout money, but watching this channel changed my mind
You are seeing a Ford Tech providing advice to other Techs. The Hyundai techs are just as busy. Our new Sonata just got a new engine under warranty. Our other Hyundai has a new radiator and water pump, also warranty. Both of our Hyundai's have had lots of warranty work, my Elentra and wife's Sonata. My F350 4x4 diesel has not had any warranty work done. You are taking this channel in the wrong way.
what they really need to do is address the CDF drum bushing sliding forward on the 10r80's (ford trans tech here) the hoops they have you jump threw with these 10speeds is a joke and its a roll of the dice most of the time. ive found to remove the pan find a bunch of aluminum in the pan remove the valve body and air test the C and D to find the cdf drum problem. ive had a crap ton of the 7-6 down shift issues i dont ever put it in manual mode ill get up to 45-50mph and let it coast down if it slams down then ill check build date and go from there. issue with the early style is that the ring in the pump doesnt have dimples in it to keep the snap ring in place that over time causes the snap ring to work itself out. but i do love these transmissions its made me quiet a bit of money lol
I have the 7-6 problem with my explorer. 1k out of warranty. Dealership quoted me $5500. I don't have that much money to spend on this repair. How long do I have before this tyranny completey fails? Right now I'm driving in sport mode in town so the transmission never shifts into higher gears. And I shift into Neutral when slowing down from 50+mph speeds. Anything to avoid the 7-6 shift.
After doing the rebuilt, has there been any customer complaints about the transmission having a rev whine noise? This happened to my 2020, and now my transmission sounds like a Tesla in reverse. My dealership is calling it normal behavior.
I tried to pause it to get those Labor times .....LOL.... should have seen me!!!! can rebuild an engine but can work my laptop,.........LMFAO....... Great video my man !!!!! #PROVEHYMWRONG
I was wondering if you could give me some guidance. My sister whom after working hard for decades in retail decided to treat herself by purchasing a used 18' Mustang gt convert with the 10r80. Nice car but she's experiencing odd shifts and extremely hard shifts into 3rd and 5th gear. So hard that it bucks the whole car back and forth. Feels like someone driving manual for the 1st time. Do you know of a dealer with in an hour or so drive of chicago that's well versed in the 10r80 and mustang, that you could recommend. I was thinking of Hawk, golf mill, or packey webb. The odd thing about the transmission is that when the driving mode is in Normal it doesn't slam into 3rd and 5th gear, although it still shifts inconsistently and slightly rough at times in all gears. So in the modes Sport, Track, and even Winter it shifts hard into 3 and 5. Makes me think it's a programming issue. An owner of a 2018 Ford F-150 5.0 stated that he finally fixed his 10r80 issues when the service tech turned adaptive learning off, although he didn't have the slam shift issue in 3&5. Any advice or dealer/shop you could recommend would be greatly appreciated. Like the channel, could see it growing into something big....
This is exactly what’s going on with my 2020 Explorer. I took it to a Ford garage and he tried SOMETHING,(I know nothing about cars, so I can’t even tell you what it was) but it did NOT fix the problem. How do I communicate to the service department that THIS is what needs to be done?
Hi I learned a lot from you , Where can I get those TSBs that you got ,I have a Ranger 2023 2.3L with a 10R80 Transmission and I know sooner or later mine will have some problems Thanks You
I’ve got a 2018 F150 2.7L with the 10 speed. I’ve been to my dealer a few times for Garda shifts. I notice it going from 4-3. Their fix has been to reset the adaptive shift strategy. The problem is still there. I’m very frustrated with this truck. Any tips?
They don’t need to be combined it says “1. Is the vehicle a 2020 Explorer/Aviator, equipped with a 10R60 transmission, built on or before 19-May-2020 and exhibiting a harsh 7-6 gear downshift? (1). Yes - this article does not apply. Refer to other service articles for this condition. (2). No - proceed to Step 2.” It specifically tells you their is another article pertaining to that concern and do it first. The 7-6 downshift is so hard you will think you hit something when that condition exists. It’s not a slight downshift issue.
Explain myself very clearly on why I was very articulate when I explained it to the point on why they need to be combined and if you have to say anything outside of that you better go somewhere else with your nonsense
My 22 Explorer ST has 20k miles and it sometimes tries to shift too quick, and most of the time when I get down in it, the transmission seems like it takes its time shifting into 3rd and 4th gear.
I have a 22 St and for the most part my shift are nice, the only thing I noticed were hard down shift in sport mode when I first got it. After maybe 3 k miles it calmed down a lot. Sitting at 10k miles now and I don’t have any complaints with the trans. Getting it tuned soon which will clean up the trans even more.
Heard any of the rear diffs clicking/popping on take off and stop real loud in them? We’ve got 10 and 4 of them are doing it. Ford sent a complete rear diff for mine. Next appointment for the second one is 10/18
It's something to do with the steel rims the way they amount to the knuckles and order the axle nut or the shims that are in front of the axles where they go through the hubs a lot of these cop cars do that and it's super annoying
@@FordBossMe mine is a hybrid and let me tell you how loud it got! It was awful. The first trip to the local dealership they torqued the axle nut which I questioned why it would have been loose and it lasted 30 miles. Second trip got axle nuts and half shafts along with a hub. That lasted 400 miles. Switched dealerships and Ford sent them a “complete rearend” which to me meant rear diff I figured.
My 2020 explorer intermittently gets stuck in first gear. Won’t shift up. Have to turn off the car and let computer reboot. Ford dealer can’t find the trouble and hasn’t fixed it yet.
Ford Boss, I have been looking for some good discounts on a set of adjustable head prybars like the reference ones. If you get some to review, see if you can get a discount code like the little handheld scanner I ordered for my son. Thank you making videos for us!!!!
I’m looking to buy a 2021 Ford ranger. I am a full time Kenworth technician and pretty familiar with working on modern automotive electrical technology. Would you advise staying away from the Ford ranger?
I have a 2018 f150 2.7 with a 10 speed that shifts harsh from 3rd to 4th in the mornings. It lags and then finally kicks hard into 4th. Is this common? 52k miles. Love your videos man!
Unfortunately, yes it is common more than likely somebody's going to need to clean out the valve body you could have some internal transmission issue going on
@@FordBossMe 2020 ecoboost mustang 10 speed. 13k miles my 10 speed shifts super hard on any acceleration into 4th super jerky and very hard. I also have had it stall out no power off of a turn off on a main street 2 times once at 500 miles and the 2nd time at 7200 miles. I have had the adaptive learning for the transmission reset multiple times it sorta smooths it out but still is giving me headaches. It also clunks from reverse into park. Any ideas what to do? I'm really wanting to just get rid of this thing its so annoying and ridiculously rough.
We have a 21’ Explorer with the 2.3L. Have you had any experience with grab and release feel coming up to a stop. I mean from 15 mph and down easing to a stop like you would in a neighborhood. Almost feels like the torque converter locking and unlocking. Gets on my nerves.
There is a tsb that talks about the A-Pack Trans Front drive Snap Ring Coming off causing harsh 7th gearshift and down shift and possible debris in valve body Look through my library on the 2020 explorer
@@FordBossMe do you mind doing a video on the differences between diesel oil and gasoline oil one day? I’ve heard and read some people swear by using Rotella T6 or similar in a gasoline engine, but really don’t have any facts to support it. Is one really better than the other? What are the main differences between the two?
We have two at work and both are junk. The one does exactly what you describe. The other one has been at two dealers more than being driven for various transmission problems. They keep replacing parts and it cames back and a day or two later another issue.
What about a bounce when finishing a shift? Like when it shifts from 5th to 6th or 6th to 7th it feels like it bounces right when the shift completes... The thing is literally anything over 2k rpm upshifts it's kinda of a hard and funny feeling shifts... Anything below 2k most of the time is buttery smooth but that's being very light on the gas.. maybe I need to take my 2020 ranger into my dealer instead of trying to figure out how not to let it shift so hard and have an enjoyable ride instead of me overthinking every shift so I don't ruin my tranny in the long run cause of some programming issue or something... It's got 15k miles on it... Don't wanna keep letting it shift funny and it be bad for it...
Can we clear the shift strategy so it relearns a new one? My 2021 E450 delays some shifts and it may have been the way I drove it when it was learning. Disconnect battery for a while?
We purchased a 2020 Expedition Max RWD which had the transmission temperature spike really hot, then start dumping transmission fluid. I'm not sure if the fluid was coming from a vent hose or what. The dealer said they need to replace CVS clutch. Is anyone familiar with this? This occurred the day after purchase, have literally driven it twice including 2 test drives. I'm wondering if we should immediately get rid of this thing or if the repair will resolve this long term.
@@FordBossMe have you heard of this issue before? Curious if it is common and permanently solvable with this repair or if it will just live in the shop.
Don't know why ford is having such a hard time with these transmissions when they were co-designed with GM, and GM isn't having as many issues. I have a 6F35 and the best thing i ever did was get an aftermarket tune that fixed the gear hunting and harsh engagement issues. I'm also changing the fluid in it at least once a year, along with the PTU as these are common problems.
@@TheBandit7613 I have a 2.0T fusion and got a handheld tune from Livernois motorsports. I believe they do most of the ecoboosts. Some of the more advanced forum members have been able to change some things using forscan and other programs, i know the focus RS guys have been able to tune the RDU(rear diff) to accept different torque and front to rear bias levels.
My 2019 10R80 vibrates out of 1st, has a delayed shift when getting out of 3rd, and won’t stay in 10th gear. When I stay long in enough in 10th I get a P07F7 (incorrect ratio). At Highway speeds it will refuse to shift up to 10th and stay on 9th. Would you say it’s the valve body or CDF drum or both?
Hello Sir. I just watched this video and I feel like crying but that’s not going to help anything. Do you know has Ford made any updates to this issue? I bought a used 2020 Explorer with less than 50k miles and I’m experiencing the same thing
2018 F-150. They just replaced fluid, 2 pressure plates and filter. Holds 1st gear when starting off for the day, slams into second, or, skips 2nd and slams into 3rd. Once warm (after about 3 times) it shifts fine. What the freakin hell could this mean?
Take it back to the dealer take it right back to whoever worked on it and have them look at it again and explain that to them I'm not a transmission guy and I've never claimed to be a transmission guy I know if enough to get myself around a transmission but the best bet is for you to take it right back to where you had it worked on
Hi there, I have a 2020 explorer st. When I change gears it is making a clicking noise. Have you seen this similar problem. This is what this video is describing?
So you need to be more specific when you're talking about changing gear do you mean going from Park to reverse or park to drive and there's a clicking noise
@@FordBossMe hahahaha I wasn’t paying attention,2012 6 speed Ford Explorer,all most every time come of the highway it slams (5-4) or (4-3) fluid has about 5k miles on it. If you have time,you can point me in the right direction.thanks boss man. 👍🏻👍🏻
Three prior explorers, 2006 - junk, bad transmission at 85k miles, a 15 and 17 with zero problems, just change the oil. Went to get a new 21 explorer and said no thanks, got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, will see how that works out.
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I'm glad you make these videos so people can understand what working on modern cars is like, a lot of computer time and studying service data.
You are very good at what you do sir! Thank you for so much valuable input.
Another great troubleshooting, diagnosis and correction.
Dude. I don't comment on anything ever. I'm a new technician at a Ford dealership and this has helped so much. Pretty sure you just solved my problem. I'm going in tomorrow on a Saturday a week after having a kid to for this problem. Thank you.
Ford needs to come up with a way to have the owners update their own vehicles. Engine knocking? Press 1. Transmission slipping? Press 2. Rear end grinding? Press 3. If all the above is happening here’s a direct number to a LKQ…you’ve been a valued customer.
I have a 2021 Bronco that had bad shifting/failure to shift issues, serviced 3000 miles ago. They mentioned a re-learning procedure, so I think it was related to this TSB. No probs so far, thankfully!
Wow that is crazy labor times for a job like that. Stay safe an God bless
man this makes me glad i purchased my 17 a couple yrs ago
Lot of parts changing on a fairly new tranny. Makes you wonder how it's going to hold up when it gets over 100k miles! You did a very good explanation of the TSB's :)
Great vid! I’m sitting here in front of work waiting for the boss to show up. There is construction going on to the building next door near where I’m parked. I hear that new Ford chime. I turn around and it is a flatbed Ford F550. The worker had the passenger side door open….LOL.
Thanks
I went to vacation before I got to see what my master tech was told after taking the data, but a 2021 frontier was having 1-2 delayed hard shifting. No tsb currently, Nissan engineers just asked for multiple different active trans data while driving the vehicle. Guess we’ll see tomorrow!
Another great video.
This brings back memories of the 4R70w with the snap ring breaking on the overdrive band servo causing it to neutral out. Irrelevant, I know. But boy was it an easy fix if it didn't kill the separator plate.
My wife had this same color 2020 and 2 sets of trans clutches were smoked by 10k miles and a 3 showing it’s face. Drove it down to Honda and traded it in.
Thank you so much! My 2022 Ford Explorer RWD 2.3 with 20k miles was giving me so many shifting problems. I hated driving it but was so busy working as an EMT that I put off bringing it in to dealership for so long. Finally, after it threw me foward after shifting so hard, I turned toward the dealership. They did not want to take it asap nor give me a loaner but after I barked a little they were awesome enough to check it out and take keys that day. They verified the car to be slipping and harsh engagements between 5-8 gears, burned fluid, Trans rat out of specs, valve walls were scored , failed air pressure check, etc. Got a new trans put it in about 20days total! I knew I wasnt crazy and there's not a lot of people talking about it tbh
Replaced on warranty or you paid?
@@majedtech warranty. This was a few months ago. It’s already starting to make the same sounds and jerks too…. Hate this car man
@@anthonyzarate0827i had the same issue they refused to change whole transmission instead they repaired it and 3 weeks now and it is starting to make the same harsh shifting…i like my car but this is really frustrating
@@majedtech Dang, yea, this sucks. This was my first brand new car too. Keep bringing it back
Hi boss. God bless you and hope you're feeling better after your surgery, if you've had it (not sure).
The 28th is when I have it
It seems like all manufacturers are having shift issues with automatic 6 or more speed transmissions. But it’s odd that the two service bulletins aren’t combined when both the 6 and 8 are having the same issues?
Do you handle transmission internals, or have a transmission specialist there that you send it over to? So many specialty tools, but I suppose the dealership would have them all?
Wow!!!!
Great video 👍 any updates please post.
I did the snap ring first fixed the 7-6 (warranty) Then after driving noticed slippage when F applies. Back out again! Explorer ST.
Excellent video thanks for this Sir I just had this exact problem and had it rectified at my current dealer. I am still experiencing a jerky downshift now from for two to one especially when the car is cold but it's a lot more subtle than the horrendous 7 to 6 downshift problem. Do you think there's still something wrong with the transmission or is this just an operating characteristic of the 10 speed in the explorer thanks again for your input!
I really liked the 2013 F150 Ecoboost I owned. First brand new car I purchased. Awesome power and decent fuel economy. I was all TSBed out though by the time I traded it to be honest.
I think it should have been a re and re for the updated transmission. One small group of rebuilders all set to go for the cores as they come in. For the average tech to get enough experience to do the job perfectly is going to take a while and what if they forget something...then it has to come apart again? Right back to the manufacturer under warranty whoever built them. Then the customer gets the right fix the first time(more often) hopefully. Very astute diagnosis.
I have already done 5 of the 7-6 downshift tsb’s on explorers. Can make time on them after the first one. Not too bad of a job.
Yeah I get that but I want you to comment on the two tsb's together
Leave your thoughts on what my point of this video was I'm not so concerned about doing the job but these two tsb's really need to be combined they don't need to be separate for situations like this especially
@@FordBossMe the ones that I have done really didn’t have any other shifting issues. Maybe a little weird, but I think that was due to the fact that when the snap ring comes out it completely smokes the A clutches and burns the crap out of the fluid.
I have this issue with my explorer. 1000 miles past warranty. How much longer do I have before this car leaves me on the road? Dealer quoted me $5500 . I don't have that 😕
@@kylestewart8354 get your dealer to submit the job under good will. We do that kind of thing all the time for customers just out of warranty. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Keep speaking up until you get help.
My wife got a 2020 explorer last year and the second we got the chance of getting her out of it we did! hard shifting, issues with it not recognizing keys, not remote starting, not to mention she would start the vehicle it sounded like the starter was grinding the fly wheel really bad right under the seat !! Terrible design! I love my 2021 f150 but I think that’s it’s own beast as well I’m having rattling issues In the cab and also a weird issue with the self driving feature with it not recognizing the road lines and trying to take exits I don’t want to and slamming on breaks with no one in front of me at all
I think it is typical of everything today. Charge more and give you less.
So glad I bought 12 Santa Fe's Instead of Ford's. I really wanted to support Ford, especially since they didn't take bailout money, but watching this channel changed my mind
They've been having issues to they've got all kinds of stuff going on
You are seeing a Ford Tech providing advice to other Techs. The Hyundai techs are just as busy. Our new Sonata just got a new engine under warranty. Our other Hyundai has a new radiator and water pump, also warranty. Both of our Hyundai's have had lots of warranty work, my Elentra and wife's Sonata. My F350 4x4 diesel has not had any warranty work done. You are taking this channel in the wrong way.
what they really need to do is address the CDF drum bushing sliding forward on the 10r80's (ford trans tech here) the hoops they have you jump threw with these 10speeds is a joke and its a roll of the dice most of the time. ive found to remove the pan find a bunch of aluminum in the pan remove the valve body and air test the C and D to find the cdf drum problem. ive had a crap ton of the 7-6 down shift issues i dont ever put it in manual mode ill get up to 45-50mph and let it coast down if it slams down then ill check build date and go from there. issue with the early style is that the ring in the pump doesnt have dimples in it to keep the snap ring in place that over time causes the snap ring to work itself out. but i do love these transmissions its made me quiet a bit of money lol
I have the 7-6 problem with my explorer. 1k out of warranty. Dealership quoted me $5500. I don't have that much money to spend on this repair. How long do I have before this tyranny completey fails? Right now I'm driving in sport mode in town so the transmission never shifts into higher gears. And I shift into Neutral when slowing down from 50+mph speeds. Anything to avoid the 7-6 shift.
Good to know , if my 10r80 in my Ranger starts this crap it will be gone in a instant. But it's a RWD and a 2021, don't want those kind of issues.
Quality mechanic workmanship pride.
Can you form a sentence?
Getting my 2020 Explorer ST, APIM replaced, NO GPS. 18K miles
Almost every single time accessory protocol interface module
After doing the rebuilt, has there been any customer complaints about the transmission having a rev whine noise? This happened to my 2020, and now my transmission sounds like a Tesla in reverse. My dealership is calling it normal behavior.
I tried to pause it to get those Labor times .....LOL.... should have seen me!!!! can rebuild an engine but can work my laptop,.........LMFAO....... Great video my man !!!!! #PROVEHYMWRONG
Thanks brother
I was wondering if you could give me some guidance. My sister whom after working hard for decades in retail decided to treat herself by purchasing a used 18' Mustang gt convert with the 10r80. Nice car but she's experiencing odd shifts and extremely hard shifts into 3rd and 5th gear. So hard that it bucks the whole car back and forth. Feels like someone driving manual for the 1st time. Do you know of a dealer with in an hour or so drive of chicago that's well versed in the 10r80 and mustang, that you could recommend. I was thinking of Hawk, golf mill, or packey webb. The odd thing about the transmission is that when the driving mode is in Normal it doesn't slam into 3rd and 5th gear, although it still shifts inconsistently and slightly rough at times in all gears. So in the modes Sport, Track, and even Winter it shifts hard into 3 and 5. Makes me think it's a programming issue. An owner of a 2018 Ford F-150 5.0 stated that he finally fixed his 10r80 issues when the service tech turned adaptive learning off, although he didn't have the slam shift issue in 3&5. Any advice or dealer/shop you could recommend would be greatly appreciated. Like the channel, could see it growing into something big....
Come to my dealer Dundee Ford
This is exactly what’s going on with my 2020 Explorer. I took it to a Ford garage and he tried SOMETHING,(I know nothing about cars, so I can’t even tell you what it was) but it did NOT fix the problem.
How do I communicate to the service department that THIS is what needs to be done?
Are there any TSB’s for 3-4 shift delay especially when cold?
Which Explorer comes with 10R80? I thought it’s only come with 3.3 engines
Hi I learned a lot from you , Where can I get those TSBs that you got ,I have a Ranger 2023 2.3L with a 10R80 Transmission and I know sooner or later mine will have some problems Thanks You
Either Google it or ask the dealer too print it off for you
FORD job quality # 8,9,10,11
I’ve got a 2018 F150 2.7L with the 10 speed. I’ve been to my dealer a few times for Garda shifts. I notice it going from 4-3. Their fix has been to reset the adaptive shift strategy. The problem is still there. I’m very frustrated with this truck. Any tips?
There is a technical service bulletin out of the talks about rebuilding the valve body if the adaptive reset doesn't work
They don’t need to be combined it says “1. Is the vehicle a 2020 Explorer/Aviator, equipped with a 10R60 transmission, built on or before 19-May-2020 and exhibiting a harsh 7-6 gear downshift?
(1). Yes - this article does not apply. Refer to other service articles for this condition.
(2). No - proceed to Step 2.”
It specifically tells you their is another article pertaining to that concern and do it first. The 7-6 downshift is so hard you will think you hit something when that condition exists. It’s not a slight downshift issue.
They need to be combined I wouldn't say it if it didn't need to be combined you didn't watch the video go back and watch it
Explain myself very clearly on why I was very articulate when I explained it to the point on why they need to be combined and if you have to say anything outside of that you better go somewhere else with your nonsense
My 22 Explorer ST has 20k miles and it sometimes tries to shift too quick, and most of the time when I get down in it, the transmission seems like it takes its time shifting into 3rd and 4th gear.
I have a 22 St and for the most part my shift are nice, the only thing I noticed were hard down shift in sport mode when I first got it. After maybe 3 k miles it calmed down a lot. Sitting at 10k miles now and I don’t have any complaints with the trans. Getting it tuned soon which will clean up the trans even more.
Do the 22 explorers still have transmission issues?
I have 2020 explorer limited 22000 miles.
Started downshifting rard from 7 to 6...
Front clutch hub in trans needs replaced and a new snap ring
Heard any of the rear diffs clicking/popping on take off and stop real loud in them? We’ve got 10 and 4 of them are doing it. Ford sent a complete rear diff for mine. Next appointment for the second one is 10/18
Yeah it's not the differentials it's where the CV axles go through the hubs the shims and spacers that they have
It's something to do with the steel rims the way they amount to the knuckles and order the axle nut or the shims that are in front of the axles where they go through the hubs a lot of these cop cars do that and it's super annoying
@@FordBossMe mine is a hybrid and let me tell you how loud it got! It was awful. The first trip to the local dealership they torqued the axle nut which I questioned why it would have been loose and it lasted 30 miles. Second trip got axle nuts and half shafts along with a hub. That lasted 400 miles. Switched dealerships and Ford sent them a “complete rearend” which to me meant rear diff I figured.
Is there any updates can help before shit happens??
My 2020 explorer intermittently gets stuck in first gear. Won’t shift up. Have to turn off the car and let computer reboot. Ford dealer can’t find the trouble and hasn’t fixed it yet.
Yeah I don't know it sounds like you got some kind of electrical transmission control failure and it needs to go to the dealership
@@FordBossMe they have it now. Sure hoping they figure it out
Hello sir, 4 wheel fault service required came up on my 2020 ford explorer. Can you tell me what that means or what has to be done. Thank you!
What work has been done to it recently
Ford Boss, I have been looking for some good discounts on a set of adjustable head prybars like the reference ones. If you get some to review, see if you can get a discount code like the little handheld scanner I ordered for my son. Thank you making videos for us!!!!
Meant to say GearWrench type.
Are you talking about the black pry bars with the pivot head that has the Locking tab in it
Can you find a link for me so I can see them
Something like this set. I like the indexing head.
@@mikenonameneeded3485 send me a link I still don't see anything
I’m looking to buy a 2021 Ford ranger. I am a full time Kenworth technician and pretty familiar with working on modern automotive electrical technology. Would you advise staying away from the Ford ranger?
We've had no issues with the Ford Ranger
We have a few dozen new Rangers at work. None have had any issues and they are used pretty hard. Las Vegas public works.
I got a 2022 explorer, sometimes it shifts weird, but i do notice that is has a delay when you put it in reverse i dont know if it is normal.
These new transmissions are real finicky and they are problematic
I usually find the trans fluid about 1 quart low. So I added fluid and clear adaptive tables
Well on this particular one fluid and everything was full so I'm going to have to go off that TSB
I have a 2018 f150 2.7 with a 10 speed that shifts harsh from 3rd to 4th in the mornings. It lags and then finally kicks hard into 4th. Is this common? 52k miles. Love your videos man!
Unfortunately, yes it is common more than likely somebody's going to need to clean out the valve body you could have some internal transmission issue going on
@@FordBossMe 2020 ecoboost mustang 10 speed. 13k miles my 10 speed shifts super hard on any acceleration into 4th super jerky and very hard. I also have had it stall out no power off of a turn off on a main street 2 times once at 500 miles and the 2nd time at 7200 miles. I have had the adaptive learning for the transmission reset multiple times it sorta smooths it out but still is giving me headaches. It also clunks from reverse into park. Any ideas what to do? I'm really wanting to just get rid of this thing its so annoying and ridiculously rough.
We have a 21’ Explorer with the 2.3L. Have you had any experience with grab and release feel coming up to a stop. I mean from 15 mph and down easing to a stop like you would in a neighborhood. Almost feels like the torque converter locking and unlocking. Gets on my nerves.
There is a tsb that talks about the A-Pack Trans Front drive Snap Ring Coming off causing harsh 7th gearshift and down shift and possible debris in valve body
Look through my library on the 2020 explorer
@@FordBossMe do you mind doing a video on the differences between diesel oil and gasoline oil one day? I’ve heard and read some people swear by using Rotella T6 or similar in a gasoline engine, but really don’t have any facts to support it. Is one really better than the other? What are the main differences between the two?
We have two at work and both are junk. The one does exactly what you describe. The other one has been at two dealers more than being driven for various transmission problems. They keep replacing parts and it cames back and a day or two later another issue.
if No
"Check engine"
light is displayed, The Dealership can't Do Anything for you. or i am also told
,"Ive never heard of this issue before"
Yeah that's not true check engine lights don't always have to be present
What about a bounce when finishing a shift? Like when it shifts from 5th to 6th or 6th to 7th it feels like it bounces right when the shift completes... The thing is literally anything over 2k rpm upshifts it's kinda of a hard and funny feeling shifts... Anything below 2k most of the time is buttery smooth but that's being very light on the gas.. maybe I need to take my 2020 ranger into my dealer instead of trying to figure out how not to let it shift so hard and have an enjoyable ride instead of me overthinking every shift so I don't ruin my tranny in the long run cause of some programming issue or something... It's got 15k miles on it... Don't wanna keep letting it shift funny and it be bad for it...
I would say these technical service bulletins apply to that probably the first one
@@FordBossMe thanks a lottt
I'm suddenly less excited to buy a new Explorer.
Are car's becoming a bit too complicated
Can we clear the shift strategy so it relearns a new one? My 2021 E450 delays some shifts and it may have been the way I drove it when it was learning. Disconnect battery for a while?
Chris, you’ll need a scan tool to clear the TCM learn strategy.
You'll need a scan tool like Jimmy said
@@JimmyMakingitwork Thanks
Hey man I know it’s been a year but where are you located? If you don’t mind me asking.
I don't work at the dealership anymore they close down I work at an independent shop as a general manager now in Chicago
We purchased a 2020 Expedition Max RWD which had the transmission temperature spike really hot, then start dumping transmission fluid. I'm not sure if the fluid was coming from a vent hose or what. The dealer said they need to replace CVS clutch. Is anyone familiar with this? This occurred the day after purchase, have literally driven it twice including 2 test drives. I'm wondering if we should immediately get rid of this thing or if the repair will resolve this long term.
Let the dealer work it out you're going to lose money in the long run if you don't
@@FordBossMe have you heard of this issue before? Curious if it is common and permanently solvable with this repair or if it will just live in the shop.
I have not heard of that
My 10r80 in my 19 Mustang GT sounds like a turbo. Ford TSB says its normal...
Yep
Don't know why ford is having such a hard time with these transmissions when they were co-designed with GM, and GM isn't having as many issues. I have a 6F35 and the best thing i ever did was get an aftermarket tune that fixed the gear hunting and harsh engagement issues. I'm also changing the fluid in it at least once a year, along with the PTU as these are common problems.
Ugh ikr... Never felt or heard of a tranny shift like the 10r80 does
What kind of tune?
@@TheBandit7613 I have a 2.0T fusion and got a handheld tune from Livernois motorsports. I believe they do most of the ecoboosts. Some of the more advanced forum members have been able to change some things using forscan and other programs, i know the focus RS guys have been able to tune the RDU(rear diff) to accept different torque and front to rear bias levels.
GM is having plenty of problems with the trans as well.
What kind of tune? Having the same issues on my 6F35
My 2019 10R80 vibrates out of 1st, has a delayed shift when getting out of 3rd, and won’t stay in 10th gear. When I stay long in enough in 10th I get a P07F7 (incorrect ratio). At Highway speeds it will refuse to shift up to 10th and stay on 9th. Would you say it’s the valve body or CDF drum or both?
No telling get it in for service
@@FordBossMe figured I’d ask. Local transmission guy found TSB 21-2323 that describes exactly the CDF clutch problem but it’s issued for the 10R140.
Have you had any issues with 2.3L 10 speed trans on 2021s?
None
Pain in the ass hopefully you opened a second line to claim the first tsb
I claimed Mt on the second line
Hello Sir. I just watched this video and I feel like crying but that’s not going to help anything. Do you know has Ford made any updates to this issue? I bought a used 2020 Explorer with less than 50k miles and I’m experiencing the same thing
They just replace the snap ring and associated components
Get it in asap to get looked at
2018 F-150. They just replaced fluid, 2 pressure plates and filter. Holds 1st gear when starting off for the day, slams into second, or, skips 2nd and slams into 3rd. Once warm (after about 3 times) it shifts fine. What the freakin hell could this mean?
Take it back to the dealer take it right back to whoever worked on it and have them look at it again and explain that to them I'm not a transmission guy and I've never claimed to be a transmission guy I know if enough to get myself around a transmission but the best bet is for you to take it right back to where you had it worked on
My guess is you have a valve body problem or a CDF drum problem
@@FordBossMe what’s odd is that they also stated they did an overhaul of the valve body
Can this fix be done by ANY shop, or only Ford service?
Under warranty has to be through Ford but outside of warranty any trans shop can do it
You ever see a 10R60 on an explorer get smoked due to a thick layer of dried mud on the tranny cooler
No but they're having a lot of problems
Hi there,
I have a 2020 explorer st. When I change gears it is making a clicking noise. Have you seen this similar problem. This is what this video is describing?
Look at my other Explorer videos and then come back and talk to me I don't think you have seen them all go in the library and look at them all
@@FordBossMe
I tired to review them but I can't seem to locate the 1 with my specific "clicking" noise when changing gears
Could you kindly direct me to your video which address this issue. Please and thank you
So you need to be more specific when you're talking about changing gear do you mean going from Park to reverse or park to drive and there's a clicking noise
You got to understand when you come to us and ask us for help you need to be very specific and what it is and not use vague explanations
Morning brother,any chance is there 1 of these for 2012 6 speed,
I don't do Mazda but I'm sure it's similar
@@FordBossMe hahahaha I wasn’t paying attention,2012 6 speed Ford Explorer,all most every time come of the highway it slams (5-4) or (4-3) fluid has about 5k miles on it. If you have time,you can point me in the right direction.thanks boss man. 👍🏻👍🏻
Three prior explorers, 2006 - junk, bad transmission at 85k miles, a 15 and 17 with zero problems, just change the oil. Went to get a new 21 explorer and said no thanks, got a Jeep Grand Cherokee, will see how that works out.