Harley Benton FanFret-7 TPB DLX | The 290€ Multiscale 7-string | In-depth Review
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After watching many of your videos, just wanted to let you know I have always enjoyed how professional you have made them, even from the get go. Love your playing style!!
Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot!
Honestly, I think you should keep it. The big giveaway was that you enjoyed the way it played, and that it sounded nice acoustically. A pickup swap can change the sound completely, even though I personally thought these pickups sound great for the money. The tuning issue can be fixed TO AN EXTENT depending on how shit the originals really are. Looks good, it's unique, plays well, and like you said, the setup is perfect. In my opinion that's reason enough to invest. Workhorse. Also, Jericho just released the "Ignition" series. Pick any body style, pickups (SD, bareknuckles, etc) with a 25.75" or 27" scale length. It only has a bridge pickup, but they start at $485. Same build quality as the rest of my jericho's so it's a real steal. Worth a look.
Thank you for the review. Just a few things, I don't agree with you when you say "at least Jackson knows what they're doing", I think you're going at it the wrong way. Most of those well known brands have their guitars made in the same place as the HB ones, and most with the same specs or very similar, don't think because you're getting a 300€ Jackson or Ibanez that its better than this one, those 100€ more don't mean more quality, or better hardware, you're basically paying retailers, etc. The reason they have such low prices is that they don't have any middle man between production or selling of their stuff nor retailers involved, hence the low prices. I agree that their pickups are not the best, but depending on what you're looking for, even if you bought a 500€ Ibanez, Jackson or Epiphone, you would most likely swap them out for Bare Knuckle pickups or something else Misha Mansoor is promoting at the moment. The Carvin\Kiesel pickups are well known for their high quality so of course they are going to sound better than these cheap ones, but that's the point isn't it? For people who cant afford 900€ or 1000€ guitars to have access to something well built for half the price or more of those brand\signature guitars, and then when we save up to get new pickups we're left with a pretty decent guitar for the price. Just my two cents.
Keep up the good work.
Good point. Not trying to defend the big companies nor bashing Harley Benton here. Guess I'll have to buy that Jackson to make fair comparison ;)
Soulhenge I honestly believe that might not have been your intention that's why I said I disagreed with you on that comment you made and on the comparison with a high end guitar. All in all you as well as other reviewers just prove the HB guitars are a good alternative since you can make them sound good in a mix. And most of the people out there don't even notice the difference after. Like you said good work horses and awesome alternatives for people that are on a budget.
The comparison to my Carvin was awarely chosen though, so people can get an idea what the difference is like, taking both instruments out of the box. I'm not saying the Carvin's tone is 1300€ better than the Harley Benton. I'm well aware that at some pricepoint, the sound will not get noticebly better. If I had a guitar in the mid-range like 600-700€, it would probably be a similar result. A custom is also a lot about looks and feel ;)
You're right though. In the end, I think I may was too harsh with the Harley Benton.
Soulhenge Soulhenge it's OK a lot of people do that but in your case I don't think you're coming from a bad place or with wrong intentions like most that's why I felt the need to comment and give you my opinion. Usually I check Cory Mura or EitschPi42 for HB reviews as they in my opinion are the most honest on HB gear. Anyways like I said keep it up. You got my subscription. Cheers from Portugal.
actually a friend of mine does have a dinky 7. it sounds fine but he had to change the pickups (stock ones were mediocre - not disgusting) and the tuners suck so hard. it is well put together and has a good action and playability, but it's not finished very carefully. i THINK it might well be compared in overall quality with this HB, at least judging by this review
Mate the harley benton looks mint and sounds awesome. To my ear it sounds nicer than the other. I think thats alot of guitar for the money. Really nice review and awesome playing man, Cheers
This is something you could buy if you wanted to try playing a multiscale, esp if you can find it used. After a few months you could sell it on, and but a better instrument if multiscale works for you. I think many people did this with 7- and 8-strings too.
For the price this Harley Benton doesn't sound too bad, although the Ibanez sounded livelier, more dynamics. It's probably the high end, which allows you to hear the transients. As for low-end Jacksons, I heard bad things about them, esp about the pickups.
Hello, after so much time... What do you think of this guitar? I'm thinking of buying one like this, but of the new models, just for the fanfret and the look (I hope they have improved somewhat) I'm more concerned about the tuners than the pickups. Are they really that bad? Do they hold at least the tuning, let's say two or three songs in a row? Thanks! I hope you can reply me and give me your impressions, with years passed...
Kudos on you keeping an open mind and giving the guitar a fair change, but I can't say that I'm surprised about the shortcomings of this guitar.
Absolutely love this channel boyo. Only a matter of time before the subs blow way up
Other set of pick ups and this thing is as good as it gets! Nice Review!!!
Im actually surprised by the quality of your video, amazing guy keep it up
2018 year edition has locking tuners btw, so maybe this problem is solved.
Worth to mention also, Jackson JS32 has only 26.5" scale
Exactly, and if I'm correct it has passive mount pickups so they can be swapped easily.
True that, I consider 26,5" as baritone aswell though.
It has passive mount pickups, but they are slanted, so you need an experienced guitar tech who can dismantle the pickups you want to upgrade and make them slanted haha
LADIES AND GENTS thats how you do a review! and with di tracks too very good job
take note people. take note !
This finish let me remember Ghostbuster slime like from the second Ghostbusters movie when they decided to go down to the channel :)
After seeing your review, i think i want this to be my next guitar. I was worried about the quality and acoustics of this guitar though and i am glad to hear it is made well for it's price. And i can definitely tell it's those pickups that make it sound bad, they aren't terrible but they aren't good either, they sound like they just boosted the mids to make it sound like they had better output. So, for $300 and maybe another $200 for replacement pickups, this seems like the best multiscale to get until you want to spend over $1500.
Edit: immediately after seeing this i found they have a new and improved version for 2018. It comes with locking tuners, a beefier monorail bridge that has an outer housing with saddles inside, but same string through design. And new pickups as well, and they sound slightly better, at least from what i could hear in the review. And they have even kept the price the same, and build quality is still just as good. All in all i see Harley Benton making some waves in the multiscale and extended range scene.
Excellent review,I bought 1,just for the hell of it,the set up was incredible,the sound was weak tunings were annoying so I put a pair of illuminator pickups,and Schaller locking tuners,I'm overwhelmed how great it sounds
do the illuminators fit well in the pickup slots? does it look ok?
+Soulhenge
So, I see DI Tracks from now on? Maybe one left/one right? XD Nice work!!! Great honest review like always.
Yeah, so thrilled!
I just got the 2018 fanfret 6 string and they changed the pickups...They have shit ton of output now haha
Dedede Rules wish I could say the same for the 2018 multiscale 7. Simply said, it's very ok. Or maybe I got unlucky and got a not so good one? Either way I gonna change the pickups sooner or later, but I'm having a hard time finding suppliers of multiscale 7 string pickups
How you changed? i got theFanFret FBB 2018 DLX, and i talked to Thomann and they dont have pickups for that guitar to change?
@@zagaman I guess what he means that Thomann changes the pickups on all the models/the whole product line. Not just the one the OP got.
For those who wonder, I've got a pair of 707x installed on my 2017 fanfret-7 and now it sounds waaay better than stock one. Also with nut cut properly even the stock tuners (2017 has no locking tuners unlike 2018) can provide some decent stability.
Maybe someone sees this and it helps:
I‘ve recently bought one, not the new 2020 version, but one of the last 2018?19? Versions. And I must say, it‘s a really nice guitar for under 300€.
Setup was garbage, but that was to be expected. After oiling the fretboard, polishing the frets and a good setup this guitar is really nice. The pickups are actually decent, I like them more than Ibanez quantum7s. The neck is on the chunkier side. Tuners are good. Bridge is alright, but restringing is a bit of a hassle.
Regarding upgrades: the pickups in mine are definitely 8 string active mounts. I measured them. So no 7 string pickups for this guitar. But you can put an emg808 or fishman 8 string set in there I suppose. Personally I don’t see a need at the moment.
Went as low as Drop E, sounds ok.
Do you think multiscale makes a big difference? I mean, you have played ibanez 8 string, and that guitar has a very long scale length for high strings, was that a big deal ?
I mean I have long fingers so I can play basically anything without huge problems. It's just a thing of being used to, I can just play as good on my RGA8 which has 27" scale. I think multiscale improves playability a bit, but it's not a complete new universe, at least for me.
2020 variant looks even cooler omg it looks like such a cool proposition for the price MultiScale-7 TPB 2020 DLX
Thanks for the compare against the Carvin without mixing, makes the difference a lot clearer.
The real question is: if you spend another 300 bucks on it, how does it compare to a 600 bucks guitar?
Besides, it's so much fun to buy a guitar with potential, swapping parts, finishing the neck.
How well is it weight-balanced? Do you think the neck will dive when I cut away like 0.5 kg of wood from the body? :D
It's pretty neck-heavy :/
Just received mine! The tuners are now “lockable”, I don’t know what name they exactly have, but they’re pretty nice! And the output of the pickups...well I used to record with a baritone LTD with EMG’s and...I used the same preset of Pod Farm and get almost exactly the same tone 🤷♂️ don’t know why, but this worked for me 💪
Nice! Maybe they have a bad consistency in pickup quality, so I might got bad sounding pickups and you lucky man got better sounding ones ;) Enjoy it!
Soulhenge thank you so much! Maybe is that! On the other hand my guitar didn’t come adjusted by a “guitar tech god” haha the neck was so bad set xD so at least I have a non-terrible pickups! Btw your review is so nice 💪💪
Soulhenge they actually changed pickups in the 2018 model. As well as a bunch of other things (like neck shape that got thinner). I'm getting mine soon :P
Go to reverb and get used tuners and a used bridge pickup. I do it all the time with cheap guitars upgrade on a budget. Good luck. Love the channel you're a killer musician.
You should put some ragnaroks in it, I dare you
YES. Please throw Bareknuckle Ragnaroks on it
Please go fund me then xD
They're only saying that because Ragnaroks are the new "thing." Let the hype die down before you even consider buying a set. Novelty-factor just isn't what it used to be. I can think of a few p/ups that would work well in that guitar that would cost nowhere near as much as a set of BKPs. For starters, SD Invaders are pretty great if "middy" tone is your thing. Invaders are what Karl Sanders of Nile uses in all of his guitars. I've heard them described as "Nile tone in a box." If that's not your thing, there are plenty of other SD, Dimarzio, EMG or Fishman products that would probably be more cost-effective than a set of Ragnaroks or Juggernauts, which are essentially custom pickups and are priced to reflect that fact.
One thing to note is that this guitar is a fan-fret guitar and there very few pickup options available for fan-fret guitars. I read in an online forum that Bare Knuckle pickups do make custom pickups with upto 10 degree slant but how would you know what is the right slant for this guitar. Also one thing to note is that the two pickups on this guitar seem to have different slants unlike say Kiesel where the slanted pickups are parallel to each other so their slant must be identical.
@@MilianMalivukMusic Go for a couple EMG Set, its not too expensive as Ragnaroks amd they will sound better than those stocks the guitar brough already
Hey man, great review! What string gauge/set would you recommend for G# tuning on a fanfret guitar? I'm buying this guitar soon and i'm considering to set them up with the Daddario NYXL1164 (011 - 014 - 018 - w028 - 038 - 049 - 064). Do you think this will give me proper string tension and tone for G# tuning? Thanks in advance, keep it up!
Good strings, I think they will do the job, especially on that scale there will be enough tension!
Soulhenge Gear Reviews thanks for your answer. Just noticed that i messed up, i meant DROP G# tuning. Do you think they are right? Or will i habe too much tension on the higher strings?
would you recommend it for morbid angel sorta stuff??
One question...if you would change the pickups, which ones will you put in there? Cause if you put standard pickups, the poles would not be aligned with the strings...any ideas? I’m playing to buy this guitar and I would like to know that haha
These are standard pickups too, they're not slanted! So technically they are not ideal for multiscale but HB had to keep the budget low. You can put anything you want in there.
Soulhenge thanks for the advice! :) I think I’m going to give this guitar a chance for it’s price :)
Soulhenge oh another thing! The 2018 model has slanted pickups (at least in the photos), how do you know this ones are not the same? I am so confused hahaha
Thanks for the video man!
Man I like a lot your playing... Can somebody explain to me what that guitar and barritone 7 and drop tuning is...? you just detune the 7th string or all of them?...
i love the headstock shape on this thing :)
I knew eventually,only the Serious musicians would use the 7-strings,after the hype faded.Great playing,sir.
Hi man, what you think about Harley Benton Baritone 7?? Im guessing what to buy
that demo sounds killer. What would you say about this, or the jackson dkaf 7 string model?
Also, where are you from? I have a feeling you're not american, which brings up the question of shipping a Kiesel
I'm 99% sure that the jackson will have a better neck and better tuners. And a better sound. I'm in Europe, but I ordered a new Kiesel anyway because I'm just a stupid fanboy that needs another :D
This isn't the cheapest multicale on the market (Now), but the deluxe model. Have you looked at the lower end models at all? (Harley Benton R-457/8BK Fanfret) Downgraded tuners and pickups are the major differences I believe.
Hi thank you for this video , i was wondering how you could change pickups on this kind of guitars ? will the coil fit with the holes in the guitar body ?
Thanks a lot for the review!
I would be curious to hear the difference with some good tuners and pickups.
Does the guitar have photo finish? The purple is pretty harsh already. A laminated photo on top would be a deal breaker.
Ha! I know. But not the shitty pickups or weird neck shape!
I have been staring at this guitar on the HB website for 6 weeks trying to make up my mind.
Thanks for the fair and informative review!
Wow, really nice review! Subscribed
very well put together video and very informative
I would love to see a set of pickups in it. You can get a set of tuners for not too much money, just don't go for locking ones.
"That is how it's done" yeah Carvin's a badass.
Don't use steel wool.The dust will kill the picups.Use dry green scrubber pads.Cover the pickups with mask or duct tape.That will keep your pickups clean.
Comparing a relatively cheap Harley Benton to a 4 or 5 times as expensive Carvin is unfair and nonsensical. Harley Bentons are for people who can't afford a Carvin or simply don't want to spend that much on a hobby. It's like test driving a Dacia and complaining it doesn't go as fast as a Ferrari. If a low cost Harley Benton sounded as good as a Carvin, there'd be crowds of guitar players waving torches and pitchforks outside the Carvin factory demanding their money back.
Tuning stability is a valid criticism, though. Even for non-professional players, a guitar that can't hold its tuning is an annoyance. There's no excuse for that.
I gave my disclaimer on that, of course it's unfair ;) I would have used something like a 600€ Ibanez to compare it to IF I had such a guitar - the Carvin is my only 7-string though.
I see no sense in spending 300€ for a guitar that is not staying in tune and not inspiring to play, even if you're broke. It's just wasting your money. Better spend twice the amount and get something you're really happy with and that actually has a proper company name on it. I get your argument, but you shouldn't see this as a comparison with the result being "oh look this 1800€ Carvin is better than this shitty 290€ Harley Benton!". It was just to give some reference.
Torches and pitchforks in front of the factory? Sounds like a true story happening at Gibson right now.
Yeah !! and they'd be lighting up burning crosses on the lawns !!
no its not. And man thanks for the honest review and opinions. You just ordered a Kiesel. The difference in levels between a kiesel and "dude who can afford to drop a few hundred on a cool guitar type he wants .. maybe" is nuts. And show me where i can find a quality 7 fanned fret lefty for 700 and im there ...
For that price though, you would be able to afford some better tuners, and maybe some sort of newer nut!!!??? Plus with the angle the strings go to the tuners, inst there a "roller nut" on the market?? I think I have seen something like that some where?? If not, hey there is an idea. Also you could probably do a pick up swap ( after saving money from buying this guitar over a guitar that might cost 4 or 5 times more) and put better pick ups in from the money you saved...?????????
So those negatives about the guitar, can easily be over looked.... By me anyways....
Harleys arent the greatest guitars...but for the money they are DAMN good
Die sieht geil aus, gibt es die auch als 6 String?
I've made the decision NOT to modify this!
Wow
Why?
Because it's not worth it. The neck is just too uncomfortable. I've spent this money on more useful things such as plugins and stuff. Aaaaaand I've ordered another Kiesel. That's reasonable right? :D
Soulhenge haha okay! What a pity! :) I’ve just bought this one just for give a try to 7 string and multiscale before ordering a Kiesel or another custom guitar haha
Doesn't ordering a Kiesel cost a lot extra with all the import costs/taxes etc you have to pay?
I mean, when playing it through your own custom patch it won't sound close at all :D Maybe increase the gain?
I'm gonna get a Kiesel 7 string with a Tremolo anyway so, u recommend getting this guitar?
Well in that case: not really. I've been told the 2018 have improved neck profiles and standard passive pickups tho, so maybe it's worth another try.
Soulhenge think I'll pass one the Harley, will save for something lol
Kiesels are awesome quality so i have faith in the quality, don't like taking risk when it comes to quality of the neck.
Just wish Kiesel come up with the combination of multiscale and Tremolo
You make great reviews and videos
Can you a video of you upgrading this guitar? I'm in the UK and there is a website called axetec where you can get locking tuners for £30.99 about €28 I think. Would be interesting if you can upgrade it without having to spend alot of money on it as I am interested in buying one for live shows. At the moment I'm down tuning a 26 inch scale length 6 string to drop A while our other guitarist plays a 7 string.
Sick demo track ! Are the drums real or programmed ? They sound great
Lmao the dig on Overload 😆😆 someone’s an unsatisfied customer
Hows the tuning stability?
You can call the "moving around" in the tuners as PLAY or SLOP. ie There is too much play in the tuner gears.
Yes that's the word I was looking for.
The wood specs aren't right, which is surprisingly common. That is indeed a burl top, probably a veneer, and that neck isn't nato. It's maple. Nato is only used for the body, as it's a soft wood similar to basswood. That neck is maple with either mahogany or walnut laminates.
There's also the chance that the "nato" name is used similarly to "mahogany" and "rosewood" and indeed "maple" or "walnut", where it only indicates the family of woods rather than a specific kind. There are many breeds of each of those woods, so the name itself is a bad indicator of what you're looking at. The fretboard might be something else than rosewood rmfor example.
Leave it stock, bro. Might be interesting to have something to compare future, more expensive guitars to. Just my thoughts.
What are you playing threw for this demo please?
Nice review
Sounds awesome
The pups are good just kinda meant for a drive petal or a real gainy patch. With all the OD pedals for under 100, you can make this sound beastly. Or, get some 7 string Dimarzio Deactivators or some knockoff EMG or Duncan stuff. Or, well....there's lots of pup brand out there.
Finally, I'd trust these guys over Jackson. Saying something like "I haven't played it but Jackson knows what they're doing" doesn't exactly set my mind at ease.
Enjoyed the review overall though and the style of giving us some basic tone ideas of how this thing sounds. I'll probably still get one and swap in some hotter pups.
Cheers!
You're right dude. I will get myself such a Jackson to really see and feel what that is like ;)
2018 models fix all the issue, i have 8 string FF dlx 2018 model and it's amazing guitar, pickups are en par with seymour duncans (i've A-B'd them) and locking tuners do wonders
It sounds surprisingly good :D Apart from the pickups and tuners I agree with other and think you should keep it :D
Sounds killer, man!
Definitely worth the 270 euros I paid,if I was you,id invest in the pickups and tuners,you won't regret it,I use this more than my Vader
Please sell me your Vader then 😂
Put some tuners pickups and bridge on it! Gold hardware looks best on purple 👍👍
Could you measure neck thickness at 1st and 12th fret please?
very nice review
This guitar looks great. Just need a pickup and tuners change. Good review
What's the exact name of the blue guitar which he is comparing to?
That blue guitar he plays is a Carvin DC700.
Soulhenge Gear Reviews Thx a lot! Very nice video btw!
Soulhenge Gear Reviews And another question: would you recommend to buy such a "cheap" guitar and beef it up with new pickups and all that good stuff or safe the money and buy a premium instrument instead?
Nice and honest review. Got a mint set of 707Xs from my Boden OS7 to sell, if you want :)
Thanks, but I decided not to pump any money into this. It would be cool to hear but I know that I'm not gonna be happy at long-term. :)
good job mate!
Kann es sei, dass die in der Farbe gar nicht mehr zu kaufen sind?
Kann sein, es kam danach ein neues Modell raus!
Waiting for a new pickups test... keep in mind you'll be able to use them in another guitar if that guitar doesn't help.
Maybe try to find a used EMG set. Believe me, that shit with some love will be better than a cheap Jackson.
Edit: Man, you werent lucky to have bought the 2017 version, maybe the 2018 version would suit you a lot more, since the crucial bugs were fixed. =(
My ideal multiscale would be 28" to 26.5" on a 7 string. My 28" baritone can intonate to Drop F. No ploblem.
Yeah 100% get locking tuners and to save money get used EMGs. 57-66 7 string set or something for this. Even the 81-7 would slay in this guitar. Just to see how it sounds with improved pickups.
If you buy the pickups used, you could always sell them on for your money back if it becomes a failed experiment.
@Soulhenge - Dude buy a Kemper! Then make packs to sell. I would 100% pick them up. You always dial in tones that appeal to me!
Wouldn't even mind giving them away for free just like I do with my POD patches. Kemper is too expensive I think, I wouldn't make use of the profiling feature... I'm keeping an eye on the Helix for a while now, but I'm just too happy with my current "hybrid" sound with the HD500 and the Two Notes impulses.
That's the reason i follow this guy because of his minimalistic gear but monster tone.... kemper and axe fx are just the kool aid of the djent wave we have right now but in reality it's just an overpriced POS that gets dumb people like you persuaded to impulse buy
Soulhenge hey man could you share your pod x3 patches?
+Eric Kindel Well I'm not saying Kempers are useless, they are pretty stunning in fact, but just not what I need.
I have my friend's X3 Pro again at my home so will share some presets this week!
I love my X3 live. If you could man that would be great. Will use them at my band practices.
I wouldn't spend any money again for this, but multiscale for that price? Good luck finding an alternative thats better and doesn't cost over 1000€. Thanks for the review. I better save up for a Kiesel. :)
Clemens Dirnbauer legator guitars. I can't recommend them enough. Especially since they cleaned up their customer service.
Aaron sisco Legator looks also very interesting for the price point!
Maybe, only maybe you can get awy cheply by changing only the volume and tone knob to higher values. but you'd have to check first what's inside yet. Going from (i.e.) 250k to 1,5M for the volume knob should make a big difference in volume and tone, while a higher tone knob value should affect only in a brighter tone...
Maybe some has some experience with this, I only know the theory :-)
*away cheaply
the song got that Shokran - Collapse vibe
put some locking tuners..
I hope it will stay tunned
Yes!
You said something that really does not make sense... if you put lighter strings, they will vibrate more and then, you'll have to setup it higher. You can use thicker strings to get lower action... maybe it's low action is about de high fretboard radius.
I'm a definitely sure that this is correct what I said there. I'm talking about the multiscale here, not about a general rule. If you have a longer scale, you can achieve the same tension with thinner strings. Thin, tight string allow a lower action.
What is the name of the effect at 6:24?
very very nice review about a guitar i was really interested in.was. before i have found IBANEZ RGIF7. have you heard of them?? if you could do a review or express your oppinion about it i would be very happy.
at least read something about that guitar and say something about the specs. i really need to know what do you think.
Actually, I like most the HB neck clean sound than the other guitar...what is more, I do like they sound of the HB more the the other guitar...it is like more dark and nota so crispy
Nice review! But your guitar is really heavy - I owned 2 2017 models weighting 3,5kg and 3,37kg and the new 2018 one I got is also 3,37kg. BTW the 2018 pickups are a bit more open sounding, just uploaded a comparison ;) (that's the reasing this video was suggested for me I guess)
Great And Fair Review, Gorgeous Guitar! Things Will Get Better, Id Love One To 'MOD' and Make Personal🎸✌
Is there a left handed variant available?
+Aidan D: I'd have bought one in the blink of an eye if it were available, but unfortunately, Thomann doesn't show any love for us lefties in the extended range department. :(
Sorry, ignore the earlier message.
They introduced a *7 string left handed fanned fret model* for 2018!
I just checked, and I'm so happy they listened to the cries of us lefties!
Can't wait to get one!
I kinda like the pickups from this test for rhythms. It kinda had a Raspy high gain sound like from the first periphery album. A little tooooo raspy for me but eh idk
Yeah I mean at some point they are not as bad as I stated, like when you really dig in the strings for some chuggs, but then again, it lacks punch.
The hard corner that hurts your forearm is the same as on Schecter guitars. Not unusual, unfortunately.
Exactly. Most, if not all carved top guitars will pose that issue. Players who have skinnier forearms tend to be more sensitive to the lack of forearm contour or bevel. I should know. This is actually why you even see some classical guitarists wearing forearm sleeves.
Dirty riffs! 👌😳
This or the dinky js22?
IMHO Harley Benton make really good budget guitars, and I don't think Jackson can do much better in the same price range.
Also, as other people have said, in the 2018 model, most of the issues here have been fixed.
my ideology is that you buy a guitar based on its construction, ie things you cant change. For instance, I am getting a harley benton fanfret 8 for about 400 USD. Why? Because here's what I want: 1) fanned frets, of course this is one of the cheapest guitars out there with fanned frets 2) Neck through- for this price range, it's ridiculous to get something with both of these features, plus being an 8 string 3) Green quilt top (veneer)- Yeah, I'm a diva. truth is, the way a guitar looks helps inspire you to play it and write riffs on it. I've wanted a green guitar but they are hard to find in general, let alone an 8 string (besides that ibanez one with the emgs, but i want passives), let alone with fanned frets, let alone neck thru. So, with this guitar, I'm looking to change out ALL the hardware with gold, another aesthetic choice I've always wanted, and in doing so I'll also upgrade to better quality hardware. Also, my neighbor is an amateur luthier, and winds his own pickups as well. I will hopefully be able to ask him to wind me some pickups, probably for a decent price . When it's all done, this will be my main guitar for the time being, but if I can become a songwriter and start to get my music out there, I already have a luthier (Scot Woodcock of WE guitars) that will build me a completely custom guitar for around 2500 USD (crazy, right? and yes, he has gotten great reviews), and hopefully an Etherial guitar, being that they are planning to come out with base models around 1250 USD, and they are made of aluminum and carbon fiber, again, amazing reviews. Also amazing looks, as well as a scooped neck, which seems intriguing.
But in the end, if you spent 400 bucks on your instrument that is "to be customized" quality, you'll end up spending 700 and upwards depending on the pickups and hardware. For 700+ I'd rather start looking into the used market for used higher quality guitars (maybe and old Prestige).
Like I totally get your point, but in the end you'll end up with a cool looking, maybe decent sounding but uncomfortably playing Harley Benton OR a maybe more boring looking, used Ibanez Prestige with a neck that'll make your nipples hard.
Thanks for the quick and detailed response man! Well lets forget the price of the hardware (minus the pickups), as if I wanted to fully customized any guitar I'd buy all that separately. As for pickups, I'm an at home player right now (playing with a shit 15 watt amp) and are hopefully going to dip my feet in recording and mixing. So I doubt having bareknuckles in my guitar will be necessary, even if they will sound 'the best.' I'd much prefer passive pickups, and having a guitar with emgs, I know it'll sound better, but for the time being I'd rather have decent passives (plus I can adjust the height and all that). Also apparently the new harley benton pickups are better (i've seen a video and I personally think so, but who really knows). Plus, I would very much like a coil split for different tonal options, mostly for cleans, thumping, tapping. so quantity over quality in that field, again for the time being. In short, I'd much rather have amateur tones with more variety than an overall great sound. Worst comes to worse, it will become a back up guitar in the future to a new one. Still very open to different ideas and points of view
Yeah, I have the same mindset (used high quality instrument is better) but what about the fanned frets?
procletnic that’s the thing. If you want fanned frets and passive pickups, it’s hard to find. Especially one that’s not super boring black or white
Bro, I can't reach a djenty tone like yours (I like to call it like wet thicc distortion xD) with my Ibanez rg8 and my pod hd pro X, need some help :(
use it with bass! it brings most of fatness and djentyness to the tone
He has a patch of his tone in one of his videos..
I know but my pickups are shit, so I was wondering if there's any way to have a djenty sound with them
get new pickups ;)
That's what I need HAHAHA
does this have locking tuners?
Nope.
Soulhenge on thomanns site it looks like there is but i guess not