LEARN STACK & TILT (PART 1) | Golf Tips | Lesson 132
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2020
- Learn the Stack & Tilt golf swing (part 1), Nick discusses the 3 key parts that control the #1 fundamental of the low point of the golf swing.
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Hey beginners...THIS is the only channel you need in order to learn how to swing a club. Using too many online coaches = confusion.
Thankyou Lynn, appreciate that 🙏
Had a knee replacement (right knee) six weeks ago. Since stack and tilt doesn’t rely on the right leg, I figured I’d give it a shot. Took it slow through therapy. Started half swings in the basement. Watched every You Tube video that Nick has made. Went to the driving range three days ago and practiced full swings. I’m 69 years old with a ten handicap. Went out today for the first time since my replacement and shot 81. Left four puts short by two inches. I was out driving my partner by thirty to forty yards. Every shot was on target, high loft and powerful. Lower back feels great. Thank you so much, Tom. I appreciate what you did for me. Keep up the good work.
Hey Nick
I wanted to thank you and Rob, and give you an update now that I have golfed my first year with Stack and Tilt. I have not had lessons other than lessons from you and Rob from your videos. For the most part I play 9 holes rounds do to time conflicts. I have shot more rounds in the 30's this summer than I have all my0 previous years combined . I have also broke the 80's three times this year when I did get to play 18 holes. Tonight I was playing a good friend that is a very good golfer. I have never come close to beating him but I was actually excited about tonight's round, thinking I had a shot at it. We finished tied at 37, one over par. I never thought I would shoot one over and thought I left a lot on the table but I did tonight. Three years ago I was about to give up the game due to inconsistent play and loss of distance. Now I couldn't be more excited about my game. I also work almost daily on chipping and putting and that has also helped my scoring. I hope to shoot a round under par yet this year. I think i am almost there. My friend could not believe the difference in my came. Thanks again for all your efforts in making the videos. Please let Rob know. Bruce
I watched this video, walked out back tried a couple chip shots in my back yard which both proceeded to fly over my privacy fence and land 2 yards down. Jeez man this is just what i needed to see. I just started golfing and am so lucky the youtube rabbit hole led me to you
Nick knows his stuff. This in my opinion is his best video instruction.. nothing is overdone..
Thanks John 🙏😊
Just discovering s&t is erasing many years of amassed frustration over poor ballstriking. This is how golf should be for many more of us, no fear over the ball, just enjoyment. Thank you!! Martin, Sweden
Thanks Martin, S&T is the future for many of golfers out there i hope 🙏
Does stack and tilt apply for the driver? When I use that made I feel like I come down to steep and chunk my driver
Greetings from Japan…thank you Nick, especially for these drills as they were very effective at the range today!
Nick over the past few weeks I have been practicing stack and tilt using my gap wedge and pitching wedge, the field I have been practicing in isn’t long enough for anything else. I played nine holes today and wow what a difference, it’s the first time I have consistently compressed the ball with my irons ever. Only problem is now because the ball is going 15 - 20 yards longer with every club I missed a lot of greens because I was too long. Guess I need to recalculate my club distances now. Stack and tilt really works, thanks for all these online videos you’ve changed my game for the better.
Thanks Steve, I love receiving messages like this. Keep it up and spread the word #stackandtilt
Great Series! Enjoying the content a lot ...
Wish I discovered this years ago, brilliant tuition nick.
Nick,
Great video for anyone who wants to learn S&T. I had to run out and do the punch shot right away
Thanks
I hope it helped Paul
Really nice and informative for a guy who is learning the S/T swing. Love the detail explanation. Struggle with hit ball then turf even on a great shot? I'll try the drill mentioned.
Great video !!
Hi Never heard of this till recently struggle with irons for sure. Started to use elements of stack and tilt wow just wow fantastic for me scored gross 97 off a 31 handicap
Awesome Peter spread the word 💪🏌️♂️
Nick My wife asked me what I was watching last night and it was a video about how to hit a 3 wood I requested about 5 years ago you did for me, Long story short. She said it was shitty on my part that I never thanked you, she was right. Thank you very much I know it takes a lot of time filming and editing. So ty again.... ps keep up the great work
Haha that's funny, no problem. I remember doing that video
nick, good video for us s&t golfers. thnx.
Thanks for watching Steve
Man, I do this drill every time I hit the range. I even ramp it up to a full swing and try to stop it about where you are here about chest high, I feel like it teaches you how to extend because there is no way you can stop the club without doing that. What amazes me is just how good the contact is and how accurate it is. I have even gone to using this for flighted down shots because I like the trajectory.
excellent tips Nick...
Thanks for watching Alexander
Off to the range to try this drill thank you
good instruction, thanks
Very good Nick
Thanks again Martin
love the last exercise.
Thanks
Hey Nick. I thought your drill at the end of the video is golden. It will encourage and hopefully ingrain forward shaft lean and eliminate the chicken wing by creating a straighter left hand thru and past impact, which is what I am fighting right now. Trying to incorporate S&T into my swing as it seems so logical compared to the conventional fundamentals of golf. Thanks for a super channel.
Thanks Hitesh, its definitely more logical to me. Just trying to spread the word about S&T
I second that. When I was first contemplating adopting S&T I looked at a number of videos and, frankly, found Nick's to be offputting (too technical and too much like work for me). :) However, after getting deeper into the method and trying to implement it on-course I began to analyze things, had more questions, and revisited this video. All I can say is that all the questions I had (e.g. swing plane, hitting fat even though my weight was forward) were answered by Nick clearly and in detail. It all made sense. Understand I still can't hit a golf ball to save my life, but ASK me about how S&T "works", well, I can give you a fairly decent overview. Thanks Nick.
Excellent information. I was wondering why I was bottoming out before the ball when attempting stack and tilt today.
Glad it helped!
Might be good to combine this with an Acu-strike when working on a mat so that you can see exactly where the bottom of the arc is. Nice video. Clear and interesting. Looking forward to part 2.
Yes thats a good idea, thanks for watching
I agree, my Acu-strike literally came yesterday it will be in use for these lessons.
@@TMar1961 I think you'll love it. Great invention. I've nearly work my lines out but it's still fine to use. Just put a club across it and you can see the mark. Brilliant.
Hello Nick, I can’t get enough of the Stack and Tilt Videos. One thing I’ve noticed is when I do this type of drill the grip of the club slides out of position on each hit. Does this happen to you? Do you need to re-grip each hit? It’s like the grip slides to my palm each hit. Especially when I really try to point the clubhead at the ground out in front of me.
this is all great stuff! I’ve migrated around testing all different swings over the years due to numerous injuries that make it hard to just use one swing all the time, causing overuse…so, S&T has been one of my most productive swings to get solid contact more often. My biggest issue is I tend to get a lower ball flight than I do with the standard swing styles…I’m swinging an 8 iron about 70 and I’m seeing a peak height of 36 feet! Is that normal? It’s a nice ball flight otherwise; tight draw.
Just look at the swing at about 7:59 almost NO forward shaft lean. But that is OK for someone with a lot of swing speed and coordination to square the club face.
I try S and T system- , the key and important is to get the P1- P3 correct
Hi Nick new subscriber here and really enjoying your content 👍.
I've adopted this swing last couple of weeks and have seen huge differences in iron strikes and wedges in particular. Driver is not great however , it seems to spin right up and not really get the distance it should . Any video which might help ? Many thanks and keep up the good work 👌👍
Thanks Dale I’ve made a few in my golf tips series but not for a while, I’m planning on doing another one soon
I didn't even know that I swing like this. It worked for me so I just did it thanks for the video it helped clarify a lot of thing in my swing.
Thats great, thanks for watching
...Nick is right...you need a pro to teach you this swing...many years ago I bought the S&T book...to be frank, it was poorly explained in a technical level and therefore confusing..and the included CD’s were a tedious 4 hours...but everything was new in those days, and the writers were doing the best they could...I tried playing with the basic knowledge...and it worked relatively well...got compression for first time, albeit no consistency...then gave it up ( no videos such as this one at the time for clarity )...however, on the range I still try a few S&T shots...and when I do hit it by chance ‘correctly’ ( which I don’t know ) I smoke the ball absolutely straight ...but invariably I revert to my standard swing after the first crapper...but I have to thank Nick in his explanation here as he showed me two completely new points about the swing I never knew...look forward to watching the follow up videos...thanks Nick for getting me recharged ( re-educated ) for this swing...
Thanks Rob, totally agree you need an instructor to help you. Even myself I still get help from Rob and the guys with my swing. I am glad you are persevering it's too easy to give up after a bad shot, and overall golf is hard but if you have a system it can become easier over time. The book and DVD's started me on my journey and still use for reference but meeting Andy and Mike in person is another thing altogether.
Stumbled across your channel after being introduced to S&T. I’ve read the book and watched a few of your videos and it makes complete sense. The hardest aspect for me as a newcomer to S&T is keeping a still head position as your body is tilting. Any tips would be much appreciated.
Hi William, the hip slide is key to maintain head position and tilt in the swing
@@NickTaylorGolf Hi Nick. Thanks for the reply. Would you say the hip slide in S&T is a deliberate move or comes naturally as part of belt up, bum tucked at the end of the downswing? I feel I am doing it naturally if I focus on this element of the downswing. Cheers.
Video said the low point is below the left shoulder does the left shoulder control the low point and does the body weight location of the hands and swing direction effective control the location of the left shoulder should you just try and keep left shoulder ahead of the ball kindly advise thanks for your help Jack
Clear and excellent instruction Nick, Thx, and greetz from Germany
Thanks Rick
Nice video. Thanks. What golf monitor is that you are using?
Thanks for your video. I’m new to S and T and Confused about one issue. It sounds like the weight should totally stay on the left during the backswing but then there’s an instruction to shift weight forward onto the left side during the downswing. Can you give an estimate of how much body weight never moves off the left side? I realize it’s not an exact science but it could help clear up some confusion. Thanks again
Hi Barbara, I think this video will help with your question: ruclips.net/video/oKwq_e8v7Rk/видео.html
Nick ,can you use your position 6 drill as a full swing ? THANK YOU < Ron
Hi Ron I replied to your message on the other video, no reason why you can't but I recommend as a drill
Have you had any keep weight forward but them unexpectedly shift back just before impact?
NIck, great presentation of ST. In your backswing your right wrist flexes back. When do you release that, if in fact you do release that angle??
After P6 (shaft parallel in downswing)
I’ve found that if I concentrate on an area ahead of the ball I hit the ball much cleaner.
Yes everyone should practice this
👍🏼
Thanks for the info. Pretty hard to hold release to P6, keep feeling
I won't get the clubface back to square. Any drill to overcome this fear.
You need to make sure the clubface is more closed in the downswing
Hey nick thanks for the tip earlier about falling towards the target it helped. I definitely think I don’t compress the ball because of releasing the club before I get to the ball. How would I eventually build this drill to a full swing? Because the follow through feels so unnatural
Thanks again.
Oh and should the same feeling be applied to the driver too?
Happy to help Jake, I think you need to keep working on the drill as not an easy thing to change with the full swing. In this video you can see the difference between the drill with the shorter finish and the full swing I analysed. In the full swing I continued to turn, rehinge the club, and flex the left arm
The drill is mainly for the irons but try and get the same feeling with the driver, note the shoulder tilt to the right will be more with the driver at impact
Nick Taylor Golf got it I’ll just try to get that feeling of handle leading in front of the ball at impact with no right hand taking over causing a “flip” with less than full swings for the time being! I’ll try to do the same with driver. I really appreciate you taking time to reply to the comments. All class 👍🏻
Nice video Nick. I have been working on square to square swing I see many parts are very similar. Did sq2sq come from this or are they the same idea?
The Stack and Tilt system evolved from the golfing machine. Im not sure about sq2sq
II’m taking tips from both methods and finding the center of the face. Thanks again. 👍
Nick, can you recommend a ST instructor in Los Angeles, CA
Hi one question, is this apply to all clubs, including driver? Thank you
Hi I have done a separate video for driver which I posted yesterday as there are a few differences
Love the way you explain the swing. But....(you knew there was going to be a but, didn't you?) you say during the analysis to try to keep the hands and grip slightly forward at impact. More or less at the same angle as address. How do you try to do this? Do you actually consciously try to hold the angle in the wrist? Tilt forward? Or is that shaft lean the result of doing something else (e.g. continuing to rotate)? Thanks for the free videos. You don't HAVE to do it, I for one appreciate them.
Hi. Tried s&t yesterday, some balls shanked to the right. I guess it's very important that the hip clears before arms to prevent this to happen. Otherwise the arms Will deliver first, with a clubhead that's Still open. Am I right?
It really depend Gustav, clubface is a big factor imo
Nick, can you talk about how stack and tilt affects carry distance for driver and long irons? That's one of the notable concerns with the stack and tilt swing method. Long irons are hit much too low to stop the ball on the green and the driver launch angle is much too low to maximize carry distance.
Thats a myth Clint, check out my course vlogs and this video which shows club data with different clubs: ruclips.net/video/XmViMw4ikkY/видео.html
I'm using a 9.5 degree driver that launches almost 15º with an angle of attack 0.3º up
@@NickTaylorGolf thank you so much for the response.
Clint, There is some truth to your concern on distance and carry with stack and tilt. The mechanics of stack and tilt keeps the body from being out of sync with the swing keeping it stable at impact. However, the traditional swing has a forward inertia transferring to the ball , which is why you will see a golfer with proper inertia walk forward after the follow through because his momentum carries him forward. The entire right side of the body is emptied of the power coil forward. ( Gary Player, Lee Trevino). Stack and Tilt keeps the body stable by hitting on the left side but the momentum remains collected on that side and just defuses the energy from the feet to the shoulders. The Pros can afford to shave a little distance for consistency but the Physics of Golf has not changed from Bobby Jones to Tiger Woods to the future. There will be variations of swing mechanics but maximizing the transfer of inertia to the ball remains the same. And those that have been able to sustain it have the most Majors in their bag.
What are the lines on the mat for? When you swing down, as the butt end is close to the ball and shaft is parallel to the ground, is the club also parallel to the target line or is the club head still behind the hands coming from the inside?
Club head ideally in line or fraction inside the hands at P6
@@NickTaylorGolf Thanks!
@@NickTaylorGolf I tried this swing this past few weeks. I'm shocked at how well it allows me to hit the ball when I do it correctly. I can actually hit a driver straight. Still needs refining but just following the basic ideas has made a big change. The days of turning onto that right leg a killing my back are over.
Thanks that's great to hear, and the reason I do my channel
I'd like to take some on-line lessons...sending you videos of my S and T swing and get your feedback. How?
Hi nick do you move laterally lead side with the down swing ????
Yes lower body (hip slide)
So at the top of the backswing you’re pushing off your left foot?
I would say sliding and turning my hips to the left in the downswing
I tried this style and happy with consistent ball flights. But my ball goes lower and I lose some distance. Any advice?
Contact is always the first priority I guess it depends how low and how short in comparison?
Nick Taylor Golf
Thank you for replying.
Id say it’s 20% lower and shorter.
I think I need to get used to the technique.
Hi Nick is it common to develop the shanks with wedges whilst working on s&t . ? cheers 👍
It shouldn't so you must have changed something to cause that Dale
@@NickTaylorGolf Ok thanks Nick . Any thing I should be checking for ? just missed my net in the garden and shanked one through the fence 😯😂
It's hard to say Dale, is there an S&T instructor nearby?
@@NickTaylorGolf Not sure pal , Anyone nw England you know of ?
Yes Darren Hopwood, he's one of the best
Exactly what I wanted to know! What's your take on ball position for different clubs?
Thanks, this is a little old but good for ball position ruclips.net/video/XmViMw4ikkY/видео.html
Nick is the plane mate compatible with s&t?
Yes of course
This is a lot harder than it looks.
Is the stack and tilt good for seniors
Yes the best 🏌
So what is the weight distribution on the stance.??? 50/50, 60/40????
At setup 55/45 left
Hi Nick a friend told me about the stack and tilt method. I have come across your 3 videos explaining them. If I am correct 80% of the weight is on your left foot at setup this appears to make the angle of the shaft lean further to the left, is this correct?
Thanks for watching Andy, I would say that is a bit too much, check out my 10 words video part 1 it should help: ruclips.net/video/oKwq_e8v7Rk/видео.html
I’m confused. Almost all teachers and almost all pro's advocate shallowing the club on the downswing which causes the club head to drop below the plane.
You are saying the downswing mimics the back swing.
What is correct?
Most pros advocate a steep backswing which means you have to shallow,. Technically the backswing hand path should be more inside than the downswing as a result of the body turn being more degrees turned compared to the same checkpoint in the downswing
Nick Taylor Golf
Say what???
I’m more confused now with your answer. It makes no sense to me
Its to explain in writing so this video may help: ruclips.net/video/aaLIJ4iICqU/видео.html
The shoulder turn at P3 is more than P5 and as a result the left arm is more inwards at P3
I nick where is the nearest instructor in the West Midlands dave
Hi Dave look up Neal Hyde he's probably your closest
Is strong or weak grip suited for this swing?
There is no specific grip, basically any grip can fit into the system
i think teaching pros overstate the forward position of their hands. True the club does not pass your hands, but they are not way out in front like the position you were showing prior to an actual swing,... they are at most just ahead of the ball or even with it.
how would I get in touch with you for online lessons
via my website Mo nicktaylorpga.com
please can i get the link to your website
www.nicktaylorpga.com
Thank you..
Would you contact me about your rates for online coaching?
Hi David I have details about online lessons on my website www.nicktaylorpga.com
Nick, S&T has worked wonders for my game but i occasionally sky the driver. Any thoughts?
Did u message me the other day Issac? How high is the tee? Are you hitting the ground?
@@NickTaylorGolf yeah, i did comment the other day but no worries. About half of the ball is above the top of the driver head when teed up, and on the times when i do sky it i feel like ive hit excessively down on it (i played 18 yesterday and focused on what happened when i skied it). I wonder if that is because my left leg didnt straighten enough when coming into impact. Sometimes, the hip slide will automatically cause my left leg to straighten well, but other times it doesnt.
Do you hit the ground, if not tee it lower
@@NickTaylorGolf i dont remember hitting the ground at all, so i will go ahead and try a lower tee position next time, thank you for the input.
That would be where I would start, could be a number of things
I am also interested in on line coaching. can you send me your rates please?
Hi Dominic I have details about online lessons on my website www.nicktaylorpga.com
How to have you teach me online?
Hi via Skillest app it’s possible
Instead of saying “what most do” just say this is what you’re suppose to do. And if u don’t this is what u can expect.
Very late with your right heel through impact
Late for what?
Ewan McGregor
Up to 2:00 isn’t that the point? If I can consistently know where I am going to hit the ground then I don’t need any lessons 😂🤷♂️
Yep if you can do that and hit the ball a long way and control the curve you don’t
Ohhh my bad. So this is for people who hit awesome crisp contact on every shot (because they know where they are hitting the ground everytime) BUT...can’t draw or fade. Gotcha
Wow, stack and tilt was debunked years ago!! It'll kill yardage on your drives with a negative angle of attack which adds spin.
Debunked by who?
@@NickTaylorGolf Hear it all the time. Paul McGinley often refers to it on sky sports, saying that it came and went on the PGA tour. It's good for the wedges but kills your long game as you get way too steep with lower lofted clubs. Look at the world top ten, no one using stack and tilt.
So because one former player on sky sports says it, it means it doesn't work? My angle of attack with a driver is around zero and the average tour player is 1.5º down 🤔
@@NickTaylorGolf Can you name me one top 50 player using stack and tilt? Look at all the best players they have a 60/40 weight split for their long clubs and then are more neutral ....say 50/50 on the short clubs, Rory being the perfect example. It leads to better consistency. If you stack and tilt on your irons, then you need to completely reverse this to optimise driver launch and it can only lead to inconsistencies. I believe Aaron Baddely and Justin Leonard tried stack and tilt and their games completely went off the rails. It's just bad teaching for average players!
If you look at Aaron's stats he played his best while working with the S&T guys and then he dropped off. Stack & Tilt had multiple tour wins while M & A were actively coaching on tour, but they are busy doing other stuff now. S & T only got a bad name from other instructors that felt threatened or didn't know enough about the system. No tour player sways in the backswing, and they all finish with their weight on the left, they also all tilt left in the backswing and right in downswing, they all change their knee flex in the backswing and turn the hips on a tilted angle - all moves in the S&T system
your right arm is straight at impact, ummm chest is not open at impact, keeping the head down,is really bad for the back as well as causing a into out path with a flip action, your standing up before impact...... side view shows your right hip moving towards the ball..........its what i see Nick, nothing personal..........
That's why I coach and don't play for a living
Really hard to concentrate on the video when the editing is so edgy - you need to put some pauses in between your speech when editing so it's not so staccato! Sorry gave up a few mins in.
Fair point Simon
Talks too much…,, get into it..