VEGAN vs ANGRY MONK (HE WON'T GIVE UP CHEESE)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2019
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I consume milk from an ahimsa farm where they milk the almonds humanely.
you barbarian.
Grass fed halal almonds?
Poor pregnant almonds
You realise they drown the almonds to make the milk? Mate you're nuts
😂😂🤣👍
I'm really tired of people using thier God to justify cruelty. 😡
same i'm really tired of it as well
OfficialEDirty you don’t need belive in God for eating meat
@@kurdebele yeah theres other excuses for that but God is just one.
Our God so fuck off
Donnie Scruggs mmh, Im sure your God does not condone using such profanity. Wether you believe in a God or not it is a better world where we respect each other. Why not leave the sentence ‘fuck off’ out and replace it with a more thought out articulate answer as this would prove to others a better level of respect and education. If you are lacking in words you can learn and to better your vocabulary. Just think more. I await a better response to your last. Go on try it.
We’re doing the animals a favor by torturing and killing them...logic
It's hard to talk with religious people, because they are dogmatic. They have no real arguments against the abuse of dairy cows. They try to justify it with "God" or "life means suffer tho"
if you come to Croatia, and see the farms here, you will not see anny tourture annywhere. So a cow make allot of milk, if you don't milk it she will have swolen titties XD so you actually need to milk it, for her relief, and what do you propose to throe the milk away?
@@CroElectroStile any form of animal "explotation" or use of them for any type of consumption would be wrong, pretty much the animal becomes useless if we won't use it as resources, because we only bread these creatures to serve us. The whole animal "exploitation" thing is just Marxist jargon, the same way feminists claim that women are opprecessed by society/men or workers are oppressed/exploited by capitalism/bosses, it's just ideology witch means perception is reality.
@@DavidSiciliano2100 Yeah we are using planet earth for our purposes, i really don't get what is wrong with that? having clothes, food, fertilizer, companisonship in case of dogs, breeding is a very natural process
@@DavidSiciliano2100 Most Vegans are hypocrits, they say we don't need to eat animals products , then they go and buy fake meats, fake cheese, fake milk, if you area natrual plant eater munch on spinach and kale all day, why eat persevative legume sludge bricks when your food can be simple as it is, Eggs. ingridients = EGG, Milk = COWS RAW MILK, Yogurt = Milk, Starter, Cheese= Milk, Salt, . If you think stuff like Roqerfort, parmegano, Prosciutto, milk, sour cream, rare steaks, fish, liver is bad for you, while
beyond meat : Ingredients. Water, Pea Protein Isolate, Refined Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Contains 2% or less of: Rice Protein, Faba Bean Protein, Natural Flavor, Potato Starch, Salt, Fruit Juice (For Color), Vegetable Juice (For Color), Apple Fiber, Methylcellulose, Citrus Extract (To Protect Quality), Calcium Alginate Casing.
and Almond milks
Ingredients. Water, Pea Protein Isolate, Refined Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Contains 2% or less of: Rice Protein, Faba Bean Protein, Natural Flavor, Potato Starch, Salt, Fruit Juice (For Color), Vegetable Juice (For Color), Apple Fiber, Methylcellulose, Synthetic Vitamin D, Citrus Extract (To Protect Quality), Calcium Alginate Casing.
That is Healthy for us right? great shelf life and really conviniet for Supermarkets to sell you poison that can stay on a shelf for more money then regular raw milk, maybe you can't uy raw dairy in your country, but thank God here it's still avialable in farmers market.
“Is it unethical if I use a human female for her milk?”
“I mean... yeah... uhhh ok”
Got him there 😂😂😂😂
@French blue8 Jack is in love with a cow and planning to marry her. Cows = women
Was such a hard to watch response. Like you see it click in real time in his head.
it’s impractical but not unethical
If you have enough human women, then yes I guess.
@@prajalpi you are out of your fucking mind aren't you...you seriously need some of Narayana ..may he guide you.
Jack: Are you aware of the cruelty in the dairy industry?
Dude: Absolutely!
Me: 🤯
So am I and i still consume meat and dairy
@@SpeakDahTruth Oooooh! So you are aware that you are directly participating in the destruction of our planet Earth?! Sounds like an informed decision! Jk.
So you have no issues with causing global warming! With causing 91% of Amazon destruction, deforestation, species extinction, water scarcity, ocean deadzones, 100% unnecessary violence. Hmm interesting.
@@SpeakDahTruth Negan, big industries are lying to you. They only care about your money, not about anything else. Time to educate ourselves. Watch a documentary called Dominion and another one called Cowspiracy. You're welcome.
Your Fluffy Vegan Cinnamon Roll yeah I have no problem contributing to all those things. The world needs a hard reset anyway
Your Fluffy Vegan Cinnamon Roll I don’t care if these industries are lying to me and if they only care about getting my money. I only care about getting easy access to meat, dairy and eggs and not having to eat shitty vegan food my whole life, so to me it’s a win win. I’ve already seen Dominion, cowspiracy and what the health and here i am still consuming animals products. Nothing will ever turn me vegan
“We need milk for our brains” 🤔 please tell the academy of nutrition and dietetics, British dietetics association, and world health organization because they didn’t get the memo.
It's nice on Coco Pops though, right?
getting vitamin d and b12 from milk is better than processed factory tablets
Moth 😂🤣 wait till you find out who the largest consumers of B12 supplements are 🐄🤣
@@veganscholar8348 that's interesting. Do cows and pigs consume B12 more than human on average or in total?
Never mind the fact that 75% of humans are lactose intolerant. Yeah we must really need milk 😅
Nothing exposes the moral corruption of people like asking them questions about veganism. Monks included.
Also: the relationship between humans and cows is anything but natural, Monk Man.
Ask away!
@@traymitt How's your T level?
@@lloydchristmas4547 in normal range, why
@@traymitt Did Krishna create cows?
@@TXRhody no idea, why
5:55 "we believe dairy is an important part of the human diet". So you rely on the breastmilk of another species, while it is inherently a cocktail of hormones destined for a baby calf?
Precisely you vegan fuck. Precisely
French blue8 wha wha wha cry me a river. Your little jokes won’t stop me eating meat, dairy and eggs
The cow is not a normal animal. Their excrement is antiseptic, which has baffled science forever. Cow milk is closer to human milk than any other creature too including apes. They have proved that in the science lab. These things dnt make sense unless the cow milk was designed for human by God. Vegans are generally atheists. Lacto-vegetarians are generally theists. Do you realise why? Cow milk is not a normal substance. You should research deeply into Vedic history and educate yourself.
@@thijssmudde that's a childish answer. This is why vegans have lower IQ than lacto-vegetariabs. Google it.
@Random RUclips Idiot any evidence for your claims?
There are tons of resources that state that a fully plant-based diet is adequate for all stages of life. "Well-planned vegetarian and vegan diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Furthermore you can reverse and treat very common Western diseases such as diabetes type 2, heart disease and many common types of cancer with a fully plant based diet.
Reversing and treating diabetes type 2 and cardiovascular disease www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5466941/
Some other resources:
www.pcrm.org/
nutritionfacts.org
Mic the Vegan (RUclips)
How do you not go into a rage?! Your patience is truly commended.
He made no good arguments as to why it’s an ethical obligation
I've been a member of the Hare Krishna community for 4 years now - and vegan for 10! I can very happily say that in the 4 years I've been going to my local temple there's been a big move from veggie to vegan. For example: all of the public events are vegan, we have vegan all you can eat nights, free vegan food for students/homeless, yoga festivals with vegan meals - the other festivals/events which are more religious ones and are attended by mostly Indian families are usually not vegan because milk and dairy are very much a part of Indian culture and it's written in the scriptures about the relationship to cows (ahimsa milk etc). Many of the western Hare Krishna monks and community members have made the switch to vegan over the past few years. Modern times are very different to ancient India - if non violence is your motto then VEGAN is the only way! Hoping more of the community joins us in the coming years :)
Slowly happening ^___^
fantastic bro, that sounds like an excellent community.
That's great!
I was scrolling the comments section and found your comment among all of these negative and critical ones. My husband and I are both vegan and are members of the Vaishnava community. It's refreshing to hear from someone who understands both aspects of what was expressed in this video. The devotees were very respectful and took time to answer the vegan interviewer's questions,. but their one possible mistake is not realizing they are speaking to an atheistic person. The interviewer was also respectful and kind. There's no need for criticism on either side. .
Yes I was born into a Hare Krishna family so born as a lacto vegetarian, and my mum dad and siblings were the same. Most of us are vegan now. I've been vegan for 5yrs. Coz I Honestly didn't realise baby calves died 4 milk. I grew up on a Hare Krishna dairy farm and they never sold or killed any cows, bulls or calves. The animals were treated amazingly, and the farm was self sufficient.. The bulls would plough the veggie fields, and if any cow would die naturally they'd use the skin to make things. It was pretty cool that I grew up to see that. And I never questioned milk as a cruel product as all the cows were friendly, happy and acted like pets to all the residents. But when I learnt about commercial farming.. I couldn't beleive the dairy industry rough housed the cows, shoved them along and beat them and killed the babies. I was like dude WTF. So I became vegan. Took me a while as I was conditioned and addicted to cheese. But yeah I realised all dairy u buy is cruelty and even in India the land of sacred cows they've lost the traditions of worshipping the cows as goddesses and they just toss the calves on the street coz they're too pussy to kill them. The ancient scenarios described in the scriptures about true cow worship, isn't being practiced. Not even by most Hindus so it's better just to eliminate dairy and avoid the cruelty.
"I appreciate the ideology but it's so hypothetical"..... Wait.. didn't you just say that torturing a cow for milk is good for the cow because the cow's "soul" gets more benefit in the next "destination".
Erm... Ok right I see, damn... well maybe we need to start doing the same to our fellow human mothers so that they benefit too in the "spiritual world!"
no iam krishna my self and iam vegan there is a lot of vegan krishnas krishna says “If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit, or water, I will accept it. ruclips.net/video/2VGN7S88qg8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/OKH45tI4LgA/видео.html
Yess Ooooh lordy it's a Hancock video
10:05 "like I say, my personal opinion is worth nothing because I can't think for myself so I let a book do it for me"
That's the big problem with religion. Religious people often don't think, they follow.
@@24bytesandpieces because they lack critical thinking skills modernisation has helped develope in most people, stuck in the past
like I say, my personal opinion is worth nothing because we speak from shastra means we speak from the Scriptural reference ffrom the ancerstors books..
You cant verify the truth from his Words what he wants to say.. The truth is verified through different pramanas means if the words of the book the words of the living master and the words of the devotee are same than we can say iots truth thats how hindus measure truth..
Im not hare krishna follower like these people but also Hindu shavaite.
@@TomVFormOfficial yea it's pathetic
When a book says there’s a sun or the earth is round are you letting a book think for yourself?
_OMG!! The no of excuses these vegetarian Monks are making is far more than the meat eaters make.....seems like it would never end_
"It's a benefit for the cows..." I've honestly never heard such rubbish.
they didnt seem angry at all, they just seemed to try answer your question as best they can.
I thought the same, even though they couldn't answer very well. Where was the anger?
@@Nilafila76 just clickbait, but it got me lol
I absolutely love that you leave room for humor in your conversations. You've always got a great attitude!!! 👍
Great conversations. I enjoyed this video 👍🏻
You're getting smoother hancock, you really had their gears working to try and justify their positions, but I still appreciate that they are considering animals more than most.
Dairy Addicts preaching Enlightenment.
I was in charge of a venue where these hare krishna guys wanted to do this kind of a thing. Since we were able to make the venue available, they were very thankful, and one of the them got me indian sweets made out of "their" cows' milk. When I told him I was vegan, and wouldn't consume that, he got offended. He tried to explain that they don't treat their cows like the dairy industry does, and that they let the cows live out their natural lives, but wouldn't see my point of the cows not belonging to us to use for their body secretions. He left very angry for someone who preaches peace and non violence.
I was waiting to hear what you would come up with regarding this being as I used to be a Hare Krishna myself. I guess the arguments they give were what I would expect, though I was surprised to hear them justifying using milk sourced from violent modern industry. Krishna the god was of a time when the cows were loved and treated as part of the family, a different time totally, although still there are some small goshalas, where cows live and are both milked and worshipped simultaneously, according to the ways of old in India and elsewhere. But as for the industries of now, Krishna would never accept contributing in any way to the killing of his beloved cows, so the Hare Krishna's need to be transparent about this and udate their perspectives.
Mr Hancock you did your best, They have their blinders very nice and tight.
Any bollocks to justify addictions. Can't believe the selfishness and nonsensical reasons of those monks.
He can't see the connection! Krishna ji loves cows, cows are not treated well in the dairy industry, they are taking milk from the dairy industry and offering to Krishna ji/his devotees (in Govinda restaurants)!
Krishna ji will certainly be sad! :(
I think deep down, they all agree with Hancock, but they aren't usually confronted with this specific topic.
It's difficult to watch their justifications. I was raised with the Gita and Ramayan. There is no way the dairy industry is compatible with ahimsa/non violence. We are taught that the highest ideal of Shri Krishna's life is love and compassion towards other humans, animals and nature. When unrighteousness reigns, like the dairy and meat industry, it's up to us to stand up to such an evil and not partake in it. Im not a monk, just a girl who is vegan because I was taught about Shri Krishna's love. I'm heartbroken by these apparent monks. Thank you for your activism. A vegan atheist is far more godly than a non vegan monk.
@Conan One needs to understand how highly esteemed the monks are, to us. When leading hundreds of people, it's about the collective spiritual journey. That's why it's even more important for them to adopt veganism to fit their narrative of ahimsa and non violence. Respectfully, do the research into veganism and the environment before commenting. I'm just a believer in non violence as taught by my religion. Veganism is the path of non violence
@Conan I feel as if you will grasp at straws, at this point. As stated above, I am the same religion as the monks. Ok then, buh bye!
4:42 You just blew this guys mind with logic
Dude, seriously. I start laughing as soon as I hit play on your vids because you have it sooo together, and everyone else looks ridiculous in comparison. Oh my god. People are mixed up. Not trying to look down on anyway. It’s just comical how rational you are and how hypocritical other people are who try to be peaceful, fair, spiritual, holy, etc. Great stuff! Much better than anything on TV. We need a Vegan TV Chanel for those who still watch it. Does TV still exist?
"This shirt you bought, very likely was made by someone who eats meat, you don't know" ... not hurting animals really is hard huh 😅
We are speaking about direct harm. We all have to live so there is always going to be some level of harm to animals. But paying someone to slit an animals throat for food is not necessary
@@Ba1ster i disagree
Caro ThePeanut best logic ever! Right? 🤣
It isn't that hard. You can start by no eating them, and not sucking their milk, and not eating their period
@@davidzapata8930 no thankyou, i will continue.
Great job again, thank you
Some monks are fake. Monks are supposed to live simple lives. In India, the monks who live in mountains and go for exile thrive on a completely vegan (fruit) diet.
Bey Hive no they don’t lmao
@@girlwhoseeks yes that's true , who lives in himalaya are mostly vegan yogi/yogini
@@girlwhoseeks sorry my english is not good
14.45 As an Indian Hindu I can totally understand the thought process of this Monks , as in India cows are treated as holy beings/ equal to mother as we consume it's products since ages & , it's said Lord Krishna also consumed dairy (no cruelty of whatsoever form is n was done , treated as family members,etc. ) ..... ( today also my n my friends relatives in countryside are farmers n they own cows n buffalows n they treat them just as their family member n no less than that , they r taken care of their whole life till they die naturally , as it is the case in most of India although not 100% , some poor farmer do tend to sell them ) ..... HENCE. , dairy is not considered as cruel n it's linked to spirituality ,
BUT IMO especially in the west , we all know how horrible is the dairy industry , Lord Krishna would also won't like dairy of such horror of recent times . I think Veganism is the best option of this time. ( Btw I personally Really respect , admire u all vegan activist ,great work u r doing , also the Monks too admired ur cause , ur work , subscribe everyone I find ) .
Much appreciation for you doing & sharing this. Thank you!
"The Lord takes pleasure in offering dairy" LMFAO
I love how quickly that guy (at the end) changed his tune, once he realised you're a reasonable person.
There are so many religions/spiritual sectors like this and think it’s ok to consume dairy. My background was like this but I woke up why can’t they? Cause they love the taste, nothing to do with god! God has never spoken and said this.
Great video!!
Are u a troll...?
Why u speaking about back then??? We are in 2019 u fool.
I have NEVER EATEN FLESH! Either had any supplements. Back then B12 in soil was good. Now the soils are so depleted that I would advise to get ure levels checked.
We don’t need to support animal cruelty, in this modern would u can get everything u need on a plant based diet!
Bally Birdi then why do you drink almond milk? Soy milk? Coconut milk? Because you like the taste of “milk” right?
Random RUclips Idiot exactly my point, people are so retarded here
Amazing work!
Oh my god i dont know how you have the patience? I would go completely bonkers listening to people present themselves as spiritual and moral teachers while justifying just doing what they feel like doing even when a polite inteligent person presents a rational moral argument that would actually support and strenghen their movement. Im so grateful that you have the patience.
Thanks for your effort man.
great job, hancock
These are the types called out in A Prayer For Compassion. Excellent activism as always, dude 👍
19:40 the silence says it all. Good work!
As an ex-hare krishna, this is a difficult conversation I have with my Hare Krishna friends and family often. Unfortunately they almost always immediately end the conversation without engaging at all.
I can see a future where Jack is doing this full time. Keep up the good work.
Good on you for taking on this mission impossible :D At least it's a very good example of how impossible it seems to be to discuss morals with religious people :)
That was hard work!!
The Hare Krishna temple donated by George Harrison. It's near me in aldenham. Veggie so might have vegan stuff as well. Need to go there.
Nice
Completely unrelated to the video, but theres an iskcon temple on my street and an old guy in the robe was dancing down the street ringing a bell like “hare, hare, hare” and i got the feeling he’d say something to me as i passed him just from his demeanor
I was right, he goes “YOU SIR! CAN YOU SAY ‘HARE KRISHNA?’” And i just said “Yes” and kept walking, left the poor guy waiting lmao
I mean i answered his question....
mr walkway haha. Well played.
When will adults grow out of their imaginary friends and take responsibility for their cruel actions?
Today I discovered this Channel and My Purpose for the Week is Fulfilled
"We just do our best! Unless there's cheese involved. Then fuck the cows cos mmm cheese" that's like totally super spiritual 🙏
just like in modern sociey where dogs are respected and loved in ancient india cows were treated like that,and some people in tribal rajasthan breatfeeds animals too whose mother dies in jungle
Humane Hancock respect!
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but can you tell me where I can find those cards you hand out to people?
The dairy industry is the worst. Sadly it's the most addictive.
These monks seem more intelligent than I thought they impressed me more than humane hancock
Malcolm, sarcasm? ☝️
Where’s the father cow? Serious question: if cows were allowed to reproduce naturally and live together, would make cows stay with the females and show any interest in their own calves?
You have TOO MUCH patience, I could never.
That's why he is Humane Handcock and you are Despicable Vicky.
Thank you for the reminder! “Religion is belief in someone else’s experience.
Spirituality is having your own experience.”
- Deepak Chopra
Love your videos, and I’m half joking when I say this, but could you try to sporadically upload ones where the interviewees actually get it? Would really like to see people that come across as receptive, once in a while. I start to lose my mind when I hear their “reasoning.” The level of disconnection is insanity-inducing.
It really frustrates me when religion is used as a justification for harming others...
This was basically, "I see how my actions conflict with my beliefs, but my religion says it's okay so it's okay". Ugh! 😔
Excellent Activism!
Good grief that was painful 😣
I think I'm in love with you (and your outreach skills ofc)
Thank you for all you do for the animals, I've so far converted three family members and two friends but I want to follow your example. Going to my first cube of truth this Sunday.
Yeah this is homo. 🌈
You took these words out of my mouth haha! There’s nothing I enjoy more than humour and logic in a person!
youre so amazing
krishana in his childhood untied the calves so that they can drink milk of the cow and he said the calves has tge first write on the milk
Its really hard talking about going vegan with Hindhu vegetarian people
Rekash Sinanin not really. I’m a Hindu who converted to veganism from vegetarianism. The problem is with non vegans from all communities.
@@beyhive8085 lol, all mad people think its everyone else who are mad.
@@traymitt fake laugh from fake T level.
I am a vegan Hindu.
Krishna as a gopi (cowherd) is found in the Bhagavatam (Vishnu-purana). The Krishna of the Bhagavadgita (Mahabharata) is totally different. So there must be two different Krishnas. The Krishna of the Mahabharata has nothing to do with dairy.
@@beyhive8085south african hindhus love dairy.. most priests cannot do a prayer without cows milk
You gave them something to think about. :)
Where can I find that “vegan diet suitable for all stages of life” ADA? When I google it keep saying “vegetarian diets suitable for all stages of life.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704
Leilani Puerto thank you sir I see it now where it says vegan
listen DR CALDWELL ESSELSTYN, KIM WILLIAMS, PAMELA POPPERS, GARTH DAVIS AND NEIL BARNARD in RUclips and their website
alternate title: "dairy fair monk gets triggered by vegan activist showing he's a better person"
I love this!!
They aren't monks.
4:50 the moment he realized the paucity of his argument.
9:54 how he looks down on you even though he's smaller. The arrogance. Once he realized that his moral ground was flawed he activated his cognitive dissonance and became arrogant with his body language as a self-defence mechanism
i will agree but trust me this has nothing to do with shastras or lord krishna. i was brought up to believe in a more compassionate form of dharma. not what they are showcasing. this just appalls me...
they say they treat cows the way they would treat their mothers but they would never treat their mothers in this way?
These people are very kind
‘Nother banger! Just noticed your tattoo! What is it?
What's the best way to keep milk fresh?
Leave it in the cow
When dealing with these people with such beliefs. I think telling them the bad implications to our health of consuming milk, is highly needed to pursuade them
Vegetarianism is good when done on an individual or local level.
Like in Indian villages where farmers have a cow or two just for some milk and they are pretty much free to go around anywhere. The industrial dairy farming seen across the world now, makes vegetarian lifestyle tough because of the contradiction.
Leave the cows alone idiots. Not your mum not your milk. Don't complicate things. Very simple to understand.
Bhagavad gita actually hints to vegan food prasadam offering . BG chapter 9 verse 26 : " If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit or water, I will accept it." Here sri bhagavab or in the hare krishna translation sri krsna does not mention dairy as an offering.
Lmao these dudes touting the Gita and not realizing that it tells you not to eat animals or exploit them.
making hare krsna look real good boys.
They dont eat animals. They offer the milk to KRSNA so the cows who are destined to die by their karma get blessed.
@@bmarley5723 But they do consume milk
@@LordOfDhara look...
They who eat the flesh of animals are themselves later eaten by the animals they eat. The destroyer is always slain. After him the eater meets with the same fate. (Mahabharata, Anu 116.32-35)
Humans who eat animals become animals and get eaten. Its simple karma and rebirth. HOWEVER in the Bhagavad Gita, KRSNA says offer Him Milk and He will take away the sin from it and bless both the drinker and the cow it came from. Get it now?
@@bmarley5723
"They who eat the flesh of animals are themselves later eaten by the animals they eat. The destroyer is always slain. After him the eater meets with the same fate."
Cows that are killed at as early as five years old because their bodies are so depleted from constantly being pregnant and giving birth aren't destroyed?
wow
I have less of a problem with their intentions for farming. The bigger problem is the fact that they lazily use dairy industry products that are completely cruel while claiming to be in krishna consciousness.
You really think you can be in krishna conciousness while consuming dairy industry products? lmao.
also Krishna literally likes most fruit and produce as well... why not just offer products that don't require massive amounts of cruelty?
@Random RUclips Idiot
"The Gita does not say that. The hindus and krishnas view cows as sacred beings, for their life sustaining milk"
I suppose you're right. I heavily got the don't exploit animals vibe either but just my interpretation I guess. Either way Krishna wouldn't support the dairy industry lmao. Farms like they are talking about I would have less of a problem with but if you're saying that krishna supports factory farmed dairy that is laughable.
"Veganism is basically a suicide diet unless you consume highly unnatural artificial supplements which DID NOT EXIST IN ANCIENT INDIA"
Unfiltered rivers with bacteria producing b12 didn't exist in india? huh, weird.
" Even with the supplements your health will deteriorate over time. "
I doubt you'll bother, but do you have any evidence?
"Veganism won't last more than a generation."
lmao bet
"Many first generation vegans are already infertile as a direct consequence of the malnutrition (vegan women losing their period - men losing their sex drive)"
evidence of this?
They have such a beautiful core belief. My uncle is Buddhist. It really is a beautiful way to live. It's just sad that they don't see the hypocrisy in consuming Dairy. People love to hear good news about their bad habits.
In the past our relationship with cows and other milk animals was based more on symbiosis, they were not locked in cages, and were having decent existence.
I respect veganism, I have stopped eating meat, but in nature existence is everything, all good and bad emotions exist just to keep you alive. A cow produce much more milk than the calf need, you can impregnate a cow with only female spermatozoids so that you wont have unneeded males, you can have farms where cows go outside, as some farm here practice even today.
My point is you can have milk with much less suffering than what you have in nature, and that the relationship with cows can be very good.
Also artificial insemination is not a rape, rape exist in humans, it is the panic of a woman to have the baby of a unwanted male who wont help with raising that kid, cows dont have this in they psyhology, sticking your hand for a short time in the cow wont provide even a 1% of the panic that will unfold in raping a human...
Sometimes veganism is indeed something like a religion, true nature works in a different way, you have to suffer a little bit in order to exist, nothing in nature is 100% "suffer free", that is the truth...
If you have a relationship with an animal species that is more love and less suffering than the average level in nature, then how exactly it is bad?
Also lets be realists, if everyone stop consuming milk then what will happen with cows? How many cows there will be?
They cant live in nature and they are expensive pets, reality is that you will have just few in the zoos and few other places, 99.99% of cow population will go extinct.
Does the cows will be "happy" with that scenario?
Dairy junkie monks are funny. 😂
YOU CONFRONTED MONKS. Lol. I think I'll give to your Patreon in a few weeks when I have more spending cash.
Funny how some of the most “open minded” people are actually the most closed minded
The amount of spiritual bypassing in this video is maddening
I'm a vegan and have a Hindu background as well. It's obviously clear that the modern dairy industry is absolutely cruel in all aspects which is why I don't support it. However, in many rural areas of India, cows are like pets, and the family only drinks the milk of their own cow. The cows aren't artificially inseminated and when the calf is born, it is allowed to take all the milk it needs. Only then does the family drink the remaining milk. While some may say it's exploitative, it's really a symbiotic relationship where the cows are showered with love and care like a family member in return for the last bit of it's milk. If that excess milk isn't milked, the cows are usually in pain.
Btw love your work and activism.
They say its all about teaching and learning but are trying so hard to be Ignorant when they have the opportunity.
‘in today’s world the meat industry is the dairy industry’ - HH
I worship Krishna, i know he wouldn’t want the dairy industry, since from him I have achieved much spiritual growth without dairy
That being said
When we treat cows like our own mother, we deserve our mothers milk
17:50 Brain freeze 😂😂😂😂
Ridiculous people, i nearly crawled up the wall.
I'm not religious... but wouldn't it be hilarious if people met their god at the gates of heaven only for god to say: "wtf were you doing eating my animals!? I constantly sent you signals to stop hurting my animals for your selfish pleasure and you ignored them.... to hell with you!"
GutsToCuts Precisely! I think about this too when faced with religious hypocrites 🙄
Muslims say that Allah created animals just for the meat for the humans and that the animals are very happy to be killed by believers. Only by believers because a animal is not happy if he will be killed in a not halal manner. So animals are a gift by Allah and Allah will be angry with a vegan, because he is not grateful to Allah. My discussion with a muslim.
God allow us to eat any animal as longest it don't have too toes God isn't here or Jesus not tell us not to eat it but we choose to eat it cause that's what he gave us Jesus also ate Lamb chicken bread milk he was also a fisherman n he help fisherman catch tons of fish we have to pray to the father for what we eat and be thankful for what we have you vegan aren't no one to tell us how to live our lives we take it what we want and as longest the law allows it not much u can do about it billions of people like me will agree with me it not called murder if you don't get arrested for it not called cruelty if law allows it it not called raped unless you get penalized for it do it to human you get arrested there a law on rape on human sexual harassment on humans as longest there no law broken we have the free right to do what we want you cant take our right as human if there no law stopping us
I’m a Indian and a proud vegan🕉
Its not right to say that a chicken deserves to live but a cow doesn’t every living being wants to live even if they don’t lactate
The types of monks you used in the thumbnail are a completely different culture and religion to the festival and people you are filming yourself educate btw
Yes!
The ISCKON farms take really great care of cows ,cows are not kept in caged areas etc.
Most of my interactions with people involved in Krishna Consciousness have involved them trying to guilt trip me into buying some of their books.
@The Peacetime Book Club
Well hare Krishna has really similar goals to veganism and is trying to shift humanities collective consciousness to a better place ... can you blame them for being pushy?
would you say vegans using slaughterhouse footage is "guilt tripping" and shouldn't be done?
@@LordOfDhara I'm sure that I must have looked anxious on every occasion but they kept trying to convince me to buy them even when I said I already had too many books to read and that I didn't have much money.
@@thepeacetimebookclub3029 weird usually they give the books away
My family members cannot imagine hurting any animals in their dreams but they eat dairy products every day. When I point this discrepancy to them, they just go blank !!
I'm a Hare Krishna, actually my whole family is. And most of us have turned vegan (or are leaning that way) prior to being lacto vegetarian.. Bcoz of the calf deaths & torture dairy cow's go thru. We live inline with that "selflessness" the monk talk of. It was a tradition in Hinduism to worship cows & use milk as a sacred magical product. Back thousands of yrs ago Hindu scriptures wrote about cows being massaged with expensive oils, worshipped, wearing gold necklaces & treated like royalty. Never killed, never beaten. It was the highest sin to be cruel to a cow as they were seen as goddesses of the earth. But these days the culture is not like that. Not even in India. They just use and abuse them for their milk. So like all cultures. I think Hare Krishna and Hindus need a reform of their misconceptions about milk instead of turning a blind eye and pretending it's still like the good old scriptural days..