Jim Ross shoots on why we never got Hulk Hogan vs Steve Austin
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Hulk hogan : give me the stunner and I'll kick out,
Austin : "WHAT?"
Whatcha ganna Do
Having a laugh. Even in a loss hogan gonna kick out at 3.000000000001
@@danspille1864 so what . Your ganna cry about 4 life or what !!??
@@danspille1864
Watch the match Stone Cold did with Mr. Perfect when Hennig came back. Hennig BARELY sold the Stunner and popped out of the ring casually walking to the back after he got pinned.
But he lost to the Rock so why couldn't he lose to Austin
The moving background makes me think im Spiderman
I heard a recent interview with Hogan and he said his two biggest regrets were not wrestling Austin and Bret Hart... Pretty sure he dodged Hart for 10 years....
Longer than that Bret signed in what 85? plus thier wcw days?
I remember when Hart actually joined the NWO on Hogan’s side..That was so stupid and made no sense..A Hogan Hart feud would have been perfect there..
As far as Hart goes, he did an interview with Austin not too long ago where he said he should have worked with Hogan right away when he went to WCW. It never happened.
Hogan has no wrestling skill against bret. Bret would of exposed him
@@just2slick195 watch Hogan in Japan he can wrestle plus his match with macho man WM5
"That just doesn't work for me, brother!"
😂😂😂😂
Lol
"I'm scared that the fans will cheer for Hogan and boo me so I will forego the biggest payoff in my life." - Steve Williams
NwO vs Rock & Austin on RAW was a good tag match
Hell yeah!
It was but Hogan and Austin barely touched......Rock vs Hogan was great but add in a follow up Wrestlemania with Hogan Austin would have been just as great!!!
@@mojennith6427
I've read this like 6x already, & I still have absolute no idea wtf it's supposed to mean.
I'm not trying to be an asshole. It just doesn't make sense.
"It was but Hogan and Austin barely touched.....Rock vs. Hogan." They never wrestled each other. Ever. That's the main point of discussion.
Literally everything else you said makes even less sense.
Carlos Danger Jr. I mean Hogan and Austin wrestled each other for a little bit in the NWO vs Rock and Austin match on Raw. I was saying that the following year could have been Hogan vs Austin at mania and it would have been just as big as Hogan vs Rock. I just wish we would have got the 1 on 1 match and feel like it should have only happened at Mania.
ya very memorable.
Seeing Angle make hulk hogan tap out was amazing. Seeing mr McMahon sign a contract with Hogan’s blood even better.
Knowing Hogan was a bigger star than both. Priceless
I always forget Angle made Hogan visibly submit. that's insane. because Hogan has 'submitted' before but that was at starrcade '97 with that bogus finish and he didnt actually tap he just verbally submitted I guess because Bret Hart just called for the bell. again this was after Hogan had already won with a nice slow three count. so it actually looked like Hogan got screwed. but yeah it's crazy he actually tapped out to kurt angle. I think that should be brought up more when talking about Kurt's accomplishments in pro wrestling.
@@himynameisbrandonlee Knowing that as big a star as he was, he still wound up becoming a washed-up has-been who spent the 2000s & 2010s slumming it and making an embarrassment of himself and demonstrating, especially in his final WWF/WWE run, that he was always a shitty wrestler who couldn't work for shit and just rode an epic marketing wave in the 80s and 90s and that's it is even more priceless.
@@himynameisbrandonlee knowing angle gave us way more greater matches than hogan, priceless !
@@dildonius how exacvtly did hogan make an embarrassment of himself? dumbass
6:25 Hearing Jim Ross say I don't give a FUCK was everything I never knew I needed.
I'm so glad it never happened. Rocky, being able to sell for Hulk like that, made the match legendary
SCSA could have sold a great fight too..
John Sorto no he wouldn’t. Look at how meh Austin’s match with Hall was.
The rock is not particularly great in the ring but he’s great at making whoever he’s working with look like a credible threat. Particularly an over the hill Hogan
@@jgeorge2693 Austin just didn't take the Hall match seriously... Austin would have definitely had to been on that day but he could work a match with regal right?..
@@johnsorto6737 but what if Steve couldn't work a heel match like that if he was the one being booed? That's also another one of the things The Rock could do, too. He, as J.R. himself would put it, "sold like a heel". Austin at that point in his career couldn't.
@@MylesW304 it's not that he couldn't.. I believe its Austin wouldn't at that point but I still think he was talented enough to do so..
I would liked to have seen a "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" type of situation between Hulk, Rock and Austin. The triple threats of all ages.
Gotta put Cena in for the fatal 4 way cuz i think those 4 are like the most that drew $$$$
@@Bsfnelz20 don't ruin my fatal three way
@@mattsharkey8437 lmfao how did i know i was gonna push a button but yea that dream match should of happened at the wrestle mania when the nwo came back
@@Bsfnelz20 just joking. You can have your fatal four way at Backlash
Sooo, Hogan would be “The Ugly”?
Honestly I think Rock was a better matchup. Rock had the right energy and showmanship to match Hogan
Without Jim Ross there will be no attitude era
Everything Africa the Attitude Era would have still happened with or without Ross but he made a little better
There’s about 1000 components. You can’t just arbitrarily pick one and say it fails without
Ring the damn bell ref
@Zee Dee 😂😂😂
Seriously?
Rock was/is more of a showman than Steve, which is what made the WM18 match so good. Rock had the patience to play the part up to the cartoonish level that Hulk's old days were at, which is why the nostalgia pop was so appreciated in this match. Hulk and Steve would have been the two icons of the business at that time but they could not have possibly put together something as entertaining as what Rock and Hulk did.
Out of all the Hogan Stories it's the Undertaker "ouch my neck you got me brother" that bothers me the most.
Undertaker is an ungrateful person before debuting in wwf in 1990 hulk hogan gave him an opportunity for undertaker to be in his movie as villain in a movie in subbarban commando then in 1 year only in 1991 he was fighting for the wwf title with hulk hogan that undertaker is a ungrateful evil and will never be bigger than hulk hogan
I'm huge Taker fan. But he should of just been great full for even being in that spot 1 year into his wwf run. After wcw thought he was a bust.
I think when he was telling that story. He forgot a little bit about where he came from. And was looking at himself in his present status.
@@MrJjburgess11 undertaker was never greater than hulk hogan
Lets see the facts
When hulk hogan left after wrestlemana 8 in 1992 undertaker became the face of wwf ? NO did he became the biggest draw in wwf NO vince have to relate to macho man,ric flair and ultimate warrior and bret hart not undertaker when hulk hogan came back in 1993 he becamd the face of wwf again in wrestlemania 9 when hogan left in 1993 after he did the european tour did undertaker became the face and the Draw in wwf ? NO vince have to relate to bret hart not undertaker
When hulk hogan when to wcw wcw start beating wwf in rating what did undertaker do NOTHING did he became the face of wwf? Did he became the biggest draw in wwf when hogan went to wcw ? No lets look when wcw made the NWO in 1996 did undertaker made a difrent to beat wcw ? NO he was nothing compare to the NWO so lets look when undertaker beat sycho sid in wrestlemania 13 and compare undertsker champion run in 1997 that run was a failere he never beat wcw in ratings in 1997 so vince have to put the champion again on bret hart so undertaker from 1990 to 2000 he never was a big draw and he never did nothing huge to be the face or the big draw in wwf so lets go further undertaker did nothing to wwf to beat wcw so vince have to relay in other guys like bret hart shawn michaels rick flair and them when vince was almost out of bussines who saves vince and the wwf ? Undertaker lol what a joke if was stone cold steve austin and the rock and vince yes vince thw hottest thing in wwf in 1998 was austin vs macmahon so stop the crap undertaker never was a big draw never was the face of wwf and vince always hace to relay in sombody else not undertaker and went undertaker have his breat with the title what did he did ? Did he draw did he break records ? NO
So how dare people said that this clown of undertaker if even close to hulk hogan
Wwf was succesful because hulk hogan hulk hogan put wwf worldwide hulk hogan was the face always in wwf and he was the face in wcw and he almost put wwf to the ground with the NWO
Even went hulk hogan came back in 2002 he became the more over talent in wwf went he came back and hogan was more over than taker by that time
So stop the crap hulk hogan is bigger than undertaker later undertaker came with the streak
But the streak dont mean nothing
The guy who made the hard work was hulk hogan who made sport entertaiment and made wrestling worlwide and remenber hulk hogan with mr t was the reason that wrestlemania was suscced
@@LeBronBoxing4Life I was agreeing with you . In my comment. I know Taker was never as big as Hogan. I was replying to the OP.
@@LeBronBoxing4Life I'm pretty sure he was agreeing with you man. Shit plus that's way too long to read god damn.
One thing people got to remember is that Steve Austin was one hell of a wrestler,not sports entertainer but wrestler,the dude could put in that work,the reason Austin vs Hart was so good because both were great wrestlers, Hogan and the rock worked because of the entertainment, they was cut from the same cloth.
Rock wAs Not A GooD WrEsLeR really ? He could sold better than Austin and Hogan is different from Bret so if Rock faced Bret Hart it would’ve different
@@daherreysso2826 I dont think he meant it like that bro,Rock definitely wasnt a technician by any means and quite possibly had one of the worst sharpshooters ever.But The Rock was a great worker as far as psychology.."where,when,and how" to do things ..u cant forget he literally started wrestling in 96.Austin and Bret had full long careers full of experience.The Rock caught on very quickly tho,he learned alot from Austin.
Juice Fargo I will say he didn’t learn a lot from Austin as their style wasn’t that much similar maybe before the neck injury but after that Austin was a brawler
@@daherreysso2826 let me know if u want the links from austin saying he taught the rock alot,and the the rock saying he learned alot from austin(that's on the rocks Instagram atleast 3 times)
Austin not an entertainer? Ok, 97-99 is the reason WCW went of business in 2001, and who was responsible for that? Stone Cold. Rock just sailed off of Austin's foundation of the Attitude Era.
As soon as Vince said he was signing Nash, everyone in the back knew a quad tear was coming. And guess what? They were right.
Lmao wtf 😂
I'm willing to bet all those bitching about Austin Vs Hogan would have been first in line to see it. Regardless of how the match would have came out, it's sad it never happened. Just like the first opportunity to have Flair and Hogan at Mania 8.
I think the reason that vince decide to not have that match in mania 8 is becaise hulk hogan was leaving after wrestlemania 8 remeber the steroid trial so i guees vince though how i am going to put hogan vs flair and let hogan win the title is he is leaving
So vince went for macho vs flair
@@LeBronBoxing4Life I know there were lots of problems...just too bad it didn't happen then...
@@ferox965 agree 100%
@@LeBronBoxing4Life Could you imagine the pop Austin vs Hogan would have had? If the pop from Hogan vs Rock says anything...it would probably have been the loudest pop in history.
@@LeBronBoxing4Life but flair left too though
9:14 “Look at the match Rock had at Wrestlemania 18 with The Rock” 😄
Apparently JR thought The Rock was facing Don Muraco.....which woulda been interesting in itself even in 2002, but I digress lol.
Rock could have a great match with himself.
I loved that match. It really gave “wrestling with yourself” a whole new meaning. When The Rock gave The Rock the “Rock Bottom”, it was like pure art. You could truly see the depths of his internal struggle in his face and in his unsuccessful pinfalls.
*Phone rings for a few seconds*
"YoU gOnNa Do SoMeThInG wItH tHaT?¿?"
A bit dom of Conrad
Boi better watch how he talks to good ol JR
@@countof3everybodyOD I'm sayin!
glad I'm not the only one that noticed that
Shoulda left it ring for that jackass comment
Austin/Hogan would've been like Breaking Takers Streak....
You think you want to see it until you do.
Then you wish you hadn't.
I never wanted to see the streak broken. It would have taken flawless storytelling and a once in a lifetime talent/character to believably end the streak. Brock Lesnar is not a character. He's not a once in a lifetime talent. I like Brock. But he didn't deserve to beat Taker.
Austin/Hogan could have worked but WWF didn't have the writing talent to handle the story line and it sounds like Austin and Hogan weren't bought in either.
@@3d1k3
Hogan wanted to do it.
Austin didn't want to do it because he felt Hogan was older and slower snd felt that the styles would clash.
It made sense for Austin to win but Hogan wanted to win or he wouldn't do it and Austin said Hell No and that was it.
I agree with you about The Streak though.
Most people wanted to see it.
I was NOT 1 of those people.
@@jayhood8514 yeah, wrestling fans are weird. I have no way to prove this but, it seems like younger newer wrestling fans wanted to see undertaker blues. Maybe not all of them, but I can't see many wrestling fans from The Attitude Era and before wanting to see take her lose especially with the lack of talent in the PG era. If taker was to lose it would have to be at somebody who was on the verge of being over and also who had a character that made sense to beat the undertaker's character. Age is the only person I can think of that was close enough. Maybe Finn Balor or Bray Wyatt if they push them the right way but WWE has ruined both of those characters
@@3d1k3
John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista, Bray & Brock are the only 5 ive seen since 2002 that could've been big in the attitude era.
Maybe Eddie Guerrero, Y2J , Mysterio, Angle and even Benoit too.
But Bray Wyatt & The fiend characters are the ONLY characters I've seen that would've THRIVED in the attitude era & ruthless aggression era.
And WWE murdered both of the characters.
@@jayhood8514 I agree. I think there are others who would have been great mid carders or big in spots. Big E would've been a better Ahmed. I can see him doing great in the Nation of Domination angle. Maybe even leaving when left and instead of Rocky turning against the whole Nation he and Big E. could bounce and Big E. could be to him what Diesel/Kevin Nash was to Shawn Michaels and then go on to bigger and better.
What about Finn Balor/The Demon??? I think with better coaching and better writing that could be a great character. Kind of like how Mick Foley would use Cactus Jack when he needed to, Finn could do a better job of using the Demon when he met darker or more formidable opponents. WWE/F could have it to where Finn was an impressive upper mid to lower high carder with a decent record but, as the Demon he would develop an impressive when streak that wasn't even acknowledged until shortly before the Finn/Taker feud would even happen. As the Demon he would never cut promos. He would have a very different, more aggressive and even dirty move set and finisher. They could even stretch it to where if enough of the paint wore off and Finn noticed it his moves wouldn't connect as much and he'd be in danger of almost losing. And just when Taker figures this out plans to "beat the paint" off of him, The demon emerges with a new Kane like suit/Fiend like mask that stays on and they duke it out until the Demon hits his finisher and ends the streak.
Letting Rock and Hogan go before HHH and Jericho at Wrestlemania was like letting James Brown go before the Rolling Stones on the Tami show.
I don’t think they realised how huge that match would end up becoming
I do sometimes wonder about this, but when I think about it, I think Austin might be right. I really can’t see their styles working very well together, especially as Hogan was turning baby face.
I agree. It would have been garbage to me.
The match wouldn't have been good as Hogan was too slow for Austin's style. So Austin was right in terms of match quality. But I think if the match was planned in advance like Hogan/Warrior, it could have worked given the spectacle of the two icons facing off
I remember back in 1998 I read an article that said Hogan was going back to WWF. It didnt mention about wcw going down just that Hogan wanted to finish his career with WWF
Hogan kinda comes off as a snake in the world of wrestling so wouldnt surprise me. $$$$
I thought it was right around 97 survivor series but Bruce Prichard said hogan only did it to get more money from Ted turner and everyone knew about it
Hollywood Hogan gimmick vs Stone Cold....Give me a hell yeah brother!!
9:14 Look at the match that Rock had at Wrestlemania 18 with The Rock
He did mention that he was drinking a screwdriver. I caught that too.
@@disintegrateallhumans4800 screwdriver is a cocktail 🍸
@@gwiz1267 He knows
Though Hogan-Austin is still one of the biggest dream matches, at the time The Rock was the best choice. He had his movie career taking off and Austin, though still the man, had lost steam post invasion angle. The what?! chant was over as hell then but once Hogan came back, the nostalgia was overwhelming. Too bad Hogan vs Austin never happened though.
I quit watching wrestling in 2000 and came back in 2002. I noticed a huge difference in Austin's presence in both of those years. Austin was no longer THE Spectacle he was in 2000 and before.
DJ Trankilo For sure. He was big but definitely not as big as the pre-heel turn and 1998-1999.
Austin from 97 to 99 was great. They should've never turned him heel at the time they did when he came back
@ DJ Trankilo- You missed all of 2000? That was one of the best years in wwe history (especially the 2nd half of that year). You missed a lot my friend. As Ron Simmons would say:.....’DAMN!’.
@@disintegrateallhumans4800 maybe it was 2001. Because I remember still watching when the 6-man Hell in the Cell match happened
Would have been excellent if Hogan hulked up and Austin just began cursing and flips Hogan off before stomping an adrenaline hole thru the Hulkster lol
Austin hits stunner, 1 2, hogan kicks out and hulks up, Austin flips him off hits another stunner 1 2 3...would of been hilarious
Sorry Austin marks ^^ but Hogan team beat Austin Team in a Tag match in 2002 ^^
@@Aizenborgman So? Hogan tapped like a jobber to Kurt Angle at King of the Ring 2002, it's all scripted my guy.
You sound like an idiot. I bet you drive a noisy truck with a nutsack hanging from the back and have skull tats.
@@GorditoCrunch343 i know my guy . I was not talking to you ^^ i was talking to the guy who talks like it was real ^^ get it ^____^ ???
Steve stuck it to hogan for all the nonsense he did but that rock and hogan match was priceless
Austin actually pulled a punk move by grabbing all his little toys and running home. It's an Ultimate Warrior type move and that's as selfish as you can get..
@@johnsorto6737 he walked away from a shitload of Hogan cash.
Imagine if it had been a triple threat
@@johnsorto6737 fast forward and look at what hogan pulled on HBK in ‘05, Austin was smart enough not to give Hogan the opportunity to pull the any BS.
@@StrikeTeam0316 If you believe what HBK says but Shawn LIES for days plus I wouldn't put HBK over. He is corny as DX..
Sheesh! I've never heard Jim Ross drop an F bomb before...I'm 31.
We got really four dream matches during the 2002 Hulkamania Renaissance run. Hogan-Rock, Hogan Triple H, Hogan-Angle & Hogan-Lesnar. So that was good enough for me. Hogan-Austin will always be one of the biggest what-ifs in wrestling history though but maybe those that thought the match wouldn't have come off as good were right. We'll never know.
9:13 Holy shit I never knew Rock had a match with himself at Wrestlemania 18 😱
Austin's ego didn't want him to be bood over Hogan which most likely would have happened, the pops Hogan got in WM18 was just off the planet.
I 100% agree with you. Austin would not have out popped Hogan that night.
IMO Austin would of popped fine. The Rock has serious heat in Canada from doing the Sharpshooter and mocking Montreal.
I don’t think Austin would have been booed but I think Hogan’s pop would have been louder due to novelty/nostalgia. I think Austin knew Hogan would always be manoeuvring for his own advantage, which didn’t engender any trust
He wouldnt have though
Because it was in Canada. Rock was getting more cheers the week earlier in the US. Austin would of got way more cheers in the US
Rock vs Hogan was the pinnacle of american wrestling. It may not of been the technically best match but it was the show people wanted and the performers nailed it. While there have been good matches since I dont think any have reached this level again. And that's the bad thing about it your always looking at what was. Its like world of sport in UK in the 80s the Crabtree- haystack feud was everywhere and everyone fan or not knew there names. But once it was done and dusted there was nothing left that fans thought might match it and without a billionaires clout to keep it running in that downtime it was a dead brand within a few yrs.
After Austin vs Hogan sure Rock vs Hogan was the backup plan and what fans wanted the second most. That non debateable, accepted as common knowledge fact proves the rest of your factless uneducated drivel irrelevant.
Really Conrad? “You gonna do something with that”
Thought the exact same thing
“Yeah I’m gonna hang up the god damn phone if you don’t change your attitude”
I know right check that tone son! Yu need him he don’t need you
It sounded a little disrespectful and rude.
Conrad is a fuckin nasally voiced prick.
I think Hogan///Austin could've worked, but as a hardcore match or Hell in a Cell...something more brutal than a standard match. Get some color, have Austin go over. Make Hogan look tough as hell, but have Austin still be the toughest sob in the end.
Definitely could work, have Hogan drop the cartoony shit while doing so.
one story that always makes me laugh is when the nwo got there one of the first things they did in the locker room hall and nash did was go up to the dudley boys and tell them how much they love their tag finisher and how awesome it was then hall said..."I cant wait to kick out of it" he was obviously joking but apparently that made bubba ray furious 🤣🤣🤣
That or Scott telling people to "tuck their chin in during his finisher" was also a good one lol
It should of been Austin v HHH for the title at WM18, with Hogan v Rock as the main event!
Dam Conrad watch how you talk to JR fool
So I guess at WM 18 fans picked Hogan over Rock and it makes me wonder who fans would've picked in a Hogan-Austin.
They would have.
Impossible for fans to turn on Austin...
"You gonna do something with that?"
🤣🤣
😂😂😂 he was annoyed,
Yeah, just gonna turn it off
It's Simple Because The WWE Can Suck At Dream Matches & Invasion Angles.
It would not have been a dream match because Hogan was too much past his prime. If Hogan was in his prime then kayfabe wise Austin would really have stood no chance because Hogan in his prime was booked as one of the most dominant wrestlers ever.
Would've rather seen Austin vs Goldberg
Dream line up
Main Event Austin vs Goldberg
Other matches
Rock vs Hogan
Undertaker vs Sting
DX Triple h and Shawn Michaels vs NWO hall and nash
Kurt Angle vs Booker T
Scott Steiner vs Chris Jericho
Vince and Shane vs Bischoff and Flair
They did brawl a couple times, ending with Goldberg getting the stunner
@@gwiz1267 they never brawled. Goldberg got a stunner after the Lesnar/Goldberg match. It was payback for when Goldberg accidentally speared Austin, but they never brawled.
@@jodystrickland9150 no they brawled, went toe 2 toe punch for punch at the bottom of the entrance ramp, on a different occasion aswell
@@gwiz1267 that happened on the the episode of SD going in mania. LESNAR stole Austin's ATV and Austin went to SD to take it back. Goldberg wasn't involved
That “Our styles would clash” excuse is bullshit. I cannot believe JR is advancing it.
he's saying thats what austin said
Austin hits stunner, Hoganholds neck and says oh you got me brother
Ive always thought Austin VS Cena would of been better then Austin VS Hogan. Face of the attitude era vs face of the PG Era, the promos alone woulda been priceless
yea you would like the stupid pg era
@@chriszaa2309 No hogan was overrated as fuck. Now hes an overrated has been.
@@redneck400m3 you must be some 12 year old who likes pc wrestling you are gay
@@chriszaa2309 Lmao. i grew up with the attitude era. Way older then 12. But im guessing youre around that age. Piss off kid
For people being butthurt by Vince McMahon bringing Hulk Hogan back in 2002 A: they hate Hulk Hogan or B: they obviously don't know a lick about business or how it works, I'm sorry but in 2002 when Vince brought him back, the guy still had some mileage left, he still had some big matches left in him, so if the opportunity to bring Hulk Hogan back to the promotion he helped build, you do it without hesitation;, I mean he's still HULK HOGAN for goodness sake...
I love the idea of Hogan getting denied a match with Austin.
How does it feel, brother?
I'm sure 65,000 people screaming their guts out for him at the Skydome and then giving him a 10-minute standing-ovation the next night on RAW felt pretty damned good.
@John D pretty sure he cared about the pay day
Fuck hogan.
@John D 02-05 says otherwise my friend; I am of those who think Hogan was definitely more successful than Austin and played a bigger role but Hogan without a shadow of a doubt cared about facing the next top star in the history of the business. Hogan tried in 2002 and then tried again in 2005, and apparently, unless it's BS, Austin did not know Hogan wanted to call him out on a match in 2005.
Hogan vs Austin the match that never happened. The fans are the losers here
Crowd would have been 50/50 for Austin vs Hogan or 51/49 crowd in Hogan favor due to Nostalgia. Canada loves Stone cold and Hogan. Look at Austin pop and Hogan pop at No way out 2003.
I would have loved to see Hogan hulk up and wave his finger and then Austin flips him off stunner 123. That pop would have been huge
That finish would have been amazing. Afterwards hall and nash attack hogan, austin makes the save and the next ppv would be hogan,austin vs hall and nash.
Honestly I highly doubt it..I think against anyone else for hogan than yea but against Austin? No way the crowd will always have more love for Austin
@@eddiemarin2984 not true. Hogan would've gotten the bigger pop at that time in Canada. Pops are generally about timing and location. Both favor Hogan for that moment.
@@eggiej25 Not true everyone knows Austin gets the biggest pops and has the crowd/fanbase the most even as a heel. Vince says Austin is the GOAT, Rock says Austin is the GOAT, the numbers show Austin is the GOAT. You're wrong.
@@jbailey690 Actually Rock said Hogan is. If you ask most in the industry who the Biggest star ever was, they will say Hogan.
Fantasy booking aside, Austin probably was right about him and Hogan.
Could've been one of those things where it sounded better on paper.
Come on guys give us a break from these ads 3 ads for a 12 15 mins clip this is why I don’t watch grilling with jr tooooo many ads
That Saban monologue by JR is GOLD
In retrospect seeing how Austin always gushes about his love for mid to late 80’s NWA I believe WM18 should’ve been: Rock vs Hogan, Austin vs Flair, Taker vs hall, and the undercard could still play out the way it did
Taker recently turned heel. I think Austin deserved hogan more because stone cold was the guy that kickstarted the attitude era and revived the wwe. This and the heel turn is what led to stone cold walking out. And hogan should have heel longer and gave us the invasion angle we wanted.
Why did you guys get rid of the old channel that had almost 100k subs? Just curious
RUclips channel Algorithms change at 100k subs(not for the betterment of the content creator)....It tends to be in the creators best interests to start over
@Mother Algorithm Andy over at Popcorn Planet has an interesting video presentation on the issue...like him or not..among other RUclipsrs. ..breakdown of YT " insider baseball" strategies, practices ect...as it pertains to getting the best value for advertisers. ..YT is a business first.
Instead of speculating all you need to do is go listen to Austin's podcast with Hogan where they finally discuss it face-to-face. Both guys admitted that it was a mistake not to do business. More-so Austin because he had the say in the matter and turned it down.
I think that if the WWF had not turned Austin heel at Wrestlemania X-7, they had a *PERFECT* opportunity to turn him heel at this juncture.
hogan would not of lost to Austin in if I was Austin I would not of ever lost to hogan
@@cecilmccoy4890 Hogan lost more than he won when he came back to wwe
@@rogerwood9922 They were almost never "clean" loses though... it was always a schmoze ending.
Yep. That would have been a monumental heel turn!
It would have been an anticlimax and bad for business and also Legacy. Also, remember this. Austin will be remembered as the "STAR" who was pipped by Hogan and all Nostalgic wrestling fans will be immediate to point out how Hogan was the bigger star and blah blah, forgetting that guys like Austin were the reason why Hogan had to jump ship from WCW (because it went out of business) in the first place, meaning Austin had outsold not just Hogan, but almost the entire WCW roster in terms of ticket and PPV sales. Why ruin Austin;s legacy with ONE single match that totally rewrites History.
If egos didn’t exist, pro wrestling would be unbelievable.
I always preferred The Rock over Stone Cold
It would have been terrible. Hogan wouldn't have jobbed and who would have believed that a big leg drop would take out Austin.
Yet that year Hogan wound up putting over a lot of people...
Hogan put over Rock, so why wouldn't he have put over Austin?
@@romans52345-cy3tq It's clear Austin is a bigger star in the wrestling world.
@@sakibdagoat Bigger than Rock?? Not even close, well you could be right in terms of the Wrestling world but in terms of worldwide mainstream appeal, Austin doesn't hold a candle to The Rock
@@romans52345-cy3tq in all fairness to Austin, if he didn't have so many problems with his body, he would be just as big of a movie star as The Rock, as that is what he said held him back. Hollywood wanted him in many action movies, and his neck and knee issues prevent him from doing the kind of movies that the Rock does
9:13 the rock at W.M18 when he vs .....the rock😱😲😨😧
Duuuuude! Mind blown lol
It’s because Steve is a baby (albeit a smart one) and knew the crowd would cheer hogan over him just like what happened to the rock and didn’t want proof he’s only the second best WWE champ of all time.
there just wasn't much room for it. they made the right choice with rock vs Hogan in 2002. then Austin left. by the time Austin came back, he was already battered up with his neck. sure they maybe could have done it in 2003, but Austin knew he was retiring. chose the rock to retire on. Hogan and vince was a great match at WM 19 too. it just didn't happen.....because it wasn't meant to happen. Hollywood Hogan vs Austin in 98 would have been white hot and made all of the money they could have ever wanted. in fact, 1998 was probably the best time for WCW and WWF to cross promote and do some really big super shows. could have made some really big money in 1998. and only 1998. 97 would have been too soon, and 99 would have been too late.
I was most disapointed cause other Grilling JR videos ive seen have that burger grilling as the image. Great interview.. Just miss the burger
11:18 JR drinking a screwdriver. Me too!
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The Attitude Era had it all.. A stacked to the freaking roof roster, and the best tag team commentators ever in Good Ole JR and Jerry "The King" Lawler! Damn I miss these days so much!!🙌🙌👍❤😉😉
JEERY LAWLER YES BUT JIM ROSS WAS A PIECE OF CRAP.
@@spectrumlocalb191 You know Jim? I'll assume you do since you made such a bold statement about the man's character!👍
Not wrestling Hogan was Austin's loss and the Rock's gain.
Rock had the best match of his career and arguably the most memorable match of all time.
Austin couldn't put his ego and pride away and it cost him..
Vince has always "what's good for business" He tries to check his ego the the door and do what's best for the company and fans
This match is best left to the imagination.
Man imagine if we got hulk vs rock and hulk vs Austin in back to back wrestlemania lol would’ve been insane to do at 18 and 19
I definitely could agree with Austin his style would clash with Hulk Hogan.
In my opinion, at the time when the NWO came in, the Austin character was becoming stale with all the what BS, Steve wasn't in a great frame of mind and Rock was flying.
11:15 goals
Steve Austin vs Terry Funk would have been a much better match
Even if they were on the same page all the way, it still wouldn’t have worked because Austin’s style of wrestling in your face, very aggressive and non stop. Hulk wrestles a slower style, steady pace. Austin’s a title wave, Hogan’s a tsunami.
not to mention Hogan was way past his prime. Kayfabe wise Austin would really have stood no chance against Hogan in his prime.
Conrad pumping out ads and plug plugs almost fast as he shovels down double cheeseburgers.
I have a hard time even watching these videos anymore. I'm not against monetization but, jesus fucking christ, tone it down a bit.
@@RawKetchup i know, it is ridiculous. Love jr but its way too much
Conrad is an obnoxious, smug prick. Makes these podcasts intolerable. Have no idea who the hell he is other than a guy selling shit but he talks to big names that we are all familiar with like he is doing them a favor by interviewing them. Smh
A fanboy cashing in on the talent of real personalities and acting as if they owe him something.
and beats his wife
Styles will clash means Austin will never sell the Hulking up. And I don’t blame him
well I dont know he didnt have to "sell it" if the crowd would of had the exact same reaction and made Austin the heel and Hogan the face I think Austin could of done better than Rock did. it was weird seeing the crowd boo rock since it had been years since he was last heel at this point. Austin was a psychotic heel only a few months before this.
@@cjvaye99 It would be disappointing to see the crowd boo a face Austin who was instrumental in WWF winning the MNW and revolutionizing the business himself. A face Austin at his peak was virtually near un booable if that is even a word. Austin's heel turn in 2001 was ignored and rightfully so. It would have been pathetic on the part of the fans to boo Steve after everything he did for them.
More like Hogan was slow, and Austin was fast...look at Austin vs Hall on Raw..its nonstop..Hogan is slow motion compared to Austin
@@NEMtvOfficial Hindsight, I personally believe Austin was just pissed about how WCW was handled and he didn’t want to be booed at WMX8. Hate to say it now but it’s the truth and Austin’s excuses always seemed more like he wanted avoid Hogan for these reasons.
@@captainjaber5610 Austin would never get Booed, even has a Heel it was hard to get fans to boo him...Austin had full confidence he was the bigger star and he was, Vince himself said Austin shattered all of Hogans records...Austin was like Jesus during that time, nobody would turn on him
Why nobody ever ask why didn’t we get Goldberg Vs Austin at mania ? They both were in the company at the time
It should have been nwo vs stone cold, leading to the eventual hogan vs Austin.
Cuz Stone Cold don't wrestle divas!
He did wrestle Debra in their home in 2002.
@@atifqavi2054 What?
Austin didn't wanna work with Hogan because he knew the crowd would've been more behind Hogan. Just look at what happened to The Rock lol.
Austin was more popular than rock tho. And i guarantee they wouldev had a 50/50 crowd. Half goin for austin and half goin for hogan.
Fucc no the would've been behind Austin...
@@kevinmorris5495 Maybe so but Hogan would've definitely out popped Austin.
@@JordanBritt not hollywood Hogan
@@JordanBritt Says no one else ever. No one out pops or out sells Austin. Even Vince & Rock admitted Austin is the GOAT, never comment again,
If it was me in charge. I’d have gone with showman vs showman. Blood and guts vs blood and guts.
Hogan vs rock
Austin vs flair.
I’d have made rock vs hogan what it was. But flair vs Austin because of the substantial age difference it would have been Austin on offence 98% of the time, with flair cheating when the ref isn’t looking getting a couple things in but because of the difference in age Austin finds his way back on top only for flair to cheat again. My finish would have been flair decides that he needs to go big and puts on the brass knuckles he’s hidden from the ref. Throws a massive punch, Austin ducks gut kick, stunner 1,2,3 and out. Austin leaves showing he’s the big dog and he can take anyone. Flair leaves having shown he’s wily and smart and can bridge the gap that there is physically and is still capable of going with the top guys.
Austin vs Hollywood Hogan would have been huge money. It should have happened. Rock vs Hogan could have been at summerslam 02 or at wm19.
Rock vs hogan was big money!!
Hogan Rock was the right call way better than Hogan Austin
The rock vs The rock WM18
XPAC was there
You caught that too
The only reason Rock vs Hogan worked was because Rock loved and idolized Hogan and had no issue putting his stuff over ...Austin on the other hand was not a fan of Hogan and i don't know if he would've sold for Hogan like Rock did. I can't see Austin in 2002 doing the shocked face when Hogan points the finger ...Austin would've had to have been in a better frame of mind and be willing to sell differently and i feel like he was so burnt out and knew his time was coming to an end so he was being very protective of his spot and that really screwed him out of two main event matches...Austin vs Hogan and Austin vs HHH for the title
Don’t blame Austin, hogan and his buddies did get him fired from wcw
@HassanAli63090 no they didn't lol ..they held him back but didn't get him fired. Austin got fired because when he got injured, Bischoff wanted him to come down to the headquarters and cut a promo and when Eric called Austin his wife picked up the phone and in the background he heard Austin say "tell those sumbitches im not here"...this was talked about on Austin's podcast. They definitely did hold him back though but thank god they did because we would've never have gotten Stone Cold
@@shredfan1987 thanks lol
2 of my favorites
Austin was in bitch mode at this point in his career. He hated how Triple H was becoming more powerful in the company. He had a rift with the Rock. And he and Hogan would never agree to put the other one over. Not to mention injuries were really taking a toll on him both physically and emotionally. Him no-showing numerous events just showed the state of mind that he was now in
In hindsight it was amazing how well this worked out. The Rock Vs Hogan was far bigger than Austin Vs Hogan now time has passed. 🙂✌️
Well considering hogan and Austin never even got started let alone become a thing....obv rock and hogan was bigger than something that never happened
My all time card:
Undertaker vs sting
Austin vs Goldberg
Hogan vs bret hart
Lou Thesz Vs Bruno Sammartino
Rock vs Warrior
Andre vs Flair
savage vs hhh
Antonio Inoki vs HBK
Everyone written first is the one going over.
"You going to do something with that?" That came across as very disrespectful.
Theres a way to talk to a grown as man, and theres a way not to.
Austin was right. I'm glad we never got it. It wouldn't have been a good match to watch.
Really what I always wanted to see during the Attitude Era was a Triple Threat between Steve Austin, Bret Heart, and Shawn Michaels. I even had billed in my head as Three Ways to Hell.
Rock and Hogan were the right match-up. They had great chemistry the way that Austin and Hart had. Its all about match-ups. Some guys match up better than others. Say whatever you want about Hulk. But when he came through, he came through BIG. When you look at the Andre, Warrior, and Rock matches. The crowd is just completely engulfed. And he had the same effect as a heel in big-time matches. Such as his Nitro matches with Luger and Goldberg. The crowd effect is just insane. It feels like the literal fate of the world is at stake based on what happens. This is why Hogan is one of the GOATS. He tapped into emotion in a way unrivaled by most.
That nick saban line was so funny lol
It is why Bret Hart should have just followed what Vince said, and agreed to drop the belt at Survivor Series 1997. The boss calls the shots. Especially in performance based entertainment like wrestling. Bret saying "I refuse to lose to Shawn in Montreal" would have been the same as some actor refusing to "lose" against someone in a movie fight.
Hogan would have wanted to win and austins like NO WAY
Ok then why did Hogan lose to Rock?
@@romans52345-cy3tq exactly. He was going to put Austin over to. Steve's ego is what stopped it. He knew Hogan would be cheered louder than him
@@swalker9482 lolololol No one got cheered or popped louder than Austin, try again.
Jesse Bailey why we never got The Rock vs Stone Cold both baby faces the only time that happened was WrestleMania X-7 and Yh it was in Dallas he knew he wouldn’t get cheered over Rock
@@jbailey690 Montreal is hulkamania country. Not even close
for whatever heat hogan gets, the fact he went 20mins & made the ultimate warrior look somewhat decent is beyond comprehension
And his Japan work, some of it is superb!
I mean, technical skills aside, wrestling is a business. So, at the end of the day, it's only about making happy fans, and getting them back in the seats consistently (and bringing friends!) and making money. And The Ultimate Warrior drew like nobody else in just a 3 year rise to the top.
Even Hogan had to work with jobbers for years and was in and out of the WWF before Vince finally knew how to give him a proper push - which worked.
But, even on ring skills, I may be in the minority here, but I think The Ultimate Warrior was good. A little hard to work with with how stiff he'd be on everybody else - but it looked real and it looked fierce. And the whole persona and quick matches were really cool.
His failed run in WCW was mostly due to dumb writers and him not fitting in with the more edgy, realistic storylines that had taken over by that time. Had Warrior been with WCW from the beginning/practiced more rasslin & japanese style wrestling, he could have been great as well.
He's not a John Cena 5 move special. He could hold a match on his own. Nowhere near Hart family level, but he really put on a show, sold merch, and drew fans. And, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Wrestling needs people like The Ultimate Warrior so the great technical wrestlers can make a decent living for themselves and their families.
It was alluded to a few times with Hogan and Austin at the hall of fame and Hogan cutting a promo in the ring about facing Austin, but it was a match that would have needed to take place several years earlier, not at the point of their careers they were at, so it was quietly dropped.
How come Stone Cold and Bill Goldberg never happened, that was the real Stone Cold dream match everyone wanted to see.
Simple, ego...
It could have happened at wrestlemania 2005, Hogan got back , and Austin could have got back for one more match
I was at Wrestlemania 18. I know I was exhausted after Rock/Hogan and has nothing left for the main event. They should have closed the show.
I agree. Hogan and Rock was what most people tuned in for. It was the main event.
Hogan didn’t want Austin to upstage him at Mania. That would’ve so wonderful to see.
That's completely false but whatever works for ya
Hogan was way past his prime. If Hogan was in his very prime Austin would have stood no chance kayfabe wise.
Honestly I think the rock is a better fit than stone cold