Nancy Kerrigan (USA) - 1992 Albertville, Ladies' Free Skate
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- Albertville, FRANCE - 1992 Winter Games, Figure Skating, Ladies' Free Skate - Nancy Kerrigan of the United States had a shaky skate, but it was enough to help her win the Bronze Medal.
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The choreography was beautiful to be on every beat of the music is very difficult. The final spiral is so breathtaking.
The details of the various hand motions and the punctuations of the music was elegant. Her flow was beautiful. But she looked hollow or scared through most of this program. Had she enhanced her sophisticated choreography with story telling and feeling she would have gone farther. The Vera Wang costume was gorgeous. .
Really well said and spot on!
The trouble was everyone was expecting a US sweep at Albertville like at Worlds which put a lot of pressure on the girls. Nancy was used to being in the background until she suddenly found herself in medal contention at Nationals and Worlds. Still she fought her way through to try to hold her place but Midori’s add in of the triple axel assured that she at least got the bronze.
@@beckyj.hollen2743Agreed. This was the season where Kerrigan was put under spotlight. It was even worse in 93-94 because Tonya’s skating slumped and Yamaguchi retired from amateur.
@@flightoflightning2505 I have to give Kerrigan credit here though even with the 3/3 from Yamaguchi, 3/3 and triple axel from Ito and Harding, quad attempts from Bonaly. she upped her difficulty from 92 nats and had 7 triples planned with a 3/3 too.
Very little chance was there going to be a sweep like 91 worlds unless Ito totally bombed BOTH programs again (slight chance considering the weight of the world Japan had put on her).
Singled two of her triple jumps and touched down on another. Not terrible, but like I wrote before, it's a good thing she skated so beautifully during the short program, it was enough to save the bronze for her.
Yes, I heard much later that the dress - which looked so beautiful on her - made it very difficult for her to accomplish the triple lutz. I don't know what happened on the last triple toe; the take off looked great, and it was wonderful in the air. The triple toe/triple toe combination problem could happen to anyone. I loved her triple flip, and her triple salchow, and her triple loop was good, but not as beautiful as the flip and salchow. So she still landed four clean triples; triple flip, first triple of the triple/triple combination, triple salcow, and triple loop. Her last triple toe was flawed in the landing, but still basically accomplished. Her lutz became a single. So basically the only deduction probably would have come with the flawed landing on the triple toe. I don't think there was a mandatory deduction for the combination or the lutz. Since it was a free program, she was entitled to do the second jump of the combination as a single, and the lutz as a single. Don't forget, she also did a beautiful double axel. So actually, she still had a lot of content: A double axel & 5 triples landed (one flawed). If she hadn't skated so early in the short program, she might have received the higher scores she deserved for it, and she might have walked away with the silver medal. I always loved this program.
I saw a Vera Wang documentary long ago and Vera said, this white dress was made of stiff Jersey material and had no “stretch” to it. Vera said when she watched Nancy skate this program, she held her breath hoping that the dress would not tear, rip or come apart during this free skate
Just like Harding's failure to maintain her skates, being certain your costume is suitable for skating is one of the responsibilities of a skater.
WTH? That sounds like the worst skating outfit ever, even though it looked gorgeous.
The Scotvolds packaged her well.
Paul Wylie too
Former skater and designer Vera Wang helped a lot.
They darned well did. Took her breathtaking Katherine Hepburnesque beauty, athleticism, balletic carriage, Boston blue collar work ethic, added some upscale Vera Wang and ran with it!🎉
She doesn’t hold that pose at the end. She puts her hand down to keep herself from falling over. She is light-hearted about it and kind of laughs at herself. You can see it on other clips of this performance, but this broadcast cuts away to her mother right before it happens.
I've never seen anyone so scared skate so beautifully!
Who is watching in 2023?? 😮 God bless Nancy Kerrigan 🥹🙏‼️
2024 here! Nancy is the best
Very interesting that she landed the triple flip (! is this the only major competition where she landed this?) and triple loop but missed on her better triples (lutz and toe loop)....while somewhat stiff, there's no denying that her skating basics were quite strong - skating skills, centered spins, good jump technique - and that gave her a good overall package.
Extremely interesting that she hit the 3 loop at both Olympic free skates (here and 94) and almost never anywhere else. She had nailed 3flip at 91 Worlds in munich too, as well as a couple random internationals over the years and 1990 nationals. But you are spot on, 3 loop and 3 flip she was notorious for doubling, hand down, or fall. Unpredictable skate indeed. Nancy made dozens of errors every year, but singling 2 jumps? That was bizarre here too. I personally think the ice was bad here and it affected stamina and jumping across all disciplines (not nancy specifically). The men's event was a complete train wreck here compared to 91 Worlds. Another theory is that (after no more practicing school figures for 2 years) the athletes all over-trained this cycle and came in nursing injuries and fatigued. Who knows.
@joshhalcyon1192 The last competition in which she landed the triple flip - as I recall - was at the 1993 Piruetten Competition, which I believe was in November of 1993, and was at the Lillehammer Olympic Ice Skating Venue. In the free program, she landed the triple flip, and everything else except the triple loop which she doubled. All the top 5 in the world competed there, except for Oksana; Nancy won the competition. And she was magnificent in the exhibition programs following the competition. In those Nancy seemed to skate with great confidence, security and fun.
No question she had some natural talent, but the US media made her a star, and she kind of cruised on that. At the end of the day for any performer, it doesn’t matter what you can do in rehearsal or training, it only matters what you can do when that spotlight is on you. Everybody can have a bad night, but Nancy had a lot of bad nights. Which really can be only put down to being under rehearsed and under prepared.
Agree with everything you said…except the last line. Many talented and very well-trained skaters over the years had inconsistent and sub par performances. Best example: Sasha Cohen.
@@Person-mh6xq I think that was the point I was making though. That every performer can have a bad night, but Nancy had lots of bad nights, hence the last line. The old acorn, if it happens once it unfortunate, but when it happens more often than that, it is a pattern. So many things can attribute to an off performance..nerves, something that has happened during the day that has interfered wit the necessary pre-performance headspace, pain, a sudden loss in confidence...every performer in every category has at some stage had an off performance because we are human beings..what starts to become problematic is when they repeat those same mistakes over and over again in many performances, that’s when you start to question the preparation and ability. Most people in her position, who are performing in a public arena, would take what happened, find where the weakness is, and work on it repetitively to iron out the wrinkles and strengthen to vulnerable points. Muscle memory is very useful for when nerves or doubt start to creep in. Ballet dancers can have a bad night, a musician in an orchestra can have a bad night, athletes can have a bad night..but they learn from it. I think that Nancy had so much other stuff going on, the skating became secondary, and it showed.
Yeah but tarasova once said that Sasha’s training was not Puritan in nature,…meaning she was lazy
I don't get it, how was her technical score only 0.1-0.2 lower than Kristi's?
Kristi's mistakes: hand down on triple loop, doubled the triple salchow
Nancy's mistakes: singled the 2nd triple toe loop attempt in the combination, singled the triple lutz, hand down on the triple toe loop
Exactly.
Although the program is beautifully constructed, it lacks technical content.
She doesn't have a 2nd Triple Lutz, no axel or quad, so my base mark would have been at 5.8. Those mistakes you listed plus the lack of difficulty in spins, I would give her 5.3 for technical & 5.5 for Artistic.
On paper, Tonya, Surya, Kristi and Midori should have beaten her in the long program.
the music and outfit definitely helped her out with her performance. if it weren’t for those 2 elements she would’ve flopped
Scott likes her-he trained with evy and Mary at wagon wheel -fun years there -learning back flip 😂
The judges were just keeping her propped up on the podium from the short program. Tanya Harding only missed the triple axle in her program and should have been on the podium. It's too bad they didn't have ijs back then.
Tonya was 6th in the short program, and she had troubles with more than her triple axel there. In the long, she had a decent skate, but fell on the triple axel, doubled the second jump of her triple/triple combination, and doubled another triple jump as well. Also, some of her jumps were not landed real well. We hear Scott saying during Tonya's performance that she already made too many mistakes to beat Kristi or Nancy. Also when Tonya would hit her triple axel, the excitement of that would inspire her to attack the program and make her music work for her, but when she missed that triple axel, everything else seemed to suffer, and her program didn't inspire, but would get a little boring.
It's a case of High Risk, High Rewards. But God save you if you fail. On the flip side Midori Ito missed her first Triple Axel, but she didn't fold, she just threw in and completed a second Triple Axel to get the Silver. When you do risky jumps, even by 2022 standards, you run the risk of losing a medal if you flub your program because you are more obsessed with jumps then presentation. That was Tonya's downfall, that she spent more time on jumps then the rest of her elements.
@@genednomyar3383 as others have pointed out, Scott Hamilton didn't really give her fair commentary on that performance and didn't really back up his opinions with facts. As dick button has pointed out many times in many long programs, double jumps are not actually errors if they are successfully completed. Tanya fell only on a fully rotated triple Axel, which Nancy didn't even attempt. She successfully landed a triple Lutz (which Nancy did not), a triple flip, a triple loop, a triple toe - double toe combination (compared to Nancy's triple toe - single toe), and a double salchow-step sequence-triple toe loop combination (compared to Nancy's fall on just a triple toe loop). She had five successful triple jumps compared to Nancy's 4. Tanya also had more difficult content. These are the bare facts. Go back and check them. IJS has its own issues, but it at least would have sorted this out appropriately and objectively nowadays, most likely. And others besides myself have noticed that Scott's commentary on tonya's performance was not accurate or objective, in hindsight.
@@OceanbornAngel as far as I can tell, Tanya did all the rest of the elements in her program just fine. She successfully landed five triples total, as did Midori and Christy. And all three fell on one triple jump. A jump only takes so much time. When it's done, it's done. This idea of somehow spending more time on triples is nonsense.
@@carterwilson4605 Yes but if she beat Nancy by only 1 place in the long, which seems right, she still doesn't beat her overall with the short program results, so it wouldn't matter. Personally I think Lu Chen should have beaten both in the long program, so that still wouldn't be someone coming between them. Bonaly definitely deserved to be behind both. I am not sure I can think of anyone who should have come between them to allow Tonya to pass Nancy overall. Maybe Karen Preston? That is the only possible I can really think of.
Kristi Yamachui a class act. Beautiful triple lutz triple toe.....wow.....Nancy....just NO artistry a very FLAT program. Happy Kristi won Gold.
Should have been 1.Kristi 2.Midori 3.Tonya 4. Chen Lu 5.Nancy Kerrigan 6. Surya Bonaly. 😅🤷🏻♂️
Tonya's got power in every movement that's why even her "unsuccessful" performances are impressive and outstanding while the best Kerrigan's performances look like lame
There's just something off about her personality. Too many instances of entitled behavior, poor sportsmanship. Especially criticizing and mocking Oksana Baiul for crying when she won the gold medal at Lillehammer.
Kerrigan didn't deserve the whacked knee job by Tonya, but it was hard for me to feel sorry for either of them.
Always the UK judge with the low marks. Always.
Nancy Kerrigan..compete..Olympics..skating.. prescription..Queen of France..the brothers Grimm..🧙♀️💤💤..🦇..bat girl!
She's always miserable after a performance. Crying, whiny, or angry.
A mediocre skater with minimal talent and a beautiful vera Wang costume. That's it. If she was wearing a plain costume she would not be considered at all. All she was was a pretty dress
Nancy didn’t deserve a medal at the worlds in 1992 -it was AWFUL!
This is horrible. Not a medal winning performance by any means. She got a medal bc of her beautiful dress . Her skating sucks. Tonya should have won the bronze
Boring
I can't recall if Nancy Kerrigan has ever skated a LP in her amateur career. A very inconsistent skater!
A very uninspired performance 🎭 IMHO.
I was never a Kristi Yamaguchi fan either.
I always thought Kerrigan was wooden, and emotionless in her performances. She doesn’t “feel” the music the way a skater needs to, to be a champion. And her personalty left much to be desired as well. To be honest, I was never a fan of her, or Harding. Harding’s broken lace shouldn’t have been a valid reason to allow her to try again. Every skater knows you have to keep your skates in condition to compete. And she didn’t. And like Kerrigan, she was sorely lacking in the personality category. And then there was the knee bashing incident. Personally, I don’t think either of them skated well enough to be on the Olympic podium.
But then who would you have placed ahead of Kerrigan if not Harding? Kerrigan also had an incredible SP. Chen was possible but was buried very low after the SP.
@@nicholasp1096 I hear you, it's too bad there wasn't a really good skater that year. But too, women's routines, and the way they skated then, were nothing like today. So I'm probably expecting too much. I just really didn't like Harding or Kerrigan. Not their skating, or their personalities.
@@trudyisaacs840 I dont watch from today so not sure but I dont think the judges were going to put Chen on that podium unless they had total meltdowns. I agree Kerrigans LP here was pretty bleh- I liked her 91 worlds performance better- but I cant see anyone else besides Harding realistically challenging. Bonalys skating was very messy
Hated Nancy's "robotic" choreography. Even if Tonya had beaten her, they would have taken her medal from her once she was implicated in the attack on Nancy - which we know now happened.
No they wouldn't have. They only took the title away that she "benefited" from after the attack.
I never liked her music selections.
This is the only one I liked.
Loved her gorgeous music 🎵🎶. As beautiful as she was!❤
If she was wearing some janky dress she would have never won a medal. If she was wearing Tonya's dress she would be nothing. All style no substance. Her beautiful Vera Wang costume was the the only reason she ever won anything
Not true. Nancy was a beautiful skater before Vera, but a HORRIBLE competitor! I remember seeing her at a competition and you could FEEL her fear. It was sad.
She had to work with a sports psychologist...
Most mediocre skater ever. Probably only famous because of Tonya. I cannot believe her skates got her medals at these competitions
Ugh, this outfit was SO elegant! She was so ahead of her time as far as fashion went, the other skaters had the puffy bangs, & just tacky looking outfits. I remember seeing this & at the time, being like wow-that dress was just at the time so different from anything I'd ever seen before. I don't know if it was the first time she wore Vera Wang, but it was the first of this style of costume she eventually became known for,with the illusion fabrics & the simple elegance. I personally think she influenced fashion in figure skating, I saw many outfits that emulated her style later down the road. So timeless!
I have to agree with you
Well she wasn't as naturally talented at skating as some of the others with puffy bangs at the time, so who cares about outfits really..
ITA.
I agree Nancy was the beaded dressed!
Yet she was on point with 90’s fashion trends using that scrunchie 😁
So many mistakes and she had the gall to be snobbish and not shake Midori Ito's hand during the medal presentation ceremony!
What do I say - things repeat themselves, a sore loser overall. She behaved even worse at the victory ceremony in Lillehammer, bitching against Oksana Baiul an trying to draw Lu Chen into her game.
But I think her problem is not that she does not like to lose, it's social graces (or rather the lack thereof) overall. She seems to function well when the result is what she calculated it to be, and not well when it is not, and she does not understand when she gets any flak for her misbehavior on-camera, which she sees as an instance of "the media being against her". Her responses to situations overall seem to be studied - and it also shows in her "robotic" skating style which people frequently comment on. She does not seem to know, on some level, which reactions and behaviors are inappropriate in a given situation - for instance she should not have made that comment about wearing her 1994 silver medal on the Disney parade at all, even when not knowing that the mic was on and she could be heard. It's a sponsor who did a lot of things for her and she should not bad-mouth them.
I always liked Tonya better for the mere fact that she was authentic and always presented herself exactly the way she was, and made a (justified) claim to be accepted on these terms. Nancy always made a studied effort to please and to cater to the lowest common denominator, but her responses and behaviors also show a lack of spontaneity, and therefore she seems inauthnetic to me. And I am disgusted at the way they used the fact of her disabled mother as a ploy to get pity points for her, even before she got whacked on the knee (which was perhaps the best thing that ever happened to her).
I just watched the ceremony, and I didn't see anyone being snobbish with anyone. All I saw were smiles from the three lovely ladies.
thank you for posting these videos, this was the first olympics I ever watched as a kid, and I am glad you have put all this effort into putting all these videos of past olympics up
Very lucky to get a medal here
A little too lucky
This wasn't as bad as I remember, but she's lucky she had such a beautiful short program to save a medal for her.
I was thinking the same thing!!!
Tonya was robbed of a bronze medal this Olympics. She missed the triple axel, but overall skated better than Nancy did.
She deserved to beat her in the long perhaps, but that doesnt mean overall. Nancy was 2nd in the short and arguably deserved 1st even. Tonya was 6th in the short which was about right since she blew her combo. I would have Tonya over Nancy in the long but only by 1 spot probably, which still wouldnt be enough, it would need to be atleast 2 . Kristi and Midori deservedly beat both in the long, and Lu should have beaten both in the long. I cant think who I would have in between them.
I agree'. She was a better skater with superior jumps and flow than Nancy. And Kerrigan's 'artistry' was stiff and looked robotic imo.
Margaret Tudor absolutely agree with you...👌
Chris Coyne Tonya robbed Nancy in 1994 of her ability to skate as she normally would. What’s you go watch “I, Tonya” and feel bad for Harding? 😏
Chris Coyne who cares she’s a criminal
Midori Itos free skate was very strong I can't believe she fell in the short program.
Midori did do a nice job, but she fell on her first triple axel in this program and doubled her triple lutz, and her double axel at the end was a bit wonky. But she landed 5 triples, including that all important second triple axel. Interesting that she and Tonya both fell on their triple axels in the short programs, and both fell on triple axels in the long. However, Midori had that second triple that she did complete, so good on her. Also, Midori's first triple looked great in the air, and there didn't really seem to be a reason for not landing it. I think it was just confidence. I think she had been badly shaken by her short program.
If this competition happened today, it would be controversial cus she got the bronze.
I wish we could have seen this program in '94 when she was at the top of her game. I liked her '94 free skate to the Neil Diamond orchestral medley (and definitely still believe she should have won that one) but this was artistically her most captivating program, and performed to the top of her ability as she did in '94, this would have been out of this world.
Gorgeous 🥰
Music from the motion picture soundtrack of "Born on the 4th of July" by John Williams.
not to slam Nancy, but i don't see any artistry in this skate. she was blessed with a beautifully proportioned body that looked smashing on the ice, and she sure dressed to kill, but other than that she had nothing else special.
At these Olympics, it looked like the Scotvolds tried to saddle Kerrigan with music that worked for the likes of Paul Wylie. But, Paul understood music better. Kerrigan went through the choreographed motions in expensive dresses. The spiral for an ending was inspired, but not "felt". It was just "taught". She was cold as a skater and as a personality, which is how Oksana Baiul handily defeated her 2 years later. Baiul's program was not outstanding, but she had a relationship with the music that Kerrigan could not understand.
ITA.
Very savvy opinion, and I agree. Nancy, b/c of her looks, was understood to be an "artist" which she really wasn't. What she really was was a wannabe hockey player, not a FS. B/C it was the '80s/'90s, she was deferred into FS, and b/c she was tall and conventionally pretty, she was just sort of understood as this FS goddess (Vera Wang helped). But she just wasn't interesting, IMO. She didn't LOVE it--she wasn't special, IMO. I classify skaters into two categories--those who are special (you want to watch them) and those who aren't. I never wanted to watch Nancy.
I’ve always questioned if Nancy truly liked the music she skated to. I had no problem with this music or her Beauty and the Beast. It wouldn’t have been my pick if I were a skater. Nancy claimed she can’t skate to music she doesn’t like, but her whole demeanor just looks like someone forced to skate to music they hate. I’m not a figure skater, but if I were that’s probably how I’d carry myself if I hated my music. It’s hard for me to explain exactly what I mean & my impression.
Beautiful presence on the ice! Such an elegant skater.
Elegant? Sorry no. She looked stiff and forced. Her beauty saved her.
Gorgeous, elegant Vera Wang white Jersey, champagne sequin dress wearing badass boss bish 🎉
Again she was given marks that were undeserving. This performance just wasn't good enough and she knows it. So lucky she got a medal here.
No where near the same level of artistry as Kristi Yamaguchi (nor Oksana Baiul's two years later). She looks stiff, almost robotic. Pretty to look at though so that helped her a lot imo.
Margaret Tudor her dresses were ahead of times as well. While Everyone else had those ugly shoulder pads from the 80s at the 1992 Winter Olympics still going strong.
I have always felt like she was skating with no feeling, but performing a cookie-cutter routine, that someone else choreographed, of course.
+Karn Powell She always seemed a little emotion-less to me, and I was a huge fan back in the day. She had a definitive skating style that I enjoyed. But she NEVER broke from that style, so yes, everything looked the same. I have to wonder if even she got bored with it.
CQG P. That’s exactly what I was thinking. I think that maybe she didn’t like her music in spite of her claims to the contrary. She doesn’t seem to have that connection to it that would help her pull off her choreography, if that makes sense?
I am going home and rest in my bed with my heart
I always found her amateur skating full of wonderful feeling, emotion, and great tension. And I always particularly loved this program. It was also wonderful to see her land that triple flip. Too bad about the problems with the second triple toe of the combination, and with the triple Lutz.
@@AuntStina purely subjective
That ending gave me shivers. Beautiful.
The spiral ending was a great choice. It was very "Paul Wylie" of her to do. Clearly, the Scotvolds knew how to cultivate drama occasionally.
@3Axel1996 Thank you for clearing this up. To me, Original Program and Free Skate (or Free Program) just sound like the same thing. Whereas Long Program and Short Program are obviously 2 different things.
Thanks again!
Two Olympic medals is nothing to sneeze at. I think Nancy's problems were 'stage fright' issues. She could obviously do the jumps and the other hard elements but she seemed to have problems doing it when it mattered under pressure. She should have worked more with a sports physiologist to overcome that. I also do not think that she was not ready for the limelight after Kristi Yamaguchi's retirement.
What was the first part of the music? It was really wonderful and I think seemed to elevate Nancy (wish she had done more of this)
@ADEAL416 in '94, that is, not '92. My original point was that if this program had been skated to the top of Kerrigan's ability as she did in '94, it would have beaten her '94 program in the overall quality of the program and captivation of the artistry.
I second that!!
Her dress is only reason she won bronze
I'm confused about the wording. They skate the free skate and the original program? Not the short and the long program?
I dont agree with that assumption. I thought the music choice highlighted the tension of the jumps and showed off her strong line and command of the ice. She could have won had she skated a clean program. Kristie had unspectacular technical marks
Yeah sure but as if she would skate clean with 7 triples. Her skate of a life at the 94 Olympics had only 5 triples, unable to even do all 6 she had planned. And that was when she was training her programs completely in practice which she wasn't ever doing in 92.
@victoriaindigo It's a silly thing, but the ISU issues out rule changes at their annual council meetings in May. Sometimes, it includes changing the name of the Short Program and Long Program, which in this case was done after the 1988 season. I think after this season, it was voted back as the Short Program, but the Long Program remained the Free Skate or Free Program.
@ADEAL416 She should have won in 1994. Oksana Bauil's program was cute, but she had some mistakes in her program. Nancy Kerrigan made none. Bauil won the judges with her tears, but she should have come in second place. How I would have placed the women. Gold--Nancy Kerrigan, Silver --Chen Lu, Bronze--Oksana Bauil.
@acuison1 Since the late 1970s, many skaters have resorted to using music scores from movies as well as modern music. Brian Boitano won the 1988 Olympic Gold skating to music from the motion picture, "Napoleon." Chen Lu won her World Title in 1995 skating to music from "The Last Emperor." Elvis Stojko won his World Titles in 1994, 1995 and 1997 skating to music from movie soundtracks, as did Todd Eldredge in 1996, Aleksei Yagudin in 2002. Etc, etc, etc...
3Axel1996 the battle of the Brians and Elvis Stojko..they were great skating years.
Well it depends whether you consider a doubled triple flip to be a "mistake"--I guess it is if you know it was supposed to be a triple, but it doesn't blemish the program at all--it just means the program didn't include a completed triple flip. But Baiul's didn't either, because she two-footed hers, which means she does not get credit for having completed it. So Nancy had her in completed triples 5 to 3 and in triples in combination 3 to 0 even if you gave Baiul an edge on the second mark
@TheCopper05 The marks I would have given here would be as follows:
1. Kerrigan, 5.8, 5.9 (11.7)
2. Baiul, 5.6, 5.9 (11.5)
3. Chen, 5.7, 5.8 (11.5) tie for second broken by Baiul's artistic score
I like greenbeens
Lovely girls, N,
Who is this commentator? His enthusiasm is infectious and he really makes the skating come alive..
stevebbuk Scott Hamilton and Al Michaels. The enthusiastic one is Scott Hamilton.
you mean just as oksana baiul won the 94 olympics with a showtune medley?
The music was fine, her mistakes and Midori's triple axel are what played the role in the bronze medal
Wow, I didn't realize how close Kerrigan came to winning the Gold at 92 Olympics. With all the talk about Midori and Kristi, Kerrigan was 2nd entering the LP. But she popped two triples and her hand touched down on the last triple jump. She did complete five triples. She had a shot at the Gold, but her nerves took over. I'm not a fan of Kerrigan's skating, but did not realize how close she was to winning the Gold.
shihlin1 not really. She was within reach of gold theoretically, yes, but with Kristi being defending World Champion and in possession of the most difficult combination anyone did in that competition--triple Lutz/triple toe loop--Kristi would have had to have thoroughly collapsed AND Nancy would have had to hit everything to win the gold. She actually only completed four triples--flip, loop, Salchow, and toe loop, with no completed combinations. Kristi had five triples--two Lutzes, two toe loops (including the triple Lutz/triple toe), and a flip. No contest.
@@ADEAL918 Yes and people saying she could win if she did all 7 triples, well she never did more than 5 in a program her whole career, her skate of a life in Lillehammer was only 5 triples made, so that was never going to happen. It is pure fantasy.
She looks like everything is so hard and she's mentally struggling like she's just trying to get through it.
Actually (though he may have also known Baiul's grandfather, but I've never heard that part) the controversy had to do with the fact that Ukrainian judge Alfred Korytek was the father of Stanislav Korytek, Baiul's former coach, and the coach who had taken Baiul in for a time after her mother died. But in all honesty, you concede the first place ordinal from every contender's home country judge in this case. I focus more on the Czech judge who ridiculously gave Baiul a 5.9 on the first mark
"The disappointment is obvious".
And to think, a year later, it would be even worse.
This has to be the worst bronze medal-winning skate in history. Heck, this entire Olympics has to be the worst ladies' event in history. Not a single clean performance from anyone.
lflagr Lu Chen was close
Midori Ito had pushed the sport so far so quickly that everybody was trying to play catch up and attempting things they couldn't do. That wasn't the case with Yamaguchi. She had a concentration lapse in her long but the first two minutes were about as perfect as skating can be. Her one problem jump was the salchow, which she probably just should have left out and added an extra flip in combination. Besides Ito and Yamaguchi who were capable of clean skates, everybody else was a bit of a mess.
Midori barely missed her 1st triple axel which only Tonya could attempt (and crash landed on). But this ladies event is forever remembered as the 1st time a lady completed a triple axel jump at the Olympics which Midori incredibly did on her next attempt at 3 minutes and 10 seconds of her 4 minute program, an incredible feat. So incredible that the Olympic Channel honored it in video as one of its impossible moments at the Olympic Games. Look at the excitement Mirai Nagasu created this year (2018) at the Olympics by becoming the 3rd woman and 1st american to execute a triple axel at the Olympics. Compare the 1992 Albertville ladies LP to the 1988 Calgary Ladies LP. Other than Midori's 1998 Calgary LP, a world of difference in difficulty. Midori started "the birth of a new age in figure skating" (Scott Hamilton quote) and as Jonathan Wallach says in the previous paragraph, everybody was trying to play catch up. Hence the lack of clean performances.
@Dolan Dark's child Tonya did fall to the ice on both 3A she attempted (OP and LP) at the Albertville Olympics. Crash landed may have been a bit harsh. Tonya did land a 3A in practice at Albertville (there is a video of it on youtube). From what I remember, Tonya always had a forward tilt on her 3A attempts making it difficult for her to land them. She only landed them in competition in 1991. Everyone was trying to play catchup to Midori. Midori landed the 1st official 3A at the NHK trophy in Japan in December 1988. Tonya competed against Midori in the 1990 NHK, saw Midori do a 3A in practice and was floored by it. That was the impetus Tonya needed to learn the 3A and land it in February 1991 at US Nationals, more that 2 years after Midori 1st landed it. Kristi was attempting 3As in practice in 1991 to try and compete with Midori. At the 1991 Lalique tourney (won by Midori) Scott Hamilton said during Midori's technical marks awarding, "its hard to compare any skater to Midori, she has revolutionized ladies figure skating". And I do agree with you about Kristi. I saw a comment from Dorothy Hamill comparing Midori and Kristi at Albertville: "Kristie is musical and graceful but Ito is something special. When Midori skates I am on the edge of my seat."
@Dolan Dark's child i agree with you. i liked Tonya. Considering her upbringing what she did was remarkable. Her 1991 year was terrific, beating Kristi at Nationals and Skate America. I know US figure skating did not like her because she was not the feminine mold they were looking for like Kristi and Nancy. But she helped to push US figure skating forward by landing her 3A at Nationals. It is too bad she made bad decisions. She did not compete at the 1991 lalique tourney the last big competition before the olympics. All the top skaters were there. She arrived late at Albertville and finished 4th missing the medals which upset her. She fired Dody and Barbara (her choreographer) as a result. Then what followed was a disaster with the Nancy incident and the 94 olympics. Two things would have helped Tonya's life and career in my opinion. first, she should have moved in with her coach like Kristi did in Edmonton to train for 1992 and Midori did when her parents divorced at her age 10. second Tonya should have turned pro like Kristi and Midori did after the 1992 olympics. Pro skating was popular and Tonya could have made good money at it.
Sometimes it looked as if she just moved thru the choreography rather effortlessly not considering the importance. She is wonderful to watch even now but it’s as if once she messed up she couldn’t quite get her mojo back.
A very classy,beautiful, under rated skater..she has power and great speed..nothing wrong with her music..it was a very original performance..
Her choreography was horrendous.
To each his own. Loved the music and choreography. Loved Mary Scotvold's choreography for Paul and Nancy.
This is what an ice princess looks like. I haven't seen any USA girls look this polishes until Gracie Gold came along.
“ beautiful flow and speed” my ass
LMFAO 😂
@TheCopper05 I just wasn't a big Baiul fan. I think she got very luck with that peformance in 1994. I still would have given the silver to Chen Lu of China.
Why does Germany 🇩🇪 have such a history of lower judge marks??!
It really doesn't matter how the judge scored at that time, the actual placement is what matters. If the German judge was consistent then it would not be a problem. Unfortunately, there was a huge history of bias judging between eastern anc western bloc countries. Figure skating should have been judged like diving, throw out the high and low scores.
is she the sasha cohen of her generation in terms of not skatin clean?? that sparrow at the end is almost like sasha, and she held it even longer
Spiral, not sparrow.
she is, especially in terms of attitude
She held it longer assisted by her hand. Sasha Cohen did her spirals without having to hold her leg up with her hand.
Poor thing. Her choreography is absolutely painful to watch and her arm movements at times convulsively laughable. Also she telegraphs on her face the next difficult jump. It completely shatters the flow of the program. Granted her extension on the spirals is lovely but only better than her rivals because of her lanky build. The commentators seem to like her but her program is so very uncomfortable to endure.
+Timothy Griffith Dude, whatever. I'm not sure what you were watching.
Yeah, soaring high like an eagle with a broken wing...
Yeah, I always thought Scott and other commentators exaggerated how artistically superior she was.
I agree. And the commentators are American so of course their not commenting on her 'artistry'.
It may seem dated; but, at the time, Nancy's skating was different and interesting. This program appears to be the peak of her artistic development.
Her spins are so bad. Her arms and movements are sloppy and technique mediocre. Tonya out skated her everytime
Another one child who write he's bad opinion without anyone asking.... Nancy have 2 Olympic medals, not Tonya ... How the heck are you thinking Tonya is better? Tonya was very good in some performances ,and Nancy was better in other performances from here ... We can't say who's better because of one performance!
She’s not a spinner. She’s a dancer so her artistry is expressed differently on the ice. The other thing to note Tonya’s more an athlete and is built to do jumps because she’s muscular. But Tonya’s had asthma so it complicated things for her.
@@scarletfairy6161 Because it's not always the better skater who wins the medal - there are "political" decisions involved in who will get the medal too, including based on the question whether the skater has the general favor of the judges or not. I heard for instance that Tonya went for the triple axle just to be noticed by the figure skating establishment at all, but it helped her little because they did not like her because she did not come from the wholesome background that they expected. Which is ironic because her story SHOULD have embodied the values of the American Dream more - the "trailer trash" girl who had succeeded in working herself up from nothing. Nancy wasn't from that rich a background either, but she had a lot of things just thrown into her lap while Tonya hadn't.
@@christianealshut1123 i like both 2 anyway
Tonya fans are so rabid in their devotion that they seem blind to the fact (or conveniently forget) that she rarely, if ever, skated a clean program. A strong athlete, yes, but extremely inconsistent.
@ADEAL416 Thanks for reminding me of the fact, that Baiul did two foot her triple flip. Either, the judges seen it, or just overlooked it. Maybe, these judges thought Kerrigan got to much press when she was hit in the knee, or
they just felt sorry for Bauil. Who knows? I still think Kerrigan should have won the gold, Chen Lu the silver, and
Baiul the Bronze. I just remembered, that the Ukrainian judge, knew Bauil's grandfather. How ironic with that.
If this program had been skated perfectly, she would have surely won the gold. Yamaguchi touched the ice on the triple loop and doubled her salchow, and Midori fell on her axel attempt. Maybe, Nancy wasn't prepared emotionally to handle that rare golden opportunity....
I think it was too soon in her career for her to think of herself as a winner. Honestly even in 93 when she went to worlds as the favorite she didnt seem to be able to conceive herself as the winner. The 94 season is the first and only time she seemed to believe in herself as a winner, and the judges robbed her anyway.
That's a big "if." I don't think she ever skated a long program perfectly in her entire career...
With her stiff arms and complete lack of artistry, I'm glad Kerrigan never got gold.
No one 'robbed' her. The skater with the better artistic package won.
Tress Braga midori also added the triple last min towards the end and Landed. Next?
She's was too controlled & cautious, she really lacked passion.
This boring horse always took the piss of me. Boring...
It is as exciting as watching how paint dries. Nancy was so boring.
If she only could have had that triple flip in 94!
Yes she would win in 94 if she just did her triple flip here with the rest of the program.
So boring and slow. Figure skating really improved from this time.
Sure, if you like skaters going against the music rather than to it, and doing nothing with their arms but windmilling them around. There's no time to breathe these days. Annoying and over-filled...and repetitive.
+kamwrites
I dislike skaters flailing with their arms aimlessly too. I just think that this program is an utter bore. She deserved gold though over Baiul.
Did she think she could actually win with that type of music? Really? How many skaters do you know who have won with music that's not classical? Probably less than a handful. Your choice of music plays as much role in to your overall performance as much as your jumps.
Anjong She didn’t like classical music. The judges were probably ok with this type, but didn’t care for a lot of Tonya Harding’s music, especially when she skated to ZZ Top. The judges are way behind the times when it comes to music, but seem ok with broadway musicals & symphonic movie soundtracks.
How did this win a bronze medal?
Mostly her extremely strong short which had her 2nd. The only better longs besides Kristi and Midori were by Tonya Harding and Lu Chen who were only 6th and 11th in the short, too far to catch up. And I guess maybe Karen Preston who was 12th in the short.
by placing higher than the person who came in 4th.
her music choice and the choreography are silly
Agree about the choreography. At the time, I thought she was great, but now, she seems shaky.
This sucks. Tonya was robbed of a bronze. Her scores should have been higher to put her over Nancy. Tonya's technical Mark's should have been way higher than Nancy.
Tonya could not pass Nancy even beating her in the long. She was 6th in the short (where she fell) to Nancy's 2nd, so she needed atleast 1 other person to finish above Nancy but behind her in the long to come ahead. Just beating Nancy in the long alone would not do it.
@@itsallgoodman1244 Yes. The skating order was a big part of the short program results though. Not just Ito and Harding, but Sato was hurt by going first, Hubert and Bonaly were helped by going almost at the end in their home country, Chen was hurt by going early even with her mistake. The draw played a big factor in the results.
The one defense I could see to putting Ito over Harding in the short is Harding's flying short was pretty weak in this program, she didn't get down to a proper sit position at all. Which is strange as she usually does. Ito's was far better. Some say doing the 2nd jump in the combo but I think that was really almost nothing back then. It was a .5 deduction either way, there is a reason almost no skaters bothered throwing the 2nd jump after falling.