THE FLANNAN ISLES VANISHING: TAKEN BY THE SEA | Detective Ridiculous
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The first record that something was abnormal on the Flannan Isles was on 15 December 1900 when the steamer Archtor, on a passage from Philadelphia to Leith, noted in its log that the light was not operational in poor weather conditions. When the ship docked in Leith on 18 December 1900, the sighting was passed on to the Northern Lighthouse Board. The relief vessel, the lighthouse tender ''Hesperus'', was unable to sail from Breasclete, Lewis, as planned on 20 December due to adverse weather; it did not reach the island until noon on 26 December.
On arrival, the crew of the Hesperus and the relief keeper found that the flagstaff had no flag, none of the usual provision boxes had been left on the landing stage for re-stocking, and more ominously, none of the lighthouse keepers were there to welcome them ashore. Jim Harvie, the captain of Hesperus, attempted to reach them by blowing the ship's whistle and firing a flare, but was unsuccessful.
A boat was launched and Joseph Moore, the relief keeper, was put ashore alone. He found the entrance gate to the compound and the main door both closed, the beds unmade, and the clock unwound. Returning to the landing stage with this grim news, he then went back up to the lighthouse with Hesperus's second-mate and a seaman. A further search revealed that the lamps had been cleaned and refilled. A set of oilskins was found, suggesting that one of the keepers had left the lighthouse without them. There was no sign of any of the keepers, neither inside the lighthouse nor anywhere on the island.
Scotland based seabird biologist here! It is super easy to be blown off the cliffs from extreme wind up here. Rain makes the hard rock very, very slippy, and the wind has (literally) lifted me off the ground a little on the Isle of Noss, Shetland. If the literal soil is blown away, a sudden shift in the wind alone might have been enough to blow one or all of them offshore.
Nah it was totally a pagan cult god out in these obscure islands who was hungry for a light(house) snack.
I'm from the Upper Midwest and there are loads of times when I'm afraid my coat'll catch the wind and sweep me up like a kite! There was one time as a kid when I got out of the car at school and started sliding down the icy sidewalk. Pretty sure I could get a windsurfing board and ride it on the cornfields.
You know, theres a lot of people I don't expect to see watch AdRic, seabird biologist is definitely one of them
And don't forget about what they're wearing, literally a jumpsuit, coat saturated with grease and oil
@@kaxdra haha I'm glad you're surprised! I mean most conservationists/ecologists I know are massive nerds - 40k, lotr and sci fi in general are super popular. I have listened to this podcast on top of mountains, climbing down sea cliffs (very like the ones on the island this podcast is on - look up the Buller's of Buchan if you want scale perspective), and on offshore seabird surveys in the deepest parts of the North Sea! Internet is pretty good on UK science vessels so I just put my headphones on for warmth whilst surveying.
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK goes missing after failing to guess the quote, Bricky decides that enough is enough and grows his forehead to an ungodly length to become the new lighthouse of Flannan isles and Shy goes insane at the sight of the new Brickhouse and jumps into the ocean to live among the octopus for some non-sus reasons
To be fair for Shy, seeing a human turned Lighthouse will always never be a pretty sight.
This meme needs to die, already.
@@MatConlon As long as people find it funny, it is going nowhere. I'm not the one making them like it
Seeing a massive lovecraft Bricky would be a sight, the light his forehead projects causes madness.
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I love the normal show, but I gotta say, Detective Ridiculous has become my favorite. DK is doing a great job. 👍
Am always looking forward to a new Detective Ridiculous.
Especially the Beast of Geavuodan (I dont know how it was spelled exactly but you get what I'm saying) was a masterpiece of a video in my opinion.
@@__-tp4tm yes. The subject material was awesome as well
Honestly, I think two of them blown over the cliff makes a lot of sense. The one still in the lighthouse might've heard them yell as they went over and rushed out to help, meeting the same fate. Neatly explains the oilskin left in the lighthouse and we know there were powerful winds blowing over the island. The storm didn't get noted in the log book because they didn't have a chance to.
As for their bodies never washing ashore, they probably got eaten.
Yeah, those wool uniforms would get soaked quickly and the oilskins would be heavy, making it very difficult to stay afloat, especially in rough and choppy waters like the ones you would get in the North Atlantic during a storm. They most likely got blown off by the winds and then drowned, and the bodies were carried away by the currents and stripped to the bone by carrion and bottom feeders.
You guys should have Wendigoon as a guest for an episode.
Maybe MrBallen
Ohhhhh great idea! Goon would go great with these guys. :)
Yes
Wendigoon will be an absolutely perfect guest, for this podcast
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me: "I don't have to say nothin'"
Detective Ridiculous: "DAMN YE!!!"
There is a game called No One lives Under the Lighthouse and I assume that this game is based on this real life story which is never really good to think about when you are working in a place isolated from society.
I was hoping someone would mention that game!
@@ebros5758 Same! Mandalore Gaming did a great review of it.
@@Vanq22114 Don't forget Pastra's Review too. Absolutely hilarious.
YEAH! That is exactly what I was thinking about when I saw the thumbnail.
Sorry but the way you were saying Oban was killing me haha. Also, about heavy stuff/people getting thrown about by heavy seas and high winds, do not underestimate the sea. There's an island off the coast where I live with a wreck on it from the 1930's. The ship weighed 1700 tons, and the remnants of the wreckage are about 80 metres up the side of the island, way above where the water is at high-tide.
My grandfather's beachhouse, probably 80 to 100 thousand pounds got yeeted by a "once in a century" storm. The sea fucks, respect it.
Would love to see a potential recreation of the wind doing that. The wind picking up and tossing a *ship*?!
Also like, we see this on land. Tornados don't play. Makes sense the ocean would be worse.
@@aria5614 Exactly. Out on the open seas, there's nothing to break or slow down the winds, so they just keep picking up steam until it SLAMS into something.
Also keep in mind the area this lightouse is built on is mostly rock, which with the heavy rain and constant battering from the sea would get very very slippery and smooth. You'd have no grip while being battered by winds that could literally knock you into the air or down to the ground. Getting blown off the side would be a very easy thing to happen.
12:13 Little known fact, James Ducat was a weregull. When he transformed under the full moon they called him Gull Ducat.
I think the last thing I expected to find was a Voyager reference in these comments 😂
I heard that name and my first thought before I was even aware of it:
“That’s the guy from Star Trek!”
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Deep Space Nine, but it's the right setting at least.
A tornado or violent straight line wind could account for the damage to the metal and concrete and as this is the N. Atlantic, I am not surprised as storms and rogue waves are pretty common in the area during the winter months.
Yeah. And the damage can be *incredibly* precise. I live in the Upper Midwest and woke up one day to this not-quite-five-foot-wide line cut through a couple blocks just south of my parents' house. It seriously looked like a giant finger dragged through the thankfully vacant lots and not-open-24-7 car dealership.
I got a mystery location the Nahanni Valley in Canada, aka the valley of the headless men. There are a lot of weird tales about that valley. Cryptids, strange murders, disappearances, tales of prehistoric animals chilling in the present day
With a name like that, I would think so!
@@brigidtheirish my favorite story I heard was the local tribe called the Diné tell they were to go to war with the Nahanni, the tribe in that valley, but when they got to their village the place was empty, the fires still smoldered and their stuff was there but no people.
The name of the local tribe set up a red flag for me as I know another tribe calls themselves Diné but they live in Arizona and most outsiders call the Navajo, but the languages are so similar even thousands of years later a Navajo and Dine can talk to each other
@@Jadguy24 Creepy.
Navajo and Diné, huh? Kinda like Denmark, Sweden, and Norway.
@@Jadguy24 I think I know why. Thanks to an ancient migration, the Athabascan language family found its way to the Southwest. In most dialects of Athabascan, "Dine" is the word for "people". Given that the names of many Native American groups is their word for "people", I can see how they could share a name.
That conclusion was hilarious. I think there was some confusion towards the end because it's like, the least puzzling disappearance ever.
Imo it's pretty clear cut
A storm hit, one or 2 of them went out to try and tie down stuff (maybe fix the crane down) strong winds and storm seas splash up onto the rocks (never underestimate how high waves can get, 100ft on a tiny rock in tbe middle of nowhere, in a high storm the waves are hitting the top there)
When they call for help or don't come back their friend goes out to save them leaving his coat inside in the hurry and also gets caught in the storm
As for "it never happened before" but it probably did, just not recorded, you mention yourself how people avoided the island, they never stayed overnight there almost certainly because it was dangerous, if you stayed overnight you don't know what weather will hit tomorrow, you might be stranded their and die in the storm, so people avoided going except for short single day stints in clear weather, almost certainly people had died before on that island
And for not happening since, anyone who went on to work there likely got told 3 dudes died in a storm here, batten down the hatches and be VERY careful, so future crews WOULD be much more careful in stormy weather
They did say there is a damn good chance it was a rogue wave. Now that we know these happen a hell of a lot more than we ever thought, we have documented some rogue waves that make some tsunami's look like baby waves.
Also, rogue waves do happen a lot. The issue is, science stated it wasn't possible and never really looked into them. They would get reports from ships stating a huge wave out of no where and then that ship sinking. Other ships seeing the rogue wave but survived. If you think of all the ships that have gone missing, then you realize that rogue waves are common. With satellites now being used to actually track rogue waves, scientists are baffled on how the hell they exist. So some ignorance kind of kept that stuff unknown, I can't remember the biggest one recorded, but I know it was over 100 feet.
So some think that in the storm the guy in the lighthouse noticed the light hitting something dark, something blocking out the sky, he opened the door to yell out, not knowing what it was, and they couldn't hear him. So he tried to run down quick, ignoring his wet suit, to try and get the other two inside, and the wave hit. That kind of force can move a couple ton rock, screw up all the metal, AND if the rogue wave hit the other side of the island, than the crane would be protected by the void left after the wave hits the island at speed. I think it's the best theory so far.
Well, Wind is just as likely a suspect.
Even winds as high as 60-70 mph can knock people over.
There was an accident when the lighthouse was being built, a man did on the small railway, crashed, when a rope snapped. Thanks for this, I don't think we will ever know what actually happened to these men.
These are always so interesting to think about what could have happened, but i think they fell in the ocean trying to help each other do.... something.
"Hey guys, I'm gonna go out for a swim, okay?"
"Wait, what??"
Bricky, you've never been out to sea; had yeah? There is the light from the stars and the moon; when it's out to see. The only time it would be quite dark is if it's overcast or a new moon; or moonless.
Bricky should go sailing. Even on a cruise ship in a relatively calm day, you can lean into wind into a position, that looks totally impossible. In harder winds, it is easy to fall over, when a sudden change in wind occurs and I haven't even been in any real monster winds. Tornados are obviously on the extreme scale, but no need to go anywhere near that, when wind can be fatal.
The music this episode was spot-on.
You should do an episode of mini stories that aren't big enough for their own full episode
The ending of the episode did get me to giggle. By no means did I laugh out loud, but I certainly did have a smile and a quiet chuckle.
That ending was gold
Maybe that one manly man guy didnt write about the storm cause "heh this aint even a storm" and them bam 2 of them stuck ask for help, third one comes and swoosh. Lightouse active workers: 0.
I didn’t think I would enjoy detective ridiculous, but I do, I very much do
The crane's tarp being ok but the iron rods being pulled out doesn't surprise me at all. Some years ago we had a tornado hit out house
Wrought iron deck table, lifted from one end and placed on top of my cars hood so gently there wasn't even a scratch.
Trampoline, a pile of tubes and fabric in the hedges 70 feet from its previous location.
Plastic little playhouse, totally untouched
Pines straw driven 1/4 inch into 2x4s
Neighbors pallet of solid bricks, scattered acros a 40ft long 25ft wide cone.
30 ft away Dozen plants in pretty plastic pots and 2 dozen empty nursery pots stacked like drink cups, totally untouched
Strong strorm winds can be weird.
My request for an episode; The Death Valley Germans. Not necessarily a super interesting case on its own from the summaries (though if you get into the conspiracies of the time on what happened it gets a bit better for the initial setup), but for the source: the blog/ personal website (older internet style) of the guy who cracked the cold case without any help from law enforcement, including the tale of exactly how he did it spread out over a few blog posts. It's on his site, otherhand. Read it with some creepy desert ambiance in the background, and it's an absolutely perfect tale for you, though it'd be a long episode I think. Unsolved mysteries, conspiracies, cold cases, a brave and almost obsessed man willing to go to extreme lengths, one of the most isolated places in the continental US, tragedy, and the almost certain resolution of the mystery from the words of the man who figured it out. He was even involved in some other similar stories he posts there, though none quite as compelling. Though one he spent a lot of time working on was recently solved by accident, and would also be good.
Learned this story from wendigoon and bricky's gonna love this becus he likes lighthouse the movie
Guess you can say this was a once in a lifetime opportunity
DK debating whether not a loch is a lake was hilarious to us. Loch means lake.
Yes the Flannan isles, some Ukrainian made a PS1 horror game bout this. (or inspired by it idk)
Also my personal theory:
When the other guys lost in the storm, MacAtrhur the guy who just lost some crates before the incident, thinking "shit, another accident happen who knows how much they're gonna charge this time" and decided to bail out after the weather is calm. (hence the last oil skin set)
God I love the detective ridiculous intro music
The most likly reason is the first 2 men were trying to secure something outside of the lighthouse in preparation for the storm but it came on them faster than expected. They got in trouble with thier heavy rain suits catching the wind and the 3rd man seeing this from his post in the tower ran out to help and he to came into trouble. The storm worsened and the rest is mystery.
In the case of the bodies never being recovered it is likely that they probably got eaten. There are sharks that live that far north such as the greenland shark or the classic great white, alongside fish or birds scavenging off them
Favorite outro so far lol
Literally got a bricky ad for moonbreaker on this video
I like these real life mysteries much more than the cryptid stuff
I'm taking this as 100% full confirmation of Lovecraftian "Deep Ones" and they came in the storm and dragged the men into the deep to eat them.
I’d love to see you guys do some warhammer fantasy and age of Sigmar stuff. I’ve been looking into it and there’s some awesome stuff.
You did such a better job at this than chilluminauti
My theory on this is that the crew did something dumb and paid the price a.k.a "Death by Misadventure".
That would explain why the company never lost an entire crew before and after.
Say, for example, the guy who was fined for losing equipment goes out to secure some stuff due to an oncoming storm.
Crane can't be used as it's covered over and the wind's too strong to operate it, so he carries the box up the cliff with the help of the second guy.
Once the box is at the top of the cliff, the third man exits the lighthouse to drag the box in, without his oilskin as he isn't intending to stay out long as he needs to be in the lighthouse and the two men go back down to check if there's another box.
They slip and go over the side from high up and the third man runs over to the edge to see what happened and either slips or is pushed by a strong gust over the edge too.
The Luke Skywalker island scenes were filmed at Malin Head, Ireland, Bricky
I don't get why people would add stuff to make a story "more interesting" cause the whole thing is already interesting
Oban! Best fish chips I have ever had!
They really thought, "Must've been the wind."
Our forefathers were NPCs
Tbf, wind can do a lot of damage.
75 mph winds can still cause lots of damage to homes.
I'd love to see an episode about the boy in the box as recently some new information on the case has been discovered. He has also been identified.
The Luke Skywalker island is Skellig Michael, off the south-west coast of Ireland, so several hundred miles from this island. There are almost literally hundreds of islands like this around the coast of the U.K. and Ireland.
Thanks to listening to the show in audio only, every time you say orchid eight, I thought you were saying "Ork a day."
godzilla came ashore. crashed around like the big animal it was, then sauntered back into the deep.
Brace yourself for Adeptus Mustachus
I love this case. It got me into true crime and unknown mysteries after hearing it from Lemmino.
God I love this spin off
Ghost Vikings with a Ghost Longboat got 'em all.
You guys should cover the capsizing of the Sobral Santos II. It capsized in 1981 near this one dock in the Amazon. 500 or more passengers went into the water, not even 200 survived.
You could cover the Villisca Axe Murders is a future episode
The most plausible explanation for me is a white squall. White squalls are a well documented weather phenomenon that happens out at sea, one minute everything's nice and bright and sunny, the next minute the sky turns black as a horrific storm seemingly materializes around you.
One guy was outside doing his normal routine of getting the empty crates stacked up and secured for when the ship comes by, when a white squall just washes over the island. The guy outside gets overwhelmed by the storm and shouts for help.The other 2 guys quickly throw their oil skins on and rush out to help him. That's when a really powerful gust, a water spout or a tornado plucks them up and flings them out to who knows where. The reason why no one found any bodies is because the ocean is a really big place, fish and other sea life would have nommed on their corpses. If anything would've washed ashore, it would have been so rotten and fish-eaten that it wouldn't have been recognizable as human remains.
Yep. An island in the North Atlantic is a lot like the Upper Midwest, but wetter, and the weather can change *fast* around here. The edges can be sharp, too. I remember one time when it was raining in the backyard and sunshine in the front.
Bodies don't always wash ashore. It's a tiny Island VERY FAR from the main coast of Scotland.
Netflix has a 2018 movie about this called The Vanishing
as the owner/operator of a small "barge"/fishing vessel. deliveries to places like this happen when the weather and tide permit. if its at a high in the middle of the night, so be it, pray you nav home safe.
I think they underestimate just how strong Wind can be.
I once witnessed Wind strong enough, that I was able to lean against it, as if it was a wall.
I live way Inland, literally Miles/Kilometers away from any and all sea shores, within the Village, which is in a relativelly heavily forested area, so there were houses around me that would break the Wind. And despite all that, the Wind was that strong.
Now think how strong Wind could get out on the ocean, where for Miles there is nothing to lessen the brunt of its force, not even to think about a storm.
That sounds like a tornado to me
Fantastic work y’all! Though I am yet again going to request the Battle of Ape Canyon/Mountain for a DicRik episode! That or, coving a few of the Notorious Missing 4-1-1 Cases in national Parks!
I was hoping when you said movie inspiration, you'd mention Cold Skin.
'Mór' actually means big. So Eilean Mór mean big island. Eilean and Innis both mean island.
So.... I 100% believe a Rogue Wave hit the Lighthouse.
Rogue Waves have been recorded as getting as high as 95 ft tall, but usually get around 82 ft tall.
As a Midwesterner, we are currently -8 American temperature it be chilly they need them jackets bro. Or it is 100 no in-between.
In the morning you're cursing the ice on your windshield. By noon you're daydreaming about it.
Fun fact, they have seen 100 foot rogue waves in the north sea so this isnt far away from that
With an oilskin on top of all the other clothes, a body could very easily sink to the bottom of the ocean. Oilskins are only waterproof from the outside and all the other clothes, being made of wool and cotton primarily, would get soaked quickly and add extra weight to the body. Having all that coupled with a rough sea and heavy winds during a storm, and I can easily see someone being blown off the cliff, falling into the sea, and drowning due to the weight and poor weather, at which point the body would go under and the necrophages would make sure nothing but strips of clothing would make it to the surface.
12:39 im trying to get the one on the right’s mustache, otherwise im getting him in the middle
If you're alright with more cryptids, could you do the Pend Oreille Paddler? (It's pronounced pond o-ray). It's a local cryptid besides our version of bigfoot. It was most likely just the US submarine base there but there were times where people got dragged into the water and didn't come back up I'm pretty sure.
DK is a Steampunker!
Yao aint this ancestor crib from darkest dungeon!? XD
Some meteorological events take a while to build up, so it could have been a giant storm that has been brewing for a while and crashed up in the lighthouse, full of enough energy to yank shiz around, and blown the men off the cliffs, from such a height that landing in the water or on the cliffs is instant death. Their bodies get flushed into the sea, where rocks and scavengers make quick work of them, leaving the stuff like the clock to wind down
Due to timing, and current altering things like global warming, another storm has either not had the chance to form, has diverted to hit some other place, or has only ever formed with enough energy to do minimal damage, so it technically hasn't happened again
I love it. Though it is another DR which handles a mistery that was a Chilluminati Podcast. DK can we see your sources? ;D
terrifying
I would love to see you guys to an episode on the golden eagle. Known as the most haunted car in america.
I need more posters *Exclamation point*
Edit: also more detective ridiculous...
The island was also hit & washed over by massive waves, that's what moved the Boulder & uprooted the tracks
FUCKING LOVE YOUR INTRO MUSIC!!! Gives me serious x-file vibes!
Y’all should do a collab with wendigoon
Rogue waves aren't waves that top 100 feet.
The term is applied to waves that are significantly higher than the surrounding waves, typically at least 3 times higher.
The first Rogue Wave scientists had to agree wasn't just sailors tales was 85 feet, for instance.
A 15 foot wave can be classified as a rogue wave if the other waves are 5 feet tall.
Clearly it's Moth-Mommmy.
to mention the bodies washing ashore, those waters are deep and cold. Its thought that the Greenland shark (scavenger species) has its range there. majority of northern scotland is thought to be fair game for this shark and scary enough, the carcass of this shark washed ashore in England to further show the range of this animal.
I know it is quite the grim question to ask, but if the men were blown out to sea by a rogue wave, how were their bodies not found? Does a corpse float for a certain time before it disappears, or would some marine life have devoured them once they drifted further from the storm?
They sink after some time. Bit weird they didn't wash up to shore some of them atleast but might be the hard currents there that took them the other way.
They would eventually sink. Most likely, something or several somethings ate them.
Moth Girl?
Moth Woman?
You mean Moth Mommy.
i have been working as a security guard for a few years now and i can assure you, security log books is not a very reliable source for details... 😅
Bricky being shocked that the journalists lied about the logs is kinda funny considering RUclipsr’s today who have also covered this story so the same thing. This is the first time I’m finding out those logs were faked, because other RUclipsrs who covered this don’t tell that either. People still as horrid today.
I'd graze my sheep there because there would be no predators. I could do crossword puzzles or whatever.
No predators not counting the sea, of course. The ocean can never be satiated.
@@pretzelbomb6105 ☠Dead sheep tell no tales ☠
I'm pretty sure theres a horror game about this, called iirc "theres nothing under the lighthouse" based on those pictures it looks like it's based on it what with the rail tracks
I can't believe the moive wasn't based ob this story
I'm guessing a tornado of sorts localized damage and could develop from the storms and move a large stone
You don't need a tornado.
Plenty of storms can produce tornado strength winds without producing a tornado.
One guess I can think of is a Derecho, which can bring winds as high as 75 mph on a broad front, and 120 mph gusts in areas.
Disappointed at the lack of Trek jokes with Dukat
In addition to this event occurring before the founding of OSHA, it would not have jurisdiction over Scotland.
I like to think it happened like that movie where the water people attack the lighthouse
Hey is there a video about the months of shame, space wolves vs inquisition. I thought a video mentioned that, or I'm crazy.
The the sin city vibes.
so if no one is there i guess i'd be fine if i moved in
This seems like the Alpha legion
The Luke Skywalkwer Island is Skellig Michael off the South Coast of Ireland. Not this one but hey, I see the similarities
I just gotta know where the song for the Detective Ridiculous intro comes from...