How GOOD were Togetic & Togekiss ACTUALLY? - History of Togetic & Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- TOGETIC & TOGEKISS! The Happiness Pokemon! These pokemon may siphon pure joy from people but how good were they actually in competitive battling? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Togetic and Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon!
MISSING PLACEMENT: • Northern England Regio... Jamie Boyt Placed 1st at the Northern England Regionals with Togetic!
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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Whoops! We missed a major placement! Jamie Boyt placed 1st with Togetic in the Northern England Regionals! Major Apologies
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Togekiss was 3rd & 6th in VGC 2010 according to this i.redd.it/xhr08g2ka4sz.jpg
No hyper beam mention. The damage was ridiculous with choice specs (timid nature) or choice scarf (modest nature) which made him a nice revenge killer
False Swipe Gaming do slaking
This video made me Flinch.
ARTEM DORDZHIEV uh... no
focus blast with 70% accuracy:
*misses literally the entire time*
Iron head/air slash plus serene grace buff making it have a 60% to flinch:
*flinches you until you fall over and die*
Togepy sucks the joy of people.
*_WELL THAT EXPLAINS THE PARAFLINCH_*
Fulken You get more and more enraged as you get paraflinched everyturn thus you slowing losing joy...that's why Togekiss is always smiling...
Why are all of these cute fairies always the most annoying ones ?
@@Breakaway-ic5gj Dont talk about my guildmaster wigglytuff that way
@@Breakaway-ic5gj Togepi (Translation) Hey!
One thing: there was a unique Togepi that you could get in XD Gale of Darkness that was guaranteed to have Tri-Attack. When combined with a high SA Togekiss + Serene Grace and Silk Scarf, it's a pretty nasty combo even without the original STAB it got from the normal typing. Very rare nowadays, but totally legit.
I can't imagine it would have been something special for Gen 3 but Gen 4 would have made it awesome
I remember that! But I think I traded it for Elekid in the same game haha
As an update to this, I just found out that Togepi and Togetic can actually learn Tri Attack as a TR in Sword and Shield. It seems to be one of the standard awards for Max Raid Battles in a lot of places within the Wild Area, so this combo is significantly easier to get your hands on now, even if it doesn't have stab anymore.
@Galaspark Lol.. Might be some type of glitch right there.
Now, togepi/togetic/togekiss can learn Tri-Attack. Plus serene grace and silk scarf...
I barely even play competitively but for some reason I still love tuning into this show every week. It’s just super chill to listen to.
I've never played competitively, but this is pretty interesting to hear.
Ikr
I unironically listen to this for playthroughs
im glad im not the only one
Me too lol
"Well, Togetic f**king sucked." I laughed out loud.
I HATE YOU!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Guy Mathias chill pill
I AM NO HATER OF TOGETIC!
guys, calm down. i think there is a good solution why Togetic was bad. I love Togetic!
Guy Mathias bruh no one asked.
And in Sword and Shield, it's one of the best pokémon in the entire game.
Why though (i didn't play sword and shield)
Well only for vgc
@@jeonghan2493 Best support pokemon, can also be run offensively and very well rounded
Where to start..
For one, it gets access to follow me, great typing, insanely high flinch rates with Air slash and serene grace. Now gets access to super luck, which combined with a razor claw or scope lens means it has a 50% crit rate. It is an all around insane support pokemon, second to maybe dusclops. It can fend for itself very easily, and can shut down threats with air slash flinches.
@@whenthe8512 seriously,they need to nerf serene grace but not too much like how OU pokemon got nerf from broken to not very good
the real question here is, how good was to-gi-prweeeeeeeeeeee
I'm gonna toge-preeee dude!
The metronome god
Lol
Aww 😊
"Extremely lucky with Metronome" you mean "Self-Destruct every time it uses Metronome"?
The first time it used self destruct was like
Ash *almost loses*
Togepi: BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Sad purplecliffe noises*
@@eghiezenmarasigan7760 TOGEPI IS A BEAST..... *IMMEDIATELY EXPLODES*
@@sammyjammy8709 you dont get it do you?
Dude,I remember losing mine to a explosion from Metronome.
Never gonna use Metronome in a nuzlocke
Togekiss is now in top usage in VGC with Incineroar in SwSh. How the tides turn
Far more usage than Incineroar, it is probably the best pokemon in the format.
When you can be a sweeper, flincher, healer and a pure support all at once, and a good number of competitors of your job weren't invited to the party, you're bound to rule the scene pretty hard
@@darkness74185 dont forget the 50% of crit in every attack he do
How the turn tables
How the turn tables
Togekiss landing and sitting down feels like a cursed image
But it's so cuuuute
That was literally my favorite thing in gen 4. Using roost, it's so cute. 🥺
Togekiss was such an monster. Despite how it looks, it don't mean a thing when it's an threat in battle. Also, smart choice for given Togetic an new evolution.
I just want to say that this is my absolute favorite show! The format, the presentation, the history, and learning is really awesome. I often go back to Pokemon who I used before after watching an episode and make different sets with them. Great job with this show!
Ansemthewise59 great ! Ot's a joy to see that this show reminds us of the road of pokemons through the generatioms and how they used to function ! 😍😍😍😍😉
How GOOD were Gligar & Gliscor ACTUALLY?
Yert please god
And now Togekiss is reigning supreme in SwSh as one of the best Pokémon in the game.
As one who uses Choice Scarf Togekiss, I can confirm that.
@@mid7752 now he's in ru ... Along with really good pokemon like porygon...
What happened?
@@jambon2730 Crown Tundra power creep
Dracofish
Fishius rend
@@jambon2730 DLC
I am interested in seeing Weezing get the spotlight. An interesting Type Tank.
Vincent Sissom Been having lots of fun with him in PU recently. Great fun. Pair a max hp and defence weezing w a assault vest lanturn and you can take hits for days.
Love me using some Weezing.
I really thought the "How good are Ice types actually" was a good video so, could you possibly do another episode a specific type? If I had to pick one if would probably be ground but I really just think that any typing would be great as long as we get another type video.
Okay from competitive perspective over the gens... Rhydon, Dugtrio, Marowak, Gligar and scor, Swampert/Gastro, Garchomp, Excadrill, Mudsdale, everyones favourite lover and hater we all know Landorus. Finally last but not least theres always chance of Primal Groudon impaling tectonic blades all up in yo ass...
Honestly I want to see his Gen 1 explained Part 3 video before he does another type.
yea bring blunder back
fire or dragon type!
A water move on a Storm Drainer with Desolate Land?? Seriously, why have you got more likes when your pointing an obvious cliché except missing my points?
Clefable: I’m the most annoying Pokémon
Blissey: No I am
???: amateurs
Blissey: what’s that punk?
???: i said
Togekiss: AMATEURS
Zachary Mohammadi underrated comment
Jirachi: Allow me to introduce myself
It was painfully annoying in DPPHGSS OU if you didn't have an electric type like Zapdos or Jolteon and it was a special attacker that could power through Blissey with Nasty Plot and some luck (no Life Orb needed either).
the odds of escaping thunder wave and air slash is
(1/2)*(2/5)=1/5
that is 20%
Then Garchomp with king's rock / iron head lol He says hello lol
2:00 CRAP! Crobat looked horrific! And I thought Venusaur's blood shot eyes where bad!
Optimistic Charizard so much for optimistic...
Nah venusaur’s just high
Ever thought Venusaur might be allergic to itself?
Why did they thought it would be great to make a 3d hyperrealistic face for Crobat? Ffs
Jewgoo Or he smoked the good stuff
15th time's the charm.
Gligar and Gliscor pls
YES
YES
Poison Heal Gliscor is Awesome!!
I’m surprised that in Gen 4 and Gen 5 nobody tried using Tri Attack on Togekiss. If you don’t know in Pokémon XD there’s a Shadow Togepi that knows Tri Attack and you can transfer it to a GBA game after clearing the story.
If you then transferred it to Gen 4 you could evolve it into Togekiss. It would be Special Normal STAB that thanks to Serene grace would give a 40% chance to cause either burning, paralysis or freezing
Someone tried using this on Pokémon Showdown, and lemme tell you, 40% FREEZE is fucked up.
@@kylepua3469 did somebody see my comment?
Also it’s technically only 13.33% chance of freezing specifically it’s just a 40% chance of inflicting a status condition
How good was *Jolteon* actually? (Egg-cellent video, BTW.)
I don't get it
Didn't you notice all the egg puns in the video?
Who here remembers Gold's Togepi, Togebo, the savage alcoholic chain-smoking gambling bruise-knuckled Togepi that absolutely destroyed Silver's Tyranitar in Pokemon Adventures
Lol I remember
I still remember Togepi playing poker. Togepi mimicking Gold's personality was hilarious.
Ever watched Pokemon Golder, the video parody? I think that Gold and his psycho Togetic/Togekiss is based on Gold and Togebo from Pokemon Adventures.
Togekiss is by far my favorite pokemon; I went through the trouble to find a shiny togepi in generation 4 so I could have a togekiss with silver wind, nobody ever expects it.
Can you do "How good was Feraligatr ACTUALLY" next Please!? I've wanted this for so long!!
He sucked
You can't handle the truth.
I THINK there's already a video for that pokemon
「Jᴀʙᴇᴋᴇ49」
Sheer Force Life Orb boosted STAB Liquidation and Ice Punch for Grass, Dragon and Flying coverage with Dragon Dance and Earthquake for Electric and Steel coverage says otherwise. Unfortunately, Feraligatr will still take Life Orb damage with Earthquake.
KennyJoão Metaleiro
No there isn't. I haven't seen a Feraligatr video yet.
Let's get another How Good Was _____ Type ACTUALLY vid!
What?
A while ago they did a video on how good the ice type is. I'd like to see another type video
fire?
Dark is my favorite type
Well, time for a Sword and Shield update cause VGC smelling like togekiss
How good was Gligar and Gliscor? Also... Poor Togekiss... just doesn't get too many tools to play with. Cute though.
- Scarf Air Slash
- Leftovers Roost + Nasty Plot + 2 attacks
- Life Orb Nasty Plot
- Bulky Specs
- Thunder Wave + Air Slash
- Body Slam + Air Slash
- Heal Bell + Wish support
- Toxic stall
- Substitute + Nasty Plot
What are you saying? This is one of the most versatile Pokémon. Oh yeah, it also gets Defog these days.
Scipio Africanus it had defog in gen 6
Togekiss only problem is that it can't run everything. It's versatile as fuck.
How GOOD were Gligar and Gliscor ACTUALLY?
Ga lactic plz man we need this vid
I always thought it was funny that Togepi hatches from an egg to still be inside of one.
How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?
Harry good........alot
Good alot yeah that's correct English
I would actually like to see this.
Do this for April Fools day
There's not enough to talk about. It was only good with it's imposter ability. It's only as good as the pokemon it transforms into. Done.
How good was PINSIR actually
I know some people despise this Pokemon competitively because of Paraflinch, but as a playthrough Pokemon, it's one of the best they've ever made. I love the huggable fairy airplane
History of Pikachu in Competitive Super Smash Bros. (Preferably Fox, for he had quite a history in Smash. But let's keep up the Pokemon theme.)
Somalian Pirate History of Fox is quite easy: He was great in 64, he dominated Melee, he was okay in Brawl but Brawl was cancer anyway, and he’s great in 4.
As for Pikachu: Dominated 64, pretty good in Melee (and even got a clone), wasn’t all too spectacular in Brawl, and is pretty good in 4, but only has one real representative in Esam.
Weezing plz! Such an overlooked pokemon and was such a beast in the old days!
I love that Togetic got an evo! And a useful one at that. The typing change helped too.
Yeah alot of people hate Gen 4 because of additional evolutions and not liking their designs but honestly at least you can use these Pokémon. You can't convince me that Togetic or Murkrow didn't need an evolution.
@@Smart1529 right! Even the humanoid 1 stage pokes like Magmar and Electabuzz got a nice evolution.
Everyone be hating about how the evolutions be ugly but what if weavile didn't exist
@@Smart1529 Yeah. A lot of gen 2 mons were really trash, so an evolution to them were very necessary.
How good was Muk ACTUALLY
How good was S H E D I N J A actually? Please I'm begging you
Albert Batres That'll probably be the April Fool's day analysis.
Joe Boxer That'd actually be really funny I hope he does that
Albert Batres to be honest, pretty terrible actually, yeah Wonder guard is pretty good but...yeah the ONLY thing it has that is good is Wonder guard, the rest...is fucking awful, it's stats, it's movepool, and 90 base attack is pretty pathetic, faster and stronger ghost types outclassed it like Gengar (and it's Mega), Froslass and Mismagius, and ghost types that can take hits like Dusclops with Eviolite, Dusknoir, Cofagrigus and Mega Sableye, let's not forget that status, weather, and Pokemon with Mold breaker, Turbo blaze and Terra volt can destroy Shedinja, also entry hazards like Spikes, Toxic spikes and Stealth rock can kill it as well, a Pokemon holding a Toxic Orb, Flame Orb, Black sludge and Sticky barb can use Trick on Shedinja and kill it with those items, last but not least, if Shedinja is a physical attacker, it can KO itself if it hits Pokemon holding a Rocky helmet or if it has Rough skin or Iron barbs, with all that said, Shedinja is in NU
also annoying af when your pokemon does not have moves that can take care of it
I'm having ptsd from serene grace + paraflinch + missing my rockslide when I was finally able to move.
When you decide to roll with rockslide over stone edge for the better accuracy and still miss.
I can attest to the Serene Grace flinches. Swept so many teams with Nasty Plot. Parahax support too.
rip king
I'm not about to give up on GRASS TYPES!!! (Are we serious that Venusaur is still the only one ever covered?!) I insist on what I said last time! How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY?
Me too! Vileplume/Bellossom please!
And Breloom!
Please Please Do Marowak Next Episode
Matthew Mcmullen yes
Highest potential attack stat in the game? Yes please!
My reaction when I see a Togekiss now and my mon is slower: *"Oh no"*
Or weak to Fairy or Flying
Exeggutor, Exeggutor, Oddish. I'm honestly curious where Exeggutor turned from top line to....whatever it is now a days.
krspaceT1 PU I think
How GOOD were Ground Types ACTUALLY?
me at gen 4 battle net
"why do my friends hate to play agaisnt me?"
remember that i had a serene grace team with a stealth rock lead aerodactyl - special wall blissey with softboil, minimize, thunder bolt and ice beam, dunsparce with ancient power, headbutt and glare, iron head jirachi, air slash togekiss, and sky shaymin.......´
"oooooh right.... but i stopped using that and they still hated me"
remember the onslaught that my double team blizard brigthpowder glaceon threw on them under an abomasnow hail...
"damn i was a dick"
remember that i recently swept one of them with a level 1 prankster cottone when we did a remember...
"GOD IM STILL A DICK"
How good was Ninetales??????????
Jacob 070503
Good idea brother.
Bad until generation 5 when it got Drought, then mediocre in gen 6 with the weather nerf, then finally mediocre again in gen 7 with instant Hail and Aurora Veil with it resting in Borderline - too good for UnderUsed but not used enough to be considered OverUsed - currently.
it was decent in gen 1 because it had over 100 special and decent speed.
killu2later Still fire was not a good type in gen 1. And why play ninetails over the other fire types. All ninetails is a mediocre pokemon till gen 5 where it was only good for its ability and when that got nerf. At least it alolan form pretty good.
I hate how all the comment's are people asking for new mons and not how good ur vids are keep up the good work FSG!
I make it a point to say these vids are awesome, even the egg jokes on this one!
yeah literaly every coment is about the next video no1 cares to talk about the video they just watch
its our society always lookign for the future and forgeting the present
At first I did not like the Togepi line that much, but I started to grow fond of it after I learned to appreciate Fairy types.
How good was gligar and gliscor?
Diego Díaz yes
Diego Díaz Both are great. Done.
Diego Díaz yes!!!!!
How good was Gligar/gliscor please
I think this is like the 7th time I've asked for it (straight)
Luis Lopez yeesssss
I've been asking for 3 months, buddy.
This needs to be the next one goddammit
Havoc Bringer hell yeah!!!!
You forgot Eviolite Togetic, it’s actually really good.
It's actually really bad
It’s pretty bad,only decent defensively,but even in that it’s stats are so bad
Even if it's defensive stats are great,support moveset is lackluster
Goku Dragon it’s good I placed 14 in a tournament with it on my tesm
It's so amazing! It's what I used to beat the Super Double Battles in the ORAS Battle Maison
How good was *Metagross* my man? Been waiting for that vid my entire life.
How good was star platinum actually
Pretty good, to be honest.
Oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora!!!
it was great in ORAs
It was pretty good in the Gen 3 and Gen 4 meta, only matched by Za Warudo and Crazy Diamond. It was still pretty good in Gen 5 but, in Gen 6 he got nerfed having his impressive defense cut in half and is hard counter by anything faster than it.
In gen 6 he got nerfed and dropped to Dead
Togetic actually hasn’t been in the lowest tier in recent gens, largely because of the introduction of Eviolite. It’s movepool has expanded along with Togekiss’s, and it can also pull off a good Paraflinch set, especially with its good typing and Eviolite-boosted defenses. It’s speed also isn’t as much of a problem thanks to it’s increased bulk and the fact that it’s in a lower tier. As far as I can remember it’s in either RU or NU (though I think it’s NU because RU is full of walls who don’t care about air slash and clerics who can clear paralyzation as of now)
Togetic can't learn Air Slash though. Ability wise, it would probably get more out of Super Luck unless it ran Fire coverage or wanted Soft-Boiled.
@@gengarzilla1685 Two words. Tri Attack
Woah woah woah, you didn’t even talk about Togetic and eviolite! And how it would spam Tri Attack. Togetic is possibly one of the best eviolite users nowadays in PU.
SonOfUlti Yeah i completely forgot about that
Togetic is D tier in USUM PU viability rankings...
Togeti isn't that good, it loses to many stealth rockers and still has shit defense with Eviolite
I wouldn’t call it one of the best. Maybe because it’s slow and somewhat ok sp atk. The best eviolite user is probably chansey
In PU it is one of the best. Maybe not all around THE best, but it's still up there.
Togekiss: The little stealth bomber that could.
Lmao
So many egg puns. EGGstraordinary.
TheUKNutter I
Eggcellent
eggxactly
I stopped watching this channel after he tried to damage control my friends by stealing their content as his own. This was an interesting reminder of what I used to see though.
@@TheUKNutter nani
How good was gligar and Gliscor actually
Pretty please can we have a How good were gligar and gliscor actually ?!!
Stat wise: (If Togekiss were to receive a Mega Evolution)
Type: Fairy/Flying
HP: 85 >>> 85 (0)
Attack: 50 >>> 40 (-10)
Defense: 95 >>> 125 (+30)
Special Attack: 120 >>> 145 (+25)
Special Defense: 115 >>> 135 (+20)
Speed: 80 >>> 115 (+35)
Potential Abilities: Regenerator, Serene Grace, Magic Guard, Gale Wings, Pixilate, Fur Coat, Soul-Heart
@Nagaje Touilfand I mean, with regeneratior its just a good setup sweeper.
if it kept serene grace tho...
It would be already broken
How GOOD were BUG types actually?!?! I want this video because everybody thinks bug types are weak. BUT ARE THEY? Like this comment if you want the video to be a thing!!!
DankestOverlord The only good bug types are Heracross, Scizor, Forretress and Mega Beedril (probably there are a couple more, but these bugs what came to my head). Special mention goes to Ninjask due to it being on baton pass teams until Scolipede outclassed it as a Speed Passer.
MD3 Fan mega pinsir bro
MD3 Fan and feromossa
also genesect
including volcarona and buzzwole
I don't have a Pokemon suggestion.
Just wanted to wish people a good day
2:12 "Unfortunately for Togekiss" when we look at Togetic.
How good were Tangela and Tangrowth?
Antonio Morales Yes!
Antonio Morales yass! 😍😍😍😍😉
You're kidding me, i been asking this for months but when someone else does it blows up lol
Kokichi Ouma Same for me lol. Been asking for Gligar/Gliscor and that happened last vid lmao.
I ahve been asking for this for like 2 months lol
How good was gligar & gliscor ACTUALLY?
JT LDrago94 I second this
I appreciate all the hard working videos you guys do and enjoy them! Keep up the good work!!
Those egg puns *crack me up*
How GOOD was Blue-Eyes White Dragon ACTUALLY?
You mean Ultra Necrozma?
Not good my YGO brotha. BEWD is not de wey
DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame
Hav u seen da queen?
Watching this thing grow from such humble roots was actually quite incredible.
How good was Raichu? Please.
CloudySkies17695 Raichu should wait until he starts covering Gen 7 because Alolan Raichu is pretty important
CloudySkies17695 that's gonna be years until then...
Finally! A comment asking Raichu /w likes
STATMAGNET he wasn't talking to you
How good was Raichu: OUTCLASSED IN EVERY GEN. Your welcome.
Will we see another type analysis soon? The Ice video is my favourite of yours.
Yes!
I ran a surprise mixed Togekiss in Gen 5. Hustle ability, max attack and special attack with Extreme Speed, Brick Break, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball. Assisted by a Baton Passer with Hone Claws/Swords Dance.
How good were the Johto Starters ACTUALLY? Great videos, keep up the good work :D
Bad
Not Feraligatr nigga
how good was you actually?
Togepi is my favorite Pokémon still to this day. And so glad to see that he made a massive comeback in sword and shield and is one of the best in the game when evolved to Togekiss. You should update that
How good was Exeggutor ACTUALLY?
Yes! Finally! Thank you for so this mon!
you do tremendous work fsg. Please keep up the good work
Aggron! How good was Aggron ACTUALLY?
Clefable!!! How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY?
I've literally been preaching for this for 2 months!
Ditto1396 LOL Same
Your content has always been consistently solid, but this video was excellent! Felt very polished. Keep up the good work!
How good were the johto starters actually?
sparkly_donuts Bad. Every one of them is bad.
Andrei Valdez Feraligatr has Sheer Force with good stats, Typhlosion has good stats but lacks a good move set and we all know Meganium is terrible.
How good was Jolteon actually?
Togekiss is my favourite Pokémon. It's so cute and it's pretty great
How good was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?
victikirby15 yeah ! 😍😍😍😍😉
victikirby15 Good actually.
do gligar/gliscor next
"Joy Dust" does sound like a drug
How good was Pinsir actually
Sperry the god We had Heracross so let's do Pinsir
Yeah! Pinsir please!
Gen 1: No Bug STAB.
Gen 2: No Bug STAB.
Gen 3: No good Bug STAB. Fuck you, Weezing.
Gen 4: Yes! A good Bug STAB! Eat an Earthquake, Weezing!
Gen 5: Bug STAB isn't that good, really.
Gen 6: Screw, Bug STAB! Flying STAB FTW!
Because as we all know it's about STAB moves.
Puns are top notch in this one.😃
You could say they were eggcelent.
K.E.V. when aren't they good?
The EGGisode was great!
Abigail65656 SecretiveCrystalix Roblox Videos
When tf did playing Minecraft become an offensive thing? I don't understand either of your logic, it's just a game, not a cult or some shit
Oh the egg puns! Great vid, Togekiss is one cool (and cool looking) little mon!
He should do recap all the pokemon he's done when the Gen.7 meta has settle.
Can you do an episode on Forretress?
Jake Berango I BACK THIS UP
As do I
Same
But hasn't he been doing the same thing since like. gen 2? set up spikes/rocks and spin?
Wouldn't make for a great episode I don't think.
While that is true... in gen 5- today he does have a special Cutsap berry set...
Basically relies on exploding or spinning really quickly before dying
you didn't tell us Togekiss' base stats when you introduced it. but it's only a small thing, keep up with the great videos
"Joy dust."
*Immediately thinks of LISA: THE PAINFUL*
RPG
@@davidwang1637 oh that lisa the painful, thanks. I'd been wondering for 2 years
Gligar and Gliscor? The best poison heal Pokemon?
I remember I went months of playing rage quitters who met my Togekiss' paraflinch lol
Dugtrio next please
Turki Alamri Yesss!!
How good was Rotom Wash ACTUALLY?
Jirachi A It's gen 4, a 5 mins video is stupid
Yeah rotoms!
Man! I keep saying "if i could make my joy into a cure for depression, i would get over my sadly terrifying fear of needles to do so" but all i needed was a Togepi to just take my mental joy to others. I wish atleast cause i am overly happy alot of the time.
Do Typhlosion, Meganium, and Feraligatr before moving on to Generation 3 evo. families! You should do the generations starters final evolutions before moving on to the next generation of evo. families! I WILL NEVER GIVE UP! FOR JOHTO!!!
TheNorth15 They are bad.
+Andrei Valdez
Not really.
Feraligatr is the best sheer force user and has access to Dragon Dance and Water STAB
Typhlosion's strong special attack and speed combined with a limited but powerful movepool packs a punch that he's able to sweep in double battles. In fact he was at one time stronger than Charizard offensively and under Sunny Day, Typhlosion is frighteningly powerful with Eruption able to take down a Cresselia with just two hits and that's without choice specs.
Meganium, while doesn't really do much offensively, can still be useful as a strong support as that's what Meganium was intentionally designed for, boasting a ton of support move combinations that most other support Pokemon don't have.
Feraligatr is a worse crawdaunt and the other 2 are straight up garbage
Also the title of best sheer force user goes for nidoking, outside of ubers
+Rick Harris
Not really. Feraligatr's access to water STAB and Dragon Dance make it a far better versatile sheer force user than Landorus. And yes, while Gyarados is certainly better, unless it fails to set up with Moxie unlike Feraligatr who gets Sheer Force right off the bat, that doesn't mean Feraligatr is bad. If anything, your comment neglects the fact that because Feraligatr is one of the most versatile sheer force users out there. He's not only the best sheer force user, he's widely considered by many people as one of the most OP starters out there.
Now your just underestimating Charizard before his Mega Evolution. What Charizard lacks offensively makes up for it defensively. Also any good player will learn when to use Typhlosion at the right time instead of having it die in a situation it can't win. If used properly and timed right under the right conditions, Typhlosion can easily sweep Pokemon faster than him like Greninja or Espeon if you know Typhlosion has flame charge. Even so, you greatly underestimate the fact that Typhlosion's access to Eruption and Eruption alone changes everything, combined with his other moves and strong stats makes him a Pokemon with offensive power that overpowers most Pokemon.
Meganium isn't really inferior to most other support Pokemon. In fact he's decent at doing the job of setting up defenses, curing or placing stats on Pokemon. Due to it's access of combination of moves like Aromatherapy, Reflect or Light Screen that most other support Pokemon don't have, Meganium does stand out a lot. Still it needs a lot of improvement as there are still a few other ones that do the job better.