How are we feeling about this exotic? (Time traveler post) Wanted to update and say it takes about 10 kills to charge, still doesn't really change my opinion at all on these. Since Sunday I've been on vacation and prepped many videos before leaving in a short time including this one. Thanks for watching
It’s really good with alethonym. Each remnant from the gun gives one kill worth of charge so it’s like 5 kills or you can stick a yellow bar and get half the bar charged. I feel the rockets themselves do some decent damage. Enough to kill red bars on expert I believe? Getting full frost armor is also nice which helps with grenade regen on pure stasis.
Honestly yup for me its trash 🗑️..... I used it once but icefall , mask,even abyeant leap is insane that it not require any kill and give woven mail for 10 sec with shackle, snare bomb gernade as well as control.....if on stasis why not icefall , if on prismatic or strand why not abyeant leap ....rather than this 8 sec frost armor 🥲....
They could change it from just throwing out stasis crystals to spawning seekers that then create the crystals. Not sure how much this would help the exotic though.
I love titan and always have and with that said, these boots are not very good. They are really cool but like you said it is hard to intentionally get use out of them and the return from how long it takes to get the slide is underwhelming. Especially when held to things like Icefall and Cadmus Cap this season.
@@Ehroar mid af they need to stop giving bad exotic armors that do nothing or basically a "duplicate" exotic which already fills a roll that something else does better
I believe using it with howl of the storm will make it tighter and it does quite a bit of damage. You do have to be in an enemies face for it to work tho, that’s what if been doing and it’s pretty fun
if you punch after activating it removes the massive pushback and gives it a tighter spread, you can nuke single targets because all the projectiles will condense
@@jaredmiller7258 unpowered, the melee just needs something to lunge too which is why it works best on high health targets but realistically as long as the enemy is within lunge distance it will work no matter the health of the enemy
I understand Bungie trying to utilize the rocket jump physics that they've been trying out since the new Mountaintop, but this exotic seemed like a ham-fisted measure of trying to spice up gameplay. New stuff and new play styles are always appreciated though, I hope Bungie sees the feedback about this exotic and reworks it or tune it to a new level. During a Behemoth super, I can see adding in slides (that also pushes you back to position) if they remove the gauge requirement. Pipedream: add in an aura that buffs teammates as well.
Controversial reply here, but momentum physics either need proper implementation as a game mechanic or they to just nerf the tools that exploit the movment system. Bungie plays on the fence with this issue and the only ones who can take advantage of it are through exploitation. Like eager edge sword swapping and skating ARE NOT intended mechanics and the game should reflect this. Ignore the fun factor, this game has an identity to uphold and I'm just tired of Bungie trying to act like they want us to "just have fun" when they clearly arnt really like that. If they were chill like that, then "over-performing" wouldn't be their favorite line.
No mention that Alethonym's orbs charge up the meter? I'd think that a review for an exotic armor piece would include the interaction it has with an exotic weapon
if bungie wanted to improve these, i would like for them to switch the requirement to charge them from final blows to damage taken. it helps support the "tanky frontliner" fantasy they want titans to fulfill and seems to fit the exotic as well. id also want the crystals to spawn in the same area code as me please
@andrewlance5471 No dude you don't get it. Loreley, Pyrogale, Hazardous Propulsion, massive buffs to Stronghold, Peregrine Greaves, Wormgod, Peacekeepers, Quiet One, Icefall Mantle and having the most effective prismatic Star-Eater super that had to get a massive nerf don't count because... because they just don't, okay? 😔
Change it so that you have to press jump during the slide to activate it. Also change the spread so that when you slide, the spread gets tighter the longer into the slide you are. So basically if you jump after immediately sliding it’s a wide spread, but jumping toward the end of the slide make it a tight spread in front of you.
Parasite with 20 stacks only does like a 1/3 of your health with self damage. Makes you way more lilely to survive and get the weapons buff afterwards.
You're misusing them, I've been feeling incredibly powerful with these and the new nade launcher + Prismatic. Consecration + Knockout + Blastwave Shards on slide does an incredible amount of damage to bosses AND ads clears like crazy. They work in tandem with the new exotic stasis grenade launcher as kills with that will spawn the little orbs and give you double the energy when collected towards the Blastwave Strider perk. The only buff I see would be to get the ability quicker, so instead of 10-15 kills it takes cut that in half around 5-7... if that were to happen, every other slide I'd have a blastwave ready.
@KromeraxPrime I have also been feeling pretty strong with them and that says something since the only exotic I don't have yet is icebreaker out of all the exotic armor and weapons
Should be considered a dodge inputwise and it could generate a big cristal below you catapulting you towards the direction you inputted. Also should get charge through general damage and shattering.
Finally a content creator saying this, solo’s slay out in regular strikes and think everything is broken and we are still stuck with trash titan exotics forever 😅
I created a topic on Destiny reddit regarding these yesterday and layed out in depth why I don't like them. I'll give the TLDR. Cons: -Stasis crystal pattern is too wide and hard to aim -The activation is bad as it gets set off accidently more than purposefully -Unless you are using Alethonym it takes a long time to fill the activation meter. Pros: -The blast resistance is very nice. Fixes: -Crystal pattern is more concentrated. -Activation meter fills faster, similar to Hazardous Proplulsion. -Use the class ability button to activate, similar to thrusters on Arc/Prismatic. Then I can activate when I want. -Keep the blast resistance. Its a cool perk. It is fun but that's about it. Unusable in anything challenging.
Ive used these a lot since the launxh of revenant, so ive got some opinions. I think the utility is nice (reduced self damage and free frost armor). At first i wanted to save my slides for “big plays” but quickly realized this was not the use of these. I have found these to be a really nice survival tool, getting u out of bad situations fast and freezing nearby stuff. Also in tight areas (like most of the new dungeon) it works really well, ccing and damaging alot of enemies. With that being said, the spread of the crystals needs to be looked at, too many crystals in too wide an area. I think itd be kinda neat if it just became a “free” howl of the storm, and maybe equipping the aspect makes the range longer or a bit wider. Another change could just be tightening the spread by like 75 percent, create a semi circle of crystals right in front of the user. Overall a really fun exotic, just not the new meta or best in slot, they have been a fun change of pace from hoarfrost tho
There's two things I can say make this exotic pretty fun or would make it so much better! 1. Put Salvations Grip on! Sooooo many crystals haha. 2. We NEED a Stasis Wave Frame GL! Fire it straight at your feet wave of like Iceflare Bolts Freezing everything as the crystals go out! Big booms! That said? Charge needs to be WAY faster, Crystals need to be like a defensive wall similar to the Stasis Chest Piece & the rockets fly out shattering the wall damaging the enemies. It needs to freeze, the shatter needs to slow. It could be REALLY good but it needs work big time.
I dunno mang. This past year has had like. 2 new good exotics? Mothkeepers took ex diris getting big buffs to be good. Tbh i think all classes have a similar amount of mid ass exotics. Cough *blight ranger* cough
@@karson2022 I'm talking in general. The best titan exotics just gives you more melee damage. They have had to nerf so many of them into the ground bc of pvp or were designed to only be used in pvp there's probably half of them that are actually good and not even that unique lol
@@TheMax107 and yes in general i would say most of the classes have a lot of mid exotics, though far less now than before since a lot of buffs have brought ones that are terrible into being good
I really like this exotic, I made one of the most fun builds I’ve ever played with these. Paired with icebreaker and artifact perk that send out shards is actually insane. Use consencration to immediately slam down when you get launched to instantly shatter those crystals and I can pull out my heavy GL without worry (takes 3 rockets to die and 4 heavy GL shots). Also using mountain top for it BS perk active you go flying in the air. Ngl it’s just such a cool feeling when you slide, get launched in the air and shoot that crystal with icebreaker and just have ignition and shatter everywhere
Changes: Require pressing your class ability button to trigger the Exotic and maybe remove the self-explosion activation, as I don't see the need besides some movement tech. Have the crystal form in the path that you moved back from, essentially a reverse Howl of the Storm. Also, while equipped, grant it the ability to shatter crystals on slide.
(Lengthy rant, apologize in advance) Bungie finding creative ways to avoid creating to not have exotics synergize with aspects fragments or on rare occasions supers. Imagine if they created an exotic for hunter that took forever to charge and would activate off of their dodge. Like who would that be for? I was thinking the exotic could be more like a relic in Borderlands where if you slide you slide farther and shoot little ice shards while you slide. It's mainly utility to set up damage as well as good movement and there is no cooldown. So if this exotic is meant to be for sliding it needs to be high uptime with utility. If it does take awhile to charge then it needs to be potent af. Especially if dying removes all progress. Why doesn't the exotic synergize with the Cryoclasm aspect that pretty much never gets used where sliding into crystals or frozen enemies can build the charge and then slow nearby enemies both from just the slide and from shattering stasis crystals. Why not have something that buffs crystals and like how Warlocks got a super turret or Hunters with Renewal grasps. It's not even a cool idea, it's a half of an idea that didn't spend nearly as much time in the lab and got shipped out with the hope that they'll fix it later. It's not even like they don't even understand Titan it's that they sometimes get some weird idea like Blight Ranger and just never stop to ask where this would even be good in the game as it currently sits. Once again I just want to point out that Hunters have the biggest debuff of any class, Warlocks can get x2 restoration and a better devour how do they keep overlooking Titan identity where the class can't even have better frost armor or better shatter, better ignitions... hell we can't even get a better overshield outside of it buffing melee damage and grenade regen which don't really synergize with each other. Where is the Titan specific support exotic or aspects that would come in handy for Contest modes? Hunters have Tether and Gold Gun which are best in slot for what they do. Well is, well, Well. Warlocks can also heal teammates from a distance and passively as well as having a super that regenerates ability energy really well. Why can't something like Actium War Rig be used to create ammo or Ward of Dawn. No instead that exotic goes to Warlock as well. Titans are the tip of the spear and the first line of defense. Why not have an exotic that debuffs taunted enemies now that taunting is in the game. Or can generate ammo or grant ability energy when being behind a barricade or something. At least unbreakable can produce a lot of orbs and take a lot of aggro and I just use Leviathan's Breathe to stun lock bosses for my teammates to feed all the way into the utility. But I imagine that'll get nerfed because how dare Titans do something to support a team outside of high burst damage which Hunters can do just as good anyways. I hate coming off so bitter, but this keeps happening and all they do to compensate is make Titans hit melees harder. Why did peacekeepers get a damage buff for SMGs when it's something that would serve way better on Actium War Rig. Take Hazardous propulsion for example. You need headshots to get the stacks but they give the damage to rocket damage which can't crit. So you have this constant fight with damage that is buffed in rockets that you can't stack back up and reapply the buff. It's a fine exotic that once again lacks any true synergy with anything. The fact that Hazardous Propulsion buffs Grand Overture rockets but Grand Overture doesn't build stacks is crazy nonsense.
It does have a hidden synergy with the new season pass exotic, the remnants it makes charge the meter of the boots by quite a bit. You can actually spam it quite often that way.
If you slide into an enemy and normal punch them, the schards are way more condensed and can even 1-shot mini bosses and champs in lower difficulties. You also stay on the ground
Would be cool if it enhanced any stasis attack or you could direct the crystals, like sliding makes a howl of the storm longer line, or glacier grenade becomes the hunter circle version or something
It’s meant to be used with the new exotic GL. They’re super fun and the spears you shoot out have a larger hitbox than it seems and can do a lot of damage. That’s the main function the crystals you shoot out are more of a bonus for whatever you need them for.
They should have just made it so that you rocket backwards after Howl of the Storm so that you aren’t accidentally using it. Also Howl is improved generating more crystals and granting super energy when freezing enemies with Howl
I think this was designed primarily with onslought in mind .Don’t run around with explosive weapons and sliding everywhere. Utilize titans normal jump and use the exotic strategically not in open fields just lanes.(Personally I have no problem with this exotic)
The only good tip I've heard thus far about these things is: slide close to an enemy and melee them, it'll proc the blastwave and do it so close to the enemy that they ATLEAST catch more than one of the projectiles you shoot out. does make your punch feel like its hitting like a cannon, but v niche, and given that on stasis you won't get heals from doing this, its risky. on prismatic, that might be better, but at that point, why are you even running this exotic? Feels like its trying to do too many things at once. either give us a rocket jump, or a big duckbill-spread stasis-flavored consecration.
I'd like it to where proccing through the slide would be an option to have a direct in front, focused distribution, and have a separate jump activation by jumping then self-damaging. Jumping and then self-damaging would indicate the obvious attempt to proc the exotic.
I feel like the Icicles on the Warlock Exotic should become a New Stasis VERB called Frost Bite. They could be the Threadlings Equivalent for Stasis because the Verbs are mostly based around Utility than Damage. Then you could get them from Shatter Diving, Using Frost Pulse and Titan Melee Attacks as well as from the Harvest Aspects and then add them to Exotics like this one
Let the activation be a jump during a slide and let the direction be influenced by wasd and let the shrapnel EITHER target and freeze enemies, OR let them fly out in the direction you jump. Either very cool
They are really clunky but kinda fun to use for me. The stasis crystal part of them doesn’t really do much but the shrapnel projectiles that spawn the crystals do quite a bit of damage. Barrel stuffing a strike boss with the slide was pretty goofy but nothing too practical lol
I really wish bungie could’ve pulled a aeon series with this but here’s what my idea was Any time you activate the said ability or action in what the exotic says to do for each class It actually gives you cryo rounds And think about it BUT With the new exotic stasis GL
Personally I think they need to essentially give you a second melee charge when it’s a Stasis melee so prismatic can still use it. Secondly it should offer an enhance Howl aspect. Making it able to make a normal howl crystal when on prismatic but then a kind of lash esc effect when running full stasis mini glacial quake(stasis cataclysmic)
I don't even own any of the new exotic armor pieces yet. From seeing gameplay of others having them, I knew instantly that Titans got the worst one. The spread is way too far, slide to activate is too easy to accidentally use it, and it doesn't even do much anyway. It's a cool/neat idea, just needs some tweaks/buffs to make it usable. Sticking to Icefall Mantle for sure
what they could do with it is make it do a m2 attack like from its super but when y ou slide while pressing V for example. It releases a wave of crystals in an arc infront of you instead. That would be way better. It would be the equivalent of bonk hammer.
Basically it is trying to do what 3 different exotics do at once but worse. If you want more crystals just use Hoarfrost-Z. If you want more frost armor go for Icefall Mantle. If you want some missiles built up passively use Hazardous Propulsion. Also with the spread on these and the fact that you trigger it with a slide you would think it wants you to slide into a group of enemies like with consecration but then it flings you backwards. Seems counter-productive.
They should change it so that hits with explosive weapons create 3 stasis shards upon impact. You would still have to charge it up, maybe drop it down to 10 kills (stasis kills require fewer kills). This way you can do dps or clear ad with a rocket or GL.
Honestly, sliding should generate a complete circle of ice around you. Rocket jumping should always grant you frost armor. The charge meter should be based on hits with with explosive weapons or damage against slowed or frozen combatants.
IMO the self-damage reduction implemented in this exotic should probably just be made as a standard for all classes and/or maybe connected to Resilience stat. There are too many weird lingering hitbox issues that cause instant deaths from GLs and rockets right now as-is. The exotic here could double down on that possibly, but as you’ve covered here already, it needs pretty much a makeover as it isn’t doing enough to justify it over anything else. The activation needs a proper trigger or notification, and it needs to charge faster, with a tighter crystal pattern.
This exotic could pair well with Winterbite. It has self-damage with its projectile explosion, its a stasis weapon, etc etc. That's where my brain goes for this thing. And its definitely going to be silly fun to pair with like, mountaintop or the new primary stasis GL in pvp. But that's for silly fun more than practicality.
I think what they should’ve done was make it spawn coldsnap grenades and freezing targets makes them explode and explosion damage gives u chunks of grenade energy maybe? Or destroying crydstal freezes nearby targets
It should track like the Exodus rockets do on the chest piece. When this exotic got shown it looked like the legs version of that chespiece exotic so im not sure why they didnt also make it track.
If i were to change it id keep it how it is ,with its charge being alot less. But with cryoclasam equipped itd have it shoot forward in a large fan akin to glacial quake.
Here is how I would propose fixing this exotic: 1) you make it so that the exotic activates only when you slide and activate you class ability mid slide, like howl of the storm on melee except it doesn’t consume class ability energy. 2) tighten the radius just a bit. Enemies converge too much for it to be that wide and actually hit stuff.
Because not everyone wants to use alethonym to charge it quickly, just to have it accidently go off when you slide or take a little bit of self damage.
Only time I take them off is to use Cuirass for Puppeteer. Some of the best ad clear this season. And definitely the most fun. Also it charges fast with the new exotic GL.
I get why they're doing this though. Stasis titan and their super slides are iconic from back in the Beyond Light days. They're also trying to promote rocket/mountaintop jumping, like the danger zone rework. It's just kind of awkward. Slapping stasis onto a rocket jump exotic feels kind of like two good ideas that don't mix very well, you know?
10 kills that shoot 4 crystals would make this WAY more useful as you'd get them quicker and they would be more infront of you to actually use them. This change would basically make them a better version of Hoarfrost with thruster. Personally I would prefer Hoarfrost to get more crystals when using thruster like how these shoot out and a change to these legs to be class agnostic either through weapon buffs or it uses the verb of whatever the super is. Running in and sliding to scorch or jolt enemies would be more fun than these crystals
Needs a tighter and more predictable spread and has to charge faster. Self damage trigger also has to be removed. Then it won’t suck. Cadmus ridge is just so much better. Ig it wouldn’t be a titan exotic if it was usable on launch
if this was a way to use coldsnap and glaciers with cryoclasm and shards it'd be awesome. but this uncontrollable version of cryo + a slide that throws you backwards might be a bit too much for the average d2 player
Having to kill 20 ads to be able to badly clear some more ads is not what an exotic needs to do when almost everything that kills ads can just kill more ads.
I got the Stasis GL from the new dungeon with Danger Close/Surrounded.. With Danger Close on you take nearly 0 damage from the GL by shooting your feet with these exotics on. Thought I could make a somewhat silly build with Stasis Surge mods, that GL and the new primary Stasis one on the Season pass to just run into groups of enemies and shoot my feet but it's definitely not practical in Endgame haha
Needs to take like half the amount of kills to fully charge and then the spread of them needs to be forward facing in like a 45 degree angle instead of literally 180 degrees or more it seems to be now
I feel like this exotic exemplifies exactly what has been wrong with titans for so long, bungie has made a class that is so specific and only shines in these specific scenarios and when it isn't in it, it sucks a lot.
Parasite could see some use given self damage is core to how it works but it seems one of those fun mid tier content mess about exotics that you rarely use but sit in vault just in case
I can't even say if I die less when I play this exo and use a GL or rocket launcher, because I feel like I get thrown off the map just as often, if not more often, because of this random push while I slide.
Not a you problem. It happens to me all the time when using them. They're kinda fun for silly stuff that doesn't matter. Not anything you should use in harder content.
The best use for them is up close with parasite. Outside of that they are just kinda fun. But the hidden synergy woth alethonym is cool. Just sucks titans and hunters dont have a useful synergy like necrotic and weapons of sorrow.
Titans keep getting exotics based on taking damage, it’s the worst concept. Would have been better working like the new Hunter arc melee, jump and then proc it - and then from there get a free slam that is just like the super with a massive wave of ice straight ahead. Or, Basically Consecration On Ice
the issue is you have no control over activating this, yes you can slide but cmon how many of us do this out of habit? and dealing self explosive dmg is just stupid imo as a form of activation. either give this a 4th "ability" to activate OR it gives us a 2nd bar similar to transcendence bar that we can use when its charged (like the bar its self for the exotic), there simply needs to be any easier way to activate this exotic beyond sliding/self explosive dmg. Personally this exotic just needs a rework in how it functions. it shouldnt proc on kills only, i feel this should proc on melee dmg AND stomp dmg from bosses as well as kills, it should also imo negate melee/stomp dmg like its doing with explosive dmg to promote being up close and personal with bosses WHERE the actual main part of the exotic WOULD function if they made the crystals come out from an arc in front of you not all around. I would love to use this if i could basically charge it ever few boss stomps and nuke it with crystal dmg while going ham with explosive dmg on top, would heavily promote swords/rocket combos and be nice and tanky for that play style.
You know what's way better than these? running no exotic and just spamming consecration on prismatic titan and that's without syntho or the exotic class item.
what do people expect its a failed hunter exotic they gave to ttians because they couldn't think of anything for them seriously the way it dyes, the way it looks, how it acts everything about it says hunter exotic, and if its not the only reason it doesn't have tracking on the rockets something its desperately needs is because of the Hazardous Propulsion chest which when you rallies that its even more obvious its a failed exotic they used only because they had no other ideas for titan -.-
How are we feeling about this exotic? (Time traveler post)
Wanted to update and say it takes about 10 kills to charge, still doesn't really change my opinion at all on these.
Since Sunday I've been on vacation and prepped many videos before leaving in a short time including this one. Thanks for watching
It’s really good with alethonym. Each remnant from the gun gives one kill worth of charge so it’s like 5 kills or you can stick a yellow bar and get half the bar charged.
I feel the rockets themselves do some decent damage. Enough to kill red bars on expert I believe? Getting full frost armor is also nice which helps with grenade regen on pure stasis.
Honestly yup for me its trash 🗑️..... I used it once but icefall , mask,even abyeant leap is insane that it not require any kill and give woven mail for 10 sec with shackle, snare bomb gernade as well as control.....if on stasis why not icefall , if on prismatic or strand why not abyeant leap ....rather than this 8 sec frost armor 🥲....
They could change it from just throwing out stasis crystals to spawning seekers that then create the crystals. Not sure how much this would help the exotic though.
I love titan and always have and with that said, these boots are not very good. They are really cool but like you said it is hard to intentionally get use out of them and the return from how long it takes to get the slide is underwhelming. Especially when held to things like Icefall and Cadmus Cap this season.
@@Ehroar mid af they need to stop giving bad exotic armors that do nothing or basically a "duplicate" exotic which already fills a roll that something else does better
Can’t wait for this exotic to be buffed in two years time
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This needs to charge up like 4x faster. 20 kills for essentially a single glacier nade is insane.
A significantly worse glacier at that, spread all over the place so it does diddly for damage and you can't pop them all at once
yup . you guys mention the 2 main reasons i vaulted it
@@bobbybushe2389 i don't even have it yet, Rahool takes a ridiculous amount of drops for a reset
@@alext9550farm lost sectors for exotic engrams them dump them on Rahool lol
Its only viable with alethonym
Idea is cool. Needs a tighter spread on the stasis projectiles for them to be viable. If they condense it down I think they could be good.
Hey I will be posting a video on how to get a tighter spread when I get home
I believe using it with howl of the storm will make it tighter and it does quite a bit of damage. You do have to be in an enemies face for it to work tho, that’s what if been doing and it’s pretty fun
if you punch after activating it removes the massive pushback and gives it a tighter spread, you can nuke single targets because all the projectiles will condense
@@J11x11 powered or unpowered melee?
@@jaredmiller7258 unpowered, the melee just needs something to lunge too which is why it works best on high health targets but realistically as long as the enemy is within lunge distance it will work no matter the health of the enemy
I understand Bungie trying to utilize the rocket jump physics that they've been trying out since the new Mountaintop, but this exotic seemed like a ham-fisted measure of trying to spice up gameplay. New stuff and new play styles are always appreciated though, I hope Bungie sees the feedback about this exotic and reworks it or tune it to a new level. During a Behemoth super, I can see adding in slides (that also pushes you back to position) if they remove the gauge requirement. Pipedream: add in an aura that buffs teammates as well.
thatd be sick slide into slam and if theres a way to replicate the condensing of the crystals in super thats damn near doubling the dmg
This pairs better with winterbite than the rocket jumping for pve tbh
Controversial reply here, but momentum physics either need proper implementation as a game mechanic or they to just nerf the tools that exploit the movment system.
Bungie plays on the fence with this issue and the only ones who can take advantage of it are through exploitation.
Like eager edge sword swapping and skating ARE NOT intended mechanics and the game should reflect this.
Ignore the fun factor, this game has an identity to uphold and I'm just tired of Bungie trying to act like they want us to "just have fun" when they clearly arnt really like that. If they were chill like that, then "over-performing" wouldn't be their favorite line.
@@terrestrialtoker fair tbh
The spread should be tigher, breaking crystal should charge it a little and I think they should put some type of activation that is more controlable
No mention that Alethonym's orbs charge up the meter? I'd think that a review for an exotic armor piece would include the interaction it has with an exotic weapon
womp womp its trash anyway
@@Jerky-22 insightful comment right there
@@Jerky-22womp womp git good
@Jerky-22 if you think it's trash then it must be a skill issue on your end
@@ruddyplays2753 rage bait used to be believable
i bet Bungie had no idea what they could do for the titan and just put a filler Exo in so titan got 1 too.
if bungie wanted to improve these, i would like for them to switch the requirement to charge them from final blows to damage taken. it helps support the "tanky frontliner" fantasy they want titans to fulfill and seems to fit the exotic as well. id also want the crystals to spawn in the same area code as me please
Why do titans always get the meme exotics :(
They don’t really give a shit about titan. I mean it took 10 years for titans to get a taunt lol.
personally like it, lots of fun in pvp, not this one tho needs a buff asap
@@sonny3602they don’t give a shit about *insert class here*. Unoriginal bullshit complaint used by every class at some point.
We just got hazardous propulsion which is anything BUT a meme exotic
@andrewlance5471 No dude you don't get it. Loreley, Pyrogale, Hazardous Propulsion, massive buffs to Stronghold, Peregrine Greaves, Wormgod, Peacekeepers, Quiet One, Icefall Mantle and having the most effective prismatic Star-Eater super that had to get a massive nerf don't count because... because they just don't, okay? 😔
It's like triple the effort for a half as effective x5 Verglas Curve barrage.
These should have just directly buffed howl of the storm, increasing length/number of waves based on charge, kind of like abeyant leap.
Change it so that you have to press jump during the slide to activate it. Also change the spread so that when you slide, the spread gets tighter the longer into the slide you are. So basically if you jump after immediately sliding it’s a wide spread, but jumping toward the end of the slide make it a tight spread in front of you.
Parasite with 20 stacks only does like a 1/3 of your health with self damage. Makes you way more lilely to survive and get the weapons buff afterwards.
wait ... what ?
You can finally stay alive after 20x parasite shot with this on ??
finally triple solar loader parasite dps that buffs every shot
@@zaramintheequanimousyou could pull a chicken s2 and hot swap armor after you look up and shoot the parasite in the air
You're misusing them, I've been feeling incredibly powerful with these and the new nade launcher + Prismatic. Consecration + Knockout + Blastwave Shards on slide does an incredible amount of damage to bosses AND ads clears like crazy. They work in tandem with the new exotic stasis grenade launcher as kills with that will spawn the little orbs and give you double the energy when collected towards the Blastwave Strider perk. The only buff I see would be to get the ability quicker, so instead of 10-15 kills it takes cut that in half around 5-7... if that were to happen, every other slide I'd have a blastwave ready.
@KromeraxPrime I have also been feeling pretty strong with them and that says something since the only exotic I don't have yet is icebreaker out of all the exotic armor and weapons
Should be considered a dodge inputwise and it could generate a big cristal below you catapulting you towards the direction you inputted. Also should get charge through general damage and shattering.
Finally a content creator saying this, solo’s slay out in regular strikes and think everything is broken and we are still stuck with trash titan exotics forever 😅
@@GP-sz8mj although I used it in master difficulty vespers host and it was pretty decent
I created a topic on Destiny reddit regarding these yesterday and layed out in depth why I don't like them. I'll give the TLDR.
Cons:
-Stasis crystal pattern is too wide and hard to aim
-The activation is bad as it gets set off accidently more than purposefully
-Unless you are using Alethonym it takes a long time to fill the activation meter.
Pros:
-The blast resistance is very nice.
Fixes:
-Crystal pattern is more concentrated.
-Activation meter fills faster, similar to Hazardous Proplulsion.
-Use the class ability button to activate, similar to thrusters on Arc/Prismatic. Then I can activate when I want.
-Keep the blast resistance. Its a cool perk.
It is fun but that's about it. Unusable in anything challenging.
change from class ability to air dodge input ( as titans are the only one without a purpose using that input; shatterdive / ic-dash )
They should make the rocket jump slide and air move so that you don't accidently activate it during a slide.
It should be activated by air dodge key, shorter build-up time, and be like a double or triple howl of the storm in front of you
Ive used these a lot since the launxh of revenant, so ive got some opinions. I think the utility is nice (reduced self damage and free frost armor). At first i wanted to save my slides for “big plays” but quickly realized this was not the use of these. I have found these to be a really nice survival tool, getting u out of bad situations fast and freezing nearby stuff. Also in tight areas (like most of the new dungeon) it works really well, ccing and damaging alot of enemies.
With that being said, the spread of the crystals needs to be looked at, too many crystals in too wide an area. I think itd be kinda neat if it just became a “free” howl of the storm, and maybe equipping the aspect makes the range longer or a bit wider. Another change could just be tightening the spread by like 75 percent, create a semi circle of crystals right in front of the user.
Overall a really fun exotic, just not the new meta or best in slot, they have been a fun change of pace from hoarfrost tho
There's two things I can say make this exotic pretty fun or would make it so much better!
1. Put Salvations Grip on! Sooooo many crystals haha.
2. We NEED a Stasis Wave Frame GL! Fire it straight at your feet wave of like Iceflare Bolts Freezing everything as the crystals go out! Big booms!
That said? Charge needs to be WAY faster, Crystals need to be like a defensive wall similar to the Stasis Chest Piece & the rockets fly out shattering the wall damaging the enemies. It needs to freeze, the shatter needs to slow.
It could be REALLY good but it needs work big time.
New pacific epitaph from ghost of the deep. I have one with demolitionist and collective action
Winterbite pairs well as well
@@joeschmoe4561 T.Y for that! I might even have one in my Vault 😄🤦
A new titan exotic that is mid??? You don't say....
Compared to warlocks and hunters it feels a lot of titan exotics are mid
Warlocks exotic super juiced
I dunno mang. This past year has had like. 2 new good exotics? Mothkeepers took ex diris getting big buffs to be good. Tbh i think all classes have a similar amount of mid ass exotics. Cough *blight ranger* cough
@@karson2022 I'm talking in general. The best titan exotics just gives you more melee damage. They have had to nerf so many of them into the ground bc of pvp or were designed to only be used in pvp there's probably half of them that are actually good and not even that unique lol
@@TheMax107 and yes in general i would say most of the classes have a lot of mid exotics, though far less now than before since a lot of buffs have brought ones that are terrible into being good
I really like this exotic, I made one of the most fun builds I’ve ever played with these. Paired with icebreaker and artifact perk that send out shards is actually insane. Use consencration to immediately slam down when you get launched to instantly shatter those crystals and I can pull out my heavy GL without worry (takes 3 rockets to die and 4 heavy GL shots). Also using mountain top for it BS perk active you go flying in the air.
Ngl it’s just such a cool feeling when you slide, get launched in the air and shoot that crystal with icebreaker and just have ignition and shatter everywhere
no sense exotic, they should completly rework it
Changes:
Require pressing your class ability button to trigger the Exotic and maybe remove the self-explosion activation, as I don't see the need besides some movement tech.
Have the crystal form in the path that you moved back from, essentially a reverse Howl of the Storm.
Also, while equipped, grant it the ability to shatter crystals on slide.
(Lengthy rant, apologize in advance) Bungie finding creative ways to avoid creating to not have exotics synergize with aspects fragments or on rare occasions supers. Imagine if they created an exotic for hunter that took forever to charge and would activate off of their dodge. Like who would that be for? I was thinking the exotic could be more like a relic in Borderlands where if you slide you slide farther and shoot little ice shards while you slide. It's mainly utility to set up damage as well as good movement and there is no cooldown. So if this exotic is meant to be for sliding it needs to be high uptime with utility. If it does take awhile to charge then it needs to be potent af. Especially if dying removes all progress.
Why doesn't the exotic synergize with the Cryoclasm aspect that pretty much never gets used where sliding into crystals or frozen enemies can build the charge and then slow nearby enemies both from just the slide and from shattering stasis crystals. Why not have something that buffs crystals and like how Warlocks got a super turret or Hunters with Renewal grasps. It's not even a cool idea, it's a half of an idea that didn't spend nearly as much time in the lab and got shipped out with the hope that they'll fix it later. It's not even like they don't even understand Titan it's that they sometimes get some weird idea like Blight Ranger and just never stop to ask where this would even be good in the game as it currently sits.
Once again I just want to point out that Hunters have the biggest debuff of any class, Warlocks can get x2 restoration and a better devour how do they keep overlooking Titan identity where the class can't even have better frost armor or better shatter, better ignitions... hell we can't even get a better overshield outside of it buffing melee damage and grenade regen which don't really synergize with each other. Where is the Titan specific support exotic or aspects that would come in handy for Contest modes? Hunters have Tether and Gold Gun which are best in slot for what they do. Well is, well, Well. Warlocks can also heal teammates from a distance and passively as well as having a super that regenerates ability energy really well. Why can't something like Actium War Rig be used to create ammo or Ward of Dawn. No instead that exotic goes to Warlock as well. Titans are the tip of the spear and the first line of defense. Why not have an exotic that debuffs taunted enemies now that taunting is in the game. Or can generate ammo or grant ability energy when being behind a barricade or something. At least unbreakable can produce a lot of orbs and take a lot of aggro and I just use Leviathan's Breathe to stun lock bosses for my teammates to feed all the way into the utility. But I imagine that'll get nerfed because how dare Titans do something to support a team outside of high burst damage which Hunters can do just as good anyways.
I hate coming off so bitter, but this keeps happening and all they do to compensate is make Titans hit melees harder. Why did peacekeepers get a damage buff for SMGs when it's something that would serve way better on Actium War Rig. Take Hazardous propulsion for example. You need headshots to get the stacks but they give the damage to rocket damage which can't crit. So you have this constant fight with damage that is buffed in rockets that you can't stack back up and reapply the buff. It's a fine exotic that once again lacks any true synergy with anything. The fact that Hazardous Propulsion buffs Grand Overture rockets but Grand Overture doesn't build stacks is crazy nonsense.
It does have a hidden synergy with the new season pass exotic, the remnants it makes charge the meter of the boots by quite a bit. You can actually spam it quite often that way.
If you slide into an enemy and normal punch them, the schards are way more condensed and can even 1-shot mini bosses and champs in lower difficulties. You also stay on the ground
Would be cool if it enhanced any stasis attack or you could direct the crystals, like sliding makes a howl of the storm longer line, or glacier grenade becomes the hunter circle version or something
It’s meant to be used with the new exotic GL. They’re super fun and the spears you shoot out have a larger hitbox than it seems and can do a lot of damage. That’s the main function the crystals you shoot out are more of a bonus for whatever you need them for.
They should have just made it so that you rocket backwards after Howl of the Storm so that you aren’t accidentally using it. Also Howl is improved generating more crystals and granting super energy when freezing enemies with Howl
Ideas: Tighten Spread. Allow use of partial charges. Let shards build charge. Allow direction change of shard blast by looking up or down.
I think this was designed primarily with onslought in mind .Don’t run around with explosive weapons and sliding everywhere. Utilize titans normal jump and use the exotic strategically not in open fields just lanes.(Personally I have no problem with this exotic)
at least in terms of charging it up faster, the remnants from Alethonym also grant energy to the boots, so you can get your charge twice as fast
The only good tip I've heard thus far about these things is:
slide close to an enemy and melee them, it'll proc the blastwave and do it so close to the enemy that they ATLEAST catch more than one of the projectiles you shoot out. does make your punch feel like its hitting like a cannon, but v niche, and given that on stasis you won't get heals from doing this, its risky. on prismatic, that might be better, but at that point, why are you even running this exotic?
Feels like its trying to do too many things at once. either give us a rocket jump, or a big duckbill-spread stasis-flavored consecration.
I'd like it to where proccing through the slide would be an option to have a direct in front, focused distribution, and have a separate jump activation by jumping then self-damaging. Jumping and then self-damaging would indicate the obvious attempt to proc the exotic.
turns you into a Pixar character, awkwardly blasting ice everywhere when you forget about the charge and just slide around like usual.
I feel like the Icicles on the Warlock Exotic should become a New Stasis VERB called Frost Bite.
They could be the Threadlings Equivalent for Stasis because the Verbs are mostly based around Utility than Damage.
Then you could get them from Shatter Diving, Using Frost Pulse and Titan Melee Attacks as well as from the Harvest Aspects and then add them to Exotics like this one
Let the activation be a jump during a slide and let the direction be influenced by wasd and let the shrapnel EITHER target and freeze enemies, OR let them fly out in the direction you jump. Either very cool
They are really clunky but kinda fun to use for me. The stasis crystal part of them doesn’t really do much but the shrapnel projectiles that spawn the crystals do quite a bit of damage. Barrel stuffing a strike boss with the slide was pretty goofy but nothing too practical lol
I really wish bungie could’ve pulled a aeon series with this but here’s what my idea was
Any time you activate the said ability or action in what the exotic says to do for each class
It actually gives you cryo rounds
And think about it BUT
With the new exotic stasis GL
Personally I think they need to essentially give you a second melee charge when it’s a Stasis melee so prismatic can still use it. Secondly it should offer an enhance Howl aspect. Making it able to make a normal howl crystal when on prismatic but then a kind of lash esc effect when running full stasis mini glacial quake(stasis cataclysmic)
I don't even own any of the new exotic armor pieces yet. From seeing gameplay of others having them, I knew instantly that Titans got the worst one. The spread is way too far, slide to activate is too easy to accidentally use it, and it doesn't even do much anyway.
It's a cool/neat idea, just needs some tweaks/buffs to make it usable. Sticking to Icefall Mantle for sure
Stoicism with inmost/syntho is my go-to for now. No gimmicky meter or whatever, just consecrate and everything is dead
what they could do with it is make it do a m2 attack like from its super but when y ou slide while pressing V for example. It releases a wave of crystals in an arc infront of you instead. That would be way better. It would be the equivalent of bonk hammer.
Basically it is trying to do what 3 different exotics do at once but worse. If you want more crystals just use Hoarfrost-Z. If you want more frost armor go for Icefall Mantle. If you want some missiles built up passively use Hazardous Propulsion.
Also with the spread on these and the fact that you trigger it with a slide you would think it wants you to slide into a group of enemies like with consecration but then it flings you backwards. Seems counter-productive.
They should change it so that hits with explosive weapons create 3 stasis shards upon impact. You would still have to charge it up, maybe drop it down to 10 kills (stasis kills require fewer kills). This way you can do dps or clear ad with a rocket or GL.
Honestly, sliding should generate a complete circle of ice around you. Rocket jumping should always grant you frost armor. The charge meter should be based on hits with with explosive weapons or damage against slowed or frozen combatants.
IMO the self-damage reduction implemented in this exotic should probably just be made as a standard for all classes and/or maybe connected to Resilience stat. There are too many weird lingering hitbox issues that cause instant deaths from GLs and rockets right now as-is. The exotic here could double down on that possibly, but as you’ve covered here already, it needs pretty much a makeover as it isn’t doing enough to justify it over anything else. The activation needs a proper trigger or notification, and it needs to charge faster, with a tighter crystal pattern.
Something had to fill the void left by the icefall mantle improvements...
This exotic could pair well with Winterbite. It has self-damage with its projectile explosion, its a stasis weapon, etc etc. That's where my brain goes for this thing.
And its definitely going to be silly fun to pair with like, mountaintop or the new primary stasis GL in pvp. But that's for silly fun more than practicality.
just change the slide trigger to the air move key and reduce the kill requirement by a handful and we’ll be golden
I love this exotic, I only use it purely because it is fun. The damage is nice but having a tighter spread would make it 100% better (literally).
I think what they should’ve done was make it spawn coldsnap grenades and freezing targets makes them explode and explosion damage gives u chunks of grenade energy maybe? Or destroying crydstal freezes nearby targets
It should track like the Exodus rockets do on the chest piece. When this exotic got shown it looked like the legs version of that chespiece exotic so im not sure why they didnt also make it track.
This needs to trigger off a jump while sliding.
If i were to change it id keep it how it is ,with its charge being alot less. But with cryoclasam equipped itd have it shoot forward in a large fan akin to glacial quake.
All it needs is a slightly faster charge and a smaller radius of the crystals and it would be perfect
Here is how I would propose fixing this exotic:
1) you make it so that the exotic activates only when you slide and activate you class ability mid slide, like howl of the storm on melee except it doesn’t consume class ability energy.
2) tighten the radius just a bit. Enemies converge too much for it to be that wide and actually hit stuff.
The point isn’t to hit things with the missiles though, you make a minefield of crystals to detonate where you please for enhanced adclear
Why is nobody considering the exotics unique interaction with alethonym, once you par the two it allows you to really spam the stasis explosion.
Because not everyone wants to use alethonym to charge it quickly, just to have it accidently go off when you slide or take a little bit of self damage.
Only time I take them off is to use Cuirass for Puppeteer. Some of the best ad clear this season. And definitely the most fun. Also it charges fast with the new exotic GL.
I get why they're doing this though. Stasis titan and their super slides are iconic from back in the Beyond Light days. They're also trying to promote rocket/mountaintop jumping, like the danger zone rework. It's just kind of awkward. Slapping stasis onto a rocket jump exotic feels kind of like two good ideas that don't mix very well, you know?
10 kills that shoot 4 crystals would make this WAY more useful as you'd get them quicker and they would be more infront of you to actually use them. This change would basically make them a better version of Hoarfrost with thruster.
Personally I would prefer Hoarfrost to get more crystals when using thruster like how these shoot out and a change to these legs to be class agnostic either through weapon buffs or it uses the verb of whatever the super is. Running in and sliding to scorch or jolt enemies would be more fun than these crystals
Needs a tighter and more predictable spread and has to charge faster. Self damage trigger also has to be removed. Then it won’t suck. Cadmus ridge is just so much better. Ig it wouldn’t be a titan exotic if it was usable on launch
if this was a way to use coldsnap and glaciers with cryoclasm and shards it'd be awesome. but this uncontrollable version of cryo + a slide that throws you backwards might be a bit too much for the average d2 player
Having to kill 20 ads to be able to badly clear some more ads is not what an exotic needs to do when almost everything that kills ads can just kill more ads.
I got the Stasis GL from the new dungeon with Danger Close/Surrounded.. With Danger Close on you take nearly 0 damage from the GL by shooting your feet with these exotics on. Thought I could make a somewhat silly build with Stasis Surge mods, that GL and the new primary Stasis one on the Season pass to just run into groups of enemies and shoot my feet but it's definitely not practical in Endgame haha
Just take all the exotics back and give Titans the twilight garrison. One exotic to rule them all.
Needs to take like half the amount of kills to fully charge and then the spread of them needs to be forward facing in like a 45 degree angle instead of literally 180 degrees or more it seems to be now
I’m hoping bungie creates new exotic class items with perks from newer exotics, this just feels like it’s meant to be paired with something else
Change the jump back to be alt air move, like warlock and hunter
Thank God Icefall mantle got that God tier rework in my mind it's the REAL new season exotic this one can take its place in my vault.
I feel like this exotic exemplifies exactly what has been wrong with titans for so long, bungie has made a class that is so specific and only shines in these specific scenarios and when it isn't in it, it sucks a lot.
Agree, now onto the broken titan build this season please
if they fix the spread and add a button to activate it in slide then it will be better
Parasite could see some use given self damage is core to how it works but it seems one of those fun mid tier content mess about exotics that you rarely use but sit in vault just in case
Once this is buffed I could see titans running crux with slideshot and surrounded 😅
Not even gonna talk about it’s hidden synergy with alethonym?
I can't even say if I die less when I play this exo and use a GL or rocket launcher, because I feel like I get thrown off the map just as often, if not more often, because of this random push while I slide.
You can survive a 20 charged Parasite.
I'll try it when I can get it but I don't have too many doubts about it
If you kill with explosion damage, you gain charge faster
Not a you problem. It happens to me all the time when using them. They're kinda fun for silly stuff that doesn't matter. Not anything you should use in harder content.
The best use for them is up close with parasite. Outside of that they are just kinda fun. But the hidden synergy woth alethonym is cool. Just sucks titans and hunters dont have a useful synergy like necrotic and weapons of sorrow.
I miss the old hunter perma-invis combo. Bladedancer with Patience and Time
Jesus finally someone said it, every time i say this exotic is kinda ass people would jump me
I wanna see the hunter stasis exotic potential
Yeah not good. Agree, it takes too much to charge for essentially a spread out glacial grenade.
5 kills for activation, concentrate the crystals and projectiles in front of player *and probably change activation to slide melee instead
Boom fixed
It goes hard with a stasis build in onslaught and ad clear. One of my favorites.
Titans keep getting exotics based on taking damage, it’s the worst concept. Would have been better working like the new Hunter arc melee, jump and then proc it - and then from there get a free slam that is just like the super with a massive wave of ice straight ahead. Or, Basically Consecration On Ice
The only real use I see for this exotic is on the first boss of VH in conjunction with parasite since byproduct wants you to hit yourself.
My opinion on the new titan legs has just dropped
2:30 Whenever I see a player sliding all over the place all I really see is my friends grandma's dog, a pug, sliding his butthole on the carpet.
Dyk the seasonal exotic has direct synergy and fills the charge bar twice as fast?
the issue is you have no control over activating this, yes you can slide but cmon how many of us do this out of habit? and dealing self explosive dmg is just stupid imo as a form of activation. either give this a 4th "ability" to activate OR it gives us a 2nd bar similar to transcendence bar that we can use when its charged (like the bar its self for the exotic), there simply needs to be any easier way to activate this exotic beyond sliding/self explosive dmg.
Personally this exotic just needs a rework in how it functions. it shouldnt proc on kills only, i feel this should proc on melee dmg AND stomp dmg from bosses as well as kills, it should also imo negate melee/stomp dmg like its doing with explosive dmg to promote being up close and personal with bosses WHERE the actual main part of the exotic WOULD function if they made the crystals come out from an arc in front of you not all around.
I would love to use this if i could basically charge it ever few boss stomps and nuke it with crystal dmg while going ham with explosive dmg on top, would heavily promote swords/rocket combos and be nice and tanky for that play style.
You know what's way better than these? running no exotic and just spamming consecration on prismatic titan and that's without syntho or the exotic class item.
Not great but Im having fun using it, I hope they buff it somehow in the future
what do people expect its a failed hunter exotic they gave to ttians because they couldn't think of anything for them
seriously the way it dyes, the way it looks, how it acts everything about it says hunter exotic, and if its not the only reason it doesn't have tracking on the rockets something its desperately needs is because of the Hazardous Propulsion chest which when you rallies that its even more obvious its a failed exotic they used only because they had no other ideas for titan -.-
This should have been a hunter exotic… it’s gimmicky and hunters always get the useless gimmicky exotics
Yeah icefall really stole the show with its rework this season.