Value for money, the 4age is the best engine out there. I am from South Africa and i build my little 77mm stroke and 81mm bore true 1600 for maybe R30 000 and had it on 1.6 bar boost om meth and it made 380 kw at the wheels... True value for money... 🎉🎉
Wow that's good power, if I may ask what rods did you use? I also did my 4agze through Arno Homan from ACH performance and developments in Kempston park.... Engine has been build for 499hp on 1.5bar boost... Limited with my ze conrods...
Thanks brother the new motor is being assembled atm nik and I are currently filming the whole process of the "big dog" and there is a sneak peak to another motor I'm also planning to do 😊
I love to see if the surge would improve with long 400mm+ intake runners, the engine could use at least 25% more air at 2500rpm, I have made 5 different manifolds the longer the better. I turboed my first 4ag in 1993.
Why no compound turbo setup? It would avoid your surge and response problems without needing nitrous and that dump valve TB. If you had a primary (small) turbo running at a pressure ratio of 2.0 and a secondary (big) turbo running at a PR of 3.0, that would give you a total PR of 6.0 (you multiply the individual pressure ratios not add them as many people think). 6.0 should get you close to your horsepower goal. It is much easier to find turbos with efficient islands around a PR of 3.0. 6.0 is off the page for every compressor map I've ever looked at. You won't need 6.0 if you are going to spray it a lot, but most turbos will hit max turbine rpm before they get to 4.0, and you are already at 2.5. Respect for the power you are making on 2.5 though!
Not enough valvespring to cope with compounding pressure, the best valve spring you can get for this head is 60lb to 66lb seated, if I was a 16v compound would be a viable option
you guys must have seen 4age/7age madness in your days but have yall ever seen a 7age 20v with awd set up. Any awd set up like a rally style sequential. I only ask because i wanna do a 7age in my wagon but i wanna go awd at the same time.
I’ve seen a pretty hectic ae95 wagon with celica gearbox and front diff/transfer case running 4age turbo Launches like a golf r, I’d like to do something similar one day
I would have thought the 4age engine wouldnt of had a problem with turbo Surge since the evo 4g63 motor never had this problem....or a ej20 motor.....i thought the 4age would be better motor then ej20 and 4g63
@@mtperformanceengines3508 oh crap sorry my bad....I thought a 4age was a 2 litre engine....that's why I was thinking the 4age shouldn't struggle with turbo Surge.
4ag ftw!!! Sounds mad! Hopefully nothing major has gone wrong. Love my 28psi twincharger, be better when I can afford to do my new engine and run fancy internal shite, fancy fuel and a fancy tune!. haha
Why on everything? Surge= you are spooled too soon with big turbo/little motor. You don't need bleed valves, just larger tubine a/r. Why the 4 door POS car? 4age in 4 door POS car? For the money, a stock BMW would murder this car for less money while being daily driveable. People get caught up in engines like it's the only engine that will work. You win and most money spent for the least gained.
Value for money, the 4age is the best engine out there. I am from South Africa and i build my little 77mm stroke and 81mm bore true 1600 for maybe R30 000 and had it on 1.6 bar boost om meth and it made 380 kw at the wheels... True value for money... 🎉🎉
Wow that's good power, if I may ask what rods did you use?
I also did my 4agze through Arno Homan from ACH performance and developments in Kempston park.... Engine has been build for 499hp on 1.5bar boost... Limited with my ze conrods...
Hi Johan. Where did you build it? I'm in Welkom, Free State.
Great mechanic, and best of all fantastic teacher. He relays information so well. I love this channel ❤
Agreed great teacher👌
Im a 2j guy, but a 4age is a nasty motor. Props, i subbed. I can't wait for more
Well done guys shes a screamer would be a lot of fun on the road ! Loved all the videos watched all the us ones what a great adventure!
Wow, that thing sounds like a terrifying vicious predator! Very cool and tough car
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That motor is a weapon, I cant wait to see what Matts other engine can do. Great Vids, keep them coming
Thanks brother the new motor is being assembled atm nik and I are currently filming the whole process of the "big dog" and there is a sneak peak to another motor I'm also planning to do 😊
What's something like this worth dollar wise, be cool to slot one in my 87 mdl Jap import Toyota Hero pick-up. @mtperformanceengines3508
Great stuff, reminds me of the early days of RB26/30 & 2JZ in japan with the massive T88 turbo’s uncontrollable beasts on track or dyno😂👏.
I love to see if the surge would improve with long 400mm+ intake runners, the engine could use at least 25% more air at 2500rpm, I have made 5 different manifolds the longer the better. I turboed my first 4ag in 1993.
Wow I was born in 89 😅 , we have still yet to setup the nitrous for boost response so we will see how that pans out
cool work
What size turbo are you running? Looked through old videos and couldn’t find the info
3076gtx garret geniune also has custom work like gaplessring and ceramic ballbearings, old tech compared to today's turbos
Bleed me some of that boost >:)
What turbo is it? Do you think I'll have problems with an EFR 6758?
3076gtx garret, I have no idea on the efr but look at the compressor map and compare the my garret
@@mtperformanceengines3508 oof that's a big boy!
@salloroc20 lol it's a baby turbo compared to some of the other cars I build for customers 🤣
Why no compound turbo setup? It would avoid your surge and response problems without needing nitrous and that dump valve TB. If you had a primary (small) turbo running at a pressure ratio of 2.0 and a secondary (big) turbo running at a PR of 3.0, that would give you a total PR of 6.0 (you multiply the individual pressure ratios not add them as many people think). 6.0 should get you close to your horsepower goal. It is much easier to find turbos with efficient islands around a PR of 3.0. 6.0 is off the page for every compressor map I've ever looked at. You won't need 6.0 if you are going to spray it a lot, but most turbos will hit max turbine rpm before they get to 4.0, and you are already at 2.5. Respect for the power you are making on 2.5 though!
Not enough valvespring to cope with compounding pressure, the best valve spring you can get for this head is 60lb to 66lb seated, if I was a 16v compound would be a viable option
you guys must have seen 4age/7age madness in your days but have yall ever seen a 7age 20v with awd set up. Any awd set up like a rally style sequential. I only ask because i wanna do a 7age in my wagon but i wanna go awd at the same time.
You can do a dsg box awd conversion but it's not cheap
I’ve seen a pretty hectic ae95 wagon with celica gearbox and front diff/transfer case running 4age turbo
Launches like a golf r, I’d like to do something similar one day
@@NEVER-LIFT Do you have a link to that ae95
@@PH74KG had a quick look and couldn’t find it
It was a very long time ago it was blue if my memory serves me correctly
How the hell does that have registration?
I see no issue 😏
It doesn't have rego, that's an old plate
Crackup how a 4ag can make that power on 22psi. Theres Alot of other engines out there that would struggle to do that lol.
This is only the beginning aswel I got plenty more tricks up my sleeve 😊
I would have thought the 4age engine wouldnt of had a problem with turbo Surge since the evo 4g63 motor never had this problem....or a ej20 motor.....i thought the 4age would be better motor then ej20 and 4g63
The 4age is almost 25% smaller in cubic inch compared to the 2.0 4g63 and ej20 so I guess it's just different engine aswel in alot of ways
@@mtperformanceengines3508 oh crap sorry my bad....I thought a 4age was a 2 litre engine....that's why I was thinking the 4age shouldn't struggle with turbo Surge.
@@jmoore9806 Na brother 1600cc 21.7psi boost 489hp at the hubs 9000rpm she is doing OK for an old motor
@@mtperformanceengines3508 wow Very VERY impressive for a 1.6....congrats bro that's a sick build you have
@jmoore9806 thanks brother I'm only getting started there is plenty more to come
4ag ftw!!! Sounds mad! Hopefully nothing major has gone wrong.
Love my 28psi twincharger, be better when I can afford to do my new engine and run fancy internal shite, fancy fuel and a fancy tune!. haha
That thing is going!!!
Let me know when you get an R8 audi so we can twin turbo it 😏
Take em plates off for the vid haha
It's not registered to those plates lol they are 5 years out aswel 😊
Why on everything? Surge= you are spooled too soon with big turbo/little motor. You don't need bleed valves, just larger tubine a/r. Why the 4 door POS car? 4age in 4 door POS car? For the money, a stock BMW would murder this car for less money while being daily driveable. People get caught up in engines like it's the only engine that will work. You win and most money spent for the least gained.
Lol you lost me at bmw, hope you enjoy the videos brother