Why I Left My Charismatic Church and You Should Too IF You see THESE signs! | STORY TIME
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- How do you know when it may be time for you to leave your church? Well, in this video I'm going to share with you some signs that I saw and that you should look for when considering whether it may be time for you to leave your church especially if it's a charismatic church.
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Hey BEAT family, just wanted to stop in and share my thoughts and experiences on healthy and unhealthy churches. My heart is heavy for so many of you because my fear is that so many believers are attending unhealthy churches and I hope this video will show them some signs to look for in an unhealthy church. Enjoy and let me know what your church situation is right now in the comments below!
Thank Mr. Beat
What you are preaching is no better than what these other false teachers preach.
Hey brother other day I subscribe to your channel love the truth that you talk about
@@israelbattle5997 I subscribe to your channel brother
Love your teachings God bless.. From SA🇿🇦
When the leaders want to control every little thing about your personal life...... run.
@@JODYTHOMASWING that's exactly what JW are too a cult smh, my family went through alot with them as well smh
Facts!
You know JW will rather let you die than get a blood tranfusion
@@claudia644 I've heard this :(
@@JODYTHOMASWING I was a JW for 40 years, Jesus got me out in a day .
It’s fascinating to look back on past events with more mature eyes. Thanks for sharing.
It’s u
Amen!!
Amén!!
Your so right!!God bless💖✌🏾
Bro I love your channel, and I'm glad you're supporting the Christian community on RUclips! Many blessings
Just came across you today. You sound very pragmatic in your reasoning and understanding of scripture. I'm 69 and have studied the Bible many years. It is so encouraging to see a young man speaking the truth without fear of those that are twisting God's Word. God bless and stay strong, my brother in Christ.
People don’t study the Bible .. the Bible studies you
@@the6twenty2ndPride through the back door 😢
@@BaronReed-rj9rz - Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy.
@@the6twenty2nd2nd Timothy 2:12 says "Study to show thyself approved. We should be in the word and praying for God to help us understand the things that we aren't sure of or just don't understand.
@@tomward-wilson5411 13Who among you is wise and intelligent? Let him by his good conduct show his [good] deeds with the gentleness and humility of true wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not be arrogant, and [as a result] be in defiance of the truth. 15This [superficial] wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly (secular), natural (unspiritual), even demonic. 16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder [unrest, rebellion] and every evil thing and morally degrading practice. 17But the wisdom from above is first pure [morally and spiritually undefiled], then peace-loving [courteous, considerate], gentle, reasonable [and willing to listen], full of compassion and good fruits. It is unwavering, without [self-righteous] hypocrisy [and self-serving guile]. 18And the seed whose fruit is righteousness (spiritual maturity) is sown in peace by those who make peace [by actively encouraging goodwill between individuals].
Many years ago when I was attending Times Square Church in New York, a man in the audience stood up and started speaking in tongues with no interpretation. The pastor, David Wilkerson, stood up from his seat on the stage and said, “Ushers, STOP THAT MAN!” He wasn’t going to let any unhealthy behavior to continue. I knew then that I was in the right church.
Times Square Church is an amazing church. I visited them back in 2007.
Then you must know the next part that you didnt say , is that tongues that are Given Out in a church congregation that does have interpretation, IS biblical. David wilkerson knew this very well and pastor david Spoke in tongues and Operated in many, if not all the gift of the spirit. and he had great discernment . If what you are saying is true, then pastor david discerned demonic or error in that isolated instance , but Pastor D would not Forbid tongues ( God given) which is scriptural . Pastor David Wilkerson believed the bible- gifts of the spirit for today and operated in them.
This pastor was a fool Matthew 18 on this church they hurt this child the man was speaking for and that pastor knew it was a cry for help or a private interpretation to that pastor. Matthew 18 for a child has been hurt please JESUS CHRIST JESUS
Born and raised in a hyper charismatic church. Heard and understood the Gospel for the 1st time somewhere else, then learned that there was a LOT more to God than what they taught. I came to actual faith in Christ and never looked back. Right there with you.
I had the exact same experience. My family hates that I chose to leave but it was the best decision I ever made.
Amen. I also had the same experience. The gospel was never explained. Every week it seemed they preached on tithing and tongues
Born and raised in the same situation as you. NEVER EVER heard the plan of salvation till two men from another denomination came to my house on visitation night and led me and my wife to the Lord. I was 22 years old. Thanks brother and keep up the fight.
...***Greetings, Beloved of God. This message is lengthy but, it is very important.
The ancient Israelites was tested by the Sabbath commandment to see if they would keep God’s law or no in Exodus 16:4-
Do not be surprised if God allow man to do a similar test, enforce some type of Sabbath law to see if we will keep His law or no.
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Right now, we all do not see eye to eye, but, please hear me out..............
There is no way anyone can prove from the KJV Bible that Saturday, Sunday, etc. is the biblical seventh day Sabbaths. For, the words Saturday, Sunday, etc. do not appear in the Bible.
A continuous Saturday, Sunday, etc., “man made Sabbaths” ARE NOT the true Bible Sabbaths because they are not calculated by true time. God’s true time is written in Genesis 1:14.
When God commanded us to keep a seventh day Sabbath, kill the Passover on the 14th day of the first month, keep the day of atonement on the 10th day of the seventh month, etc......would He not have given us a calendar/Time to find these dates?
Yes, He would have and He did, in Genesis 1:14. We are commanded to keep the days, years, etc. by the lights in heaven (the sun, moon and stars.)
God did not specify which days, so, we must conclude that He meant for all of His 3 category of days to be kept by the lights in heaven.
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The Sabbath command is one of the Ten Commandments listed in Exodus 20. It is just as important as the other nine and God commands us to keep it.
Multitudes of people think and teach that we are only required to keep 9 of God’s Ten Commandments. My Friend, if we think this way, we are already deceived.
***The Sabbath is a feast. Leviticus 23:1-3
***The moon is for seasons. Psalms 104:19
***The lights in heaven are for seasons, etc. Genesis 1:14
***The words “feast” and “season” comes from the same Hebrew word, MOED.
***MOED is, appointed times, appointments, feast, season, etc.
The Sabbath is a MOED, an appointed time , a feast, a season, etc. Therefore, the moon, along with the other lights in heaven, are for Sabbaths.
THE SABBATH IS TO BE CALCULATED BY THE TIME GOD ORDAINED IN THE BEGINNING OF CREATION NOT BY MAN’S TIME/CALENDARS.
Who can prove from Genesis 1:14 that the Sabbath day is not calculated by the lights in heaven? Although many have tried, it cannot be refuted!!
Take a glimpse at the dates in Genesis 7:11 and Genesis 8:4,13,14. Are these dates calculated by the Time God commanded in Genesis 1:14 or by the Gregorian time or some other man made time?
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There are about 167 countries that keep Sunday as the seventh day and the remaining, approximately, 64 countries keep Saturday as the seventh day.
If there is a “seventh day Sunday law” enforced and the remaining 64 countries change their calendars to read Sunday as the seventh day, then, the world will be keeping Sunday the seventh day as the Sabbath.
Mon. Tue. Wed. Thur. Fri. Sat. Sunday Law
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7
What day will you and I then keep as the Sabbath?
Already today, there are “Sunday Blue Laws” on government books.
Man can change “their” time anytime and deceive the world under the leadership of Satan. We must calculate God’s Sabbath by God’s Time so The Great Deceiver can not trick us about the true Sabbath and “cause” us to worship him.
“ He will think to change time and laws.” says Daniel 7:25
He only “THOUGHT” to change time when He “supposedly” had replaced God’s calendar with his calendar on earth. For he could not and has not truly change time because God’s Time sits in the heavens where no man can tamper with it! The sun, moon and stars, the lights in heaven, are God’s Time/Calendar.
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God’s Calendar has three category of days, the new moon day, the six work days and the Sabbath day. 2 Kings 4:18-23 & Ezekiel 46:1-3. The new moon day is the first day of the month, the beginning of months. These days never, ever, ever overlaps each other on God’s Time!
........However, this is not true on the famous Gregorian calendar. The new moon day falls anywhere and everywhere on that calendar, in a given month.
For example, sometimes, the new moon day falls on a “man made Saturday Sabbath”, on a “man made Sunday Sabbath”, in the midst of the month, etc.
How can it both be the first day of the month and the seventh day Sabbath?
How can the first day of the month start in the midst of a month?
God said in Genesis 1:14 to, let the lights in heaven be for days, etc.
So, which one or ones of God’s three category of days are kept by the lights in heaven?
...The new moon day?
...The six work days?
...The Sabbath day?
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Example of God’s months:
1st week... new moon day, six work days and Sabbath day
2nd, 3rd, 4th weeks....six work days and Sabbath day
The next month the cycle starts over.
God’s months reset. Read Luke 6:1
Man uses this same concept. For example:
The 1st and 3rd Sunday in August, the 1st and 3rd Sunday in September.”
“The 2nd and 4th Sabbath in April, the 2nd and 4th Sabbath in May.”
Note: There is never, never, ever, ever, 5 weekly Sabbaths in any one of God’s months.
This is not true on the Gregorian calendar. Sometimes, there are 5 weekly “Gregorian Sabbaths.” This is not in align with true time.
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I believe there is a great deception coming to get people to worship Satan through a false Calendar/Sabbath controversy.
God is a God of truth. God guides people by His truth. God’s Word is truth. Truth is our shield and buckler. Truth will keep us from all deceptions, the mark of beast, etc.
Christ did not suffer on the cross for us to walk in a lie and continue to cling to our traditions! He did not die for us to keep obeying the “voice of man” above “the voice of God!”
Read the stories about “King Saul” in 1 Samuel 15 and the “man of God” in 1 king 13. Let us learn a lesson from these testimonies....Obey God’s Voice!
When we do and teach man’s commandments for doctrine, it is vain! It is useless! God does not honor it! There will be no reward!
Again! there is a great possibility some type of “Man made Sabbath Law” could be enforced. These latter days crises seems to be pointing in that direction. If this is not true, then, we do not have to worry about it......But.....
....If it is truth then, we need to become more knowledgeable about this subject in order to make the right decision whom we will honor and serve.
A Sabbath test will reveal those who believe Gods Word in Genesis 1:14 and those who do not believe His Word.
Whether there is or whether there is not a “Sabbath Test”, we still need to know the truth about God’s Time written in the Word of God so we can be obedient in all things.
***Worship Him that made heaven, earth and sea.
***Babylon is fallen! Babylon is fallen!
***Do not worship the Beast and receive his mark, whosoever does, will be eternal lost and be burnt with fire and brimstones.
****Read Revelation 13 & 14
This truth about God’s Calendar/Time and The Sabbath written in Genesis 1:14, Leviticus 23:1-3, Psalms 104:19, etc.is spreading throughout the four corners of the earth.
This message enrages many who claim to be followers of Christ because they can not refute it. It seems, the people outside the church buildings are the ones eagerly accepting it and believing it.
Please let us consider what is being said here and further research this important subject before it is to late.
Peace and Love Friends of God
@@christabelmateta not the pen too 🤣🤣🤣
If only folks will start reading the Bible, they will have the spirit of discernment. Misuse of the gift of the Holy Spirit is one of the biggest issues you find in some charismatic churches.
Amen! Amen! Reading is the key
Yep. Not only misuse of the gifts of the Holy Spirit but also the belief that you have a particular gift when you really don't. Demonic spirits can often disguise themselves as the Holy Spirit.
@@PockASqueeno
This is very true, very special emphasis on last statement.
Amen Brother The HOLY BIBLE says a great falling away in the last days All Glory to GOD GOD of Glory Sun of Righteous LORD of Glory JESUS CHRIST
Yes! Totally agree. It is God who speaks to us if we only read His Word. Thank you brother
Dude! That is exactly what happened to me. I have had problems finding a church that is spiritually mature for years but God allowed me to see the truth in his word, and im having to learn a lot of this stuff online and personal bible studies. Thanks for this video man.
This sounds like my story. I was raised in the United Pentecostal Church. I finally left and started searching the scriptures as well. I've been out of it for 25 years and still battle from the spiritual abuse I went through. I was shunned also when I left. There's a lot I could say, but I won't. I'm just so thankful that I've been delivered from that and that God revealed what Grace is through His Word.
What church did you end up going to afterwords? Just curious. I’m in Pentecostal “apostolic” from
My mom but I get mad when she tells me I don’t have the Holy Ghost from being baptized until I speak in tongues.
GOD bless you! It was a scary thing for me leaving the U.P.C. as they taught us that if we left that GOD would cut us off from his spirit and we'd be "turned over to a reprabate mind, was forever lost , would burn in hell forever and that there was no hope for us to ever know GOD again." But, i left when I was 18 ! So I lived the next 10 years BELIEVING everything that they taught us ! So I believed i was hopeless for about the next 10 years. During the end of that time i had sank into a dark, major clinical depression. To make a long story short, that major depression was the beginning of my healing and GOD REVEALED HIMSRLF TO ME IN SUCH A WAY THAT I'LL NEVER DOUBT THAT HE KNOWS ME, THAT HE'S MY LOVING FATHER AND THAT JESUS DID FOR ME ON THE CROSS WHAT I HAD SPENT MY LIFE TRYING TO DO BUT ALWAYS FAILED AT... WHICH WAS TRYING TO EARN HIS LOVE BY BEING "GOOD"! I am so thankful for his grace and all the chains/bonds that have been broken so now I can walk in the freedom of his LOVE! GOD BLESS YOU FOR SHARING!
I was in the UPC from around 8 yrs old to 21-22 ish. It is... I am still dealing with some of the spiritual repercussions of it. So much false doctrine, so much man-made rules and the worst part of it is even if you show them in the Word that what they believe is wrong, they will STILL not believe and continue to hold fast to their beliefs. They cannot be wrong about anything and if you don't agree with them, its YOU who needs to pray and ask God for more understanding. It's very cult like and hard to adequately explain to those who have not been through it. Thank God my fire for Him never died and He has brought me into a deeper, truer understanding of Him and His Word.
@@matrixbeastreloaded Acts 5:32b reads, ...and so also is the Holy Ghost, Whom God has given to them that obey Him.
Obey God and you have the Holy Spirit.
The gift of the Holy Spirit, that is tongues.
It is good to receive tongues, but many don't obey God and they speak in tongues.
Jesus died to deliver us from the power of sin and (eternal) death. And rose again so we could rise with Him into heaven on that day.
@@matrixbeastreloaded sorry but your mom is wrong The Holy Ghost will give you whatever gift he see fit and it might not be the gift of tongues
You just explained the differnce between religion and a personal relationship with Christ.
hm I feel it was more than that.
True religion is a relationship with Christ. Not this perverted stuff
MANY PREACHERS/ CHURCHES ARE ACTUALLY BIBLE BASED PREACHING. THE PROBLEM IS, THEY DON'T PRACTICE WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING. AND SOMETIMES THEY TWIST THE CONCEPT OR MEANING JUST TO JUSTIFY THEIR PRACTICES OR DOINGS! AND SOMETIMES THE MEMBERS BECOME SO DEPENDENT WITH THE PREACHER & THEY DON'T READ THE BIBLE THEMSELVES & BECOME FANATIC OF THEIR PREACHER, NO LONGER PRAISING JESUS BUT THEIR LEADER OR PREACHER.
In our Church mission, "Experience God, not Religion"
Churches are so bane these days
Person in authority: 'God told me to tell you such and such...'
Me: 'He didn't tell me.'
That’s why I left !!!! I’m close to God why is he telling you when I’m standing here !!! I left in the 80’s .
@@dianaaiello588 thanks for the comment. Have you read Costi Hinn's testimony, 'God, Greed, and the (Prosperity) Gospel' ?
@@marktyrrell7196 no I haven’t . Sound very interesting . I’ll have to look that up in Barnes and Noble .
Costi Hinn is related to Benny Hinn !! My mother gave him a lot of money for healing . Wow !!
@@dianaaiello588 more to the point, Costi Hinn is Benny Hinn's nephew. I lived in Toronto for a number of years, which is where the Hinn family had it's beginnings after migrating here from Israel.
I am going to add a new word to your vocabulary. PHAWG; stands for Prosperity Health And Wealth Gospel.
Furthermore, I have attended two healing meetings, fifteen years apart, in Montreal and Toronto respectively. I was not impressed.
He just described my entire childhood church experience! Thank GOD for leading me to biblical truth and a healthy church.
Me too! Finally got out and ended up in a church that is now a Word of Faith church. Once I married my husband, he got me away from it all. We went to a little country church for several years and now an independent Baptist church.
Even though I grew up in church, I didn’t begin growing spiritually until I entered my 20s. Praise the Lord for guiding me out of that stuff.
My life changed when I started reading the Bible! Thank you for this video!
That part… it’s crazy how many Christians don’t read or study the Word.
Reading the bible convinced me - that it is more jewish book than so called christian book - its all cope and paste - religious fairy tales.
@@claudiaschneider5744 😂😂😂
@@claudiaschneider5744 not true
The Holy Spirit taught me for 14 months…reading the Holy Bible while in jail & penitentiary
Anytime a church is hyper focused on anything other than staying true to God’s Word and God as the Authority... it raises red flags for me.
Leave the churches they are demon possessed. It's the falling away.
Agree 💯
@@gowest5145 Thank you! Exactly! If I could give you 10 👍🏿 I would. But they will fight you tooth and nail that this is not the case.
@@CS-dn8rd I agree. I attended a church like this a few times, and what struck me was the focus almost entirely being on titles (prophet, apostle, etc.) and gifts (tongues, laying on of hands, etc.) and music, music, music. During one sermon, a lady came and poured a bottle of olive oil down my back and ruined a favorite shirt. I didn't react and they seemed confused. I was ticked about that shirt after I got home, tho. ☹️😂
@@blackcatlady2172 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I bet you were teed off behind your shirt. They probably was trying to work their witchcraft on you pouring that oil down your back like that. The things they do and teach are NOT Scriptural!! Not one bit of it, from the pagan traditional celebrations and practices right down to the teachings. You present the Scriptures to refute the lies they are and have been taught, they call you the Devil instead of checking to see if what is being presented is actually true. I don’t even bother arguing with them. I offer the Scriptures to support the Bible truth. If they insist on holding on to the lie, that’s on them. They can’t say they weren’t told or warned🤷🏽♀️.
💎2 Thessalonians 2:10, 11
Most important take away is READ THE BIBLE for yourself and let the Holy Spirit teach you. Amen Brother.
Amen
+Dione
WHY then did GOD give teachers, pastor prophets and apostles to the CHURCH if we have NO need of them?
There is NO room for independence in the CHURCH of CHRIST - we are body 'fitly joined together' with each having a specific ministry to contribute. Without each other and GODLY leadership the church is ripe for occultism and deception.
"Most important take away is READ THE BIBLE for yourself and let the Holy Spirit teach you. Amen Brother. "
@@paulrobinson9318 Brother what are you talking about lol 😂. Did you watch the whole video brother in complete context? Brother Allen said he started to see what was happening in the Church Body didn’t line up with Scriptures and how he was young in his walk with The Lord and wasn’t aware of the things he described in the video. What did you watch lol 😂. No one said anything about not needing the 5 fold ministries given as a gift from Jesus 😊.
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Amen!!! Amen!!!!
You sir are a gem!
Being a minister myself, I have cried this cry for a long time (years)... Some many people misled...
Most of them so confident inand even proud about their "Spiritual Authorities" that they wouldn't even believe it if you showed them clearly in scriptures
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and for sharing your perspective Joseph Mayomi!
It really does have a cult-ish like influence over you where they control you. I went to a church like this for nearly 15 years!
These kinds of videos are the toughest to make but so highly important to make. Thank you Brother Allen for speaking about this. There is so much false teaching going on in the world and I'm thankful to GOD you had the courage to get away and speak about it. Blessings in Christ. 🙏🏻🕊💗
I almost got into a terrible car collision today but all thanks to the Almighty I made it through 🥺.
Praise God
Thank you, Lord! Drawing closer threatens the enemy! Stand firm and keep praying!
@@MsSoelia thank you 🤍.
@@reneeramoleta6262 glad you are ok.
I gave up driving just after conversion
Just by being on the road you could cause an accident!
“The modern church is producing passionate people with empty heads who love the Jesus they don’t know very well.” - Voddie Baucham
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VB is a Calvinist........ his opinion means nothing
@@frame3139 What does Voddie preach that is not biblical?
Well said.
@@frame3139 so if a Calvinist says Jesus is God it doesn't mean anything because he is a Calvinist?
I am born again Christian, I don’t speak in tongue but I know Theo received the Holy Spirit the minute I repented Jesus saved me from my sins, thank you for this video! God bless you! It is eye opening thank you Lord!✝️❤️❤️
Just bumped into a church me and my bf was uncertain with . We just could not pin point why we feel unsettled . I’m thankful to see this video cause we can relate and now we can move on peacefully.
Go to a church that actually teaches the Word. I go to a church where we go verse by verse in one book until we are done. It is spiritually sound as well. It’s almost similar to Baptist church.
@@1saamor897I go to a similar church as well. Sometimes they do a topic first thing, like Evangelism etc, but usually it's going through an entire book, so we have to read everything and aren't picking and choosing stuff to support a prechosen theme... You read everything, even the hard parts that might cause controversy.
I also hate the assumption that whenever you're struggling with something you automatically need exorcist type of deliverance from it
Yes!! One experience I had is when I went up for prayer. I had a woman put her hand forcefully on my head and tried to push me down. I resisted and she was like, "Fall down." As if she wanted me act like the Holy Spirit knocked me down. I just needed prayer for encouragement.
Same
@@DanaeLaurenTolbert1 Omg😂
Thank you.
indeed... or trying to tell you what is wrong with you etc etc... instead of encouragement and love.
My pastor always says “ Go where you grow.” And from that moment on I’ve respected him. He really is concern about your spiritual welfare.
Amen.My dad and the other pastors in our church say this often
Define grow?
@@dvsninja2 I would say, growth in discernment. Pastors say things like this...I wish they would just stick to their job, and teach the word of God...all of it!
"5/30/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior
The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy
For The Lord’s Little Flock, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear
Thus says The Lord: I have bestowed many gifts upon this generation, and lo, the small of My flock have received knowledge and revelation beyond compare. Yet I ask you, who has truly received? Who has been humbled by My words and given thanks? Who among all these scattered flocks has taken joy in My gifts? Beloved, who among this great multitude seeks out My will, to know it? And who, among all these so-called believers, takes pleasure in My Law, saying, “I delight to do Your will, O God, for Your Law is written in my heart”?[1]
Yet My people remain foolish, and this little flock envious. For I tell you the truth: Unrighteous jealousy is the companion of fools. For those who envy also grab hold of jealousy, walking hand in hand with covetousness. Beloved, there is but One who sees, One who knows, only One who searches the hearts and minds - I AM HE. How is it then that My people sit in judgment, judging My Word and My will, resisting My ways as they look upon others with contempt? Shall you also seek to ascend above The Most High?! Shall you sit upon My throne?! For I tell you the truth, each time you sit in judgment and question My ways, you walk in satan’s aspirations; you follow in his footsteps![2]
And when I bless another, why do you not take joy in it? And when I correct you, why do you resist and question My ways? Am I not The Lord? Do I not give to each according to their faith, according to that which I see in their heart? Why do you in your arrogance set a line for Me to follow, or think within yourselves there must be a better way? And how is it you continually compare yourselves amongst yourselves, knowing this is unwise?[3] Beloved, I have prepared a place for you! Therefore offer up thanksgiving, and cease from your complaints. Forgive and bless, let go and obey, love one another and wash each other’s feet. Take joy in all I do, especially in that which I bestow upon another. And when I feed you, eat from your own plate and give thanks.
Little flock, it is the last hour, yet many of you have stepped backward. Let it be known to you: One who treads the path, going up and down, stepping on and off at their convenience, treads not the path, but is like one who treads water. By no means shall they be able to keep their head above water, nor shall their strength deliver them in the Day of Troubles.
Therefore heed My words, and also do them;
Be wise in your dealings with Me,
Humble yourselves and remember...
Blessed are those who run to Me,
For they shall be blessed in My presence;
Even more blessed are those who run to Me,
Then obey My Word, for their blessing
Is complete and they are at peace...
Deliverance they shall surely know...
Says The Lord."
www.thevolumesoftruth.com/Delight_in_the_Ways_of_The_Lord
You can only grow where you are planted.
As an eight year old Baptist kid, I went to every VBS in town, just like all the other Protestant kids. The Pentecostal church VBS was the best, hands down! On Saturday night, families came to a short service followed by our "graduation." My sixteen-year-old brother had taken me. Shortly after the sermon began, a chunky teenager fell down in the aisle and it looked like he was having a seizure; people started shouting, blabbering and waving their arms. This threw me into sensory overload and I ran to the car! Moments later, my brother caught up with me. We sat in the car, both shaken, and he thanked me for running off, giving him a valid reason for running out of there too!
Lol! I have sympathy for ya!
Thank you for this video. A friend invited me to her church for a revival. While the congregation was actively in worship, all these people began to speak in tongues. They then started to push people who began to fall, and I became super skeptic. I guess my face showed my skepticism as my friend asked me if I was afraid, and all I could tell her was that I wasn't use to this type of behavior. Needless to say, I left before the preaching even began and my heart told me it was a circus not a revival. Spiritual discernment is truly a gift and I thank the Lord everyday for this, because too many Christians fall for these charismatic churches and fail miserably at reading the Bible to gain spiritual discernment. Be blessed, brother and thank you.
Brother looks like he could be Denzel Washington’s brother. 😁 Preach bro. You have my full attention.
yeah denzel grew up in a pentecostal church
Omg I left crazy church like this.
@@petert9660 oh wow he’s Pentecostal? I grew up Pentecostal but honestly don’t consider myself anymore because I’ve seen the same things and felt the same pressures he’s felt to have these gifts. The whole shaking and tapping of my head or pushing. It’s horrible.
I was saying that😮
@@mimi_j ive been to pentecostal churces and i personally never felt any pressure because i know how to say no
I’ve been to a church where a lady called me up and “prophesied” over me and then literally tried to push me to the floor to try to “slay me in the spirit”. I wouldn’t fall and she started pushing more aggressively. I ended up just going into prayer and asking God to reveal the falsehood that was taking place.
Wow, embarassing!
OMG THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!! Jesus! The pastor was trying to make me fall but I wouldn’t and he just got more aggressive! SMH the foolery is so real! 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
That's so scary
I went to a so-called holiness church. The so-called preacher called me up and started prophelying to me. He then laid his hands on my head and pushed back on my neck trying to slay me in the so-called spirit.
The more he pushed the more I just walked backward. He pushed harder and all that happened was my neck was sprained. I didn't know better. I could have sued him for malpractice. I dont know if he's still preaching. I hope not!
This happened recently to me when a man was praying over me for deliverance. He was pushing his hand on the back of my neck. I had to tell him to stop.
At age 14 I started asking all the questions your answering. I’m 31 now and believe me it is hurtful for everyone to make them think if you don’t fall or talk in tongues you don’t have the holy spirit. Love you content brother 👏👏👏
It's hyper sensationalism, clearly making merchandise out of gullible Believers, leading them astray.
This is so true but so sad may our Lord Jesus Christ set us free from this deception.
My wife and I were 35 years in the Charismatic movement. I praise God that we are now free from this demonic deception.
Was it Assemblies of God church?
35 years. Are you kidding? You're poor wife with you as her spiritual leader. Jeez.
@@hereiam2942Praise be to God that they were able to make it out and see the truth. Nobody is perfect and we all try our best. 🙏🏽
The Bible literally has all the answers, READ IT.
ALL the answers, sis!!
@Tom Servo what about the parts where Jesus says if you believe in him you are set free no matter race or country you are from if you read the Bible you would understand that the New testament is different from the old testament and the only people that had God's blessing and that God was for was the people of Israel from the old covenant but you wouldn't know that cuz you just want to say God is racist and he's a slave owner I'll pray for you
@Tom Servo ignorant
@@tsafaith Pray
Y'all read it, it helps you to have stronger faith in God and all the answers are there
Whenever he said “unhealthy” I thought to myself “unbiblical”
That’s what he means :)
Same.
Pretty much same difference.
Lol I know guys, I reckoned he was being polite. I don’t beat around the bush though.
When he said “unhealthy” I thought to myself “abusive!”
I love what you are doing on your channel. Dispensing Biblical truth and wisdom. Keep pressing on my dear brother in Christ.
I attended a hyper charismatic church for years, and have witnessed and experienced all of the doctrines you described. Thank you for an excellent video, and for sharing your personal experiences. I would love to share this teaching with some friends who are still caught up in hyper charismatic churches.
From my personal walk with Christ, I came to realize that there is nothing called a perfect church that practices a perfect doctrine, Each church have their own flaws.
Agreed 👍
This is the best comment of all. Only God knows the ❤️
That’s because the Church is us, the people and we are imperfect sinners.
Absolutely! There is no perfect church . God looks at your heart !
The topic at hand isn’t about perfect and imperfect churches. It’s about churches that endeavor to be spiritually, emotionally and physically wholesome healthy safe and trustworthy stewards of God’s word as opposed to abusive, unhealthy and unsafe churches who are reckless with God’s word.
"I started reading my Bible." BINGO!
In my previous church my pastor told me that I was not allowed to read the Bible at home with close friends because it was too dangerous without a church leader!! I was not allowed to pray with them either. He said that all teaching and “prayer meetings” had to be in the church.
I eventually confronted my pastor. I share what happened - in a new series which I have just created. If you are interested you can see this on Lion of Fire Ministries 🦁🔥
Bless you, Matt
@@lionoffireministries Oh wow. So sad for the folks who are not praying , fasting and reading their Bible.
Very good teaching! The scriptures are twisted and I didn't know it. I ended up torn and broken 💔 but HalaluYAHUAH I found TRUTH!
@@dianneladydianne praise God! He feeds those who hunger for truth and righteousness!
God bless you!
Thank you for this video. The slain in the Spirit “Bonus Round” is hilarious 😂
My goodness you hit every nail on the head! Now looking back I can see how oppressed I was in my beginnings. Thank God he gave me and my husband the vision to leave. God bless you!
Amen again.. God is not impressed by our emotions. He is impressed by our OBEDIENCE to HIS Holy Spirit.
Well said , totally biblical !
Obedience to the Holy Spitir INCLUDES our emotions.
It's ungodly to ignore the personality that God gave us.
The WHOLE man is sanctified, not divided.
The concept of ignoring the emotions is ungodly.
@@paulrobinson9318 if we are relying ( note key word relying) on our emotions then we cannot please God. Search the scriptures my friend.
+@@lesley1876
NO ONE is claiming that we RELY on their emotions - BUT if you have food you cannot taste - you can swallow poison as well as nutrients - same with your emotions.
Religion you CANNOT feel is like FOOD you CANNOT taste.
BUT are we to IGNORE them? GOD gave US emotions to reflect HIS emotions and honor and rejoice with Him - ignoring our emotions is sin.
The breakdowns and distance of those that ignore their emotions is deadly both PHYSICALLY and SPIRITUALLY.
I was raised by such a Father.
" if we are relying ( note key word relying) on our emotions then we cannot please God. Search the scriptures my friend."
Try reading the SCRIPTURES WITHOUT coming across verse after verse about EMOTIONS. YOU cannot ignore that GOD made us emotional beings - Isaiah 66 even attributed emotion to TREES, in God's Presence.
Emotions are a GIFT from GOD, that is to be treasured - NOT ignored.
@@paulrobinson9318 so you have only misinterpreted my comment to suit what you wished to interpret. You could have asked me to elaborate. I merely made that comment in direct response to the speakers message.
I'm still cringing up to this day whenever I remember the times I "forced" myself to be "spiritual," i.e. forcing myself to get lost in speaking of tongues. I'm just thankful that God opened my eyes.
I get it. As a teen I went to church religiously and attended plenty conventions. I wanted so badly for god to use me! I just wanted to be at least half of the women my mother is. I couldn't bring myself to fake it. If I thought I could pull it off i probably would have. However it felt me feeling like something was wrong with me. I couldn't understand it because I was the model adolescent but I thought maybe I was defective. Still do sometimes...
Wow I just see I was in so much in deception
The grace of God is limitless
It's okay! We humans tend to be so harsh on our past selves.
If all of these things are going on in churches and all these people are reporting basically the same things they have experienced and are experiencing, It says a lot about these churches. These are signs that folks need to get out of them…Get out of Babylon…Get out of her before it is too late.
Excellent, my brother, you are 'spot on'. I attended a church where the head Pastor told us to take up the offering AFTER the song service when the people are very emotionally charged so that they will give a lot of money into the offering!
Allen,..you’ve explained (testified) so well,…I pray people will listen! Thank you✝️🥰
The Benny Hinn reference took me out!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I totally agree with this video! I've experience a few of these especially the speaking in tounges one.
Benny Hinn's daughter and his son in law run Jesus School. Another money maker. 💰 Benny Hinns nephew, Costi, apparently repented and is a pastor at a church in Arizona. But I'm afraid that I don't trust him and all of these people have many followers.
What's wrong with speaking in tongues that's a gift from God
@@mariawilliams9534 I never said anything was wrong with it. Im saying I agree with what he said about it. From my experience in church ppl make it seem like you are more spiritual when you do. You can speak in tounges and still be full of hate or struggle with sin. It is a gift. Some pll have it and some don't. It is important to have an interpreter.
I'm just saying that cause there are some churches that don't allow speaking in tongues the only thing I can say about this video is that we have to get discernment from God the only one we should look up to is God not man and folks get understanding if your church does anyone of these things this brother is mentioning flee from them get out among people like that God bless you all
Same😄
The fact that you grew in Christ while attending a charismatic church is a testament to your commitment to Jesus, and God's faithfulness and grace.
That sounds like a cult not charismatic. That’s really overboard
@@ellengrieco1702 many cults hide under the guise of churches I believe in spiritual gifts but it should never compromise morals in the faith.
And speaking in tongues is merely one of a number of gifts which a person can potentially have.
Please see 1st Corinthians chapter 12.
@@ellengrieco1702 In theory or by definitiion, any church can be described as a "cult". In true Christian circles the definition of a cult is a church that teaches a distorted gospel which doesn't win souls to Christ nor salvation toward it's members. We tolerate small differences, among them, gifts of the Spirit, tongues, full immersion Baptism, etc., but we draw the line at outright heresies. Jesus did criticize leaders who made bigger issues of little details and ignored the more important ones. He also emphasized not to ignore the smaller ones either. Anyway, not trying to criticize your comment but just bringing to light just where that seemingly "thin line" is, separating the goats from the sheep. Might just be there are both in every church.
You covered everything I went through. My family and I stop going to church about 5 yrs ago and go to a friend’s bible study and have learned a lot in the bible me study than at the church.. Hello somebody!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Ursula I understand where you're coming from but then you ought to GO TO A CHURCH in respect to what the Bible commands (Hebrews 10:25).
♥️♥️ support @ursula yulis
@@ngalahansel6066 Church means gathering of people, the Bible study is literally how churches were in the Bible
@@daisiesandpandas1218 my point exactly. During COVID we were worshipping in homes and that was 'church'. I'm not referring to a building if that's what you mean.
Thanks for sharing your story brother - I appreciate how balanced your approach is… emotional health is such an important part of healthy spirituality. Many people speaking from a past similar to yours are speaking truthfully but they don’t speak from a place of healing… You honor where people are on the journey (even yourself) while still acknowledging what’s unhealthy. Powerful.
Wow wow wow! I literally JUST mailed a letter a couple of weeks ago to my Pastor to withdraw my membership from a church that is SO similar to what you described. After nearly 14 years, the Lord led me out! There is true freedom when you can truly worship Him in spirit and truth. Thank you for sharing this video... it is so important.
And in what kind of church are you now in?
@@dv4740 one that teaches the Word and also has the love of Christ!
@@encouragingword799Well I hope they are teaching you Bible truths such as Jesus Christ, the Son of God
💎Hebrews 4:14 is not our Almighty God
💎Genesis 17:1; 35:11 NO TRINITY Doctrine. Hope they are not teaching “The Rapture”. Hope they are not teaching the “Once save always saved”. Hope they are not engaging or celebrating pagan holidays that have infiltrated Christianity are are rooted in paganism (ex: Christmas, Easter, Valentine’s Day and a bunch of others). God punished the Israelites for false worship that went against his law in the Old Testament.🤷🏽♀️ Just saying. If teachings and worship aren’t Scriptural, you may want to reevaluate where you worship. These churches maybe different but the teachings are misleading the masses to their destruction🤷🏽♀️ just saying. Let those with ears listen. Warning to the wise
@@CS-dn8rd If they teach there is no Trinity doctrine ( where Father , Son and Spirit are separate entities, yet One God) , they are a cult. The Trinity is doctrinally and biblically correct.People are in danger if they are in a non-Trinitarian organization.
I John 5:7 There are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost; and these three are One.
@@CS-dn8rd Pride
The street fighter edit had my dying!!! 😂😂😂
Me too😂😂😂😂
I was laughing so hard that my kids came running to see what had happened 😂 That part was hilarious 😂
I laughed so hard!!!
Didn't get it 'till I got to that part🤣
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🌈Your story is common among controlling cults. Good description. This should strike true in the hearts truth seekers, liberating them from false groups. Thank you, Bro Allan.💥
I really enjoyed and was blessed hearing your testimony. I am 68 years old and experienced the same situation. My testimony is identical in that by reading my Bible i ask God to show me the truth and he did.
I pray that God continue blessing you in his word.
Thank you!
If something doesn't feel genuine , then it's ur instinct warning u to stay away....nothing should ever be forced...God is about trust , faith and love , that's the type of feeling a real holy church should feel like in my opinion....
Same, I feel like a church should feel like a home, almost like your tribe that you’ve been separated from but you found again if you know what I mean. My old church didn’t really feel that way which is why I stopped going. And some people although they may genuinely feel as though God is working through them or something some people just cannot be trusted. If I feel kind of weirded out by somebody or have doubts I kind of take that as a warning to not believe everything they say right away
Hi guys, I literally just left a church like this and it’s been very hard for me. I made a lot of friends there and my walk with the Lord grew as a result, but I know I cannot compromise my spiritual health being there anymore. Please pray for me during this time.
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Same boat, let us pray for each other🙏
Will pray for ya
I’m going through this too. I feel like I’m missing out but I made my decision based on the word of God. Let’s keep each other in prayer
I've been to a church like this too. They have a special place in my heart because they were my first fellowship when I knew about God in my teens. I hope you find a church that you know will help you grow in truth. God bless you and I hope you are well today.
Oh yes I just recently left my church but my husband is still in it. I pray that he wakes up and see what's really going on.
I never realized how much you have been through and overcome in the lord. Thank you for sharing. Now I don't feel so alone In all the persecution I've suffered
You just confirmed EVERY SINGLE THING I was feeling about a particular church. Reading the word of God is what solidified to me that what they were doing wasn't right.
Jesus speaks to all that are saved through His Word as they are led by the Holy Spirit
This really resonates with me. I experienced EVERYTHING you've experienced! I could have literally written everything you've said. I walked away from the craziness of it all in my early twenties. I've just reconnected with God in my forties but I'm definitely going to be more discerning when choosing a church. God bless you.
Fantastic this Allen, especially the little treat at the 10 minute mark for those who've watched it right through! 😅I went to a dodgy Charismatic church for 2 years just because it was on my doorstep abnd people in my village appeared to be getting saved so I wanted to be a part of it. Many sadly fell away shortly after and I don't know if they were truly saved.
Churches be more wild than a theme park sometimes
Some of them have actual theme parks in them 🤦🏿♂️
Not a theme park😂😂😂
Testify
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Haha
I can relate with you, I was in a church like that for 5 years in my country. In 2021 October I had the courage to leave that church... but it took a lot from me, it drained me emotionally and mentally. Here I am still trying to recover. I thank God you were brave enough to walk away. Be blessed.
I know exactly what u mean...
Excellent message! The "slain in the spirit" part had me laughing so hard LOL
You are bringing back so many memories. It took me so long to heal from the experience.
It can be tough to find a church community that has the right focus and priorities, but it's so incredibly important for us to be connected in community.
"And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near." Hebrew 10:24-25
Agreed! I've recently moved to the DMV. I am having hard time finding a church home.
Indeed bro
So true, brother. I am sad to say that I have not been in church physically for a year. And I was serving on the worship team in production booth. I just have unanswered questions.
That's my dilemma now. But in the meantime, my family and I from different places in a different city gather on the phone in a big conference call to discuss a passage relevant to what's currently going on in life. Then we pray. I thank God I can do that now. I've actually gotten so much stronger than just sitting listening to one pastor. Each family member has an opportunity to share what's on their heart if they choose to.
@Julian Ruth Brother Julian just to let you know that I came home 20 years ago and still steadfast in THE WORD. See THE ALMIGHTY GOD is trying to bring HIS CHURCH back to the norm .When you read the books to the churches you will notice it will end by saying (church in the house of ) these buildings started with Constitute and were never ment for the Gentiles but for the Jews as you notice the brother read out of Hebrews. O brother study yourself approved read and keep on reading your Bible. !!!
This is the problem with the charismatic movement: there is an almost pagan emphasis on experience. When emotion takes control of you, your mind shuts down. The bible says the fruit of the spirit is self control, discernment. The law says love God with all your mind, not all your feelings. Your mind must rule over your feelings, not the other way arround.
I agree with you.Try to figure this one out.I once volunteered to be a catcher at a charasmatic church when the minister was laying hands.Where they told me to stand no person every came up to have hands laid on them so when the minister walked by me he didn't see anyone and went to the next person.The minister never saw me because I was standing a few feet back with other catchers.My knees buckled and I went down like a wet noodle.I laid there on the floor with the most awesome feeling of peace.Iam not an emotional man and have a very intimidating presence because of my size and look.I was just a construction worker who went to church with a young lady who asked me to go.God is good.
@@uncledodad I'm sure your experience was wonderful. However, there was nothing biblical about it. We don't ever see any of the apostles do this. This is a purely modern invention. More importantly, the important thing is not how this made you feel, the important thing is: Was Gods full council preached purely? Demons are just as capable of giving you a feeling of peace, in fact, most pagan religions often involve sensual experiences. The peace that God gives is not a fleeting feeling, it is to stand in the right relationship with Him through Christ.
@@Hannodb1961 I have belonged to charismatic churches where the emphasis was on the Word of God. Being slain in the spirit is not a modern invention. Look up the history of many revivals and you will see people falling out in the spirit. Ezekiel fell out when he saw a likeness of the glory of the Lord. John fell out when he saw the Lord when on the island of Patmos. Also, have you had an experience of peace from a demon? Doesn't Jesus say that a house divided against itself will not stand? Peace is a fruit of the spirit, not a fruit of the evil one. To call it sensual and dismiss it is to dismiss the fruit that Jesus brings. Further, discernment is not listed as a fruit of the spirit but rather a gift of the spirit and it is specifically a discernment of spirits. People often confuse it with wisdom but it is the ability to discern when something is demonic or out of line with scripture. And if I'm not mistaken the word says to love the Lord with all you heart, mind, and strength. God is an emotional being as well as mighty and infinite and we are made in His image. How can you worship with just your mind? The heart needs to be involved as well.
@@gwenwittaker5145
_I have belonged to charismatic churches where the emphasis was on the Word of God._
I can't help notice that you've placed that in the past tense. Why have you left?
_Being slain in the spirit is not a modern invention. Look up the history of many revivals and you will see people falling out in the spirit. Ezekiel fell out when he saw a likeness of the glory of the Lord. John fell out when he saw the Lord when on the island of Patmos_
Uhm, is it really necessary to point out the enormous category error here? Ezekiel and John fell on the ground because they came face to face _with the Living God_ , not with a flashy preacher slapping them with his jacket. To even suggest those two things are the same borders on blasphemy. Show me where in Acts did the Apostles ever "slay people with the spirit", causing them to fall down.
_Also, have you had an experience of peace from a demon?_
Have you never met a Buddhist? Their entire religion is about being at peace, but what does Paul say? Those who worship idols worship demons. Satan is the great liar, the one who "disguises himself as an angel of light". Are you seriously suggesting that Satan is unable to give people a false sense of peace?
_Doesn't Jesus say that a house divided against itself will not stand?_
How is deception "dividing Satan against himself"? Deception is what the kingdom of Satan is build on.
_Peace is a fruit of the spirit, not a fruit of the evil one._
Peace is not a feeling, it is a state of mind. Peace is something you have every moment of every day. Not only when some crazy self appointed cult leader hits you with his jacket. Peace is what you have even when the Romans throw you to the lions.
_Further, discernment is not listed as a fruit of the spirit but rather a gift of the spirit_
And you think there is a difference, because.....
In Romans 12:2, Paul _commands_ Christians to discern the will of God. This is something _all_ believers need to do. In Galathians 22-23, it says one of the things the Spirit produces is _self-control_ - which is the exact opposite of what happens when people "get slain by the spirit".
_and it is specifically a discernment of spirits_
No, it is a discernment of the will of God. Yes, we must discern between spirits, but we must discern first and foremost between right and wrong.
_People often confuse it with wisdom but it is the ability to discern when something is demonic or out of line with scripture._
Like when pagan practices of sensualism and mysticism enters the church at the expense of sound rational exegesis of God's Word?
_And if I'm not mistaken the word says to love the Lord with all you heart, mind, and strength_
Actually, in the ancient Hebrew understanding, the heart was the seat of your thoughts. The kidneys were thought of as the seat of your emotions. The idea of the heart being the seat of your emotions is a modern, western construct, not an ancient Hebrew one. And you'll notice that kidneys was not listed there. Likewise, we are commended to have self control. That means, we are controlled by our minds, not our feeling. Also, when you page over to 1 Cor 13, you'll find the Biblical definition of love. Warm and fuzzy feelings - though a product of love - is not definitional of love. Love is a verb, not a feeling. I can assure you, Jesus felt no warm and fuzzy feelings on the cross as he cried out: "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?"
_How can you worship with just your mind? The heart needs to be involved as well
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I never said we should worship him without feelings. But those feelings must brought under control. It must flow from sound theology, and it must never take control of us. Ofcause I feel joy when I sing the Psalms, but its not a mindless joy, it is a joy that flows from the contemplation of the depth of the lyrics in the Psalms. It is joy rooted in knowledge. And even though I feel joy, I never loose control of my body and falls to the ground. Nowhere in the New Testament do you ever see this happen in the ministry of the apostles.
@@Hannodb1961 Very well said.
Love your videos. My wife and I have experienced the same issues. It’s unfortunate some churches has become this way with no checks and balances. It’s truly leading people down the wrong path!
I attended a very similar church and when the Pastor said, “when you are in my house you do what I say, right? “ I walked out right away.
I rewound and watched the "Round 1....FIGHT!" probably too many times, but I can't help it, that was FUNNY!
Yeah dude I needed a double take as well lol
I have tears in my eyes!!!
Me too , hilarious 😂
Altho not really , as it really is a mockery of the holy spirit , but funny to us who are mocking those who mock the holy spirit. Hope that made sense 🙏
Same 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to say that video edit of people being “slain by the holy spirt” is perfect😂😂
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Really I thought it was an over exaggeration! I went to a charismatic catholic service on Thursday nights back in the nineties. It was not as exaggerated as all that. I know it’s hard to believe that in a Catholic Church but of course it was only on a weekday. The person that invited me said it takes awhile to get use to. It should never take awhile, if it doesn’t feel comfortable... it’s not good! It did not take me years to figure it out. I was out of there in a matter of weeks. One of the people told me to practice speaking in tongues to just start making sounds.... No! If it’s a gift you don’t have to practice.... this might be humorous but still very much exaggerated!
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Hadouken! Shoryuken! 😆🤣
Lol
Thank you for educating me in the word of God even the more based upon things that I have seen for myself. ✝️❤️✝️
Yeah,the pressure to be slain in the Spirit was something I endured for years. My previous church did not have all these signs, but this was definitely one. Also pressure to jump up and run around the pews to show you were responding to the Spirit.
Well.. this seems to be confirmation for me. I have been attending a new church for a couple months and things are not adding up for me. I thought it was great at first.. I JUST got done praying and asking God to give me a sign that it's not the place for me.. and this is the first thing I see when I get on RUclips just now. Thank you for posting this!
Praying for you to find a Bible-based church! Ive just left a similar church and taking intentional steps to find a reliable church home.
Sunday worshippers will always be church hopping. These denominations are not in line with God's commandments. Therefore, only evil spirits, (in the form of speaking tongues) pastors and Prophets that are in these places.
@@bassman8564 hey man read Romans 14 Sunday worship would be wrong if a person were worshipping a day but meeting on the first day of the week to worship the one true God is awesome.
Sunday aka '1st day' is seen as the most special day of the week to gather together in communal worship, for me it's so and for you it's obviously not, but as stated already Read Romans 14 Christians are free to worship all week long and they are also free to consider Sunday to be an extra special day to gather to worship.
Other believers consider Saturday to be the best day to gather like many Israeli believers do. Anyway your statement that Sunday worshippers hop around churches holds no weight..some may of course, but I guess with cults who see Sunday worshippers as evil it's less hoping around as they'd be a lot less local likedoctrined congregations to choose from.
I hope you manage to read Romans 14 and Colossians for your self.
@@aldandrea hey, the problem with all Sunday worshippers, they misunderstand Paul's writings to their own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15-16) Turning them into another gospel. (Gal 1:6) You worship the Creator in VAIN when you set aside ANOTHER day for worship. For the tradition of Sunday worship is given by Satan, through man and not the Creator. (Mark 7:7-9) The Father said he sanctified, made HOLY the Seventh-day unto himself.(Ex 16:22) NOT EVERYDAY. Is Romans 14 saying you CAN esteem any day OVER the DAY the FATHER has given us? God forbid. For the 4th commandment of SIN would have no effect. Which says Remember to keep MY DAY HOLY. (Is 58:13) If God has chosen A day unto himself for worship and MADE it a LAW, why do you keep another, committing a SIN in the process? (1 John 3:4) You guys have spin, twisted Paul's writings to be contrary to the words of the Father and the Son. Worthy to be avoided. (Rom 16:17) To the point where you refuse to keep HIS DAY and eat UNCLEAN foods. A recipe for earthly and heavenly destruction of your body and soul. As if all that the Father has put in place for the goodness of mankind, is now changed. FAR FROM IT. Because the Father said; "I change NOT." (Mal 3:6)
Sunday, 1st first day of the week, is seen by the many Christ speaks of, to be entering the wide gate on to the Broad Road to destruction. (Matt 7:13) But only a few, obeying God's commands, will find the straight and narrow path unto life.
(vs 14)
The weight on Sunday church hoppers, is very heavy. From this forum to personal experience. I've seen many on this path. Being restless, trying to find a home in Christ. For every time they get comfortable in one, the Father exposes them in their FALSEHOOD. Not realising that staying in your Dwellings away from these places, on the GIVEN day by the Father, is the key to finding God's truth, reading the scriptures. (Lev 23:3) Which would keep you away from lying pastors and false prophets. Subsequently marking yourself to the MOST HIGH. (Ez 20:20) But the thing about this controversy, there is NO scripture that has changed the HOLY DAY from the 7th to the 1st. ONLY history will show this to be by the RCC. And if you fail to acknowledge this, then your mind is seared as if with a hot iron with FALSE doctrines. (1 Tim 4:1-2) And your soul will be lost as a result. But the conclusion to this WHOLE matter, is to "fear God and keep His commandments: for THIS is the WHOLE DUTY of MAN." (Ecc 12:13)
I pray you have ears to hear and Eyes to see the deception that you are a part of. Peace.
@@bassman8564 wow that was a reply that must have taken time to put together!
For keeping Shabbath' for salvation you would have to keep the whole old testament law and I just don't think Bassman that you are keeping the whole old testament law as for one and you can't as there is no Jewish temple performing all the required sacrifices. Even if there were a temple no one can be saved by keeping the law. Romans 3:20 and Galatians 3:11!
Also if keeping the Jewish 'Shabbath' were a requirement for salvation then the NT would be extremely clear about it. Instead rather we have Romans 14 and Colossians 2:16 for starters!
AL.
I Chris will confess I once fell down just to fit in with the crowd around me that was also falling down. I repent of that sin of peer pressure. Amen
Same here brother.
You're not alone friend.
I feel you.I did it to really really feel one day.Never did.
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We met a lad who was asking questions one night as we spoke about Holy Spirit etc. And when he said something i pointed at him and said but you fell!!? He said no he faked it. We shook our heads and told him you missing the point. Its not about falling at all. 😂
Great video. Thanks for sharing! This resonates with how I felt many times and because of relationships it was very difficult to leave.
Thank you for keeping it real, brother. 🙏🏽✝️💜
Extremely relatable. I had a very similar journey with leaving a charismatic church after diving deeper into the Scriptures. I’m grateful for much of what I learned from charismatics in terms of intimacy with God, prayer, fasting, and worship. But many other things needed to be UNlearned after leaving. Grateful for your story brother. Hoping it helps many who are feeling on the fence about leaving their church.
You articulated this so well; I’ve had the same experience.
The unlearning has been been hard for me! Leaving a Church like this and whew...
I love your Music Chris🥺
Dr Charles Stanley is one of my favorite teachers. He doesnt shout or scream and Doesn't take up most of the time singing. He teaches for like a full hour. And uses a lot of Scripture
Yesss I love me some Dr Charles Stanley. The daily devotions changed my life.
Dr Stanley has helped me in ways he'll never know! Love charles stanley 💗
@@Kelly_Silverman yes we need more like him hes so soft spoken and gentle and teaches very well. Jesus preached like that I believe. I can't imagine jesus shouting and screaming to teach. He told the truth with love and confidence
@SiriE I truly love j vernon mcgee.. I'm learning so much thru his studies!!
Absolutely. Love listening to him..
A M E N! OMG thank you so much for this! It’s so important that we take things back to the Bible. Thank you
i was just baptized at 20 years old in a pentecostal church and seeing this video has helped me come to a conclusion about some things i've wondered. i go to a very small church (under 50 people who come each week) and i'm very thankful that none of the things you've said related to the church i go to besides some initial pressure to receive the gift of speaking in tongues.
but my pastor has explained that he went to a conference for pastors and has been preaching more over the past few months about ALL of the spiritual gifts. this is why he's encouraging us to explore them if you feel like speaking in tongues has been difficult or you feel connected to God in a different way. he even said that forcing it will only make your relationship with God worse because you're not being true to yourself. he's an amazing pastor and is so selfless to the point where he doesn't make any income from the church; he does it because he wants us all to have Jesus in our hearts.
regardless though, i've been to conferences where i've been physically pushed to fall over or someone was yelling in my face to speak in tongues. personally, i have sensory issues and this prevented me from feeling the spirit while i was there. i'm glad you were able to leave the church and you continued your journey with God! may He bless you in everything :)
Sounds like your pastor is coming closer to scriptural truth, but you may need to avoid other elements of that church. Word to the wise: Much tongue speaking is phony mumbo jumbo
Oh, by the way, I left the charismatic movement also. They started seeking the gifts and experiences more than God.
For as much as they talk about the Holy Spirit, most of them are actually very "human-driven."
The gifts and experiences come from seeking God.
The gifts ONLY come from serving God and getting closer to Him. Do you think God is going to give gifts to those who don't submit to His will. You grow in God, it's like a spiritual education. He emparts more gifts the more He can trust you with them as well.
@@TheAlexWilliams Exactly.
Doubtful but ir can happen
But you DO know Paul wrote to SEEK EARNESTLY - is that not what you are critiquing?
Do you know more than Paul?
I do believe in the gift of tongues, my husband speaks in tongues, but my mother-in-law believes that you’re not saved unless you speak in tongues. I sought this gift for many years under lots of pressure, but then God showed me that I was just seeking it to get her approval and acceptance. God really did set me free from the pressure and feeling that I wasn’t enough without this gift, and that I am accepted because Jesus’ blood covers me and my righteousness is in Him.
Christi, the Bible also says that not every BELIEVER speaks in tongues. So you’re good. You’re saved
I was baptized 6 years again and my pastor tried forcing me to speak in tounges I refused to fake it after a year of being pressured to speak in tounges I left I would sit by myself with my kids no one really shook my hand nor made me feel welcomed after 3 years it was pretty sad when I would sit back and actually watch how a church I once loved actually treated people I would watch the pastor wink his eye at certain people all of a sudden they would bust out speaking tounges well I should say fake tounges my husband said he received the holy ghost as a child and spoke in tounges at home praying with his mom in the kitchen he said no one can tell you oh you have the holy ghost oh yes they're speaking in tounges he said when it actually happens to you it's a feeling you never felt before and you just don't snap out of it !
Where does it say not all will speak in tongues?
1 Corinthians chapters 12 - 14
@@courtneymoore7160 1 Corinthians 12:30
Oh, man! The clips with being slain were hilarious!
I've experienced so much of this. I'm glad you're so honest about your journey. Thanks!
Omg!!! I needed this. Transitioning from my church
Wow just found your channel!! I have just left a church that was like this after 3 years and I am glad my family and I are no longer apart of this cult. It was very unhealthy and mentally draining. Thank you Lord for opening my spiritual eyes!
Yes, draining...
On my heart to share what Jesus said 🙌🙏✨💛
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I have news for you. You are still in a cult.
Me too Hallelujah
So glad God led me to reading His word on my own! This explains my churches when I was younger
Amen, Kyle Jones, as a babe IN Christ over 4 decades ago, the Holy Spirit began to show me truth as I dug down and faiithfully read and studied my Bible! I walked out and never went back, thanks to the power of Jesus Christ! Who delivered me out of all of that demonic mishmash!!!
Thank you for this instruction. A close friend and I disagree on this topic, and it's nice to hear a mature response to this confusion.
This was like 90% my story. Thank you for sharing this!
Brother your experience with tongues is exactly how I felt growing up in church. “Second class citizen” explains it perfectly.
Maaaaan... 😆🤣😂 The Benny Hinn part had me dying. He said I just didn't feel like lying down. That's hilarious... 😆🤣😂
100% agree!😂
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Like.. I died🤣🤣🤣 when he was the last man standing.. so you mean the spirit didn't touch him?? I can't!!! I paused the video just to find this comment.
The Benny Hinn Tekken Bit got me. Thank you Allen.
9:50 lololol but 10:10 for the like!
Thank you for sharing your experiences, Allen!! I can definitely relate on some of the points you mentioned and I swear, the inner turmoil that this toxicity can wreak knows no bounds. 😮💨
The way you talk about the fear around leaving the church, that's exactly the same experience as people trying to leave a cult. Great video. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Unhealthy is an understatement.
"Abuse" fits a lot of the time...
I left the charismatic movement forty-eight years ago and never looked back. Thank you for your honesty in exposing false doctrines.
very very proud of you!
They are cults
Not all charismatic churches are false prophets etc can't really generalize them.
@@samanthaslade5969 It's still a free country, somewhat, but as for me and my house, I still say "no thank you". I refuse to be a part of anything that smacks of charismatic. I do love and pray that hearts and minds are open to Truth.
Realize that there are two different types of believers in this world. There are those who understand scripture and who are growing in the knowledge and the blessings of God and there are the believers who are deceived and who will remain in sin and sickness their whole entire lives. Sadly more then 95% of believers fall into the deceived category and this is why scripture relates that only a remnant will be saved.
“Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved.”
Romans 9:27 NKJV.
Scripture relates that if we are ignorant of God’s laws and commands then we are living in sin. Scripture also relates that sin will bring sickness and suffering into our life since sin and sickness is of the devil. So if you are someone who can get sick or you currently have an affliction in your life then you are definitely living in sin and you certainly have fallen for the devil’s many lies. Sin and sickness clearly reveals that you are a deceived believer since it proves that you did not allow the Holy Spirit to teach you how to overcome your sin.
“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:8 NKJV
Many are deceived because they foolishly believe that they can never stop sinning or overcome sickness in this lifetime and they deny the very blessing that Jesus provided for everyone through His sacrifice and the gift of His Holy Spirit. Others like Charismatics and Pentecostals are deceived because of their misguided interpretations of scripture and so they basically believe that they are apostles who are able to cast out demons. Most believers are so deceived that do not even understand the differences between a Believer, a Disciple, a Christian and a Apostle and so I will now explain.
First understand that every one of us is born in sin and in ignorance of God’s truth. EVERYONE! The problem with the majority of believers is that they will remain that way their whole entire lives since they are not comprehending what God related to us in scripture. Because they lack knowledge of scripture countless believers do not understand how to surrender their will to the Holy Spirit and so they never allow the Spirit to teach them how to overcome their sin and their sicknesses.
When you first repent of your sins and you accept Jesus into your life you are now a believer but you are still deceived and ignorant about scripture since you have never been sanctified in truth by the Holy Spirit. This is why a believer will still possesses sin and sickness in their life since they still lack knowledge in the word of God. This is also why a new believer must understand how to surrender their will to the Holy Spirit so the Spirt can now teach them how to stop sinning. This purification process is called sanctification and it can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4.
Sanctification will take years and it requires our faith, patience, suffering and endurance since the Holy Spirit teaches us how to overcome our sins. Once we learn how to overcome our sins we now have overcome our sicknesses since afflictions come from sin and the devil. Sadly the vast majority of believers never allow this process to occur since they are deceived in their beliefs and so they remain in their sin. Others will actually fall away during the sanctification process just as Judas certainly did and Jesus relates these various believers in the parable of the sower in Luke 8:11-15. There are not many believers who actually make it all the way through God’s sanctification process and this is why it is referred to as the narrow gate.
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV
If a believer does surrender their will to God’s purification process they now become a disciple since they are now learning scripture directly from Jesus Himself. Jesus will now teach His disciple how to live just as He did since He now dwells inside His true children. A disciple means “a student who learns from his teacher.” This is why scripture relates that Jesus is our one and only teacher and this is also why the vast majority of religions and preachers are nothing more then false prophets who are only leading believers astray.
It is during the sanctification process that the Holy Spirit teaches us how to live holy and righteously just as God commanded and He does this by showing us how to overcome our sins. Sanctification is kind of similar to what Jesus endured in the wilderness for 40 days since the Spirit has us confront the devil’s temptations head on. If you end up completing God’s purification process you are now a Christian who is sanctified in truth and you are a disciple of Jesus Christ who can no longer sin. This is when you are actually born again since a child born of God is someone who lives “exactly like Christ” and they no longer sin. This is how the term Christian came about since the original disciples lived exactly like Christ.
Most overlook how Jesus had to train his twelve chosen disciples for three years before they could become His apostles. An apostle means someone who is sent, a messenger. Many also overlook the prayer that Jesus made for His disciples in John 17:6-19 where He asked His Father to sanctify His disciples in truth. So the disciples had to be sanctified in truth before Jesus could use them as His apostles, His messengers. So an apostle is someone who is a messenger from God and they possess the power of God to prove their anointment.
Realize that God did not instruct us or command us to explain scripture to anyone but yet most are foolishly believing that it is their duty to try and lead others to Jesus. Many deceived believers do not understand that the Great Commission was for God’s chosen disciples who were trained by Jesus and who were sanctified in God’s truth. It was not meant for every believer of Jesus Christ to teach and that is simply a lie that is being fabricated by the devil’s many false ministers. So you might now begin to understand why the majority of believers are nothing more then children of the devil since they are ignorantly blaspheming the Spirit of truth when they willingly relate their misguided beliefs. These ignorant souls are simply spreading lies and condemning themselves since they were never taught scripture by Jesus nor where they sanctified in God’s truth.
“It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.”
John 6:45 NKJV
”My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.”
James 3:1-2 NKJV
Many believers are ignorantly believing that Jesus came to forgive our past, present and future sins. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue in a life of sin and then simply repent and God will forgive them over and over. This is why many believe that if they repent just before they die then Jesus will save their sinful soul. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can continue to steal and then simply repent. You can then lie and then repent. You can then murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and simply repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. This is simply nonsense that is fabricated by the devil to make you believe that you will always sin.
“Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Luke 5:31-32 NKJV
Jesus did not come to call on the righteous since a righteous person does not sin. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance which meant for sinners to stop sinning entirely and to start living holy and righteously just as God commanded. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and this occurs at the moment that we repent of our sins and we accept Jesus and His Holy Spirit into our life. We must then submit to God’s purification process and allow the Holy Spirit to sanctify our heart in God’s truth so that we could overcome the sin and the sicknesses that we possess in our lives. Once again this can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4.
So a Christian is someone who is sanctified in truth and they can easily discern a true Christian from a deceived believer in seconds since they now possess the mind of Christ and they are able to judge all things. They can no longer sin nor can they ever get sick since they are now born of God and the devil can no longer touch them with his afflictions. I am someone who has overcome sin and sickness in my own life and this is why God has me relating His blessings in my writings and in my videos
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
Man this was my entire life growing up and I'm so happy I got out
My wife and I watched this together and want to thank you for your thoughtful, gentle, biblical, and encouraging analysis of this kind of scenario.
I went to a church once and some leaders laid hands on me practically forcing me to be slain in the spirit. All that yelling, spittle, and bad breath. Chile I just fell out so I could breathe. True story.
Screammmmming💀💀💀
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my great grandpa said "they just passin' out cause of the preachers breath" UNPROVOKED 😂
Bad breath 🤣
Really
As a teenager, I was kicked out of a certain church for questioning most of these things that you mention...
What happened?
@@Baker4life777 For example I asked why they prayed in tongues loudly with no one to interpret. Or They would be people going to get loans to bring "Seed" to the house of God. And also the "Curses that followed you even after you are born again" - It didn't quite line-up with Scripture. I can't claim I know the Bible very well, but what I do is whenever anyone quotes a Bible verse, I go back home and study the whole chapter or the whole book so that I can understand the context for myself. I ended up buying a Bible Concordance and also subscribe to Bible commentaries. I stopped going to Church completely for 5 years just to get my mind cleared
@@Baker4life777 What happened eventually for me to be kicked out was they framed me saying I had an affair and sleeping with one brother like that and therefore I was not fit to be a part of the Choir or even be a part of their Church. The real reason is I challenged their doctrines which from understanding were just serving the purpose of those who were gaining from them financially.
Thank God you were discerning enough to know the truth!
@@deladyM I had a similar thing. Some people were spiritually competing. One spoke in tongues, the other did louder. One brought the color streams and danced, the other came back next week with longer more sparkling streams, one didn't show up the next week, the other started copying the gibberish tongues the other used last week etc. Bizarre
It’s been 6 years living in the freedom God has called us to after being in the Pentecostal charismatic movements for 29. It definitely was a hard decision and action to take but God through His word gave me the truth and courage to take that step. Thanks for sharing this message
Allen...love the way explain this and many other similar issues.
You are a blessing..thank you
This was my experience also. Too much "entertainment". I have found a smaller church that goes though the whole Bible, not just one verse.
Let me guess ....... was that verse Acts 2:38 ?
love that expository preaching! :)
Where is your church ?
@@melanierayworth4192 Tennessee
That’s because you were going to church to be entertained.
I went to a church and everyone was on fire and falling out and I wanted to feel what I seen all these people where feeling but I just didn’t and I left thinking it was me that God was in a sense not with me. Thank you for this I needed this. The Bible is the truth and it will direct you to the truth Always
Just because you did not feel comfortable does not mean they were wrong. No, you should not have stayed. Everyone needs a church that makes them feel comfortable. Many as I have no problem with a Charismatic church. It is taste not ungodly or not.
The Bible - which translation ?
@@eddierousseau The septuagint and masoretic texts and the dead sea scrolls and all other framework for the Bible. These churches are not of God if they believe they hold the keys to people's lives. They will answer to God on judgement day for their actions. I've been to churches that are both very conservative and calm and others where everyone speaks in "tongues" guess which one demonstrated more spiritual maturity and knowledge in the Word of God which God demands as our authority?
@@bcalvert321 "everyone needs a church that makes them feel comfortable", That is utterly unbiblical. Everyone needs to BE the Church and stand in and on THE TRUTH of the word of God no matter how uncomfortable or painful it might get, and it will, if you're reading the Bible and allowing the sword of the spirit to work in you and pierce your heart.
TEST THE SPIRIT! I have been to churches where everyones falling out, and it was the kundalini spirit at work (the imposter posing as Holy Spirit), violently and spiratically shaking on the ground, IF THATS WHAT YOU SEE THAT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT! There are literal imposters in churches trying to transfer demons to the church members. We are in the last days! And the Bible said many things about the wolves in sheep clothes!!! Do not be afraid to question and ask God. Be lead of the Holy Spirit and trust in God, not man.
Thank you for this video.I've visited this kind of churches and I recognise these points..