BERNARDS TWP. NEW JERSEY 2ND ALARM WORKING FIRE 9/12/16 FULLY INVOLVED TOWNHOUSE APARTMENTS
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The fire was reported around 2:00 P.M. at the Society Hill Development on Woodward Lane in Bernards Township Somerset County. Firefighters were pushed down the stairs by a roof collapse early in the fire. Apartment units on the east side of a fire wall were saved from heavy fire damage. The Lyons VA Hospital Fire Dept. and the Liberty Corner Fire Company were first on scene.
I love reading the ridiculous comments people post. There really are a lot of people that have a lot to say about something they have no clue about or they do understand what they see happening because they've been there themselves and have witnessed their own departments do the same thing. It's very easy to be critical and judge other people's mistakes once you've committed them yourself and now "you know better" and are so full of advice and experience. All the comments about watering the lawn, there's an original one! A real knee slapper there.
That's for your thoughts. Hooks and Irons. Good job. I did it for years. None of it is easy, especially in full turnouts on a nice warm day. Thanks for your service brother, and stay safe!
Home buildings in the US are just a shit load of cheap wood and plastic structures... can't you figure out how to build brick and mortar buildings ?
Any fire in your house results in a complete loss, if you cannot afford a real house, rent a real one...
it's called profit.
build as cheap as possible and sell as expensive as possible.
common problem that only get worse year after year.
The bad thing about apartment fires is that one fire can make 10 other families homeless
Good work gentlemen and women of the fire fighters in this fire, as well as, all fires before and after this one. Thank you all for being there for us all the time. You all mean the world to us. 👍✌️💓💓💕💕💖💖👍😃😉
I gather there was no aerial apparatus in the initial response? This fire was begging for a quick overhead attack but I didn't see an aerial truck until near the end of the video -- Far Hills - Bedminster Truck 29 and Lyons Truck 115. Both seemed to have arrived too late to be of much use.
50+ years ago when I was a kid and my dad was a Harrisburg, PA City Firefighter, he taught me the basics of fighting house fires... feeling doors before opening, crawl out rather than running out, and I remember him also telling me to direct the water to the base of the fire, not the height of the flames and smoke as I witnessed on this video. RIP dad, and thanks for the many lessons in life you gave me over the years.
Wow, there'a lot of keyboard commando, RUclips armchair firefighting expert-wannabees generating anonymous criticism for this video. I guess you all weren't there to save the day and take a curtain call.
LOL Glad somebody said it! It's a lot harder to do in real time ain't it? LOL
A big massive thanks to everyone who responds and works around the clock to keep us safe out there way to go as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and the battlion chief who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated even by new Jersey fd and pd responding great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you be proud really enjoyed and appreciate the vidoes please keep them safe out there and coming appreciate you guys thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what started the fire don't work to hard hopefully red cross will help out right ?!!!! Joe
For all you armchair firefighters you are big on taking down and finding what you think is wrong.
Why don’t you try out for the force and see what you can do. You have no idea what it is like and how hard the job is. So go play with your garden hose and let the real firefighters do the job they trained to do.
This part of NJ is all volunteer with several very very small exceptions, so take it easy on them they probably just left their jobs to come here
Chris Silcox
Exactly.
There is no such thing as a non professonal firefighter. If you dont know the job at hand then its not for you.
Bunch of amateurs.
Liberty corner is all volunteer and the V.A is a paid dept. The difference between them in the vid lighter colored turnout gear is Liberty corner and darker is V.A
Like the scene @0:46 with the off-road chief! ;-) @2:08 the first line comes in with a police officer!!! Hm, I was a firefighter and I feel there's something wrong going on there.
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My sons apartment complex burned down in feb 2021. It was so heartbreaking to see all those families lose EVERYTHING. There was snow on the ground and my daughter in law was standing there barefoot. Thankfully EVERYONE got out. (It happened while they were asleep) my new place to donate to is Red Cross. They took my daughter in law at 3:00 AM and gave her a brand new pair of shoes.
Did a good job watering the lawn...Its like somthing off the Benny Hill Show !
Ron Bradley you people are such critics.. but know nothing about how it’s all done.. there is a purpose to the mayhem.
I'm a armchair firefighter myself.
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I hope that Tower company on side A got a wonderful Thank You Letter for watering the grass 😝
We have to keep the grass alive to reduce the carbon footprint that the fire caused.
. . . the water was directed by a blind FF and no one was telling him that he was permanently overshooting the target. . .
When the members of your fire crew choose to ignore you having fallen down a concrete stairway and the Chief Fire Officer on the fire grounds summarily steps over your body and proceeds on without even inquiring as to whether or not you are injured, it's quite conceivable that you are not considered as being of much value to anyone you work with. This would strongly suggest that the time has arrived for you to seek employment elsewhere outside of the fire profession.
I really did feel sorry for that dude. He was in full gear when he fell & the camera caught the fall. I know that dude was hurt. His back his chest, his ribs, lungs. To just by pass like he doesn't even care. Heartless. Capt. Dick didn't have an air tank or mask so he shouldn't heave been in there anyway. He is about to become a victim himself. That fire kicked this crews ass. Everyone of them.
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The flimsy sub-standard construction of these apartments is outrageous. Look at this! Its a wonder people were not killed or gravely injured. Thank God almighty no one was hurt. I have seen fires like this in new buildings and it just is so outrageous how these places are just slapped up with plywood, cheap wood and substandard construction. Good job to the firemen trying to do the best they can.
Just think how much profit they make building these. Andy England
Tja, das sind hald fast alles Holzhäuser, die brennen wie Zunder. Wir haben Häuser aus Ziegel.
I'll save this clip just to show collegues how NOT do to.
Very slow, the insurance will pay out before the fire fighters get any water on it.
Or maybe the fire was just fast ... as it usually is in these modern buildings.
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No - all volunteer departments in Jersey are barely functional. Not enough people. At least they watered the lawn.
if you call timber modern, then, yes.
Benjamin Esposti:
You mean 'US modern buildings' I suppose.
Our (European) buildings don't burn that fast, as most fires are contained within 1 (one!) room because we use modern material: BRICKS
This and the fact that the average Eur. FB has the first drop of water within 30 secs (not 3 mins) after engine stop prevent a lot of damage.
And we aim our water jets in the fire, not over it ....
once the guy falls the chief says your on your own pal and steps over him
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Sure he said he was okay. Exaggerating? he got back up.
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Yup. Another vinyl clad inferno.🙄
Nice looking trucks. But training would be better, and leadership with some knowledge of firefighting would have helped a lot.
The fire chief , hey you guys just let it burn it self out ok,oh and water the grass too.
The reason for hosing down the lawn is so brush fires don't break out due to burning debris and embers flying everywhere.
The Roof ... The Roof ... The Roof is on fire ...
hopefully nobody is getting injured ..
Yea, I know the dude who fell down them stairs was hurt. At least bruises from the air tank he was wearing. Maybe even broken ribs. Then his chief comes along & kicks him in the ass while he was laying there moaning. He's going to need a month supply of Advil.
God bless and keep all firefighters safe while doing this incredibly dangerous job!
Cut it p;
A million and one THANK YOUS for doing this dangerous job!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been a ff for 19 yrs. in a big city, you can tell These guys don’t fight much fire so be easy on the comments.
Thank you! That's what I've been getting at. Along with @Neal B's comment above. I don't know if they have a 1st due ladder assignment, but that would have helped tremendously.
why aren’t sprinklers installed in wooden properties
Not sure if this was mentioned but why was the command car/ICP parked so close to the actual fire? Seems like a bad position. Glad the fire was put out.
Because he is fat & didn't like to walk far. He also is super human & can walk up into burning apartments with heavy fire & smoke with no mask & air tank. He lets his heavy boots do the work for him just like he stumped on the poor firefighter that fell down the stairs when the roof collapse. Stomped on him & told him to get the hell out of there.
12:20 . what was he thinking ??????? melting plastic ooh lets pull down the roof with tiles on it as the spouting is melting round me whyyyyyy!!!
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Sad, but no casualties? Is it me, but it appears that the USA FD never seem to be in any rush to put a fire out?
@Steve White - It would appear that way. But for a lot of different departments there are different reasons. You never see NYFD, Baltimore City, DC or LAFD taking their time, I tell you what! LOL A lot of it comes down to training and "Chain of Command" understanding. When everyone knows what they are supposed to do, after size up occurs, everyone gets to work. But if that same "down the line" theory isn't taught early, you get a lot of firefighters standing around waiting for their assignments. Sadly though, fire doesn't wait to see what everyone else is going to do. ;^) And sorry if I left any departments out, but those are among the ones that I am most familiar. I'm sure others can add to that. Chicago Fire probably operates pretty efficiently as well.
I been seen fews fire videos n I seen the FF they not rashing to stop the fire out of homes , n they take their time to get ready n the fire keep spreading to the whole place on fire by the time the FF finishing put the fire out the whole place it's gone with the fire..
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There is usually a good reason for it and one of them is *If you are one of those people who don't send donation to their local fire station, then their fire station may or may not go to their house to put the fire out.* I learned that from someone who volunteered at a fire station as fire fighter.
You never run on a fire seen is what I was taught
Dude climbed up the outrigger to get to the turntable. Wow
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Precisely why I would never live in an attached house.
I would never live in those cheap American card board houses.
Nice quick knockdown, but why are they watering the lawn with the deck gun?
Earthworms. They wanted to go fishing after the fire.
Mark De Mers lol
I could be wrong, but it looked like they were trying to cool the surrounding area so it wouldn't spread to the other units as fast
Looks like suppression to me - keep flaming bits from flying off the apartment and possibly spreading the fire to neighboring buildings. Their first goal is NOT to save the apartments involved - they're long gone - it's to protect life, then keep the fire from further spreading. They also were cooling the roof of the units on the other side of the firewall, to try and keep the fire from jumping it. Once they had a "firewall" (ha, ha) of cool around the site of the fire, the hose teams moved in to knock it down internally.
Max Zomboni bruh
Two words: RENTER'S INSURANCE!
Aren't you supposed to put the water on the fire and not just over the top of it?
They made mist to cool and wet the roof of the next building.
The Grass needed watering.
@@ivanivanov2164 stop it , stop it now.
No stupid excuses please. The bulk of the fire is through the roof, the only place that fire is spreading is, upward.
That Master stream was over-shooting the objective spot.
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Why stupid? Most probably they would do better by hitting the bulk from aerials which I didn't see in the vid. When an inferno grows to flashover, it spreads in all ways due to high temperature, not the direction of flame. In this case it was a good decision to focus on localizing the fire from ouside and inside the house, and not on hitting the bulk.
@@ivanivanov2164 the spread of all directions had been over, the bulk has already vented through the roof!
Like I said, there was too much over-shooting at the bulk of fire. And I don't think you're stupid, just the reasoning you gave for this master stream operation.
I am a resident of Basking Ridge, Where i live at the Cedars of townhouses. When i drove on Spring Valley Blvd of the road just next to Socail Hill of the townhouses and condos. I saw big fire condo. I did was there too
at least the grass got a good watering
No one likes a brown lawn.
I don't think there is a fire department that understands the need for a Spotter.
BINGO!!! You nailed it. It's VERY hard to see exactly what you're hitting standing behind a deck gun.
I asked a police officer to spot for me years ago. He was on the C-side anyway, so I put him to work. If you give a copper an assignment that doesn't require the need for PPE, they eat it up!
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Notice the FF that fell down the steps during the interior attack! The fire chief just walks right by!
Looks like they were doing a primary search at the time, no hoses...
Pretty sure ceiling came down on primary crew. Rewind and watch. He and others looks like they bailed. This is terrible. No master streams. No monitors.
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Ils ont le plus beau et le meilleur matériel possible mais méthode de travail déplorable
They probably did the best job possible with what they had to work with. I noticed that more apparatus arrived toward the end of this video. At least they did keep it from spreading past the stairwell.
American built. Burns well
The deck gun operator is watering the grass instead of hitting the fire. That guy needs better aim..
Hate to clean his bathroom, he better learn to sit when he pees.
Firefighters need more training😂
So so so cant undetstand the style of putting out fire the american firefighter compare to asia firefighter..for us that why we are call firefighter we fight fire but you all just spray abit here abit there and let the fire eat up the whole building..in fact if you fight till the end you could save the 2nd floor the spreading from to the next building..and one thing everyone is bringing their hooks and pickaxe which you could clearly see theres on one to save and entry to building is widely open why not put out more lines rather than walking around like fools..
They did prevent the spread of the fire from the next building. And probably did so with a lot less water damage than you would like to inflict. :^) They call us firefighters because we fight fires all over the world. And we do it with different equipment under different conditions in different structures under different laws and regulations. And we only fight fires; not each other. Thanks for your service brother. ⚕ 🆘️
Obviously fire retardant materials were not used in the construction.
We just had a multiple in Wantage, a 6,000 square foot Toll Brother model home that went up in about five minutes down to the ground during the day time which is usually rare. It seems the newer building materials burn much hotter and faster.
It's all down to newer materials and construction these days. It has changed how we address and fight fires tremendously. Surround and drown isn't just the first thing to do now. Good observations.
Why I would never live in one of those apartment complexes. Seen too many built without fire walls. They're just matchbook apartments!
Amazing video! 👍
All things considered (Chief ignoring a fallen FF, watering the lawn, 2 FF standing there with charged hose line doing nothing at 8:34) I am sure happy to not live in that township.
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it's disgusting the way they build houses and apartments in this country. like an oversized cardboard box. with all that plastic and particle board flooring and all them plastic pipes and other stuff that goes into them cheap peaces of crap
So much camera shaking...... On another note, a firefighter trips falls at 1:00, but nobody cares enough to help him up? Sad
I noticed that too and could no longer watch after that. He didn't trip and fall, you can see him roll down the stairs. The other knuckle heads walking by and just looking at him was unacceptable.
Albert Ledesma I know right? I mean I get that they have a job to do and that they may have been from different units, but the others could have at least had the compassion to help him up.
I didn't see a single "team" member that had any tools, my WAG (wild ass guess) is that they were a under trained search team that had 1 or more members run out of air while in the structure
gerald mangus in the description it said that one of the departments was a VA hospital fire dept, I can't imagine they have much previous experience or training, but i could be wrong
They are a career department just like any other. Fully trained mostly prior service guys. Over 20 VA hospital fire departments nationwide wide and many see a good amount of fire, especially first due bc there are usually surrounded by volunteers
Today's volunteer service lacks fortitude and leadership. Too young, the officers of today. Sucks.
What a joke. Just walk right by the fallen FF? Also, make sure you water the lawn, don't worry about putting out the fire. Amatures.
Every US clip I see , the fire crews never seem to have any get up and go or urgency to put the fire out?
We used to train so we were ready to suit up and enter a building in 60 seconds. Almost always had full gear on by the time we reached the fire.
Not true Kavboi, you are probably looking at a volunteer department, probably a bunch of teenagers. Their chiefs are just older versions of them. For the most part they are taught to surround and drown the fire from the out side. Larger, paid department members spend many months just in training before they are allowed to touch a hose. These volunteers all have nice equipment but sadly they don't how to use it to it's fullest potential.
Kavboi 66 I noticed they were delayed in their efforts, my father was a past fire chief, some of what this showed would have greatly distressed him., however, I have the greatest respect for firefighters, many lives have been saved by the efforts of firefighters!
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I agree- You are an embarrassment to our brotherhood
When the members of your fire crew choose to ignore you having fallen down a concrete stairway and the Chief Fire Officer on the fire grounds summarily steps over your body and proceeds on without even inquiring as to whether or not you are injured, it's quite conceivable that you are not considered as being of much value to anyone you work with. .I am a safety officer in NY and our greatest asses is our volunteers sho put in hundreds of hours for absolutely no compensation- I have almost 2000 hours of training interior and exterior and we always look out for our brothers and sisters- really pathetic behavior for a surround and drowned-- and my condo was the one bottom floor on the right-I lived in the Basking ridge area, Morristown, Madison and Convent station for over 30 years- By the way we use this video to show what an aerial ladder truck should not do- don't shoot the water over the burn and down into it- !
I know this is an old video, but it pissed me off seeing that FF go down and Chief ignores him. Says a lot about this Dept. I guess...
If you notice there were four or five more guys in the apartment where the roof collapse just happened. The chief knew that guy who fell was alive he was checking on the others.
I'm With you Wilfred but about 2 years late. I like watching these as they sometimes catch stuff like that. That fireguy took a big fall, he was wearing full gear. Betcha at least bruised ribs and lungs. I know Capt. Dick wants to check on his other fighters, But at least help the guy up. Wears is air tank for Capt. Dick, It's o.k. for to go running up into smoky fire like that with no gear? I do not think so, he should have known better, as he's suppose to be in-charge of what the hell's going on here. Not running around up in the fire trying to check on his guys. Another note, never take your masks off while your running from the smoke & fire. Yea, you can't see, but you take your mask off, now you can't see, & you can't breath. 4 of them guys came down out of there unmasked. That fire kicked their ass. I don't mean to arm chair quarter back, but these guys need some serious hands on training, including the chief. Just a little insight. Very dangerous & glad everyone made it out. I helped a firefighter I seen fall off a ladder at a fire once, nobody else seen him fall, at least 15 feet. Everyone was pissed I jumped in to help out, but I wasn't going to let the guy lay there.
Wilfred Caraballo the dude got back up 2 seconds after. He was on the ground before chief even went up. Prob told him he was fine. Everyone’s a desk chair critic these days.
@@dfl4701Yea Doug, we are arm chair Critics. Watch that fall dude. The guy almost does a back flip down the stairs. Remember he's in full gear with a 40lb air tank. You don't even see the dude after about a minute or so he does get up. It's taking him so long dude, because he's hurt.
Inside. Broken Ribs, Lung damage from the fall. After he leaves you don't see him anymore, that's because he trying to walk off the pain. It won't work. The Chief's an "Ass-Hole", If you watch close, it looks like he actually kicks the guy as he steps over him. This "Chief" is a classic idiot. It is ok for him to go stumbling up into a smoky fire with no breathing apparatus , as he is the holly grail. He is not immune to the dangerous smoke that will kill his ass one day. He just likes kicking folks around.
That was a pissed off chief running up those stairs to pull those guys out. Don’t know if radio communications were bad but when ur inside a fire you get tunnel vision and think you can catch it not realizing how much structure is actually on fire. Glad everyone was ok.
what the potato head was doing there ?
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Another reason why I like living in a house. With apartment fires you're at risk of being homeless because of someone else negligence or even accidental fire.
I was always taught that you fire a fire from the bottom up ..... that way the doesn't have a chance to spread to other areas because they are saturated already .... fighting fire from the top down allows the fire to spread to other areas and the effect of the water on the fire is minimal .... I've seen many fires and they always pump water to the top and not from the bottom up and it is always the case the structure is always destroyed. On multi storied structures you always see the fire spreading from the top down and not from the bottom up I' m not a firefighter but always was told from my youth to my old age fight the fire from the bottom up...........................
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Responding too slow. Its like, okay, let it burnt first and wait for the fire to get bigger.
They worked too slow just wait for the fire keep burn more higher seen like they didn’t want to work hard.
Lawn did need ware
might help if the water actually went on the fire.
jbright97 they were wetting the roof down to keep it from spreading you office chair critic
Who's in charge? I think these are the worst firemen I've seen. There is an active fire and firemen are standing around. Please explain.
No sense of urgency, right . That's how it's done in some departments.
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Mucho vehículo, mucho equipo y escasa formación, parecen aficionados, se aprecian errores notables. Si llega a hacer viento no queda ni una casa. Sin refresco, sin cortafuegos, no coordina nadie, se molestan con las mangueras. La mitad del tiempo riegan el césped, apoyan una escalera bajo un piso en llamas, en fin para hacer un manual de cómo no se hacen las cosas. Patético.
Heck they would have been better off treating this like a brush fire , set a back fire go to the other end of the apartments set it on fire and eventually the fire will burn itself out .. but hey after they rebuild the grass will look good !
What are the firefighters even doing up there without water??? Seems crazy just running about like lunatics
I'm glad I live in the UK and not in the us on a safety point of view some of your fire departments suck, too slow, way too long getting water on totally clueless leadership,, video after video are all the same I don't get it and to step over a fallen firefighter is criminal.
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these guys should stop drinking I saw at least 2 drunk FF's on scene here
You know this....how????
Did you bring your personal breathalyzer?
You are a fucking moron
Skankpronger: sober up!
That grass is gonna be green as hell...Nice job boys!!Best lawn on the block!!!!
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How can you guys do all this complaining about the firefighters? I spent 5 minutes throwing up from all of the camera shaking.
Cheap ,newer lightweight construction. Firetrap. Why are they allowed to build crap like this?
A firefighter falls down the stairs, and is laying on the ground, and the Chief walks right by him, and doesn't even help him to his feet. What a joke !!!
now if that building was made out of steel frame or concrete with master walls made of concrete that wouldn't have burned up like that
John Morrison Lol, no one is going to use steel beams and concrete in residential houses. 😂😂😂
Very curious as to why the frontal attack is shooting the water over the fire into the back yard. Makes me crazy just watching it.
Why are they watering the lawn?
That fire should have been put out half an hour ago
Yeah but when these fires happen the insurance companies take forever to pay off the homeowners before they demolish the houses they need to pay up real quick to get rid of them
Hate to be critical but I think I could've done better with my willy! At least I could aim on the actual fire!
Took em an awful long time to get some water on this.. damn they move slow.. glad I dont live there.
Less than 4 minutes. That's pretty good.
Why is it the fire Marshals don't tell the guys running the hoses that you are overshooting the whole house or the apartment there's no water going on the fire why can't you freaking get it on the fire that people that are spraying from the front they're shooting it into the backyard you're not even putting it on the fire the guys in the back shoot it over the front
1:00 in FF falls down the stairs and LT just walks over him? Very odd.
I noticed that. I also saw another guy come down with his mask off and no helmet looking exhausted. I think they were inside when part of that roof collapsed or it got really really hot in there and they backed out. I think that's why the other was on the ground.
very poor ff attack. not aggressive at all
Why don't you fire a man that are walking around looking at the fire tell them guys that they're overshooting the water is going right over the house and not even putting it on the house or the apartments or whatever they're overshooting
I moved out of these apartments a week before the fire don't believe me ask the landlord Abt the last name morris
They do a great job of watering the lawn on the far (close) side of the building.
Yes indeed! Talk about missing the target!
I have to say, I live literally 2 minutes down the road in another complex, I left my house around the time this fire was involved and I didn't see anything.. The FD for this town is wonderful (as well as the police and rescue squad) to get this under control in the time they did.
Glad to hear this. All firefighters are dedicated and want to be professional. Otherwise, why bother right? The job has so many subtleties that a video can't really capture everything. There is a lot more to it than just "spray and pray." I do think they did a good job, considering what they faced when they arrived. Thanks for your thoughts and observations bro!
@@charmcitytoe Great to see the police officers were even pulling lines @ 2:30
are these really TRAINED Firefighters or hobbies ?
American building standards are the biggest joke ever.
Very bad work!
should water go on the fire instead of flying over the fire?
Os bombeiros americanos demoram muito pra agir no combate direto ao fogo...
Let me get ladder, climb and pull fire down on me!!!!
with that much fire showing they atct from the air and ground
What do i miss in this picture....... O yeah i know W.A.T.E.R.
Was that PD I saw pulling hose??!! Awesome!!
Where is command here? and using that deck gun on “A” watering the lawn on “C”?? Better have ur helmet tight with that pressure debris is going flying!! Scary!! I’ve seen worse attacks but not much!!
Umm how did that firefighter fall down the stairs ?
Wow! Imagine coming home to that!!!
What a shame truck shooting water over top of fire
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