PRE ARRIVAL TWO ALARM Structure Fire Point Pleasant Beach New Jersey 4/28/23

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  • OC - Point Pleasant Beach - Two Alarm - Structure Fire - 37 Arnold Ave.
    Around 10:00 PM Point Pleasant Beach police received a call for a reported structure fire at 37 Arnold Ave. When PD arrived on the scene they confirmed the working structure fire. 4300 Deputy Chief was the first officer on the scene sizing the structure up with heavy fire through the roof of the B side. The first due engine was 4201 they tried to lay out from the hydrant but it exploded. The next truck in was 4305 and they were to set up in front of the structure and start searches. Crews from stations 42 & 43 started to stretch a handline to the third floor and start searches. They were able to get a water supply from 4301 and were able to make a decent knock on the bulk of the fire on the third floor. Due to more water issues and high winds and rapid decline of interior conditions crews were forced out. Evac tones were dropped and all members were to remove themselves from the structure. Due to the high winds and lack of water during the process, the fire was able to rapidly grow in size and started to engulf the whole 2nd floor. The 2 Alarm was struck. Crews from Point Pleasant Boro, Brielle, Toms River, and Sout Wall were requested to the scene. All companies were operating for around four hours. The cause of the fire is currently unknown and under investigation by the Ocean County Fire Marshalls.
    Ocean Fire Company No.1
    Point Pleasant Beach Fire Company No.2
    Point Pleasant Boro Station 75
    Silverton Station 29
    Brielle 99-1
    South Wall 52-3

Комментарии • 464

  • @cencom1us
    @cencom1us Год назад +84

    This was a firefighters apartment. He lost everything. He got out with his dog alive Thank God.

    • @jerseyshorefireresponse
      @jerseyshorefireresponse  Год назад +10

      Praying for our locals 🙏 we are here to help in anyway we can.

    • @bentley4446
      @bentley4446 Год назад +5

      Sorry to hear

    • @bradmagnuson6963
      @bradmagnuson6963 Год назад +3

      That really sucks

    • @danapowers9793
      @danapowers9793 Год назад +2

      Blessings and healing for the firefighter and his comrades.

    • @RandRParanormal
      @RandRParanormal Год назад +3

      Thank God he's ok! I'm a retired firefighter, is there any fund raisers for him?

  • @bobby_D
    @bobby_D Год назад +133

    No matter what fire video I watch, it always amazes me how long it takes to get water onto a fire. It’s almost every time.

    • @RamboJohnJ
      @RamboJohnJ Год назад +16

      Just because you don’t see it in camera, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

    • @fleabitis
      @fleabitis Год назад +37

      Given the non-linear growth of a fire, there is absolutely no substitute for getting water in visible fire at the first possible opportunity. Any knock down is better than none. With fire showing through the soffit all along the base of the 2-side, a quick initial attack there could have bought some irreplaceable time while crew & equipment mustered to mount an interior attack. Take a look at LAFD’S typical response to similar conditions. Water within 60-seconds - even if only from the tank -always has great benefit. “Hustle” is also a huge factor.

    • @ericschmidt7359
      @ericschmidt7359 Год назад +18

      They would have had plenty of water, if that hydrant didn't break.

    • @portagepete1
      @portagepete1 Год назад +8

      How could they drive to a fire with out a water truck. And It's their job to check hydrants.

    • @chavosuijkerbuijk3281
      @chavosuijkerbuijk3281 Год назад +7

      I don't totally agree, altough I have to say that for us (European firefighters) it is difficult to understand why it takes so long in the united states to build up water. On that we agree. But, if we take out a line to attack immediately, the first one mostly is for show if it comes to these type of fires. For the public it looks like we are fighting the fire already and in the mean time more water and beter hoses will be build up. Is one way beter then the other, I don't know. It does make a difference in for example vehicle fires.

  • @DavidHorsnall
    @DavidHorsnall Год назад +43

    Did any of you watch the same fire as I did? This is atrocious. Took to long to stretch a hand line, doesn’t take 3 FF’s to hit a hydrant, second engine doesn’t lay in for the broken hydrant, evacuation tones for what? You guys need to train. Engine and truck work is desperately needed.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 Год назад +2

      Thanks for confirming you've never worked a day as a firefighter

    • @DavidHorsnall
      @DavidHorsnall Год назад +18

      @@virgilhilts3924 27 years on the job. Retired Squad Captain.

    • @chewybacca11
      @chewybacca11 Год назад +5

      @@virgilhilts3924 I agree with him.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 Год назад

      @@chewybacca11
      So you are clueless as well
      Thanks for clarifying 👍

    • @chewybacca11
      @chewybacca11 Год назад +8

      @@virgilhilts3924 you’re welcome
      I don’t know what your deal is, but everything he said was true. They did a pretty bad job. What do you disagree with?

  • @SACAPOCCER
    @SACAPOCCER Год назад +21

    Wow, this was extremely painful to watch ! Lack of training is an understatement !!

    • @AllenPortman
      @AllenPortman 11 месяцев назад +1

      What were you able to juge the firefighters lack of training. I notice a few but considering they lost a hydrant, wind-driven fire, heavy rain and massive 3rd level lqrge structure.

    • @jebcommon2332
      @jebcommon2332 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@AllenPortmanshouldn't more hustle go into securing a second hydrant, knowing where always a potential for a malfunctioning one. At 25 minutes finally got ladder cannon onto dormer fire. 25 minutes!

  • @pendoreille9185
    @pendoreille9185 Год назад +28

    This is a shame. From the beginning I figured this was an attic fire and the house would be saved. BAD GUESS. Many impediments but I hope the department (or insurance company) inspects that hydrant with an eye to, oh, say, "sharing" the loss with whomever is responsible for the hydrant. I don't think command was particularly good either.

  • @davecarsley8773
    @davecarsley8773 6 месяцев назад +3

    Even an engine typically holds 250-500 gallons of water. Even if the hydrant you tagged is bad, you should still be able to get some water on the fire immediately while waiting for a better hydrant or a dump tank and water shuttle.

  • @thedrewview78
    @thedrewview78 11 месяцев назад +8

    Our department always has a water tanker respond so we can put the water on the fire within minutes of arriving, while hydrants and more lines are estabilshed as well as pumpers. I see this as a lack of training and bad fire hydrant management

  • @robdudley3867
    @robdudley3867 11 месяцев назад +5

    Well, at least their record of never losing a basement remains intact.

  • @cahbee123
    @cahbee123 Год назад +5

    The time it takes for them to get water on the fire is complete negligence. The Lack of training and hustle is to hard to watch.

  • @lchaput7721
    @lchaput7721 10 месяцев назад +4

    If you're condemned to live in Point Pleasant Beach, do not call the fire department just because you're house is on fire.
    They're so incompetent it's far better to let the dump burn and rebuild.

    • @crazylady955
      @crazylady955 5 месяцев назад

      I have noticed it. I have had FF training but not a FF and seems their command has become complacent with training and complacency kills

  • @terrenceanderson7966
    @terrenceanderson7966 8 месяцев назад +3

    I can't keep watching this 😢I want to cry because of the slow response and reactions of everyone involved 😭

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 Год назад +23

    What a beautiful house.

    • @richkuklinski8424
      @richkuklinski8424 10 месяцев назад

      Not anymore

    • @spud435
      @spud435 5 месяцев назад

      Notice the sold sign still in the front yard.

  • @garybrain9786
    @garybrain9786 10 месяцев назад +4

    Rumour has it, it's still burning to this day.

  • @Marrio49
    @Marrio49 11 месяцев назад +3

    It is now 11 minutes and 39 seconds and the fire has quadrupled in size. It is contained on the roof. Where is the aerial tower that should be throwing water on the roof? Why is the deck gun on the pump not being used?Why aren’t they utilizing them ? These two pieces of equipment can throw as much as four times the volume of water than a 2 1/2 inch hand line. What are these bozos doing? Their chief should be fired.
    I am from Boston and have been to hundreds of fires over the last 40 years. BFD employs the finest chiefs, deputies and officers that you can find anywhere and the firefighters are well trained. They have excellent leadership and training.

  • @johncutts481
    @johncutts481 Год назад +11

    I have watched many videos of fires in the US and have never seen any fire departments as incompetentt as those in these videos. There seem to be dozens of firefighters doing absolutely nothing.

  • @vanessahuman7607
    @vanessahuman7607 Год назад +13

    4/30. Sometimes I wonder if the firefighters know what to do. Why does it take so long?

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 6 месяцев назад

      They are listening to their commander. It's a military structure. If he fails, they all fail.

  • @fozzywxman
    @fozzywxman Год назад +3

    Meanwhile, they had all the water they needed across the street in Little Silver Lake to put out the entire block let alone a one floor fire. Stage a pumper in the parking lot across the street with a suction hose and filter in the lake and away we go.

  • @edwardbojarczuk6360
    @edwardbojarczuk6360 11 месяцев назад +2

    If nobody called the fire dept the place would burn down in an hour call the fire dept and it took 3 hrs same result

  • @jimkeappock7558
    @jimkeappock7558 Год назад +7

    A lot of lessons to be learned here!!

  • @gaetalton5119
    @gaetalton5119 Год назад +4

    Wow,what a novelty, a FD that can't put out a fire. 15 min. after arrival w/no water onboard, finally get water but the fireman are standing around in the street scratching their backsides, watching the fire burn; 45 min later, 3rd floor has successfully burned down to the 2nd floor when, a male voice pipes in, "need to get some water up there..." Duh, ya think??? Something wrong w/this production. After watching 3 videos of Jersey Shore FD attempts at putting out fires, perhaps a remedial course in successful fire extinguishing would be in order ..or perhaps a new Fire Chief. Or maybe just skip water waste altogether and let the houses burn to the ground on their own - eventually the fire will extinguish itself.

    • @crazylady955
      @crazylady955 5 месяцев назад

      New chief and allot of make up training

  • @billdacitizan380
    @billdacitizan380 Год назад +16

    Good video coverage!! Sorry FD leadership. Those 3 lines at the rear were doing nothing to exteguish the fire. No one to tell them

  • @richardsvensson5154
    @richardsvensson5154 9 месяцев назад +2

    These firefighters looked like they were at a holiday camp,glad that wasn't my house.
    Started out relatively small by the time they got organised it was a raging inferno.

  • @tomfrombrick
    @tomfrombrick Год назад +13

    Wild video. Broken hydrant, evac tones.
    Pretty sure that was a B&B. Sad bc the shore season is upon us

    • @DRIBBLES2500
      @DRIBBLES2500 Год назад +2

      It was hard to listen to her while I was Really nervous

  • @Dwaine-ir2kt
    @Dwaine-ir2kt Год назад +2

    In the uk that fire would be out in 10 minutes we use water from the water tank under the fire truck

  • @peteneal5914
    @peteneal5914 Год назад +5

    in the uk all fire trucks carry between 500 to 800 gallons of water 3 trucks would of dumped nearly 2000 gallons on that fire within minutes the fire would be nearly out

    • @bencunningham6298
      @bencunningham6298 Год назад +1

      Nah, you're not putting that out from the outside. Older style construction, knee walls most likely present and plenty of void spaces for fire to travel unseen. This roof needed opened asap on the downwind side and guys in there pulling ceiling and walls.

    • @peteneal5914
      @peteneal5914 Год назад

      @@bencunningham6298 why do houses get built from mainly wood construction is it a cheaper option ive worked in the building construction for 30 odd years in the uk every building ive worked on has been a inner of 18 by 9 by 4 breeze block with a 4 inch gap then brick on the outside the gaps for isulation the roof beams are a frames of timber then tyles but never built a full house of wood yes they look nice but if they catch fire there burned to a charde mess

    • @bencunningham6298
      @bencunningham6298 Год назад

      @@peteneal5914 yup, all about cost. Builders association has more pull than the fire service when it comes to building codes. This house compared to more modern ones built in the states is actually pretty good. Nowadays they don't even use actual wood for certain things. They use OSB which is a bunch of little pieces of wood, like wood chips glued together to make plywood, manufactured beams are made with the same stuff. Believe it or not they don't even use nails anymore to hold the roof trusses together, they use a gusset plate that fails at 180 degrees. Everything modem in the US is built to burn and burn fast even apartment complexes. Only part built with block is the foundation. It's honestly a joke but nobody could afford a house built out of brick or other harder materials. Some areas use stucco but I'm not familiar with it so not sure how that holds up in a fire.

    • @peteneal5914
      @peteneal5914 Год назад

      @@bencunningham6298 ive a friend in durango colorado and a friend in rougemonte north varolina am going to ask what there houses are made of its a shame and a crime to put lives before profit wood might be cheaper but you dont have much chance when theres fire we have that stuff wood chipping glued its called wood chip bord or mdf bord its strong but burns so fast i hate the stuff you kant use screws or nails on it it splits and cracks its rubbish i use ply wood sheets far stronger but expensive now but everything expensive in uk now soon thel charge us to breathe fresh air

    • @bencunningham6298
      @bencunningham6298 Год назад

      @@peteneal5914 yea it's super expensive here too. Last time I looked 1/2 inch (1.2 cm) was around 40$ a sheet which typically it ran about 12-15$. Stucco style is more on the west coast and southwest. There's a few scattered throughout the country but that's mainly where they use that construction.

  • @chronically.advocating
    @chronically.advocating 10 месяцев назад +3

    If they're having that much trouble drafting then command needs to special call for tankers, and a holding pen. You can't control a fire like this without a tower ladder in continuous operation.

  • @MrEagleye911
    @MrEagleye911 Год назад +25

    Please explain to me how the hell you respond to fire and not have water? Aren't they ever inspected? This was totally uncalled for

    • @redbug3696
      @redbug3696 Год назад

      Fire Hydrants, water trucks. It ain't easy sometimes. 🌊🔥🌊

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад +1

      They are inspected twice a year, this one was inspected on April 24th

    • @bfirefighter3
      @bfirefighter3 Год назад

      @@njtpa1975 do the trucks carry water?

  • @DRIBBLES2500
    @DRIBBLES2500 Год назад +15

    I have been listening to fires in Ocean County for 30 years and i’ve heard all kinds of stuff….Last night listening to this Fire it was tough I was really worried when they Were having water issues

    • @bobbys1984
      @bobbys1984 Год назад +1

      They could’ve put that fire out with a water can when that first engine got there

    • @DRIBBLES2500
      @DRIBBLES2500 Год назад

      @@bobbys1984 Oh I didn’t know you were a Point Pleasant Firefighter what station do you belong to 42 or 43?

  • @JohnpaulDejoria666
    @JohnpaulDejoria666 Год назад +4

    Heard this job come in last night and looked to see if you were streaming last night. Glad you got good video on it

    • @peterarvanitis6497
      @peterarvanitis6497 Год назад +1

      I know he’d be there to cover the action I saw one picture of the fire building and put on broadcastify to monitor some good listening there

  • @johnlang6366
    @johnlang6366 9 месяцев назад +2

    Your absolutely right!!! You don't know what's going. Because the fire department has no clue either. 😢😮😮

  • @billmahnken915
    @billmahnken915 Год назад +9

    I'll bet they look good in a parade, with all that equipment.

  • @marshanotmarcia7433
    @marshanotmarcia7433 Год назад +8

    Wait, 3 horn beeps was all the EVAC signal they got?!?! WTFFFF!!!!! WAIL THOSE DAMN HORNS!!!!! 😡😡😡

    • @Allison-ti5vv
      @Allison-ti5vv Год назад +1

      Did you know this was a firefighters home? Before being a Karen show respect

  • @rhacker3058
    @rhacker3058 Год назад +7

    Does that Part Of The World Not Have Water, 10 min's In Haven't Seen A Drop!!!! What-Da Whata??????????????

  • @yaxlen7378
    @yaxlen7378 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dime qué no quieres apagar un incendio sin decirmelo..😢

  • @NJDRONEMAN
    @NJDRONEMAN Год назад +6

    And all you pros on the wind … If an initial line was deployed to the 3rd floor on arrival . It would of been a quick knock . Don’t blame the wind . Took them 15 minutes to get water flowing . Yes the hydrant blew …. Still have 750 to 1000 gallons of tank water . No excuse.. one of jerseys highest rated towns with the most expensive homes this is unacceptable

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад

      1 truck would not have knocked that fire down, 1 truck can't
      Knock out a car fire.

  • @paulsylvester1394
    @paulsylvester1394 Год назад +3

    Some difficult conditions? For sure. But 13 minutes in and not a drop of water yet! There is a leadership problem here!

  • @high1voltage1rules
    @high1voltage1rules 9 месяцев назад +2

    They have been there for 5 mins with no hoses on that fire!! You telling me no fire truck has no water onboard??? That was disgraceful!!! The damage in 5 mins to that house!! That was painful to watch!!

    • @doreenblatz2440
      @doreenblatz2440 9 месяцев назад

      It was extremely painful to watch. I hope they are all volunteer fire fighters because if they’re paid, they’re not doing their jobs. I’ve never seen a fire video where you have so many fire fighters standing around doing nothing. Time for this department to be sued and training might be a good idea because they certainly don’t act like trained fire fighters.

  • @johnnoland4249
    @johnnoland4249 Год назад +4

    That must be an older home. If it was new construction , half the house would have been gone by now.

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Год назад

      Looks like circa 1910.

  • @njtpa1975
    @njtpa1975 Год назад +8

    60 mph Winds, Middle of the Night, All Volunteer Department, Hydrant Breaks. Everything that could go wrong, did.

  • @04u2cY
    @04u2cY Год назад +8

    The firefighters were at disadvantage with the wind combined with water issues.
    They sure had a fight on their hands.

    • @bobbys1984
      @bobbys1984 Год назад +1

      They coulda put that out on tank water alone.

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 6 месяцев назад

      The horrible incident command didn't help anything.

  • @DCDura
    @DCDura Год назад +13

    Was it really 25 minutes before water was on the upper structure?

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 Год назад

      You are seriously embarrassing yourself

    • @NJDRONEMAN
      @NJDRONEMAN Год назад +5

      Sad my boss lives here in his 3 million dollar home … can’t rely on this dept !!

    • @cluckhead1913
      @cluckhead1913 Год назад

      @@NJDRONEMAN The house appears to be divided up to accommodate six different dwellings judging by the fire escapes. I'd say that more than a few code violations could be to blame. Maybe your boss can shed some light on this not so trivial matter?

    • @bfirefighter3
      @bfirefighter3 Год назад

      @@NJDRONEMAN your boss is part of the problem. Multi million dollar homes yet not enough paid staff?

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@bfirefighter3His boss doesn't hire the firefighters, asshole.

  • @timmason4136
    @timmason4136 Год назад +3

    Your towder latter did a whloe lot of NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess that whole thing was !!!!!!!!!!!!. I just sat here and laughed the whole time .

  • @browndigity420
    @browndigity420 Год назад +4

    I've just recently discovered your videos, great content first of all. I'm always surprised how long it actually takes for water to get onto the fire...keep up the great work and stay safe

  • @ronfreniere8769
    @ronfreniere8769 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hopefully there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident, yeah to bad that hydrant blow, had that happen to me on a car fire.
    That and the high winds combined to spread the fire.
    Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.

  • @mattalexander8925
    @mattalexander8925 10 месяцев назад +3

    Any type of apartment fire sucks, I feel for the residents that had to go through it. I worked a rough one when I was with Red Cross a while ago and it was tough to work through because that particular fire had a lot of moving parts to it.

  • @charlesdalton6262
    @charlesdalton6262 11 месяцев назад +3

    Once the chief officer was made aware of a faulty hydrant. Shut that hydrant down ,reconnect to the next nearest working hydrant .First operating line to the front door secure egress for occupants .Start a 2Nd line to back up the first .Interior stairs need protection .That air horn I believe indicates exterior attack is now underway ,Units need to back out.However portable ladders on all exposures is critical for victims . The tower ladder needs to open up ,Sad to see so many high volume hoses dry .Water needs to be pumped into Engine companies Lots of white hats ,very little organization .This went from fire showing in the rear to total loss

  • @NJDRONEMAN
    @NJDRONEMAN Год назад +20

    Wtf easy knock down with tank water . Idk what the hell is going on in the fire service anymore . Good video again Ryan thanks

    • @Gemini_-rb2du
      @Gemini_-rb2du Год назад +6

      Exactly! 14 minutes before it was even hit with a hose... wtf 😤

    • @K7008B
      @K7008B Год назад +3

      @@Gemini_-rb2du Don't these pumpers have at least a 500 gallon booter tank?? And how about while they're standing around, throwing up some portable ladders to the 2nd floor windows and the exposure for anyone performing a search for life inside??!!

    • @Gemini_-rb2du
      @Gemini_-rb2du Год назад +1

      @@K7008B Exactly! Most do... I've watched hundreds of these kinds of videos, and they all take 10-15 minutes of valuable time before water hits the structure 😤

    • @alljourney2834
      @alljourney2834 Год назад +1

      they would of had water quicker if the hydrant didn't break. Also who said it was a quick knock down. What about interior fire and shit that isn't visible from the outside

    • @alljourney2834
      @alljourney2834 Год назад +1

      @@K7008B 500 gallons is absolutely nothing. 1 hose line will go through all of that in the 1-3 minutes

  • @cynthiaarnold5807
    @cynthiaarnold5807 Год назад +9

    So sad to watch this. All I can say if you live in this area make sure your fire insurance is paid. These bozos are what some of the fire depts have become. Lots of certificates for training but don't know what to on the scene in the real world. Our local fire company is like this. I just pray the other 3 township and city fire companies get to our place first. They are to busy fighting amongst each other. Who has more power. The chief is a joke.

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад +1

      The Hydrant Broke, that's on the Township Water Department who is supposed to inspect them, not the fire department.

    • @joemara9801
      @joemara9801 Год назад

      @@njtpa1975 Wrong. FD inspects and run hydrants periodically. City flushes line to keep clean

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад

      @@joemara9801 not here, Fire is Volunteer so they have nothing to do with it. Water Department is paid, they handle everything.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 Год назад

      Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are talking about

  • @joechina1621
    @joechina1621 Год назад +3

    Was this a planned burn?

  • @TheFenrisDragon
    @TheFenrisDragon Год назад +2

    A Fire truck with no water onboard. Especial A first responder..... Damme.

  • @acmext
    @acmext Год назад +3

    What exactly were they trying to accomplish with that tower 2? Placing yourself in the flow path of superheated gasses. Makes lots of sense. How about drop your worthless hook and flow some water in that window.

  • @Bobbyd0052
    @Bobbyd0052 Год назад +15

    GREAT JOB ,ON THE VIDEO ! NASTY WIND ! SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF PROPERTY ! HOPE ALL MADE IT HOME SAFE ! THANK YOU ! 🇺🇲

    • @xaxoon69
      @xaxoon69 Год назад +3

      It would be a great job if several fire engines arrived quickly, the fire was extinguished quickly and there was as little damage as possible. I only saw one house that, despite dozens of firefighters and vehicles, ended up almost completely burned out. My opinion.

    • @bobbys1984
      @bobbys1984 Год назад +1

      Another loss, nothing changed

  • @semproniodensso3353
    @semproniodensso3353 Год назад +3

    Were can I find the books about putting fires under control by washing the smoke???...thanks
    Deckgunning from water on board at 500 gpm by 20 seconds, had lowered fire intensity by 90% using 170 gallons, and still remain 300 gallons for interior attack.
    A wind with that speed didn´t affect so much a 500 gpm stream, in fact the applied hand streams still reach the building and beyond.

  • @46fd04
    @46fd04 Год назад +10

    The opening of the video appeared to show fire on the 2nd floor, advancing down (possibly the staircase) from above. Had I been first on scene and conducted a 360, I think my crew and I would have gone thru the front door with a handline, found the staircase, and advanced up the stairs as far as we safely could. Would that have made a difference? Maybe. Maybe not. It was wind-driven. They're tough to fight.

    • @markevan1
      @markevan1 Год назад +1

      They did that. It's in the description of the video.

    • @bobbys1984
      @bobbys1984 Год назад +1

      @@markevan1if they did that, then they wouldn’t have lost the entire house from a single room fire

    • @markevan1
      @markevan1 Год назад

      @@bobbys1984 No one said it was a single room on arrival.

    • @bobbys1984
      @bobbys1984 Год назад +1

      @@markevan1 I have eyes. there was no no fire or smoke showing from any other windows. and i can tell they never hit any fire till it extended into the attic.

    • @markevan1
      @markevan1 Год назад

      @@bobbys1984 And how do you know where it had already extended to? You know houses have a rear as well as a front, and you can't see the stairwell from outside. I hope you're not a firefighter.They did enter with a line and I'm sure there was a good reason why they couldn't get to the room you are obsessed with.

  • @ArtistJGH
    @ArtistJGH Год назад +1

    Glad we don’t live in this district. They seem more concerned with playing with the hoses than getting water on the fire. Almost seems inept.

  • @billmahnken915
    @billmahnken915 Год назад +5

    Oh my all that pretty equipment and nobody knows how to use it, I hear they haven't lost a foundation yet.

  • @Jacob-mm8xq
    @Jacob-mm8xq Год назад +5

    That wind just making things grow so fast

  • @Denver645
    @Denver645 Год назад +14

    Shame on that town for not maintaining their hydrants

    • @bobby_D
      @bobby_D Год назад +6

      And the taxes are no joke there.

    • @cluckhead1913
      @cluckhead1913 Год назад

      Typically the FD maintains the hydrants.

    • @bdsisti
      @bdsisti Год назад

      @@cluckhead1913not really. This is a small town at the Jersey shore.

    • @judis.1810
      @judis.1810 Год назад

      I think NJ water company would be the ones to make sure every single hydrant was to work right, no matter what. God Bless each and every person at this horrific fire!

    • @alexkitner5356
      @alexkitner5356 Год назад

      While it can vary from town to town, the water company often is the one that flushes and checks hydrants but there's zero guarantee that it cannot fail under use or from defects that can't be seen. They go around, open, flush and close the hydrant, they aren't hooking fire engines up or subjecting them to high flows, forces from the hoses that are attached, water hammer- and to do so would be logistically impossible. The simple flushing they do takes probably 10-15 minutes all in after doing it and doing the associated paperwork and then driving 500 feet to the next. Thats maybe 30 hydrants per day, when you have a hydrant every 500-1000 feet on average or about a square mile a day if they can keep up that cadence. Its not on the fire department and not realistic that the every plug can be tested regularly enough or thoroughly enough that failures can be completely eliminated.

  • @Mtom0789
    @Mtom0789 Год назад +1

    i wonder if they can get air support and drop water on the fire like for forst fires

  • @wilgerdes3240
    @wilgerdes3240 8 месяцев назад

    ...never ceases to amaze me that they don't immediately start pumping from the engine tank as they establish their hydrant supply...they have a minimum of 500 gallons to start an attack line; engineer hasn't even charged one line! Not to mention bringing up the deck gun to knock down some fire from outside while the initial attack line is stretched...SOP needs some Serious reevaluation...

  • @Nade375
    @Nade375 Год назад +3

    What was the manpower on the first engine? Driver only? No crew got off that first piece! Guys came walking up afterwards. I’d be at every town council meeting after this if I lived in that town demanding to know what my fire tax dollars are going towards! Did the first due engine not come with tank water? A well place 1 3/4 could have knocked that down with 500 gallons!

  • @michelleford634
    @michelleford634 Год назад +15

    This is so sad. Someone somewhere not only dropped the ball in regards to the hydrant, they then kicked the ball down the road and out of sight. What a loss.

    • @jspriver
      @jspriver Год назад +4

      We did hydrants twice a year. flushed in the simmer, pumped dry in the fall. Every hydrant in the city, every year.

  • @stephenpappalardo9758
    @stephenpappalardo9758 Год назад +1

    Wtf guys!! This department needs a revamp what a shame,, if I owned that home I would be pissed the hell off !! 😡

  • @edwardjamessolo
    @edwardjamessolo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Watch Stockton California fire videos. Some of the most badass firefighters in this country

  • @richardthornton3051
    @richardthornton3051 Год назад +2

    Ps sorry for the loss of this apt house as am glad everyone got out

  • @FrankTrocchio
    @FrankTrocchio Год назад +2

    About time they got water the the original fire sight. Very frustrating for these guys. Whomever is responsible for inspecting those hydrants, need to be held accountable in every way.

  • @daleannphillips3730
    @daleannphillips3730 Год назад +8

    The wind was no joke….

    • @semproniodensso3353
      @semproniodensso3353 Год назад

      80 or 120 years with fires in these windy conditions...wind it´s the last and least culprit!!!.

  • @jebcommon2332
    @jebcommon2332 11 месяцев назад +1

    What? No Tanker ? Get water on the fire immediately!! Doesn' t make sense at all that there's such a delay . Thirteen fricking minutes to get water going. So much for training.

  • @ThePickleSlicer
    @ThePickleSlicer Год назад +1

    Beautiful house

  • @howiecowell6645
    @howiecowell6645 Год назад +4

    My only question is why did they wait so long to get water on the backside of the house where they coulda knocked the fire down faster instead of three lines on the side with hardly any effect...normally I say Great job to fellow firefighters but this one is lacking some direction from the chiefs...

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад

      The Fire Hydrant Broke

  • @theshadow4292
    @theshadow4292 Год назад +9

    Well, It is hard for me to believe, but for the first time in my long life, I have viewed a video where a paid department was so discombobulated in their initial attack (i.e. lack thereof) on the fire, it actually was overwhelmingly embarrassing to watch. Hellfire and Damnation a small squad of Boy Scouts with a garden hose would have made a better attempt at suppressing the fire than the Jersey Shore Fire Department did with 3 pumpers, a Ladder Platform Truck, and 12-15 firefighters. The department allowed the fire to grow from a room fire in the attic section of the home to a fire that consumed the entire 3rd floor and part of the 2nd floor of the house before the fire was brought under control. Yeah, I know, the wind was a factor, the fire hydrant was a factor, the 2nd pumper had no idea as to how to lay a supply line to the 1st pumper was a factor etc. etc. etc. albeit, excuses do not extinguish fires. It is well-trained firefighters who overcome problems as they happen and do what they are trained to do that saves lives and property !!!

  • @Sea-cucumber1151
    @Sea-cucumber1151 Год назад +1

    So they did three blasts early thought that was evacuate or mayday, then they did multiple 2 long blasts, what does that mean? Calling for more help? Or does everyone do it differently?

  • @Scott-il1fk
    @Scott-il1fk 8 дней назад

    I am retired FF. If you have never attacked a fire then hold your comment.. I do agree that hydrant assessment na domain was lacking. I also agree that an initial deck gun attack MIGHT have helped but you never do that unless you KNOW you have a water supply on the way. In this case that was not possible. High winds made this very hard to attack. SO over all I think these folks did a reasonable job and I am sure they all took it personally. Not all department have tankers so keep that in mind.

  • @tamraanne4066
    @tamraanne4066 Год назад +3

    They really need to go around and check fire hydrants on a regular basis. All over the country.

    • @kc0eks
      @kc0eks Год назад

      I see them flush and tested a few times a year here (Colorado)

    • @njtpa1975
      @njtpa1975 Год назад

      They do, twice a year, Fall and Spring.

  • @nayanpanchal39
    @nayanpanchal39 Год назад +2

    Great video

  • @pamhofmeister2531
    @pamhofmeister2531 Год назад

    Wonderful video. Great job...🤗🤗

  • @darkvalebrewer93
    @darkvalebrewer93 Год назад +3

    Was there no water supply on any of the Appliances? If there is then there is no reason why they couldn't start knocking that fire back at least. I know the hydrant failed but there should still be a supply on the truck. No urgency with crew at all . A line should be active within a minute of arriving

  • @sr53085
    @sr53085 Год назад +2

    Bro, did u really say the 2nd floor looks compromised?!?! I mean, obviously it’s compromised bc the roof and attic are collapsed on to it 😂😂😂

  • @debbieplace16
    @debbieplace16 Год назад +1

    Jeez, was that the Keystone Cops fighting that fire?

  • @thomasfiori7259
    @thomasfiori7259 9 месяцев назад +1

    My thing is after the hydrant blew why didn't they get there hard suction tube off and dump it into the lake behind them they would have had plenty of water then

  • @nelsonde
    @nelsonde Год назад +13

    So a deck gun and 750 gallons aren't an option?

    • @Tac0Tuesday91
      @Tac0Tuesday91 Год назад +3

      I would applaud you if your able to find a deck gun on that engine

    • @nelsonde
      @nelsonde Год назад

      ​@@Tac0Tuesday91 it should have some sort of monitor, but heck, a hand line from the ground at least.

    • @Tac0Tuesday91
      @Tac0Tuesday91 Год назад +2

      @@nelsonde it’s got a monitor in the rear, and a 50 foot stick. No need for the monitor since there’s no exposure issue

    • @Steve-cu1ye
      @Steve-cu1ye Год назад +2

      They don't know how to use it

    • @peterarvanitis6497
      @peterarvanitis6497 Год назад +2

      @@Steve-cu1ye oh please

  • @rickmontgomery3037
    @rickmontgomery3037 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good grief, those winds look fierce!! :(

  • @wilgerdes3240
    @wilgerdes3240 8 месяцев назад +1

    ... not even 10 minutes on scene & Chief Surround & Drown has called to evacuate the building!!! If U can't stand the heat, become an ambulance driver!

  • @harrisontiemann3276
    @harrisontiemann3276 11 месяцев назад +2

    They seriously need more help

  • @raymondroysr.
    @raymondroysr. Год назад +1

    what happen to the tower ladder you use it now it gone now you have a mess with the roof fully in flames an now into the 2nd floor you lose it why is that you did not use the ladder truck?

  • @mar4oz
    @mar4oz Год назад +2

    You by far deal with the worst cops in all fire videos out there!

  • @mrinfelix4574
    @mrinfelix4574 Год назад +2

    This is a joke, comedy gold. It's a film about how to "NOT" put water onto a fire?

  • @chewybacca11
    @chewybacca11 Год назад +2

    I've only watched maybe 5 minutes of the video, and it's pretty bad.
    First thing right off the bat, if where you want to stage is super close to the hydrant, don't snub the hydrant just to lay in 15 feet. Park you truck where it's going to be so people can get to work, and hand jack your supply line to the hydrant. It's WAYYY faster/more efficient than what you did. And don't even worry about your water supply until you got a line charged.
    Speaking of having a line charged... HAVE A LINE CHARGED!!! Oh my gosh get some freaking hose on the ground and go inside! Tank water is sufficient for the majority of fires and looks like it would have put this one out if you were fast enough. The fire is growing, and growing, and growing! You need to work on your speed for sure

  • @jspriver
    @jspriver Год назад +12

    Does anybody in that area do interior attacks or is it always surround and drown ?

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 Год назад +5

      They did an interior attack
      You should have a clue before typing and embarrassing yourself

    • @mikehoysler4322
      @mikehoysler4322 Год назад

      @@virgilhilts3924I feel sorry for you as every response is mean and/or sarcastic. Being a dick is a choice and you ought to start choosing better. With all your “experience” maybe try teaching vs humiliating?

    • @davescott2485
      @davescott2485 Год назад +3

      @@virgilhilts3924 'No, I didn't actually watch the video...Just thought I'd show up and criticize cause that's all I know how to do'... probably not bright enough to feel embarrassed.

    • @Lightbarrescue
      @Lightbarrescue Год назад +11

      I agree as a firefighter for 21 years . I feel like guys are afraid to do there job anymore . I’m a firm believer in a 2- 1/2 and a aggressive investor attack

    • @jspriver
      @jspriver Год назад +3

      @@Lightbarrescue every seat has a job. Truck guys VES, engine get two lines in, pull the ceiling and get at it.

  • @pamhofmeister2531
    @pamhofmeister2531 Год назад +8

    I think between the wind and water issues made this a very hard fire to fight. Especially the wind. God bless the the firefighters that had to deal with all the issues. Remember the video can't show you everything that they are doing and what issues they are dealing with.

  • @bosking9533
    @bosking9533 Год назад

    I would have pulled the first engine up some more put 2.5 through the the if possible and hit it with the deck gun until I have an soild water supply

  • @georgecoons6872
    @georgecoons6872 Год назад +1

    Tucson Arizona fire would have used foam on that fire. As every house fire.

  • @mikemayfield487
    @mikemayfield487 2 дня назад

    Useless Dept. Regardless of what the circumstances !!!
    Doing nothing brings no results!!! Where are the volunteers when we need them!! THEY can fix this!!!

  • @nancyniewoehner7881
    @nancyniewoehner7881 Год назад +1

    I was beginning to think the gas was still turned on.

  • @JohnpaulDejoria666
    @JohnpaulDejoria666 Год назад +2

    Look at this, 5 guys trying to get into the bucket to cut a peaked roof dwelling. Savages

  • @brianfalco6567
    @brianfalco6567 Год назад

    Why 3 lines on rear of house spraying water on thinks that are not burning??

  • @georgemitchell9222
    @georgemitchell9222 Год назад +1

    did they ever figure out how it started ?

  • @stephenwhite546
    @stephenwhite546 Год назад +1

    Tuff to watch not a very aggressive department . Fire insurance must be through the roof.

  • @thcode4
    @thcode4 Год назад +2

    Great video, but really sad to see, this looks like these guys are implementing Detroits policy, “just let it burn” don’t they have tank water to get water on fire in 4 minutes not 24 min granted the wind didn’t help but sad to see lack of urgency or response.

  • @Avalanche2
    @Avalanche2 Год назад +3

    This channel should be renamed, how not to fire fight.