Ukraine withdraws Abrams tanks from front line amid barrage of drone attacks I Ukraine: The Latest
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- Day 790.
Today, we discuss the latest news from Ukraine as the Ukrainian armed forces remove American Abrams tanks from the front line. We deep-dive into the capabilities of the ATACMS missiles and we hear from a British volunteer who works in front line villages across the East of Ukraine.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Head of Audio Development). @djknowles22 on X.
Dominic Nicholls(Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on X.
Joe Barnes(Brussels Correspondent). @Barnes_Joe on X.
Lauren Shirreff (Journalist). @laurenshirreff on X.
With thanks to Minty Gow (Freelance journalist and volunteer). @aramintagow on X.
Articles & organisations referenced:
Why Russia is targeting planes
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ne...
Hopeful (British charity)
www.hopefull.org.uk/
Joe Barnes on ATACAMS
www.telegraph.co.uk/world-new...
Subscribe to The Telegraph: telegraph.co.uk/ukrainethelatest
Email: ukrainepod@telegraph.co.uk
Tanks that are not allowed to be on the front lines… ROFL.
Bagdad BOB is alive!
Buh buh buh i thought russians only had shovels
"No Russian break through? " Youre one hell of a TRY HARD ! Propagandist 🤣
Remember Bagdad BoB?
But they are a game changer
What are?
U guys are a bunch of goofs
I listened to this entire show, and I have to ask - do the hosts actually believe this misinformation, or do they just accept their job is to keep the general public from knowing what's happening?
Whats the misinfo? Its easy to verify whether Abrams are at the front or not. This war gets recorded by drone cameras 24/7
@@diIbert so much! No mention of the Russians gaining 11 sq km in a day (recall Ukriane's offensive gained 10 sq km in 3 months!). No mention of units in Ukrainian brigades surrendering, then Sirsky dissolving the entire brigades for fear more might throw down their arms. No mention of the film of defenders of Ocheretyne running away the day the Russian army arrived at the village. Nope! Just more positivity; best not to let the plebs wonder if those billions of $$/££s are a good investment! It's all sunshine and roses, Zelensky will conquer Moscow any day now!
@@picklethepirate Exactly.
Well paid to lie.
I think it might be the latter
Telegraph is a British cope channel
The owner of the channel were Rupert Murdoch's lackeys and most of them inplicated on the Paradise Papers scandals.
The reason why they talk good for zelensky's Ukraine is because the clown in charge have jailed ihor kolomoisky the banker from whose banks move their money.
Like many people said in other places of the world: "He got them by the balls."
How useful is a battle tank that is not usable on the frontlines?
If youre useful but not usable, then youre actually useless.
Maybe Abrams need to get the turtle tank upgrade package.
Sorry wrong comment am mid bot fight 😂
@@dancoy09 Botfly? Yeah, they are dangerous.
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Is it working for the Ruzzians? Nope.
@@anthonyhulse1248 It was used to push to the midle of Krasnohorivka and ruterned undamaged 10 days ago, the town is falling now
Never call a war machine 'game changer' while the only thing it faced was farmers with sandals and ak47. The tank was not battle tested. Now its being tested.
Absolutely true. During first gulf War the US had a major technological advantage over the Iraqi. Mainly satellite positioning and reconnaissance, night vision and thermal sighting systems. This wasn't a peer combat test of the M1 abrams. 30 years later the world militaries all have this capability. The 2nd iraq war was bacially like clubbing baby seals.
a tank who needs to refuel every 8h is a garbage tank.. who in his right mind thought it would be a good idea to give a tank a jet engine with the heat signature of a vulcano adn the fuel consumptionn of a small town?!
The Abram was designed to fight off a Soviet invasion with extensive air support.
It was not supposed to be sitting in front of three miles of mines as drones and glide bombs fly unabated.
F-16 and anti-air ammunition will allow it to take on a defense role, but it is still unless for offensive purposes until some combat engineers deal with the minefields.
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It's multifuel.
It will run on anything
@@marseldagistani1989 It is more efficient running on JP-8.
The Daily Delusional podcast with our schoolboy analysts. If the war wasn’t so tragic, this series would be an hilarious spoof.
So we are being asked to believe that a Russian cargo ship moored in a Chinese port since February 3 for repairs is being actively used to transport North Korean ammunition to Russia. That was THREE MONTHS ago. So how many more months will it take before it docks in a Russian port?
A long time.
Concern troll tankie gammon. Who cares.
Don’t ask reasonable questions. Just accept the narrative
The latest is the front is falling back every day.
$61 bn doesn't reanimate the dead.
It protects the living minus the invaders
But it pays to turn the aggressor into cargo 200 and that's always good money spend.
I forgot about that meme @@Shokkwavez
No, but it helps the living.
Indeed nor 😞 the USA doesn't make itself loved does it?
Liar, liar pants on fire. And Ukraine about to crumble.
Did the really say 5 Ukraniand died yesterday, and Russia is averaging 800++ a day dead?
Yup, he's smoking some heavy weight crack alright
Hard to believe, isn't it.😉
😅😅😅😅😅😅 the Telegraph is good for a laugh
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At least 800. RuZZian tactics suck for the ordinary man.
My last thoughts. Desperation increasing. Europe going down
Yes Ukraine is winning 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
The tide is turning
@@anthonyhulse1248😂😂😂😂😂
@@anthonyhulse1248 Yes. Except it is going out for Ukraine.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂good joke👍🏻
@@anthonyhulse1248The Russians just advanced in two days roughly the depth of the 2023 Ukrainian offensive. On two recent occasions, elements of two AFU brigades have taken a runner to a degree that can’t be disguised. That’s an ebb tide.
British comedy is well and alive on this channel
zelensky is le churchill of today can't be topped tho, they memed way too hard out the gate to top now
@@captainahab9602 He is outstanding though. The comedian that got the taxi driving manlet Putin to get stuck in the mud in a neighbouring country for 2+ years, with no way end in sight.
@@stream2watch is that a script directly from cnn at this point or just the brain rot?
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Putin is the biggest joke
I suppose americans can say the abrams lasted longer than the challenger 2
That will go in the Sales Pamphlets
They last longer than Russian tank crews. Western tanks keep their crews alive.
@@alien4422 Yeah that's a key point.
@@williampatton7476blyat mobile crews definitely outlast
@@max_skim-pontoon-cough💥 outblast 💥
But but it's the best tank in the world according to ukrobots
Why withdraw the best tank in the world??😂😂😂
Shovels are Stronger 😂
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qrbots are bots 🤖
Not a sentient comment
Why the grinning faces?
ukrobots macronists globalists propagandists hh
I always like to come here to get a fair and balanced show🤣🤣
Its balanced between bandera and hitler w more delusion
Propaganda demo
Turtle tank > Abrams
Because FPV meta
Lol, american tanks didn't even last 2 months against Russia before being chased off the battlefield. 😂😂😂
True😅
@@Mman. No, not true. The report is false. The Ukrainian 47th Mech Bde released a statement yesterday that the Abrams tanks are very much on the battlefield and are the best armoured vehicles in the war.
Cool story bro, so why are all of them hiding while one of them is displayed publically in Moscow like a piece of modern art made of twisted metal? Weird.
@larspatriksson4744 please look up the Russian museum of nato equipment on display in Russia.
The heat signature from the Abrams jet engines means they can be immediately detected and removed... combined with their excessevie weight which has made them useless in the mud.
Those engines are ridiculously hot but its great to get warm in winter or to heat up some coffee in a canteen cup.
Then why send them in the first place
@@michaelpetrovich5353 they ( the US military) resisted for a while saying they weren't suitable ....the 'journalists' were clamouring for them...maybe why that's why the USA sent them after a while
As if RU has routine access to IR. They do not.
@@michaelpetrovich5353because the abrams were not real battle tested against a real army all they ever fought was untrained undersupplied and overwhelmed without air support opposition. This is nothing new lots of military equipment in history became obsolete because of the opposite technology. In this case drones.
another NATO wonder weapon failed to change the game
Run Forest, run 😂
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@@dancoy09 NAFO shill lashing out again xD
What a pile of BS😂😂😂
Why do our defenders of democracies move backward instead of forward?
31! 31 tanks . That's a joke.
And Ukraine was expected to sweep away Russia's frontline with just a few dozen tanks. The West is a joke.
I know combined arms manoeuvre warfare is designed to allow a smaller number of troops to engage a larger army, but 31 tanks? Seriously?
@@chrisviking7807 " The West is a joke." Yet everybody wants to live here, most of all "the east"
@@chrisviking7807 Manoeuvre warfare is fancy term they use to fight guys with sandals in Middle East, thinking they are smart. It does not work against stronger army.
The mighty heavy tank brought low by a plastic toy, surely a turning point in military doctrine.
It’ll definitely be interesting. People said the same thing when anti tank weapons became common in WWII
@@fitycalibre7555 Still no other way to bring mobile heavy firepower, so tank will adapt and persist.
It’s happened to 4000 Ruzzian tanks
But really, it is like the game Rock, Paper Scissors. Everything is susceptible to something. That is why there is always a need for combined arms. And if Ukraine has 5 out of 7 of the combined arms tools, the 5 arms they have will be susceptible to the angles that would have been protected by the 2 missing arms.
@@anthonyhulse1248and somehow all of them are replaced.
Two things. Either the number is a total lie or Russia military industry production is so overwhelming and superior to all the west.
Pick your poison Tony.
The turtle tanks look funny but are no joke. They were designed to defend against drones and seem to be working. The AFU needs to turtlize their tanks including the Abrams. I think the turtle tanks may be a significant game changer.
The turtle tanks are there to transport RU meat. Not to shoot. RU have no other transport left and the chinese golf carts offer no drone protection.
@@rmdomainer9042 They need some work. But the concept seems so far the best. The chain link cages might be more promising. Apparently the full body shield seems to be stopping the drones better than the cope cages.
@@michaeldarling1759 I believe they are only good at hiding the fried meat from the scout drones, thereby making our morning coffee distraction less amusing.
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Ukraine was making joke and laughing about the turtle tank when first picture went public. Not laughing now.
„We don’t know why the Russians jam GPS in that area“
Could it be to jam the NATO supplied missiles and Ukrainian drones that are GPS guided? 😂
Storm shadow is air launched. We’ve heard little to nothing about Ukrainian Air Force, but they are obviously still active. Come on telegraph crew, what’s the state of Ukrainian Air Force?
Dead, that is why they are trying to get F-16's to replace the MiG-29's that they have lost. The F-16 is a lightweight fighter warplane with very limited payload, combat radius and range, inferior in many ways to the Soviet-era adversary, the MiG-29's that Ukraine had.
Still seeing SU25 and Mig 29 weekly. Says something about Russia. No air supremacy after 2+ years of war.
@@stream2watch Says something more about Soviet technology, doesn't it?😱
@@stream2watch I'd stop watching TopGun with the glass or two of rose.
@@richardmarsden5610 Also, stop upvoting yourself, boy on the spectrum.
Static frontline? I am not there so who am I to dispute this.
Says a bot 🤖
@@dancoy09that's something a bot might say 😂
Its not hard to find out. There are plenty of analysts using open, semi-open and private info to produce and publish maps. Personally I like the ISW maps, Deep State also have a good rep, various others exist.
@@imipak23 ISW maps? Toria Nuland's sister-in-law, Kim Kagan's, organization?🤣🤣🤣
It helps these brits sleep at night.
Lol
"The lines are pretty static" 15.00 😁
Bagdad bob is back = The Telegraph !!
This channel is a joke 😂
😂😂😂 the west is dead and they are oblivious
The entire British media and military exoerts boasted that Abrams, Challenger, and Leopards tanks will smash the Russians.😂😂😂😂 Continue to lie in the face of Ukraine disastrous situations.
And Ruzzian tanks have been smashed in their thousands.
We see about 300 RU wrecks outside Avdiivka and 300 more outside mikhaylovka . Geolocated, with video of their destruction. How many emojis does that warrant, kiddo?
All tanks get bogged down by Ukraine’s Marshal Mud and drones. Supply of a small number of Abrams and Challengers was really an inducement and first mover cover for the supply of Leopards en masse given German reluctance. Actually, there is a lack of Leopards still on the ground and many are earlier versions of this superb weapon.
By contrast, Russian tank losses now exceeds 3,000, mostly due to anti tank weaponry, but also tank crew incompetence, poor training. Driving a tank is quite different to a tractor.
@@anthonyhulse1248 Sure, but they have the capacity to replace them and have. People don't seem to have learnt lessons from history. Hitler found this out nearly 80 years ago.
The game changing Abrams 😂
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Zelenski Bot malfunction
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@@dancoy09 NAFO shill lashing out again xD
@@dancoy09 10 speeds in reverse is noting to sneeze at, Danny.
@@ReichLifecut and paste addict.
Waitin fot the F16 THE GAMECHANGER LOL
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@@dancoy09 cry some more 😂
@@vincentnielsen317hey bot your potatoes are on the way comrade 🫡🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔
@@dancoy09 thanks buddy. 10$ drones are also on the way to melt nato equipment rn 🤣🤣
@@vincentnielsen317 Yet the drone superiority is fully in Ukraine's favour.
💙Slava ukraini 💛🇺🇦🇺🇸
"Game changer" lololo
Even after several years of NATO training Ukrainians have a long way to go for Western capabilities with weapons and strategies.
USUk have never lost a MTB in combat,Ukraine have lost several.
Most of the aid package seems to stay in the US? And the package that goes to Ukraine had no figures presented, numbers of artillery shells etc? Anybody knows more about that?
Maybe we've reached the point in modern conventional warfare where tanks are now obsolete. They've had a good run these past 100 years, but when they can be taken out with cheap drones...
So true 😂😂😂😂🤣
It's hard to believe that the Western nations denied Russia's application into NATO back in the 50s.
Don or is it Dom can't even pick his nose properly without poking himself in the eye
Do not conflate DOM with your mom and her clients.
@@stream2watch will try but I think dom might be one of her clients he come round to get his back shaved
multiply 800 by the number of days of "special military operation" = support from ccp
What does that even MEAN?
It’s Dom dumbass
Need to invest in some Blyatmobiles
And some of those Chinese ATVs, now that the MT-LB is turning into a rarity.
@@stream2watch Who needs that Chinese stuff? Nahh man, superior Russian army only needs horses. They double as transportation and rations! Modern problems require modern solutions and all that. well, they don't have all that many horses, but maybe one man acts like horse, and other man ride him into battle.
@@gogudelagaze1585 If they train the horses to eat mobik meat instead of rye, they will not need to bring food to the front.
@@stream2watch That's genius! A self sustaining ecosystem of murder and poop, much like the rest of the Kremlin. We should partner up and suggest this idea, although I think they're already testing it out in phases - see the glorious Mobik Cube
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Everyone already predicted: things will get worse before they get better. We can't give up, we have to keep pushing!
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How come Russia has so many drones that tanks have to be withdrawn? I thought Russia was technologically backwards and our sanctions had stopped them building any?
Because they disassemble their washing machines, microwaves and refrigerators, plus smart toilets stolen in Ukraine, all electronic stuffing is only from there. Now all Russians wash clothes in basins and go to poop in holes in the floor.
Well, or because in the collective West, for the most part, there are a very large number of morons who believe in such propaganda by their biased mass media and in Russia everything is much better than it is shown on TV.
I'm generally something of a fan of U:TL and have been listening regularly (as part of a healthy balanced media diet.) However I'm sorry to say that most of the things said about GPS jamming / spoofing was factually incorrect, apart from the gen from the airline pilot.
It isn't all that effective pushing the airfields another 15 minutes flying time further away from the border. Forcing the basing airfields into Russia proper might make them use a more circuitous route and limit the number of bombs carried by each aircraft as the necessary fuel load increases. This is a slightly better outcome as it increases op tempo and maintenance needs / pilot fatigue but they are still untouchable within Russian airspace by Allied systems with the current ROE.
The only way to stop the use of glide bombs is F16's loaded with long range air to air missiles like Phonix and Meteor with authorisation to take out threat aircraft before they reach dropping range. A Patriot control module and radar might be able to LINK16 the firing solution data to a CAP within Ukrainian airspace and out of range of Russian AA/AD and SHORAD if that has been developed.
Alternatively, configuring AMRAAM and equivalent medium range 75-125 mile missiles to be launched by NSAMS against the bombs/bombers might work at keeping them at bay. Either way an effective no-fly zone above 1991 Ukrainian lands is needed whether it be by the EU air forces or Ukrainian operated systems.
As to UAV strike packages, they need to be accompanied by either F16's in a Wild Weasel role or drones/HARM missiles that can be controlled or programmed to do SAED/DEAD duty. And a bunch of drones/missiles that can broadcast spoofing radar returns would be a good idea as well.
But then again, what does a long out of uniform sapper know about current equipment and tactics.
Edit. I should have waited until the end of the podcast, some of my points were covered already 😜
I was shocked at the misinformation in this podcast but after reading the comments feel much better. Thank God I am not the only one. This is propaganda worthy of Goebbles.
I think what they really need is the bob semple this time.
I am utterly frustrated and disturbed by events. I think of my farther who in 1939, at the age of 25 volunteered as war was declared. He ended up as a flight Lieutenant Pathfinder Pilot in bomber command. 35 squadron. Not much chance of my following in his footsteps now. I am a 72 year old builder, now retired and a resident of rural Carmarthenshire since 1979.
If it can't operate on the frontlines then it's garbage
Here waiting for f-16 withdrawal.
A reinforced Division to hold a couple of villages, is indicative of RU capability if true.
But but I thought this was suppose to change the tide of the war 😂
USA & NATO need to get off this Carrot on a stick B. S. & GET SERIOUS!
The Ukr soldiers should protect their NATO tanks.
With tanks they should have withdraw entire population.
Just stop buying chinese stuff (a challenge in itself), but when it comes to cars etc, just a smart choice not to invest in crappy quality.
Lol those thin cans are not working 😂
Im pretty sure the Ukrainian didn't have the decision to pull these tabks back, im pretty sure if the Ukrainian didnt pull these tabks back then the money would've been withheld.
Im certain American industrial complex didnt like to see their tanks being destroyed by a few hundred dollar drone, and order Ukraine to oull their tabks out if the fight.
What about installing anti-jamming equipment on aircraft?
Hearing of the next Ukraine offensive will make many as uncomfortable as Bud Light hiring Dylan Mulvaney for another advertising offensive.
Great show. Thanks for keeping us updated. from a Irish guy listening from Australia
Does the apperance of turtle shell armour on Russian tanks etc mean that the drone war, is effectively over? Will the West have to dedign specific ordinance for drones?
Of course not. It is a shell on a tank. ww1 tech.
Radio frequencies, 2 (or more) stations aimed at transactions set to cancel each would form a void that might then be picked up as a something.
Ukraine is advancing
Have there been any tank vs tank battles in this war?
Abrams versus T-72B3M. The M1A1 SA did not know what hit it.
it was, but very rarely. Russian tanks have always won because they are better and more modern than NATO tanks.
Not involving the abrams. 5 of the 31 Abrams given to Ukraine have been destroyed by fpv drone.
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The only think those tanks can serve is to train Russian artillerists how to them.
War is lost but keep sending money 🤑🤑🤑🤑
Game changer
Yep, it's now a game of hide and seek.
I'm listening to this on April 26, 9:00 PM (DST), in Fresno, CA. Love your analysis! thanks.
Amazingly Macron is correct!! ..
I’ve always been of the opinion that the Abrams just isn’t the tank for Ukraine. So the title feels vindicating at least.
I would argue they are pulling them back specifically to preserve them until they can figure out how to handle the drone threat effectively enough. Not a admission of defeat at all
It got the Germans to allow Leopards to be sent.
Wow, the hosts don’t even raise a brow when they discuss the millions of refugees in Europe and Poland + other countries starting to work with 🇺🇦 to deport them back for conscription. As if it’s normal 😁😂
To the last
Deported to dye.
Subject request: Recently Timothy Snyder described what will happen if Ukraine will loose. It may be interesting to give this subject a bit more attention. What will the west loose if Ukraine looses.
this guy don't know what he's talking about the Challenger 3 is being equipped with the trophy system this will have no problem with the Drones it can take out rocket propelled grenades and missiles
So Challenger 3 is even more 'invincible' than the 2 was propagandised as being? lol
@@richardmarsden5610 Western tanks are too heavy for Ukrainian ground and Challenger is the heaviest of them. Irrelevant in the case of Challenger 3 as it won't fight in Ukraine but it will be important for armies to develop strategies to deal with drones on the battlefield.
In these wars (ukr/i sra l) we are involved with at what stage are we in the start compared to ww1 and www2. Map out how we are progressing in comparison to other starts. How should we prepare
What do these guys smoke
thanks guys. have a good weekend
good useful important vital information.
your work is very important to getting the word out.
Bless Ukraine and Bless the AFU
My heart is breaking for the peaceful people of Ukraine.
May Ukraine have all defense systems to protect itself possible
May Ukraine retake all its land
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The North Atlantic Alliance bears direct responsibility for the Ukrainian crisis, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Wang Wenbin told a news briefing.
"NATO bears indisputable responsibility for this crisis. The alliance should give thought to its role, stop shifting the blame and effectively take practical action for the political settlement of the crisis," he said.
Wang added that China was not providing weapons to the conflicting parties and strictly controlled dual-use goods, including the export of drones.
He said that "more than 60% of the weapons components and dual-use items imported by Russia come from the United States and Western countries." He emphasized that Russia and China maintained normal and open trading and economic cooperation.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg earlier said that 90% of microelectronics imported by Russia in 2023 came from China and that China was allegedly providing Russia with satellite imagery.
Dicky believes the Chinese. Wot a larf
Does it help Ukraine if they gain crimea but Russia gets further to north and west or even Kyiv?
This scenario is the least plausible.
Ukraine will NEVER regain Crimea. That ship has sailed. Ukraine is collapsing.
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One thing that can be said about Ukrainians -- they are very resourceful. If the turtle shell tanks seems to be working for the Russians, Ukraine will adapt the same idea and use it to a better effect. The "dragons- teeth" defense that Russia started using got quite a lot of ridicule from a lot of people, but they seem to be working, and Ukraine is now using the same idea but they use it to better effect, plus, half of the allocated funds don't go into their personal Bank accounts like it does with Russian oligarchs. So don't let pride be your downfall, Ukraine, use whatever method is appropriate for the job in this very uncalled for war with Russia.
🇷🇺Russian flying shovel is deadly 😅
The withdrawal of the M1A1 Abrams from the front is good. Now the innovating Ukrainians can modify the Abrams MBT. They already know they need to develop ways to defend & attack drones . It's known drones are defining the new battlefield combat environment. Ukraine needs operational Abrams. They are compelled to find ways to fix the problem! I'd guess Ukrainian engineers would be contracted outside the $61 Billion program to find ways to protect Abrams tanks with the participation of the U.S. & NATO countries. Also, be sure to include Sweden.
Slava Ukraini.
"Every pilot's worst nightmare, the jamming of GPS" Oh please. Its a moderate pain in the arse but it is a long way away from a pilot's "worst nightmare".
Are these journalists or members of MI5 - 6. I guess they are all of the same these days.
The Sherman might be just as good.
in Short - russia is crap at everything, yet they seem to be winning 🙃
and US still needed Russia to help bring down their astronaut from space lol
They are great piece of equipment , like f16 is , and they are so valuable in this role so it cant be destroyed in battelground . Let me think if I can make some more BS arguments
I like the hawkish rhetoric of Macron. The other European politicians must take note of that.
I just hope it's not just words...